Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. He's waiting for Sessler to
Speaker 1: finish his rate. Welcome to another edition at the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansons. I come
Speaker 1: to you from a virtual room that is filled with heroes.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and Chris Westling. What's up boys?
Speaker 1: Hey man, everybody. Chris Wesling, you know how about this?
Speaker 1: West West said, I'm gonna pick one game to come
Speaker 1: on and make a cameo on the Sunday Show today.
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna come on for one game, West,
Speaker 1: how about this? The Cleveland Browns in a playoff game,
Speaker 1: not just appearing in a game, Mark Sessler winning a
Speaker 1: playoff game, not just against any team, but against the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stealers. Are you feeling, Forday that that aged me? Um?
Speaker 1: And yet it also d aged me at the same time.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's possible. And Wes, I really
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on because I know you know, Um,
Speaker 1: we've been through a lot regarding to Cleveland Browns on
Speaker 1: our show and our own conversations. So um, I you know,
Speaker 1: if it is like the game ended four minutes ago
Speaker 1: for me to come on and offer um tangible rational
Speaker 1: thoughts will be a challenge. I will attempt to. I'm
Speaker 1: just beginning to realize what has happened. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: what percentage of our listenership thought of Mark Quinn. It
Speaker 1: was about three minutes left in the first quarter. Brown's
Speaker 1: already had two interceptions of Big Ben. They scored on
Speaker 1: the missnap over Big Ben's head, up twenty one to nothing,
Speaker 1: about to go up twenty eight to nothing, the most
Speaker 1: points ever scored in a postseason game in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: and Chris collins Worre says, I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: single person in Cleveland who feels comfortable right now. And
Speaker 1: it was. It was very impressent by Mr Collinsworth because
Speaker 1: things did get interesting. Uh. And we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: all of that, including all the other games in Super
Speaker 1: wild Card Weekend six in total, three Saturday, three Sunday.
Speaker 1: We're gonna cover them all one by one, and we'll
Speaker 1: go in reverse chronological order, which yes takes us to
Speaker 1: Heinz Field, the site of a massacre and the sham
Speaker 1: coach high over the head of Big Bed, all the
Speaker 1: way back to the tone to the one of the
Speaker 1: props have it in the end zone and they dig
Speaker 1: on the wall and recover it. Alright, touch own, Carl
Speaker 1: John Ship's got it in the end zone. Touchdown. Not
Speaker 1: a bad start. Ship's nothing Brown, not a bad start.
Speaker 1: That great Brown's Radio network with the call the ound,
Speaker 1: scored twenty eight unanswered points in the first quarter. White
Speaker 1: knuckled their way through the inevitable Steelers come back, then
Speaker 1: got big plays and their best players that close out
Speaker 1: a forty five to excuse me, a forty eight to
Speaker 1: thirty seven win over the hated Pittsburgh Steelers, the biggest
Speaker 1: win for this organization since it's reboot. By far Mark,
Speaker 1: You've waited a long time for this moment. How does
Speaker 1: it feel to watch your Browns beat the Steelers in
Speaker 1: fantastic fashion? It feels um, I don't know. It's uh.
Speaker 1: The one thing I'd say about the Cleveland fan base,
Speaker 1: and I really felt this over the course of this week, Um,
Speaker 1: because you knew it was it was win or lose,
Speaker 1: and it was fans interacting with like Ernest spiner In,
Speaker 1: Eric Metcalfe and Bernie Kozar and uh players of old
Speaker 1: and um Butch Davis chiming In and Joe Thomas and
Speaker 1: Andrew Hawkins that so many people, I feel like, over
Speaker 1: the years have wanted to make the Cleveland Browns a
Speaker 1: fun experience have tried. Um. Players have gone there and
Speaker 1: toiled and to no results, no, no playoff results. Um.
Speaker 1: And the fans have been through um utter hell. And there.
Speaker 1: I you know, I certainly I think highly of other
Speaker 1: fan bases that go through the same thing, and they
Speaker 1: showed the same loyalty, and UM, it's settling in for me.
Speaker 1: I'm just one person that roots for this team. But
Speaker 1: I I knew that I never wanted to walk away
Speaker 1: from them, and I didn't know if there would ever
Speaker 1: be a reward, and I don't know as an adult
Speaker 1: that it could ever really would it be the same
Speaker 1: as the seven or eight, seventh or eighth grade version
Speaker 1: of me that lived and died so hard by this team.
Speaker 1: It cracked through a little bit, it did. I can't
Speaker 1: if I love it too. And it's it's not the
Speaker 1: same as maybe when you or seventh and eighth grade.
