1 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: in Verio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: you by Bally beck Now Live in Ohio on a 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: Nathan Segura. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, and welcome in. As Cleveland brown Daily's Best 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: of a week continues, and as always, it's brought to 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: you by Bally Betta, sports betting partner of your Cleveland 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: Browns Now Live in Ohio. All Right, our hot topics 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: as always presented by University Hospitals, and on today's show, 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: we're going to take a look at some of the 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: familiar faces, guys who opted free agents, veterans who opted 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: to come back. We'll take talk to a young player 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: looking to take a big leap in their second season 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: after a very strong finish to their rookie campaign, and 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: then a couple of Brown's legends who announced their retirement 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: from the National Football League. We had exclusive interviews with them. So, 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: as we talked about earlier, there are new faces. There 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: are the new rookies. There are the new coaches. There 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: are the new draft picks. All of that, the new 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: free agents that have been brought in the veterans. All 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: of those things changed the fabric of a team. But 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: when the core remains and there is an absolute culture 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: built and a joy to be a part of it, 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: that is when you know you have something fairly special. 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: And I would say to you guys today, you're gonna 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: get the opportunity to hear from some of the veterans 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: on this football team who decided to come back. You're 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: gonna hear from guys who hung up their cleats on 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: what it meant to them to be a Cleveland Brown 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: And then we're gonna hear also from a young player 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: looking to ascend in his second season. But that's where 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: it all begins. And you talk about a room that 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: is very, very special for the Cleveland Browns, there is 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind that the defensive line room 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: is one of the most special in the entire NFL, 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: not just here for the Cleveland Browns, but in the 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: entire National Football League. And it's a room in which 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: there is immense talent. You got the reigning defensive Player 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: of the Year, Miles Garrett. You've got Obo Okaranquo, who 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: had a very nice season in his first year with 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns with four and a half sacks and 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: twelve tackles for a loss. You got Alex Wright going 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: into his third year now, who finished the year with 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: five sacks, including a sack in four straight games to 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: end the year. So you had the makings of a 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: good room. Not to mention Isaiah Maguire, last year's fourth 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: round pick, who had a sack in his one start 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: a year ago. So what would you do? You could 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: be good in that room, but you wanted to bring 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: Zadaria Smith back. And I remember, you don't beat the 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers without Zadaria Smith running down a screen to 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: Jalen Warren. Zadarias Smith played through a back injury last 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: year and his numbers were not where they had been. 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: He had three straight years of double digits. Last year 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: only five and a half sacks, But he felt like 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: he had unfinished business and he wanted to come back. 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: And so Zadaria Smith, the three time pro bowler, a 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: guy who had thirteen and a half sacks in twenty nineteen, 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: twelve and a half sacks in twenty twenty, ten sacks 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, wanted to come back and You're 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: gonna hear from him in our next segment why it 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: was so important to him to come back and be 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: a part of the twenty twenty four Cleveland Browns. He 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: had opportunities to go elsewhere, but he said, no, I 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: want to come back here with the Cleveland Browns. And 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: not only did he say that in that defensive line room, 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: so did Shelby Harris. Shelby Harris another veteran who had 69 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: a very productive year. Five passes defense. He had one 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: and a half sacks on the season, He blocked some kicks. 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: He did it all for the Cleveland Browns. He wanted 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: to come back. This is a guy who's been in 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: this league since twenty fourteen. He is entering his tenth 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: season in the National Football League. He wanted to be 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: a part of what the Cleveland Browns were doing. Again, 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna hear from those two guys why it meant 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 2: so much to them to come back and why they 78 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: love that defensive line room. But they're not the only ones. Mowhurst. 79 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: The Browns gave Mohurst a shot last year and all 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: he did was respond with an unbelievable season. He had 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: the big man interception up there in Seattle one and 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: a half sacks on the year and was just part 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: of that defensive line rotation where they were able to 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: continually get after quarterbacks, harassed quarterbacks, stay fresh. Mowhurst he 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: wanted to come back, and he's going to tell you 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: why he wanted to be back in that defensive line 87 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: room with his brothers. I mean, you think about it. 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 2: You've got your top five defensive ends are all back 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: from a year ago. You've got three of your four 90 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: defensive top defensive tackles from a year ago back, not 91 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: to mention Siaki Eco, who you hope takes a leap 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: in his second year. And then you used a second 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: round pick on Mike call Junior. Oh yeah, and you 94 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: brought in Quentin Jefferson, who we talked about, who has 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: eleven and a half sacks the last two seasons. So 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: these rooms are absolutely loaded, and they wanted it that way. 97 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: They wanted to run it back. So you're gonna hear 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: from them. Then we're gonna go into the safety room 99 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: for a second, and we're gonna have two varying perspectives. 100 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna have Ronnie Hickman, the undrafted free agent out 101 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: of the Ohio State University, who had to take over 102 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: as the Browns starting free safety down the stretch last year, 103 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: and all he did was have one of the biggest 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 2: plays of the season, a pick six to get things 105 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: started against the Jets on Thursday night in the game 106 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: that clinched the playoffs for the Cleveland Browns. It was 107 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: Ronnie Hickman's thirty yard catch and run pick six interception 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: that really got that going. So he had to step 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: into a massive role and he did that. And so 110 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: you hear what that season was like for him, going 111 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: from being undrafted to being a starter and start a 112 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: playoff game for the Cleveland Browns. And then on the 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: other side of the coin, he had Rodney McLoud whose 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: season was cut short due to a biceps injury. But 115 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: he's a former Super Bowl champion and he knew that 116 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: there was something special going on here in Cleveland. He 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: knew that he had unfinished business, This team had unfinished business. 118 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: He wanted to be back with Jim Schwartz. He wanted 119 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: to be back with Grant Delpit and Juan Thornhill and 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: Ronnie Hickman and d Anthony Bell in that safety room 121 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: and coach Bonda, who we love so much on the program, 122 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: and he talks to us in this second hour of 123 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: this program today to kick it off right at two o'clock. 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: It is a long interview because he really got deep 125 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: into what this football team meant to him, why he 126 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: thought that they were robbed of the season they all 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: thought they were going to have coming out of that 128 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens game, the big win over Baltimore where Sean 129 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: went fourteen for fourteen, and there was belief amongst guys 130 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: who had already won Super Bowls here that this team 131 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: could be the first Super Bowl champion here in Cleveland. 132 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: And so Rodney McLeod is going to give you great 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: perspective on what it means to be a pro, what 134 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: he felt like it meant to be a Cleveland Brown. 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: After being a guy who's been very successful with the Rams, 136 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl with Jim Schwartz and the Philadelphia Eagles, 137 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: being with the Colts, he has been a consummate pro, 138 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: and he tells you why he wanted to be back 139 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Brown. So our number one is going 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: to be Zadarius and Shelby together, highly entertaining. Then you 141 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: get Ronnie Hickman, and then we get to close out 142 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: our number one with the first of our two special interviews, 143 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: and the first is with Hollywood Higgins. Hollywood Higgins, back 144 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: a fifth round pick of the Browns back in twenty sixteen, 145 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: had that magical season in twenty and eighteen, and he 146 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: had five seventy two and four touchdowns twenty twenty five, 147 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: ninety nine and four. So when you think of some 148 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: of those great times of really kind of turning this 149 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: around when Baker Mayfield was the quarterback, Hollywood Higgins, the 150 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: picture of them in that Monday Thursday night game against 151 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: the Jets, strutting in the end zone after the trick play, 152 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: the Philly Special or the reverse Philly Special. Hollywood Higgins 153 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: was a part of all of that. And he's a 154 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: guy who could ever forget the red carpet celebration. Walk 155 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: in the red carpet. You remember the touchdown in Tennessee. 156 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: Baker comes rolling into the picture after a long touchdown 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: to Hollywood Higgins. He just had a certain zest for 158 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: the game, a zest for being a Cleveland Brown, and 159 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: decided to call it a career, and he came here 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: to Cleveland to retire as a Brown and joined Cleveland 161 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: Brown's Daily That was back on April the eighteenth, and 162 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: it was a very special day to have Hollywood in 163 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: his family here and so you're going to get to 164 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: hear from him. I should let you know. The interviews 165 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: was Zadarius and Shelby Harris that went down on March fourteenth, 166 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: right after they re signed with the Cleveland Browns. Ronnie 167 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: Hickman called in May the thirteenth as the Browns were 168 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 2: in the midst of OTAs getting ready for the twenty 169 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: twenty four season. And then we had Higgins there two 170 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: o'clock hour, Rodney McLeod from March twenty fifth, right after 171 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 2: he decided to come back to the Cleveland Browns, Maurice 172 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: Hurst on three point fifteen talking about his contract extension. 173 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: And then our final segment and this is one that'll 174 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: hit you right in the fields. Former Walter Payton Man 175 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: of the Year nominee for the Cleveland Browns, Christian Kirksey, 176 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: who has what a career Christian Kirksey had had. When 177 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: you are drafted in the National Football League, if you 178 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: make it out of your first contract, you have really 179 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: accomplished something. The former third rounder out of Iowa, he 180 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: would go on to play through the twenty twenty two season, 181 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: going with the Browns, then to Green Bay, and then 182 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: to Houston. Nine years in the National Football League, seven 183 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy eight tackles, forty five tackles for a lost, 184 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: sixteen and a half sacks he had in his career 185 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: interceptions for forced fumbles. Christian Kirksey not only a very 186 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: very good player, but one of the great guys that 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: you will ever meet. And to have him be able 188 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: to have that opportunity to come back to Cleveland, to 189 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: retire a Cleveland Brown where he spent the first five 190 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: first six years of his career was just awesome. And 191 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: he's a guy. He's gonna get you some emotion how 192 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: his life has changed, what it meant to him to 193 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: be a Brown, what it meant to him to get 194 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: that second contract with the Cleveland Browns from that twenty 195 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: fourteen class, him and Joel Batonio in that class together. 196 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: You know, it didn't work out for the first rounders, 197 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: to say the least, but the second and the third 198 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: rounders certainly did very well in Joel Botonio and Christian Kirksey. 199 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: So that's what we have for you. Today, you're gonna 200 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: get a sense of culture, what it means to be 201 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: a Cleveland Brown, Veterans who want to come back, young 202 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: players looking to ascend. And then two guys who wore 203 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: the Brown and Orange for multiple seasons deciding they wanted 204 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: to end their careers as Cleveland Brown's and hang it 205 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: up in Hollywood Higgins and Christian Kirksey. So Zadarius and Shelby, 206 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: They're up next, followed by Ronnie Hickman, followed by Hollywood Higgins, 207 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: followed by Rodney McLeod, Maurice Hurst, and finally Christian Kirksey. 208 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: All Right, we are often running here on this edition 209 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: of Cleveland brown Daily, brought to you by Bally Betta, 210 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Brown's now live in 211 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Ohio and as always only on eight p fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 212 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily front to you by Bally bet now 213 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 214 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: Welcome back into this special edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. 215 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: Charcoal Ball here for my friends at Jim Beam. 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Let's run it back, right, That's 225 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: what it was. 226 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: You had to get the gang back together. 227 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 5: You already know. 228 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and think about Zadarius in your room. I mean 229 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: it is literally the gang back together. Miles, you, Alex Obo, 230 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: Isaac Isaiah. I mean you got the whole crew back together. 231 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: Have you had that before where you've gone like five 232 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: straight guys back to back seasons? 233 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 5: I never had that in my career football, Nope, never had. 234 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: So this is going to be something special to running 235 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: back like this. 236 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: And I saw you're seeing Mo down there, and see 237 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: you and Mo and Siaki and Dalvin bringing that back 238 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: as well. Was that something that was important to you? 239 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, just to be with the same guys 240 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 4: that we had last year. We all had a real 241 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: good chemistry and you know, we played really well off 242 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: each other. So it was just it was really important 243 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 4: to be with these guys. 244 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you guys go into a situation like this, 245 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: it could be potentially free agency. 246 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 5: Again. 247 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys said now before we're gonna we're gonna 248 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: come back to Cleveland. What was kind of the deciding 249 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: factor for for either of you? 250 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: I feel like because it was the start of something special, 251 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 5: you know, to get as far as we did this 252 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 5: past year. You know, we had a lot of injuries, yeah, 253 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: and still made it to the playoffs. Man, So that's 254 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: how you know this team is special. And I just 255 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 5: want to continue to you know, finish my career and 256 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 5: play the rest of my years here in Cleveland. 