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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we have the rare dueling

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Speaker 1: I can fix some trade to talk about tonight. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal in my garage for the last time during

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Speaker 1: this preseason with my good friend Nick Shook. Before the show,

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Speaker 1: I just said, Nick, aren't you feeling a little sentiment

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Speaker 1: the last time we're going to do this on a

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Speaker 1: preseason Sunday?

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Speaker 2: And you said, now, let's get to waste one already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're speaking for most of the football populous,

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Speaker 1: and we're right there. Cuts have already started. As we

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Speaker 1: are taping this. We are less than forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: away from the cuts being due all around the league.

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Speaker 1: We are, you know what, eleven days away from the

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Speaker 1: kickoff game. It is all happening. Now. Preseason is over,

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Speaker 1: training camp practice is over, all the access is over,

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Speaker 1: and now we've got some funky trades that I alluded to.

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Speaker 1: So let's just start there. So the process here, Nick,

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Speaker 1: because you know, preseason week three, not many teams play

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Speaker 1: a lot of starters, although some did. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through each game just to kind of organize it. But

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Speaker 1: we'll just give some takeaways from these teams, whether it

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Speaker 1: was related to that game, or more likely from the

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Speaker 1: preseason or the last week as a whole. We will

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Speaker 1: hit all thirty two teams and we'll go in reverse

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Speaker 1: order roughly of when they finished, except for Eagles Jets.

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna start there because we had a Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz related quarterback trade in the year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Sam Howell is going to the Eagles nick so that

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, who had Sam Howell for those scoring at home,

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Speaker 1: can sign Carson Wentz to be their backup quarterback. Let's

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Speaker 1: start talking about it from the Eagles side of things.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of them bringing in Sam Howell

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Speaker 1: for which was ultimately like a late round pickswap and

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Speaker 1: like a sixth ultimately or a seventh that they give

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Speaker 1: up to get Sam Howe.

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Speaker 2: Well, for a team like the Eagles who don't need

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Speaker 2: to find out that much in preseason, one of the

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Speaker 2: things that they discovered, or at least were reminded of,

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Speaker 2: is that they love Tanner McKee as a backup. But

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Speaker 2: then Tanner McKee suffered a fractured thumb in the game

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Speaker 2: and suddenly they had Kyle McCord as their only remaining option.

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Speaker 2: This is right after they saw a bunch of Kyle

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Speaker 2: McCord in their game against the Jets and probably didn't

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Speaker 2: like what they saw very much, so that prompts them

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Speaker 2: to go make a move for Sam Howe, who started

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Speaker 2: the preseason and played really well for the Vikings. But

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Speaker 2: the Vikings are looking to move on because they love

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Speaker 2: Max Brozmer and they need to find a spot on

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Speaker 2: the roster for him. So it's a win win in theory,

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Speaker 2: except then they go sign Carson Wentz because they also

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Speaker 2: know that they need a veteran behind JJ McCarthy since

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Speaker 2: they lose the veteran presence in how So the carousel turns,

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Speaker 2: you get to put the pieces together. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of different things involved, but that's the way I see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if win win, no disrespect to where

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is at at this point of his career

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Speaker 1: or Sam Howell, who now three teams have given up

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Speaker 1: on in the last three years, would be the way

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Speaker 1: I'd exactly describe it. How About just like, well, better

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Speaker 1: little better. That's fine, That's all you can ask for.

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Speaker 2: Just go with a push, Yeah, push is fine.

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Speaker 1: So Sam Howell has played some of his very best

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Speaker 1: football against the Eagles. I was wondering, like, did I

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Speaker 1: remember this right? He had some great games for Washington

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Speaker 1: against him, and I looked in it. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: they've seen him play well and it sounds like Tanner McKee,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, like no real option there. Carson Wentz is

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Speaker 1: his interesting. You know, we do the show I can

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Speaker 1: fix him, and to me, he is the ultimate I

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Speaker 1: can fix him. Jordan rodrigeg trademark there, but Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: was not able to fix him last year with the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: glad you mentioned Max Brosmer. I don't think they will

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Speaker 1: like Sam Howell will be the backup for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you mentioned Kyle mccordy their six round pick.

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Speaker 1: This was a pointless game. So I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I mean a game specifically. Like I said, I don't

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Speaker 2: think the Eagles liked what they saw from Kyle accord

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Speaker 2: very much. I was I saw John Metchi out there,

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, wait, where's John Metchi? He had

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Speaker 2: one catch for fourteen yards. Yeah, very much a pointless game.

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Speaker 2: Adrian Martinez ends up getting cut by the Jets. Played

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Speaker 2: the second half of this game for New York. It

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Speaker 2: away from a preseason that. Look, you're the defending champ.

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Speaker 2: You don't really need to discover all that much. The

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Speaker 2: only thing, the only area of concern is the turnover

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Speaker 2: they'll be fine. So and the Jets, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: we didn't get to see justin fields in this game.

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Speaker 2: I flipped it on and I was like, there's no fields. Well, now,

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Speaker 2: what am I going to learn from this game?

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Speaker 1: Nothing? Really, other than Keey Ringo I think has fallen

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Speaker 1: down the depth chart enough that he was playing and

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Speaker 1: a Dori Jackson was not. It looks like it's a

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Speaker 1: Dori Jackson to be the starter if I was thinking

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Speaker 1: like larger picture Eagles. You know, they tried Cooper Dezine

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Speaker 1: such a big win that Jahad Campbell had such a great,

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Speaker 1: make this team. Let's go to the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers. Nick and I moved this one up

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Speaker 1: just like slightly in the order because another trade. Brian Robinson,

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Speaker 1: Nick Kyle Shannon immediately announced we needed a better backup quarterback,

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Speaker 1: with whoever's there, like Isaac Grendo, it will be Brian

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Speaker 1: Robinson's job. They gave it a sixth round pick for

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Speaker 1: the Commander's leading rusher for a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this all started with Washington kind of treating this

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Speaker 2: strangely and that they didn't you know, have Brian Robinson

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Speaker 2: week five. You know, has a productive, you know, first

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Speaker 2: a bigger, powerful back and that's what the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers lacked behind. Christian McCaffrey. Grenda is a home run

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Speaker 2: hitter type. He's not a guy that you're necessarily gonna

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Speaker 2: you don't want to bang up McCaffrey a bunch, considering

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Speaker 2: because if you think, well, all right, Robinson not super

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Speaker 2: fix him. And if he admitted that he needed a

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Speaker 2: better back behind McCaffrey, why not capitalized with a very

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've never been in love with Brian Robinson's running

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Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan seems to love him, that he's just

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Speaker 1: a simple stretch head runner. He's putting him number two. Grendo,

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Speaker 1: don't know what the contract situation is so right now,

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Speaker 1: in terms of healthy wide receivers, it is very possible.

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Speaker 1: The wide receiver two behind Ricky pearsall Is sky Moore

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Speaker 1: I think they'll get Jennings signed ultimately, but it's crazy

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Speaker 1: right now, like they could be running like a three

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Speaker 1: ride receiver set week one if nothing changed with sky

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Speaker 2: I'm also curious, like how long did Jennings feel like

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Speaker 1: In, right, They really do need him. Yeah, it's tricky.

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Speaker 1: It's been reported he wants more than twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, he would fit in pretty well in

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Speaker 1: the fifteen million dollar rate. Yes, give him a little

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Speaker 1: bump for this year, just make him happy. The forty

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Speaker 2: luckily never had to really see the field for them.

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Speaker 2: You're right, it was a bad day to bea Sanders.

429
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Speaker 2: By the way, Saturday was considering we have got to it.

430
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Speaker 2: We haven't got to it. Oh, cool backflip by Tess Johnson,

431
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 2: by the way, after he scored. That was awesome.

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Speaker 1: That was That was awesome. Jason Light, by the way,

433
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Speaker 1: had some comments about Hassan Reddick last week. Jason Light's

434
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Speaker 1: their general manager. That just gave me some optimism about

435
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Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick. I think they're really happy with what they've

436
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Speaker 1: seen out of him as a leader and on the field,

437
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Speaker 1: and him talking about already maybe this can turn into

438
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Speaker 1: a long term partnership Reddick in the Bucks and I

439
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: was like, Ooh, if they get the good Hassan Reddick,

440
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Speaker 1: that would be really good for them. Reminds me a

441
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Speaker 1: little bit of when they got Jason Pierre Paul when

442
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: most of the NFL probably thought he was really on

443
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Speaker 1: the downturn, and they got some great years out of

444
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Speaker 1: him and it really helped. They had their rookies Jacob

445
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Speaker 1: Parrish at cornerback and Amika Abuka have two of the

446
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Speaker 1: best preseasons of any rookie tandem too, so that's great

447
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Speaker 1: for the Bucks. Let's talk Dolphins Jags. Hey, they showed

448
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Speaker 1: up the Miami Dolphins. I give anyone credit. They gave

449
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Speaker 1: me something to watch. The Miami Dolphins played their starters.

450
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Speaker 1: It was kind of sad because the offense still struggled

451
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Speaker 1: against the Jaguars backups. You hate when that happened. The

452
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Speaker 1: defense not so much. The defense was amazing against John

453
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Speaker 1: Woolford and the third string Jaguars offense, which you would expect.

454
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Speaker 1: But I got excited show because on the I think

455
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Speaker 1: it was the first play of the game, they had

456
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Speaker 1: Zach Seeler, Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips, and Chop Robinson all

457
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Speaker 1: in the field together at the same time. They actually

458
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Speaker 1: had Benito Jones two as like a run stuffer, which

459
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Speaker 1: is like whoa, that is an insane amount of pass

460
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Speaker 1: rush on the field at the same time, It's like, wait,

461
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Speaker 1: how did you even do that? And so I like

462
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Speaker 1: a rew and they got Jalen Phillips actually lining up

463
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Speaker 1: over the slot receiver, which is insane, like a two

464
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pounds, six foot four guy or whatever

465
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Speaker 1: he is lining up over the slot receiver. But he

466
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Speaker 1: just rushed. They all just rushed and they got a sack.

467
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Speaker 1: And those guys dominated the Jaguars backups as you would expect.

468
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Speaker 1: But it, you know, it's been so negative about the

469
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Speaker 1: Dolphins all camp. I gotta say they have a chance,

470
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Speaker 1: if everything broke right, to be an elite defensive front,

471
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Speaker 1: like one of the best in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we spent a good amount of time

473
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Speaker 2: worrying about their secondary earlier in this preseason and Stefy

474
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Speaker 2: so yeah, rightfully, so, but you're right. I mean, you

475
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Speaker 2: want to put Jalen Phillips in the widest nine in

476
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Speaker 2: the history of football to get after the quarterback by

477
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Speaker 2: all means, Like they've invested so much in that area

478
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Speaker 2: over the last four years. It started with Bradley Chubb

479
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Speaker 2: and continue with Phillips, and continued with Robinson, who they

480
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Speaker 2: drafted after Phillips suffered a season ending injury. And now

481
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Speaker 2: they've got all those guys available. That might be the

482
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Speaker 2: only way that they're you know, competitive on the defensive

483
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Speaker 2: side of the ball because of our concerns in the

484
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Speaker 2: secondary and it might be what might prove to be

485
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Speaker 2: a strength, like you said, and then suddenly we're like,

486
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, we're not talking about Mike McDaniels offense.

