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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access. On a Tuesday from the

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Speaker 1: Henday Texans Radio Studio, I'm your host Dpcity along with

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Speaker 1: Mark vandermar the Voice of the Texans, and just two

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Speaker 1: more days, forty more hours, less than forty more hours

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Speaker 1: till training camp kicks off. Players are already in the building,

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Speaker 1: a few rookies here and there. Veterans will be here tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And Mark, I mean, this is like, this is what

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Speaker 1: we've waited for football. It's happening. It feels like it's happening.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because you go into the cafeteria

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Speaker 1: here and we've talked about this in the past, how

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Speaker 1: they redid it last year, and these nutrition guys are

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Speaker 1: so pumped up to half camp here because the Greenbrier

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Speaker 1: did a really good job and had a tremendous spread

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Speaker 1: and they had the kind of food they wanted. They

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Speaker 1: were able to create that there, but not as much

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Speaker 1: as they can do it here at home. It's home

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Speaker 1: court advantage really here with these nutrition guys. And the

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Speaker 1: reason I bring this up is because the cafeteria is

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Speaker 1: all these monitors and all these stations, and this is

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Speaker 1: the i'm let's station and this is fresh fruits and

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Speaker 1: the smoothies, and you can just tell they're so geeked

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Speaker 1: and geared up for camp and they just can't wait,

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Speaker 1: and it's just fun. That's just a microcosm. That's a

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Speaker 1: tiny little example. You know. Mike Parson, Equipment Czar is

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Speaker 1: just going guns blazing right now because they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff to get through for these guys to

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Speaker 1: use in training camp. Not just them, but the coaches

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Speaker 1: and staff and everybody. So everybody's really busy here. It's bustling, buzzing,

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Speaker 1: a lot of excitement for Thursdays start. Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to move your entire sports performance center across the

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Speaker 1: country to West Virginia. You don't have to move the cafe.

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Speaker 1: I think what a lot of people don't understand is

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Speaker 1: even though the Greenbrier is a beautiful facility, beautiful hotel,

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Speaker 1: but the golf courses, they were tents set up outside

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Speaker 1: and they were really big, beautiful tents with tables and

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Speaker 1: buffet style lunch and PGA golf tournament style where it's

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Speaker 1: practically a building but it's really it, but it's still

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Speaker 1: a tent. And those would have to get set up

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Speaker 1: and you'd have to move your entire operation out there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, your kitchen, your cafe, everything that's been redesigned.

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Speaker 1: I know you sat down with kel McNair and we

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Speaker 1: played that on Texans All Access Monday. He talked about

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Speaker 1: a lot of the changes that have made, some of

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Speaker 1: them that they made even this year that a lot

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Speaker 1: seeing the changes. But I thought he did a really

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Speaker 1: good job of explaining all the technology that they've put

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Speaker 1: get that out to the people. But it's funny because

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Speaker 1: people were saying, well, why was he talking about that,

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Speaker 1: because he writes the checks for it. Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: a tremendous investment they've made in two virtual walkthrough rooms

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Speaker 1: and the big cooling unit they have that's no joke

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Speaker 1: the other stuff they've added just last year, Like we said,

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Speaker 1: the cafe, and people are thinking, well, it's a dining area.

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Speaker 1: Believe me, that was a huge It was a huge undertaking.

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Speaker 1: so they can make really nutritious food for these guys.

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Speaker 1: And believe me, it's so nutritious. I cannot eat unhealthy

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Speaker 1: Everybody likes it. So anyway, that paints a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a picture of how into it they are, how

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Speaker 1: much they want this place to be high tech. And

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Speaker 1: it gets more high tech every day. And it's not

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Speaker 1: just in the facilities deep as you know, they're getting

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Speaker 1: more into the analytics than ever, the way they do scouting,

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Speaker 1: just making sure they get what they need, state of

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about a franchise that's one the division

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Speaker 1: three out of the last four years. Great, but they

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Speaker 1: want to go that next step. They want to take

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Speaker 1: it further, and how do you take it further. Well,

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Speaker 1: you got to get better on the field, clearly, how

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this virtual reality walk through rooms. We've

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Speaker 1: We could make a virtual set. Yeah, we could, because

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Speaker 1: there's a field set up and it has hash marks

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Speaker 1: you can go to practice right, and then you get

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Speaker 1: into the room and you could say, well, coach, I

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Speaker 1: it up on the wall here because here's life size

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Speaker 1: Oh that's film review right in front of you. Life size.