257 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. I just think I just think that it's just 258 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: you don't get these type of locker rooms very often 259 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: the league, where everybody's cool, everybody that's along everything, everyone's 260 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: like brothers. And so, you know, even with all the 261 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: injuries and stuff, how successful we were last year, Uh, 262 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: you know, you can't turn down the opportunity to be 263 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: back with this group. It's just when you enjoy going 264 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 4: to work every day, and you know, you enjoy being 265 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: around the people that you work with every. 266 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 5: Day, you know, it's. 267 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 4: You know, and even no matter how annoying any of 268 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: the dudes may be, but you know, at the end 269 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: of the day, like that's that's important, Like you know, 270 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 4: it's just it makes your life a lot easier, a 271 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: lot happier when you enjoy what you're doing and who 272 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 4: you're doing it with. 273 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell the people who are they didn't 274 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: get the the privilege of hearing you guys banter back 275 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: and forth for about ten minutes before we started this, 276 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: But you guys clearly enjoy being together, and it sounds 277 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: like there's a good give and take, a little friendly banter, 278 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: some jousting. 279 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 4: I didn't listen at all, man, you know what I mean, 280 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: Like they over be bothering me over here, not answering 281 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: nobody's phone calls and stuff. 282 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: That's no so it's crazy. He called me. I actually 283 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 5: changed my number because I always changed my number, I 284 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: think every two years. But he was trying to call me, 285 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: couldn't get in test with me, so he hit me 286 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 5: up on Instagram. I'm like, hey, I thought we was 287 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 5: taking a d line trip. 288 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 4: We were supposed to, but of course nobody ever want 289 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: to show up to anything, so. 290 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 5: Well, you know who have to pay for that, right, 291 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 5: Miles gp O y Miles, that's right, he's paying for 292 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: the trip. 293 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 2: The reigning defensive player of the Year exactly. Why not 294 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: he's doing He's doing just fine for himself. Yeah, he's 295 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: doing himself. Speaking of trips, you guys got anything coming. 296 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: Up, please don't ask you but for myself, but for myself. 297 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 5: I got a chance to take my family to uh 298 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: kon Mexico. It was something, you know, quick and short 299 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 5: because my family, you know, they ain't want to be 300 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: gone from home too long. But I think that was 301 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 5: one of my trips. And I'm also go to Tokyo, 302 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 5: really Tokyo. Yes, have you ever been before? Never been? 303 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 5: Never been? 304 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: What's what's the draw to? I want to go Tokyo too. 305 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: I think Japan seems fascinating. 306 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 5: Man. I just always see videos of the people on 307 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: the Mario karts. 308 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: What is it Mario karts? 309 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, like the small Mario cars downtown where. 310 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: They're rolling around. 311 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm talking about. 312 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: You might be too big, you might be too big, 313 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: might be too big for. 314 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 6: Me. 315 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 5: I just want to try it. 316 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: That's a lot, by the way, that's a long flight. 317 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: To go to getting a go. 318 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: Cart this everybody will know exactly what I'm talking about 319 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: with all seriousness. Man, just to take my family somewhere. 320 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: I actually got my son, my oldest son right now, 321 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: he's ten, so for him to be able to experience that, 322 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: it's going to be big. So yeah, yeah, to do that. 323 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: Shelby's got big plans telling everybody about I'm not telling everyone. 324 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: Everyone everyone asking, so I'm not gonna lie, but you know, 325 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: just you know, but you know, we uh we got 326 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: a big you know spring break, all these all these kids, 327 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: we have four kids, and two different spring breaks to 328 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: a week after each other. So the first week we're 329 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: going to Hundura's going to road time for for my 330 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: oldest and spring break and it's like a big family term. 331 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: My in laws are going, my brother going, So it'd 332 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: be nice. Uh even done that in a couple of years, 333 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: you know, the in law is getting older. Got to 334 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: enjoy every minute you know that you have with them. 335 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: And then the next week after that, we're going to 336 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: CanCon and we'll be there. 337 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: For a week following the footsteps. 338 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be in Cancun for a week. But then 339 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: the next month in April. I got a wedding I 340 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: gotta go to in Cabo, and then supposedly maybe for 341 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: my university of going to a visa. 342 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 5: Oh wow. So out of all the trips, he never 343 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: mentioned the D Line trip. 344 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's pretty well booked here. 345 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: I can always make time for a D Line trip. 346 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: Is just you know, the powers that being to make 347 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: the decisions. 348 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to get on the phone 349 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 5: with Mouth. 350 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 6: And what. 351 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: Aren't you guys the most senior guys. 352 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's. 353 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: Comes with that, right. 354 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 5: I got three kids. I have three kids. He has four. 355 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: Now, you guys are answering to different different masters. You guys, 356 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: you have different things that you're dealing with, their negotiations kids. 357 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: So from my standpoint, somebody wh also has kids, then 358 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: it feels like you guys say, hey, here's when we're available, 359 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: because you're always available. 360 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 5: I like it, make it work these our dates. 361 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: Time. As long as we get this tripped down before 362 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: the start of next season, it still counts. 363 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: It still counts, no doubt, no doubt. When you think 364 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: back on last season. You mentioned all the injuries, just 365 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: kind of the wild scene and I'll never forget Thursday 366 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: Night against the Jets after you win, doing the laps 367 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: around the stadium with all the fans. What do you 368 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: think back on it? Obviously didn't end the way that 369 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: you guys wanted it to end. I mean, only in 370 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: is the way one team wants it to end ultimately 371 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. But was this a pretty 372 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: special season? And really for you guys being New City right, 373 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: you for a long time had been a rival of 374 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, just like Joe Flacco with the Baltimore Ravens. 375 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: To just feel that kind of level. Was that a 376 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: special night for you guys in your. 377 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 5: Career as well? Yeah, I feel like it was for 378 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 5: me because I can say I've been in this situation 379 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 5: what six times now to be able to make it 380 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: to the playoffs and just get an opportunity and going 381 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 5: being in Baltimore, you know, getting ready to play Cleveland, like, Okay, 382 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: we're about to play Cleveland. Yeah, we're going to a 383 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 5: stack game, you know, and to come here it's really 384 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 5: not like that anymore. 385 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: You know. 386 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 5: We're taking advantage of every opportunity. And like I said, 387 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 5: it's the start of something special. It's only gonna get 388 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 5: bigger from here. 389 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 390 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: I just think it was just to be a part 391 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: of something with this fan base. And you know, everyone's 392 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: always heard about how crappy the Browns has been. 393 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 7: Let's just be honest about it, you know what I mean, 394 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 7: not anymore. 395 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 4: Well no, And that's the thing though, to be a 396 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: part of that, you know, like the changing of the guard, 397 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: to be a part of the you know, this new 398 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: Browns era. That I That's what was cool about it, 399 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean because even before the season, 400 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: like when I got here, nobody expected anything of us. 401 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: Then the minute that the Shawn went down, nobody expected 402 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 4: anything of it. Well you know, Chubbs, Like every every 403 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 4: injury that would happen, everyone's like, oh they're done, they're done, 404 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 4: calm them out. And all we kept doing was just 405 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: kind of responding, you know, every week. So you know, 406 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: that's what made it special. And then you know, just 407 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: to have the support of the fan base, you know, 408 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: and then that Alaska he said, you know, against the Jets, like, 409 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: I've never been a part of anything like that, you 410 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: know what I mean. We're like, well, after the game, 411 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: you know, you're going around high five and everybody. It's 412 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: like hanging out with the fans, like as a pro. 413 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 4: That's like a college app. 414 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: It was like a senior night in college, you know 415 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: what I mean. So it was just. 416 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: It was real special to be a part of something 417 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 4: like that and just uh and the sign back here, 418 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 4: to be a part of the growth of the Cleveland 419 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: Browns and to be able to say, like, you know, 420 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 4: we're helping you know, the ascending Browns, you know, to 421 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: take the next step. 422 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm biased at working with the storgination for so long, 423 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 2: but these fans are special. 424 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 5: What do you guys? 425 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: You guys have played in some great environments obviously in 426 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: the past, with great fan bases, But do you feel 427 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: there is something special about this city and when you 428 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: win in this city? 429 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: Yes, yes it is. Man. I was on a flight 430 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 5: last night and they put me right there in the 431 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 5: front I don't know why they put me right there 432 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 5: in the front seat. 433 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Typically a good seat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of 434 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: people would change. 435 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: It was just everybody that got on the plane, you know, 436 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 5: after me, was just just thank you, thank you, thank you, 437 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: thank you. Kids, you know, at the age of six 438 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 5: seven getting out of their seat while the plane is 439 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: in the air. Can I take a picture with you? 440 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 5: And I'm like, man, I'm just supposed to be sitting down. 441 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 5: But it's just like the fan base, man, a lot 442 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 5: of people here, man, are really truly loving the Browns. 443 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 8: Man. 444 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: That's why I'm so happy to sign back here. 445 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: Now, you guys are both family men. You have kids, 446 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: as you talked about earlier, and you talked about also rightfully. 447 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: So for a while, it was a struggle here, to 448 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 2: be perfectly fair, So there was a generation of kids 449 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: and thus fathers with their kids and mothers with their 450 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: kids who didn't get to root for a winner. And 451 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: you guys have brought something very special to this city, 452 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: and it's bringing generations of kids back for a while, 453 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: like who went to root for a team that didn't 454 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: win a game? 455 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: Right? 456 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: I Mean that's a hard it's a little bit of 457 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: a hard cell. And now to see that and you're 458 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: talking about six and seven year olds want to come 459 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: think pitch, that's that's an exciting thing. And you guys 460 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: are certainly a part of something very special in that regard. 461 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: My neighbors, like I'm talking about I think about like this, 462 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: like my whole neighborhood has like fifty kids in it, 463 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: and it's just like the excitement that the team brings 464 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 4: to the community, like everyone. You know, you can talk 465 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 4: about the Cavs, you can talk about all other teams, 466 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 4: but you know you can tell the just somebody they're 467 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: waiting for the brownser pop. That's right, you know what 468 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: I mean. It's just you know, to see how excited 469 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: that you know, families and everyone getting like when we 470 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: do good. It's just it's a motivation, you know, to 471 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: do better. And yeah, like I got to say it 472 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: is one of the better fan bases in the league 473 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: because they've been bad for so long and still here, 474 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like I'm from Milwaukee, so 475 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: our group of Packer fans, but my whole life growing up, 476 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 4: we were good. So I can only could imagine if 477 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: it was the other way around and the Packers were 478 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: terrible and then they finally got good and I was 479 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: a fan. So you know, like I feel like, you know, 480 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: the whole locker room embraces it, and you know, we 481 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: become one. 482 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 9: With the community. 483 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can say this too. When I was 484 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 5: telling you about the guys who was coming on the airplane, 485 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 5: it was one man. He was ninety years old. I 486 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: forgot his name, but hopefully he watches and see it. 487 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 5: And he was just telling me how excited he'd be 488 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: on Sundays just to wait for the Browns to come 489 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 5: on and play. He said that was his first time 490 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 5: ever feeling that way. So that was special from him, 491 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: a guy that's ninety years old. Man, We've got to 492 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: get it. 493 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: We gotta get it done for him this year. 494 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 7: We gotta get it. 495 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: So we talked about coming back. You love the locker room, 496 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: love the continuity and the group of guys you're with 497 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: in your room. One change though, obviously defensive line coach 498 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: Jaxi's there who played in the league for a long 499 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: long time, was with Houston last year. 500 00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 7: How is it? 501 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: Obviously no Obo and some of the guys down their house. 