Speaker 1: But I'm just looking at you right now, I mean,
Speaker 1: Mark is being mean. The dichotomy right now between Mark's
Speaker 1: face at this moment and like its oozing out and
Speaker 1: the look on Mark's face at the end of the
Speaker 1: third quarter when he was conscripted by our jobs at
Speaker 1: Sky Sports to come on. Happened to be me and
Speaker 1: Mark in the rotation. Although they were definitely gonna have
Speaker 1: Mark in the rotation, they weren't gonna miss that opportunity. Uh.
Speaker 1: And at that point it was fourth down for the Steelers.
Speaker 1: They had already um, you know, cut the lead, I
Speaker 1: think to twelve. It's at midfield. Um. And Mark, you know,
Speaker 1: handled it all very professionally. When when our friend Neil
Speaker 1: Reynolds uh goes to him, you know, you know, just
Speaker 1: just trying to put this how are you feeling right now? Mark,
Speaker 1: It's like, please, you know, unpack your pain and anxiety
Speaker 1: for all of us and Mark. Mark kind of white
Speaker 1: knuckled through it. But you know, he took some shots
Speaker 1: at people who were premature celebrating, and he said his
Speaker 1: confidence level was at about one in one hundred and uh.
Speaker 1: And you could feel the anxiety and everything building up
Speaker 1: to that moment. And it's great to look back to
Speaker 1: it because that was a turning point. Right after that
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, you know, christ for Sessler and all the
Speaker 1: Browns fans there they've been some weird Yeah, there's been
Speaker 1: some weird punts this weekend, and that that might have
Speaker 1: been a height of it. And Greg, you you said,
Speaker 1: put it on Nick Chubb, And soon after Nick Chubb scored.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the first moment that I started
Speaker 1: to feel like, um, even my own pessimism and anxiety
Speaker 1: in twenty thirty plus years of fandom, um might not
Speaker 1: be enough to get in the way. And and and
Speaker 1: you know, if anything, the sky Sports crew are total allies,
Speaker 1: and like so I you know I was it wasn't
Speaker 1: I didn't want to expose my total um, the real meat,
Speaker 1: which is like I don't feel positive until like the
Speaker 1: final whistle of these games. Um, not a great time
Speaker 1: to be podcasting myself to the United Kingdom. But uh,
Speaker 1: it was like five in the morning there, so probably
Speaker 1: twelve people saw it anyways, Like, um, it's a totally
Speaker 1: surreal experience. So yeah, we did. We did a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff with sky Sports this weekend. And I I
Speaker 1: was doing the hit with Mark after the first quarter
Speaker 1: when it was twenty eight nothing and I get maybe
Speaker 1: Mark was taking shots at me. At the end of
Speaker 1: the third just I said, I declared it over. I mean,
Speaker 1: twenty eight nothing. If they would ever ever blown that game,
Speaker 1: that would have been maybe the end of the Browns.
Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened. That's certainly the
Speaker 1: end of Mark Sessler. To the point where I was
Speaker 1: texting Greg in a nervous manner, uh like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what we're going to do with the podcast if
Speaker 1: something bad happens here, Because West, I know you're watching
Speaker 1: the game as well, and you you're noticing the same
Speaker 1: thing everybody else is. You know, it's twenty eight nothing,
Speaker 1: and it's seven, and then oh then it's thirty five, seven, sixteen,
Speaker 1: thirty five, twenty two, and all of a sudden, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Did you ever have a doubt? West?
Speaker 1: Or did it always feel like it was in the
Speaker 1: bag for Cleveland? I had doubts? I did, um, just
Speaker 1: because of who the Steelers are, what their DNA is,
Speaker 1: and who the Browns are and what their DNA is
Speaker 1: through the years. It's like the little brother big brother thing.
Speaker 1: And um, I think you tip your cap to Alex
Speaker 1: van Pelt, who is not the regular play caller and
Speaker 1: who kept passing the ball and they kept scoring to
Speaker 1: answer the Steelers scores. Tip your captain Baker Mayfield who
Speaker 1: came through on those passes, and Nick Chubb, who is
Speaker 1: a difference maker. Like you know, I think Greg said
Speaker 1: it well, put it on Nick Chubb because all season long,
Speaker 1: you no matter what you think about Baker or O'Dell
Speaker 1: or Kevin's Tefanski, when you play the Cleveland Browns, you
Speaker 1: have to deal with Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. That
Speaker 1: is a championship pack field. One is a rushing champion,
Speaker 1: is rookie year. The other might be the one or
Speaker 1: two top one or two best running backs in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and you had to deal with him every time you
Speaker 1: play the Browns. Cecler, do you want to hear the
Speaker 1: Jim Donovan Doug Deacon call of the uh Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: forty yard touchdown in the fourth quarter? Yeah? I would
Speaker 1: love to. All right, let's hear that. Mark looks post
Speaker 1: second to got a bridge coming there, tree pass right side,
Speaker 1: Here comes job, he's going, He's going in touchdown. Great job,
Speaker 1: great play call. Right there you go, Mark. I'm happy
Speaker 1: for Jim. Think imagine you know, um, I'm one who
Speaker 1: has occasionally complained about long NFL Sundays, and we've seen
Speaker 1: a few, but I mean Donovan please, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: how often is he featured on our show? Because it's
Speaker 1: he's typically um, you know, broadcasting an l so this
Speaker 1: is quite different for him. And on the and on
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh side of things, was obviously a terrible loss.