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Speaker 1: Or they could say here's the scout team you were

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Speaker 1: to be more like this. You know, you got to

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Speaker 1: and you can see it. Oh yeah, I didn't do

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Speaker 1: that right I need to do And look, you can

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see. So there's some really cool stuff there.

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Speaker 1: They can actually put the opponent up there. Oh, you're

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Speaker 1: playing the Panthers. Let's throw Luke Keikley up there with

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Speaker 1: see that if you're Deshaun Watson and the offensive line

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Speaker 1: and where it's coming from. And it's such an advantage.

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Speaker 1: Only a few teams in the league have this kind

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Speaker 1: saying it's gonna equal five more wins, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: and then you do your walkthrough there. So maybe players

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Speaker 1: enough to help players get better. This sounds great. This

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Speaker 1: So the difference is you're you're moving around more, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're not just in your classroom chair. So the analogy

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Speaker 1: So you're moving around and I think for for anybody,

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Speaker 1: classroom stuff. So they'll prepare it in a variety of ways.

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Speaker 1: It's like you're learning, whether you're a visual learner or

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Speaker 1: an auditory learner, or learned by writing and taking test whatever,

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Speaker 1: what's your best way. I'm a visual learner. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I need a virtual reality screens. Yes, okay reps.

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Speaker 1: I haven't put that out there, but but but you're

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Speaker 1: I think I am a visual learner. I I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's my podcast. Like you know, I'm on the radio.

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Speaker 1: But I if somebody were to teach me something on

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Speaker 1: wouldn't retain it as much as if I just saw

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Speaker 1: And that's what this stuff is doing. And I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a stake learner. I have to make the same over

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Speaker 1: I'm perfect, Yeah, I might get it. Cal also talked

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Speaker 1: And that's always been the case here that there's no

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Speaker 1: not want, and that was true with Gary Kubiak too,

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Speaker 1: so and Cal was very clear on that. Well I

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Speaker 1: results of that in many ways through the off season already.

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Speaker 1: So it's a team and everybody reports to Cal, not everybody,

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Speaker 1: better than I know my family. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I love your quote about how well Johnny knows this

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Speaker 1: team because I couldn't agree with you more. I was

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Speaker 1: even going to ask you about that because I didn't

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Speaker 1: know if it was public knowledge yet or not. I

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Speaker 1: decided to just use it publicly. This is this is

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Speaker 1: this is you just made the public this is the

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Speaker 1: debt of that line. Yeah, no breaking news for John

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Speaker 1: Harris to be on the preseason broadcast. I think that's

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Speaker 1: it is. It is breaking news, and it's one of

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Speaker 1: the things we're gonna be doing. We'll promote the radio

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Speaker 1: a little bit differently and you'll just have to stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. We also have some special content during

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Speaker 1: preseason TV broadcasts that will be seen for the first time.

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Speaker 1: We've got Bill O'Brien doing some stuff that nobody's seen.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really awesome. We're holding it for halftime

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Speaker 1: of preseason games, so stay tuned ABC thirteen. It's gonna

443
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Speaker 1: be loaded this year with great content. And on the

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Speaker 1: radio side, Look, Andre and I we love what we do.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun and we always love talking about

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Speaker 1: the team in the preseason. I am in the oppressed

447
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: minority of people who say they love preseason football. Now

448
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Speaker 1: a lot of people do DP and they will admit it.

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Speaker 1: You really do. Because you've ranked your favorite preseason games.

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Speaker 1: I've ranked my favorite. You ranked your favorite preseason plays.