487
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Speaker 2: We're talking about this incredible pass rush that comes from Miami.

488
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Speaker 2: It's like Saxonville two point zero, except it's in a

489
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Speaker 2: different part of Florida.

490
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Speaker 1: And Anthony Weaver, who had on an NFL daily last year,

491
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Speaker 1: who was great year two of that Ravens scheme. I

492
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Speaker 1: think he's a good coach. Do they have some creativity?

493
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Speaker 1: They have this Day three rookie defensive tackle named Jordan Phillips,

494
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Speaker 1: not to be confused with the veteran Jordan Phillips, who,

495
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Speaker 1: by the way, is signing with the Bills and has

496
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Speaker 1: been in the NFL a long time. But Jordan Phillips

497
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Speaker 1: more of like a plugger up front. And the guys

498
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Speaker 1: at the Reid Optional had a long segment about them,

499
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Speaker 1: so I want to give them credit for pointing him out.

500
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Speaker 1: And then I watched him in this game and he's

501
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Speaker 1: had a great preseason where he looks like a fine

502
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Speaker 1: and Kenneth Grant has looked good too at defensive tackle.

503
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Speaker 1: So just a lot of numbers there we'll see. We'll

504
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Speaker 1: see if it works on the flip side TWA. And

505
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Speaker 1: the offense looked pretty rough against the backups, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: they they didn't score for I think it was a

507
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Speaker 1: driver too. And then it was fourth and six like

508
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Speaker 1: on their side of the field, and McDaniel just let

509
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Speaker 1: them out there. I think it was their third drive

510
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Speaker 1: and he's like, we got to get something going, and

511
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Speaker 1: to ta credit, he hits you know, a fourth and

512
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Speaker 1: six when the other team, the Jaguars, send a blitz

513
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Speaker 1: and then they end up having a good rest of

514
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Speaker 1: the drive and get a touchdown. At least leave on

515
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Speaker 1: a positive note. But I was checking out the joint

516
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Speaker 1: practice reports shook you know how I like to score

517
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Speaker 1: joint practice wins and losses. Oh yeah, I think the Dolphins.

518
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Speaker 1: First of all, they're the only team I think they

519
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Speaker 1: had three joint practices, but they're definitely the only team

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Speaker 1: that went zero to three in joint practices. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like the Jaguars won their joint practice, so that's bad.

522
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Speaker 1: I think that's why Tua might have been out there

523
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Speaker 1: like it just hasn't looked good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the question, did it did they at

525
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Speaker 2: least like improve from joint practice session like week to week,

526
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Speaker 2: because the first one was really bad, yeah, and then

527
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Speaker 2: the second one, like it was three interceptions for two

528
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Speaker 2: I can't I think it was against the Bears. And

529
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Speaker 2: then the next one was like, well, he didn't throw

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Speaker 2: any interceptions this time, So we're making some progress. And

531
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Speaker 2: like they you had two on record saying like, oh,

532
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't get I don't grade myself. I

533
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Speaker 2: don't need to do that. That's for you guys to do.

534
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Speaker 2: But I think we're, you know, steadily improving. So maybe

535
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Speaker 2: it's just a lower starting point for this team this

536
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Speaker 2: year in what's gonna be a high pressure season. But

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Speaker 2: if their defense plays well, which by the way, we

538
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Speaker 2: didn't even mention Matthew Judin's also in that pass rushing group.

539
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Speaker 2: They added him last week. So if they become a

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Speaker 2: defensive team, then maybe we don't need to lily in

541
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Speaker 2: this offense as much and we don't have to worry

542
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Speaker 2: about it as much. But I caution against just blindly

543
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Speaker 2: believing that going into the season.

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Speaker 1: For context, Devon ah Chan is out hurt. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if they're get ready for Week one. Tyreek Hill hasn't

546
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Speaker 1: been practicing for a couple of weeks now. So yeah,

547
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins offense is gonna stink if Tyreek Kill and

548
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Speaker 1: Devon h Chan aren't on the field. Like we know

549
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Speaker 1: that their rookie running back Ali Gordon, I thought looked

550
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Speaker 1: better this week. I know he's looked pretty good in general,

551
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Speaker 1: but he looked really good again against second and third

552
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Speaker 1: stringers with bouncing off of guys Jalen Wright. Their backup

553
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Speaker 1: running back is hurt, so Ali Gordon might be getting

554
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Speaker 1: some snaps early in this season for the Jags. Yeah,

555
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Speaker 1: they didn't play their starters, so there wasn't much there.

556
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Speaker 1: Our friend John Shipley reports that they are looking to

557
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Speaker 1: possibly deal Tank Bigsby or Travis Etn probably one or

558
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Speaker 1: the other. The offensive line in the joint practice reportedly

559
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: did not play really that well, but the defense played well,

560
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Speaker 1: as we kind of mentioned against Miami. And Travis Hunter

561
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Speaker 1: has been out of team drills now for like a

562
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Speaker 1: week and a half. I'm still buying him in fantasy.

563
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Speaker 1: I don't care that he's going as wide receiver thirty five.

564
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Speaker 1: I don't, man, I think people are sleeping on a

565
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Speaker 1: major talent here. I just don't see the gap between

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Speaker 1: him and Brian Thomas Junior being that great once we

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Speaker 1: get to like November December.

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Speaker 2: Well, especially because there was that period earlier in the

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Speaker 2: preseason when Brian Thomas Unior was struggling with drops. So

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not something that I would say is

571
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Speaker 2: a serious concern. But if you're weighing the two, yeah,

572
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Speaker 2: maybe you do invest in Travis Hunter and Fancy and

573
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Speaker 2: especially if you're in an IDP league, because I don't

574
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Speaker 2: know if you can, but I would imagine you might

575
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Speaker 2: be able to use them on both sides. Who knows,

576
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I think so. And the Jaguars, by the way, have

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Speaker 1: our Armstead back in the mix, and he reportedly had

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Speaker 1: a great day in that joint practice, so he is

580
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Speaker 1: fully healthy and they could be a good front with

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Speaker 1: Josh Heinz Allen and Trevon Walker now has improved if

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Speaker 1: Armstead really gives them something. All right, let's give the

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Speaker 1: people something to think about while we take a break

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Speaker 1: and we come back and we are cranking through every

585
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Speaker 1: single team and their final preseason takeaways. Back in a minute.

586
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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, Packers and Seahawks played a game

587
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: in which Jalen Milroe played a lot did not look good,

588
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: but I'm more interested and shook in a real deal

589
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Speaker 1: fight at joint practice. It took to the very last

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Speaker 1: day of training camp for two teams to really get

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Speaker 1: after it. Multiple players say that was the worst fight

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Speaker 1: they've ever seen that they've been involved in at a

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Speaker 1: trading camp. Zach Tom the Packers tackle got kicked out,

594
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Speaker 1: but apparently a whole lot of people could have gotten

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Speaker 1: kicked out. I am curious was anyone dumb enough to

596
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Speaker 1: ever get in a fight with Shooky at a football practice.

597
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Speaker 2: I was a late bloomer, so I wasn't as large

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Speaker 2: in stature maybe as I am now, so I wasn't

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Speaker 2: as intimidating. But yes, at least two fights I got

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Speaker 2: into back in the day. One I clearly won. The

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Speaker 2: other one was kind of a draw, and then I

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Speaker 2: had to run a mile with my pads and helmet

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Speaker 2: on his punishment, so kind of wasn't worth it.

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Speaker 1: How like, can you just jog it? Or are you

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Speaker 1: supposed to go kind of fast?

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Speaker 2: Now you're jogging it? But in fact, I believe I

607
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Speaker 2: had to run that one with a fifty pound blocking

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Speaker 2: like dummy over my back, so you had to run

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Speaker 2: it with your arms like this over your pads, would.

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Speaker 1: Take the helmets off and swing when you're fighting, But

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Speaker 1: or was it more like.

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Speaker 2: Any I'm not Miles Garrett, come on, no, actually I

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Speaker 2: think it was a I grabbed a face mask and

614
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: tried to pull somebody down by It was rough.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we don't really know who won this joint practice.

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Speaker 1: So there's not much from the game. Like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Millroe, who's going to be the third string quarterback

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Speaker 1: who I'm excited to see what he can do as

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Speaker 1: a pro, was not ready to really play quarterback for

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Speaker 1: an entire game with a bunch of third and fourth stringers.

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Speaker 1: Fumbled three times, he struggled with China Nuosu for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Seems like he's getting close. Maybe he'll be ready for

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Speaker 1: Week one. I saw a note from the Athletic that

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Speaker 1: Nick Am and Worri their safety has been playing a

625
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Speaker 1: little more traditional safety over the last couple of weeks

626
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Speaker 1: in practice, a little less like in the box playing linebacker.

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Speaker 1: That's just something to keep an eye on for Week one.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm not sure if Marcus Veldez Scantling is

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Speaker 1: going to make this team for sure, after the emergence

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Speaker 1: of Tory Horton, for instance, the rookie wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because first it was very

632
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Speaker 2: strange to watch this game and see mvs in the

633
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Speaker 2: Seahawks uniform at Flambeau Field wearing number one. It was

634
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Speaker 2: just but he was also the recipient of Jalen Millroe's

635
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Speaker 2: best throw of the day, which there weren't many to

636
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Speaker 2: choose from, so I was like, oh, that's I guess

637
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Speaker 2: we are in twenty twenty five after all. From Milroe's performance,

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Speaker 2: it just felt a lot like what you saw at Alabama,

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Speaker 2: except the Packers just kind of he was kind of

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Speaker 2: unfair third down. They were just sending blitzes after him

641
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Speaker 2: and that line, the backups on the line, which we

642
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: alread knew the Seattle starting line was not very good

643
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: last year. Plus Milroe being a youngster, they could not

644
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: handle it. The pocket collapse of him multiple times. Even

645
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: when he got they designed runs from the Packers shut

646
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: it down. It almost felt like they prepared for a

647
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe game a little bit like it was the

648
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: regular season. So not to be down on him necessarily,

649
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: but he is what he is, which is a guy

650
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: who's going to have to take time to develop as

651
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: a passer and somebody that you're gonna use as a runner,

652
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: you know, this season during the regular season games.

653
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not really thinking he would pass Drew Locke,

654
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: although maybe I guess in my highest of hopes, you

655
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: thought that would be possible. It didn't happen. Michael San

656
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Dugard listened to his podcast and he talked to out

657
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: how you know, their offense against the Packers in that

658
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: joint practice, it was really just all Jackson Smith and Jigba,

659
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: who at this point when he's in the slot, might

660
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: be the best slot receiver in all of football. Just

661
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: dominating getting open all the time. And that's it. No

662
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: one else is getting open, which I hear and I

663
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: think of as a Cooper Cup, you know comment, because

664
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have other guys that can

665
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: really separate the Packers that their story this month is

666
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: just injuries. When is Jaden Reid going to be back.