Speaker 1: The fact, I mean the fact, just the way it
Speaker 1: started for those of us that we're lucky enough to
Speaker 1: be at the game and everyone else who watched the
Speaker 1: famous Seahawks Broncos Super Bowl where the first snap of
Speaker 1: the game went over Peyton Manning's head for a safety
Speaker 1: and that's set the tone for a blowout victory for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. This was like that, but worse because somehow
Speaker 1: it goes over Big Ben's head. Pounce, he fires it
Speaker 1: over his head and then it gets recovered by the
Speaker 1: Browns for a touchdown and just the avalanche of points.
Speaker 1: But even after Pittsburgh got things stabilized, and bad job
Speaker 1: by everybody on the offensive side. Ben Roethlisberger, despite throwing
Speaker 1: for five yards, had four interceptions in this game, including
Speaker 1: some truly wretched picks when the game was hanging in
Speaker 1: the balance. But you have to put it on the
Speaker 1: defense a little bit too west, I thought, because there
Speaker 1: were times when, yes, they strung together a couple of
Speaker 1: stop stops to get the game close, but when they
Speaker 1: had a chance to really squeeze the Browns in the
Speaker 1: second half and really put the pressure on and give
Speaker 1: the Steelers offensive chance to steal this game, they never
Speaker 1: could do it. And this is supposed to be one
Speaker 1: of the best defenses, if not the best defense in football. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Collinsworth pointed to some miscommunications because of the
Speaker 1: injuries they've had there, but still had t J. Watt,
Speaker 1: still had Cameron Heyward, they still had Stefan to it,
Speaker 1: they still had all these great players on their defense.
Speaker 1: There's no excuse for for kind of laying over time
Speaker 1: and time again when when the offense wants to get
Speaker 1: back in the game and you can't get a stop,
Speaker 1: right I I give so much credit though, to to
Speaker 1: Fan Sky and what you know he's installed. I think
Speaker 1: you only win by adjusting your game playing week to week.
Speaker 1: It's very much a Patriots thing and like like everyone
Speaker 1: does it. But they came out with a totally different
Speaker 1: game plan than they did a week ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: Baker next Sense Stats had some good stuff about how
Speaker 1: he was throwing the ball faster, uh than he did
Speaker 1: the entire season tonight, And so that's partly why Van
Speaker 1: Pelt stayed so aggressive while Mike Tomlin is punting on
Speaker 1: a fourth and one. If that's anyone else, I mean
Speaker 1: he he was the first coach to punt the ball
Speaker 1: in that scenario, which is over the forty yard line
Speaker 1: um and down by at least ten points on a
Speaker 1: fourth and one in a decade, and the last person
Speaker 1: to do it was playing a meaningless Week seven team
Speaker 1: game before that, it was fifteen years. That was it
Speaker 1: was crazy. Whereas Van Pelt took that punt and he's
Speaker 1: calling passes while a lot of people on Twitter and
Speaker 1: sky Spire was Neil's question to me also in that
Speaker 1: in that break was like why aren't they just you know,
Speaker 1: pounding running the ball because they know who they are.
Speaker 1: They're the Cleveland Browns. They're an offensive team. And you
Speaker 1: know what was working tonight is those short passes. And
Speaker 1: they did that. They're adjusting week to week. They changed
Speaker 1: their game plans, and they do it based on their opponent,
Speaker 1: and they're smart and they went for and you mentioned
Speaker 1: like people got to deal with with Chubb and Hunt West.