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Speaker 1: I think you've done that. I've done that too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Savage to Travis laugh two point conversion Denver.

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Speaker 1: That was fun preseason that might be that's way up there.

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Speaker 1: That's way up there. What about Watson against Carolina a

455
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, that nifty performance when we're all saying, Okay,

456
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Speaker 1: had some nice plays in preseason a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: That was the same That was the same year, and

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Speaker 1: that was a weird preseason because eventually we had Harvey.

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Speaker 1: So that was kind of strange. All right, well that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do. I mean it ended up No. I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: let's just wrap it up on Harvey. No, no more Harvey. No.

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Speaker 1: That was two years ago. And training camp does return

463
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Speaker 1: to Houston. You can get all the coverage right here

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio with Texans Training Camp Alive kicking off

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Speaker 1: Thursday morning at eight am. But coming up next the

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Speaker 1: man himself, John Harris, I get his take on the

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Speaker 1: top twenty five breakout players that ESPN has predicted. A

468
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Speaker 1: few Texans on the list. Let's see John Harris can

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Speaker 1: guess who they are and what he thinks about those.

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Speaker 1: That's all coming up one final segment of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back for one final segment of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, my good friend John Harris. I like

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Speaker 1: to call the John Harris Segment as we sort of

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Speaker 1: take a deep dive into training camp, which kicks off

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Speaker 1: here in just a few days. Man, he can't get

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Speaker 1: here fashion. I feel like we've been counting down training

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Speaker 1: camp for the last month. I remember saying, oh, it's

478
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Speaker 1: only a month until training camp, and now these days

479
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Speaker 1: seem even long or as we're waiting for camp to

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Speaker 1: actually begin. But it's nice because you see players in

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Speaker 1: the building, yeah, which makes a huge difference in feeling

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Speaker 1: like training camp is near. Yes. And it also is

483
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Speaker 1: probably frustrating too, because it's like you want to speed

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Speaker 1: it along, like, hey, everybody's here, we're all here, let's

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Speaker 1: just start practice. I don't I don't think. I don't

486
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Speaker 1: think all the vets are here, but we've seen I've

487
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Speaker 1: seen a few smattering of them. I think their official

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Speaker 1: report data is tomorrow, Yes, Wednesday, tomorrow, and then kick

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Speaker 1: this thing off on Thursday, So that to me is

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Speaker 1: summer's over at that point. But I don't know. Summer

491
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Speaker 1: seems summer seems to have never even begun for me.

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Speaker 1: So I don't care. I'm just I'm ready to get

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Speaker 1: this thing rolling. This is a pretty exciting season. The

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna face and everybody healthy on this team.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's give it a go and see where we are.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I'll get you

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Speaker 1: even work sited Jenny. I was on ESPN Insider or

498
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Speaker 1: somebody sent this to me the NFL's top twenty five

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Speaker 1: prospects young players who could break out in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and the Texans actually had three three players on that

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Speaker 1: list three and a half, I'll say, three players on

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Speaker 1: the list and an honorable mention. Okay, So I want

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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on it, and I also see

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Speaker 1: if you had anybody else you want to add. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So do you want to take a guess? Why do Well?

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Speaker 1: It's it's sometimes I find it hard to figure out,

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Speaker 1: like what is listed as a breakout player? Okay, Like

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Speaker 1: you know, is it somebody that hasn't made a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl that will make a Pro Bowl. The other night,

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Speaker 1: I was on Sports Sunday and they asked me the

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Speaker 1: question kind of in a different form. Wexy asked me

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Speaker 1: what players should we be talking more about than or

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Speaker 1: who is? What player is someone that nobody's talking about

514
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Speaker 1: that we should be talking about? Okay, And right off

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Speaker 1: the bat, the first game that came to mind was

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Speaker 1: Zach Cuttingham. I think Zach Cuttingham is one of the

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Speaker 1: top ten linebackers in the league. I think if he

518
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Speaker 1: to play, if he had played all year last year

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Speaker 1: and I'm missing the three games when he got hurt

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Speaker 1: in the Miami game, he missed like three games, I

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Speaker 1: think at that point, if he plays the rest of

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Speaker 1: Miami game and the rest of the year, I think

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that that should be recognized.

