1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Family, food, Football, Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Danny 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Surrek joins me on this day before Thanksgiving, one of 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: which everyone a happy and safe Thanksgiving just might be 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: the best day of the year. Cardinals this week hosts 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: the Rams, the second meeting of the season. What do 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: we know about who will and who won't play? Plus 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: the latest on Kaizier White, Josh Woods is ready to 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: step up? And should we be concerned about the shoulder 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: injury to Michael Wilson? And how do we get Hollywood 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: Brown more productive? It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven oh two, 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Food to Faker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: dot Com, Slash Podcasts. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: The ten half of five pas it again So far 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Harry Magic. 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig griolud. 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: So. I had not planned to begin the show with 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: another tweet or post or whatever we're calling it these days, though, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: I think at this point Danny's become a thing. I 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: think this is what show three or four in a 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: row in which I examine your social media feed. But 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: there's a good reason for this one. 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: Though I might have to block you, but continue at 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: your own risk. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: This was earlier on Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: If anything, what did I tweet today? 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: Wow? 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: You have that short term memory? 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: I don't know? 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, here it is to refresh your memory. 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: If anyone was curious, neither linebacker Josh Woods nor quarterback 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray will be cooking for their Thanksgiving Day plans. 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I asked the tough questions around here. 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's not bad. It's not a bad one 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: to pull. That is true. I talked with Josh Woods 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: for this week's Sideline Exchange interview and some where we 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: were done, I was just asking him about his Thanksgiving 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: plans and he's actually going to Bobby Price's house. And 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: so I had asked Josh, said, oh what are you making? 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: What are you bring in? And he left. He goes, oh, no, 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: I'm helping pay for the food. I'm not bringing anything. 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, you don't cook, and he 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: said no, but I grill. And what was funny was 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Michael Carter was walking by, not super close though, and 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: heard jos say that son, the two of them are 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: going at it about who is the better grill master, 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna end up having a grill off, 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: it is what I gathered from that. So Josh Woods 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: is not cooking. And then when Kyler had his press 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: conference Wednesday, he was asked if he's putting sarracha on 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: his Thanksgiving foods right, because we know from previous videos 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: Kyler loves siracha, which I get. I love that as well, 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: So I followed up and asked if Kyler was planning 57 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: on cooking anything, and he said, I dabble, but he 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: will not be cooking, and basically said, when it's time 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: for me to have to learn how to cook for Thanksgiving, 60 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: I will learn. And I'm pretty good when I put 61 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: my mind to things. But I can't imagine Kyler's ever 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: gonna need to learn how to cook for Thanksgiving. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Unless it becomes a competition as far as who's guess 64 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: cook grilling, barbecue, stuff like that. The competition I can 65 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: see as competitive as Kyler is, and we only know 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: him in one fashion of that as a football player, 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: but we've heard how competitive he is chess. He's very 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: competitive in the game of chess. I could see Kyler 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: sitting there and figuring out what it takes to be 70 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: a good grill master or a cook or something or 71 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: a specific dish if it's a part of a competition. 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: I learned from Cardinals Underground on Tuesday that Paul is 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: not contributing anything food wise for Thanksgiving? 74 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Does that seriously a lot? 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: And I learned Darren is cooking, And at first I 76 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: was like, holy cow, because I thought they were doing 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: a full Thanksgiving feast, not to fully take away from Darren, 78 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: but they're doing a brunch, so he is still doing 79 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: a ham. But Darren's doing like eggs and waffles and 80 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: French toes, which again is great to contribute, but I'm 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: not as impressed when I thought he was doing a 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: turkey and stuffing and mashed potatoes and yams and cranberry sauce. 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: And no green bean cast role. 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: No Josh Woods does not like greenmy castrole. 85 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Did the interview stop at that point? 86 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: Well, this was after, but it did knock off some 87 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: points on how I feel about him. But I wasn't 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: gonna tell him that. But I told him I loved 89 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: greamy castrole, and he said, I don't know that I've 90 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: ever had a cast role in my life. And I 91 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: was like, now that you say that, this is probably 92 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: the only cast role that I like. 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. I'm gonna get back to Josh Woods 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: here in a minute, but I want to go back 95 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray because this is now two weeks, three weeks, 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: and we keep hearing about how he's changed. Have you 97 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: noticed Kyler Murray the first four years versus Kyler Murray 98 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: in now these first three weeks addressing the media. 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I was actually thinking that today because you very 100 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: kindly transcribe our press conference it is, and you share them. 