502 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: Kind of your introduction. I guys talking to him down 503 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: there into the cafe. 504 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 5: Man, it was great. I can relate to him because 505 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 5: you know, he played with nine ten years. Yeah, and 506 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: then I'm going into year ten. So that wild you know, man, 507 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: I'm not you say that, but no, it's a blessing 508 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 5: because a lot of people don't get the opportunity to 509 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 5: make it this far. Man, And just to have a 510 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: coach that played that long man to understand the game 511 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 5: and when something may go wrong in the game, he'll 512 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: be able to see it before I see it. So 513 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 5: just to have a guy like that in the building 514 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: where he came from was Texans, help produce a lot 515 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: of guys and come on, man, so we're getting something special. Man, 516 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 5: you thought you saw something last year, Wait till you 517 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 5: see this d line this year. 518 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: By the way, ten years a league, not a great hair. Congratulations, 519 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: that supposed to be a shot. 520 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: I say I'm going in the year eleven and I'll 521 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: say this, give them one more year, give them, give 522 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 4: him one more year, and we're gonna get these grades 523 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: in the beer, just like. 524 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 5: I always that. 525 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 7: Guys. 526 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: Congratulations. I'm sure you know going into free agency probably 527 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: could be somewhat where am I gonna end up? What's 528 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: it going to be like with families, all of that. 529 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: To be able to come back and know that they 530 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: wanted you back right away, you wanted to come back, 531 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: It's awesome. So welcome back, congrats and looking forward to 532 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: a big season after all of your adventures around the world, 533 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: especially yours. 534 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate it. 535 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 10: Coming up next on CBD, safety Ronnie Hickman joins the 536 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 10: show when this best of edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily returns. 537 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 10: Broncho by Bally Bett, a sports betting partner of your 538 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 10: Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio, continues on age fifty 539 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 10: ESPN Cleveland. 540 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brownsdale Front You by bally Bet Now Live in 541 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 542 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 10: BALLI, Joel and Rod Stewart together for the first time 543 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 10: ever Friday, September thirteenth, Cleveland brown Stadium. 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I'm Jason Gibbs and up next 548 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 10: on this special best of edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily, 549 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 10: it's former Buckeye and second year safety Ronnie Hickman, who 550 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 10: joins BO and Z talks about the returning pieces on 551 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 10: the Browns defense and how dangerous this team can be 552 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 10: in twenty twenty four. 553 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 3: Ronnie, thank you so much for taking the time. How 554 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: you doing, Buddy, how's everything going? 555 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me to pudge his mind. But 556 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 6: I'm doing great. We got a sunny day in Cleveland 557 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 6: here today, so I'm. 558 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: Enjoying how you using your sunny day. 559 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 6: I gotta get outside. I get some Sunday and just 560 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 6: got back from the facility, so just gotta take advantage 561 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 6: of it. 562 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: Ronnie, when you think back, you know, a year ago 563 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: at this time, what was kind of the biggest difference 564 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: when you're walking into meetings now versus when you did 565 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: a year ago as an undrafted free agent who wasn't 566 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: really sure what your role, if you would have one, 567 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: if you would make the team. What's the biggest difference 568 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: in the last you know, twelve months from that start 569 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 2: to where you are now playing some big time ball 570 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: down the stretch for the Browns. 571 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 6: Honestly, I think that level of definitely not knowing what's next, 572 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 6: but I think now for me is just a matter 573 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: of knowing or having done the things that we're doing 574 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 6: now already. So I'm doing it knowing and being able 575 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 6: to learn from everything that I did last year. So 576 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 6: that's kind of a little comforting. But you know, there's 577 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 6: still always done so in this business, so you got 578 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: to go and earner these. 579 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Deaths, no doubt. The very very wise words there From 580 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: Ronnie Hickman, entering his second season in the NFL, I 581 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: want to take you back to Thursday night the Jets, 582 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: the playoff clincher, and obviously you got things started with 583 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: the pick six. What was that moment like for you? 584 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: And now that the season's over you've been able to 585 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: reflect on just how special that was and what do 586 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: you kind of remember about that and then the reaction 587 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: of the crowd afterwards. 588 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, in the moment, you you really never 589 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 6: can never really enjoy it. It's it's when you get 590 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 6: to the sideline where you kind of can sit back 591 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 6: and kind of think about what just happened. But honestly, 592 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 6: a dream come true. I mean, any any state you're 593 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 6: playing in the game, you know, they dream of making 594 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 6: a pick and let alone being able to put some 595 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 6: points on the score for your for your team. It's 596 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 6: just the cherry on the top, I'd like to say. 597 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 6: But it was a great feeling, and honestly, feelings like that, 598 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 6: it just motivates you to get that feeling again. 599 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: You know, Ronnie, when you think about and Ze asked 600 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: you about, you know, having to prove yourself and you 601 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: look to always continue to prove yourself when you go 602 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: back a year a year ago at this time and 603 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: coming out of the draft and not being drafted. Uh, 604 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 3: if you're going to play at a place like Ohio State, 605 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: you have to have tremendous self belief. If you're gonna 606 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: get into the league, you have to have tremendous self belief. 607 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 3: When your draft came and went and and your name 608 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 3: was not called, how did you maintain that belief in 609 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: what you were capable of? And I'm a assuming just 610 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: this drive of all I need is a chance. 611 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, you definitely have to. Uh, you have to be 612 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 6: able to transfer that whatever energy you're feeling and put 613 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 6: it into into the right direction. I think, you know, 614 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 6: for myself personally, it was tough to not hear my 615 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 6: name being called. But I think my parents and my 616 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: whole support system did a great job of like kind 617 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 6: of you know, like letting me realize that, hey, you 618 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 6: still were able to, you know, make it to the 619 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 6: league and honestly speak, and once you make it through 620 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 6: that door, you are just as equal as the next man. 621 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 6: So so understanding that and then getting in the building 622 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 6: and then realizing you know, you're just playing the game 623 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 6: that you've been playing since you were five. It all 624 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 6: comes together and helps, you know, you. 625 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: Think about your career in the arka took. You obviously 626 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: had all those picks in the preseason, and then Jan 627 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: gets dinged up right out of the gate. You end 628 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: up playing early in the season and then really really 629 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: playing late in the season. What was kind of that 630 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: like preseason? Okay, I definitely belong you make the team 631 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: to playing some early, then not playing as much, and 632 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: then playing a ton down the stretch. 633 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 6: Uh, It's it's kind of just you know, I said 634 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 6: a lot, but it's just the nature of the game. 635 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 6: You know, we play a tremendously long season and with 636 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 6: that comes injury. And then back to my days at 637 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 6: Ohio State, we just to say competitive excellence, which is 638 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 6: just being ready when your numbers called, not saying that 639 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 6: I could tell you I knew it was going to 640 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 6: be called in that week, but you know, just having 641 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 6: trust in face that you know at some point you'll 642 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: get a chance to prove yourself and then going out 643 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 6: there and take advantage of the opportunity. 644 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: What was the moment And maybe it came as early 645 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: as week one because he played Week one and then 646 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: didn't play again until the game against Arizona actually into 647 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: November Week one. You've had some we're in there for 648 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: some important snaps in that window of the Cincinni Bengals. 649 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: When was the moment that you were like, Yeah, I 650 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: totally belong I can do this. 651 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 6: Honestly, the preseason, I had a really good preseason and 652 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 6: then I believe I got to I got to play 653 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 6: a little bit more meaningful snaps against the Steelers, kind 654 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 6: of laying that game, and I felt pretty comfortable out there, 655 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 6: you know, being an actual NFL season game. But I 656 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 6: kind of have that it kind of you know click, 657 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 6: you know, during the preseason and then practice and stuff 658 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 6: like that. 659 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: So we had a we had a buck Eye drafted 660 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: Mike Hall uh former teammate yours. What what can you 661 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: tell us about Mike? How excited were you to get 662 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: Mike in the fold here? If you guys have had 663 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: quite a bit of dialogue since. 664 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 6: His draft, you know, I've been I've been big on 665 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 6: on Mike ever since, you know, guys in the building 666 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 6: of asking about me about the next upcoming buck guys, 667 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 6: and I've been big on Mike since they want I mean, 668 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 6: that's the safety He's just the d tackle the guy 669 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: you want, and the trench is doing that work. And 670 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 6: I'm sure the fans will see as soon as they 671 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 6: get to watch, you know what type of the player is. 672 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 6: You know, he's a smart football player, but he brings 673 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 6: that physical nature and that and that dog mentality that 674 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 6: we need at the defense and ultimately it'll help the 675 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 6: team when. 676 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: You look around and even take your room, Rodney McLeod 677 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 2: wanted to come back. You mentioned the defensive tackle room, 678 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: Mike Call's joining a room you know, in which Shelby 679 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: Harris wanted to come back, in which Mohurst wanted to 680 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: come back, in which is the Dearrus Smith at defensive 681 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: end wanted to come back. You had a lot of 682 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: guys want to come back because of that sense of 683 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, unfinished business, that there is something special happening 684 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: here as a young player, does that or are you 685 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: able to feel that as well? When you see that 686 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: the guys that you know, perhaps you were watching in 687 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: the league, and certainly a guy like you know, Rodney 688 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: McLoud at your position that you've been watching for a 689 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: very very long time, that they wanted to come back 690 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: and be a part of it, and do you feel 691 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: like after that game in Houston that you have unfinished 692 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: business as well? 693 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think ultimately it's just a testament to the 694 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 6: culture that you know, we've built that players and that 695 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 6: coach Schwartz has implemented as OURBC and then also coach Safanski. 696 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 6: But the environment that we've built in that on the 697 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 6: defensive side speaking, it's just something that you want to 698 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 6: be a part of. And I think we're all built in, 699 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 6: and we're all wide the same way, and we know 700 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 6: what we can do and and you know, we know 701 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 6: that we haven't hit that potential. You know, we owe 702 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 6: it to the city and you know we owe it 703 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 6: to ourselves as well. 704 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: Ronnie, this is this is obviously you look around this 705 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: say see and you see all of the teams that 706 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: are out there that that view themselves as Super Bowl contenders, 707 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: that the work towards that is being done right now, 708 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: What can you tell us about the atmosphere in the 709 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: building at large, the veterans on the team, the sense 710 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: of urgency is is that there. I mean, you played 711 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: a place at Ohio State where you've gotta go win 712 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: the national championship. It's a bus Do you do you 713 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 3: sense that type of urgency here. 714 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 6: I sent a group of guys who who knows, who 715 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 6: knows what it takes, and guys that are willing to 716 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 6: do whatever it takes. And that's kind of like our mindset. 717 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 6: You know, we know what it takes and we've came close, 718 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 6: but we know that wasn't close enough. So like I 719 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 6: said earlier, you know, we not only owe it to 720 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 6: the to the fans, but we owe it to ourselves. 721 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 6: And you know, we're gonna put in the work and 722 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 6: then you know, we're not looking at that right now. 723 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 6: Right now, we're still in in what stays two right now, 724 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 6: so we're still building, but but we know what it 725 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 6: takes and we're willing. 726 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 5: To do whatever. 727 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: I would imagine that, you know, c J. Stroud, your 728 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: former teammate, there's maybe been a little Buckeye buck eye 729 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: talk this summer after that playoff game. I'm sure you're 730 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: very hungry to get back at him, But was that 731 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: kind of a surreal moment that you're making your playoff 732 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: debut going against a guy that you had gone against 733 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: in practice and seen for you know, your time at 734 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: Ohio State. 735 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 6: Yea, And there was definitely some talks, you know, we 736 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 6: trained together in the hall season. 737 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 9: Okay, we had about it. 738 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 6: We definitely did. But you know, looking back at it, 739 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 6: and you know, after the game, being able to talk 740 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 6: to him, it's definitely a surreal moment. You know, someone 741 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 6: you went to school with and and grinding with, and 742 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 6: just to see him go out there and perform the 743 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 6: way he did, it was just great to see. You know, 744 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 6: I'm I'm extremely happy for his future and definitely hoping. 745 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: You know, I get another chance, get another shot. 746 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: Exactly. 747 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: So, I don't know, Ronnie, pretty elite high school lacrosse 748 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: player back in the day, you originally committed to Rutgers 749 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: right ron for lacrosse? 750 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 6: Definitely, Yeah, Yeah, I was. I was. 751 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 752 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: So we don't have two sport athletes very often anymore. 