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Speaker 2: got the Lions getting four and a half against the
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got up there. The game that's going to
Speaker 4: come back to haunt you in the NFL. Okay, your
Speaker 4: four options on that are Falcons, Panthers, Broncos, Chargers, Packers,
Speaker 4: Browns or Rams Eagles. Right now, Packers Browns have about
Speaker 4: forty one percent of that vote, which is interesting too
Speaker 4: because that might end up costing the Browns the for
Speaker 4: number one overall pick.
Speaker 2: I don't know there's some competition there for worst team
Speaker 2: in football? Yeah, you know, I mean the Saints are there,
Speaker 2: Titans are there, Brown's are there, Pauli.
Speaker 3: The current draft order is.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you asked. I went to tankathon dot com.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of teams in the mix, a bunch
Speaker 5: of oher and three teams. So based off strength of schedule,
Speaker 5: the draft today would be Jets, Saints, Titans, Dolphins, Giants.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Giants, when do you ease Jackson Dart
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup?
Speaker 3: Can you ease him in?
Speaker 2: You host the Chargers coming up, and then you go
Speaker 2: to New Orleans, then you have the Eagles, and then
Speaker 2: you're at Denver. So there's no easing in unless you
Speaker 2: ease him in at New Orleans. If that's going to
Speaker 2: be the case, and it probably will be because Russ
Speaker 2: had some throws last night where things that make you
Speaker 2: go hmmm. The Bengals situation, the Bengals make a move
Speaker 2: for Kirk Cousins after what we've seen from Jake Browning
Speaker 2: the last two weeks. They've got Denver, they've got Detroit,
Speaker 2: they've got the Packers, They've got the Steelers. So these
Speaker 2: are four teams that they're probably not going maybe they
Speaker 2: win one of those games, But do you make a
Speaker 2: move for Kirk Cousins Because Jake Glazer, I think had
Speaker 2: an update on Joe Burrow that best case scenario, he
Speaker 2: would be back by the end of the regular season,
Speaker 2: best case, but I think you probably have to look
Speaker 2: at the playoffs and they're not going to be in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So that's why if this is just a
Speaker 2: lost season, if Jake Browning continues to throw it to
Speaker 2: the opposition like he did yesterday with Minnesota. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: not surprised Minnesota's defense teed off on him because that's
Speaker 2: what Minnesota and Brian Flores they are known to do,
Speaker 2: and they certainly took it. You know, they didn't have
Speaker 2: to lean on Carson Wentz for anything, just like go
Speaker 2: out there and play the position.
Speaker 3: Don't do anything stupid.
Speaker 2: But but Jake Browning, they went after him and made
Speaker 2: him pay. All right, pull question for hour two seedon.
Speaker 3: What's it going to be?
Speaker 4: I think right now we're looking at win of the weekend.
Speaker 4: You're Indiana Hoosiers, Chargers, Bears, Panthers, others neither neither.
Speaker 3: Well are we looking at the Browns? Is a great win?
Speaker 6: I mean they're not included in it.
Speaker 3: Are they happy they won that game?
Speaker 6: In some respects?
Speaker 2: Yes, But you know the overall front office game plan.
Speaker 3: Do they want to win those games? Marvin?
Speaker 7: The players are happy, oh yeah, yeah yeah, the front
Speaker 7: office is furious.
Speaker 8: We're supposed to get Arch and Nick Saban Arch.
Speaker 3: Yeah and Nick Saban. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Arch had a really good game against sam Houston State. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'll quiet his critics. That's right, Yeah, that's right. He
Speaker 2: scores a four yard touchdown run and you would have thought,
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen backup dancers with Jalo who have
Speaker 2: less enthusiasm than he did.
Speaker 3: He was he was going crazy.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, you just scored on Sam Houston State,
Speaker 2: not Ohio State. And it's staring down the defensive back
Speaker 2: and running along the sidelines. I think after the game
Speaker 2: he did say his mom was going to be upset
Speaker 2: with him. Now, I don't know how that's not taunting.
Speaker 2: They called it swag. I go, that's not swag. That's taunting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, well it's that taunting when your last name is
Speaker 4: Manning and you play for Texas. For sure, those are
Speaker 4: two a little just wink at that. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: You know what, don't you do? Horns down?
Speaker 4: That's fifteen uhy?
Speaker 6: I hate that.
Speaker 4: I feel like though if there was a fella who
Speaker 4: kind of needed a moment this, maybe let some stress out.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was arch Manning in that in that instant,
Speaker 4: I understand it, but it's still Sam Houston.
Speaker 9: It is.
Speaker 6: It's lame.
Speaker 4: I get it, but he has been under fire a
Speaker 4: little bit, and I bet that felt pretty good.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, just to repeat with seat and said, man,
Speaker 7: you run somebody over and it doesn't matter who it is.
Speaker 7: You get in the end zone. You're pumped up, no
Speaker 7: matter who you're playing against. You're not looking at the
Speaker 7: uniform you're looking at you got into the end zone. Hey,
Speaker 7: big run. I don't agree with it. They called it swag.
Speaker 7: I was like, that's not that's not gold hunting. Yes, ton, because.
Speaker 10: That's how you gonna take that critics. Look what I
Speaker 10: did dot dot dot against sam Houston State. You have
Speaker 10: to got to put in the end of that sense.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paulie, the entire state of sam Houston is upset.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, damn it.
Speaker 5: Uh Texas next week at Florida, then they host Oklahoma
Speaker 5: h October eleventh.