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Speaker 1: I mean b Max getting the recognition that he richly deserves.

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Speaker 1: I think Zach, but even that was delayed because when

526
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Speaker 1: he he was named his first Pro Bowl after last year,

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Speaker 1: which still seemed like a surprise because he wasn't getting

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Speaker 1: the national recognition. Is yeah, but you know we had

529
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Speaker 1: seen that from from earlier in his second year it's sixteen.

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Speaker 1: He was phenomenal. I mean, he was phenomenal, and he

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Speaker 1: was healthy. The fact that he takes such a good

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Speaker 1: care of himself. He's out there for every single game,

533
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Speaker 1: and he picked up so quickly, stepped in for Brian

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Speaker 1: Cushing right um, and then just from there it was

535
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Speaker 1: just it was hot. It was hot. He was he

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Speaker 1: was trending upwards from the jump. And I think because

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Speaker 1: b Mac made a Pro Bowl and B Mac is

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Speaker 1: a little bit more boisterous and a little bit more

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Speaker 1: what's the right way of saying it. Uh, He's got that.

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Speaker 1: He's got an energy that he plays with. I think

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Speaker 1: it's infectious. So I think people naturally watch a game,

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Speaker 1: they see him and oh, their eyes kind of gravitate

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Speaker 1: towards him, but they don't see all the different things

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Speaker 1: that Zach Cuttingham doesn't field. And I think I think

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Speaker 1: this year a full sixteen games fully healthy, and look,

546
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Speaker 1: he's playing inside linebacker position. It's hard to be fully

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Speaker 1: healthy for sixteen games. But if he can get a

548
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Speaker 1: majority of games this year, then I think Zach Cutty

549
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Speaker 1: games should be one of those players that breaks out.

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Speaker 1: He got a seventy six on Madden as an overall rating.

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Speaker 1: That was insane. I saw that. I was like, that's

552
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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. So Deshaun also was what an eighty two

553
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Speaker 1: or something like that, which many people were, many even

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Speaker 1: the non Texans players, former teammates of his, Tyrone Matthew

555
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Speaker 1: being one of them, very vocal Twitter about that. Let

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Speaker 1: me just let me just clarify this article though, this

557
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Speaker 1: is about second year player. Okay, second year is a

558
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Speaker 1: great pick. Gotch Let's look at the second so you

559
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Speaker 1: got to go back a few years. One one's got

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Speaker 1: to be Keiki Qt. Yeah, he's actually the highest on

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Speaker 1: the list, and he's number third on the This is

562
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Speaker 1: like the entire the entire league top twenty five, not

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Speaker 1: per team. So who are who are the top two?

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Speaker 1: Give me the top two? Okay, the top two. Number

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Speaker 1: one Lorenzo Carter, outside linebacker for the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: He was a third run pick in twenty eighteen and

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Speaker 1: then second. DeShawn Hand defensive Lions handed a really good

568
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Speaker 1: year last year. He was very very good. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I remember when the Texans coached at the Senior Bowl

570
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Speaker 1: after the twenty was a disaster twenty seventeen, after twenty

571
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Speaker 1: seventeen season, they coached the South team, and on that

572
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Speaker 1: South team included Darius Leonard who is now with the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Also Jordan Nakins who ended up with the Texans, and

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Speaker 1: then DeShawn Hand. And I remember watching Hand at practice

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Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, that dude's a freak of nature.