667
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: We don't know if he'll be back for week one.

668
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: When is Nate Hobbs, their cornerback, going to be back,

669
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: don't know. Dantavian Wicks, Savian Williams, the rookie receiver, Zaviy

670
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: McKinney's been out of practice. Marshaun Lloyd there their backup

671
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: running back. He's going to injured reserve. I've heard some

672
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs trade buzz.

673
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: But there's there's no way that happens. Why not, because

674
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: they have two healthy receivers that are like deserving of

675
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: being on the field. In fact, matt le Fluur sat

676
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: down with k Adams of Up and Adams and she

677
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: asked him about that, like there's rumors that he may

678
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: be out of town, and he was so dismissive of it.

679
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: He's like, no, no, that's not happening. He works hard

680
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: as a great teammates, so on and so forth. There's

681
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: no way they get rid of it. They're not gonna

682
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: have anybody left. Matthew Golden made a nice catching this game,

683
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: but like he's a rookie. You need Romeo Dobs, you

684
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: need him desperately to start the season.

685
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: You know what my guess is, with a situation like that,

686
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: then then someone's someone's being a stinky Davis out there

687
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: and sprinkling it might be real may A Dobbs' representation

688
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: and just sprinkling that out there, you know, cause he

689
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: knows Dobbs that the numbers might not be there for

690
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: him this year. He's a free agent, Like, hey, any

691
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: team want to give a good offer to Green Bay

692
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: and just make him think about it? Like cause it

693
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like the Packers are interested and it doesn't

694
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: make sense. I agree. I do love that bow Melton

695
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: is making this team as a two way player. I

696
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: think that's an underplayed story. A former wide receiver that's

697
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: gonna make it as a cornerback, but you could use

698
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: him in a pinch at wide receiver too. Isaiah Simmons

699
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: had the typical Isaiah Simmons camp where he got a

700
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: lot of pop early. I don't know if he's actually

701
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: even gonna make this team. And then I noticed they're

702
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: set up in this game, had Rashid Walker at left

703
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: tackle and then their first round pick from a year ago,

704
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Morgan next to him at left guard. I think

705
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: it's because of a lot of injuries. Again, more injuries

706
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: like on their offensive lines. It's just a team. These

707
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: aren't long term injuries. But we'll just see what they

708
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: look like Week one. Let's go to the Broncos in

709
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: the Saints Bravo to the Broncos in the Saints. Maybe

710
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: not the best preseason game of the week. There was

711
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: really only two two good preseason games for true connoisseurs.

712
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Shook Bears Chiefs was the other one. I mean, we

713
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: got Mahomes in kleeb for like almost an entire half.

714
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looked like a real game, high octane.

715
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: But our friends at the Saints Block Party podcast pointed

716
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: out and I agreed, this Bronco Saints game had a

717
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: little sum to nextra It almost felt like the regular

718
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: season for a while. Sean Payton like he it was

719
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: like a revenge game in the preseason. Only Sean Payton

720
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: could do that. We had starters on both sides. They

721
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: were playing hard and I don't have major takeaways from

722
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: the game other than the Saints defense made it really

723
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: hard on Bo Knicks and the Broncos offense, and for

724
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: the most part, the Broncos offense this preseason wasn't great.

725
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: It took them until their sixth drive of the preseason.

726
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: It was the third one in this game to get

727
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Finally, it's not a huge sample size and

728
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: they weren't terrible, but it like looked like a football

729
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: game where both teams were trying and settling for field goals.

730
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty, but you could tell there was just

731
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: like a little something extra and there were a lot

732
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: of starters, mostly starters on both sides of the ball.

733
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: This is also two teams that just agreed to a

734
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: trade earlier in the week with Devon Vealle and you know,

735
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: sending a big receiver to a Saints receiving corps that

736
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: lacked a guy over six foot one. So interesting to

737
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: see how he fits in. But yeah, I agree. Like

738
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm watching this game and it's the second quarter. I'm like,

739
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks is still in and I'm sitting there thinking,

740
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: all right, let me get Jared Stedham. Nope, we go

741
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: straight to Sam Ellinger after that. But you're right, it

742
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: was a back and forth affair. It was. There was

743
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: a lot of activity. It was there was more juice

744
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: to it than most of the preseason games, especially in

745
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: Week three, and Bo Knicks and the offense finally get

746
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: down the field and put a touchdown on the board

747
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: in early in the second quarter, which I was like, Okay,

748
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: finally he did something. Because you're right, unless it was

749
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: Stidham on the field, this offense didn't look very good

750
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: with the starters for most of the preseason. I'm not

751
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 2: going to sound the alarm bells, but the main takeaway

752
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: I had from this matchup alone, because again we have

753
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: the Saints quarterback battle, right, Tyler Schuck, Spencer Ratler, the

754
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: agenda versus the rookie. I couldn't help but watch the

755
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Broncos offense operate and even when they struggled, and then

756
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: watched the Saints with Spencer Ratler and think, Kellen Moore,

757
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: if you just took Sean Payton's approach with bow Nicks

758
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: last year applied it to Spencer Ratler, it would increase

759
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: your possibility of finding success with him at quarterback because

760
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: once Shuck comes in, then you look at him and

761
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, that's a guy who is probably more

762
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: fitting for what Kellen Moore wants to do offensively than

763
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: what they're forcing Spencer Rattler do. So why not get

764
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: a little flexible. I don't know if he's going to,

765
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: but I just couldn't help but see the Broncos the

766
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: example of it on the field, and then the Saints

767
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: offense come on the field and just not do what

768
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: I think they should do.

769
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: Great point I guess the response would be, there's only

770
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: one Sean Payton, you know, and maybe Kevin Moore will

771
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: will prove to be a really great head coach, but

772
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: he's not Sean Payton. Certainly we haven't proved it yet.

773
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: And then Spencer Rattler and Shuck are not bo Nicks

774
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: until proven otherwise either. And yeah, the kind of bigger

775
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: picture is that no Saints quarterback won the quarterback battle.

776
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: No whoever got to play against the backups, and the

777
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: third stringers look better each time, so Shuck probably had

778
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: a better game. He certainly ended it well with a

779
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: really nice drive. But they both were just eh like.

780
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: And they weren't terrible either, they were just eh like.

781
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: I just I didn't have a big takeaway other than

782
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: Ratler played exclusively with the ones and Shuck played exclusively

783
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: with the twos, and that was the same as was

784
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: the case at practice, So they were certainly setting it

785
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: up for Rattler to win the job. Crazier things have

786
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: happened than flipping it. But if you were gonna play

787
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Shuck it in week one, it was stupid to waste

788
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: this entire week with him with the backup cruise. So

789
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: I gotta imagine it's Spencer Rattler. We'll find out in

790
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: the next day or two. I have major questions about

791
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: the Saints offensive line. I do like what I saw.

792
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Kendre Miller, a third round pick from a couple of

793
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: years ago, just has not been able to stay healthy

794
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: and has looked good. I think he could be out there,

795
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, as a really good backup to Alvin Camara.

796
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: I did want to mention Bo Nicks Cortland Sutton, who

797
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: I think hooked up for four catches for eighty three

798
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: yards and there was a great rollout. Nicks did have

799
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: some good highlights throughout the preseason, and he's really good

800
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: at throwing to his left. It reminds me a little

801
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins that way, except Nix's is more athletic.

802
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: Sutton was cooking kool Aid mckinnistry, so there was a

803
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: lot of pop shook about kool Aid mckinistry being like

804
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: a true cornerback one and everything, but man Sutton kind

805
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: of owned him in this game a handful of times,

806
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: and kool Aid it couldn't take him down on a

807
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: long play either. So just just a little note, when

808
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: if we're gonna see some starters, I'll reward you with

809
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: a little more conversation on NFL Daily. I feel like

810
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: that's only fair.

811
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 2: I agree the idea of kool aid is a true

812
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: cornerback one is very aspirational. It's not really rooted in reality,

813
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: at least not right now. He did make a nice

814
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: play on a ball to the end zone. He played

815
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: good defense and that one broke it up. But yeah,

816
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: thinking that he's just going to be your new cornerback

817
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: one if you got rid of Marshall ladamer on it

818
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: last year, that's just it's overly aspirational.

819
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: Well, he is their quarterback one because they don't have any,

820
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: but not a legit cornerback one, right. Alante Taylor is

821
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: a good player, but he's their slot corner. He hasn't

822
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: been healthy. Isaiah Foski, their second round pick from a

823
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: few years ago. I think that was his last time

824
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: as a member of the Saint I think he's going

825
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: to get cut and yeah, it's going to be Troy

826
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: Franklin and Pat Bryant season on the Broncos side. I

827
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: think they're a team that's one of the deepest in

828
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, and teams will be looking to see who

829
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: gets cut there. Even their running back like Odric Estime

830
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: looked okay in this game, like he could make a

831
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: team maybe somewhere. But we'll see what happens with the

832
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Broncos cutdown day picks. All right, let's go to the

833
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: Texans and the lines joint practices and you're remember the

834
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Lions Dolphins were the most uneven you know, joint practice.

835
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: Every report I could find with this one, no one

836
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: wanted to have a take. Everyone said perfectly even just

837
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: good work, good work by two good football teams all

838
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: the way around. The defense has won a little bit,

839
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: the offense has won a little bit. And I'll say

840
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: that's a win for the Texans. If you're going out

841
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: there in a joint practice with the Lions and it's

842
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: looking like your two teams are pretty even, then it's like, Okay,

843
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: that's good Houston, because the offense apparently had a pretty

844
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: solid day for Houston before all the starters sat in

845
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: the actual game.

846
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Lions a team that have built a reputation

847
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: for how they practice over the last year's leading the

848
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell era so much that Ben Johnson's tried to

849
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: instill that in his Bears and you know, overseeing some

850
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: of the most intense practices in the history of that

851
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: beats you know experience covering the team. So yeah, if

852
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: you come away with like it was a draw, it

853
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: was a push, that's great for you because this is

854
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: a team that you know is expected to contend for

855
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: the NFC and if you really want to be a

856
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: true AFC contender, then you need to stack up against

857
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: the best. But it's also funny because I think they're

858
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: similarly constructed in some ways, Like this is one of

859
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: the better defenses in the NFL in Houston, Like, we

860
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: love this defense. The show loves this defense, and we

861
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: expect them to play with grit, which happens to be

862
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: the phrase that Dan Campbell wears on his hat. So

863
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: we like that. We like that idea. It's the matter

864
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: of the big question has always been with the Texan

865
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: since last year. Can the offensive line hold up? Can

866
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: they move the football? The line's gotten better throughout the preseason,

867
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: at least according to those who were there. And if

868
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: you're again in a draw against the Lions defense, then

869
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: that's very encouraging. No matter whether you play Graham Mertz

870
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: and Keaton Slovies in a preseason game.

871
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Graham Mertz who was he a sixth round pick. Everyone

872
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: hated that pick. He was awesome in this game. Texans role,

873
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: they're third stringers over the Lions third stringers twenty six

874
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: to seven and not really taking much.