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: Okay, not a full transcript, time. 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: Coat, And I was thinking today I was curious before 103 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: I came down to the podcast studio, I was like, 104 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: I felt like Kyler talked for a while, because I 105 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: actually came in a few minutes late because I was 106 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: doing my sideline exchange interview with Josh and I wasn't 107 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: sure how Laday came in, so I wanted to look, 108 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: and Kyler talked for what thirteen fourteen minutes? And I 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: was thinking, I don't know if we ever got close 110 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: to that range last year or the year before, which 111 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: was all I really have of experience with Kyler. It 112 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: has been a nice change of he's talking longer. I 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: feel like his answers are more candid, more honest, more accountability. 114 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: It's been nice his body language when he sits at 115 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the podium. For those who aren't familiar, are not quite sure. 116 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: As we paint the picture here on Cardinals cover two 117 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: presented by Hundai Pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals, I 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: would go I would invite you to go to a 119 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com to see for yourself and look at 120 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: previous Kyler Murray Wednesday interviews, meets with the reporters versus 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: what we've seen this season, and the arms are folded 122 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: in front of him. He's leaning up against the microphone. 123 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: He's looking at you and looking at your eyes. He's 124 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: addressing you as opposed to kind of addressing the room. 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: He seems, to your point, more engaged. He is more 126 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: into it. And again this is maybe this is just 127 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: more of a media thing because it's a better interview. 128 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: You get more information out of a player when they 129 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: are engaged with you and feel like it's not a 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: task or that they were forced to do something. I 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: get it. In the NFL, the quarterback has to speak 132 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: twice a week, once during the week and then once postgame. 133 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: So it is part of their job. But earlier in 134 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: Kyler's career it felt like a job. Now it doesn't 135 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: feel so much as it's a job or a requirement. 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: He knows he has to do it, but he's walking 137 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: in there kind of with an open mind and ready 138 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: to have a conversation as opposed to answering the questions. 139 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: It's a good way to put it and not just 140 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: you don't just recognize that the football questions. That's what's 141 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: allowed us to have some fun and ask him about 142 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving the day before the holiday, right, That just kind 143 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: of allows him to be a little more open and 144 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: showcase his personality. 145 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: You get to know the person rather than just what 146 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: you see on the field. 147 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: On Sunday exactly. 148 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: So, all right, so that's Kyler Merer. Let's go back 149 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: to Josh Woods because the reason why he is part 150 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: of the sideline exchange I'm guessing one of the big 151 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: reasons why he is your interviewee, if you will, is 152 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: because now he becomes your quarterback of the defense. He 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: takes over for Kaiser White, who has done for the 154 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: season with a bicep injury. Who to my surprise, and 155 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just me, but when 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: anytime you hear a head coach or anyone say, yeah, 157 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: they're done for the season, they're on IR, it's unfortunate, 158 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: it's awful. You don't want anyone be injured. I basically 159 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: put them out of side, out of mind. You typically 160 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: when a player is done there, oh yeah, yeah, typically 161 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: when you're on IR. And it's it's just kind of 162 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: how it is, regardless of sport. You all of a 163 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: sudden become detached from the team. The team moves on, 164 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: but you can't because you're hurt. You can't contribute, at 165 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: least on the field. Yet, what did we see during 166 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: the open portion of practice on Wednesday? Kaiser White standing 167 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: with the football in his hand, not just standing though 168 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: he had his practice uniform on, watching his teammates, which 169 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: to me, I was stunned until you think back of 170 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: what we heard and you probably saw it as well. 171 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Postgame in Houston won he played what five or six 172 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: naps after he tore the bicep. No one realized it 173 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: until the training staff had to basically sit him down 174 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: and say, no, you are not playing in this game. 175 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: And then he was in full uniform when they open 176 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: locker room for postgame, still couldn't take that uniform off, 177 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: knowing that he had torn his bicep and had likely 178 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: played his last snap of twenty twenty three. 179 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: Says a lot about him and his character. That was 180 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: something that JG and Nickrawlis talked about. Yeah, now you 181 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: can see why he's a captain and how much he 182 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: cares about the game and about this team. When you 183 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: say out of sight, out of mind, that's because typically 184 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: if players are rehabbing, it's during practice, so we don't 185 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: really see them around the building otherwise, which makes sense 186 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: why when Carlos Watkins and l. J. Collier on the 187 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: defensive line had the same injury early this season, it 188 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: took us a while up until probably three weeks ago, 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: was the first time we saw Collier and Watkins out 190 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 3: at practice of not rehabbing or whatever it is they 191 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: were doing with that time. So that's what is surprising 192 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: is the fact that this is the first practice since 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: Kaizier's injury and he is out there now. That's not 194 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: to say he's not rehabbing or whatever that might be. 195 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: Maybe that's because before you can do anything with the byset, 196 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: maybe you have to maybe it's still inflamed, or you 197 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: need to kind of let it sit for a little 198 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: before you do anything. It does say a lot about him. 199 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 3: You're right that he was out of practice. He wasn't 200 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 3: just in street clothes. He was in that practice uniform. 