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Speaker 1: And you wonder like why did not go so well

577
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Speaker 1: at Alabama? Like he was the number one recruited country,

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Speaker 1: Like what happened this guy? And I remember the interviewed

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Speaker 1: rack during the game and they asked him, you know,

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Speaker 1: are there players that stand out? And I remember him

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Speaker 1: just saying hand and I was like, wait a second,

582
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Speaker 1: as he talking about somebody's hand, and then went, oh, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he's talking about He's talking about Seawan Hand from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: And I think he ended up going in the fourth

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Speaker 1: round to Troy. And he's with another couple of his

586
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Speaker 1: Alabama buddies up in Detroit, A Shaan Robinson's up there,

587
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Speaker 1: so he's up there with them, and he had a

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Speaker 1: pretty good year as a rookie. I that's a that's

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Speaker 1: that's not a bad one, Lorenzo Carter. But he had

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Speaker 1: a pretty good rookie season. And I know they're looking

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Speaker 1: for a lot for him from him. They kind of

592
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Speaker 1: in that Patriots style defense. They kind of look at

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Speaker 1: him as the as their version of Richard Seymour, who

594
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Speaker 1: played for the Patriots when the Patriots early part of

595
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Speaker 1: the Patriots dynasty, was an All Pro player, was an

596
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Speaker 1: incredible player, didn't always rack up a lot of numbers,

597
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Speaker 1: but was one of the best defensive lineman. Uh In

598
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Speaker 1: football Richard Seymour, and I know that they look at

599
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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannon kind of see that that's what they

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Speaker 1: want to see out of him. Lorenzo Carter's gotta quit

601
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Speaker 1: being soft. Let's put it that way. He can be

602
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Speaker 1: a big time player. They guy six six, he's two

603
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds, he runs like the wind. He can,

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Speaker 1: he's got, He's got every ounce of athletic ability you

605
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Speaker 1: could possibly want. I remember seeing him at Norcross, Georgia

606
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Speaker 1: in high school and I thought, who's that freakazoid? Then

607
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: he ended up going to University of Georgia and it

608
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Speaker 1: was like freshman year, boy, this guy's gonna be unbelievable.

609
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Speaker 1: And then it never got to that level again. And

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Speaker 1: even last year saw him with the Giants, He's like, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: So that to me is more like if that guy

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Speaker 1: breaks out, I mean, the Giants needs to Madge Rush

613
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: rushing help because they got rid of Olivier Vernon, so

614
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Speaker 1: they've got to rely on the Rensler Carter. So I

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00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: see the philosophy there. But he's got to quit being soft.

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Speaker 1: He just can't be soft anymore. He's got to He's

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Speaker 1: got to bring it off the edge. DeShawn Hand's a

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Speaker 1: good one. That's a really good one. Then kid number three,

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Speaker 1: which three, he's right behind those guys, first offensive player

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Speaker 1: on the list. So there are two more for the Texans. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: I wonder I mean there were in a lot of drafts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: actually he's a there's somebody in between Kiki and Jordan Thomas.

623
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Speaker 1: But Jordan Thomas comes in at number twenty four. Ye

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Speaker 1: as a break up player, I would have put him

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Speaker 1: a little bit higher on this list, But I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's different from a national right when it's a

627
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Speaker 1: NAT I feel like these national writers don't really see

628
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Speaker 1: the team the exact same way. Yeah, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: hard part. We do in the off season. And obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know we we see every ota. We don't see

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Speaker 1: every practice, but we see the ones that we can.

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Speaker 1: National media aren't making their rounds until they get the

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Speaker 1: training camp, and so that's when you start hearing a

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Speaker 1: lot of breakout names. Hey, I was at LA Chargers

635
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: training can't practice, and let me tell you about this

636
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Speaker 1: Jerry Tilory fella they took in the first round and

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00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: then they that that's when it starts to happen yeah. Otherwise, otherwise,

638
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: we who have been talking about Jordan Thomas all off

639
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: season and OTS and how that feels like no smooth

640
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: and fluid. I mean we saw it, we saw it

641
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: last year, but this offseason he really, especially with Ryan

642
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Griffin now no longer with the team, Jordan Thomas is

643
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: really has to step up in that role. And the

644
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: Jordan's last year anyway, I mean it's very hard to

645
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: believe they were just rookies last year. So, okay, so

646
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: you got one guy in I think I know who

647
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: that is. Me come as a little bit of a surprise, Yeah,

648
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: because I felt like he broke out our a rookie,

649
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: Justin Reid. No, he's actually not Okay, good, that's why.