753 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 9: Uh, but do there is now? 754 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 7: Would? 755 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: And I'm not suggest that we're just as all tongue 756 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: in cheek, but do you think you could play at 757 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: that level? 758 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: He was? 759 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: This is Ryan's an All American high school lacrosse player 760 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: out of Jersey. 761 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: Wow. 762 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, I think the biggest difference was just 763 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 6: you know, the pay. It just wasn't really because I 764 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 6: definitely love sports. I love the two sports equally. But 765 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 6: you know, once it came down to future and you 766 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 6: know which sport is playing the most, it. 767 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: Was Yes, yeah, you made the right choice. 768 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no doubt. 769 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: Do you think you could play because you think you 770 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: laid professional lacrosse now and in addition to your NFL career, 771 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: would that be something possible? Would you select with the 772 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: skills still be there? 773 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 6: I could definitely, I think I could, Like if I played, 774 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: I could definitely go play professional lacrosse. Not to both though, 775 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 6: but I could definitely. I think I could. I could 776 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 6: definitely play professional across for sure. 777 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: All my boys play. If you could give their ten, twelve, ten, 778 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: and eight one piece of advice, all right, my oldest plays. 779 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: The two oldest ones play attack and the little guy 780 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: just runs around right now with the two oldest play attack. 781 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 6: I telled them to do as much as they can. 782 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 6: And you said they're young right now? 783 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 9: Right? 784 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yep? 785 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, So you know I give one of them. I 786 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 6: let one of them be a long stick MIDI. You know, 787 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 6: I let one of them try stay saw. I tell 788 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,479 Speaker 6: them to try to explore, and then once they find 789 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 6: something that they feel like they got, their their their 790 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 6: click or click and form. 791 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 9: I tell them the hone in and focus on that 792 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 9: great advice. 793 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 3: Buddy, I like it, good stuff, great talking. Enjoy this round, Yeah, absolutely, 794 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: enjoy the sun. 795 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 10: I will thank you guys for having fan favorite wide 796 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 10: out and CBD friend of show. Rashard Hollywood Higgins signed 797 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 10: a one day contract retire as a Brown this offseason. 798 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 10: He sits down with Ze when we returned to Cleveland 799 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 10: Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet, a sports 800 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 10: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns now live in Ohio 801 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 10: on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 802 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily front you by him brown that now 803 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on at ESPN Cleveland. 804 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 10: We hope you're enjoying this special best of edition of 805 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 10: Cleveland Browns Daily. I'm Jason Gibbs. Time to hear from 806 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 10: one of our favorite Browns who decided to hang it 807 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 10: up this offseason. Rashard Hollywood Higgins sits down with Nathan 808 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 10: to talk about his love for Cleveland, the fan base, 809 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 10: and why he decided to retire as a Cleveland Brown. 810 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: This is great Man joined by Hollywood Higgins in studio 811 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 2: again back where it all started here with the Cleveland 812 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: Browns and today, you retired as a Cleveland brown Why 813 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 2: was that so important to you? 814 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 11: It was important because this organization was the first to 815 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 11: believe in me, you know, and my whole slogan behind 816 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 11: everything I did was make him believe, you know, make 817 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 11: them believe in everything. And somebody had to believe in me, 818 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 11: and it was the Browns. So it only made sense 819 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 11: to go out the same way I came in. 820 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: It's just great seeing you. Yeah, we had a lot 821 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 2: of good times in your time here with the Cleveland Browns. 822 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 11: Absolutely. 823 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: You know, when you kind of like think back on 824 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: it now, you come out of Colorado State kind of 825 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: initially slow, and then you have the big twenty eighteen season, 826 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 2: then you had to deal with some adversity in twenty nineteen, 827 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: big twenty twenty season again, the playoff year, kind of 828 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: that magical season. So you really were kind of a 829 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: part of this organization kind of really turning around and 830 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: getting to where it is. You know, where we are 831 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: now was built on the back of I think that 832 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: eighteen season and certainly the twenty twenty season as well. 833 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: Is that kind of when you think back on it, 834 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 2: what a wild ride it was for you? In many ways, 835 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: you did a lot happened insane in a few years. 836 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 7: Insane. 837 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 838 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 11: We first came in and it was like, oh, in 839 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 11: sixteen and it's like, wait, is this how an NFL 840 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 11: really is? And then we go again and there's like 841 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 11: one in one in. You get what I'm saying, We 842 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 11: only want one game the. 843 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: Next year, and it's like, man, hood, I remember I. 844 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 11: Was, I'm questioning football like that is this even for me? 845 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 11: Bro Baker comes in, he boy got that swag by himself, 846 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying. He come in, Jarvis come in. 847 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 11: Everything's a little different, you know. And then we start 848 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 11: going and we winning games and then here we go, 849 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 11: we're in the playoffs and it's like it's the first 850 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 11: time we've been in the playoffs since what two. 851 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: Thousand and it was a long time. Yeah, it was 852 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: a long time. 853 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 11: And it's like, man, you know what, this is the 854 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 11: bar now for the new classes that's coming in a 855 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 11: see what we did. 856 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 7: We went to the playoffs. 857 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 11: That should be That should be the goal every year. 858 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 11: Just make it to the playoffs, getting the ring and 859 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 11: getting the championship. 860 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 7: That's what we want. 861 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 9: Though. 862 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 2: You know, while Sashi Brown was the GM at that time, 863 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 2: Andrew Barry was kind of the top personnel guy in 864 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: that front office. That helps bring you in in that class. 865 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 11: Absolutely, and now he's back. And now he's back and 866 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 11: he's doing it at a high level. You know, a 867 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 11: lot of people expect a lot of things from Andrew Berry, 868 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 11: and it's like, calm down, bro, he got this under control. Yeah, 869 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 11: you know, he got what it takes. He knows what 870 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 11: it takes. He's been here before. And believing that guy, 871 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 11: he believed in me, so I'm gonna believe in him. 872 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 873 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: I love it. You know, just sitting right here, seen 874 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: you smile. You always had kind of that magnetism and 875 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: that connection, certainly with our fan base. And you mentioned 876 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: with Bacon, you guys obviously vibe right away walking the 877 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: red carpet, all the celebrations, all of that stuff. What 878 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: was what was kind of special to you about maybe 879 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: this city, this fan base, and the relationship that you 880 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: were able to forge with them because you were always 881 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: immensely popular here with the Cleveland Browns. 882 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 11: I really truly believe that this is America's favorite team. 883 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 11: A lot of people say that it might be the Cowboys. 884 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 11: This is a football town, Oh yeah, And if we lose, 885 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 11: everything is bad. But when we were winning, the food 886 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 11: tastes good. Everything is just like on track. So man, 887 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 11: I love his fan base. You know. I discovered another 888 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 11: fan base in my last year with the Panthers. But man, 889 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 11: when I when I went over there, and it was 890 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 11: just like nothing compared to those Cleveland Browns fans, bro, 891 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 11: you know. 892 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 7: Die hard fans. 893 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 11: We had a sold out stadium and we were on fifteen, Like, 894 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 11: are you serious? You know, that's how much the game 895 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 11: of football means to this town. 896 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 7: And I'm truly. 897 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 11: Honored to be a part of the Cleveland Browns for 898 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 11: six years of my life. You know, it meant a 899 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 11: lot to me. I've had kids while I was here. 900 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it all. 901 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 11: I've seen people first round has come, seen them go, 902 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 11: and it's like I still stood here and with it 903 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 11: the storm, and that meant a lot to me, you know, 904 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 11: just knowing how much it meant to me studying my 905 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 11: playbook day in day out. You know, there was sleepless 906 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 11: nights and I just know in order for me to 907 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 11: play and step out on that field, I had to 908 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 11: know what I was doing. I was the next man up, 909 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 11: and I always had that mentality. Somebody get hurt, guess 910 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 11: what they had to call on me? And I had 911 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 11: to know what each player I had, no matter what. 912 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 11: And I really truly believe that's what kept me at 913 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 11: this organization so long. 914 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: I just I had the brains and you're the desire 915 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 2: and that work ethic. 916 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 11: Absolutely, I put the work behind. 917 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 2: You're reliable, You're where you're supposed to be when you 918 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: were supposed to be there. You caught it if they 919 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 2: threw it to you. Yeah, that's what that's. 920 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 7: Kind of the job. 921 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: That's all I had to do. It's not that simple, though, right, 922 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: It's not that simple to be where you're supposed to 923 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: be when you're supposed to be there, be open and 924 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: then catch it when they throw it to you. But 925 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: that's that's when you boil down to the essence the 926 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 2: receiver job, right the ball. Well, when you think back, 927 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: what were some of like your favorite if there's certain 928 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: play or favorite moment of your time here? For me, 929 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: I mean the red carpetwalk and Tennessee will always be 930 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: a bag sliding phenomenalp I mean that's phenomenal. Like that 931 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 2: is when I think when I hear Hollywood Higgins that's 932 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: the first thing that comes into my mind. 933 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think mine would be like the iconic moment, 934 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 11: you know, Lebron had his post a moment at the Downtown. 935 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 11: I think me and Baker's was when we did that. 936 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 11: I think it was a double pass drivers through it 937 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 11: to Baker and. 938 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 2: Then against the Jets. 939 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 11: I read it, yeah yeah, and he swagging it. 940 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 2: I'm like right behind him, like that's what. 941 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 11: I'm talking about. 942 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 2: That was the first win the Jets Thursday night. That 943 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: was the one. 944 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 11: Bro, This this city was electric, you know, yes, Bridges, 945 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 11: Oh my god, man, I cannot describe the moment, but 946 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 11: that was probably one of the best, one of two 947 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 11: of the best moments that I had. The other one 948 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 11: was going to the playoffs. Insane, insane Bro. The Stellers 949 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 11: at home and we just had a dog walk in 950 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 11: the park with him. 951 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: It was twenty eight nothing before, it was seven nothing 952 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: after the first. 953 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 11: Play Listen, we wanted to go to the playoffs so bad. Yeah, 954 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 11: and we knew what it what we needed to do. 955 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 2: Well, dude, it's great to see. I'm so glad that 956 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: you were able to do this because, like I said, 957 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: you were such always great with us. We love getting 958 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: a chance to talk to you. Always were down for anything, 959 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 2: and you're beloved by our fans. So I'm gonna I'm 960 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: gonna end with this one. What's the kind of put 961 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: a tie bow on it as it were. What's one 962 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: thing you'd want to say to the to the fans 963 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 2: of the Cleveland Browns and the fans of obviously Hollywood Higgins. 964 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 11: I want to say that I bleed orange and brown. 965 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 11: Thank you guys for believing inmy Thank you guys for 966 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 11: trusting the process. 967 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: This is the start of. 968 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 11: A new journey for me and I couldn't be more 969 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 11: proud than to retire Cleveland Brown. So thank you from me, 970 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 11: thank you for my family, Thank you guys, thank you. 971 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 2: All, and thank you Hollywood Higgins did awesome man than congrats. 972 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 5: Thank you. 973 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 10: That does it for our one safety. 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Don't let 991 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 3: winter sneak up on you. Renew Home Exteriors your trusted 992 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 3: partner and home maintenance, giving your home safe and sound, 993 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 3: one roof at a time. And now, Rodney mccloch and 994 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown Staley, what a. 995 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: Trait kicking off our number two with a returning member 996 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 2: of the Cleveland Browns, Rodney McLeod. Rodney, Welcome back, man, man, 997 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm excited to be back. I can tell us how's 998 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 2: the arm how are you feeling. 999 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 12: Man, It's good. Things are progressing well. 1000 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 13: You know, I expect to make a full recovery, and honestly, 1001 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 13: it's been a straightforward procedure. You know, I've gone through 1002 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 13: a CLS, rotator cuffs, but the bossep has been straightforward. 1003 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 13: Nothing's ever seamless, but for the most part good. So 1004 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 13: Phil Schalm lifting up my dog. You know, I'm baring 1005 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 13: with me, so no issues. 1006 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: So I know how hard that had to be for 1007 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: you getting injured at the end of the season last year. 1008 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 2: But you know, when talking to guys like Ronnie and 1009 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: de Anthony, you stayed so involved and so present and 1010 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 2: added so much behind the scenes that people didn't see. 1011 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: To me, says so much about who you are as 1012 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: a guy to player, teammate, all of that. What was 1013 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 2: that experience like for you? And did you get some 1014 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: gratification out of the way you were able to mentor 1015 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: those young guys and a guy like rinning the thing 1016 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 2: making huge plays down the stretch. 