875
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: I just I got really tired of watching Graham mertzs

876
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 2: and Keyden Slovis in the preseason this year.

877
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: I can't believe you did it. I can't pretend that

878
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: I did. Who knows how long Joe Mixon is out

879
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: at this point. One of the stories with Houston, Nick

880
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: Chubb really does look like he's going to be the

881
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Week one starter. So it's interesting. It'll be rugged, it

882
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: will not be explosive. We'll see it.

883
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: Is rugged, is super accurate. It's just to be Chubb

884
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: up the middle, Chubb up the middle.

885
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce will be in the mix too, who's kind

886
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: of a younger version of a similar style. So that's

887
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: a big question hanging over the Texans. And then one

888
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: thing I don't know if I've mentioned on this show

889
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: since about March or April, which is that Jimmy Ward,

890
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: who was a quality starter for the Texans, has not

891
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: been on the field for them. He is facing domestic

892
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: assault allegations. He's thirty five years old. It came up

893
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: again this last week because of a civil suit that's

894
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: going against him that alleges the assault and that he

895
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: was on drugs at the time. But it's just a

896
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: reminder a he's not there. I don't expect him to

897
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: be there, even though they haven't said anything about it,

898
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: and that you know, he plays the same position as

899
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who's also hurt and going to be

900
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: out for a while. So that's just something to watch.

901
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: The Texans safety spot on the Lion's side, man Isaac Taslaw.

902
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: Every week he shows up. I didn't plan this out

903
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: shook preseason MVP wise, but let's think about it. Last week,

904
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if you actually listened to me when

905
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm honking. This is a lot of honking. I feel

906
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: bad for you. What like, why would you imagine that?

907
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: Imagine living with me?

908
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: How can we do a show if I'll listen to you.

909
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: Well, you could get away with it. Do you remember

910
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: the two candidates I said, this is a tough one

911
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 1: for the preseason MVP award. Law was not one of them.

912
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: It was it was Stidham, and I see, I was

913
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: on board with Stidham, and I wasn't as on board

914
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: with the other one, which is why I don't remember

915
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: the other one.

916
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: It was another quarterback with a game winning drive last week.

917
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh it was Stetsan Bennett, and I wasn't on board

918
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: with it.

919
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: That's right. Oh he was great. He gave me, give

920
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: me a lot of joy. But when we're handing out

921
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: this award, you gotta be you gotta compete. You got

922
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: to not be afraid to compete. You got to tell

923
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: your coach if your steps and Bennett do not sit

924
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: me for preseason week three for Dresser win, who you're

925
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna cut the next day? I need to play and

926
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: get that award. He didn't play Jared Stidham. You mentioned

927
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: it earlier. He didn't play either for Sam Ellinger. So

928
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: I know. Isaac Taslaw probably only had like eight catches

929
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: all of preseason, but they he had six of the

930
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: best eight catches all of preseason. And the fact they

931
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: played four weeks, it feels like they've been in training

932
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: camp for like months. Isaac Taslaw is my preseason MVP.

933
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: He did it again with another great touchdown catch I

934
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: think didn't.

935
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: He do that with this week or was that another

936
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: He hadn't touched down catch this week, and he had

937
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: a highlight touchdown catch last week as well. He's one

938
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: of the favorites of NFL Daily as a rookie, and

939
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't care what kind of pushback we get from

940
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: anybody in the comments who's like he's not going to

941
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: be in the rotation to start the season. They're gonna

942
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: find a way to put him on the field because

943
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: he's demonstrated the talents.

944
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: Got to get Tim Patrick on can't get oh god,

945
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: oh you gotta get I mean, look, all due respect

946
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: for Tim Patrick and what he's fought through in his

947
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: weird to still be in the NFL, But my god,

948
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: Isaac Islaw, he's a rookie, he's got everything's ahead of him.

949
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: Get him on the field. Let him work with Jared Goff.

950
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: He did with Kyle Allen.

951
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: For God's sake, they will. Kyle Allen looked pretty good.

952
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: Clearly the QB two wouldn't be surprised if they flat

953
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: out just cut Henon Hooker because Dan Campbell talked about, look,

954
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: they need to have as much depth as they can

955
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: and just hasn't worked out for Hooker in these games.

956
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: They had a couple injuries early remember in camp, like

957
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: on Wuzurike is not gonna play this season, that defensive line,

958
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: Josh Pascal's gonna be out a while, Enis Rakestrot, these

959
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: depth guys, but they basically survived since so I was

960
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: a little worried that was like a bad start to

961
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: the Lions season. I do keep an eye on Graham Glasgow.

962
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: Maybe it's nothing, maybe it's something he got hurt their

963
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: starting center at practice this week. But it's really hard

964
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: to know how serious these injuries are at this time

965
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: of year. So just something I'm watching heady into Week one.

966
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's get to your Browns finally, I mean talk about disrespect.

967
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: They bring in Tyler Huntley for the final two minute drive,

968
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it was disrespectful to it just

969
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: was weird that they played Tyler hunt like, why bother?

970
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have a monster take, but just why bother?

971
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna bring in Tyler Huntley and he's

972
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna drive you down the field for the game winning

973
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: field goal, can you can you not cut him the

974
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: next day? You knew you were going to cut him

975
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: the next day, so why why that's stupid. The whole

976
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: thing was stupid.

977
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: I hate to even look at the tinfoil hat that's

978
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: getting dust in the corner of this room, but I

979
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: am gonna reach forward at this point because I was

980
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: at the game. And when I tell you that for

981
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: a preseason game, a lot of people hung around to

982
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: watch Sador Sanders play. There were more people in that

983
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: stadium in the third fourth quarter of a preseason game

984
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: than I've seen in two decades of being at that stadium,

985
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: and I was like, Wow, they're really excited to watch him.

986
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: At one point, after his first bad drive, he ran

987
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: down to the dog Pound to get those fans riled

988
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: up before you went out there again. And I'm like, Oh,

989
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: that's not going to age well if it's anything like

990
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: the first drive. And the drive was even worse. So

991
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: my tinfoil had Conspiracy of the Week is Kevin Stefanski

992
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: got so frustrated with how bad the offense looked with

993
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: Shador at quarterback that he put Tyler Huntley in there

994
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: and said, I know he's gonna get the ball out

995
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: on time and not hang on to it forever and

996
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 2: he's going to get as possibly an in range for

997
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: a field goal to win this game, even though it

998
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: doesn't matter proving a point by doing that. I think

999
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: it was that and nothing more.

1000
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: I agree. I also think the outrage is it's all stupid.

1001
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: Is the whole thing is stupid. We're talking about two

1002
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: mid round rookies trying to battle to be a backup

1003
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Should there is a fifth round pick, and he had

1004
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: as bad a game as you could possibly have, and

1005
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: there are contextual reasons for it, and it's not the

1006
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: end of the world. Joe Flacco said after the game.

1007
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: You know, I just told them, like everyone's had those

1008
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: sort of games, and it's true, but it was that

1009
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: disastrous of a game. Should He was sacked five times,

1010
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: he threw six passes, they had negative twenty seven yards

1011
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: on his fourteen dropbacks. He was lost in this game.

1012
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, he was playing with a bunch of players

1013
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: that weren't on the roster by like the end of

1014
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: the weekend, so that all is to be taken into account.

1015
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: But I do think we can have takeaways not just

1016
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: from this game, but from the arc of the preseason

1017
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: and camp, which is that based on all reporting, like

1018
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: shoulder got more reps than any fourth string quarterback in

1019
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: history at practice, and he looked really good for the

1020
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: most part at practice. So he kept getting more and more,

1021
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: and Dylan Gabriel nick started slow, but sometime after he

1022
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: came back from the injury. I don't know if the

1023
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: practices were better. I think they were better, but the

1024
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: games were great. Like, he looked great in the games.

1025
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I would have given him a B plus for his

1026
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: first appearance in the preseason, and I'd give him an

1027
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: A minus for this one. Yeah, So yeah, like held,

1028
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: he just looked better, and so he's got to be

1029
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: the first one off the bench, I think, I assuming

1030
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: it's not Kenny Pickett.

1031
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, folks are like, oh, after the Carolina game,

1032
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: a Caablie Shoudoor is still fourth on the depth chart. Well,

1033
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: now that the pre season has concluded, you see why

1034
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: the death chart is what it is, which is that

1035
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel came out in two games and handled the

1036
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: job as pretty much as well as you can. He

1037
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: made the mistake on the pick six against Philadelphia, but

1038
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: I think in total he probably made three or four

1039
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: decisions where they like, You're just like, oh, that was

1040
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: a flat out bad decision that you need to learn from.

1041
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: There was another one where he was scrambling to his

1042
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: left in the red zone and he basically had a

1043
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: clear path to the end zone, if not close to

1044
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: the goal line, yes, and decided to fire it into traffic.

1045
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: And it looked a lot like the throw that he

1046
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: attempted against Philadelphia that was picked off by Andrew mccubaugh.

1047
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: So and that was that happened right in front of me,

1048
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh no, he did it again, Like

1049
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: just run. Those are the things you learned from. But

1050
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: as the way I describe him, had somebody behind me

1051
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: asking the questions like, how do you think this is

1052
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: going to shake out? And I was like, this is

1053
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: how it's going to go. They're going to go with

1054
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. If Kenny Pickett's on the team, he'll be

1055
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: the backup, and then it's gonna to be Gabriel, and

1056
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: then it's gonna be Shador And I think at some

1057
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: point you're gonna see all four if Picket's on the team,

1058
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: just because history says the Browns play a lot of

1059
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks over the course of the season, and I think

1060
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: that Gabriel in two games has done. He's been a

1061
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: game manager who has not taken any shots downfield, and

1062
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's capable of doing it, but

1063
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't think Kevin se Fancy wants that in a quarterback,

1064
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: especially a young quarterback. He wants somebody who's going to

1065
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: manage the offense and execute it as he wants it executed.

1066
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: I think Gabriel checked all those boxes. It's just that

1067
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: he's got a lower ceiling. Chador had that great game

1068
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: in Carolina, really bad game against the Rams, and didn't

1069
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: play in Philadelphia because he was dealing with an oblique injury.

1070
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: So the picture is a little bit more unclear. But again,

1071
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: this isn't somebody that you were gonna expect to be

1072
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: on the field in week one. So it's fine. He's

1073
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: a young guy who needs time to learn. Let it

1074
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: just be that and not some conspiracy that they're sabotaging him,

1075
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: because they're not.

1076
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is still on this roster. He's reportedly getting healthier. Look,

1077
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: if the Raiders want to send them some sort of

1078
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: pick for Kenny Pickett, they might just be like, Okay,

1079
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: that's fine, because Gabriel maybe showed enough be to think Okay,

1080
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: he could just be our backup, you know. I think

1081
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: he'd be ready at least to be a backup. I

1082
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: thought he got through his reads quickly, like there was

1083
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: an opposite hash throw to the out, which was great.

1084
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: People get on him for his arm strength, and I'm

1085
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: sure he doesn't have like the cannon down the field,

1086
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: but he has more than enough, oh yeah, to play

1087
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: at the NFL level like he and he was processing

1088
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: and going through his reads, like I said, pretty fast.