650
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: But that's probably why he's not on the list right

651
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: because because he did have a kind of had a

652
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: breakout season as it was, well, I would think it

653
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: might be the other George Jordan Nakens. No, okay, he's well,

654
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: he's anticipating a position change this year, So I wonder

655
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: if that's the reason why he's on this list for

656
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: a breakout season, anticipating a position change this year. Slight

657
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: position change. A slight position change. Um oh boy, I

658
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: feel like I've stumped you. And when I tell you

659
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: who it is, You're just gonna be I mean, I'm

660
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna be like yourself. Yeah, that makes it. That makes

661
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: a ton of sense. It's Martinez rankin number eleven. Interesting.

662
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: I am very very interesting. I said before, I think

663
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Martinez is an next factor in his offensive line and

664
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, he's gonna have an opportunity. Uh And

665
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be tough. There's a first round or

666
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: draft this year, second round or draft this year, Shantraw

667
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Henderson comes back. I felt like the opportunity for him

668
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: to really lock up a starting spot was maybe last year.

669
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: So I this offensive line, and I know people on

670
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: the offensive line, I mean everywhere talks about the offensive line.

671
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: We talked about the offensive line. I've thought about it

672
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: all summer. I went back and I watched all sixty

673
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: two sacks plus the playoff game sacks last week. I've

674
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit and just watching this

675
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: that whole group again, and look, there's there's a lot

676
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of room for improvement, but I

677
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: do think you're going to see some And the one

678
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: thing that I kept coming back to is I was

679
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: watching is the guys that they had on the offensive

680
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: line last year, A lot of were in their first

681
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: year as a starter or their first year with the Texans.

682
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: The only one that I had multiple years was when

683
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: Matts would go, when Greg Matts would go in a

684
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: game because he'd been here for a while, or Nick,

685
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: but Nick was only his second year. So these we're

686
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: all together really for the first time. Now. I know

687
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: you've got two rookies that could ultimately be in the

688
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: starting lineup this year, and so that would change everything.

689
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: But I just feel like you gotta have you gotta

690
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: have some continuity on the offensive line. And there were

691
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: times last year in that Philadelphia game when Martinez was

692
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: going against former Mississippi State guy Fletcher Cox and Martinez

693
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: was holding his own he was holding his own in

694
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: there as a guard. So he's gonna be He's gonna

695
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: be part of that competition. So you got two guys

696
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: coming back, and Snail come that day and Zach Fulton

697
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: that started the majority of year at guard. You've got

698
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Martinez rankin who probably his best served to be a guard.

699
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: You still got Greg Mants there, and what do you

700
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: do with Max Sharping and Titus Howard. Are they gonna

701
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: be your tackles or you're gonna move those guys into

702
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: guard two. So if you have them at guard, then

703
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got a backlog of guards.

704
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna be some guys that played some games last year.

705
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: They're not gonna end up making this team. So and

706
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: then you got to figure out, obviously what you're doing

707
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: a tackle spots. And if Sean traw Henderson is healthy,

708
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I I know I want to see what he can do.

709
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm one of those that's very curious about him

710
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: because I think him. Do you think if he's healthy,

711
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: he's got a tackle spot locked up? I wouldn't say

712
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: locked up anything with the offensive line. I wouldn't say

713
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: anything just because I'm thinking about last year how he

714
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: But I don't think he would be the guy. He's

715
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: so big, he looks like a tackle, he moves like

716
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: a tackle. He moves pretty well. Had he not gotten

717
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: injured in that first game against New England, it seemed

718
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: like he had had that spot locked up, right. I

719
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I feel like he's the He's the kind of right

720
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: tackle you want to have because he's got the size,

721
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: he's got the strength, he's got the agility. He moves

722
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: pretty well for a big dude. I mean when you

723
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: see him, you're like, whoa. I mean, you watch him

724
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: on TV, you even think he's bigger than everybody else.