201 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: Really does say a lot about him. And he wasn't 202 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: just you know, roaming around out there just for fun, 203 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: like he was as close as he could get without 204 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: getting hit in those linebacker drills. 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what his plans are post playing career, 206 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: but I could see him just based on what I 207 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: saw earlier on Wednesday, him being a coach. Now, of course, 208 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: the hours of a coach versus the hours that a 209 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: player puts in is a little bit different. I mean, 210 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work either way. But he seems 211 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: to really enjoy the game of football, the passion to play, 212 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: and that's the one big thing you cannot measure with 213 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: a watch or anything else as far as trying to 214 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: figure out is his player going to be successful? How 215 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: do you predict success? Well, it's the work that you 216 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: put in during the week to be successful on Sunday. 217 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: And the good news is Kaiser's under contract for next season. 218 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. One of the few guys in 219 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: the offseason who did get a multi year contract coming 220 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: over from Philadelphia almost an extension of Jonathan Gannon and 221 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: Nick rowlsis knowing this defense. So I for one one, 222 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: you feel awful that the injury is going to force 223 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: him to the sideline the rest of the rest of 224 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: the season, But the fact that he is going to 225 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: be here in twenty twenty four, maybe even beyond that, 226 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: depending on what happens. 227 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: How many games left are other six, Yes, I would 228 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: say that even though Kaiser White will not play another 229 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: snap this year, without playing six games, he will very 230 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: likely still be your best offseason acquisition outside the draft 231 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: as a free agent. I still think even not playing 232 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: six games, you could argue that for him, up until 233 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: leaving when he was forced to leave the game Sunday, 234 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: he had played every single defensive snap, one percent of 235 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: the snaps. There's a lot of times he's the only 236 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: linebacker out there. What he's done and what he's done 237 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: so quickly. I think back to Week one in Washington, 238 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's been very impressive the way he has 239 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: come in and yes he has that relationship with Rollis 240 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: and Gannon leading back to Philly. Still very impressive. We 241 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: don't see a lot of emotion out of Gannon when 242 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: he was talking. Believe it was his Monday press conference 243 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: when Gannon was talking about Kaizer's injury. He almost looked 244 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: sad is not the right word, gutted when he was 245 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: talking about the fact that because Kaizer was staying out there, 246 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: they didn't know that he was playing with the torm 247 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: binseept and the thought of the pain of playing with 248 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: that and being able to tackle with one arm and 249 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: he was still out there of you could see it, 250 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: and Gannon's body language and how he was answering the 251 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: question was just like amazement and felt horrible that he 252 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: was playing out there. And that's not to say that 253 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: the staff and the training stuff isn't doing their job 254 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: to see but when you've got a guy who is 255 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 3: still going out and still playing and not acting like 256 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: he has a torn bisapp right like until you notice, 257 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: you're not gonna know anything different. 258 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: One of the new faces, one of the many new 259 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: faces on this roster, and it's a good maybe question 260 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: to ask at the end of the season. Even just 261 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: having played only eleven games, does anyone surpass what Kaizer 262 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: or White has done for a full seventeen games. The 263 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: only name that comes to my mind immediately without even 264 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of looking at things is your starting center yell 265 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: to Frold. He hasn't played every single snap, but he 266 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: has started every single game. He's had to miss a 267 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: couple of snaps during the game. But you talk about 268 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: the anchor of the offensive line. Kyler Murray talked about 269 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: him earlier on Wednesday on how much Yelleda has been 270 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: a help to Kyler within this offense. So it's it's 271 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: if you stop and think about it, Yeah, even just 272 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: eleven games played, Kaiser White, what he's done on stat wise, 273 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: and then just being that extension of the coaches on 274 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: the sideline just. 275 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: As impressive as Kaiser White has been this year. The 276 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: way that Josh Woods and Chris Barnes stepped up Sunday 277 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 3: was a true testament to how those two players and 278 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: the coaching staff gets everybody prepared. Chris Barnes and Josh 279 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: Woods had a battle in training camp, and Woods ended 280 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: up winning that battle and getting that playing time earning that, 281 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: and Barnes continued to work and prepare the