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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bloomberg Law Podcast. I'm June Grosso. Every

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Speaker 1: day we bring you insight and analysis into the most

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Speaker 1: important legal news of the day. You can find more

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Speaker 1: is my colleague Greg Store, Bloomberg News Supreme Court reporter. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. Good to be here, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: You have this fascinating story up on the Bloomberg terminal

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Speaker 1: headlined Mitch McConnell. Senate Majardy Leader Mitch McConnell tells Top

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Speaker 1: Court not to be cowed by Democrats on guns. So

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Speaker 1: earlier in the summer, following the horrific on shooting Massacres,

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Speaker 1: he had said that he would take up some type

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Speaker 1: of legislation once lawmakers returned back from recess. We heard

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Speaker 1: earlier this hour from our colleague Billy House about potentially

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Speaker 1: the hearings that are that are our scheduled for next week.

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Speaker 1: But now we hear another message from Leader McConnell to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Yes, and it's all because the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court looks like it's going to hear its first gun

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Speaker 1: rights case, its first Second Amendment case in a decade,

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Speaker 1: and it has to do with rules in New York

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Speaker 1: City that until recently sharply limited where you could take

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Speaker 1: your license handgun. The city said that you could only

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Speaker 1: take it to even if it was unlocked, and even

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Speaker 1: if it was locked and unloaded, to one of the

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Speaker 1: shooting ranges in the city. Some residents sued, saying, we

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Speaker 1: want to be able to take it elsewhere, like the

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Speaker 1: shooting ranges outside the city, to a second home. The

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court was going to decide whether to strike that

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Speaker 1: that law down, but then New York City changed its rules,

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Speaker 1: basically trying to keep the Supreme Court from having anything

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Speaker 1: to rule about. So the course now deciding, are we

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Speaker 1: going to toss this case because it's moot? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: then see, but I find this interesting. Not to interrupt,

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Speaker 1: but just to pause for a second, to let this

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Speaker 1: breathe for a second. I think when most people talk

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Speaker 1: about gun rights or gun advocacy issues, they don't go

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Speaker 1: top line view and you know, assault weapons bans and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is the Supreme Court, as you're reporting

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Speaker 1: indicates set to take up the first gun issue in

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Speaker 1: more than a decade. It's been a decade than acade,

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Speaker 1: and it's on a very small granular aspect of this.

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Speaker 1: So now lead us to why this matters go ahead? Yes, So, conservatives,

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Speaker 1: good rights supporters are rather frustrated that the Court hasn't

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Speaker 1: taken up another case. They want the Court to expand

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Speaker 1: Second Amendment rights, and they're hoping that the Court will

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Speaker 1: take this granular issue and do something bigger with it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And if the Supreme Court drops this case, as liberals

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Speaker 1: want wanted to do, that would deprive them of this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So that's the context wherein some Democratic senators recently filed

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary brief with the Court urging them to drop

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Speaker 1: the case. And Mitch McConnell said, Hey, Supreme Court, don't

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Speaker 1: be cowed by these democraticators. Stick with Well, he's not

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Speaker 1: saying keep the case, he's saying, we don't take a

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Speaker 1: position on that. But don't listen to Senator Sheldon white House,

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, who is telling you that your legitimacy depends

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Speaker 1: on you dropping this case. Greg stores here, smartest men

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Speaker 1: in Washington, Bloomberg News. Supreme Court reporter knows all of

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Speaker 1: the legalities inside and out of Scotus and what's going

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Speaker 1: on there. When will we find out when they make

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Speaker 1: it make a decision to take up the case or

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Speaker 1: drop a case. Not totally clear. Their scheduled to talk

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Speaker 1: about it at their private They the justices are scheduled

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Speaker 1: to talk about it at their private conference on October one.

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Speaker 1: They may say shortly after that, or they may go

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Speaker 1: ahead and go ahead and hear arguments and tell us

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Speaker 1: later whether whether they're actually going to issue a ruling.

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Speaker 1: Are there any other potential cases pertaining to the Second

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Speaker 1: Amendment that the Supreme Court might take up. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: that's part of the irony of this. There are some

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Speaker 1: cases that they're holding for this New York City case.

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Speaker 1: In particular, there's this longstanding issue about whether the right

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Speaker 1: to bear arms extends outside the home. The Court's only

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Speaker 1: said that it applies if you're in your home, and

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Speaker 1: there is, among others, a New Jersey case involving that

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Speaker 1: law's restrictions on who can carry a handgun in public.

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Speaker 1: If the Court drops the New York City case, it's

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Speaker 1: very possible the court would take up that bigger issue.

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Speaker 1: Greg Stories here he has been News Supreme Court reporter.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about the Supreme Court and whether or

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Speaker 1: not it will take up cases pertaining to the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the lobbying on this particular issue, we've

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Speaker 1: seen all summer turbulence for lack of a better word,

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Speaker 1: that is struck. The National Rifle Association have they been

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Speaker 1: a major part in this case at the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: and with regards to New York, they have been the

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Speaker 1: lead challenger to the law. Is a New York gun

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Speaker 1: The n r A would very much like the Court

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and rule on this. With Brett having

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Speaker 1: of hopes among the n ARRA and their supporters that

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Speaker 1: we will have more robust gun rights protections from the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. UH. Just as a disclaimer, Michael Bloomberg, owner

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Speaker 1: a founder of and helps fund every Town for Gun Safety.

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Speaker 1: That's a nonprofit that advocates for gun violence prevention and

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Speaker 1: other gun safety measures. Before I let you go, Greg Star,

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg News National Bloomberg New Supreme Court reporter before I

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Speaker 1: let you go, Uh, there was some There was some

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Speaker 1: news the other week about RBG weighing in on Brett

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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh that surprised me in terms of how she, uh

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Speaker 1: said he's fitting in on the Supreme Court. How is

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Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh fitting in on on the Supreme Court with

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Speaker 1: his colleagues by all outward appearances just fine? Uh, there's

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Speaker 1: you know, when he's on the bench, he seems to

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Speaker 1: get along very well with Justice A. Lanna Kagan, who

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Speaker 1: sits right next to him. Uh. None of the turmoil

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Speaker 1: that we've seen outside the court is evident in terms

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Speaker 1: of the interpersonal relationships among the justices. He is a

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Speaker 1: very gregarious guy, and it would not be surprised if

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Speaker 1: indeed he does get along well with his colleagues. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows the bigger context, and people like Ginsburg are

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Speaker 1: very worried about the direction of the court. But outwardly,

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Speaker 1: at least, everybody seems to be getting along all right.

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Speaker 1: Greg Store, Bloomberg News Supreme Court reporter. Always fun to

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Speaker 1: talk with you. You always know everything going on. All

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Speaker 1: of the cases, not just the big ones, but those

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Speaker 1: little cases have have long lasting implications. Thanks for listening

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