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Speaker 1: Fire with Jason McIntire. What's up, everybody. It's Thursday, October one,
Speaker 1: the calendar has moved to October, usually the month for baseball, right,
Speaker 1: the boys of October, as they say, But uh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna start with a little n b A. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much we're gonna do. On Game one of
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, it was something of a blood bath.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming many of you watched. Hopefully you followed me
Speaker 1: on the best bet to it? Oh, babe, b how
Speaker 1: you like me? Now? Lakers role one six team to
Speaker 1: It was not close for a moment in the second half.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was ever single digits. And you
Speaker 1: know it's an ugly game when Jeff Van Gundy and
Speaker 1: Mike Breen, like midway through the third quarter Lakers are
Speaker 1: up like thirty, start talking about Lebron versus Jordan's first
Speaker 1: bar for the greatest player in NBA history. Folks, it's
Speaker 1: game one, Game one, now, I thought about, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of ways out. We just go
Speaker 1: blow through this. There's not much left to say here, um,
Speaker 1: But I have an analogy. And I was listening to
Speaker 1: a podcast about a guy talking about startups in Silicon
Speaker 1: Valley and how the best ones historically have been built,
Speaker 1: and he this guy had been a part of several
Speaker 1: And just to be clear, yes I did start a website.
Speaker 1: No I did not take any seed money. Yes I
Speaker 1: sold it. It was written about in the New York Times.
Speaker 1: But I did not get Silicon Valley money. Let's be
Speaker 1: clear on that um. But there were two keys to
Speaker 1: getting these startups off the ground, and the strategy is
Speaker 1: pretty pretty simple. Number one, you start with a players
Speaker 1: and then scale up with B plus players around them.
Speaker 1: And this is obvious, right, you want to start out
Speaker 1: with the best players. Sometimes you've gotta overpay for them
Speaker 1: when you're starting to start up, right, maybe you give
Speaker 1: them some equity in the company. And I mean it's
Speaker 1: tough to start without the best. You start with the
Speaker 1: best players, and then you add a great supporting cast.
Speaker 1: Now look at how the Lakers were built, Right, They
Speaker 1: get Lebron in free agency, and the first thing they
Speaker 1: did they made a run at Paul George. Paul George
Speaker 1: was in Okay. See. Everybody thinks he's gonna leave Okay,
Speaker 1: see go to Lakers. He made the decision to stay
Speaker 1: in Okay. See. And I know I've beat up Paul
Speaker 1: George a lot on this podcast lately. Obviously, in hindsight,
Speaker 1: that was an awful decision by him. Okay, fine, we
Speaker 1: can't really add any B plus players. We've got our cast.
Speaker 1: Let's try it out and you know how that worked out. Okay,
Speaker 1: they had a good run up to Christmas and Lebron
Speaker 1: gets hurt. YadA, YadA, YadA. We need to add an
Speaker 1: A player. They make a run at Anthony Davis at
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. Okay, this is what you gotta do
Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley. You need a players. They can't get
Speaker 1: the A player. Pelicans won't deal, so they have to
Speaker 1: wait until the off sea said. Then they trade for
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. The funny thing about Anthony Davis is they
Speaker 1: couldn't make a run at him as soon as Lebron
Speaker 1: got signed because the Pelicans had just swept Portlands in
Speaker 1: the first round and then they played the Warriors, won
Speaker 1: a game. That was the loaded Warrior team that ended
Speaker 1: up winning the title. But early on the next season,
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis dumps his agent, goes with Rich Paul. You
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna end up with the Lakers. They
Speaker 1: add Anthony Davis. Be a trade, you unload everybody. We'll
Speaker 1: give away everything we've got our foundation are to A players.
Speaker 1: And you saw that last night Game one, Anthony Davis
Speaker 1: thirty four nine, five assists, three blocks. I saw somebody
Speaker 1: saying he made Bam out of Bio look like a
Speaker 1: junior varsity player. Now Rob g kind of called that.
Speaker 1: Will check in on that later. Bam out of Bio,
Speaker 1: by the way, got injured. You do not want to
Speaker 1: see that. That sucks, But you're a player. Anthony Davis
Speaker 1: thirty four and nine. Your other a player on his
Speaker 1: way to being the greatest player in NBA history, lebron
Speaker 1: a home thirteen boards, nine assists. I mean, just an
Speaker 1: amazing performance from the eight players. But you, as I said,
Speaker 1: when you're starting the startup in Silicon Valley, you scale
Speaker 1: up with B plus players. So what did the Lakers
Speaker 1: scale up with. Well, they go out and who do
Speaker 1: they add? They add a guy like Danny Green. And
Speaker 1: I know people just how Danny Green stinks. He's washed, dude,
Speaker 1: He's got the veteran pedigree, been on championship teams with
Speaker 1: Toronto San Antonio. You add Danny Green, How Danny Green
Speaker 1: do in game one? Oh, look at that plus twenty one?
Speaker 1: Watch Danny Green? They say eleven points, four rebounds. Folks,
Speaker 1: Danny Green had three blocks. The entire Heat team had five.
Speaker 1: Danny Green was moving on defense coming around those greens.
Speaker 1: He's not letting Duncan Robinson get anything off. By the way,
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson zero points over three shooting, he might be
Speaker 1: unplayable in this series. Kendrick Nunn most like he's to
Speaker 1: get more minutes than doug Get Robinson. So you so
Speaker 1: the Lakers scaled up. Who did they get besides that
Speaker 1: B plus player in Danny Green? Will you go out
Speaker 1: and what do we do? We add a guy like Morris,
Speaker 1: Mark Keith Morris who can add some pop off the bench.
Speaker 1: Who can we get we can add? Oh, Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1: Look at that. Dwight Howard. Now he wasn't super effective
Speaker 1: in Game one, but he's been great in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And honestly, he did a lot of neutralizing of bam
Speaker 1: Adebayo when he was in there. And Dwight Howard is
Speaker 1: one of these guys who had had a great career
Speaker 1: and he went kind of sideways. He had a lot
Speaker 1: of side stuff going on. Um Towight Howard has been
Speaker 1: a model citizen. You know who else has been a
Speaker 1: model citizen or Gen Rondo. Okay, they had him the
Speaker 1: first year Lebron was there, and Rondo has been prickly
Speaker 1: in other spots. He's feuded with teammates, he's feuded with coaches.
Speaker 1: Go look up his incident with the MAVs where the
Speaker 1: coach called tried to tell him to call a play
Speaker 1: and he basically was like, bleep you in the middle
Speaker 1: of the court. And then that was it. Like it
Speaker 1: was ugly. He We know if you do with Dr Rivers,
Speaker 1: who's been a model citizen around Lebron and Anthony Davis,
Speaker 1: Gen Rondo, I mean, everything the Lakers have done, they've
Speaker 1: treated this team like a startup and essentially, folks, I know,
Speaker 1: Rob Polink is gonna get a lot of credit. Lebron
Speaker 1: James deserves a lot of credit for putting this team together.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at the history that
Speaker 1: Lebron entered here, I know the Lakers are the greatest
Speaker 1: franchise in NBA history. Sorry, Celtics fans, the Lakers have
Speaker 1: had the worst six year run in the history of
Speaker 1: the franchise prior to what Lebron has accomplished with Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis this year, Okay, it was ugly. The final Kobe
Speaker 1: years were very bad. It was bad. Lebron has pulled
Speaker 1: the greatest franchise in the league out of the depths
Speaker 1: and here they are up one nothing on the heat
Speaker 1: and listen, you never want to overreact, but this does
Speaker 1: not look super competitive. And I will end with this.