way he 282 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: needed to. He had a crucial interception just outside the 283 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: end zone and had a forty six yard return, which 284 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: was impressive, and Woods ended up with the green down 285 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: on his helmet, which is where the plays call in 286 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: and come in and he's calling the defense and he's 287 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: relaying that information, and Rawless kind of talked about in 288 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: his press conference. It was something that I brought up 289 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: with Woods in the sideline exchange interview of the linebacker's 290 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: practice with the speakers, But it's different in a game. 291 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: And when I was asking Josh Woods about those in 292 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: game adjustments and how he was having to adapt, he 293 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: started laughing and he said, I was not expecting to 294 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: be as out of breath as I was. Like, you 295 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't think that, but when you're already tired from the 296 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: previous play and now you're having to focus on what's 297 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: coming in and you're having to relay it, and then 298 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: guys don't hear it or they have a question and 299 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: you're having to echo it. He's like, man, I was 300 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: so out of breath, And I said, did you go 301 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: and say anything to Kayzier like, hey, I really didn't 302 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: know what you go through. He goes, yeah, I went 303 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: and apologize for all the times he's had to echo 304 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: these plays because I did not know what it takes. 305 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: XAVI and Collins brought that up when he had that 306 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: green dot, and yeah, you're exhausted because it's the physical. 307 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: It's also you're thinking at the same time, making sure 308 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: all ten of your teammates know exactly what's going on, 309 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: and then trying to diagnose if you have to make 310 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: a check. So it is not easy. But yeah, Josh 311 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: Woods now becomes your guy on that defense. And again 312 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: sideline exchange up on asycardinals dot Com this week ahead 313 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: a Cardinal and rams. Also during the open portion of practice, 314 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: it was good to see Jonathan Ledbetter back on the field, 315 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: considering how many hits to that defensive line. Carlos Watkins, LJ. 316 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Collier now Lucky Foto gonna miss at least the next 317 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: four games with the hand injury. Hopefully he's able to 318 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: come back, don't know for sure with six games left 319 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: to go. But someone who's going into his free agent 320 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: year free agency but had been playing very well, you 321 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: hate to see that. Didn't see Kevin Strong out there. 322 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: He's been bothered by a n The issue has played, 323 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: but it's been bothered by a knee issue. And then 324 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton, which we know on that interception hurt is groin. 325 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: He wasn't out there during the open portion of practice. 326 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about the Hamilton injury than i am 327 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: about Kevin Strong. But bottom line is Ledbetter is the 328 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: big not surprise, it's the big welcome back moment on defense. 329 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and at least for my eyes, this was the 330 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: first time in many, many weeks since that hand er 331 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: thumb and injury that Ledbetter had that he didn't have 332 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: anything on his hand at practice. It's unfortunate because the 333 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: injuries have really just hit two rooms, the defensive line, 334 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: and all at once was the safeties. You had Garrett 335 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: Williams who was rehabbing, and an Jalen Thompson and Buddha 336 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: Baker about dealing with hamstring injuries at the same time. 337 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: It's unfortunate because I feel like, from what we have 338 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: seen from this d line, if they were able to 339 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: have been healthy the way that Carlos Watkins and LJ. 340 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: Caldier were playing the game, that lucky Fotu was having 341 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: before he got hurt. You might really be onto something 342 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: with that D line. Now, would it help in the 343 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: future to bolster that right, get more run stuffers and 344 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: those type of players. Absolutely, It's just unfortunate because I 345 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: feel like we've seen parts of the defense as players 346 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: come back and are healthy. Where Okay, when you've got 347 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: Kaiser White, Josh Woods, Buddha Baker, Jyalen Thompson, Garrett Williams, Right, 348 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 3: when you have those key guys, that defense looks different. 349 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: And I feel like if you had a healthy D line, 350 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 3: we would continue to be impressed with how this defense 351 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: has exceeded expectations. 352 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: Top ten in sacks, top five and tackles for loss. 353 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: That's where this Cardinals defense is going into Week twelve, 354 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: and the sack total thirty two, it's the eighth most 355 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: in the league. That's wild to me and tied even 356 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: more wild, tied for the second highest total enfranchise history 357 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: through eleven games. Really, and you do not have that 358 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: prototypical edge rusher that stands out on film or is 359 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: the opponent's number one reason to defend. You have twelve 360 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: I believe eleven or twelve different players with at least 361 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: a half sack and the highest total is five, and 362 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: that's by Dennis Gardek. He's your leading sack artist with five, 363 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Bjo Julari with four, Victor d. Mucage with four, So 364 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: you're getting it spread across the board. But that number 365 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: of thirty two, because that was a huge concern going 366 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: into this offseason, would you be able to get a 367 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: consistent pass rush. I don't know if it's been as 368 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: consistent as you would like it to be, but the 369 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: numbers back it up saying yeah, it has been. Although 370 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're watching it's like, why aren't they getting 371 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: it more? And that you kind of want You always 372 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: want more. At the same time, without that big name, 373 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: whether that's on the d line or linebackers, you're still 374 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: affecting the quarterback. 