Speaker 2: Okay, still time to right the ship. Okay, Okay, So
Speaker 2: we got football coming up tonight. We talked about the Eagles,
Speaker 2: the Rams. That felt like that was one and a
Speaker 2: half Losses Chargers over the Broncos, quietly winning three consecutive
Speaker 2: divisional games. The Packers, you know, that's one of those
Speaker 2: where you keep a team in it and then you
Speaker 2: pay the price. That's all that was. You got to
Speaker 2: put them away and a bad throw by Jordan Love
Speaker 2: and then you know, the Browns were like, all right,
Speaker 2: if you're not gonna win it, then we'll win it.
Speaker 3: Here we go. Bucks over the Jets.
Speaker 2: Even so, Paulie sends a text, so they block a kick,
Speaker 2: they scored touchdown, and all of a sudden, the Jets
Speaker 2: are going to win this game. And then Paulie goes,
Speaker 2: you know, I love Baker in the Bucks, but I'm
Speaker 2: rooting for the Jets. And then I knew as soon
Speaker 2: as he sent it that they were going to lose.
Speaker 2: It's like, I just Baker's gonna go down the field,
Speaker 2: They're gonna kick it, and then they're gonna win the game.
Speaker 2: Exactly what happened the Titans. That is not a pretty picture. Now,
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect from them, but I
Speaker 2: expect a little more than that. The Falcons as well,
Speaker 2: that was shocking that you lose, and you lose thirty
Speaker 2: to nothing to the Panthers.
Speaker 3: It's almost impossible to get shut out. I mean it's
Speaker 3: field goals are so easy. But I'm thinking you didn't score, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7: Especially with that team. They're not like the Titans. The
Speaker 7: Titans are bad and born. I got Bijeon, Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 7: Drake London. I can't get close to kick.
Speaker 10: A field goal, yes, Ud and the Falcons were one
Speaker 10: of those teams that people were kind of falling in
Speaker 10: love with in the preseason, like Denver, Atlanta Tos.
Speaker 8: Certain teams are like watch out for these guys. This year, I.
Speaker 2: Watch a lot of the Bears and the Cowboys, and
Speaker 2: I kept thinking, Okay, this guy got sacked sixty eight
Speaker 2: times last year and they're not even putting a hand
Speaker 2: on him. They didn't sack Caleb Williams once, and then
Speaker 2: you pay those defensive backs Bland and Digs and every
Speaker 2: time Caleb wanted to throw deep, they were able to
Speaker 2: throw deep. They hit him once, but they didn't have
Speaker 2: any sacks. And I mean, I expect the Bears to
Speaker 2: be aggressive on offense, good on offense. I didn't think
Speaker 2: that their defense would be that bad because Dallas did. Dallas,
Speaker 2: you know, was able to do what they wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Dak just had a couple of interceptions there. But I
Speaker 2: still came away from that game going I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I have no idea if the Bears are a six
Speaker 2: win team or a nine win team. Same with Dallas,
Speaker 2: I have no idea when you're watching them, and they
Speaker 2: could have used a pass rusher in that game.
Speaker 3: Yes, it does.
Speaker 5: Feel like Dallas has to score thirty five a game
Speaker 5: to be in any game and can't afford even you know,
Speaker 5: running ceedee Lamb. It's a dangerous play as but you
Speaker 5: lose him in the first first quarter, it's really over
Speaker 5: because you need a shootout.
Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here, Best and Words
Speaker 2: to the weekend. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk has
Speaker 2: a new book out. His latest novel, Big Sheield. It's
Speaker 2: a tale of gambling, the mob, and a pro football
Speaker 2: league that Mike says is definitely definitely not the NFL
Speaker 2: unless you want it to be. We'll have Mike joining
Speaker 2: us coming up. Dan and Ohio leads us off second hour,
Speaker 2: Best and Worst of the Weekend.
Speaker 11: Dan Hey just here to represent Qualcom.
Speaker 12: I'm kidding.
Speaker 11: Two best of the weekend. Just got my five month
Speaker 11: chip for sobriety, inspired partly by Seaton. And the second
Speaker 11: best was the first hour window or the one o'clock
Speaker 11: window of the games. That was just phenomenal. Worst of
Speaker 11: the weekend, well at least my Steelers one, but it
Speaker 11: took five turnovers to get that done.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 11: Also, those Browns uniforms were just correndous.
Speaker 2: I agree because I love the original Cleveland Browns uniforms.
Speaker 2: They don't have to do anything different fancy. But Seaton
Speaker 2: was an outlier. He's he was all in on the
Speaker 2: Brown's uniforms there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they look good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like them.
Speaker 2: I thought I was watching the Falcons when I first
Speaker 2: looked at them, and they're kind of and they looked dark,
Speaker 2: they almost look black. And then you had the orange
Speaker 2: uniform jerseys.
Speaker 4: Yes, seton that is one of those is it is
Speaker 4: it dark brown or is it black kind of things?
Speaker 6: To me, it looks it looks brown. Muh, And I
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 2: But they have great uniforms they don't need. Cleveland Brown's
Speaker 2: uniform is sort of like Penn State. You know, some
Speaker 2: of these other places where you don't have to do anything,
Speaker 2: you don't have to change anything.
Speaker 8: There.
Speaker 2: Tampa couldn't lose yesterday with those uniforms like they you
Speaker 2: look too good, you can't lose.
Speaker 3: I would wear that to the met ball and the
Speaker 3: gala like that.
Speaker 2: I would if I was Baker Mayfield and they were
Speaker 2: gonna invite me, I'd just wear my uniform and just say, yeah,
Speaker 2: how about this?
Speaker 3: Who were you wearing?
Speaker 8: Creamsicle?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Gus in La, Hi, Gus, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Good morning, mister Patricks. Hope you and the boys had
Speaker 13: a great weekend. Hey man, what a weekend for sports.