725
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: Then you see him up close in person, You're like, holy,

726
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: he smokes. So I feel like, my my gut tells

727
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: me that they want to see what he can do

728
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: it right tackle because with all that talent, can it

729
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: come together? Can it all come together? And I think

730
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: watching him last year at the Greenbrier, which is really

731
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the only time we got a chance to watch him

732
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: because he got hurting that Patriots game. Watching him at

733
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: the Greenbriar was like, look, man, he's holding his own

734
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: against against JJ, he's holding his own against um the Russian.

735
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: He's going against Whitney. He's getting beat. I mean offensive

736
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: linrary get beat in practice. I mean it happens beat

737
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: in games. It happens. But I thought that was a

738
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: big factor that we didn't discuss further. We talked about

739
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the offensive linear, but say, oh, the offensive line for

740
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: Texas is not very good. It's not very good, but

741
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: you lose one piece like that, and now you've got

742
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: to move pieces around you're changing the lineup. It was

743
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: a total domino effect. Yeah, absolutely so. I don't know

744
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: if I would say that Sean Charles a lock, but

745
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: I think if they see from him in training camp

746
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: what they what they expect to see, what we expect

747
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: to see, then I think he's go let me start

748
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: on the offensive lineawhere somewhere. My favorite memory of Shantrel

749
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Henderson from that training camp was the day. Do you

750
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: remember the day was pouring down rain and the players

751
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: turned the field into slipping slide. Yes, Sean Henderson, I

752
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: was waiting to interview somebody from the old line. Yeah,

753
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: and they all wanted to watch Big Trail because he

754
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: was so big. He so big, displaced so much of

755
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: that field slight. It was like half of the grass

756
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: was now on the other side of him. But they

757
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: all really you know, it's also his persona too. They

758
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: just really liked, you know, he's a leader, he's sort

759
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: of fun, he's having fun out there, so be good

760
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: to see him back up there healthy. But Martinez Rankin,

761
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: I think that's very promising that he made the list

762
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: because you we saw him play a little bit of

763
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: guard last year. Was there a point in the season

764
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: where you thought, yeah, they're definitely gonna they they they're

765
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: probably gonna move him. Well, the we played was playing

766
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: tax in the Philly game, and I do remember Philip

767
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, but I feel like even before then, I

768
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: don't know how much he played at guard. Before that,

769
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: he might have played a little bit, but in that

770
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: game he had to play that entire game, and I

771
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: just remember feeling alike, boy, he really he really held

772
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: his own in that game. And he wasn't he wasn't perfect,

773
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: but he more than held his own against the guy

774
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: that you don't go one on one much against Fletcher Cox.

775
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the week before they had played the Rams

776
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: on a Monday night and they Sunday night or Monday

777
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: night a Sunday night, and the Eagles had had to

778
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: have that game, and Fletcher Cox was tossing interior alignment

779
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: from the Rams around like throw pillows his drew like

780
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: just likes to say, and I'm like, oh my god.

781
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: And then when I heard that that Martinez was gonna

782
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: have to play guard, That's where my focus went for

783
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the game because I wanted to see

784
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: and I remember watching a couple of the first few

785
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: plays and I was like, he's got to hold his

786
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: own in here because Cox is a monster, and he's

787
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: doing He's doing Okay, he wasn't perfect, but I watched thinking, Okay,

788
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: there's there's something there with him at guard. I don't know.