375 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: It's been very impressive what those two groups have done 376 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: with the personnel, with the injuries that they faced. I 377 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: do think those are top spots that this front office 378 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: is probably really going to attack, either in the draft 379 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: or free agency. But it has been a good sign 380 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: of the types of players you have and what this 381 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: coaching staff is doing in terms of scheme and getting 382 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: their players ready. From what you have seen so far 383 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: this season. 384 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball on offense, during 385 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: the open portion of practice, no Michael Wilson still dealing 386 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: with that shoulder issue, though Zach Pasco and Amari de Mercado 387 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: were practicing. Pascal missed last week with a hamstring and 388 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: de Mercado has missed the past couple of weeks with 389 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: a tow The concern though for me is Wilson because 390 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: he didn't practice and then he was listed as questionable 391 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back, came back to practice, played, 392 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: then this past week limited, did not practice on Friday 393 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: ahead of the game against the Texans, did not dress 394 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: and according to the head coach Jonathan Gannon, yes it's 395 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: a shoulder injury, but he termed it as a somewhat 396 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: new injury. Wouldn't get into details. And we know injuries 397 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: really cost Michael Wilson his college career as far as 398 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: being that consistent threat. And we got spoiled with a 399 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: rookie coming in and having such an immediate impact within 400 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: this offense. And now at the end of the season 401 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: or towards the end of the season, all of a sudden, 402 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: you don't see number fourteen on the football field, because 403 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: I do think it plays a factor in what we 404 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: didn't see on Sunday against the Texans as far as 405 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: what this offense looks like. When you have a Michael 406 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Wilson or a taller wide. 407 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: Receiver, absolutely you just you don't have that size. The 408 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: next wide receiver of size is Zach Pascal, and they're 409 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: just not the same. One. They're not the same size, 410 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: and two they're not the same type of receiver. The 411 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: throws could have been better. I think back to that 412 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown interception. If you had somebody with the size 413 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: of Michael Wilson, would that have ended differently? Those are 414 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: the types of plays where I feel like you miss him. 415 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: I feel like Wilson's done a good job in the 416 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: blocking game as well. When Gannon said it was sort 417 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: of a new deal, I took it as it's because 418 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: he said it's the same area, but it's a new injury. 419 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: So I guess not the same injury, but maybe because 420 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 3: that same spot was healing, maybe he hurt something that 421 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: he might have otherwise not. I didn't really know what 422 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 3: much more to make of that, but that is a 423 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: huge loss if you don't if you don't have Wilson out. 424 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: There, and I'm not exactly sure whether Wilson will be 425 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: available this week, just based off what this team has 426 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: done with the practice squad in terms of finding a 427 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: taller wide receiver. These were the moves that have been 428 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: made so far this week. When it comes to wide receiver, 429 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: Davion Davis released, he's five foot eleven. They have signed 430 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: six foot three Daniel Aarrius, who has been on and 431 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: off this team for a while, and then a brand 432 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: new veteran most recently with the Vikings practice squad, and 433 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: that is Dan Senna Chessina. I think I got that 434 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: pronounced for correctly, sure, And he's another tall wide receiver 435 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: six foot three. So you look at what the team 436 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: does for the practice squad to see who might be 437 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: able to be elevated the day before and if you're 438 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: looking for someone who has that size, might be more 439 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: of a Daniel Aris because he's more familiar with the offense. 440 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: But that is something that we saw on Sunday and 441 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: that he didn't have anyone that was over six feet 442 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. Drey McBride and Jeff Swain and 443 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: Elijah Higgins, those were your only quote unquote tall pass catchers. 444 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: I will say, though, if you're gonna have short receivers, 445 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: they need to be quick. That's what the Cardinals have 446 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: Greg dortch Rondo Moore who got opened on that forty 447 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: eight yard bomb of a touchdown on the opening drive. 448 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown has a speed. So it's not like you 449 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: don't have anything because you don't have size. It will 450 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: be interesting this offseason when you have a good amount 451 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: of receivers who are currently in contract years with this 452 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: new staff of who do you bring back? Are you 453 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: going to prioritize size? Is that going to be noticeable 454 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: in the draft? Something to keep our eye on. 455 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: One of the big question though within that conversation is 456 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and something that we discussed multiple times in 457 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: the offseason. Is he a number one wide receiver? At 458 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: the time, I didn't think he was. Could he become one? Sure, 459 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: he is won this season by default almost yet we 460 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: see him every single day, and I do think he 461 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: has kind of become a number one wide receiver. But 462 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: around the league, just by the numbers, if you don't 463 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: watch Hollywood every single day, or at least every single game, 464 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: every play, his numbers, Danny are not good at all. Yeah, 465 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: he leads the team in receptions, receiving yards, and receiving touchdowns, 466 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: but he ranks thirty second in catches, forty third in yards, 467 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: and seventy third in yards per catch. That to me 468 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: is not a number one wide receiver. 