1017 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think to the first point to injury, it 1018 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 13: was devastating for me, you know, to you know, work 1019 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 13: that hard and to now enter into a new locker room. 1020 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 9: You know, every player prides. 1021 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 12: Themselves on availability and being available for your team. 1022 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 13: And not at the just the start of the year, 1023 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 13: but that that means from you know, O TA training 1024 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 13: camp all the way through to you know, hopefully the 1025 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 13: Lombardi and I fell last year, like I let my 1026 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 13: guys down, you know, by not finishing, and it kind 1027 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 13: of was an incomplete story for me, and I think 1028 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 13: everything inside of me, of course, wanted to make that 1029 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 13: moment about myself. 1030 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 12: But you know, as you you know, evolve and over 1031 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 12: my time in the league, you know, I've. 1032 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 13: Because of the way I was brought in and I 1033 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 13: had great veterans like Corolyn Finnegan and Quinn Michael to 1034 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 13: guide me, to help shape me and make me the 1035 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 13: player that I am. 1036 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 12: I felt I needed to also serve that role in 1037 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 12: that room from some of those young men. 1038 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 13: And so for me, I couldn't turn my back right 1039 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 13: like I'm now, I'm not on the field, but I 1040 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 13: can contribute in a way off the field that's gonna 1041 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 13: help and still hopefully get us to where we ought 1042 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 13: we wanted to get to. And yeah, I just poured 1043 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 13: into those guys. Uh you know, you talked about a 1044 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 13: d Bell rocket. Those guys had a remarkable year and 1045 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 13: they excelled and it was good to see, you know, 1046 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 13: knowing that a guy like myself, you know, what's what's 1047 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 13: able to. 1048 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 7: Kind of help nurture them. 1049 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 12: But after I gave him a couple of tunes, man, 1050 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 12: they turned, they took it. 1051 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 7: They ran with it, and they made it their own. 1052 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 14: Absolutely, So I have to have a next success with 1053 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 14: those young guys like that is coaching in your future? 1054 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 7: Man, So many people what came up to me last year? 1055 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 13: Man, I mean I really could see you coaching, but 1056 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 13: it's it's different when we talk about, you know, you 1057 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 13: being a player coach versus a full time coach. 1058 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 7: Yes, and those responsibilities look completely different. 1059 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 13: So I don't I don't want I don't want to. 1060 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 13: I don't want to sign off to that right now. 1061 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 13: I need a shadow opportunity before I stepped foot in 1062 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 13: and put the headset on for real. But uh, you know, 1063 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 13: it gave me a little insight into just what it 1064 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 13: takes to be a coach, and you just appreciate a 1065 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 13: lot of those men that stand before us and have 1066 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 13: to do the things that they do in order to 1067 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 13: prepare us and equipp us for Sundays. 1068 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 14: So when you look at last season, obviously things didn't 1069 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 14: go the way you plan them to. When you look 1070 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 14: at this upcoming season, what are some goals that you've 1071 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 14: already set for yourself that you want look into accomplish, 1072 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 14: Because I mean you you already wanted super Bowl before 1073 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 14: you Obviously you came here and it was a new 1074 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 14: locker room. You had to get the trust in bond 1075 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 14: with your new teammates. What are you looking to do 1076 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 14: this season? 1077 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 7: Personally? 1078 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 12: I'm hungry for another super Bowl. 1079 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 13: Yes, you know, once you once you touch that platform 1080 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 13: one time and you win it and you feel everything 1081 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 13: that comes with it, that's all. 1082 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 12: That's the standard from here on out. And so that's 1083 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 12: what I'm That's what I'm chasing. 1084 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 13: I'm chasing another ring personally, Like I want to get 1085 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 13: over twenty interceptions in my career. 1086 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 12: I'm too short. So that's something that I'm looking to. 1087 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 13: Do, which is a huge achievement for me, you know, 1088 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 13: in my story and honestly just man as a as 1089 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 13: a team, really looking to finish off where we where 1090 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 13: we the way we ended, just with the momentum it 1091 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 13: obviously the the ending wasn't what we hoped for, but 1092 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 13: there's a lot to build off of of the the energy, 1093 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 13: the passion, the camaraderie, uh, the togetherness, the everything about it. 1094 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 13: We were clicking and so I think if we take 1095 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 13: that and move forward into this new season with you know, 1096 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 13: new guys on the team, you know, we can go far. 1097 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 13: And I'm looking to have a complete year. I think 1098 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 13: I text the fancy, I said, Man, we left food 1099 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 13: on the table. Yes, you know, I'm I left, like 1100 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 13: we all left food, but I definitely left food on 1101 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 13: that table and I gotta come back for it. And 1102 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 13: for me, this is this is honestly saying like this 1103 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 13: is gonna be my last lap. You know, whatever happens happens, 1104 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 13: but I'm coming for it all and I want it all. 1105 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 9: I love it. 1106 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 2: Let's do it, Let's go. So you mentioned it. For you, 1107 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: I think about your room. You know, one was dealing 1108 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 2: with that calf all year. Grant ended up missing time 1109 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,439 Speaker 2: after having a great year in that contract. So there's 1110 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 2: probably all three of you that year didn't necessarily go 1111 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 2: the way that you wanted. And for you, you know, 1112 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 2: you had been healthy for the most part since what 1113 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, So I'm sure it was a shock for 1114 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 2: all of you guys and want it been healthy throughout 1115 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 2: his career Grant obviously after the initial you know, Achilles 1116 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: had been healthy his career. 1117 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, and you know you point to you know, our 1118 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 13: room that extends over into various rooms and the whole 1119 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 13: team like, yeah, the storyline last year was wow, like 1120 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 13: how are they going to overcome this? 1121 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 7: And then this and then this? And we did it 1122 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 7: every time. 1123 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we stood tall. It'd be nice to see the 1124 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 2: team healthy, by the way, That's what I'm. 1125 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,959 Speaker 13: Saying, fully equip, fully equip, Let's come back and let's 1126 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 13: and let's see how far we can go. 1127 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 2: You mentioned being a new guy coming in the locker room, 1128 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 2: and you know I've been this is this will be 1129 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 2: now my thirteenth season here. I've seen a lot of 1130 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 2: locker rooms. I've never seen one like last year. And 1131 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: it felt like to me observing you and the respect 1132 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 2: you had from your teammates, respect your peers, coaches, even 1133 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: coach Banda loved obviously having you in his room and 1134 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: to throw your back, but it felt like you had 1135 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 2: been a Brown for forever and in many ways like 1136 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 2: they were coming into your locker room for real, I mean, 1137 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 2: And that was a very unique thing for me to 1138 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: observe with this team, But there was something special battle. 1139 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: I think you were very much kind of at the 1140 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 2: center of that. 1141 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do 1142 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 13: with just the men that were in that locker room, 1143 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 13: because that's the hardest part about the. 1144 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 12: Game is trust and building that trust. 1145 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 9: And some of that was already you know. 1146 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 13: Was there, it did exist, but it took a few 1147 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 13: more pieces just to you know, to link a few 1148 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 13: more arms together, which ultimately made us stronger. And you 1149 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 13: saw a lot of you saw that come to life 1150 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 13: when we were hit with those adverse moments. 1151 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,919 Speaker 7: Throughout the time. 1152 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 13: Because a lot of teams, you know, Coach told me 1153 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 13: you're going to face like three crisis a year. 1154 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 7: You just never know what they're gonna be. 1155 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 1156 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 13: But it's the foundation that you build to be able 1157 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,280 Speaker 13: to when everything is going wrong. Can you withstand the media, 1158 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 13: the fans, the the family, maybe even drama and in 1159 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 13: all of these things looking to pierce that that rock 1160 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 13: that you form and is it Is it truly durable? 1161 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 12: And you're gonna find out in those moments. 1162 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,240 Speaker 13: And I credit uh Stefanski and the staff for taking 1163 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 13: this out to Greenbrier, because I really felt in that 1164 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 13: moment that's where we that's where our identity and our 1165 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 13: togetherness was. 1166 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 7: Formed, might get to do it again. That's what I'm hearing. 1167 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 7: I'm not necessarily looking forward to like the conditions, but 1168 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 7: liked is great. 1169 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 6: But I but you have me. 1170 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 9: I I'm a believer now. 1171 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 13: I truly believe that it removed us from society and 1172 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 13: our day to day routines and for us to just 1173 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 13: commit to ball and commit to one another for that 1174 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 13: span of time and that and that really paid dividend 1175 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 13: for us. 1176 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 14: When you watch the playoffs as obviously after we lost 1177 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 14: to the Texans, and you watched those playoffs, what was 1178 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 14: something that you learned, you know from looking at other teams, 1179 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 14: maybe some other player taught you something, Maybe you looked 1180 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 14: at your Browns teammates and said, hey. 1181 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: We can do this. 1182 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 7: What was your moment? 1183 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 2: What was your thoughts as the playoffs was going on? 1184 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 13: As I, as I watched on the sideline, I felt 1185 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 13: helpless because again, like I talked about earlier, just availability 1186 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 13: and wanting to be a part. But I didn't I 1187 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 13: didn't see it as necessarily a loss for us. 1188 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 9: It's just a learning lesson. 1189 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 7: Right, A lot of. 1190 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 13: What was covered throughout the playoffs really just stems to, 1191 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 13: you know, us being making sure that we're fully you know, 1192 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 13: quip for that for that moment, and and honestly, for 1193 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 13: a lot of guys, it was the first time, you know, 1194 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 13: and and you don't know until you until you experience. 1195 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 7: It, what it's really like. 1196 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 13: Like a lot of guys can try to explain it 1197 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 13: to you, but you have to live it for yourself. 1198 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 13: And I know, you know, we're going to use that 1199 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 13: as a learning lesson and say, hey, man, like when 1200 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 13: we are put in this position again, we're gonna be 1201 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 13: fully prepared for everything that's involved, right, because. 1202 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 12: It's not only the preparation, but it's the end game moments. 1203 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 13: It's you know, are you staying you know, mentally focused, 1204 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 13: are you able to still make adjustments? And all of 1205 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 13: these things are going on in the environment itself, right, 1206 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 13: is also like chaos and distracting as is. So I 1207 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 13: just look at it as a learning lesson for us 1208 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,919 Speaker 13: and understanding that, you know, we didn't play our best game. 1209 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 13: We all know that there were probably a lot of 1210 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 13: reasons why you long live. But at the end of 1211 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 13: the day, we're gonna go back and when the next 1212 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 13: opportunity presenttion so which it will this year, we're gonna 1213 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 13: take it and we're gonna run with it. 1214 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 7: So I love it. 1215 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 2: How if at all, has Jim Schwartz changed from your 1216 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 2: first go around in Philly to the guy that I 1217 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 2: know you were excited to come join here in Cleveland. 1218 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 7: Not a bit, not an ouse, not an ounce That 1219 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 7: man has changed. 1220 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 13: And that's what you have to respect most about Jim 1221 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 13: is he is always his authentic self and what you 1222 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 13: see is what you're gonna get. And it's hard for 1223 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 13: any person to come in first year and have the 1224 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 13: amount of success as he did and really reshape the 1225 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 13: culture here defensively and not only reshape it, but man, 1226 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 13: just get breathe new life into it. Empowered you guys, 1227 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 13: and empowered us. And the one thing I love about 1228 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 13: him he allows each player to beat himself same way 1229 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 13: I spoke about it. He's his true self and he 1230 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 13: allows guys to express their personality on the field. The 1231 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 13: energy like you see it, I mean, you see g 1232 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 13: Knew like all them guys dancing, all the handshakes that 1233 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 13: we have. It is contagious. And he encourages it. And 1234 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 13: it's been that way since I knew him. In Philly, 1235 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 13: we were the same way. There's always each year you 1236 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 13: find something right, like some sort of identity that you've 1237 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 13: run with. And you know, this year you see the 1238 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 13: d line that had their turnover chain and things like that. 1239 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 13: So it's all those little things and had we actually 1240 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 13: had a dog kennel, so with every turnover we would 1241 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 13: bring the ball back, we would put it in the kennel, 1242 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 13: and we would bring the person up whoever created a 1243 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 13: turnover just to share a quick word or two and 1244 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 13: man like when we created that you saw turnover. 1245 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 12: Just to add up it was like three four two three. 1246 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 7: Like every week we touching it, we're getting something, We're 1247 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 7: bringing the ball back. 1248 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,479 Speaker 13: So just having that sort of sort of identity about 1249 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 13: ourselves I think allowed us to thrive the way we did. 1250 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 12: And a lot of credit to Jim for orchestrating it. 1251 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 7: I love that. 1252 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 6: Man. 1253 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 7: You I missed playing football. You make me miss it. 1254 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 14: Last year, at what moment of the season, you know, 1255 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 14: as the after the Greenbrier, what was the moment of 1256 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 14: the season that happened where you was like, you know what, 1257 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 14: this team is very special. 1258 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, Baltimore Ravens. 