Speaker 1: There were two aspects to the startups that you really
Speaker 1: bring to the table. Number one, obviously, you start with
Speaker 1: eight players, scale up with the B plus guys. The
Speaker 1: second one is, and just remember this quote, you want
Speaker 1: to add guys who guys and girls to the startup
Speaker 1: who love this more than the kids they don't have yet.
Speaker 1: They really want everything in their power to get this title.
Speaker 1: They want to be the model citizen in the locker room.
Speaker 1: They want to diffuse situations on the court. Lebron needs
Speaker 1: a protector. My guy, Jared Dudley's gonna be out there,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean. Dwight Howard has been a model citizen.
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzman has gone through some ugly funks. He's not pouting.
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzman's his first year with the Lakers, he looked
Speaker 1: like a star in this league. I think he was
Speaker 1: like eighteen points a game. Kyle Kuzma has realized, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: if I don't have it, I don't have it. Kyle
Speaker 1: Kuzla did not have it in Game one, one for
Speaker 1: seven shooting. Guess what made a couple of nice passes,
Speaker 1: got eight rebounds, played some good defense, get in where
Speaker 1: you fit in, and I'm just so impressed with everything
Speaker 1: from the Lakers. Alex Caruso, this guy, listen to. Alex
Speaker 1: Cruiso is a marginal NBA player, but with Lebron he's
Speaker 1: gotta be on the court. Caruso coming off the bench,
Speaker 1: ten points, four rebounds. I'm telling you, guys, Alex Caruso
Speaker 1: wants this title. We've seen weaker teams mentally crumble in
Speaker 1: the bubble, the weak crumble, the Clippers mentally weak. Did
Speaker 1: they want it? They got the A players. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they necessarily scaled up with B plus the
Speaker 1: players around them, and how bad did they want it?
Speaker 1: Lou Williams left for Magic City and the Strippers montres Herrel.
Speaker 1: I know he had had to leave due to a
Speaker 1: passing in the family. He never got back into it.
Speaker 1: How much does Paul George want a title versus want
Speaker 1: to be a star and date the I G models.
Speaker 1: We saw the Bucks get punched in the mouth by
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat and they never respond never did I just, folks,
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I know I made a case here
Speaker 1: on the podcast Wednesday for the for of mym Heat
Speaker 1: to make a run and make this interesting. Maybe that
Speaker 1: was me being hopeful that we got a series here.
Speaker 1: But it's tough watching Game one to think that the
Speaker 1: Heat have much of a chance here, especially if there's
Speaker 1: no Goran Dragic with the foot injury, Bam out of
Speaker 1: Bio with the shoulder. It looks bleak. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: you do I want them to play, Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear this asterix junk. And that's the last
Speaker 1: thing before I brigg rob G and let's see if
Speaker 1: he revises his Lakers in five hashtag um. Last year,
Speaker 1: the Raptors took down the Warriors. I said the Warriors
Speaker 1: were the greatest dynasty in modern history, better than Jordan's Bulls.
Speaker 1: And then k D goes down and Clay goes down
Speaker 1: and they lose and it stinks. Um, listen, we want
Speaker 1: to play the cowas an all time great school. Why
Speaker 1: win the title? Last year of Kevin Durant Claire plan.
Speaker 1: Come on, So if you want to talk asterix for
Speaker 1: the Lakers for this, which I think is total boulder dash,
Speaker 1: you keep that same energy for the Raptors last year,
Speaker 1: all right, Rob, before you praised me for the two
Speaker 1: and oh in Best Bets as the Lakers roll, I'm
Speaker 1: just curious, do you want to revise to Lakers in
Speaker 1: four h Tyler Hero, your boy minus thirty five in
Speaker 1: Game one of the Finals, UM six for eighteen shooting.
Speaker 1: It don't look good? You mean Tyler Hero. I would
Speaker 1: not include in any trade for Yannis. I did the
Speaker 1: coopo Tyler Hero. That guy, that Tyler minus thirty five
Speaker 1: tied for the lowest plus minus by a player in
Speaker 1: any Finals games in two thousand. That Tyler Hero. Oh God,
Speaker 1: let's say it's not it's not his fault. Okay. He
Speaker 1: came in when they were up thirteen in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say he fell apart, but listen,
Speaker 1: maybe the moment was too big. Initially did have ten
Speaker 1: points I think in the second quarter. Uh, for a minute,
Speaker 1: it was interesting and then you know, um, I will
Speaker 1: not be re uh reneging on my Lakers in five
Speaker 1: prediction because that's not on brand for me. You know,
Speaker 1: I've already trade Mark Lakers in five. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: I can't really go back on it now. But as
Speaker 1: we found out late last night after the game, Gore
Speaker 1: and drags torn left planter Fascia and his foot. But
Speaker 1: this is what surprised me, because I know that we
Speaker 1: saw the injury. We knew was bad. So far, at
Speaker 1: least in the early hours of this morning, both mark
Speaker 1: Stein and Wos have reported that he has not been
Speaker 1: ruled out for the series yet. I don't know how
Speaker 1: he's gonna play on a torn left foot. Well, well,
Speaker 1: let's see, we'll find out. That's disappointing, man. I gotta
Speaker 1: say that's extremely disappointing. Bam out of Bio, he's got
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury. Listen, if Bam can't play, it's a wrap.
Speaker 1: I mean there's just zero chance, like absolutely zero chance
Speaker 1: that the heat can hang. Um, they have nobody to
Speaker 1: begin with now. They open with crowder on Anthony Davis,
Speaker 1: and it's not much of a matchup. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the answer is. I think you've got to trot
Speaker 1: out Myers Leonard and try that Kelly Olnick showed, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm the Lakers, I'm worried about him because of
Speaker 1: his history with injuring players, specifically Kevin Love Old Nick,
Speaker 1: who we joke as you know the cafeteria lady. Um,
Speaker 1: he's just kind of out of control and his limbs
Speaker 1: are always flailing. I don't want somebody else going down. Um.
Speaker 1: If I had to recommend one tweak, I would say you,
Speaker 1: I would try to start Kendrick Nunn because you need offense.
Speaker 1: I don't know if None can get stops on the
Speaker 1: defensive end, but I would start None and bring Robin
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson off the bench. I think he's got a
Speaker 1: better chance of hanging with the Lakers second unit guys
Speaker 1: like Alex Caruso and those guys, Um, rob G. Did
Speaker 1: you notice how many times Lebron got matched up with
Speaker 1: Hero and Robinson as you predicted, whether it was matchup,
Speaker 1: hunting or cross match whatever, It's like embarrassed. They didn't
Speaker 1: give any help to those guys. Lebron instantly attacked and
Speaker 1: it was like, I mean, it was lay up after
Speaker 1: lay up. Yeah, I mean we talked about this, you know,
Speaker 1: in the last week or so that there was just
Speaker 1: not of good matchups for the heat and this one,
Speaker 1: what they were going to have to do was to
Speaker 1: get really hot from three and hope that that zone
Speaker 1: defense kind of held up. Well, they started out really
Speaker 1: hot from three, and then once that kind of cooled off,
Speaker 1: I think there was a was a seventy five to
Speaker 1: thirty run ors thirty five. I get the exact numbers.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Lakers had made eleven three pointers
Speaker 1: by like halftime, right, I mean remember first game of
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think they were like, dude, we should
Speaker 1: go back and listen to that. Rob. I think they
Speaker 1: were like six for twenty two or five for twenty
Speaker 1: four ago, whatever it was against Portland's and like that.
