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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive to the biggest stories in sports, entertainment

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Speaker 1: and culture. You're hearing my voice already. We start with

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Speaker 1: headline news and journey two deeper conversations, always finding those

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Speaker 1: life lessons that are presented in every single story. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Marcel's wally dad dude, and today Nurse Rivers,

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Speaker 1: not Doc Rivers. Right now, I'm Nurse Rivers. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little better than I was yesterday, but not as good

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Speaker 1: as I'm gonna be tomorrow. But that's how it goes

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Speaker 1: when you're out here coaching these little pros.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know, I love it too much.

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Speaker 1: They call me Phil Belichick because of the coaching, the basketball,

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Speaker 1: coaching the football, and I'm trying to do it at

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Speaker 1: the highest level.

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Speaker 2: But feeling good. I'm feeling much better than I did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have us an amazing show because we

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Speaker 1: do amazing things around here. But first, let's start off

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Speaker 1: with what's up with that dude? Other than the frogs

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Speaker 1: that are going rivet in my throat? Yesterday, they had

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Speaker 1: a meeting with my bank.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny because I know.

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Speaker 1: A lot of us have relationships with our banks, but

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Speaker 1: it's usually Hey, I'm a deposit and then I'm a

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Speaker 1: withdraw And then you walk in a lot of times

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Speaker 1: every day just to sit at that desk right behind

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Speaker 1: the computer, and rarely you see people over there talking

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Speaker 1: to them. Well, how about this? What about the executive

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Speaker 1: level of your bank? What about the people up top

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Speaker 2: How many times have you, guys, ever walked up in there.

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Speaker 1: And I hope you feel privileged enough to do that,

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Speaker 1: because if you.

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Speaker 2: Give them your money, you are a partner in that bank.

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Speaker 1: So that was something that I grew up not really

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Speaker 1: understanding because I didn't have a lot of money, so

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of access to the capitol.

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Speaker 1: I want you all to understand you got power, and

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Speaker 1: you need to strengthen that relationship, not just what your

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Speaker 1: you can get better products, better packages. They do look

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Speaker 1: out for those who look out for themselves as well,

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Speaker 1: so it's not just the bank statement.

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Speaker 2: I hear some of y'all. Right now, I ain't got

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Speaker 2: enough money to be going up in there talking to

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Speaker 1: The banks work on margins, they work on percentages. You

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Speaker 1: all seen it right, four point three seven Apr. Four

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Speaker 1: point three seven, You know that point three seventies. They

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Speaker 1: So if you feel like you're too small to be

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Speaker 1: So I had a great meeting with them, even though

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Speaker 1: Her swim lessons and she does these intense swim resource

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Speaker 1: we know, yesterday Jalen Hurts broke the bank and set

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Speaker 2: He got five years, two hundred and fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Million dollars include seventy nine Here we go again, point

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Speaker 1: want about Lamar Jackson. While you're eating your caviar, you're like,

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Speaker 2: Let's have some fun in these comments and see who's

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Speaker 1: Because jaylen Hurst is sitting there like, oh, mister hurts,

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Speaker 1: Frankly, when the story started, when it first occurred, I

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Speaker 1: But Damar Hamlin, Buffalo Bill's safety has been cleared for

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Speaker 1: Everyone so distraught, right, And I'm just sitting there like wow.

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Speaker 2: Again to play football. Kaboom. Right, So, now you get

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Speaker 2: to the place where you do the examinations. He's fine physically,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. When you get hurt in football,

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Speaker 1: for all those out there. When you get embarrassed. When

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Speaker 2: We're not doing that again. Therefore, you see people walking

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I remember getting hip to this guy, Mikey Williams years

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Speaker 1: Well right now, he's got an issue that may make

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Michael Williams.

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Speaker 1: We know where he is, five star recruit everyone it

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Speaker 1: He's denied any wrongdoing after being charged with assault, and

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Speaker 2: Now, let's get to the story, the meat of it.