Speaker 1: I throw Jarvis Landry in that mix, man. I mean
Speaker 1: every night, every game, when there's a big play to
Speaker 1: be made, whether it was the touchdown early to set
Speaker 1: the tone or the third and five where Baker absolutely
Speaker 1: needed someone and and things are falling part, Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: makes the play. That guy's at dog. Week after week,
Speaker 1: the Steelers are the first team since two thousand fifteen
Speaker 1: to punt when Dan at least eight from inside their
Speaker 1: opponent's forty yard line. There were eleven suns too. That
Speaker 1: wasn't not even the one I was mentioning. There were
Speaker 1: eleven such punts in the last twenty seasons prior to
Speaker 1: Sunday Night, and none happened in the first half. So,
Speaker 1: like you know what I I said that you get
Speaker 1: on Big Ben for four picks and Market's pouncy for
Speaker 1: five that ball over his head, and the running game
Speaker 1: for being stuck in mud as usual. Uh, and the
Speaker 1: defense we're not getting to stop on accounts. But hey,
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin too. It was just a wretched night for
Speaker 1: the Steelers, dark knight for that organization that now has
Speaker 1: to figure out where they are going forward. We have
Speaker 1: plenty of time to talk about where the Steelers move
Speaker 1: on from here. Where we What we do know, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: is that the Browns move on to face the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs at Arrowhead. And listen, I'm not I will
Speaker 1: not play this card, but it's worth saying. This feels
Speaker 1: like a house money game for the Cleveland Browns. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a huge success this season. Uh You're now
Speaker 1: twelve and five with a playoff win over the hated
Speaker 1: Steelers and you're going into Kansas City. You get killed. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you got beat by Patrick Willhomes. You win, you blow
Speaker 1: the roof off the place. Uh. So it feels like
Speaker 1: a good spot for the Browns to show up loose
Speaker 1: and ready to play. Well. I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: I think that this the Brown Steelers thing. And in
Speaker 1: West you mentioned it. It's a big brother, little brother.
Speaker 1: It's trying to play your dad in the driveway and
Speaker 1: you know the basketball hoop, that kind of thing. And
Speaker 1: at some point in life, um, you you find a
Speaker 1: way to to to squeak out of victory. Um. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are a whole different matter. And I I watched
Speaker 1: this entire game standing up. I think I sat for
Speaker 1: maybe two seconds the entire game. That game, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say it's I'm with you, Dan where it's
Speaker 1: just like, I'll appreciate that they've got to that point,
Speaker 1: and well that's a great test. But the last thing
Speaker 1: I will say is that I hope each of us
Speaker 1: um find happiness, rude for or being agnostic UM and
Speaker 1: enjoying football and whatever way we do in each other's presence.
Speaker 1: I didn't think this would happen un till I was
Speaker 1: seventy two. I always thought it would happen when I
Speaker 1: was like near the end and i'd be texting you
Speaker 1: guys from like an island in the Caribbean or something.
Speaker 1: That it's happening while we're still doing the show means
Speaker 1: something to me. It does mean something that we were
Speaker 1: on sky during all this, because they've been our allies,
Speaker 1: and so I feel thankful, um, And I'm not. I
Speaker 1: know that I don't like uh raw Rod jump around
Speaker 1: in a jersey and all this stuff, but I inside
Speaker 1: I do feel it quite a bit. The men still
Speaker 1: wearing a sports code right now. He is a perfect
Speaker 1: I was going to change my clothes at all. I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna change you know what, you might have sent
Speaker 1: Big Ben into retirement. Either way, you sent him into
Speaker 1: infamy those interceptions. How about and before before I turn
Speaker 1: it over to west for the final word, I want
Speaker 1: to give uh this quote which will be etched into
Speaker 1: stone of this rivalry. Juju Smith Schuster. I think they're
Speaker 1: still the same Brown's team my play every year. I
Speaker 1: think they're nameless gray faces. They have a couple of
Speaker 1: good players on their team, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I don't know the Browns is the Browns
Speaker 1: not anymore? Juju Wes, thank you for coming on. Any
Speaker 1: final thoughts before you sign off and hit the Hey, Uh,
Speaker 1: I had my pain pumping planted, hopefully rounding a curve here,
Speaker 1: Hopefully be able to be on the on the show
Speaker 1: a little bit more frequently in the coming weeks. Um.
Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone who's reached out. Appreciate all the all
Speaker 1: the fond uh sentiments in the past few weeks. Very
Speaker 1: nice looking, good West sounding good. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: We love you, buddy, Love you guys too. There we
Speaker 1: goes Chris Westling, the King of West Cincinnati. Let's we're
Speaker 1: just getting started here, the Browns advance. Let's see who
Speaker 1: else gets to move on to the NFL's version of
Speaker 1: the Elite eight. Next stop, Super Dome, cann Gold from
Speaker 1: the sixt Murray the tail back, Beyonce Harris motioning open
Speaker 1: the left side, now back to the right breeze, fakes it,
Speaker 1: looking for someone to throw two under pressure, He tumps
Speaker 1: it underneath. They'll tell you it's Murray at the five
Speaker 1: across the gold line touchdown. We'll tell me it's Murray.