1089
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: So he was decisive. The height thing is going to

1090
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: be an issue. I saw one ball that he had.

1091
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: I think it was the Larvadane where he got blasted

1092
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 2: in the back by a defender where it got deflected

1093
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: at the defense at the line, and that's why it

1094
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: was off target and why his receiver got hit. And

1095
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: I think that's going to continue to be an issue.

1096
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: But he is mobile enough to roll him out if

1097
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: you have to, So yeah, I agree with you.

1098
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: One thing I clocked which was interesting. Zach Jackson has

1099
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: a podcast on the Browns, and he said, considering the

1100
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: amount of outrageously good throw Shad made throughout camp, he wondered,

1101
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: what else is going on for Shoudar to not get

1102
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: higher on the depth chart and more opportunities. Just kind

1103
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: of an interesting blind item when that comes from a

1104
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: Beat reporter of just don' I don't know. I don't

1105
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: know what he meant, but I found it interesting. I

1106
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: am gonna shout out a guy that Andrew Siciliano noted

1107
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter is making the team because Key.

1108
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna do this if you didn't.

1109
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: Do it, because that then I won't sound like a Homer.

1110
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: Product of the two lane Green Wave, Aiden Hutchinson, the

1111
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: defensive tackle who started the game playing full back, finishes

1112
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: with a sack and a half forced fumble, has made

1113
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: the team. And it's especially personal to me because, as

1114
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: we chronicled last year, around this time, college Football twenty

1115
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: five came out and I led the Green Wave do

1116
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: a national championship just to make Greg happy, and Aiden

1117
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: Huntington was a standout on that defense for me. So

1118
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: it's really happy to see real life Aiden Huntington succeeding

1119
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: and making a roster in the NFL.

1120
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: And that he's playing both ways, that he's playing full back.

1121
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: He had a couple of surreal pet card a couple

1122
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: of TFLs. I don't know, like he never says anything,

1123
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: and then he went to the podium and said this

1124
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: undrafted rookies making the team. I think all the reporters

1125
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: were like, what, he never says stuff like that, so

1126
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: they love him. That's a cool camp story. I don't

1127
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: have much to say on the Rams. Terrence Ferguson, their

1128
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: second round tight end, played in this game and looked

1129
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: quite good, just galloping and stride. Had one play down

1130
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: the field, but got open a couple times and will

1131
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: be interesting if they use him during the season. It

1132
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: was a good camp I think for Nate Landman at

1133
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: linebacker for the Rams. They do not play any of

1134
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: their guys in the preseason at all. The lack of

1135
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: surprises in general for the Rams, it means they had

1136
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: a good training camp. There wasn't a lot of news

1137
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: other than Stafford and we'll see, but maybe my Stafford

1138
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: panic was a little unnecessary. We'll see. He had a

1139
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: good week, a good first week back. We don't really know,

1140
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: but it sounded like he checked a lot of boxes

1141
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: to progress during the week.

1142
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: Look, no news, I think is good news considering we've

1143
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: chronicled this. I mean we were literally at the point

1144
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: last week where he took the field and pads and

1145
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: the Rams tweeted out and I wrote about it without

1146
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: knowing like what capacity he participated in or anything. That's

1147
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: just how slowly this has progressed. So you hope that

1148
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: you hear less and no news is good news for him,

1149
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: considering his age's injury history and everything else. I do

1150
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: want to go back to the game though, real quick.

1151
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: One guy that stood out to me from like field

1152
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: level viewing was safety for the Rams. His name is

1153
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: Tanner Ingle, and he played his tail off in that game.

1154
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: That man was laying the wood on defense special teams.

1155
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: Number thirty four was flying around the field and I

1156
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: just checked their cuts. So far he's still on the roster,

1157
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: so keep an eye on number thirty four.

1158
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: What So, I was watching the broadcast last time. I

1159
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: get to see the best trio in the game. JB. Long,

1160
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: Mina Chimes and Maurice Jones drew here here locally and yeah,

1161
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: Sean McVay comes on that broadcast and does you know

1162
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: half a quarter? He's so good good at it. I

1163
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: think he called them the human missile.

1164
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how he played.

1165
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVay just loved that guy that he showed up

1166
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: each and every week he was the postgame interview, So

1167
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: I am a sucker for stories like that. I think

1168
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: he made the Rams. Let's talk Colts Bengals. How about

1169
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: those Colts third stringers just wiping the floor with the

1170
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Bengals forty one to fourteen. It's crazy that they charged

1171
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: full price for preseason games. I keep saying this first

1172
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: season ticket holders. It's just it's just outrageous. The quarterback

1173
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: matchups in this game shook. There were some wild ones

1174
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: this weekend, but I think Riley Leonard and Jason Bean

1175
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: versus Desmond Ritter and Thorn. Who's Thorn Pee Thorn? I

1176
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: don't know who that is on the Bengals. That to

1177
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: me took the cake of the most preseason Week three

1178
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: matchup of the week. Peyton, we don't say anything about

1179
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: this game. Nothing happened in this game. Say something about

1180
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: one of these teams, if you please.

1181
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: No.

1182
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to give a shout out to the defensive

1183
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: back who came back from an acl tear as a

1184
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: rookie and then an achilles tear in the following season.

1185
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 2: Last name is Scott had a pick six That was nice.

1186
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, we know the story for the Colts,

1187
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: it's been the quarterback competition, it's been the whole Daniel

1188
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: Jones wins over Anthony Richardson, and I just see a

1189
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: low ceiling for each option in this offense in a

1190
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: year that change. Styken needs to win games because his

1191
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: job could be on the line. Same goes for Chris Ballard.

1192
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: I'm just not super inspired or encouraged by what the

1193
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: Colts have shown me in the preseason so far. So

1194
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: we'll see. And the Bengals, their big question mark was,

1195
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: you know, is their defense gonna be good? All the

1196
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: talk out of camp was like, oh, this defense might

1197
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: actually be good. We haven't seen it so far. When

1198
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: they played Washington on Monday night, they didn't look very good.

1199
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: So and you still have the Trey Hendrickson thing lingering

1200
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 2: out there as well. We know what this offense brings

1201
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: to the table, as long as their offensive line can

1202
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: hold up. We know what they're they're going to do,

1203
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: and surprising depth at running back as well. We know

1204
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: what they have a receiver and everything else. It's the defense.

1205
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I got those guys.

1206
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: They practice, they keep seing. Okay, that's great practice.

1207
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: Do it on the field. Do it in Cleveland a

1208
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: week one against forty year old Joe Flacco, and then

1209
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: maybe I'll buy in because you have guys that are

1210
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: unproven that you've drafted over the last few years that

1211
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: have to be contributors this year. It's good. It's a

1212
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: big ask, so I need to.

1213
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Prove they love me, Knight. But then he shows up

1214
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: in the games and he doesn't. He doesn't look good.

1215
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Back to the stike in of it all, I'm gonna

1216
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: play a clip and this is from the athletic reporter

1217
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: James Boyd asking Shane Stike in after you know, deciding

1218
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: to go with Daniel Jones, if he has any regrets

1219
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: and just like listen to the questions and listen to

1220
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: the answers. Beyond injuries, what other things do you think

1221
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: you could have done.

1222
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: To help the go and play get to where you see?

1223
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a process. It's a day in

1224
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: and day out process. Like I said, just in the

1225
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: meetings the classroom, you know the fundamentals of everything, and

1226
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 4: continue to work and stride in those areas. And he

1227
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: hasn't made improvements in those areas, and I think he's

1228
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: going to continue to improve in those areas.

1229
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: Because what you specifically though, what did you think you could.

1230
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: Have done well?

1231
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: I think you look back in those situations.

1232
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: Like I said, I mentioned the injuries, but again meeting

1233
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: with them, met a lot with them during those injuries,

1234
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 4: you know, just obviously from a mental standpoint, staying in it.

1235
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 4: And I think he did a good job with that

1236
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: and he's continue to improve with that.

1237
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: What you know, I'm always wondering, like gas lighting is

1238
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: one of those words that you're like, I know what

1239
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: it means, but it's hard to describe. What does it mean?

1240
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: Like that was gaslighting? He didn't remotely answer the questions

1241
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: what could have you done better? Shane Stikeen? And it

1242
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: I teed it up partly to get to a larger point,

1243
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: which is if Shane Stichen was a coach of a

1244
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: more popular team, a national team, I think he would

1245
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: get a lot more grief from how lame he is

1246
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: in front of the podium, how he never answers anything,

1247
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: and he sort of got like I'm smarter than you

1248
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: attitude when you know it just it just drives me

1249
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: a little crazy. A reporter is finally trying to drill

1250
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: down and ask a real question, and what were those answers.

1251
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: They were answers to a completely different question that I

1252
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: don't even know what that question.

1253
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: They weren't even answers to a different question. They were

1254
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: a defensive But he's it was his defense of himself.

1255
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: He's like, right, like, how could you have been better?

1256
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, I met with him a lot,

1257
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: like that's not what we asked. We asked how could

1258
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: you have been better? You could have said, well, I

1259
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: could have done X, Y and Z. No, he just

1260
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: recapped what he did for him. It reminded me of

1261
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: like a CEO of a company that's been caught red

1262
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: handed and then they just tap dance around it with

1263
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: you know, a word souad. That's kind of what that was.

1264
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: And you're right, I think that if they were a

1265
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: pillar franchise like a Cowboys or something like that, they'd

1266
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: be under the microscope daily for their current situation and

1267
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: how they handle this quarterback situation in the way that

1268
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: he operates, But they're not. So that kind of explains

1269
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: who the Colts are in a nutshell right now, and

1270
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: you hope that it ends up better than that.

1271
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: They said that, and Daniel Jones is gonna be the

1272
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: quarterback for the rest of the season. They also said

1273
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: that about Joe Flacca last year when they benched him,

1274
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: and two weeks later they went back to Richardson. I

1275
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to do that this year beyond

1276
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: like an injury or Daniel Jones going to four h five,

1277
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: But that's on the table. Either one of those things

1278
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: positive for the Colts. Tyler Warren looks legit. I'm surprised

1279
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: he's going as the tight end ten in fantasy leagues.

1280
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: Like if you told me he had a brock Bauers

1281
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: like rookie season, that wouldn't that wouldn't shock me. You know,

1282
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: I know there's not gonna be that many yards to

1283
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 1: go around there. But he looks legit. And you mentioned

1284
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: the Bengals offense shook. They had five drives in the preseason,

1285
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: they scored four touchdowns, Like they keep unearthing these receivers.

1286
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: Mitch Tinsley looks like a star. Shamar Stewart quickly passed

1287
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy and became the starting edge. I think that's

1288
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: a positive on the defensive side of things. But yeah,

1289
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: that just looks like more of the same for the Bengals,

1290
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: And it's been more of the same for this show too, Shook.

1291
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: I think we need to take a second break, because

1292
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do one final preseason takeaway show of

1293
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams, we're gonna go a little long.

1294
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: We'll be back in the night, back on NFL Daily, Shook.