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Speaker 1: San Diego County Chairs Department claims that the shooting occurred

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Speaker 2: Who hasn't been there before? Right? Having a house party?

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Speaker 1: Funny thing about a house party security's already compromised because

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Speaker 2: A high schooler would go to or have.

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Speaker 1: He ain't sitting there hiring the black suit guys that

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Speaker 2: Now, no one was injured in the shooting. Good.

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Speaker 1: There was a verbal argument, guess in the house being

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Speaker 1: So when I first heard it, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Is bad enough. But the car was hit. That means

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Speaker 1: So now Mikey acknowledges that a disturbance occurred at the house,

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Speaker 2: Guests were the problem. Okay, let's get to it. We

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Speaker 1: Old, who also signed a Puma deal, making him the

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Speaker 2: Right, that's next level.

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Speaker 1: Ronnie James doesn't even have that yet, but we know

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Speaker 2: A lot of things. I remember when John Morant was

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Speaker 1: It seemed like every day for older reports of him

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Speaker 2: Out of that. And I'm knowing that I'm not alone

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Speaker 1: And when you do escape those type of violent circumstances

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Speaker 2: But what I see a lot of times is people

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Speaker 1: Okay, of course you want to be safer, You want

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Speaker 2: Trust me.

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Speaker 1: All these school shootings and all these kids getting killed everywhere, suburbs,

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But you know what you also need to do is

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Speaker 2: The issues of where he's from.

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Speaker 1: And that's the problem, because that's the whole thing about

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Speaker 1: You don't need to be anybody of that esteem and

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Speaker 1: Just wanted to touch on this story. Obviously. I hope

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Speaker 1: I hope that he didn't do this. Frankly, because I

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Speaker 1: that involves him going to college for one and done

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Speaker 2: Oh my man, Raymond Green got caught with his foot

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Speaker 2: saw it coming. But let's talk through it. Beat by beat.

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green got ejected after a flagrant two on sabonas

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Speaker 1: Sabon received the flagrant one because Draymond Green stepped on

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Speaker 2: What just happened to.

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Speaker 1: Be there on the floor was Sabonis and his sternum

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Speaker 1: Draymond yeah to the crowd. Yeah, Like I've never seen

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Speaker 1: a guy so excited that he got kicked out. But

439
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: that's what you do right now, Like you get the

440
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: clicks off of that one. Like, ah, I'm just so

441
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: locked in. I'm so crazy about this so aniko that

442
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: I lost and got kicked out the game, and that's

443
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: gonna help my team somehow. I don't get it, all right,

444
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: let's go. First thing I thought was whatever Draymond gets,

445
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: Sabonus deserves as well.

446
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: Why because the dominoes started to.

447
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: Fall, the first one with Sabonis as Sabonus was on

448
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: the ground, And I've been in all these moments and

449
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: I hate when fans don't understand how players manipulate y'all

450
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: through what they say, but not what they do. Okay,

451
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: So I've been in those type of moments before. Sabonus

452
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: is on the ground and he on the ground, it

453
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: moves and slewmotion. Why he's a highly skilled professional athlete.

454
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: The world doesn't come to him in the same speed

455
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Speaker 1: of frame as it does for you and I. He

456
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Speaker 1: is on another level me on the football field, on

457
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Speaker 1: another level, right.

458
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 2: He sees things in these.

459
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Speaker 1: Micro frames to the point where when he's on the ground,

460
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Speaker 1: he's composed enough and he's skilled enough to just wrap

461
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: his arms around Draymond Green's ankle and gently just hold on. Now,

462
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: he didn't squeeze them to death, because that's too obvious. Referee,

463
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: see that, you're really in trouble by yourself. What he

464
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: does is just make sure he impeased Draymond's next move,

465
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Speaker 1: whatever that may be.

466
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Speaker 2: I've been there before, trust me, this is how you

467
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Speaker 2: do it.

468
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Speaker 1: And you just hold on cause you know, now, since

469
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Speaker 1: I'm just holding on, Draymon's gonna have to do something.