Speaker 1: Zach Strief and Deuce McAllister w w L. It wasn't
Speaker 1: the cake walk we all expected, but the Saints took
Speaker 1: care of business on Sunday at the super Dome, getting
Speaker 1: two touchdown throws from Drew Brees and another rock solid
Speaker 1: performance from their defense. Nine win over the Bears. New
Speaker 1: Orleans advanced to the Divisional playoffs for the third time
Speaker 1: in four years, where they'll meet Tom Brady and the
Speaker 1: Bucks and the most hotly anticipated showdown between two forties
Speaker 1: something quarterbacks in the history of our league. Greg They say,
Speaker 1: it's what they had to do here, and greater challenge
Speaker 1: is a weak right. This felt like the most knock
Speaker 1: it out playoff game I can remember. I think this's
Speaker 1: gonna happen sometimes now with the seventh seed, and don't
Speaker 1: say that they need they gotta lose. I know it's
Speaker 1: big money for the NFL to add playoff games every
Speaker 1: once in a while. If that's what this is gonna be,
Speaker 1: where we lose the second seed, the bye on week
Speaker 1: seventeen and the drama and then we get dogs like
Speaker 1: this every year. Well here's here's the flip side. Um,
Speaker 1: the best game of the weekend, I would say was
Speaker 1: Bill's Colts. So that was the other two seven and
Speaker 1: that that helped uh in eleven win team get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs with Philip Rivers. Uh, you know, like so
Speaker 1: so you never know how it's gonna go. Now that's said,
Speaker 1: I think we have these playoff games anyways in a
Speaker 1: normal year, it does feel like a come down. After
Speaker 1: this nice moment we all just shared, west Is on
Speaker 1: the show. We're celebrating the first Brown's victory in the
Speaker 1: playoffs since we got to talk about, you know, the
Speaker 1: Saints winning a game where they had five point one
Speaker 1: yards per play against the Bears. It was it was
Speaker 1: a little much. Uh. It proved what we've said all
Speaker 1: year about the Saints that they can win different kinds
Speaker 1: of ways. And I personally believe player for player, it's
Speaker 1: the best team around Drew Brees that they've had. I mean,
Speaker 1: they'll there'll be some others that are close, but it's
Speaker 1: a really good defense, it's a it's a good offensive line,
Speaker 1: it's a good running game. Now Michael Thomas is back,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees may or may not hold them back. I
Speaker 1: think that that's gonna play out over the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. We'll see. I think they have to be
Speaker 1: thrilled just that they moved past this and that they
Speaker 1: get an opponent that they're very comfortable with UH in
Speaker 1: Tampa in New Orleans next week. So I don't take
Speaker 1: too much from this game. It's almost like it's almost
Speaker 1: like when the teams were playing the Jets. I know
Speaker 1: it's a playoff team, but it's like they did what
Speaker 1: they needed to do when they moved on. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: and they ran into a Bears team. That unnecessary to
Speaker 1: bring up the Jets in any context there, but go on,
Speaker 1: Telta little felt a little in this. I just meant
Speaker 1: we kept saying that during the year, like what did
Speaker 1: I learned team? This week? My point was, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I learned about the Saints this week then,
Speaker 1: so all, yeah, I think that's fair. It's like they
Speaker 1: just had a sort of white knuckles through this thing,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and they did and you were
Speaker 1: the Bears. To me, um, you know, bigger picture, I
Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad this game happened because for the Bears,
Speaker 1: because you don't come out of the season with um
Speaker 1: hopefully like delusions of grandeur about who your coaches, your
Speaker 1: general manager, your quarterback, your offense, your scheme. Bears gave
Speaker 1: them a tough fight early on, they really did, but
Speaker 1: they're also sloppy. There were unnecessary penalties. Uh. To me,
Speaker 1: it was a meltdown moment to have Anthony Miller um
Speaker 1: get disqualified um for falling for c. J. Gardener Johnson's antics,
Speaker 1: which every everyone knows that c J. Gardner Johnson, Um,
Speaker 1: that's what he does. And I mean he's gotten three guys,
Speaker 1: he's gotten three guys, he's gotten two guys kicked out
Speaker 1: of the games, and he's got Michael Thomas suspended. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's ever had a run like well,
Speaker 1: and who was who was the player? Um that a
Speaker 1: dropped the uh trick play bomb that would have completely
Speaker 1: changed the complexion of the game. Javon Wims right, and
Speaker 1: he's the same player that threw a punch at Gardner
Speaker 1: Johnson earlier in the year, one of the most unnecessary Um.
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson was wearing a helmet. No less sure. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: just so, it's like the Bears to me, Um, are
Speaker 1: they a team that you could say, wow, they If anything,
Speaker 1: they they're a team built up composure. No, it's the opposite.