1295
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, back in the old

1296
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, the round the NFL days, the unbelievable winning

1297
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: streak in the preseason of the Baltimore Ravens and oh yes,

1298
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: front of mine that had been and since they took

1299
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: on their loss, I've noticed they've gotten it going again

1300
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: this year, undefeated three and zero plus fifty three, thirty

1301
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: to three over the Commanders. Sure it might be a

1302
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: bunch of third and four stringers, but they just can't

1303
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: help themselves. They dominate the preseason. Man. Of all the

1304
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, I can't think of one that

1305
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: had a more uneventful camp, and for a good team,

1306
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: that's great. It's really ever since Isaiah Likely's injury and

1307
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's going to be ready for

1308
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: the start of the season or not, it's been quiet there.

1309
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: There really hasn't been much going on, and I feel

1310
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: good about my potential Ravens super Bowl pick right now,

1311
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: not that's gotten in their way.

1312
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: I feel better about that pick than I felt about

1313
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: your Bill's Super Bowl pick last year. And I'm completely

1314
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: on board with that pick.

1315
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: They got to the AMC title game. I mean, I

1316
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: know it wasn't a bad.

1317
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: You're right about the of the Ravens, though, Like every

1318
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: time I went through their games this preseason, I was

1319
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: more interested in the team they were playing, like I

1320
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: was watching it for the other team, not for Drew

1321
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: Leary and the Ravens off and Rashean Ali and random

1322
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: Dearness Johnson, Like, no, I don't need that. I want

1323
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: to see the other team play because I know who

1324
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: the Ravens are, and they know who they are, and

1325
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: they're still going to dominate the other team even if

1326
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: they're playing with a bunch of backups. It's just the

1327
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: sign of a rock solid franchise that has greater aspirations

1328
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: at this point in the season. So even in this

1329
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: game with a bunch of backups, this is one of

1330
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: those preseason games we were like, let's not talk about

1331
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: the game.

1332
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: Yes, we hit the Brian Robinson trade from the other side,

1333
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: but for the Commanders It's definitely a show of confidence

1334
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: for our guy, Corey Krofsky Merritt. I mean, I know

1335
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: the whole country got on this guy. But you know,

1336
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: we were there five or six weeks ago, really given

1337
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: weekly segments to Bill.

1338
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, did we know it was Bill at that time.

1339
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: We didn't know it was Bill for a couple of weeks.

1340
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: I think Chris Rodriguez will play for this team too.

1341
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: I think they like Austin Eckler. I actually think for

1342
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: fantasy people are probably getting over their skis when it

1343
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: comes to Bill because I think they're gonna play Jeremy McNichols,

1344
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna play Austin Eckler, like they're gonna play all

1345
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: these guys. But it Crossky Merrit's still fun. I noticed,

1346
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, Luke McCaffrey's out there with a deep third stringers.

1347
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: Noah Brown's been hurt all Camp two. One underrated thing

1348
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: for this offense is that I think they're gonna miss

1349
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: thea kias Olamide Zakias and Diami Brown more than people remember.

1350
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, they added Deebo Samuel, but those guys

1351
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: are pretty good NFL receivers, and you're kind of seeing

1352
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: them actually have real roles in their new spots for

1353
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: a reason, and no one really stepped up in the

1354
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: depth group in camp in terms of the practice reports

1355
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: from the commanders.

1356
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean, if you look at them

1357
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: on paper, I've always liked kJ Osbourne from his time

1358
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, But yeah, if you're swapping and you want

1359
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 2: proven production from veterans that are just like replacement level

1360
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,479
Speaker 2: or slightly better, I think it's a concern for them.

1361
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: And you also wonder are you gonna get in a

1362
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: full season at a debos. That's really the big thing

1363
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 2: with them. So overall though, I'm not gonna like sound

1364
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: the alarm bells with them because we really don't know

1365
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: what they're gonna look like until he take the field

1366
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: in Week one, but yeah, it's yeah, you could be better.

1367
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: And McCaffrey playing in the you know, in the third

1368
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: quarter with the third stringers that's not really encouraging, but

1369
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: you kind of saw this going in that direction for

1370
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 2: most of this camp in preseason.

1371
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: I like the secondary, and I like marsh and Lattimore

1372
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: staying healthy and practicing throughout camp. I can't, you know,

1373
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: tell you how rare that is. Saints fans know that

1374
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: it just hasn't happened in years and years, So that's

1375
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: a good sign for him. Trey Amos, their rookie cornerback.

1376
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: Everything has been positive with him. All right, Let's get

1377
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: to the Bears Chiefs game of the week. You know,

1378
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, we can't possibly expose Davis Mills

1379
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: to the rigors of preseason week three. He's too valuable.

1380
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: We gotta sit Davis Mills. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes, one of

1381
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: the greatest players in the history of this sport, is

1382
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: out there into the second quarter, diming the Bears starting defense.

1383
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: And I sent out a tweet last week took about

1384
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: guys I want in my fantasy leagues, you know, guys

1385
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: who I want to draft. Included some under the radar guys.

1386
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: Baschelle Touton was in there. It included some stars like, oh,

1387
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know J Brown, And I wanted to

1388
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: put Patrick Mahomes there, and I didn't. I didn't put

1389
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes because I whimped out because I know Fantasy

1390
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: white like, I think this is the year to go

1391
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: get him a fantasy picky by low Sell High. And

1392
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: I just got a feeling they're gonna be going deep.

1393
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a little bit back to the Chiefs.

1394
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: They certainly were in this game. Great protection against the

1395
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: Bears starters, they dominated, They look awesome, and they made

1396
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: me a little more excited to watch the Chiefs.

1397
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: This is one of the rare preseason games where I

1398
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: felt like I really gained something from watching this this contest.

1399
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was like the field

1400
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: mics were hot or something, but it sounded really loud

1401
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: at Arrowhead for a preseason.

1402
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 5: Yes, the energy, he's super high, like they were fired

1403
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 5: up at Arrowhead, And I think it was because Patrick

1404
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 5: Mahomes was doing Patrick Mahomes things, making plays out of structure,

1405
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 5: just dropping dimes, throwing a beautiful pass to Jujus Smith

1406
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 5: Schuster to convert a third down that looked impossible to convert,

1407
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 5: and keep a drive alive, leading him down the field

1408
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: for a touchdown. Finding a guy that I think is

1409
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 5: going to bring a lot of value to Patrick Mahomes

1410
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 5: and this Chief Chiefs offense overall. It's Taekwon Thornton because

1411
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 5: of what he can do stretching the field. As soon

1412
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 5: as he caught his first pass.

1413
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: In this game, I went God, how did they let

1414
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: the Chiefs get this guy, because this was a former

1415
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: draft pick who was all about speed and stretching the field.

1416
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: And if any team needed a receiver to stretch the field,

1417
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: it was the Chiefs since that used to be their identity.

1418
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: And now he's on the team and he's gonna make

1419
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 2: plays for them. So yeah, this was a game that

1420
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: I looked back and I was like, oh, this makes

1421
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: me excited for the regular season. I also want to

1422
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: note that like ten different guys logged at least one

1423
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: rushing attempt, Isaiah Pacheco, Patrick Mahomes, Carson Steel, kream Hunt,

1424
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: Elijah Mitchell, Chris Oldoakin Garden Minshew, and like, just continue

1425
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 2: going down the list, like that's amazing. Three of those

1426
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: guys are quarterbacks. Like this is how crazy this game was.

1427
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if Elijah Mitchell is going to make

1428
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: this team. For what it's worth it if you're interested, Yeah,

1429
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: sort of thing. I did. Hear Brett Veach on the broadcast,

1430
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: who's been working out? By the way, you can always

1431
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: tell the gms that have been working out in the offseason,

1432
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: he's been working out. He popped Bushard Smith their seventh

1433
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: round pick and really gave him a lot of love,

1434
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, ooh, the GM's given him love.

1435
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: That that's something to file away. I still think he'd

1436
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: be a nice deep Fantasy league type of pick. The

1437
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: Josh Simmons at left tackle thing. It's really it's really

1438
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: a thing so good. Yeah, part of my confidence in

1439
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes is just the law of averages. You know, he

1440
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: is the best quarterback in football, and careers go through

1441
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: little ups and downs, even for the greatest, and so

1442
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: he's just like, yeah, he's not gonna have three straight

1443
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: years like that. I mean, I think he's just you

1444
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like he's due, and I think

1445
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: some of the reasons of what's around him will help.

1446
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: Let's stock Caleb Williams, who made Ben Johnson a little

1447
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: salty after the game. He was kind of like, that

1448
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: was sloppy early. The first couple drives against the Chiefs

1449
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: starters were sloppy, just not sharp, some mental mistakes. I

1450
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: don't think Caleb Williams was seeing the field very well.

1451
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: It was holding on to the ball that the Bears

1452
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: defense was run over a little bit too. But you know,

1453
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: once the Chiefs backups kind of came in there, Caleb

1454
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: right of the ship, and it looked better. So I'm

1455
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: not drawing too many conclusions, but it is a reminder

1456
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: this could be an up and down process. Ben Johnson said, like, look,

1457
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: these are some of the things that have been plaguing

1458
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: us in practice showing up this time in the game. Yeah.

1459
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. It felt also like approach wise, they didn't really

1460
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: let Caleb throw consistently, like on a play by play basis,

1461
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: until he got to that two minute situation at the

1462
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: end of the first half, and at that point they

1463
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,479
Speaker 2: started to unleash. And at that point they were also

1464
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 2: playing the backups and they produced. And before that it

1465
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: was a lot of third and long Caleb in a

1466
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 2: pocket that's slowly crumbling around him, doing that thing where

1467
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: he stands still in the pocket and then at the

1468
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: last second decides to rip one. Some of them are positive,

1469
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: but yeah, the offense just felt a little disjointed until

1470
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: that last two minute situation in which they finally, you know,

1471
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: picked up some steam and ended with a touchdown pass

1472
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 2: to Romo Dunze. I think this is going to be

1473
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: a work in progress for them throughout this season, but

1474
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: I do feel a lot better about them That's that

1475
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 2: was my one takeaway watching this game was Okay, at

1476
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: least I feel better about these Bears under Ben Johnson,

1477
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: even if it doesn't happen overnight then I did going

1478
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: into last season with Matt Eberflus, Like I can see

1479
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: the vision here. They're gonna climb steadily. It's just not

1480
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 2: gonna happen immediately. And if you're a Bears fan, I

1481
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: think you can sign up for that.

1482
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: So I just mentioned I'll meet a z A Kiyas.

1483
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a part of this offense. That's one

1484
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: of my takeaways is like he is going to get

1485
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: passes in this offense. They're running back two right now,

1486
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: partly because of injuries. Is a man I don't know

1487
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: that well. Kyle Manung guy.

1488
01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 5: Guy.

1489
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little thin at running back too, but

1490
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: he's he's looked okay to Kwan Brisker, who had that

1491
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: terrible concussion last year, had a healthy summer. So that

1492
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: was just something I wanted to know. And then the

1493
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs made a trade on Sunday bringing back Derek Noddy

1494
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: from the Jets for a late round conditional pickswap, so

1495
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: that he probably was not making the Jets, but the

1496
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs are familiar with him, So a depth pick up there.