469 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: Here's what's hard about that for me is the first 470 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: half of the season it was clear that the chemistry 471 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: or communication or maybe it was more on the accuracy 472 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: with Josh Dobbs wasn't really there. Hollywood was thrown out 473 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: of bounds, he was overthrown, he was underthrown. I think 474 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: that affects the numbers of if he had a quarterback 475 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: like Kyler Murray to start the season, I think his 476 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: numbers will look different. But I say that and Kyler 477 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: Murray's been back and for whatever reason, it just hasn't 478 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: worked with hollyood Brown. It doesn't feel like Kyler is 479 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: forcing it to his bff, which I appreciate. WHI Kyler 480 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: talked about actually to the media of you know, I 481 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: want to get in the ball, but I'm not going 482 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: to force it if that's not what's open, which is 483 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: a good answer, but it is interesting of is it 484 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 3: just because the looks that they've really been giving Hollywood 485 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: Brown have been those deep balls, right, and those are 486 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 3: just harder to hit. I'm not really sure, but we 487 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: haven't seen that duo this year through two games like 488 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: we thought we would. 489 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: If you had told me that Hollywood Brown would have 490 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: been held to just three catches on nine targets in 491 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: two games with Kyler Murray, I would have laughed at you. 492 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what has happened. And that was something 493 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: that the expectation with Kyler coming back was Okay, Well, 494 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, Hollywood Brown has a quarterback 495 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: who is more accurate, can throw the deep ball with accuracy, 496 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: and those connections can be made. It hasn't happened. Trey 497 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: McBride was the number one target the first game. Greg 498 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: Dortsch was the number one target this second game. You 499 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: don't want to force it to Hollywood yet the same time, 500 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: if you are that number one wide receiver, that I 501 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: would and I would only say, there are a handful 502 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: across the league. It's hard to find that number one 503 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver to where you just throw the ball his 504 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: direction because he's just better than whomever is defending them. 505 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: There are very few of those out there. But most 506 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: of those are six feet or taller and they have 507 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: the length, they have the size, and Hollywood just doesn't 508 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: have that. Not to say he can't be a good receiver, 509 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: he just might not be your number one option in 510 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: an offense. 511 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: Right, And again, maybe that's something that they target next year. 512 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Now. 513 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: I do think Hollywood could be one of those one A, 514 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: one B receivers where you find someone that really compliment 515 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 3: him and forced defenses to defend both players and really 516 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: let Hollywood shine. You're right though, in the past, there 517 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: have been number one receivers that have really demanded the 518 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: ball regardless of the situation, in a way that Hollywood 519 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: Brown does not. I don't mean down the field, I 520 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: mean like verbally demanding the ball. 521 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that we have been doing. 522 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: Which is a good thing, by the way, That's what 523 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: I'm yeah. 524 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: But despite the numbers, which would be a heck of 525 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot better if the two throws against the Rams 526 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles had been connected between Dobbs and Hollywood, 527 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: even the ones by Kyler Murray. Yet we haven't heard 528 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: anything negative public or private from Hollywood. He has been 529 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: the ultimate professional and the ultimate teammate. No matter whom 530 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback is throwing him the football. And that's from 531 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: his own words and then also from his teammates and 532 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: his coaches as well. 533 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 3: There is a reason the players who are still in 534 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 3: the locker room with this new staff are still in 535 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: this locker room. And that's a great example. 536 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: Why this front office, this coaching staff is figuring out 537 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: who they can win with and win the right way. 538 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: That culture fits not only on the field, but off 539 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: the field as well. And there might not be a 540 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: better example than Buddha Baker. And one Wednesday, for the 541 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: fourth straight year, which I did not know until I 542 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: read it on Easycardinals dot com, Buddha Baker the Cardinals 543 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: nominee for the NFL's Art Rooney Sportsmanship Award. Fourth straight 544 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: season He's been nominated and you can see why, because well, 545 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: he plays the game the right way, respects the game, 546 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: respects his teammates, and respects his opponents. 