Speaker 1: And on top of it, like the offense, you know,
Speaker 1: played a real defense today and that Greg, You're right
Speaker 1: that the defense surrounding Drew Brees right now is completely
Speaker 1: different than in years past. And and so you know
Speaker 1: they match up well with the Bucks and this game
Speaker 1: fades into the distance, as does the the opponent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought the mirage of the Bears quote unquote surge
Speaker 1: was exposed last week in Green Bay, um or in
Speaker 1: Chicago was when the Packers put it on Mitch Robinsky
Speaker 1: and you you saw, you know, how the Bears looked
Speaker 1: when they weren't playing the worst defenses in football. So
Speaker 1: this was just kind of an extension of that. And
Speaker 1: from just the pure game standpoint a cause I agree
Speaker 1: I think it helps them perhaps in the long term,
Speaker 1: because you know, after these last two weeks, there are
Speaker 1: no questions about Trabinsky. You know, maybe we should keep
Speaker 1: him around. It's like, no, you should start fresh. You
Speaker 1: didn't pick up his option, and now he didn't show
Speaker 1: you enough to change your mind on that. Um, Matt, Naggy,
Speaker 1: that's a decision that needs to be made. Um. You
Speaker 1: could you could argue, I know Naggi is not a
Speaker 1: very popular figure on this show, but you could argue,
Speaker 1: um that you know, the fact that they were down
Speaker 1: four points late in the third quarter in this game
Speaker 1: showed uh something you know in Naggie and his ability
Speaker 1: to keep this team competitive. But there's there's such a
Speaker 1: razor thin margin of error in this type of matchup.
Speaker 1: So when Javon Wims drops that pass and Tripisky didn't
Speaker 1: do much of the whole day, but that was a
Speaker 1: dime to a wide open receiver and it's one of
Speaker 1: the worst drops you'll ever see. The die was cast
Speaker 1: on the game at that point. It's like, Okay, the
Speaker 1: Bears aren't here to do something special, and New Orleans
Speaker 1: kind of played their partner. They're like, all right, we
Speaker 1: know there's nothing really dramatic or fun going on here.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna grind this thing out, and that's what
Speaker 1: they did. I we will have a chance to talk
Speaker 1: about them in the preview show and on Tuesday, But
Speaker 1: it's a concern. Their first six drives, they had seven
Speaker 1: points in a turnover, and they weren't playing the Bears
Speaker 1: from the first half of the season. They were playing
Speaker 1: a Bears team missing there what I think was probably
Speaker 1: their best player this year, real Kuwan Smith. I think
Speaker 1: he had a better year even than Kleo Mack. They
Speaker 1: were missing Buster Screen and Jalen Johnson, two starters, and
Speaker 1: so that's a concern. Mooney who was an important part
Speaker 1: of their own right Mooney on offenses, So I think
Speaker 1: that's a concern for the Saints offense. But like he's
Speaker 1: working hard for yards. Breeze through thirty nine passes for
Speaker 1: two sixty five um reminds me of a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago where you threw about fifty to get to
Speaker 1: three hundred. You know, eight they're working, they're working hard
Speaker 1: for yard. It's a different type of team, but they
Speaker 1: also their coaches are so good. Like when they came
Speaker 1: out a halftime, they did totally adjust and then they
Speaker 1: got the touchdown touchdown to win the game. You know,
Speaker 1: going away, this should have been twenty eight to three,
Speaker 1: Like if they didn't take you know, overturned breezes touchdown
Speaker 1: right at the goal line, and then Mitch puts up
Speaker 1: a garbage time one at the buzzer, it was three.
Speaker 1: So the score for he even feels a little misslea.
Speaker 1: There was also crazy. There was also a crazy punt
Speaker 1: in this game. I mean the Bears are punting down
Speaker 1: three scores with like seven minutes to go in the game.
Speaker 1: It's like, I guess I'm asking with some of these scenarios.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you're Matt Neggi and that's sort of
Speaker 1: been your like you he's been critiqued for that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff before. What are you doing? What are you
Speaker 1: suggesting to your own team when you're punting the same thing.
Speaker 1: But it's the same thing we say about Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 1: We don't give him heat for it. It's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not talking specifically game management decision. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Sean McVeigh doesn't trust Jared Goff and he coaches
Speaker 1: that way. That's exactly I think the way Naggie feels
Speaker 1: about Trabinsky and it affects his decision making in terms
Speaker 1: of being aggressive because he simply doesn't trust his quarterback
Speaker 1: to to help him out. I just don't like these
Speaker 1: teams that have to just trust their defense. It's like
Speaker 1: it's all in our defense. Because the Bears defense honestly
Speaker 1: played a really good game and they still they still
Speaker 1: in the end, it wasn't nearly enough. I think this
Speaker 1: is not how many teams, I mean, again, not to
Speaker 1: give Naggie too much credit, but how many teams down
Speaker 1: three scores with three minutes to play have a fourth,
Speaker 1: uh fourth and goal stop. You know, they kept the
Speaker 1: Saints that they played hard that whole game. They just
Speaker 1: get help and I think Pagan and they play hard
Speaker 1: for Pegana, who was all pumped up in this game.