Speaker 1: We had some panic back then. I think there was
Speaker 1: not total panic, but there was like, oh boy, do
Speaker 1: they have the shooting? You know? Right? And but you
Speaker 1: know what, even though they started out super hot in
Speaker 1: the first half, it's not like they continued in the
Speaker 1: second half. What the Lakers lent leaned on in the
Speaker 1: in Game one, which they've led on through the entire
Speaker 1: of the postseason. Their defense was outstanding. I mean, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler the only reason he had the numbers that he has.
Speaker 1: He was just making incredible shots. It wasn't like he
Speaker 1: was getting the looks that he wanted. He was thrown
Speaker 1: crashing into Danny Green's uh jaw with his elbow and
Speaker 1: then crashing into Dwight Howard and flipping shots up and
Speaker 1: making him so for the Lakers, I think that it
Speaker 1: was exactly what I thought it was gonna be. I
Speaker 1: know you're a little bit concerned. You started feeling like
Speaker 1: they might be the oh four Pistons, But hopefully you
Speaker 1: have seen the lights. Yeah. No, I mean, and if
Speaker 1: you guys can go back and listen to it, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I tried to build a case for the heat,
Speaker 1: and I think there I thought there was one. Let's
Speaker 1: see what happens to game too. I'm not gonna draw
Speaker 1: any sweeping conclusions, but I don't know where they make
Speaker 1: the twenty points that drug would leave if he's hurt
Speaker 1: and can't play like you can't. They don't have twenty
Speaker 1: points sitting on the bench there. But quickly before I
Speaker 1: wrap up, and we get to a great interview which
Speaker 1: Sean lights out Merriman, you guys are really going to
Speaker 1: enjoy this. Um, I just want to chime in on
Speaker 1: the best bet, So I had bet the Lakers in
Speaker 1: the first quarter or by one and a half. They
Speaker 1: were down thirteen at one point and down ten with
Speaker 1: two minutes left. If if you can watch the end
Speaker 1: of the first quarter on YouTube, folks, it was an
Speaker 1: incredible rally. The heat couldn't miss and then they couldn't
Speaker 1: make anything and with four seconds left, Crucio cash is
Speaker 1: the three. You should have heard the excitement in the
Speaker 1: McEntire household because I introduced my kids to gambling and
Speaker 1: showed them, you know, the cruiser shot, and my daughter's
Speaker 1: like yeah, and it was just an awesome feeling. So
Speaker 1: the Lakers roll best bet wins and onto Game two.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. Seawan Merriman. You
Speaker 1: remember him from this Chargers days, a dominant edge rusher.
Speaker 1: He's now got a podcast, Lights Out with Shawn Merriman,
Speaker 1: look kind of a long form football podcast. Sean, how
Speaker 1: are you, man? I'm doing pretty well man about myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: considering the circumstances, I'm I'm doing alright hanging in there.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you in the studio in a while.
Speaker 1: I just went back for the first time in six
Speaker 1: months last week. Man. It it's definitely weird. How how's
Speaker 1: COVID treating you? You know what? The first couple of
Speaker 1: months was was rough. It took a lot of getting
Speaker 1: used to but then you just got used to it, right,
Speaker 1: so now that things will open it back up, and
Speaker 1: like you said, getting back into the studio, it's like
Speaker 1: you're walking in like what the hell am I doing here?
Speaker 1: You know, I suppose to be at home in my
Speaker 1: living room or or you know, working from home. So uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess people want to go through a
Speaker 1: time where you're gonna have to un COVID all most
Speaker 1: of the way. Yeah, yeah, let's start with the COVID
Speaker 1: stuff obviously. Uh, they announced that Tennessee Pittsburgh was scheduled
Speaker 1: to be played Sunday. It's now been postponed to either
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday. And it's unco here were the Tennessee
Speaker 1: players contracted COVID. I guess they're doing the contact tracing
Speaker 1: at this point. Um, but I'm gonna ask you. You
Speaker 1: were a wealthy, famous, you know, big jacked guy, one
Speaker 1: of the more famous players on the Chargers during your prime, Sean.
Speaker 1: You're you're in your twenties, you're wealthy, you're famous. You know,
Speaker 1: women are throwing themselves at you. How tough would it
Speaker 1: have been for you in this COVID environment to kind
Speaker 1: of behave during during the downtime and just stay at
Speaker 1: home and do nothing extremely as you know, uh, And
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I started to think about. And
Speaker 1: if those rules was implemented on me. Now you know,
Speaker 1: now you're in your thirties, you're more mature, you understand
Speaker 1: the things that on the line, and you're not willing
Speaker 1: to risk it. I can do it now. But if
Speaker 1: you if you're talking to a three yeohean, right, I
Speaker 1: mean hell, Like I got drafted at twenty, I was
Speaker 1: one of the youngest drafted players ever and then being
Speaker 1: able to have all that all those things that access,
Speaker 1: I don't think that I would be able to to
Speaker 1: do it. I'll be quite honest. You know you're looking
Speaker 1: at uh being able to be in that position for
Speaker 1: the first time in your life, right, I mean I
Speaker 1: grew up in prince Ordish County, Maryland. We didn't have
Speaker 1: much at all growing up, and then you go to
Speaker 1: college and the first things you think about and all
Speaker 1: the things you want to do with uh, you know,
Speaker 1: everything you earned, all your all your success and as
Speaker 1: being being able to travel, being able to have your
Speaker 1: friends and family coming to town and stay in and
Speaker 1: go to your games and be around people and then
Speaker 1: you're telling the twenty one, twenty two year old, Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, you can't do this stuff, and so
Speaker 1: I don't. I honestly don't think I would have been
Speaker 1: able to do it. Then. Um, so I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: that this is happening, because we knew this is gonna happen. Uh.
Speaker 1: The whole object of it was to start this season up.
Speaker 1: Let's see we can get accomplished. Let's get as much
Speaker 1: as done as we possibly can. But it's almost next
Speaker 1: thing possible for this not to happen at all. I
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about your former team. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll get to your second team, the Buffalo Bills, but
Speaker 1: let's start with the Chargers. I enjoyed your podcast with
Speaker 1: Dr Chow about the Tyrod Taylor situation. Just you know,
Speaker 1: you feel really bad for Tyrod. But I want to
Speaker 1: spend it and talk about Justin Herbert, who I thought
Speaker 1: was impressive in the opener against the Chiefs. Now there
Speaker 1: was no tape on him and he was able to
Speaker 1: move the football. I don't know about it Will, but
Speaker 1: very easily then comes out against Carolina and bit of
Speaker 1: a turnover machine. They nearly pulled the game off. But
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you've seen from Herbert the first two
Speaker 1: weeks and how do you handicap him going down to Tampa.