Speaker 13: I'm telling that. I mean, like just like you know,
Speaker 13: my previous guy just said that one o'clock window was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Great, loved it my.
Speaker 13: Steelers, hey man, wins to winning. The offense forgot to
Speaker 13: get on the bus. The defense brought the game. Hey,
Speaker 13: I'll take a win to win. At least. I'm out
Speaker 13: a ram Center Pakistan today, so I could go with
Speaker 13: the best of the weekend be in the NFL and
Speaker 13: my Trojan's winning. But let's go back to Friday night.
Speaker 13: Clayton Edward kershot with the curtain call you know, I
Speaker 13: find it me personally to be very privileged whenever you're
Speaker 13: able to be in the window of a generational talent,
Speaker 13: to see the beginning, the inception of it, and all
Speaker 13: the way to the end. And that's what I've been
Speaker 13: able to watch with Clayton Kersh all the entire time
Speaker 13: and fraid to finally come to an end on Friday
Speaker 13: night with something to be behold of. Loved it. It
Speaker 13: was great. Not a dry eye in the house. Awesome.
Speaker 13: I'm a lucky at Dodger fanis morning. You boys have a.
Speaker 3: Great week, all right, Gus, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fortunate that having been in this business for
Speaker 2: forty years that you see somebody starting their career and
Speaker 2: that could be in college, and then I've been around
Speaker 2: for all of these careers start to finish and very lucky.
Speaker 2: And Clayton Kershaw go out with a strikeout regular season
Speaker 2: at home. Then he brought his kids out. They dug
Speaker 2: up the pitchers mound and took the rubber with them.
Speaker 2: They had like an axe out there, pick axe out there,
Speaker 2: hammered away and taking that out of there.
Speaker 3: Let's see Keith and Chico, welcome back.
Speaker 14: Keith, Hey, good morning, guys, I got a couple of
Speaker 14: bests of the weekend and the worst. The Indiana Hoosiers
Speaker 14: football team putting up six on a ranked Illinois team
Speaker 14: was pretty impressive, and the other being.
Speaker 15: Texas Tech football getting their win over Utah. Seeing the
Speaker 15: Red Raiders being relevant again brings me back to the
Speaker 15: Mike Leach days over at Texas Tech. Worst of the
Speaker 15: weekend what happened to the Falcons and Michael Pennix? A
Speaker 15: shutout against the Panthers is not a good look for them.
Speaker 14: Dan have a great day, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got benched. But I wonder if you're the Falcons,
Speaker 2: you got to be all in with Michael Pennix. But
Speaker 2: if the Bengals call, would you trade him? And it
Speaker 2: probably all asked Mike Florio about that because there's you know,
Speaker 2: there's money involved in that and who's going to pick
Speaker 2: up what part of that salary? There?
Speaker 3: Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 16: Heydp, thanks for taking my call? Best of the two
Speaker 16: best of the weekend. Best was going viral on the
Speaker 16: DP Show Friday with my Name's Question? And another best
Speaker 16: of the weekend. Since I had a grandfather who loved
Speaker 16: what he hates. Anytime Clemson stumbles and looks like cheeks,
Speaker 16: then yeah, that is something I'm all on board with.
Speaker 16: And Lewis Ritick was talking about how Bill Belichick and
Speaker 16: Dion you know, are both using the portal and it's
Speaker 16: not working to their favor. But I would argue that
Speaker 16: Clemson is where those two programs are trying to get
Speaker 16: to and because of that, Clemson should be able to
Speaker 16: use the portal to its advantage based off of their
Speaker 16: national championship credit, pedigree and the resources that they have.
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you, Zach. You know this isn't
Speaker 2: an overhaul with Clemson. Clemson should be able to pick
Speaker 2: and choose. Now, maybe you get seven to ten players,
Speaker 2: but make sure you don't miss on those guys. North
Speaker 2: Carolina they got seventy players. Dion had a similar turnover there.
Speaker 2: That's really hard to say. All right, now, let's get
Speaker 2: together limited practice time and go out there and be
Speaker 2: good right away. Clemson's in a different position. There are
Speaker 2: certain teams Alabama, you know, it's just different. You pick
Speaker 2: and choose who you want they want to come play
Speaker 2: for you. You have to decide if you want them
Speaker 2: to play for you, this isn't an overhaul, but this
Speaker 2: is making sure. But Lewis Ridick, who did the game,
Speaker 2: said this was really about the team not being prepared
Speaker 2: to play like that's on the coach. Syracuse was ready
Speaker 2: to play Clemson. According to Lewis Ritick, who was there
Speaker 2: on the call. He said, they just didn't seem like
Speaker 2: they were ready to play. And this following a press
Speaker 2: conference where you had Dabosweeney calling out the media for,
Speaker 2: you know, questioning his resume. I thought that they were
Speaker 2: going to come out and it was going to be
Speaker 2: one of those, you know, fifty to seventeen type games,
Speaker 2: and it didn't go well, didn't go as scripted. Even
Speaker 2: North Carolina I'm watching that. Ah man, it's not a
Speaker 2: good situation. Who's North Carolina got next? They got Florida
Speaker 2: State next.
Speaker 3: They got a tough.
Speaker 2: Game I think coming up next? Oh, Clemson. Doesn't North
Speaker 2: Carolina play Clemson?
Speaker 3: I think that's do we have that? Yeah? Two weeks?
Speaker 2: All two weeks? Oh great, so you get to simmer
Speaker 2: with embarrassment. Are both teams off for two weeks?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, Belichick's girlfriend look great with her
Speaker 2: knee high boots on on the sidelines there in a
Speaker 2: mini skirt. In a million years, if you say, hey, Belichick,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be on the sidelines and his girlfriend's going
Speaker 2: to be there in a miniskirt and knee high boots.