547 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: How many times we have to say different ways that 548 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: Buddha Baker is the ultimate pro. He is the type 549 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: of player, type of person you want on the field, 550 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: you want in the locker room, you want representing your organization, 551 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: representing your community. He truly is everything you would want 552 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: in a player, and I love that there's the opportunity 553 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: for players on each team to be recognized for that, 554 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: especially in a year where Buddha was hurt. That was 555 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: the most he's missed in a season in his career, 556 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: Especially in a year where the team has two wins. 557 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: It's not easy to still conduct yourself the same way 558 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: day in and day out, the way that he does, 559 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: the way that earned him that respect in that title. 560 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: By the way, not only that on Wednesday, but Sunday 561 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: his one hundredth career game for Buddha Baker, so a 562 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: typically cap to him. Hopefully the Cardinals can get a 563 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: win over the Rams, and that will be the first 564 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: time Buddha has faced the Rams this season. And I 565 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: did not know. I did not remember this until I 566 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: read it earlier. Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson, Kyler Murray, and 567 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: James Connor all missed the first meeting against the Rams 568 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: in weeks two. How much is that going to be 569 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: the difference between what was a twenty six to nine 570 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: loss to perhaps a Cardinals win on Sunday and back 571 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: to back home wins for the first time since twenty 572 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: twenty one. 573 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. Was all the injuries that 574 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: this team was dealing with. I mean, look what I 575 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: think back to that first matchup in week six. I 576 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: think about the fact that LA had no exaggeration, maybe 577 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: ten rushing yards in the first half, and you come 578 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: out and open the second half with nine straight run 579 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: plays and ended on a touchdown pass to Cooper Cup. 580 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the halftime adjustments made by LA were drastic. 581 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: So that is that has to be key for this 582 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: defense is stopping the run. And when you have those 583 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: players that were not there Jalen Thompson, Budda Baker in 584 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 3: the secondary, that's going to make life more difficult if 585 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: you are able to stop the run. But you've got 586 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 3: those guys defending for you. 587 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: And at what point that first meeting would a Buddha 588 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: Baker just put the foot down and said, no, this 589 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: is not happening anymore. You can't continuously run over us 590 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: through us and do something about it. And I don't 591 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: know if there was someone on that defensive side in 592 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: week six, but now you have not one but two 593 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: guys on that field this week in week twelve. 594 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: And Jalen Thompson's coming off a great game, had his 595 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: first career sack in five years. And I know that 596 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: it's a loss, so you can only take so much 597 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: from it. But the halftime adjustments made by Arizona's defense 598 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: was impressive. I mean, you're gonna give up three hundred 599 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: total yards in the first half, that's not great. The 600 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: fact that you gave up three hundred and eight total 601 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 3: passing yards, you can't do that. But the fact that 602 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: at least at halftime Arizona got their act together and 603 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: held Houston to just eighty six total yards, zero points, 604 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: two of your three interceptions. You still have to be 605 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: impressed with those types of changes made. 606 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Can't spot a team twenty one points in the first half, 607 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: but if that's what you hold them to, twenty one 608 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: points in a game, that should not beat you nine 609 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: times out of ten more times than not, though it 610 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: has beaten the Cardinals just because the offense hasn't held 611 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: up its end. Hopefully here game two for Kyler Murray 612 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: at home. Third game. Overall, we see a little bit 613 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: more of a a more of a fluid operation, and 614 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: more of what we saw in that first game than 615 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: what we saw last week in Houston. And then just 616 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: how does Kyler respond after a bad game that he 617 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: thought he had and not being able to finish that 618 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: given the chances the defense gave the offense. 619 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: That was why Kyler sat in his uniform for thirty 620 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: minutes postgame, just kind of sitting there taking it all in. 621 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: I think he took that game pretty hard. Also, on Sunday, 622 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: they're all gonna look pretty pretty sleek, Craig, everyone's gonna 623 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: look pretty nice down on the field. 624 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were talking about in the press box, 625 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: because we always look nice in the press box. Sure, Oh, 626 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about the players in uniform. Yes, we're in 627 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 1: the black. 628 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: Yes. I forgot until Wednesday's practice when they were practicing 629 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: in those black helmets. 630 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: Helmets look nice, especially when it's shimmering in the sun 631 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: or obviously in the stadium lights. It looks good. 632 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see those. 633 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: By the way, Before we end this pre Thanksgiving edition 634 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: of Cardinals cover two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of 635 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, it wasn't just Buddha Baker who received 636 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: an honor this week. Our very own Danny Sirek received 637 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: an honor as well. 638 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, what did she receive an honor for Oh, you're. 639 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: Gonna make someone very very unhappy by not remembering. Do 640 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: you not have in your position? Oh? Okay, all right, 641 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: trying to explain this because it is unusual, But we 642 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: have a dinosaur. 