Speaker 1: Tampa apparently is gonna have fans this week. Um, what
Speaker 1: do you think about his chances against a really, really
Speaker 1: good Tampa defense? You know, I like it. And with
Speaker 1: surprising about Herbert is people are surprised. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: look at him and look the reason why they drapped him,
Speaker 1: and nothing against Tyrod. I mean, ty Rod has been
Speaker 1: a proven player in NFL. He's proved that he can
Speaker 1: win football games. But you don't draft the quarterback that
Speaker 1: early in the draft and you don't have plans to
Speaker 1: play him. My only thing was is that outside of
Speaker 1: his injury, Tyrod tell his injury, and outside of everything
Speaker 1: that happened with the doctor and outside of all of
Speaker 1: at you don't want to rush the rookie and that
Speaker 1: having to play. That was the whole goal of having
Speaker 1: Tyrod there. If that wasn't the case, you don't keep
Speaker 1: him there on that team. You draft a guy and
Speaker 1: you get him ready during the off season and you
Speaker 1: put him on the philis fast you can. You know,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and some of these guys who came in
Speaker 1: and they were ready to play football. And that's how
Speaker 1: I look at Justin Herbert. You know, he has that
Speaker 1: type of ability that Andrew Luck did, being able to
Speaker 1: come into the NFL and throw for three hundred plus yards.
Speaker 1: You expect him to throw the ball, throw some turnovers,
Speaker 1: and and and try to force a little bit. One
Speaker 1: of the past is that he had when he kind
Speaker 1: of threw across his body and the double coverage, didn't
Speaker 1: see the dB and just took his eyes off of
Speaker 1: the target. Those things are gonna happen, but those things
Speaker 1: you can fix. What I just don't want to see
Speaker 1: happen is is that everybody's saying, oh, well, he threw
Speaker 1: for three hundred plush yards back to back games, let's
Speaker 1: let's start them for what what do you what do
Speaker 1: you rushing for? He's he's going to be the guy
Speaker 1: for the next five six plus years. Why rush him
Speaker 1: right now? When you have it qualified quarterback and Tyrod
Speaker 1: And if ty Rock goes out there and starts thinking
Speaker 1: of joining up, then go ahead and make the decision.
Speaker 1: But you know, just because he don't play as well
Speaker 1: as Justin Herbert right now, off of these last couple
Speaker 1: of games, there's no need to rush them. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: that that's a good point because when you think about
Speaker 1: the Chargers window, remember I think it was two years
Speaker 1: ago they went to the playoffs, uh, and they beat
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and then they lost to the Patriots badly.
Speaker 1: But it looked like this was a team that had
Speaker 1: arrived and they were legit contenders. Obviously, they backslided badly
Speaker 1: last year with Rivers, but it feels like the window
Speaker 1: is maybe now. I mean, I know, Derwin James is
Speaker 1: hurt and Ingram's hurt, and they lost Chris Harris, which
Speaker 1: is bad. But otherwise you look at that roster, sean,
Speaker 1: that's a that should be a playoff team, right. No,
Speaker 1: the only problem that they're gonna run it too is
Speaker 1: you got that guy down in Kansas City that is
Speaker 1: slinging the ball left and right, so you know that's
Speaker 1: what you're gonna be batting. But look at it. They
Speaker 1: played well against Kanser. They probably should have won that
Speaker 1: game against Kansas City. In Kansas City, what they did
Speaker 1: to you know, to the Ravens, it looked like two
Speaker 1: different teams. Um. So you know, with that all being said,
Speaker 1: they're built to have long term success, and all the
Speaker 1: guys you just named there are gonna be there for
Speaker 1: for some time. Melvin Ingram, I think just re restructure
Speaker 1: this Bill, Joey Boss, this Bill, Kenneth Mary, that rookie
Speaker 1: number fifty six. That dude is a straight baller. He's explosive,
Speaker 1: he's all around the field. Obviously you lost Chris and
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that dropped and went down early.
Speaker 1: But look at the team. They just resigned Austin a
Speaker 1: clerk to a longer term deal. That team is built
Speaker 1: to be good for the next two or three years. Now. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you want to win now, you you know, want to
Speaker 1: go out and put yourself in the best position. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't start panicking because a couple of guys go down,
Speaker 1: and you know Tyrod's out right now you got a
Speaker 1: rookie uh that needs to catch up to everything. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't panic because they're built to be a really good
Speaker 1: team for the next couple of years. You know, you
Speaker 1: go to your second team that you played for, the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. They've got a quarterback. I guess kind of
Speaker 1: similar to Herbert Josh Allen. Uh. He took a lot
Speaker 1: of heat. The first couple of years I knew Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey Uh talked a lot of trash, said he was
Speaker 1: a garbage quarterback. And you know, Josh Allen just three
Speaker 1: yard games to start the season kind of looks like
Speaker 1: an m VP candidate. I'm gonna as an edge rusher.
Speaker 1: How did you handle the scrambling, more mobile quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot of now with Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Herbert,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen as opposed to the pocket guys who I
Speaker 1: don't want to say they were dying breach on, but
Speaker 1: like the Brady and Peyton Manning guys kind of are fading. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know he's another one. I don't understand how
Speaker 1: people are surprised when you know. When the Chargers played
Speaker 1: them back in Buffalo a couple of years ago, I
Speaker 1: wanted that game because both of my former teams out
Speaker 1: they're playing. So I came out there and show love
Speaker 1: and and and wanted to see my out the old organization,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to see the both of the teams
Speaker 1: get after it. And I'm looking at Josh Allen before
Speaker 1: the game throw the ball, and I'm looking at his
Speaker 1: just his mechanics, his presidence in the way he commands it,
Speaker 1: a tension and authority of that of that team. This
Speaker 1: This was a guy that I knew looking at automatically
Speaker 1: that he was gonna be a leader for a long time.
Speaker 1: And now you throw a Stefon Diggs in, They're like, crap,
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do this guy? You know, if you
Speaker 1: keep those guys together for the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: Um and the way they're playing, yeah, you don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. Cam Newton is playing well. The patients are
Speaker 1: playing well. They don't They're doing things, but they're not
Speaker 1: the same team with Tom Brady being there. They're not
Speaker 1: They're not that dominant, so they actually have a chance
Speaker 1: to win in that division, to come out on top.
Speaker 1: I gotta talk about my favorite team seawan, the New
Speaker 1: York Jets. Uh, listen, it's bad. It's ugly. They're oh
Speaker 1: and three. They play the Denver Broncos also and three. Listen.