Speaker 2: I go, uh and what alternate universe? Yes, Todd, it's
Speaker 2: in Chapel Hill at.
Speaker 10: Least October fourth, So maybe a little home field advantage
Speaker 10: or does that never really exist?
Speaker 2: But that could be even worse if you get, you know,
Speaker 2: rough up at home. All right, let me take a break.
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Speaker 2: DP show Best and Worst of the weekend Mike Florio
Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk Live co host, and you'll find him
Speaker 2: on Football Night in America. His latest novel once again.
Speaker 2: It's a novel called Big Shield. It's a tale of gambling,
Speaker 2: the mob, and pro football league that is definitely not
Speaker 2: the NFL. The e book is available on Amazon for
Speaker 2: only ninety nine cents. Have you heard from the NFL
Speaker 2: at all about this book that's not supposed to be
Speaker 2: based on the NFL?
Speaker 18: Not yet?
Speaker 3: Okay, not yet?
Speaker 18: And I think their approach will be just ignore it
Speaker 18: and hope it goes away, and let's not make this
Speaker 18: into a thing. As you were doing the read though,
Speaker 18: it struck me because we don't have an audio book yet,
Speaker 18: and I think that people would expect me to do
Speaker 18: it despite the very annoying voice that I possessed. Would
Speaker 18: you like it? Could we work something out? Would you
Speaker 18: like to do the audio book?
Speaker 3: I think that would How many pages?
Speaker 18: It's four hundred people? No, no, no, how about are
Speaker 18: you going to do a chapter?
Speaker 3: How about I do a chapter?
Speaker 18: We do a chapter, and we make that the sample
Speaker 18: and then we do the bait and switch, so they
Speaker 18: think it's your voice and then when they get it,
Speaker 18: they're like, oh, no, it's him.
Speaker 2: I've done it before, and it's a lot of work.
Speaker 2: I had to do it in segments where I'd come
Speaker 2: in for a day and do three hours, and then
Speaker 2: wait five days and come in and do it, you know,
Speaker 2: because it really it's tough on your voice to be
Speaker 2: able to do that.
Speaker 18: My agent's been negotiating deals for me to do the
Speaker 18: audio version of my three prior novels, and this went in.
Speaker 18: In theory it sounds good, but no, yeah, in practice,
Speaker 18: it's probably going to be an all day thing, frustrating, annoying.
Speaker 18: You got to get it just right. Oh I got
Speaker 18: a word wrong. I go back and do that again.
Speaker 18: So yeah, Fritzie, Well, the offers open if you want
Speaker 18: to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fritzie just said that he volunteered. Okay, yet he'd
Speaker 2: be happy to do that when.
Speaker 8: We come back. Chapter three.
Speaker 18: This is the.
Speaker 8: Sealed on Amazon.
Speaker 2: I little Kevin Harland there, all right. You wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to keep up that energy.
Speaker 8: Definitely not.
Speaker 2: No, okay, you talk about gambling and I'm watching the
Speaker 2: Eagles Rams game.
Speaker 18: I know exactly where you're going, Jordan Davis. And here's
Speaker 18: the reality. This is the direct result of the NFL
Speaker 18: going from hating and shunning anything to do with gambling
Speaker 18: to jumping right in bed and loading the pockets. They're
Speaker 18: the guy in the you know the old game show
Speaker 18: where you go into the booth where the money's flying everywhere.
Speaker 18: They're just grabbing as many dollars as they can while
Speaker 18: it's there. But yeah, we're all aware now of the
Speaker 18: points spread, We're all aware of the ramifications and how
Speaker 18: many millions of dollars changed hands because Jordan Davis decided
Speaker 18: to do not the smart thing. The smart thing. The
Speaker 18: game's over, just fall down. You got to win because
Speaker 18: in theory, somebody comes up from behind. Does the don
Speaker 18: beebe to leon, Let the ball goes out, the rams
Speaker 18: take the other way. The smart thing to do is
Speaker 18: go down. He runs it in for a touchdown, the
Speaker 18: Eagles cover. Oh, and it was perfectly legitimate. But when
Speaker 18: you open Pandora's box, this is the kind of stuff
Speaker 18: that flies out and people are aware of this. So
Speaker 18: it's just part of the stuff the NFL needs to
Speaker 18: be concerned about. And sometimes I wonder Dan, Are they
Speaker 18: as concerned as they should be?
Speaker 2: What change though with Roger Goodell? Because everybody was against
Speaker 2: gambling and then all of a sudden something changed.
Speaker 18: Well, they were holding the rope as tightly as they
Speaker 18: could against gambling when difference states were trying to challenge
Speaker 18: the federal law from nineteen ninety two that basically said
Speaker 18: no states other than the states that currently have it
Speaker 18: Nevada can have sports wagering, and that became different levels
Speaker 18: and types of legal challenges until New Jersey finally won.
Speaker 18: But back in the days when the NFL was actively
Speaker 18: fighting it, that's when the commissioner would say, for example,
Speaker 18: when I'm paraphrasing, but if legalized gambling is widespread, normal
Speaker 18: incidents of the game will be suspected to have been
Speaker 18: influenced by other things, like, you know, whether it's a
Speaker 18: bad call or a guy not going down, when basic
Speaker 18: football expectations would be you've won the game, go down.
Speaker 18: But the normal incidents of the game become fodder for
Speaker 18: the fixes in and once they recognized, I believe how
Speaker 18: much money could be made. And the one thing that
Speaker 18: never gets talked about is the fact that owners are
Speaker 18: allowed to separately own up to five percent of a
Speaker 18: company that operates a sports book. And they won't tell
Speaker 18: you who owns what, but they're allowed to be the
Speaker 18: house too. They don't just have the sponsorships with all
Speaker 18: the major sports books. The owners individually can own up
Speaker 18: to five percent of companies that operate sports books. That's
Speaker 18: where the money is. So it's always followed the money.