Speaker 1: I think that's the other takeaway, Greg, what you hit
Speaker 1: on that much was made of Drew Brees, Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara finally all on the field together. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: you know, it's become clear now at this stage of
Speaker 1: the game with Breeze, who's almost certainly in his final
Speaker 1: games of his career, that the this attack is just not.
Speaker 1: It doesn't pack the punch at once did, So you're
Speaker 1: just not gonna get the thirty to forty point explosions
Speaker 1: of yesterdayear most weeks. And it's gonna be a defense.
Speaker 1: Even the Saints are going to be a team there,
Speaker 1: I think relies more in their defense than the offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Thomas looked good though, so I think that matters. They
Speaker 1: just and they haven't played many games together, to be
Speaker 1: fair to them, so you know, as they work through this,
Speaker 1: you know, in their mind, hopefully they get better each week.
Speaker 1: When when the Bears just decided to run the ball
Speaker 1: before halftime instead of trying to score in a seven
Speaker 1: to three lead, to just kill the clock, that that
Speaker 1: to me was like the ultimate game over and I
Speaker 1: don't trust my quarterback. We should mention um. Then the
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon broadcast. I think that's the only thing that saved
Speaker 1: this game, at least in terms of June. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is, but I like it. I don't
Speaker 1: know either. I didn't I was I watched it alone
Speaker 1: because my wife and kids left the house, so I
Speaker 1: had no reason to put on the children's program. But
Speaker 1: Twitter was all I only did a little but Walker
Speaker 1: loved it. My son, he they were watching in the room.
Speaker 1: I was back in the bedroom, but you know, I
Speaker 1: went and checked it out and and they were they
Speaker 1: were the time the SpongeBob and they were like learning
Speaker 1: things like it was good. We watched about an hour
Speaker 1: of the game that way. And UM there were clear advantage,
Speaker 1: like clear wonderful things for you like young viewers learning
Speaker 1: UM football. And they threw a lot of little animation
Speaker 1: in and they in their first down UM stripe was
Speaker 1: very defined in a way that kids would would love. UM.
Speaker 1: There was also in the game though you know you've
Speaker 1: got a player punching someone. Um, there was a there
Speaker 1: was a very audible f bomb dropped on Nickelodeon, which
Speaker 1: I don't think they were planning for. So you know,
Speaker 1: I give Nate Burlison and friends a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for um, you know, getting them out of some tough corners.
Speaker 1: To burl Liston is just clearly good at this too.
Speaker 1: I mean, you put them in any format he seems
Speaker 1: to succeed and explain the game for it. Don't put
Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick in the booth for Nickelodeon. By the way,
Speaker 1: that was SpongeBob. It just came out so loud. I
Speaker 1: couldn't really like, I know what SpongeBob sounds like, but
Speaker 1: I didn't. Con Lewis Riddick dropping the brown word out
Speaker 1: of nowhere in the middle of a telecast today was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite. You know, it was an interesting
Speaker 1: day from a broadcasting perspective. You had Riddick um saying
Speaker 1: this is electric. You had the Nickelodeon broadcast and everything
Speaker 1: that was going on with that port He had port
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, Uh, you know, in a closet somewhere and
Speaker 1: parts unknown looking pale and struggling not to talk over
Speaker 1: Jim Nance who's from at the Superdome? Uh? In the
Speaker 1: latest COVID nineteen madness. Uh. It was just, you know,
Speaker 1: these little details of a very long weekend of football.
Speaker 1: We felt their pain. That the talking over each other
Speaker 1: when you have a delay and you're in different places
Speaker 1: on TV. It's like if if it happens to Dunny Ramo,
Speaker 1: I don't feel as bad. That's true, all right. Let
Speaker 1: us keep moving to the first game of Sunday. On
Speaker 1: third and nine, Jackson of the Row steps up pocket
Speaker 1: to lapsing. He escaped piece of the forty yard line
Speaker 1: thirty five thirty, Lamar Jackson to the twenty leg race
Speaker 1: ten five and he's pushed out abound at the one
Speaker 1: yard line. No signal is touchdown Lamar Jackson on third
Speaker 1: and nine he takes into the house and the Ravens
Speaker 1: an extra point away from tying it up. Jerry Sandusky
Speaker 1: with the call w B A L. The Hey was
Speaker 1: not in the barn at that point, but that was
Speaker 1: the turning point. Lamar Jackson shot through a muddy pocket,
Speaker 1: entered open space, then used that four three speed to
Speaker 1: outrun half of the Titans defense on a forty eight
Speaker 1: yards score. It was the big turning point a win
Speaker 1: over the Titans at Nissan Stadium. It's the first playoff
Speaker 1: win of Jackson's career, so he gets that monkey off
Speaker 1: his back and it sets up the Ravens for a
Speaker 1: Division round class with the Bills next week in an
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. UM. I believe Jackson deserved a lot of
Speaker 1: praise for his play in this game. UM, But when
Speaker 1: I was watching this game, what I couldn't get over
Speaker 1: was what Don Wink Martindale and the Ravens defense did. Um.