Speaker 1: As a longtime Jets fan, I had season tickets for
Speaker 1: a minute. Uh. I gotta say, everything I've heard coming
Speaker 1: out of that locker room is bad. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you know, if anything about Adam Gaye, but I'm
Speaker 1: just curious how if you were on any really bad
Speaker 1: teams when the team started slow and maybe there was
Speaker 1: chatter about the coach getting fired, how do you think
Speaker 1: or A, how did you handle that if you were
Speaker 1: in one of those, and B how do you think
Speaker 1: the players are dealing with it? Well? You know, I
Speaker 1: call it the trickle down effects. So you got Adam
Speaker 1: Gates there that uh, that is losing a lot of respect. Uh,
Speaker 1: not just in the locker room, but in the organization
Speaker 1: outside of the organization, and how he's carrying on and
Speaker 1: some of the things he's saying. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that I always look at the coach in that
Speaker 1: leadership is when things go wrong or things are bad,
Speaker 1: and the key is on you, and who do you
Speaker 1: start to point to blame on. If you don't point
Speaker 1: to blame on yourself, it shows me that you're not
Speaker 1: a great coach, You're not a great leader, You're not
Speaker 1: what that team is looking for. I just feel bad
Speaker 1: for Sam Donald because this is the guy that you
Speaker 1: put him around a great coach. You give give him
Speaker 1: some some ore weapons and he can go win a
Speaker 1: lot of games for you. And if they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: be looking like this for some time now. Sam Donald
Speaker 1: needs to get the hell out of there. And I
Speaker 1: would whatever team is, uh, you know, quarterback away from
Speaker 1: being great, you know, go there. I would. If I
Speaker 1: was another team, I would be throwing the house to
Speaker 1: get him out of there. Whatever you guys, you want
Speaker 1: to first round draft picks and the third take it,
Speaker 1: give me Sam Donald. I would give that up for
Speaker 1: him because obviously he can play, and he's a bright
Speaker 1: spot for that organization. But you know, he's about the
Speaker 1: only thing. And I can't even blame the players because
Speaker 1: the coaches. You know, it's stocks at the top, and
Speaker 1: so the coach is not willing to take responsibuilding and
Speaker 1: command that team, then you're gonna lose the locker room.
Speaker 1: And that's happening right now. Yeah, let me ask you
Speaker 1: about the whole Donald situation. So we saw Marcus Mariotta
Speaker 1: and Jamis Winston go one to in the draft, okay,
Speaker 1: and they each had their chance three or four or
Speaker 1: five years with the organization. Mariota won one playoff game,
Speaker 1: beat beat Casey on the road. But you know they're
Speaker 1: their deals up and they move on now their backups,
Speaker 1: Like I like Donald a lot and we think he's
Speaker 1: got potential. Uh, we really don't know because this is
Speaker 1: his second coach and this guy stinks. But isn't there
Speaker 1: a scenario where three years down the road, Sam Donald's
Speaker 1: back up along the lines of Mariotta or Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: The only way he's a backup if he stays in
Speaker 1: that organization long enough where he's tainted, where he has
Speaker 1: that uh, that dark cloud is carrying over him. And
Speaker 1: you hate to see that because you know, when you
Speaker 1: got a quarterback, do you know they can play? It's
Speaker 1: only a matter of time before they get beat up
Speaker 1: and beat up and beat up. But I'm not just
Speaker 1: talking about physically. I'm talking about the media hounding them
Speaker 1: and and and people around the ly thinking that it's
Speaker 1: him and he can't play. He's stuck in a very
Speaker 1: bad situation. I've seen that that Juju Smith came out
Speaker 1: and saying what he said, that he would love him
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I thought that was a hell of a
Speaker 1: thing to say. And there's really no shot at Ben.
Speaker 1: But look Ben got another year two years max, right,
Speaker 1: So you you bring Sam Donald, then you started making
Speaker 1: that transition because the Steelers can pick up right when
Speaker 1: they left off that where Ben Roethlisberg was playing exceptionally well.
Speaker 1: And whether it's the stealers or somebody else, you could
Speaker 1: be you know, Miami. And don't get me wrong, Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: I love, I love fitz I played in the Buffalo,
Speaker 1: but you know he's a journeyman. He's bouncing around a
Speaker 1: several chains. But Sam Donald is a franchise quarterback and
Speaker 1: I hate to see him stuck in that situation. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you about another quarterback, Sean um Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: and listen, I came out after his performance another another good, big,
Speaker 1: big stats game, but it didn't come up with the victory.
Speaker 1: I know he's down offensive lineman, I know the defense stinks,
Speaker 1: but I compared him to Matt Stafford. I said, listen, man,
Speaker 1: this guy puts up monster stats. He's always got his
Speaker 1: team in the game, but at the end, when they
Speaker 1: have a chance, he comes up empty. He's now six
Speaker 1: and eighteen in the last three years against teams with
Speaker 1: winning records. And Jerry Jones came out the next day
Speaker 1: and was like, you know, Pat Mahomes wins these close games,
Speaker 1: and Tony Romo won those close games, and it felt
Speaker 1: like a shot at Dac. I'm curious where you come
Speaker 1: in on dec is the Matthew Stafford thing accurate or
Speaker 1: is he not at that level above that? And and
Speaker 1: your thoughts on maybe Dallas whether or not they should
Speaker 1: pay Dak. Yeah, Dak Prescott is not. Not a better
Speaker 1: quarterback than Matthew Stafford. He's not. And one thing I'll
Speaker 1: say about Dac, He's a great lead. Uh. He plays,
Speaker 1: he lays it on the line, He'll do all the
Speaker 1: things that you need him to do. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, he's an above average quarterback. Uh.
Speaker 1: He needs offensive line, he needs a running back, and
Speaker 1: needs a wide receiver, and he needs a defensive go
Speaker 1: off there and played well in order from them to
Speaker 1: win the championship. Matthew Stafford, in my opinion, was stuck
Speaker 1: in a bad organization. It's a it's a Sam Donald situation.
Speaker 1: Were just finished talking about, Um, Matthew Stafford. I've seen
Speaker 1: him throw the ball in the off season around and
Speaker 1: then I can tell you he could slang it. He's
Speaker 1: a He was a damn good quarterback that was stuck
Speaker 1: into a bad situation where the work in the organization
Speaker 1: just lost over and over again. Um. He didn't have
Speaker 1: the best running back in football. He didn't have the
Speaker 1: best when healthy, the best offensive line in football, and
Speaker 1: you know defense. But I think Alvin Smith right now
Speaker 1: is leading NFL and and sacks, and you know you
Speaker 1: got de Marcus Longs. They just gave a big contract too.
Speaker 1: And and those two inside linebackers that when they're healthy
Speaker 1: that you know the best too, tandem inside linebackers and football.
Speaker 1: This this he's they built a great team around Doc.
Speaker 1: So they should be good for nine and ten games
Speaker 1: minimum winning every year, just by the just by the
Speaker 1: team that they built. Sometimes it's the coaches. So listen
Speaker 1: a lot of the former NFL players, they come out
Speaker 1: and all they do is say positive stuff. I said,
Speaker 1: you know Sean Merriman, he will keep it real. So
Speaker 1: I want you to give me the most underrated quarterback
Speaker 1: in the league right now and the most overrated Well
Speaker 1: that's you can you can you can mention your boy Rivers.
Speaker 1: I know you like Rivers. He's got a big game
Speaker 1: this weekend again against the Bears. Well, you know, Rivers,
Speaker 1: I think just just hit that four touchdown record, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, in order to do that, that's that's just incredible. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know, he had one one bad game so
Speaker 1: far this year, so I can't really paneling him too
Speaker 1: much in it. It's really hard to say. I think that, Um,
Speaker 1: then that maybe Matt Ryan has been overrated, you know,
Speaker 1: m because they've just blown so many late game leads
Speaker 1: and given up and know that you can hop on
Speaker 1: the coach all you want to, but those are games
Speaker 1: that they should have won. Um, you know it's underrated.