1259 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 13: Really just like that on the road, Baltimore Ravens. We 1260 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 13: went there, started a game picked six. 1261 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, we remember, you know what I'm saying, And it was. 1262 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 13: In that moment, and honestly, I think the next series defensively, 1263 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 13: we gave up like a fifty yard run, you know, 1264 00:57:59,200 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 13: down the sideline. 1265 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 7: So nothing was going right for us in the game 1266 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 7: where we needed to win. They beat us at home. 1267 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 13: We're now coming and stepping in today they home territory 1268 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 13: and we got to handle business. And all I remember 1269 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 13: is not seeing the guy flinch on the sideline, Like 1270 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 13: nobody was waivered, nobody was stressed, nobody was payiced. And 1271 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 13: you look at that moment like wow, Like because of 1272 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 13: what we've gone through, we're now equipped for this moment. 1273 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 13: We stay, we're now poised, we're focusing on the next play, 1274 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 13: not the previous play, and we're staying together more importantly, 1275 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 13: and we're still trusting our coaches and the guys next 1276 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 13: to us that they're going to do their job for 1277 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 13: the remainder of this game, because those are the only 1278 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 13: things that are going to get you out of any 1279 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 13: tough situation. And so for us, to play the way 1280 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 13: that we did in all phases, because it took every 1281 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 13: phase to win that game. And then credit for for 1282 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 13: having like a man like what fourteen balling. Then defensively 1283 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 13: we get a pick six. I mean everybody, everybody was 1284 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 13: stepping up Mike Ford with an interception at the end 1285 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 13: of half. 1286 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 7: But like it took every. 1287 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 13: Ounce of of that Cleveland Brown's team to complete the mission. 1288 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 13: And when I look back on that moment, I said, 1289 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 13: that's it. That's gonna be the one right there, and everybody, 1290 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 13: a lot of guys are credit that game, you know, 1291 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 13: to why we continue. And like I said, the next 1292 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 13: the next week we find out that we lose our 1293 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 13: quarterback and then and then yeah. 1294 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 12: I'm telling you, like it's that was the moment. That 1295 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 12: was an aha moment, like yeah, we we We've arrived. 1296 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 2: So you know in Baltimore, the way you kind of 1297 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 2: watch got you end up coming down that that thin 1298 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: stair to the to the buses. And so I was 1299 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 2: out there and that was the game and I was like, 1300 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm talking to everybody. It was such a euphoric feeling, right, 1301 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 2: and it felt to me, you know from guys like 1302 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 2: you even talking to Shawn, Like that was the moment 1303 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 2: and you guys were like, we could go win the 1304 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 1305 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 7: Tell like that we found ourselves like who we you 1306 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 7: know that that? 1307 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 15: Uh? 1308 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 4: That? 1309 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 7: What's that? 1310 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 4: Uh? 1311 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 12: What's the coach green? 1312 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 5: Danny? 1313 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 7: What's his uh? 1314 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Uh Dennis's green? 1315 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 4: Right? 1316 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 13: Yeah, and that's and that's exactly how we felt, like, man, 1317 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 13: everything we we like we said about ourselves up until 1318 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 13: this moment, Like that was it? 1319 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 2: That was that? And is that what feels the hunger 1320 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 2: because you guys never got to see that. You never 1321 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 2: got you had the moment and you were ready to 1322 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 2: run and then didn't get an opportunity that at least 1323 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 2: the way that you thought you were going to. 1324 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 13: In that correct correct because all of the pieces weren't 1325 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 13: in play. And so you know, now we're saying, look 1326 01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 13: we we got all the pieces we need and and 1327 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 13: we could run the table. 1328 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1329 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 2: I remember shouting even came off things like I'm me again. 1330 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 2: He's like yeah, I'm back. 1331 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, Like that was that was That was a defining 1332 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 13: moment for us as a team last year. And it's 1333 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 13: gonna take more of that this year, Like, leave no 1334 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 13: mistake about it. You know, we're not as surprise anymore. Right, 1335 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 13: and the hardest, the hardest thing you can do in 1336 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 13: life is do something the second time. And so now 1337 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 13: that we're gonna step step into the stage again, the 1338 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 13: lights will be shining bright for us because they understand, 1339 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 13: you know, who we are and we've now formed that 1340 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 13: identity about ourselves. 1341 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 7: Off the work that we did last year. So now 1342 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 7: the same work plus some got to go. 1343 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 13: Into this year in order for us to reach, you know, 1344 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 13: that top of the mountain that we're seeking in the division. 1345 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 2: By the way, that they didn't nobody else took this 1346 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 2: offseason off. 1347 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 7: No I think that. 1348 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 13: You know, I'm on social the other day and then 1349 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 13: I scroll and they're ranking every division and then we 1350 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 13: go at number one. 1351 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 7: We had number one. 1352 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 13: But there's there's nothing that you want More's to say, Man, 1353 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 13: look we we handle business. You know, we were able 1354 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 13: to raise that banner in the in the best division 1355 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 13: of NFL history or even that year, and it took 1356 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 13: hard work and dedication, commitment, everything that comes with it. 1357 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 13: And uh, it's no, it's nothing else that you want more. 1358 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 13: I don't want anything easy in life. 1359 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 7: I've never had it that way. So you know what 1360 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 7: I'm saying, like I want, I want, I want your best. 1361 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 7: That's what That's what. 1362 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 12: Brings out my best. 1363 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 7: So that's what I respect this year. 1364 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 2: Well, we're thrilled. We gotta wait till September. Man, I 1365 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 2: know you can enjoy your summer. You probably got some 1366 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 2: more vacations lined up. But not so happy to have 1367 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: you back because I think not only for what you 1368 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 2: bring in the elite play on the field, what you 1369 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 2: bring to this locker room, the leadership, all of it. 1370 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 2: The mentality that you were just talking about, the championship mentality. 1371 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 2: It's huge to have in this building. So we're so 1372 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 2: happy that you're back. 1373 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 9: I appreciate it, looking forward to it. 1374 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so are we coming up? 1375 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 10: After the break, you'll hear from defensive tackle Maurice Hurst. 1376 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 10: He joined the guys in studio. 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He sits down with Bo and Nathan 1389 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 10: to talk about why he re signed with the Browns 1390 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 10: and how tight knit that Brown's defensive line room is. 1391 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 2: Congratulations, man, back, appreciate it. A lot of familiar faces 1392 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 2: right in your room. It's like just running it back basically. Yeah, No, 1393 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 2: it's exciting. 1394 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 15: I'm extremely excited to have all the guys on the 1395 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 15: d line back besides Jordan Ellie, but you know, I'm 1396 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 15: extremely excited with the group that that we have coming 1397 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 15: back and just getting to build off of where. 1398 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 2: We left left off last year. It's extremely amazing. 1399 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 4: To have that. 1400 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing that I think so cool is 1401 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 3: is your So now you have year two with Jim 1402 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 3: Schwartz that defense and to your point, you build off 1403 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 3: of everything and by the way, it went pretty good 1404 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 3: in your one, right. 1405 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1406 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 3: The what is it about that we had Zidarius and 1407 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 3: Shelby in here yesterday? There's a real that's a tight 1408 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 3: knit group in that room. 1409 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean that's how that's how defensive line is 1410 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 15: supposed to be, supposed to be one of your closest 1411 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 15: groups in your team. Uh, and we we really took 1412 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 15: that to heart, you know, not having selfish guys. It's 1413 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 15: easy to get selfish within a team and a and 1414 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 15: a in a system, but you know, just genuinely rooting 1415 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 15: for each other to have success throughout the year, knowing 1416 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 15: that we're going to rotate, knowing that we're going to 1417 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 15: get the same amount of time and the same opportunities 1418 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 15: as one another. I think that makes for guys to 1419 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 15: to really be all in for each other and really, 1420 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 15: you know, want the best for each other to be 1421 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 15: able to roll in waves. 1422 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 2: During the game, Shelby and Zidarius were adamant that we 1423 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 2: need a defensive line trip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with 1424 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 2: the defensive line trip. 1425 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 15: But I saw that the was it alumni or fans 1426 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 15: or something just cru c Yeah, I didn't get invited 1427 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,439 Speaker 15: to that, so I was I was a little down 1428 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 15: about it, but you know, we'll write that down. 1429 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people would be thrilled to have a current, 1430 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 2: a current Cleveland brown on the on the roster. 1431 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 9: There. 1432 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna get that wrecked. 1433 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, where would you if you were organizing the the 1434 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 3: room vacation? 1435 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:02,919 Speaker 5: Where are you going? 1436 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 2: I mean, if we're if we're doing a cruise, I mean, 1437 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 2: what if everything's on it, anything's on the table. 1438 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 15: I mean, we're playing in Brazil this year, so I 1439 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 15: mean we could do a yeah, just a little, a 1440 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 15: little Rio trip out there. 1441 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 5: I don't know how that would lose. 1442 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 2: We can we be honorary defensive linement. I'd like to 1443 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 2: go to Rio. 1444 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 5: Well maybe they can. 1445 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 3: Maybe you and I can document some of the parts 1446 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 3: of the day. 1447 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Part very few and we will. We'll do Browns daily 1448 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 2: from there. 1449 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 7: We promote it. 1450 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 3: We could be the official NFL team of Brazil. Yeah, 1451 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 3: there's got to be a Brazilian Browns backers. 1452 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 2: There are huge, huge contention in Brazil soul. Seriously, Yeah, we're. 1453 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 5: All right, we're coming perfect. 1454 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm just throwing ideas out there. 1455 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 8: We won't. 1456 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 2: We won't at all, right, we love it. We'll be 1457 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 2: in flowers exactly exactly. You've fung out, spent a lot 1458 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 2: of time in Cleveland. You've really embraced this city, and 1459 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 2: so when you go into a free agency parody, never 1460 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 2: really know what's gonna happen till it does. Right right, 1461 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 2: How great is it for you given how you've embraced 1462 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 2: the city. I would's embrace you that and with your 1463 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 2: friends you get to run this thing back. 1464 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean it just it's a comfort level, just 1465 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 15: you know, having everything set up in plays from a 1466 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 15: weight room standpoint and nutrition into housing and just having 1467 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 15: that sort of routine is huge for me. So not 1468 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 15: having to uproot and then restart and try to meet 1469 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 15: all new people again and trying to you know, figure 1470 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 15: out what type of recovery tools I want to use 1471 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 15: within the city, and just being involved with the community, 1472 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 15: and you know, from all of those different types of aspects, 1473 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 15: it's it's great to be back somewhere that you know, 1474 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 15: feels like home and that you can continue to build 1475 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 15: on for another year. 1476 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 2: The one change that's happened is in your room with 1477 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 2: the coaching position. Jaxi's there who played in the league 1478 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 2: for a long time. 1479 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 15: Yeah, now the mask guy, Yeah, fellow mask guys have 1480 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 15: you you got a chance to them already. 1481 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 7: How's that? 1482 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 2: How's that going? Yeah? 1483 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 15: I mean he's awesome, a former player, very smart, got 1484 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 15: the most out of a lot of guys in Houston. Yeah, 1485 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 15: got some guys paid, had very productive seasons for guys. 1486 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 15: You know, Obo was with him when he was in 1487 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 15: Houston and got paid off off his time with him. 1488 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 15: So you know when you talk about buy and I 1489 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 15: think that's something that guys are going to have right away, 1490 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 15: just based off of his track record and what he's 1491 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 15: done as a coach. 1492 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,680 Speaker 2: Were I like to Evan, you're focused on the right things, right, Guys, 1493 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 2: when you get paid, it means he had success, you produced, 1494 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 2: and everybody's winning at them right. 1495 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a win for everybody when those things happen. 1496 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,520 Speaker 5: How do you guys. 1497 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 3: We were talking this week, I mean all the free 1498 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 3: agency stuff's happened. Every team in this division ultra aggressive 1499 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 3: and free agency. You got four teams that I think 1500 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 3: every one of the buildings they say, yeah, we can 1501 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl? 1502 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,560 Speaker 2: What is what is signing up for? 1503 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 4: That? Mean? 1504 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 3: The pressure to play in this division? We had three 1505 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 3: playoff teams last year. The one that didn't get in 1506 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 3: is one that was in the Super Bowl a couple 1507 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 3: of years ago. Right, Just what you're signing up for 1508 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 3: playing in this division and being part of this organization 1509 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 3: in that division. 1510 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean this is one of the best divisions, 1511 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 15: if not the best, in football. And I mean that 1512 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 15: just means that you have to be on your a game. 1513 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 15: You know, the whole year. You can't really fall off 1514 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 15: because you know, you lose one of those games to 1515 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 15: the Ravens or the Bengals, and you know that can 1516 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 15: mess up your playoff berth and you know, you see 1517 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,800 Speaker 15: that happen a lot. So you know, I think the 1518 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 15: first four or five weeks of the season, we played 1519 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 15: all of our teams within our division. Yeah, and it's 1520 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 15: like if you're not on your game week one, like 1521 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 15: you might get knocked out earlier on in the season. 