Speaker 18: And I'm not I'm a capitalist. I'm not saying it's wrong,
Speaker 18: but that's what happened. They realized, you know what, we've
Speaker 18: hated this, we fought against it. If it's going to
Speaker 18: be inevitable, let's turn it into a revenue stream. And
Speaker 18: they've turned it into a massive revenue stream.
Speaker 2: I hear and I read conflicting reports on the Toushbush.
Speaker 2: Is it going to survive? Like it'll survive this season,
Speaker 2: but then next season? And I thought when Dean Blandino
Speaker 2: live during a broadcast said I give up. I don't
Speaker 2: know how to officiate this play, and I thought, that's
Speaker 2: the out for the NFL because the safety numbers aren't there.
Speaker 2: This is about we can't call this. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you can't call somebody when the guards move on
Speaker 2: the Eagles offensive line that's easy to call, spotting the
Speaker 2: football is still a challenge on that play.
Speaker 3: Is it back next year?
Speaker 18: I think right now the wind is blowing in the
Speaker 18: direction that it won't be and the moment, I believe
Speaker 18: based on everything I've seen, everything I've heard, and just
Speaker 18: my own kind of like what's really going on here
Speaker 18: in the NFC Championship when Frankie Louvou of the Commanders
Speaker 18: repeatedly jumped offside to the point where the referee threatened
Speaker 18: the Eagles with what would are the Commanders? Excuse me?
Speaker 18: With what would be called a palpably unfair act, and
Speaker 18: we're just going to give the Eagles the touchdown. That's
Speaker 18: never happened, for it's in the rule book, but it's
Speaker 18: never happened. I think the commissioner watching that game, and
Speaker 18: I'm assuming it was him, because he's got the power
Speaker 18: to make these dominoes fall if he wants. I think
Speaker 18: he saw that and he said, we can't have this.
Speaker 18: We just can't have this. So it was that week
Speaker 18: Mike Pereira was appearing somewhere and said that that moment
Speaker 18: could be basically the death noell of the tush push.
Speaker 18: It's like, wait, a minute, Wait a minute, the effort
Speaker 18: to stop it, because the to stop it goes to
Speaker 18: those extremes. They're just going to get rid of the play.
Speaker 18: But then we saw what happened, and it's been one
Speaker 18: straw man after another. Oh, it's a safety risk. The
Speaker 18: data doesn't back it up. Well, it doesn't look like football.
Speaker 18: Well what the hell does that mean? And now Dan,
Speaker 18: I think you've hit on it. It's going to be
Speaker 18: we just can't officiate it. We just can't officiate it.
Speaker 18: And I was told yesterday, Look, it's an extremely difficult
Speaker 18: played to officiate. And this is what the membership voted for.
Speaker 18: And I think that's the attitude of the league office.
Speaker 18: I think the league office generally like to get rid
Speaker 18: of it. They were two votes short, sixty eight percent
Speaker 18: of the team's voted to get rid of it, to
Speaker 18: vote short to get the seventy five percent. And I
Speaker 18: think once the season ends there's going to be some
Speaker 18: arm twisting to get from twenty two to ten to
Speaker 18: twenty four to eight and get rid of it.
Speaker 3: But the Eagles are still going to be successful.
Speaker 18: It's still going to run a quarterback sneak that you
Speaker 18: can't stop. And the guards are still going to leave early.
Speaker 18: But there's just something about that play being the symbol
Speaker 18: and the thing. And you're right, it's not going to
Speaker 18: change the effectiveness of having a quarterback who can squad
Speaker 18: five hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: And I think that their success rate prior to this
Speaker 2: rule or using the tush push was very similar to
Speaker 2: what their success rate is with it. And it's because
Speaker 2: you have a quarterback that is unlike any other quarterback.
Speaker 2: In Jalen Hurts, we're talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football
Speaker 2: Talk Live, co host contributor to Football Night in America.
Speaker 2: The latest novel, Big Shield, once again gambling mob pro
Speaker 2: Football and it's not about the NFL.
Speaker 18: Definitely not.
Speaker 2: Ebook available Amazon for ninety nine cents.
Speaker 18: I'm trying to get you, get trying to get you
Speaker 18: sued with me. How about that? Oh no, I'll represent
Speaker 18: us all for free.
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you against the NFL.
Speaker 18: Yeah, that'd be a book on its own. So, I mean,
Speaker 18: I saw the Billy Joel documentary, which was just awesome.
Speaker 18: And when the Catholic Church tried to push back against
Speaker 18: only the good Die Young, the end result was him
Speaker 18: sending a letter to the archdiocese saying Can you please
Speaker 18: do that for all my songs?
Speaker 2: He got a whole lot of publicity there. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out if three weeks is long enough three
Speaker 2: games to figure out a team, figure out who these
Speaker 2: teams are? Is there how many teams do you not
Speaker 2: have a handle on.
Speaker 18: I think it's difficult to figure out all of them
Speaker 18: because the one thing that we know will happen, there
Speaker 18: will be injuries. And how do you deal with the injury.
Speaker 18: Is the next man up going to be good enough
Speaker 18: to keep things rolling? Can you weather the storm until
Speaker 18: the key player comes back? And we know that happens
Speaker 18: every year. But I think we kind of have an idea.
Speaker 18: We've already had an idea. The eight teams that legitimately
Speaker 18: have a chance. Do they fall off due to injury?