Speaker 1: It's it's I don't know, man, it's a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys that, um you Joe look at I look at
Speaker 1: Joe Barrow. I mean, this is another this is another
Speaker 1: guy that's this Uh. I know he's a rookie or whatnot,
Speaker 1: but I think he's he might be also stuck in
Speaker 1: the organization where you know, they're not putting the tools
Speaker 1: and and the things around him and not to guard
Speaker 1: and went football games and he's gonna be there taking
Speaker 1: a beating a little bit. So I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: It's I don't I never really call guys underrated. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry overrated as much because you know, you got
Speaker 1: these people on the street that just say, oh, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: that guy sucks right. Well, let me tell you that
Speaker 1: second of third string quarterback is the best quarterback that
Speaker 1: you'll ever meet in your life. That third string. So
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't really say overrated guys,
Speaker 1: but you know when I look at the Falcons and
Speaker 1: and some of the games they've blown this year, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you can put some of that on
Speaker 1: the coach and the decision making, uh there. But you know,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan got to step it up, man, he really does.
Speaker 1: And it's and it's different than basketball, where there's only
Speaker 1: five guys and the star is reliant upon everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: football special teams. You know, defense matters, coaching, and I
Speaker 1: want you you hit on something interesting, um, sean, these
Speaker 1: bad organizations, you know, if you get drafted into a
Speaker 1: bad one and the owner stinks, doesn't care, the coaches
Speaker 1: are constantly being rotated. Are you surprised we don't see
Speaker 1: more NFL players kind of demand their way out of
Speaker 1: town the way we see in the National Basketball Association.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna start happening. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: start happening something, especially with the bigger contracts and the
Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts and those things happening. Um, you know, typically
Speaker 1: in the past new football, it's out of sight, out
Speaker 1: of mind and come and go. It's you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of say so and what happens
Speaker 1: with your career, and those things are changing. You know,
Speaker 1: guys like Patrick Mahomes is changing the game, you know,
Speaker 1: signing those big else like that, and you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna have more say so in that organization of what
Speaker 1: happens to the future that organization than anybody has before
Speaker 1: in the past. You know, you signed a seven or
Speaker 1: eight year deal. How a long that deal was for
Speaker 1: clost a half a billion dollars. Yeah, you can. You
Speaker 1: can be a little bit more vocal about what's going on.
Speaker 1: So I think that that's gonna happen. Um, and guys
Speaker 1: are gonna get vocal. And then two, because fans and
Speaker 1: the people watching the game are understanding the business aspect,
Speaker 1: it would happened. These guys aren't gonna be called cry
Speaker 1: babies anymore or you're ungrateful. No, it's like no, yes,
Speaker 1: if Sam Donald complains about getting out of the Jet organization,
Speaker 1: he might have a valid point. Hell, you can play.
Speaker 1: Let let him go play for us. We can win.
Speaker 1: So before we tape Sean. I was reading up about
Speaker 1: your background and you know, I met you in the studio.
Speaker 1: You are a large human being, you know what six
Speaker 1: five to fifty. I mean, you're jacked. And I was
Speaker 1: reading about your nickname lights out, um, and that you
Speaker 1: got it from like high school football game where you
Speaker 1: were just terrorizing the other team. I mean, do you
Speaker 1: actually remember that you said PG County, right, yeah, Prince
Speaker 1: George's County. Yeah, I do. Um. And you know, the
Speaker 1: funny thing is is that YouTube and all the Internet
Speaker 1: and social media wasn't big back then. And uh and
Speaker 1: and I'm glad it wasn't because I was I wouldn't
Speaker 1: probably be allowed in the field today, uh, you know
Speaker 1: in the day's game because uh yeah, I knocked out
Speaker 1: four guys to my sophomore in high school. And I
Speaker 1: never yeah, I never forget. I had about twenties students
Speaker 1: come running up to me after the game said, oh,
Speaker 1: you knocked those guys lights out, And I just simply
Speaker 1: blurt it out and said, hey, just you call me
Speaker 1: lights out. And that stuck with me through high school,
Speaker 1: the rest of high school and the rest of college
Speaker 1: and then to the pros. Four guys and you were
Speaker 1: playing what defensive end or tackle or No. I was
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy eight pound middle linebacker. Hundred seven
Speaker 1: and that's still pretty big. And in sophomore in high school,
Speaker 1: was it the speed or were you as tall as
Speaker 1: six four back then? Yeah? I was six ft one
Speaker 1: seventy eight and I was flying around like a safety.
Speaker 1: And you know this is where I said the separate
Speaker 1: guys all the time, right, it's the separate guys. It's
Speaker 1: not the athleticism, it's not the speed and power and
Speaker 1: those things. It's your mentality. It's it's the way you
Speaker 1: play the game. And I played the game the way
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be played. Play sidline the sideline.
Speaker 1: And if you go back and watch anyone in my films,
Speaker 1: I'm going over the top of every pile and I'm
Speaker 1: finishing every play and diving the scratching this ground. And
Speaker 1: that was that was my attitude. Man. I wanted people
Speaker 1: to when you turn on the film and you watch
Speaker 1: on the I was moving at a different speed and
Speaker 1: I was willing to go through another man no matter what.
Speaker 1: And where do you think you got that mentality? Sorry? Well,
Speaker 1: for one, you know, I grew up in PG County
Speaker 1: man we um. You know, we was left homeless a
Speaker 1: few different times. We had lost our house to fires.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've grown up and I lived in
Speaker 1: shelters and back to cars and and for me, it
Speaker 1: was it was a mentality that I didn't I never
Speaker 1: wanted to go back to that place again. I never
Speaker 1: wanted had to fight and home and not know if
Speaker 1: your lights was gonna be on. You didn't have food
Speaker 1: on the table, if you know, you had to go
Speaker 1: and borrow money from somebody to eat. And so when
Speaker 1: you grow up with that, uh, that that that mentality,
Speaker 1: it lingers and it stays with you to uh to
Speaker 1: just kind of let it all out. And the feel
Speaker 1: like that was my escategot those two hours. I hadn't
Speaker 1: practiced in my high school coaches if you reached out
Speaker 1: to them now, and they would tell you the same thing.
Speaker 1: It was certain days they would not let me hit
Speaker 1: with my teammates because I had one speed and they
Speaker 1: didn't want me to injury anybody. And those all the
Speaker 1: true stories I wouldn't, you know. And I still talked
Speaker 1: to all my high school teammates and coaches, and that
Speaker 1: was just my mentality and my approach to the game. So,
Speaker 1: so were your Was your dad a football player of
Speaker 1: any kinder? You know my dad? So I didn't know
Speaker 1: my dad much growing up, but my dad ran track
Speaker 1: in high school. My mom played basketball, so I kind
Speaker 1: of got the mix of those two. And out of
Speaker 1: the blue, I was playing basketball first. I was fillowing
Speaker 1: out of every damn game. And the basketball coach said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we got a sport for you, Well,
Speaker 1: you won't file out. So I tried out football, and uh,
Speaker 1: I just knew I was home. What was your position?