470
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Speaker 1: And is there anyone better on the court to make

471
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Speaker 1: and provoke to do something than Draymond Green, who's already

472
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: running hot, who's already on that border of chaos and control, right,

473
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: so you got it like this already, this is a file,

474
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Speaker 1: This is an infraction.

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Speaker 2: Then Draymond kicks up out of it right, Oh my.

476
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Speaker 1: God, And in that moment, Draymond Green has now been triggered.

477
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Draymond Green has now found what he deems his excuse

478
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: to do what he really wants to do, which is

479
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: to do something that crosses the line right, not borders

480
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: the line, but crosses the line right.

481
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Speaker 2: So Draymond Green is in that place now. Instead of

482
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Speaker 2: Draymond Green.

483
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: Who just can't help himself in these moments, instead of

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green not taking the bait and giving debate, he

485
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: decides to do what Draymond Green always does, which is

486
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: respond Draymond lets everyone else have his remote control. Basically, oh, Draymond,

487
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: I want you mad, you want me mad? And he

488
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Speaker 1: responds just like that. If Draymond was smart in this moment,

489
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Speaker 1: you know what he should have did.

490
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Speaker 2: He should have failed.

491
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Speaker 1: He should have flopped, Susie started some bonus, had his

492
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: hands around his ankle.

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Speaker 2: He should have failed in the.

494
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Speaker 1: Most awkward way, protecting himself, but acting.

495
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Like he hurt.

496
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Speaker 1: You know what they would have done the sabonus. Oh,

497
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: they would have got him because they were like, wait

498
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: a minute, let's look at the replay. Wait a minute.

499
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: You were holding this dude's leg and now he got hurt. Oh, man,

500
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Sabonus Flagrant two, you got to go. But instead he

501
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: took the bait and didn't give it back. So now, Draymond,

502
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: that step is not natural. That is the step of

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Speaker 1: someone who's kicking out and now thinks that the whole

504
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: world will perceive his next step as just something awkward

505
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: because he was holding my ankle. So you aim it

506
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Speaker 1: and you put it right there where you want to.

507
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: And I know this for a fact, Draymonond Green aimed

508
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: that foot on his chest. And then when he did it,

509
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you can tell why he did it, and you could

510
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: tell how he did it. He did it and he

511
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: started to bend down. He bend down because he didn't

512
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 1: want to kill the dude. Your feet are way stronger

513
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: than your arms. You stop somebody, Oh it's a problem.

514
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: You hit somebody, they may be hurt. You stomp them.

515
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: You looking like you came in minister society looking at cousin,

516
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: harold you over there stomping him because Aileena's cousin. You

517
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: got a problem, right, So Draymond Green stomped him, but

518
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: was like, let me take a little of it off.

519
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: So he bends down.

520
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: Then he uses his chest some bonus, his chest as

521
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: a tramper lean to get up out of there, and

522
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: then dues some gymnastics moves with both of his legs

523
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: going sideways, toe touching and gets out of there.

524
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: Playing it off. Nah nah. Nine.

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00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: Referees are highly skilled as well to catch those micro

526
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: movements and replay just tells us it off. So in

527
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: that situation, now Draymond Green thinking he got away with something,

528
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: you ain't got away with, Jack. No matter what your

529
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: post game words say, first thing Draymond Green said about

530
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: the incident was my leg got grabbed. That should let

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00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, even though it's factual, that he thought that

532
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: was a reason that was gonna give him an excuse

533
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: to do everything else. And that's how Draymond plays, like

534
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: his emotional state, which I love, like the dude runs hot,

535
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: but you can't burn yourself. You can run hot, but

536
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: don't burn your team.

537
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: And that's what happens time and time again, especially playoff time.

538
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: You know, Draymond suffers from what they call the gift

539
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: is the curse. And what that is is whatever you

540
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: are amazing at, if you can't navigate that, if you

541
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 2: can't make that maneuver towards your liking, it will be

542
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: your curse.