Speaker 18: The Bengals have I don't know that they were in
Speaker 18: the eight, maybe they were in the ten or the twelve.
Speaker 18: But we know the good teams, we know the bad teams.
Speaker 18: It's in between. Is there a team that is just
Speaker 18: going to catch lightning in a bottle? Is something going
Speaker 18: to happen? Are they going to get better on the fly?
Speaker 18: Teams always change from week one to week eighteen it's
Speaker 18: such a long season. They're gonna get better, they're gonna
Speaker 18: get worse, and it could be that one of these
Speaker 18: teams in the middle of the pack. And I think
Speaker 18: back to the Patriots the year they won their first
Speaker 18: Super Bowl. They were like five and five, ten games in.
Speaker 18: It can break one way or the other. We see
Speaker 18: that happen. But right now we know the best, we
Speaker 18: know the worst, and then there's this cluster of we
Speaker 18: don't know and we'll find out.
Speaker 2: I thought about this yesterday watching games and what's going
Speaker 2: on with the Clippers with Kawhi Leonard and Steve Balmer.
Speaker 2: What would prevent owners from doing side deals and circumventing
Speaker 2: the salary cap in any sport.
Speaker 18: I think if you're smart, you can get away with it.
Speaker 18: You can always get away with finding a way to
Speaker 18: funnel money to somebody. After Pablo Toure reported on what
Speaker 18: was going on with the Clippers, allegedly someone reach asked me.
Speaker 18: He said, you know what, there was a team twenty
Speaker 18: years ago that had a separate in house video production
Speaker 18: company and they would use that to pay players who
Speaker 18: weren't on the team to keep them from going to
Speaker 18: play for other teams and it was a great little
Speaker 18: way to have a side roster that you's stashed and
Speaker 18: everybody was properly compensated, so they weren't looking for other jobs.
Speaker 18: But you had these extra guys and how many it was,
Speaker 18: But that's what they did, and the sense I got
Speaker 18: is that they weren't the only team. Now I don't
Speaker 18: believe that's currently happening still, but how hard would it wait?
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you think that would be happening in any
Speaker 2: sport if you're.
Speaker 18: Smart and if you're discreet, and if you can trust
Speaker 18: the people that you're giving the money to. I think
Speaker 18: that's the key, though, because it's one thing for a
Speaker 18: guy to keep his mouth shut while he's being paid
Speaker 18: by you. But I'd think if this was something widespread
Speaker 18: over the past thirty years of the salary cap, if
Speaker 18: there was something like that, I'd like to think someone
Speaker 18: would have spilled the beans.
Speaker 8: By now.
Speaker 18: Somebody would be pissed off about how it all ended.
Speaker 18: I didn't get that last check, or you owe me
Speaker 18: a little bit more, or you know, guy just is
Speaker 18: out one night and he has a couple of pops
Speaker 18: and he decides to say something to a reporter. I'm
Speaker 18: surprised we haven't heard more about it because I think
Speaker 18: it's NICI to assume. And Pablo had a great take
Speaker 18: last week about Steve Balmer. You know, these really rich
Speaker 18: guys can buy anything and everything they want except that championship,
Speaker 18: and it's got to drive them crazy. So what do
Speaker 18: they have? They have money. Let's find a way to
Speaker 18: throw more of the money at this thing that we
Speaker 18: can't buy.
Speaker 2: Tom Brady did the Bears game yesterday with the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: and then his Raiders are going to be playing the
Speaker 2: Bears coming up. The conflict of interest is sort of
Speaker 2: lingering there and probably going to heat up a little
Speaker 2: bit more next week. How do you see this end
Speaker 2: or does it end in a different way it was.
Speaker 18: It was hiding in plain sight for all of us
Speaker 18: to see for over a year. But it just shows
Speaker 18: you the power of actually seeing something because the moment
Speaker 18: we saw the incredible shrinking Tom Brady because as soon
Speaker 18: as he realized he was on screen, he hit that
Speaker 18: button and down that seat went because he knew he
Speaker 18: knew this isn't going to end well. Because that woke
Speaker 18: everyone up to what we already should have known existed.
Speaker 18: You can't reconcile his two jobs. I think what's gonna
Speaker 18: happen because the NFL doesn't want to admit we never
Speaker 18: should have allowed him to pick both lanes. We should
Speaker 18: have told him when we did the vote last October
Speaker 18: on allowing him into the club, you got to pick
Speaker 18: one or the other. You can't do both. I think
Speaker 18: what will happen. It'll be like the Tush push. If
Speaker 18: the Raiders ever become really, really good, that's when there's
Speaker 18: gonna be this ground swell. This can't continue. Tom Brady
Speaker 18: can't continue to be at these games and gather this information.
Speaker 18: Dan the one point that gets lost in all this,
Speaker 18: because there's been a lot of talk about, well, how
Speaker 18: much do you really get from a production meeting? The
Speaker 18: real value is being on the field before the game,
Speaker 18: when you can hobknob, when people are gonna come, they
Speaker 18: want to talk to you, They're gonna come tell you
Speaker 18: things they shouldn't tell you. You can see what a
Speaker 18: player looks like. He looks different on TV than he
Speaker 18: looks on the field. And so it's not just getting
Speaker 18: ready to face the Bears. It's which free agents from
Speaker 18: this team, what I maybe like to sign, Which assistant
Speaker 18: coaches are the ones who are really really the ones.
Speaker 18: You know, the media has an idea of who the
Speaker 18: ones who are up and coming should be, But I'm
Speaker 18: in a position to find out who's really making this
Speaker 18: team go. He's in an incredible situation that no other
Speaker 18: owner is in to gather information that can be used.