Speaker 1: And when you were playing basketball? I was a small
Speaker 1: sport and power for it. Um. Actually I played all
Speaker 1: way through high school. I was all defensive team. And
Speaker 1: we actually I played in the same through the same
Speaker 1: au as a lot of Michael Beasley and Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: We all came from the same area, we all played,
Speaker 1: came through played for DC assault UM, which a lot
Speaker 1: of people know back home in in PG County, so
Speaker 1: we all we I played basketball first, man, I was, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't like comparing myself. If I was anybody, I
Speaker 1: was like Ben Wallace, right, I was, I was gonna
Speaker 1: get you get tendor twelve points. You know, tendor twelve
Speaker 1: boards and some blocks and stills and or whatnot. So
Speaker 1: I made the All Defensive team and and um, you know,
Speaker 1: PG County in the d m V area's flooded with
Speaker 1: basketball toiland, So to be up there with those guys
Speaker 1: and be able to play on the teams and compete, man,
Speaker 1: was was funny. Yeah, I'm I'm from the Northern Virginia area,
Speaker 1: so I'm very familiar with that. Obviously, I wasn't an
Speaker 1: a AU basketball player. But so so when did you
Speaker 1: make the transition from basketball to let let me just
Speaker 1: go football? Is a coach saying, dude, you foul too much?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was. I didn't have a choice. It
Speaker 1: was like, you might be a little too angry for
Speaker 1: this sport over here. Let's let me try you over
Speaker 1: some somewhere where you can let out some maica. So
Speaker 1: I think I was around eleven years old, tenor eleven
Speaker 1: years old when I kind of I became like a
Speaker 1: dual sport type of deal. Um, you know, I thought
Speaker 1: about wrestling in high school because it was, you know,
Speaker 1: another thing I wanted to really get good at. My
Speaker 1: wrestling coach still we still talk to this day about, man,
Speaker 1: you should have wrestled, because obviously I meant to m May.
Speaker 1: Now I got my immitting league with Lightside Extreme Fighting
Speaker 1: also over there on Fox Sports that Fox Sports picked
Speaker 1: up last May. So you know, I just finished barring.
Speaker 1: Right now I go and I, you know, get me um. Well.
Speaker 1: Actually the day I had some grappling and rolling around,
Speaker 1: so I got about an hour and twenty minutes on
Speaker 1: the mat, which is which is hell. So it is
Speaker 1: that one of the outlets for you to get rid
Speaker 1: of some of that anger or has the anger subsided
Speaker 1: now that you're you know, into your thirties. No, So
Speaker 1: this is what I tell a lot of guys. And
Speaker 1: we have in my league, Lights Out of Extreme Fighting.
Speaker 1: We have guys transitioning over from football, uh and other
Speaker 1: sports to m m A. And I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: bridge that gap. And that that's why the Lights Out
Speaker 1: podcast now because me being able to talk about this
Speaker 1: stuff because I was training. Actually I started training m
Speaker 1: m A with Jay Glazer between two thousand five and
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I walked in there. He wanted
Speaker 1: to show me some things, and I'll never forget me
Speaker 1: walking in there in the first day of me trying
Speaker 1: to learn some m and ay I walked in Randy
Speaker 1: coaturwards there and so I said, hold on, I hope
Speaker 1: you don't think and I'm getting here and spam Randy
Speaker 1: tore today that's just not gonna happen. Uh So anyway,
Speaker 1: I just you know, it was so many similarities and
Speaker 1: so many things that you can translate from the m
Speaker 1: M A from the sport of m and made to football,
Speaker 1: using your hands, being violent with your hands and using
Speaker 1: me a leverage as a past rusher. Um, really why
Speaker 1: I came out in that two thousand six years because
Speaker 1: I just got really really good with my hands and
Speaker 1: nothing like that stamming in there. You're not hot ruining,
Speaker 1: you're grappling and you're rolling around and you're punching and
Speaker 1: you're you know all this stuff. It Trent, It was
Speaker 1: easy for me to make that transition. So now with
Speaker 1: with lights out extreme fighting with Miami may League, we
Speaker 1: have right now like Chris McCain who played for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: played defensive and he played for Miami and I think
Speaker 1: he think had a short stent with the coach there.
Speaker 1: Uh he's a three and o amateur, you know, in
Speaker 1: in my league. And I think that if he if
Speaker 1: he stays on on the course of doing what he's doing,
Speaker 1: you know you're looking at the next Jon Jones. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has that type of ability. But there's gonna be more. Guys.
Speaker 1: I've talked to you. I talked to one or two
Speaker 1: guys a week about, you know, getting into combat sports.
Speaker 1: And then most importantly, the big thing I talked to
Speaker 1: about guys, we've been in the atmosphere, in the locker
Speaker 1: room atmosphere for fifteen plus years. You're around this team
Speaker 1: and if you talk to any former athlete, the first
Speaker 1: thing they'll tell you one thing they missed about the game,
Speaker 1: being in the locker room with the teams, being in
Speaker 1: practice after game, being on the team bus, and being
Speaker 1: on the team plane. They'll tell you that that's what
Speaker 1: they missed the most. And when you're done, that part
Speaker 1: of it is gone. It is not there anymore. You
Speaker 1: don't have that camaraderie. So getting into a combat sport,
Speaker 1: not only one of you're competing, but you're around guys again.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm in there and I'm sparring different guys.
Speaker 1: I'm rolling around with different guys. You fifteen twenty different people.
Speaker 1: Um in one room and you get that uh best
Speaker 1: filling again and it just you know, gives you something
Speaker 1: to compete to keep everything else going. Wow. Congrats Sewn,
Speaker 1: that's awesome man, and congrats on the league in the
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Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching
Speaker 1: the game. He's making money while you do it. Yet, Alright,
Speaker 1: it's time for the best bet here Thursday night football,
Speaker 1: And when it involves my team, I'm gonna go a
Speaker 1: little bit longer than normal. My New York Jets. Uh,
Speaker 1: Folks Like, I don't know how to put this politely,
Speaker 1: but just talking about the Jets makes me really freaking angry.
Speaker 1: You know. It's one thing when you go into the
Speaker 1: season with optimism that happens every year. It's another when
Speaker 1: three weeks in you know the season's over and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be changes and there needs to be changes. But
Speaker 1: the problem is you're basically pressing the damn reset button.
Speaker 1: So I think I've told this story before. I don't
Speaker 1: know about on the podcast, but certainly on my Saturday
Speaker 1: radio show. So back when I had the big lead
Speaker 1: and I was like on the come up or whatever,
Speaker 1: I started a podcast. That was when that Steph Curry
Speaker 1: was my first ever guest. This was before Steph Curry
Speaker 1: had won a title and m v P any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. He was in his earl, maybe his third
Speaker 1: or fourth year, right around the time he signed that
Speaker 1: eighty four million dollar extension that turned out to be
Speaker 1: like the greatest um on the cheap extension ever and
Speaker 1: it helped the Warriors load up. I started to bring
Speaker 1: on Jets beat writers onto my podcast, and I was
Speaker 1: beating up the Jets because I was upset. And the
Speaker 1: New York Jets must have noticed, because one day I
Speaker 1: go to the mailbox and I get something from the
Speaker 1: New York Jets and it is season tickets, four of them,
Speaker 1: and two parking passes for the entire season. Now there's
Speaker 1: still some discussion internally, meaning in my head, um, whether
Speaker 1: or not this was a mistake. Um. And it's funny
Speaker 1: because I had to find someone who had season tickets
Speaker 1: for the Jets, take a picture of my tickets, send
Speaker 1: it to and be like, Yo, is this legit? And
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, that's real. Um. What may have happened
Speaker 1: and this is just speculation I've never followed up is
Speaker 1: um the big lead was under the purview of USA Today.