789
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about it is, in Mississippi State,

790
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: he probably would have moved into the center had they

791
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: not had some injuries on their offensive line and he

792
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: had to stay at left tackle because the spring going

793
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: into senior year, he actually played the entire spring at

794
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: center for Mississippi State, and that was the thought that

795
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: he was going to go to the interior line. It's

796
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a center guard kind of guy. And so

797
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't too surprised about him going into guard, but

798
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: he was just thrown into the phrase so early because

799
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: of Sean Charles's injury. He had to jump out there

800
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: to left tackle in the second quarter of that Patriots game,

801
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: and dp he had no training camp. Martinez had no

802
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: training camp to speak of. So he's got a new number,

803
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: he's got a new position you'd think, at guard, and

804
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: he's got all the training camp to prove that he

805
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: needs to be one of the five guys that starts

806
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: and plays a significant amount of this offensive line. So interesting,

807
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: interesting guy on the list. I'm glad he didn't put

808
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: Justin Reid because justin that I think is he's already

809
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: kind of broken up. And I need to clarify. This

810
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: list is actually players that were drafted in the third

811
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: rounder later okay signed or signed as an undrafted free agent.

812
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: And it's actually they entered the NFL between twenty sixteen

813
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: and twenty eighteen, so not just last year's players. And

814
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: I bring that up because there was also an honorable

815
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: mention m listed. There were a group of players that

816
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: didn't make the top twenty five, but we're an honorable mention,

817
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: so I'll give you that criteria to expand choices a

818
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: little bit. Honorable mention fewer than five hundred career offensive

819
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: or defensive snaps. Who is it except running backs were allowed?

820
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: Just three? Yes? Oh yeah, so Deonta Foreman makes honorable mention,

821
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: which you know, well, I just we just ran into

822
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: him a little while ago. I might have put on

823
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: that list a little higher than either a Martinez or

824
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas. I do think that those guys are going

825
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: to be They're going to be um. I think they're

826
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: popular candidates for that. But the ata Foreman breaks out

827
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: for this team this year and Lamar Miller stays healthy,

828
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: we're going to be a monster to stop offensively. Those

829
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: are those are big ifs. But if Dante Foreman breaks out,

830
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: if you give it's funny because when I've listened to

831
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: national punnets talk about Deshaun Watson, I hear a lot

832
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: of them say, well, they had really know similants of

833
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: running game last year, And I don't I disagree with

834
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: that because in the middle of the season they ran

835
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: the ball very well. At the end of the year,

836
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: they did not run the ball very well. That's where

837
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: a guy like Deantey Foreman could really come in handy

838
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: at the end of a healthy Deantay form because he

839
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: did play in the Filadelphia game, but he wasn't he

840
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: wasn't fully healthy at that point that he is now.

841
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: So you get a healthy Deantay Foreman and he does

842
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: break out, and he's playing alongside Lamar Miller, and Lamar

843
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: does what Lamar does, You're gonna have as good running

844
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: game as you could possibly want. So on other people

845
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: out there saying, oh Texas need running backed running back,

846
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: Danta Foreman breaks out like we all think he can. Again,

847
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: it goes back to we've seen every OTA and when

848
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: a guy is hurt or misses a year, and we

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Speaker 1: were talking about him, it's because we've had a chance

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Speaker 1: to see him in OTA's and mini camp. We've seen that,

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Speaker 1: and the fans haven't so kind of out of side

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Speaker 1: on a mine. But if Deonta Foreman breaks out, first

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Speaker 1: of all, I think you can be much higher on

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Speaker 1: that list. But that said, I think he is going

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Speaker 1: to be He's gonna be a huge I've said all

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Speaker 1: along Martin's Rankin and Deante Foreman are going to play

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Speaker 1: huge roles and huge X factors on this offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've seen him all off season long, which is a

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Speaker 1: great site to see a healthy Deonta Foreman out there,

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Speaker 1: and fans, we'll get to see him out here at

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Speaker 1: training camp when practice is open up to the public

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, August first. But practice will be open for

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Speaker 1: us starting this Thursday, and we've just got one more

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Speaker 1: show of Texans All Access before training camp hits, and

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Speaker 1: then it'll be John Harris and Mark Vandermere eight am

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Speaker 1: Thursday morning, bright and early Texans Training Camp Alive kicks

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Speaker 1: off and then we'll still have all access every night

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Speaker 1: from six to seven pm. All right, that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us, For John Harris, Mark Vandermere, I'm dpcdo

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Speaker 1: Thanks as always for listening, and go Texans.