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00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: So his gift is no matter what a size is,

544
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna play bigger than himself because he's so full

545
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: of all that emotional state and content that is gonna

546
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: just run wild. Right, Draymond is gonna be more passionate

547
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: than you. He's gonna work harder than you. He's just

548
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna do more things than you. And he is highly

549
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: skilled and what he can do. So now Draymond is

550
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: suffering from the gift is to curse.

551
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: What is that? I tell my kids all the time.

552
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: The way I define speed is how fast can you

553
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: go under control?

554
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: There's two types of speed. The conventional way of speed.

555
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: Cat's be thinking aha, but that cat can't turn, that

556
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: cat can't stop, that cat can't maneuver and change direction.

557
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: The speed that I like, the speed.

558
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Speaker 1: That I define is the guy who's under control and

559
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: can manipulate Draymond in this moment, was out of control.

560
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: He was running too hot that he couldn't even stop

561
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: himself and realize Sabonus gave him out. Sabonus gave him

562
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: a perfect opportunity to turn the tables and to get

563
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: Subonus kicked out that gag, but instead he took the

564
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: bait instead of giving it. So you look at all

565
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: these situations and Draymond finds himself in guys have the

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00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: scouting report on him. They know that Draymond Green has

567
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: no breaks, and he has no steering wheel, that car

568
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: just got gas and they can't change lanes. And some

569
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: bonus set him up, and he took the bait. Crazy

570
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: to see it right there with his foot getting caught

571
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: in the cookie jar, because I would think of an

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00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: eleven year veteran like Draymond, it's time to flip the script.

573
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: It's time to change it up, or at least give

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Speaker 1: them something they're not expecting.

575
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: But that's what happened. So now the Kings are up

576
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: too old in this series with no Draymond Green. Next game,

577
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: oh WHOA might be a problem.

578
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: We might have changed the Warriors nickname from Dubbs to

579
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it we'll see my clippers.

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00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: Gotta play the night.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be talking bad about nobody else's team

582
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: and to want to see what my team does not

583
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: to do it for today's episode, will never shut up

584
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: psych We.

585
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 2: Gotta do whily is some I was trying to not

586
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: scream it, sing it, but we hear think like a

587
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: man of action and act like a man of thought.

588
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 2: Think like a man of action, but act like a

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00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: man of thought.

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00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: You gotta think like a man of action because everything

591
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: that you have going on in your brain, that you

592
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: possess that power, those thoughts, the things you're gonna make

593
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: manifest in this world. You gotta think about how they're

594
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna hit the ground, how they're gonna hit the ground running,

595
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: how they're gonna actually turn.

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00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: Into something and materialize. Right, there's not empty thoughts, but

597
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: something that could connect to making it real. But you

598
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: also gotta act like you've been thinking right. And that's

599
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: the craziest part because I know I slip up sometimes

600
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, godly, that was dumb. What are you doing? Right?

601
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: And none of us are perfect, but we gotta go

602
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: into these moments. What a purpose, what a thought? Not

603
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: just some blind actions correct.

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00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: So in these situations you go through in life, I

605
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: know how it goes.

606
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: It's a game plan. It's really like sports.

607
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: Like sports is practice, practice, meetings, meetings, meetings. Right, we're

608
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: thinking of what we want to do. We're thinking like

609
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: men of thought. We're thinking about it.

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00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Then when we get out there, we gotta act like

611
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: we have thought about it.

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00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: We have to act like we practiced it. We got

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00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: to act like there's a meaning behind those movements. Sports

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00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: man microcosm of life. So make sure everything you do

615
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: because sometimes we could get mindless and forget, and that's

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00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: a positive too, but you gotta make sure that you

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Speaker 1: bring it back home.

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Speaker 2: And it usually works when you relate it to sports.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you go through your practices with meaning

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00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: so that your games actually are meaningful.

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Speaker 2: Think like a man of action and act like a

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Speaker 2: man of thought. That's gonna do it.

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