Speaker 1: They were at the time renting the website with the
Speaker 1: option to buy, and USA Today had some kind of
Speaker 1: deal marketing deal with either the Jets or the Giants
Speaker 1: or both, and I suppose they were sending tickets to
Speaker 1: USA Today and somehow they got rerouted to me, or
Speaker 1: someone who maybe at USA Today knew and said, hey,
Speaker 1: Jason's the Jets fan, let's send him to him, or
Speaker 1: the Jets made the executive call. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: water under the bridge. Bottom line, I love this team.
Speaker 1: This is my favorite sports team to root for. I
Speaker 1: like the Lakers a lot, I like the Knicks a lot.
Speaker 1: Jets on my team. I was born in New York,
Speaker 1: grew up in d C, and everybody in the d
Speaker 1: C area loved the Washington Redskins. I said, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not. I've never been to follow the
Speaker 1: crowd guy ever in my life in anything, and so
Speaker 1: I wrote the Jets at the time was Kenny O'Brien,
Speaker 1: Al Tuon, Wesley Walker, Mark Gastino, the New York Sack Exchange.
Speaker 1: I love those Jets teams. A lot of losses, a
Speaker 1: lot of failure and what I've developed some contacts in
Speaker 1: and around the team. I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of Jets fans and sports media, So
Speaker 1: maybe I got lucky. What I've heard, if the Jets
Speaker 1: lose this game, Adam Gays will be fired within forty
Speaker 1: eight hours after the defeat forty eight hours. If the
Speaker 1: Jets lose to Brett Ripping, that's the starter for dinner.
Speaker 1: If the Jets lose this game, Gaze is toast. He
Speaker 1: not only has lost the locker room, but he's most
Speaker 1: concerning Lee lost the front office because if you remember,
Speaker 1: Adam Gaye said, yeah, let's bring in Joe Douglas. I
Speaker 1: I know him, I like him. Let's go. Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: comes over from Philly where he helped build the Eagles
Speaker 1: into a pretty nice title contender. Not only do they
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, they kept going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They had an awesome roster. And it's funny you look
Speaker 1: at the Eagles this year, oh two and one, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, their front office keeps getting poached, and
Speaker 1: they're coaching staff keeps getting poached, and now it's just
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz and they don't look as
Speaker 1: good at any rate. I don't have a name yet
Speaker 1: for the Jets job. I'm told Eric B. Enemy is
Speaker 1: not going to be the guy, apparently, and Eric B
Speaker 1: Enemy is I don't know about ticketed, but locked into
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and I don't know if they go
Speaker 1: down um to the Packers this weekend if dan Quinn
Speaker 1: gets gets fired. But I'm told Eric b Enemy is
Speaker 1: the clubhouse leader by a mile there and hopefully I'll
Speaker 1: have some names for you later, uh after Gays has fired,
Speaker 1: if the Jets loses, and and I'll be able to
Speaker 1: come up with some names. But I actually am betting
Speaker 1: on the Jets in this game. So it's it's a
Speaker 1: weird conflicted thing. I kind of want Gays to be
Speaker 1: gone because he hasn't done any of the right things.
Speaker 1: He never says the right thing. He blames others, as
Speaker 1: Sean Merriman said earlier, instead of blaming himself. Um, this
Speaker 1: offensive genius label is a joke. Uh. The offense is pedestrian.
Speaker 1: I know they don't have skilled position players. I got it. Um,
Speaker 1: there are the g M. Douglas is un doing what
Speaker 1: the previous guy did and you know their their second
Speaker 1: round pick, Denzel Mims. They were expecting a lot from
Speaker 1: him this year hasn't played a freaking snap because of
Speaker 1: an injury. Um. And again, if you look at my
Speaker 1: tweets in like the middle of August, I said, Denzel
Speaker 1: Mims is the serious injury to worry about. People were like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's practicing. You don't know what you're talking about. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I'm just I told you back in the middle of August,
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims is hurt. That's the thing that is not good.
Speaker 1: And here we are October one. Mims hasn't played a
Speaker 1: snap anyways. I am taking the Jets because, frankly, folks,
Speaker 1: I don't think they can lose this game. There's just
Speaker 1: no way. The players have too much pride to lose
Speaker 1: to Brett Rippon. And I had to do my homework
Speaker 1: on Brett Rippon. Of course, he's not the son of
Speaker 1: Mark Rippen, the former Washington Redskins quarterback who won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's the nephew of Mark Rippon. Uh. Rippon
Speaker 1: was of course the Super Bowl m v P when
Speaker 1: they beat the Broncos. Like ten no, no, that was
Speaker 1: Doug Williams. I'm sorry, my bad ripping. I forget who
Speaker 1: they beat, but um, I think it was one maybe
Speaker 1: um Brett Rippon. His father was a minor league pitcher
Speaker 1: with the Blue Jays. Um and Brett Rippon went to
Speaker 1: Boise State and was a good quarterback. He won a
Speaker 1: lot of games. This guy's a four year starter. Is
Speaker 1: funny story. He goes in as a true freshman, the
Speaker 1: starter goes down. You guys are familiar with his name,
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley, and Brett Rippon refuses to give up the job.
Speaker 1: He played so well, So Finley ends up transferring, transferring
Speaker 1: to NC State. He then gets into the NFL and
Speaker 1: Brett Rippon lo and behold, here we are. He's in
Speaker 1: the league, and uh, there's very little tape on him. Um,
Speaker 1: he played I don't know what at twenty snaps or
Speaker 1: something like that against the Broncos. So there is a
Speaker 1: chance that with no tape he comes in and stunts
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. But with Courtland Sutton out, your
Speaker 1: number one receiver, Philip Lindsay is practicing. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's going to play tonight at the time we're
Speaker 1: recording this, it's unknown. Um, you know, mel Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: is a good running back. I'm on my fantasy team.
Speaker 1: But you're down your number one receiver, your number two
Speaker 1: running back, and your offensive line is real shaky. They
Speaker 1: couldn't protect Driscoll at all. Uh last week. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of a great line from The Last Boy Scout
Speaker 1: Super Underrated Damon Wayne's Bruce Willis movie, You Couldn't protect
Speaker 1: a couple of warm piss really classic line in the
Speaker 1: strip club where Hellie Barry was dancing. Yes, I've seen
Speaker 1: The Last Boy Scout seventy five times. Awesome movie. At
Speaker 1: any rate. I've gone off on a tangent here. The
Speaker 1: Jets should be able to get to Brett Rippon, and
Speaker 1: I got them at plus three. It was juiced on Monday.
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, really, Jeff driscoll favorite on
Speaker 1: the Road now was a juiced plus three. Um, so
Speaker 1: that's already in the camp. But for the purpose is
Speaker 1: the best that I can't give out plus three because
Speaker 1: it's not available as I see it now, the Jets
Speaker 1: are plus one. I'm taking them. You might as well
Speaker 1: take him on the money line. Don't let me down, Jets,
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. Just I mean, and they
Speaker 1: actually let me down if you listen to this whole
Speaker 1: rand about the Jets. They let me down if they win,
Speaker 1: because then Gaye gets a stay of execution. So should
Speaker 1: I be rooting for them to lose? It's really difficult.
Speaker 1: My pick is the Jets cover plus one, maybe three
Speaker 1: loss would be awesome. So that's the best bed for tonight. Everybody,
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