1522 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 15: So you know, it's just being being on top of 1523 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 15: what you're supposed to do in that camp period is 1524 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 15: so important for us to get roll in week one 1525 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 15: super early. And you know, we did the Green Brier 1526 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,600 Speaker 15: this past year, and you know, I think that helped 1527 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 15: bring us together as a team, helped get us going quickly. 1528 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 2: Would you enjoy that opportunity again should present, Yeah, I 1529 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 2: think I think I'd enjoy it again. 1530 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,679 Speaker 15: Uh, you know, it was cool to get to spend 1531 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 15: time with the guys, and you know, especially being a 1532 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 15: new player on the team, Uh, just to have that 1533 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 15: time together because a lot of times when you're here, 1534 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,400 Speaker 15: you know, you come to the building and then you 1535 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 15: leave and you hang out with your family or you know, 1536 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 15: whatever is going on when you're in the Green Bar. 1537 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 2: You know there's no family there. 1538 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 15: Do you know the guys in your family, So you know, 1539 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 15: you're hanging out with them, You're kicking with them after 1540 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 15: you're playing cards or you know, watching fights or anything 1541 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 15: like that. 1542 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,640 Speaker 3: So when every single one of you guys brings that 1543 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 3: up organically, Yeah, when we talk about last season and 1544 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 3: the connectiveness that you guys had, everybody points to that 1545 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,600 Speaker 3: organically that it was that time at the Greenbrier, that 1546 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:40,759 Speaker 3: brotherhood that was developed. 1547 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 5: There was something that. 1548 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 2: It's not like you guys are going to go in 1549 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 2: it probably go every year. You're already walking in. It's like, yeah, 1550 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 2: you watch it that way. 1551 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 3: But also, I mean you think about it's such a 1552 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 3: magical season a year ago. But my god, was one 1553 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 3: one one huge turtle after another, and yet somehow you 1554 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 3: hung together as a group. 1555 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean it was you know, it really just 1556 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 15: had to do with the guys that we had in 1557 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 15: our building and the type of depth that we had 1558 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 15: to you know, be able to respond to when guys 1559 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 15: went down, and then even have some rookies really step 1560 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 15: into crucial roles like Ronnie Hickman did a did a 1561 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 15: fantastic job for us later in the season when we 1562 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 15: really needed him when guys started going down. 1563 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 2: So I mean that was just, you know, part of 1564 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 2: what we had to do, you know, as the Flaccos. 1565 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 15: It was, you know, just guys just stepping into two 1566 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 15: key roles and we needed to them too, and you know, 1567 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 15: just making the most of it. I mean, obviously we 1568 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 15: lost a little steam at the end, but you know 1569 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,560 Speaker 15: we we fought as as we could until till we 1570 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 15: couldn't anymore. 1571 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 3: A little bit of breaking news here, you see in 1572 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 3: this as well, Ian Rappaport, the Browns head coach, Kevin 1573 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 3: Spanski gm Andrew Berry have hired Mike Vrabel to serve 1574 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 3: as a consultant for the Browns. The former Titans head 1575 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 3: coach and Coach of the Year has been with him 1576 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 3: in Indi at the Combine and will work with them 1577 01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 3: this season. 1578 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 9: Pretty big coup there. 1579 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 2: Wow. 1580 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 15: Yeah, No, that's awesome. Mike's a great guy. He uh 1581 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 15: he recruited me when I was coming out. 1582 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 5: To to o s U. 1583 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 2: Uh but awesome. Guys. 1584 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 7: You have to tell him, no, you do. 1585 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 2: You have to Mike and tell him. 1586 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1587 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 15: But I mean, uh, you know, just just a great guy, 1588 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 15: tons of energy, you know. I think he'll be He'll 1589 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 15: be great for us. I think Jim was with him 1590 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 15: in Tennessee. Yes, so guy that's familiar with what we're 1591 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 15: trying to do and accomplish. 1592 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 3: Major that's he's a Walsh Jesuit guy. 1593 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, former Buck Eye of course. And then. 1594 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 2: That's my team when I was growing up, the Patriots. 1595 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 15: Yeah, a big fans of lots of touchdowns at tight end, 1596 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 15: great outside linebacker. 1597 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a big that's a that's a big 1598 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 2: deal right there. 1599 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 3: Surely, Well you got a guy who he recruited right 1600 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 3: here to tell him. Yeah, for everybody, guys, finally going 1601 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 3: to be connect. 1602 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, very exciting. One thing I wanted to ask you 1603 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 2: about is you know, you look at this season for 1604 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 2: you so the first time you played thirteen games for 1605 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,640 Speaker 2: some of you had an interception, first time you had 1606 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 2: a sack since twenty nineteen. Yeah, last year. What kept 1607 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 2: you motivating is you sit here now signing a deal 1608 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 2: to return here to the Cleveland Browns and you think 1609 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,720 Speaker 2: about the journey that you have been on. What kind 1610 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 2: of kept you going, what kept you believing that you 1611 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 2: could do this and then do do it? 1612 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:27,720 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1613 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 15: I mean for me, it's just a love for the 1614 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 15: game of football and just a genuine passion for it, 1615 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 15: and then also just a belief system where I know 1616 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,719 Speaker 15: I can play at an extremely high level. And even 1617 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 15: for last season, I feel like I was just kind 1618 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 15: of scratching the surface and that was, you know, coming 1619 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,000 Speaker 15: off of two years of basically not playing football. So 1620 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 15: just to get back into it and get rolling again 1621 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 15: and to have film and have stuff to build off of, 1622 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 15: that's going to be extremely crucial to you know what 1623 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 15: I'm going to be to do this upcoming season. 1624 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 2: How are you feeling now, I'm feeling great, feeling great, 1625 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:05,679 Speaker 2: feeling great. 1626 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 5: Good. 1627 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 2: Have you shown Jacques your interceptions that whatever you ought? Man, 1628 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm pretty nimble out there. 1629 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to put 1630 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 15: some good stuff out there this season for sure. 1631 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 3: That's awesome. Man, Thanks thanks for stopping by. Yeah, thank 1632 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 3: forging so happy you're back. It was you were such 1633 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 3: a big proard of it and this is great to 1634 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 3: run it back. Well Hurstanks, Buddy, I appreciate you, guys. 1635 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 10: Linebacker Christian Kirksey joins the show to talk about his 1636 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,839 Speaker 10: retirement when we return on this special edition of Cleveland 1637 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 10: Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet, a sports 1638 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 10: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio 1639 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 10: on eight to fifty ESPN. 1640 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by in Balley 1641 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 1: Bed Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 1642 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,879 Speaker 10: We're rolling through this special best of edition of Cleveland 1643 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,719 Speaker 10: Brown's Daily featuring some of our recently retired Brown's legends. 1644 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 10: Last up today linebacker Christian Kirksey, who signed a one 1645 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 10: day contract to retire as a Brown this offseason. He 1646 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,560 Speaker 10: joined Z to talk about the impact the city of 1647 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,960 Speaker 10: Cleveland has had on him and how he's a Brown 1648 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:11,559 Speaker 10: for life. 1649 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 2: Kirko, first of all, congrats on a great career. 1650 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you. 1651 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 2: Congrats on being recognized for being an elite human being. 1652 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,679 Speaker 2: You're one of the few people in the NFL's history 1653 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 2: to be a Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee 1654 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 2: for two different organizations. He did with the Browns as 1655 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 2: well as the Houston Texans where you finished your career, 1656 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,400 Speaker 2: and then today you came back to retire as a 1657 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,680 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown What made you want to do that? Why 1658 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 2: was that important to you? 1659 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 7: Oh Man? 1660 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 9: First off, thank you for the introduction. 1661 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 8: Then yes, man, it was important for me to come 1662 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 8: back here because obviously in twenty fourteen, d and Jimmy 1663 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 8: Haslam gave me opportunity to become a Brown, to be 1664 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 8: a part of this organization and to come back ten 1665 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 8: years later and be able to end my football career 1666 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 8: here uh and tied back together. 1667 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,719 Speaker 9: It is no greater story than that for me. City 1668 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 9: treated me like family. 1669 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Uh. 1670 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 8: It was so funny because certain people that I met 1671 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,639 Speaker 8: in Cleveland, they thought that I was from Cleveland because 1672 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 8: how much like you know, I brought it into the 1673 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 8: city and raced it, just did different things. I got 1674 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 8: some lifetime friends I've met here in Cleveland. My wife 1675 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,839 Speaker 8: is from Cleveland, my daughter's born in Cleveland. 1676 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 4: Uh. 1677 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 8: Man, I just got so many people that affects my 1678 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,600 Speaker 8: life positively, and you know, for me to pay it 1679 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 8: back forward, to come back and close that chapter, it 1680 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 8: means a lot for me. So the city is special 1681 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 8: to me. When I embody, the city embodies you know. 1682 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 8: I have a huge connection with the fans. You know, 1683 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 8: they're They've always been nice to me and my family. 1684 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 8: I have some good years here, some of my better 1685 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 8: years is here and just you know, just being able 1686 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 8: to play each and every time on the field. I 1687 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 8: was a captain, Walter player man in the year. Just 1688 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 8: it was a lot of a lot of positive too 1689 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,640 Speaker 8: and blessings here, So it makes sense for me to 1690 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 8: come back. 1691 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,760 Speaker 2: So I remember sitting in that share although it was 1692 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 2: not as nice of a chair we have chairs in here, 1693 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,639 Speaker 2: but in that spot. Ye, when you were drafted ten 1694 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 2: years ago you have been ten years ago probably next week. Yeah, 1695 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 2: that you got drafted in the twenty fourteen draft. Your 1696 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 2: your fellow draft classmate that's still going Joel Botonio's still 1697 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 2: here with the Browns from that twenty fourteen draft class. 1698 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 2: But when you kind of look back on I remember 1699 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 2: when I first talked to you, and I was like, man, 1700 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 2: you know you'd read everything you did Iowa how you're 1701 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 2: always a leader. I don't remember off the top of 1702 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:33,640 Speaker 2: my head the name of the award you won your 1703 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 2: final year at IOWOAD, but that was like the heart 1704 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 2: of the team kind of award that you won there 1705 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 2: to kind of think of back from that kid who 1706 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 2: was coming in and you're like, I'll do whatever, I'll 1707 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 2: play specialty, whatever, just get me on the field to 1708 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 2: the career that you were able to have. And you 1709 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 2: know what's kind of one thing that maybe you would 1710 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 2: look back and if you could tell, you know the 1711 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,479 Speaker 2: kid who got drafted about the man that would be 1712 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 2: sitting here right now. 1713 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, just keep believing in yourself and none of the 1714 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 8: all work that that you do go and notice, you 1715 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 8: know a lot of times you put in work and 1716 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,680 Speaker 8: a lot of times you you try to be as 1717 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 8: humble as you can because I was I was always 1718 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 8: taught to let another man praise you. Don't always just 1719 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 8: praise yourself or patch yourself on the back, but just 1720 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,640 Speaker 8: just do things humbly and moving at the court that 1721 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 8: you don't know who's watching you, and you don't know 1722 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,640 Speaker 8: that whose life that you are affecting, just by you know, 1723 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 8: being you and working hard and setting that standard. So 1724 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,640 Speaker 8: like the the me now would tell you know, the 1725 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,599 Speaker 8: little meat is is to keep going and keep working 1726 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,519 Speaker 8: hard no matter who's watching behind closed doors. Uh, stay 1727 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,600 Speaker 8: true to yourself and just keep working hard because like 1728 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 8: I said, you know, the right person will see you 1729 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 8: and the right opportunities to come your way just by 1730 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 8: being genuine and just about being authentic. And uh, I 1731 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 8: think that that's something that you know, I can say 1732 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 8: my whole career, no matter the outcome, no matter what's 1733 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 8: going on, like I remain true to who I was, 1734 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,800 Speaker 8: and that's just loving the game of football. You know, 1735 01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 8: being the best teammate that I can be. I truly 1736 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 8: believe like if you the best teammate, you know, you 1737 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 8: get the respect from your teammates and also just build 1738 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 8: that brotherhood in the locker room on the field. Is 1739 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 8: like if I can know you on a personal level 1740 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 8: and if I can be vulnerable to allow myself to 1741 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 8: be open and for you to understand who I am, 1742 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 8: I think that's how you know, you build the camaraderie 1743 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 8: at the team and that's all a part of it 1744 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 8: winning culture as well. 1745 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 9: So yeah, I'll tell my youngs that for sure. 1746 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 2: Listen and you men, you hit the next thing I 1747 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 2: was going to ask if you talk about the respect 1748 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 2: of your teammates when you are elected a team captain, 1749 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 2: as you were multiple times, that is the ultimate right, 1750 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 2: the respect of your peers, and you certainly have had 1751 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 2: that everywhere you've gone, and definitely here in Cleveland. And 1752 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 2: I know that was something you know, for me and 1753 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 2: in my role getting to interview you and getting to 1754 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,120 Speaker 2: see you kind of interact everybody. Everybody loved you, which 1755 01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 2: is a that's a great thing. That's a great thing, 1756 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 2: but that comes from being genuine. That's not something that 1757 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,280 Speaker 2: could be faked into. And so I think that was 1758 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:55,640 Speaker 2: one of the things that not only what you did 1759 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 2: on the field, but what you did in the locker room, 1760 01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:58,560 Speaker 2: and certainly what you've done off the field with the 1761 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 2: kirk Oland Foundation kind of all speaks to that. You know, 1762 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 2: in the Walter Payton Man of your nominations of you're 1763 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 2: just you are a genuine, good human being, which is awesome. 