Speaker 18: And Antonio Pierce, the former coach of the Raiders, he
Speaker 18: said it all last week. He told Adam Shine, I
Speaker 18: know that it's useful because he gave me that information
Speaker 18: last year.
Speaker 3: How does Kirk Cousins get traded, Well.
Speaker 18: There's going to have to be a serious season ending
Speaker 18: injury for a team that doesn't want to go next
Speaker 18: man up, and the Bengals for now are next man up.
Speaker 18: And look, the Bengals aren't going to want to give
Speaker 18: up draft picks because those are cheap young players. They're
Speaker 18: not going to want to pay Kirk Cousins. And the
Speaker 18: Falcons are going to want whoever takes on Kirk Cousins
Speaker 18: to pick up a major chunk of his twenty seven
Speaker 18: and a half million dollar guaranteed salary this year. But
Speaker 18: it's going to have to line up just right, and
Speaker 18: I don't know that it will. I think the one
Speaker 18: place could be Minnesota because that's the easiest place to
Speaker 18: pop him back in if, for example, JJ McCarthy back
Speaker 18: and gets injured again and it's a longer term injury
Speaker 18: and they feel like they can salvage the season and
Speaker 18: they don't want to ride with Carson Wentz, who who
Speaker 18: looked okay yesterday. He wasn't horrible. He didn't throw a
Speaker 18: left handed interception in his own end zone. So that's progress.
Speaker 18: So it's gonna be something where it's gotta fall just right.
Speaker 18: And it could be that the Falcons decide at some
Speaker 18: point this year that we're not going to trade him
Speaker 18: because we're gonna put Michael Pennix on the bench like
Speaker 18: the Panthers did last year with Bryce Young and let
Speaker 18: him take a step back and regroup because yesterday was
Speaker 18: rough for Penis and the Falcons.
Speaker 3: Your favorite part of the book is what well.
Speaker 18: The book is told from the perspective of the three
Speaker 18: main characters, and the first draft of the book it
Speaker 18: unfolded in a somewhat different way with a different main character.
Speaker 18: I decided it's a long story, so keep it simple.
Speaker 18: That part got carved out and I put a new
Speaker 18: part in with a new main character who's like the
Speaker 18: mob figure, who's the guy who gathers the professional athletes,
Speaker 18: because it's not just a professional football player in the
Speaker 18: league that isn't the NFL. It's a professional basketball player
Speaker 18: in the league that isn't the NBA, and a professional
Speaker 18: baseball player in the league that isn't the MLB. But
Speaker 18: he's the he's the guy that makes this thing go.
Speaker 18: And he was the most fun to write, the most
Speaker 18: fun to revise and edit, because when you get a
Speaker 18: book that you got to read it twenty times, it's like,
Speaker 18: I really don't want to read this again, But every
Speaker 18: time I'd read Johnny Motts is the name of the character.
Speaker 18: Any Johnny Mott's chapter was just fun because he's he's
Speaker 18: he's malicious, but he's stupid, but he's smart, and he's
Speaker 18: also got a conscience, and it's this complex character that
Speaker 18: is just a lot of fun because he thinks like
Speaker 18: a mobster, he talks like a mobster, and that's just
Speaker 18: always fun to read and and just kind of envision
Speaker 18: what that guy's like.
Speaker 3: Did you ever have any dealings with the mob when
Speaker 3: you were gambling?
Speaker 18: I never gambled. I never gambled. My dad was a
Speaker 18: bookie though Okay, my dad was a bookie and he
Speaker 18: was connected to the crew in the town where I
Speaker 18: grew up in Wheeling, West Virginia, and the first two
Speaker 18: novels I did are based on inspired by I don't
Speaker 18: want to say based on I want to say inspired
Speaker 18: by I don't think any of them are left but
Speaker 18: just in case. But he was a bookie connected to
Speaker 18: that crew, and so I knew a lot of the
Speaker 18: people who when I grew up and was able to
Speaker 18: like google names and see what they had done or
Speaker 18: allegedly had done, it was like, oh, almost said a
Speaker 18: word I shouldn't say, but it was like, man, like,
Speaker 18: you know, those are some bad dudes. And my dad
Speaker 18: was on the periphery of it because he was just basically,
Speaker 18: he was a compulsive gambler who realized it's better to
Speaker 18: be the house, so he became a bookie. But he
Speaker 18: was just the gambling side of it. And I'm not
Speaker 18: condoning it or excusing it. That was the way provided
Speaker 18: for his family. I was a kid. There was nothing
Speaker 18: I could do about it, and my mom did a
Speaker 18: great job of keeping those worlds separate, but there was
Speaker 18: enough overlap where Yeah, I picked up a lot how
Speaker 18: they talk, how they act, just the vibe that they have.
Speaker 18: That I was around a lot of guys like that,
Speaker 18: and I was oblivious to the fact that, you know,
Speaker 18: they they were capable of doing some pretty bad stuff.
Speaker 3: The book is called Big Shield.
Speaker 2: It's the tale of gambling the mob in a pro
Speaker 2: football league that is not the NFL. Once again, it
Speaker 2: is not. The book available on Amazon for only ninety
Speaker 2: nine cents.
Speaker 18: Do you read books? No, you have all these books
Speaker 18: and you don't read them. It's a library here, by
Speaker 18: the way, I haven't been to this location. Congratulations, because
Speaker 18: this is incredible. The last place was great, but this
Speaker 18: is like the last place on steroids. I mean it's huge,
Speaker 18: and it's open, and you got so much stuff and
Speaker 18: it's all. You could wander around here for like three
Speaker 18: hours and not see everything. It really is incredible.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike. Great to see you. Great to see you,
Speaker 3: Mike Floria.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we will give you our best
Speaker 2: and worst of the weekend after this.