643 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: A small dinosaur that has a Cardinal's jersey and a. 644 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: Helmet and a helmet so it's dressed in Cardinals care 645 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: and year or two. 646 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: And it's not like a stuffed animal. 647 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: It's like it's a hard ceramic yes, dinosaur. Don't throw anyone, Danny, 648 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: unless you've already have Please, don't throw it at anyone. But 649 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: it's become something where we give out a weekly award 650 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: within the department, and you were selected for your hard 651 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: work not only for the week going into week eleven, 652 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: but is your overall work this entire year at least 653 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: according to our team illustrator Chad Burns, Chad. 654 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: Who first of all is one of the nicest human 655 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: beings I've had the pleasure of ever interacting with and 656 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 3: is incredibly talented, had this written out, not on his phone, 657 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: on paper, a written out speech about why he felt 658 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: I deserved the dinosaur that week, which was caught me 659 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 3: by surprise. I was very honored. He had really great 660 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: things to say. One of the things he did say 661 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 3: was that Chad is a loyal listener and viewer of 662 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: our podcasts, of our Morning Scramble Live show, and Chad 663 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: and his speech said that I am not afraid in 664 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: a good way to have an opinion and to stick 665 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: up for it. And all of a sudden, I hear 666 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 3: something from somebody behind me where I'm sitting in our 667 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: studio at the meeting, saying, yeah, that's true. When I 668 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: turn around and lo and behold, it was Craig. 669 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: I believe my quote was all second. 670 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: That I'm not going to tell on the podcast what 671 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 3: I said in response to you, because I'm trying to 672 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: keep my image. But I am very grateful. I'm thankful 673 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: that Chad decided to give me with the dinosaur this week. 674 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: In hindsight, we should have had it filmed because I'm 675 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: sure the Direct family would have loved to have seen it. 676 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 3: They don't know about the dinosaur. 677 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: That's they don't know about. Immediately pick up the phone 678 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: and call mom and dad and brag about the dinosaur. 679 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: I didn't, but maybe I will after this. 680 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, congratulations. See now the pressure's on Danny. 681 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: Because who am I going to pick next? 682 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: Dad has set the bar for now. 683 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: Start complimenting me, Craig. You think if you want the dinosaur? 684 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that's one way. 685 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: To be nice to you. Yeah, okay, I guess I 686 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: need to work on that. 687 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: Just something to consider. Okay, are you what are you 688 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: doing for Thanksgiving? Are you cooking? 689 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm helping? 690 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: Okay, helping? That's good? 691 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Is that good? 692 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: Yes? What's your favorite dish? 693 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: Stuffing do you do? 694 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 3: I don't really know the difference dressing and stuffing? Do 695 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: you do where you cook but you cook yours in 696 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: the turkey or both? 697 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: We've done it both. It's I don't know. I don't 698 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: think there is a difference, but I'm trying to remember which. 699 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: I think stuffing you technically have to put it in 700 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: the turkey. Maybe I'm wrong, but they're all the same 701 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 3: to me. But that's that's a good dish to like. 702 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: You're going to watch. 703 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: Football, absolutely, three games. 704 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: I love it. 705 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a college football game on as well, 706 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 1: but I don't care about that. It's just three football games. 707 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel. 708 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: They're spread out, so you got nothing to do but 709 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: watch football and family. 710 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: Unless you're Jonathan Gannon because I asked, because he said 711 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 3: he's send everybody home Thursday. I said, do you watch football? 712 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: He said, no, I'm going to eat and ketchup on sleep. 713 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: I'll eat. I don't know about the sleep part, but 714 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: I'll eat as well. 715 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 3: You might sleep if you're eating turkey. All that trip 716 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 3: to Fane is going to make you sleepy. 717 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: I got to get through the third game, which is 718 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks and forty nine Ers. So that's that's kind of 719 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: the big game of the three, at least for us 720 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: within the NFC West. 721 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: Are you gonna do Black Friday shopping? Are you gonna 722 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 3: camp out anywhere? Go get some deals? 723 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: Be here? 724 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: Friday's a workday. Oh. 725 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: I want to telling you. If you decided not to 726 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 3: show up, Darren will never know the difference. 727 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we gotta be nice to Danny because she 728 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: has the dinosaur. But I will be here at work 729 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: in case Darren is listing as well. I don't know 730 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: how long I'll be. 731 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: At work, but I'll be at work on Friday. 732 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 733 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: This edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, probably 734 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals As always, special thanks to 735 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Amahundra, our associate producer Coddy Fincher 736 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 1: for Danny Sirek. I'm Craig Rayellou. Happy Thanksgiving, berg Gang. 737 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.