1764 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 2: And I think when people who are that are able 1765 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 2: to get recognized like you were today and kind of 1766 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 2: have that, as you said, that kind of bookend and 1767 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 2: andate that closer. It's awesome, man, this is I'm overjoyed 1768 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 2: seeing you. 1769 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 5: Dude. 1770 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 2: I've always I'd run into you when you go down 1771 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 2: to Houston and we'd see I come find you, usually 1772 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 2: you're stretching or something, come finding and say what's up, dude. 1773 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 9: Like it's just. 1774 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 2: This is a business that is so transient. You know this, 1775 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 2: the locker room shifts over so much every year. But 1776 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 2: when you have somebody that you know makes that kind 1777 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,560 Speaker 2: of impression that you're able to still connect with like 1778 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 2: ten years later, and it's like we saw each other 1779 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 2: ten years ago, that's something specially. It is a testament 1780 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:42,840 Speaker 2: to you. So I guess it's a long winded way 1781 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 2: of saying I've always really loved you, and it's awesome 1782 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 2: for me to see you kind of get this kind 1783 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:49,600 Speaker 2: of recognition. 1784 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 7: Thank you. 1785 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:50,720 Speaker 9: I appreciate it, man. 1786 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 2: And you know your teammates feel that way too. I'm 1787 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 2: sure you've had a lot of people who'll probably reach 1788 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 2: out to you. And at this point now that you're 1789 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,719 Speaker 2: deciding to move on to something. 1790 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 8: Else, hey, And and it's crazy because you really when 1791 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 8: you're when you're in it, you know you're you're just 1792 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 8: going day to day and you know you've been who 1793 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 8: you are you you know, you always talked to you know, 1794 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 8: be a good teammate and everything like that. But when 1795 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,320 Speaker 8: you look from the outside looking in and you look 1796 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 8: at your career, you're like, like, man, like, I've met 1797 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:21,200 Speaker 8: some incredible people. I've had a great, great time. It's 1798 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 8: nothing that I can go back on. Besides, I wish 1799 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,599 Speaker 8: when I was here we went to the playoffs. 1800 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 2: Of course, I'll just say you were here at a 1801 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 2: time with the Browns where unfortunately there was a lot 1802 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 2: of yeah and turnover and not of coaches front office. 1803 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 9: Right. 1804 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 2: So I always say this time, like when I go 1805 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 2: to the combat or something, But I know somebody in 1806 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 2: every organization now because at some point they were through 1807 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns and you knew them all too. 1808 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean every team that I went to, everybody's like, broh, 1809 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,640 Speaker 8: you know so many people. I'm like, I need to 1810 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 8: be honest. I played in Cleveland and I've just seen 1811 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 8: so many new faces. But you know what, though, I 1812 01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 8: can say that Carlos Dansby when I first got here, 1813 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,000 Speaker 8: you know, that was my that was my big VET 1814 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,759 Speaker 8: and he told me and it stuck with me since 1815 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 8: I first walked into an NFL door, and he was like, 1816 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 8: don't ever like let anybody steal your joy away from 1817 01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,640 Speaker 8: the game, because like when it's a business to its 1818 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 8: competition and you just gonna see a lot of new faces, 1819 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,880 Speaker 8: but like you got to keep your same joy because 1820 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,320 Speaker 8: like you can't dictate what happens to you in the league, 1821 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 8: but like you can dictate like your day to day 1822 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,560 Speaker 8: and just having your joy. So like I took that 1823 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,680 Speaker 8: and ran with it. Was just like, look if I'm 1824 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,800 Speaker 8: whether I'm here but I'm at a new team or 1825 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 8: when I just see new faces, is like I just 1826 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,800 Speaker 8: keep my same joy because like, can't nobody take it off. 1827 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:38,719 Speaker 9: I'm saying, yeah, you're smiling. 1828 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 2: It makes you feel like you I want to smile. Yeah, 1829 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:42,760 Speaker 2: smiling is great. 1830 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. 1831 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 2: Carlos Stancy. When you say him, I think of truth 1832 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,760 Speaker 2: take away from football. Obviously, it was a great FOOTBA player. 1833 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 2: You actually look at his resume, sex up very well 1834 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 2: with some of the greats to play the position, Trum's 1835 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 2: ability to tackle, cover, sack, quarterback, all of that. But 1836 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 2: I remember he had that kind of like that guru 1837 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 2: that and so I always think of him eating like 1838 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 2: lobster mac and cheese or whatever, because I was like allowed. 1839 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,800 Speaker 2: And then yeah, he came out with the body washing 1840 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 2: can you think of that name? 1841 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 4: My not? 1842 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,759 Speaker 2: You know, I had a bottle. I had a bottle. 1843 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,760 Speaker 8: And it's funny because when I think about Carlos, when 1844 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,440 Speaker 8: I think about his diet. 1845 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,680 Speaker 9: So I used to always be like, oh gee, I'm like, bro, 1846 01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,680 Speaker 9: why are you eating the same food? Like all the time. 1847 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 7: He like, he like works for my body. 1848 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,599 Speaker 9: He was like, look at young Kirko. He was like like, hey, 1849 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 9: you gotta you gotta feel your body right. 1850 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,559 Speaker 8: So it's funny because I look back when I went 1851 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,760 Speaker 8: to Green Bay, I had the same diet and it 1852 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 8: wasn't like the same exact to a t, but I 1853 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 8: was eating the same stuff and I ended up, you know, 1854 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 8: doing the same things he did. 1855 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 9: I had the art machine just like he had. 1856 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 8: And I was laughing at myself because the young kids 1857 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 8: looking at me like, oh gee, like why are you 1858 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 8: Why are you eating the same stuff? And I'm like, man, 1859 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 8: life happens to the full circle. 1860 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 7: Bro, it happens. 1861 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 4: Now. 1862 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 2: You were dispensing that with yeah, yeah, yeah, so school, 1863 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:01,960 Speaker 2: so when we when we got you, obviously a young 1864 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 2: man coming out of college. Now here you are a 1865 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 2: decade later, family man. You got two kids, daughter for 1866 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 2: son too, right, yep, how's that? I mean, father, it's 1867 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:11,639 Speaker 2: the best. 1868 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:12,639 Speaker 9: It's it's the best. 1869 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,639 Speaker 8: And I think that's what keeps me going because obviously, 1870 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 8: when you retire as a as an. 1871 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,040 Speaker 9: Athlete, you used to a structure schedule. 1872 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 8: You used to just I'm doing this at this part 1873 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 8: of the year, I have this this however break time 1874 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,639 Speaker 8: on this part of the year. So you just used 1875 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 8: to having the consistency of a structured schedule. But it 1876 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 8: helps me now that I'm a father and a husband, 1877 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,000 Speaker 8: is like I don't have no time to just sit 1878 01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,759 Speaker 8: still and do anything because I got to chase kids around. 1879 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,800 Speaker 8: So but it's it's it's such a joy, and I 1880 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 8: think it's a joy that you know, it's unmatched that 1881 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 8: you really can't explain, Like when you see your seed 1882 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 8: come to life and you're like, like, this is my child, 1883 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 8: Like you want to still the same things that was 1884 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:55,640 Speaker 8: instilled in me, and it. 1885 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 2: Just has to hit close to home with you with 1886 01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 2: ye what you went through A. 1887 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely everything, absolutely, So it's. 1888 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 8: Like, you know, for for for me to be a 1889 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,000 Speaker 8: father and now I think of my father, and yeah, 1890 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 8: I respect my mother and father even much because I 1891 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 8: know how hard it is raising kids. 1892 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 9: Like some days you'd be like, man, it's beautiful. The 1893 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,599 Speaker 9: other days you're like, a you're gonna pull. 1894 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 2: Your hair out. You guys go take a vacation. 1895 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:16,679 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1896 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, like no, we're here, Like they're depending on you. 1897 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah without you, Without you, they're not making it. 1898 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:23,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, Like yeah, that's the thing. 1899 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 2: I think. It's so interesting. You think about kind of 1900 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 2: just nature in general, right, and you see the videos 1901 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 2: of like, you know, a baby giraffe kind against drops 1902 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 2: to the ground that it's like up walking, and yeah, 1903 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,760 Speaker 2: it's got to kind of like do its own thing. 1904 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,800 Speaker 2: You bring a human baby home without you, like no chance, 1905 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:38,679 Speaker 2: there's no chance. 1906 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,560 Speaker 9: You got to remind yourself, like, you know what, I 1907 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 9: have to do this. 1908 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 2: On the bad days, I still gotta be daddy. It 1909 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 2: can be tough. I was gonna say. When you're you're 1910 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 2: used to a schedule and things happening at you know, 1911 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 2: certain times of the day, kids are just like no, yeah, yeah, 1912 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 2: we might wake up at three in the morning. 1913 01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:57,679 Speaker 5: Sorry. 1914 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 8: I remember the first time I was at home doing 1915 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 8: the hours that I was usually you know, at work, 1916 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,559 Speaker 8: and my son was looking at me like you never, 1917 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:07,880 Speaker 8: like yeah, what are you doing here? 1918 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 9: But like you're never here right this. 1919 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 8: Time, and I'm like, yeah, that's when reality kicked in, 1920 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 8: Like I'm gonna be here around this time every day. 1921 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 2: That's right. You're still still musician. 1922 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 8: So yeah, so I don't I don't play the drums 1923 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,479 Speaker 8: as much, but it's like riding the bike, man, Like 1924 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,720 Speaker 8: you pick up the drumsticks and you give yourself two 1925 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 8: little minutes to dust off the rest and you get 1926 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 8: back to it. 1927 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 9: So I'm still musically musically gifted. 1928 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt nine year NFL career music if 1929 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,920 Speaker 2: you're doing well. Yeah, Well, if you could tell us 1930 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 2: a little bit about the people who are listening Kirkland 1931 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,200 Speaker 2: Foundation and if they want to get involved with that. 1932 01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 8: How would they so to be honest with the kirk 1933 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,720 Speaker 8: o lamb, we're gonna actually transition. So I don't know 1934 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,600 Speaker 8: if if too many people know my wife's story, but 1935 01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 8: she's from Cleveland and she just did uh uh Miss Houston, 1936 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,599 Speaker 8: the Miss the Miss America stuff, well Miss International, sure, 1937 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 8: and uh she just did that last month and her 1938 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,680 Speaker 8: thing was foster care. So she's been involved heavily with 1939 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,599 Speaker 8: the foster care because she you know, dealt with foster 1940 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,560 Speaker 8: care in her life. So we're kind of trying to 1941 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 8: transition to kirk Coland because kirkle Land is open ended, 1942 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 8: is it's it's super broad focus, more focused. So with Kirkleland, 1943 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 8: we was just you know, help were needed. So we 1944 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 8: was doing back to school events, it was happening with homeless, 1945 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 8: We was helping with single mother, was helping with everything. 1946 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 8: But now I think we want to transition and now 1947 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 8: that I'm married and you know, have kids, want to 1948 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 8: transition into maybe aim towards foster care. But we haven't 1949 01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 8: set it in stone. But like my wife is a 1950 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 8: huge advocate about that. So it's like, you know, her 1951 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,680 Speaker 8: story is amazing, and now you partner it up with 1952 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,880 Speaker 8: with with myself, it's like, you know, some good things 1953 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,720 Speaker 8: can happen. So we're looking at the transitioning into that. 1954 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,920 Speaker 8: But my wife story is it's amazing, man. 1955 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:05,720 Speaker 5: And she did good. 1956 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 8: She was she was first runner up to Wow. It 1957 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 8: was her first time ever doing it, so it was 1958 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 8: pretty dope. 1959 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 9: It was pretty dope. 1960 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,760 Speaker 2: Family of Achievers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, out world. Yeah, man, 1961 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna remember and what will be about sixty he's 1962 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,160 Speaker 2: two twenty years from now. Yeah, we'll have another Curtsey 1963 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,400 Speaker 2: walking through the Hey, you. 1964 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 7: Never never know. My son is too right now. 1965 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 9: He looked like he about to be at the end. 1966 01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,640 Speaker 2: I love it too well, great to see. I want 1967 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 2: to get you out of here on this one. We 1968 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,640 Speaker 2: appreciate the time, and it's so cool to get to 1969 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 2: have you back here, glad, I mean get I'll tell 1970 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,600 Speaker 2: you you you do get reference quite a bit on 1971 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,680 Speaker 2: our program, just because you know, sometimes people will do 1972 01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 2: you know, who are some of the guys that you 1973 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,040 Speaker 2: really you know, that really stood out to in your 1974 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 2: timer and you're always on that list. 1975 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 9: I appreciate it, so there's no doubt and you know that, Yeah, 1976 01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:49,560 Speaker 9: I appreciate it. 1977 01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,240 Speaker 2: What's one thing if you wanted to say, like not 1978 01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,599 Speaker 2: to me, but just to the fans, you know right 1979 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 2: now it's just kind of like the final you know, 1980 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:57,439 Speaker 2: like thank you. 1981 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, man, look man a kid Saint Louis, Missouri. May 1982 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 8: y'all brought me in and yeah, y'all, y'all made it 1983 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 8: fit home for me. 1984 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 4: Man. 1985 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 9: I love y'all at all. My heart. 1986 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,720 Speaker 8: Sorry the years that I was here, we you know 1987 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 8: we didn't get it done, but I had some of 1988 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 8: the best times that y'all made it possible. 1989 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:12,760 Speaker 7: Man. 1990 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 2: I love y'all and dulltive for life. Y'all feel me 1991 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 2: beautiful yeach O, thank you man, congrats. 1992 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 10: Next, does the guys like to say? So much more 1993 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 10: to come? 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