1497
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: Joshua Williams, their cornerback who you know, had some pretty

1498
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: significant snaps and Super bowls, at least the one against

1499
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: the the Eagles the first time around, might be on

1500
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: the cutting block or a trade candidate. Something to watch there.

1501
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: Let's go Titans. Vikings. We already talked Carson Wentz, We

1502
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: already talked Max Brozmer. The last Vikings point before we

1503
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: get to a little Titans is that there's been some

1504
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:56,480
Speaker 1: pop shook about a potential Adam Thielen trade to Minnesota.

1505
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: They traded Harrison Phillips last week, a defensive tackle, and

1506
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: some people think and that might have been to open

1507
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: up a little cap space to get this feeling deal done.

1508
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: The reporting is that they still have some financial things

1509
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: to work out to try to make that happen.

1510
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the talk on him was originally that

1511
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: to the front office, which always suggests to me that, yeah,

1512
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: we're on board with that idea. We know what the

1513
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: receiver situation is with them right now. You have Jordan

1514
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: Edison going to be suspended to start the year, Jalen

1515
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: Naylor dealing with something justin Jefferson, you don't feel super

1516
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: confident about him, Like, basically, they're thin at the position

1517
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: and they're relying on rookies like Lucky Jackson and possibly

1518
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: Ty Felton to find a fit in this But if

1519
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: you're a team that wants to get to where you

1520
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 2: were last year, you kind of can't afford to take

1521
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: that risk. So why not bring back a guy who

1522
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 2: knows Minnesota very well and prove last year that he

1523
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: can still be a productive receiver? Get him out of Carolina,

1524
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: get him back with the Viking, see if he's got

1525
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: one more or maybe two more good years left with him.

1526
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: It's like a stop gap option that you can count on.

1527
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: I love it. He looked good last year for the Panthers. Now,

1528
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: should the Panthers be trading a way a reliable receiver,

1529
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but their receiver room is a lot deeper

1530
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: and more encouraging than it was previously. And just as

1531
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: a fan and remembering all the great feeling moments in Minnesota,

1532
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: I would love to see it, So that feels like

1533
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: a win win trade. Cam Ward finished a quietly impressive

1534
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: preseason twelve for twenty two for one hundred and fifty

1535
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: two yards and I really like what Brian Callahan, his coach,

1536
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: said after the game, just that it just doesn't seem

1537
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: too big for him, and sometimes he's a little late

1538
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: on his throes, but his arm makes up for it.

1539
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: That's me talking. He had this deep out where he's

1540
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: throwing the ball off his own goal line to Van Jefferson,

1541
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: where he layers it over the underneath defender but with

1542
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: enough speed to get it to Jefferson on the sideline,

1543
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: and man, he just whips that thing in there, shook,

1544
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: and I have think I thought he's had a really

1545
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: nice preseason for a number one overall draft pick. I'm

1546
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: just even more excited to watch him this year.

1547
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: I think whips is a great way to describe this,

1548
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 2: because that is his throwing emotion in a nutshell. And

1549
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: on the broadcast, they were talking about how Tennessee's coaches

1550
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 2: have tried to get him to step into his throws more,

1551
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: but I think he has enough arm strength, talent and

1552
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: accuracy to be able to get away with that in

1553
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: most instances. Like that's a very accurate throw that's essentially

1554
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: almost off platform because he's just like kind of floating

1555
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: backward and just lets it rip by whipping it. And

1556
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't the only time he made a throw like that.

1557
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: There was another throw in this game where he was rolling,

1558
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: I believe, to his right and you're watching it from

1559
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: the sideline view on the broadcast, and I see I

1560
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: think it was Julius Chestnut. It came open on the backside,

1561
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at him at Chestnut open, I'm going

1562
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's gonna take that throw. If he

1563
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: sees him, he's gonna take that risk, because a lot

1564
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks that's a no no, don't throw across your body.

1565
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 2: Ward sees it and just whips it right over to

1566
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: him for completion, and I'm like, Dad, is Miami camboard.

1567
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: That is the guy that could elevate this team as

1568
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: a whole. This should be your franchise quarterback. I think

1569
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: it's going to take time for them to get better

1570
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: around him. It's gonna take multiple years. But I do

1571
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: think even off of this preseason action, that he gave

1572
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: them a very encouraging sample size that they can take

1573
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: with positive momentum into the season, even if the season

1574
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 2: ends up being a pretty trying one.

1575
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just he just looks like a guy that's ready,

1576
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm ready to give him the honor

1577
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: that it's time for the Who Delivered presented by Uber

1578
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: Eat And I am saying that cam Ward delivered for

1579
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: me because Titans fans are out there, They're wanting more

1580
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: attention on their number one overall pick. But every time

1581
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: I hear cam Woard talked about it's like nobody pays

1582
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: attention to cam Ward. Well, if everyone's saying that people

1583
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: are paying attention and he is delivering, not only on

1584
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: the field with throws like that. And I think Van Jefferson,

1585
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: if he was not gonna make that team, and I'm

1586
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: not sure he was a lock, he might have made

1587
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: it in that game because he went three for one

1588
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: oh three, I think a crazy stat line in that game.

1589
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if Tyler Lockett's like, definitely definitely on this team.

1590
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, someone's gotta be the odd

1591
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: man out here, but ultimately it's not cam Ward. And

1592
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: in a week that you got into a fight with

1593
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, I mean, nothing says more I'm not afraid

1594
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,799
Speaker 1: of nobody than getting in a fight with Jeffrey Simmons.

1595
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: Maybe the most fearsome like player in the entire league

1596
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: than that, and cam Wood kind of joked about it,

1597
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: you know, when they asked him about it the next day, saying,

1598
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, what did you learn? I learned that Jeffrey

1599
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: Simmons is a strong man and Jeffrey Simmons has reportedly

1600
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: looked good. So yeah, shout out to cam Ward. Can't

1601
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,879
Speaker 1: wait to watch him. Week one. That was who Delivered

1602
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,800
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1605
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: Falcons played Joe Milton's Revenge. Actually played pretty well in

1606
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: this game. They did have an injury. Jaden Blue, their

1607
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: running back, hurt his ankle. Another injured player, Trayvon Diggs,

1608
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: was activated by the Cowboys on Sunday, So that's a

1609
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: really good sign that maybe he could be ready for

1610
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, or at least close to it.

1611
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: They are going to carry him on the fifty three

1612
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: man roster. That's really interesting And I don't know, Shook,

1613
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: if you saw the Micah Parsons situation, how would you

1614
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: describe how he was on the sideline.

1615
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: He was taking a cista on a training table, which, look,

1616
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, if you're tired, you're a little

1617
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: exhausted from like participating, a training table is a great

1618
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: place to take a nap. Sure, except he hasn't been

1619
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: participating in weeks because of all the drama that we've

1620
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: already covered at nauseum. But yeah, he didn't look very

1621
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: engaged in that sideline, so I think we continue to

1622
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: monitor that, which is kind of getting stranger by the week.

1623
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: I am very bummed about the Jaden Blue news because

1624
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: I think this running back room for as low of

1625
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: a ceiling as it has, or at least I'm a

1626
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: pessimist when I look at them. I was very intrigued

1627
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: by his role in this, and it was interesting to

1628
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: see how they divided up the reps in this game.

1629
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: You saw a lot of Deuce Fawn, you saw a

1630
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: lot of Jaden Blue. He doesn't have He's not the

1631
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: type of guy that like checks the old Chris Westling

1632
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,919
Speaker 2: box of like that guy's got the juice in the preseason,

1633
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: but there's moments where I'm like, Okay, I could see

1634
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: him playing a key role in this offense, possibly as

1635
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: a third downback, maybe somebody takes a decent amount of carries,

1636
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: so as we try to figure out how they're gonna,

1637
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, order up this this running back room and

1638
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 2: whether Miles Sanders is actually cut out for it or not.

1639
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: Hearing that, knowing that he got hurt, it's a bummer

1640
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: for me because I think that this is just one

1641
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,839
Speaker 2: of the more intriguing position groups all beat a low ceiling,

1642
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: And especially after a game in which Joe Milton finally

1643
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: played well, I was very happy to see his week

1644
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: by week progression. I was like, oh, okay, now he's

1645
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: actually knows how to throw a fade he didn't know

1646
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 2: how to for two previous weeks. He's reading coverages, he's

1647
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: making decisions, he's not just making plays with his legs.

1648
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: That was very encouraging to see. But as it is

1649
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys, usually Kanoff just have nothing but good news,

1650
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: even after a preseason game.

1651
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: Right they mean that. The Diggs news to me is

1652
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: a big one. Jalen guy in there talking their left tackle,

1653
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: that he might be back a little earlier than people think.

1654
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: So these are stories we will be tracking. Mazzie Smith,

1655
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: their former first pick, was out there deep into the game,

1656
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: which indicates they might be cutting him For the Falcons.

1657
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: I keep feeling like I just don't have much on them.

1658
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 1: It's partly because they don't play any of their meaningful players.

1659
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: But I did see you know, Atlanta Falcons dot com

1660
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: right that. You know. Pearce and Walker are both not

1661
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: expected to start. There are two rookies, Jalen Walker and

1662
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: James Pierce, and it seems like James Pierce is actually

1663
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: a head of Jalen Walker, who's overcoming an injury, so

1664
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: he might be fourth in line at edge. Not anything

1665
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: to panic about, but something to track. You would want

1666
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: that to progress sooner than later during the season. Raheem

1667
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: Morris also confirmed Kayleb McGarry their tackle is going to

1668
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: be out for a significant time. We hit that earlier

1669
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: on the show, but you know, confirmed by the coach

1670
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: that he's going to be out.

1671
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: Awhile.

1672
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Giants Patriots. You know, if there's one thing that

1673
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: the Giants love, it's seeing the flying l of the

1674
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: Patriots helmet coming their way. Forty two Giants, ten Patriots.

1675
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: They put a hurt on the Patriots backups. Now they

1676
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: had you know, mostly backups in but so did the Giants,

1677
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: and the Giants backups look good. You know, Jackson dark

1678
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: comes in look pretty good again. Like Ryan Table was

1679
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: so mad when Jalen Hyatt dropped his precious quarterbacks pass

1680
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: in this game.

1681
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: He dropped two of them and then he finally caught one.

1682
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: Like was this this week? It seems so long ago.

1683
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: It was.

1684
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: He dropped two great throws by Jackson Dart, Darkns knocked out.

1685
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 2: Jamis comes in, first throw touchdown pass the Jalen hy

1686
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: Hyatt who finally catches a contested ball, Like I was

1687
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 2: just like, ah, come on, man, Dart looks very good,

1688
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 2: like very capable of handling that job. It's gonna be

1689
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 2: a situation to monitor, especially if they get off to

1690
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: a slow start. Like I know, there was a lot

1691
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 2: of like consternation uncertainty about him going into the draft,

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 2: and I totally understand that. And it's not that I

1693
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 2: was entirely on board, but I was into they Oh man,

1694
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: I see what the Giants saw. Now. I know it's

1695
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 2: only the preseason, but I'm very encouraged to see what

1696
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: he looks like in an NFL game of the regular season,

1697
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: because I liked what I saw throughout this preseason.