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Speaker 2: Let's go around the horn and Todd I'll start with
Speaker 2: you best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 10: Best of the weekend in Houston on Saday, the Big
Speaker 10: Dump Cowroly goes deep against the ms AL West rival Astros.
Speaker 10: His fifty seventh of the year passes Ken Griffey Junior
Speaker 10: for the most single season home runs ever by a
Speaker 10: Seattle Mariner.
Speaker 8: Then he goes ahead and hits his fifty eighth yesterday.
Speaker 10: EMS lead the division now by three games, won fourteen
Speaker 10: of the last fifteen games. Worst also on Saturday, not
Speaker 10: taking anything away from QS, but Clemson losing at home
Speaker 10: in Death Valley.
Speaker 8: They're one in three for the first time under Dabbo Seaton.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go double best this weekend. My super bestess
Speaker 4: of the weekend. Isaiah Rodgers an absolute defensive explosion for
Speaker 4: the Vikings. He returned an interception for eighty seven yards
Speaker 4: in a touchdown, then added another sixty six yard fumble
Speaker 4: return for another and had and caused another two fumbles.
Speaker 4: That's he's the first player I mean, it's a perfect
Speaker 4: defensive performance. I think as you could get as a
Speaker 4: fantasy player. I don't think you could be rated any higher.
Speaker 4: He's the first player to ever do that in a
Speaker 4: single game, of Vikings being the Bengals forty eight ten.
Speaker 4: My other best of the weekend Syracuse on the road
Speaker 4: taking down Clemson thirty five twenty one.
Speaker 6: Davian Kerr with the pick to seal the deal.
Speaker 4: I like that all of a sudden, Almost every week
Speaker 4: now we're talking about Syracuse something happening with that team.
Speaker 6: It's kind of fun. See.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to run their sprints after they beat you.
Speaker 2: Kon Yeah, Marvin beston Worst to the weekend.
Speaker 7: Best of the weekend, also from the Vikings, Jordan Mason.
Speaker 7: That guy always shows up when it's time to sixteen
Speaker 7: carries one hundred and sixteen yards, two touchdowns. Worse of
Speaker 7: the weekend the Tigers. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 7: if they lost sixth straight, including Guineas sweat by the
Speaker 7: Braves this past weekend.
Speaker 5: Pauli bestin worst coming off the bench for Texas Tech
Speaker 5: Will Hammond thirteen of sixteen, two touchdowns to spark their
Speaker 5: offense in a thirty four to ten win over.
Speaker 6: The utah U.
Speaker 5: It's that's huge for Texas Tech and they're four to
Speaker 5: zero and then even better, Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback of
Speaker 5: Indiana twenty one of twenty three, two sixty seven and
Speaker 5: five touchdowns. He really played perfect. And this guy, he's
Speaker 5: gonna be scalding hot draft time.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember Kirk Kurbst preseason and Herbie pointed out how
Speaker 2: good this kid was. And I saw him play and
Speaker 2: he didn't have great numbers. And then the last couple
Speaker 2: of games, I think he's had ten touchdowns, no interceptions.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Pauling, Yeah, he's a transfer from Cal. He was pretty
Speaker 5: good last year, but he is lighting it up.
Speaker 2: Didn't Cal just get shut out this last weekend? Adam
Speaker 2: in Illinois, Hi, Adam, best and worst through the weekend.
Speaker 12: Hey, good morning, DP guys. I hope you had a
Speaker 12: great weekend. Well, that's the work is the weekend is
Speaker 12: obviously for me. The Rams choking in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 12: How do you give up two blocks kicks? That's uncalled for.
Speaker 12: It's crazy. I've never seen that before. And then best
Speaker 12: of the weekend Clayton Gershaw going out in style in
Speaker 12: LA getting the win with the Dodgers, and the Dodgers
Speaker 12: now thirteen straight seasons in the postseason.
Speaker 3: Are you guys, Adam, are you jogging?
Speaker 12: I'm actually walking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, oh okay, yeah, all right, Well thank
Speaker 2: you be careful. Sounded like he was on a treadmill.
Speaker 2: Nathan and san Antonio. Hi, Nate, Hey Dan, thanks for
Speaker 2: taking my call.
Speaker 9: My best and worst is in your Florio just kind
Speaker 9: of touched on it the test push. My eyes have
Speaker 9: been open. Then I previously believed if you can't stop it,
Speaker 9: that's your problem. But after watching that play this weekend
Speaker 9: where Hurtz had two or three efforts on getting that
Speaker 9: first down before they finally whistled the play dead after
Speaker 9: the defender had stripped the ball from him. Then they
Speaker 9: decided the play was over. It had gotten the first down.
Speaker 9: That's that of my eye. Then this play is impossible
Speaker 9: to officiate, and yeah, they need to get rid of it.
Speaker 9: If I'm done with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't see the ball carrier. He just kind
Speaker 2: of disappears, and then you're like, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess you've got first down. Not sure. I do
Speaker 2: think that is the emphasis here to get rid of
Speaker 2: the play is you can't officiate it. It would help
Speaker 2: if they actually officiated the play and called when the
Speaker 2: offensive line jumps.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, if you're the NFL, are you hoping that
Speaker 7: the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl? So you know what,
Speaker 7: it won't look like we're out to get you guys.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because Dean Blandino said that he thinks that
Speaker 2: the owners didn't want to take it away because then
Speaker 2: it looked like sour graves.
Speaker 3: We couldn't stop you guys. You guys won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up on this Monday, best and
Speaker 2: worst of the weekend. My thanks again to Mike Florio
Speaker 2: for stopping by. Steve Young will join us in twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes from now.