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01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be such a different offense with him,

1699
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: and you just see that, like some people are like, well,

1700
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: but he's not testing the ball downfield. There's not a

1701
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: lot of like super pro concepts. Like it's like, yeah,

1702
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna look like when he actually plays too.

1703
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: That's what you do is build the offense around your quarterback.

1704
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: He's a rookie. Just feels like they're wasting time with

1705
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I don't think he's gonna make it through,

1706
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, three weeks, because unless they just you know,

1707
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: pull off some upsets. They have the command one you

1708
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: could win that. You could win that game certainly, but

1709
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: if they're not winning, I think he's gone. Might be

1710
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: the end of Tommy DeVito with the Giants, although he

1711
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: could always end up on the practice squad. Kim Skataboo

1712
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: didn't really happen in the preseason. That's fine, but he's

1713
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, third on the depth chart. I would guess

1714
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: going into the season. Jack Jacksondar did fumble and take

1715
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: a big hit on his last play. I know a

1716
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: penalty overturned, you know, it being a fumble, but he

1717
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: didn't know that as as he was like, you know,

1718
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: putting his body on the line, So you want you

1719
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: want to avoid that for the Patriots Ian rapport our guy,

1720
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, confirm what it seemed pretty clear, which is

1721
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: that Kyle Duggar is available if you wanted to trade

1722
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: for him. I saw Mike Rabel get all, you know,

1723
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: up in arms, you know, calling calling someone a rat

1724
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: that Jalen. You know that Jalen Polk was reported to

1725
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: be out for the season. Hearing Mike Rabel caution the

1726
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: media about the dangers of like unnamed sources, like, hmm, Like,

1727
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: I I sure see a lot of like pro Mike

1728
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: Rabel stuff every time he's looking for a job or

1729
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: trying to keep his job that are attributed to unnamed sources.

1730
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: So it's just like, calm down. Let let people report

1731
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: things if they're factual. He wasn't questioning the factual nature

1732
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: of Jalen Polk being out for the season. I don't

1733
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: know what more to say about the Patriots other than

1734
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: h Caleb on chas On hadn't mentioned him on this show.

1735
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: Has had a great camp, a great preseason, had a

1736
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: sneaky great year for the Raiders last year, and I

1737
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: think has passed Keyon White on the depth chart where

1738
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: he's ahead of them at edge. They're decent at edge.

1739
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: Up front, you got Harold Landry too, Like they have

1740
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: a pretty fun front. But it is interesting Keon White

1741
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: now kind of playing with the backups. Keep an eye

1742
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: kleb On Chason might be having kind of like a

1743
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 1: mid career former first round pick renaissance, kind of Dante

1744
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: Fowler style like the Jaguars, where yeah, disappointment for the

1745
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: Jaguars but ends up being like a really solid pro

1746
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: who has a longer career. That would be the hope

1747
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: for him.

1748
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: Another comp maybe like Leonard Floyd, Like give you much

1749
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 2: of Chicago's.

1750
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 1: On who's ahead of those two young guys in Atlanta,

1751
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 1: He's one of the guys ahead.

1752
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 2: Of the team. Yeah, I like that.

1753
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: I like that.

1754
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 2: Where do we see this Patriots receiver room shaking out?

1755
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,879
Speaker 2: Now that we've got this information in a full preseason

1756
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: worth of you know, tap.

1757
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: So Efton Chisholm, their undrafted rookie is making this team

1758
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: and could have a decent role on the team. He

1759
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: really looked that good in the preseason. Stefan Diggs, I

1760
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: think has had a pretty quiet maybe concerning preseason in

1761
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: camp in terms of he does not look like a

1762
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: number one receiver. But I think it's the Mario Douglas,

1763
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: It's Stefan Diggs, It's Mac Collins as as their top

1764
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: three receivers, and then Kyle Williams who got concussed in

1765
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: this game, and Chisholm are probably four and five. I

1766
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: think they're going with like the younger guys here and

1767
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't you know, Jalen Polk is hurt,

1768
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 1: and I think maybe the forty nine ers trade for

1769
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne. That would make a lot of sense to me.

1770
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: Yep, does Javon Baker somebody that you end up seeing

1771
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: getting like practice squadded.

1772
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 1: And maybe like someone would pick him up. He's fast,

1773
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: they could keep him as a special teamer, but he's

1774
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: he's further down down the list. I'm more interested in

1775
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line, Like, yeah, Cole Strange might be available,

1776
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: Like anyone that Bill Belichick drafted, they're available. Like Rabele

1777
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: just wants to get rid of all these guys. I mean,

1778
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: like it's crazy they're trading Douggard there. They're gonna be

1779
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 1: starting potentially a fourth round rookie Craig Woodson, who a

1780
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: lot of people thought that was a reach, but he's

1781
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: going to play like I don't know if Garrett Bradbury's

1782
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: starting that offensive line. Their offensive line is easily the

1783
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: most concerning part of the team that it's not enough

1784
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: better compared to a year ago. And let's get to

1785
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Panthers. We are wrapping up our

1786
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: recaps with bad news. Derek Harmon, their first round pick,

1787
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: sprained his knee in the preseason finale and he is

1788
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: going to be out four to six weeks. Might not

1789
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: be ir but we'll see. They have had a rookie

1790
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: shook Yah Yah Black play pretty well behind him. So

1791
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: I still think they feel good about their depth up front. Really,

1792
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: their concerns are on the offensive side. I do not

1793
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,839
Speaker 1: think they have a ton of concerns about the defense.

1794
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting in this game that they

1795
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: played this week that you know, against the Panthers, that

1796
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 2: Pat Freyermuth was getting like a ton of snaps outside

1797
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 2: of the starters.

1798
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: I think that might have been a situation where he

1799
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: hadn't previously because he was coming off an injury, and

1800
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: that does happen sometimes where you want to get a

1801
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: guy more work who hasn't before. But they are deep

1802
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: at tight end, so your tinfoil hat might not be

1803
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: that crazy. Like John new Smith, Darnol Washington is he

1804
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: is he third in line now where they showcasing him

1805
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: for a trader could certainly get something for Pat Fryarmouth.

1806
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just even his body language kind of suggested

1807
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 2: that he was a little frustrated with the fact that

1808
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: he was out there. He was just that's interesting. That

1809
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: made me raise an eyebrow.

1810
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: They are healthy at tackle. Troy Fiotanu and Broderick Jones

1811
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: I think had good camps like step Forward Footano. They're

1812
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: really hoping it is going to be good. But Proderc

1813
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: Jones was healthy. He's moved back to left tackle where

1814
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: he used to play before. So their offensive line is

1815
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: really important to protect Aaron Rodgers because no one really

1816
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 1: stepped up at that wide receiver battle by all accounts,

1817
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: if you average all the reporting, like Scottie Miller might

1818
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: be their second best.

1819
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 2: Wide receiver, which is middle catch this game.

1820
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: Right, Calvin Austen has been hurt Aaron Rodgers like Scotty Miller,

1821
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: they should be looking for wide receivers. The Panthers apparently

1822
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: aren't if they're going to trade Adam Thieling. They rested

1823
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 1: all their backups in this game, and so really my

1824
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from this this camp was I'm excited

1825
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: for the Tetuoa McMillan era, and I think the Panthers

1826
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: are too.

1827
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: The t mac era. Let it begin sands, the Adidas shoes,

1828
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 2: the sneakers.

1829
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1830
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: There was an injury in this game, or maybe it

1831
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 1: was in practice, I'm not sure which it was. Princely

1832
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: Uman Miellen hurt his shoulder hitting Darnault Washington, which is

1833
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: probably going to become like a really common way to

1834
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: get injured, just like throwing your shoulder into the mount.

1835
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: Into Mount Washington. Yes, right, of course.

1836
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: I mean I loved Darnaut Washington. And so that's two

1837
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: of their young pass rushers who are out. We don't

1838
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: know how long the injury is going to be for

1839
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: Uman Miellen, but Nick Gorton is also out with the

1840
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: collapse long. They have a lot of questions on their defense,

1841
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: but I feel pretty good about their offense and where

1842
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 1: they are at. I feel good about where we're at. Shooky,

1843
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: we did it. I don't know how many games are

1844
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I could do the math forty nine, right, yeah,

1845
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: because you know sixteen I like that, and then one

1846
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. We're done, it's over.

1847
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: We did it, Ceciliano. I think it was who tweeted

1848
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: out the table games and then said like two hundred

1849
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: and seventy eight regular season games or something like that.

1850
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: The grind truly begins now, Sicko season. It may seem

1851
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: to be over, but it's actually only just begun because

1852
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: we have eighteen weeks of football all of us after

1853
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: this dead week. Also, at one last comp for you,

1854
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: since we just talked about it, Scotty Miller, New Age,

1855
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Jeff Janis no one.

1856
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: Channis is like a big strang just kidding. I'm just kidding, buddy,

1857
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 1: you know. I see the comp though, and that just

1858
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 1: Rogers likes it.

1859
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: Random receivers that Aaron Rodgers likes.

1860
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I like that. Jeff Janis caught one of his

1861
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: hail Mary's right, Yes he does. That was the best

1862
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Janis moment. So you called it a dead week,

1863
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that personally. Is actually going to be

1864
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: one of the best weeks of NFL Daily content of

1865
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: the season. We have also forties and free agents coming out.

1866
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: We're wrapping up our division previews. We're gonna preview the

1867
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: whole season. So that's actually the next show that you're

1868
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: going to hear in your feet as a forties and

1869
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: free agent, and so we'll hit any news from Monday

1870
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,879
Speaker 1: with that, me and Daniel Jeremiah, but then Jordan Rodrig

1871
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: myself Patrick Claiban are going to be there later in

1872
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: the week. We're going to have some awards previews. I

1873
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: love doing that. I'm going to have a special guest.

1874
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Very excited to have Nick, Right, you got to come

1875
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: on Nick now that I'm saying your name for our

1876
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: annual over underdraft. That is one of my favorite episodes

1877
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: of the entire season. So we are going daily throughout

1878
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 1: the next week leading into our regular week one schedule,

1879
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: which you are going to be a huge part of Shook.

1880
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 1: You know, you're carrying doing Yeoman's work on the primetime game.

1881
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: So I will see you.

1882
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: Then, but looking forward to it, and I know a

1883
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: lot of people are looking forward to the over Under show.

1884
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: That's one of the favorites.

1885
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: It's the least talked about, most amazing streak in sports

1886
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: three straight years. I have gone undefeated on the over

1887
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 1: under picks going into the season. See if we can

1888
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: turn it into four. That is it for today's NFL Daily.

1889
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: I was waiting for that music and honking too much

1890
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: at the end of like an hour and a half show,

1891
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,480
Speaker 1: but these Sundays have been delicious. Shook, we did it.

1892
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: It's the last one, five weeks. It's over, but look back.