Speaker 1: They've been playing better all season. I mean the back
Speaker 1: half of the season, they were there, they were cresting
Speaker 1: along with the offense. It was the whole team was
Speaker 1: improving vastly as things played out down the stretch. But
Speaker 1: you wondered, what would happen, uh when you played a
Speaker 1: big time offense, and what was a bigger offense this
Speaker 1: season than the Titans to completely shut down the Titans
Speaker 1: offense as they did, holding Derrick Henry to forty yards
Speaker 1: on eighteen carries, Uh, to harass Ryan Tannehill to the
Speaker 1: point where he just was not himself and was never
Speaker 1: able to get clicking with A. J. Brown, And of
Speaker 1: course the Marcus Peter with that Peters with a huge
Speaker 1: interception that essentially sealed the game. That was such a
Speaker 1: unforeseen development to me. Is I thought this game had
Speaker 1: shootout written all over it. But the Ravens, again, that
Speaker 1: organization has run so well that they always find a way,
Speaker 1: even when you think that they won't, they always do.
Speaker 1: And their injuries on defense throughout this year kind of
Speaker 1: we're overlooked compared to the offense. But they had problems
Speaker 1: there too, and they had COVID issues too, and you're
Speaker 1: right there. They they always find a way to improve.
Speaker 1: That was the lowest yardage in any Titans game since
Speaker 1: the game that Marcus Mariota was benched for Ryan Tannell,
Speaker 1: which to me is like that's the inflection point of
Speaker 1: this organization. So for for Baltimore to dominate it like
Speaker 1: that defensively, they're they're really hard to prepare for. But
Speaker 1: it's also partly you know, you give Lamar Jackson in
Speaker 1: the offense credit because they're part of it. Is they
Speaker 1: only had nine drives. It's like there wasn't much time
Speaker 1: the Ravens. It wasn't their peak offensive performance, but they
Speaker 1: once they got it going after the first quarter, ultimately
Speaker 1: they went on these five minute drives, whether finished in
Speaker 1: a touchdown or a field goal. It's shortened the game.
Speaker 1: And I love the end of the game. I always
Speaker 1: love this more than anything. The Browns are great at this,
Speaker 1: but it says so much when the other teams like
Speaker 1: knows you're gonna run at the end, and you and
Speaker 1: you do run and and that's how you finished the game.
Speaker 1: When they know it's coming. Man, I just it feels
Speaker 1: like as a fan, there must be nothing more satisfying
Speaker 1: because when the when the Ravens got the ball back
Speaker 1: after that interception which by Tannehill, which everyone's gonna remember.
Speaker 1: It is kind of like, oh, that ended the game.
Speaker 1: There was like two thirty left in in some time outs,
Speaker 1: like there was no rule that the Ravens couldn't go
Speaker 1: three and out right there, but they basically just ran
Speaker 1: it down their throats and the game was over and
Speaker 1: that was that was a Ravens type of statement when well,
Speaker 1: and I would I would point to how, you know
Speaker 1: the first quarter went, how this game opened that you know,
Speaker 1: a J. Brown and Tannehill run fire, And I didn't
Speaker 1: know if if if Baltimore had an answer for a J.
Speaker 1: Brown early on, and you know he's a little streaky,
Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be super electric. And then um, you know,
Speaker 1: Tip get like an ankle injury and vanished for a quarter.
Speaker 1: It seems like I feel like that's eight games in
Speaker 1: a row that seems to happen to him. But he
Speaker 1: you know, Baltimore fell into the same corner they did
Speaker 1: a year ago. And I think the playoffs are just
Speaker 1: a little bit different where it's not Week eight um
Speaker 1: buried on some you know B team network of feed
Speaker 1: where where everyone's watching and it's like the same questions
Speaker 1: are being asked about Lamar Jackson. And I thought that
Speaker 1: the Titans did a really good job early on a
Speaker 1: bottling up Lamar Jackson, forcing him to run um horizontally.
Speaker 1: And but when his runs started to become vertical and
Speaker 1: we saw that incredible touchdown run and um, but that
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one. There were a bunch of um.
Speaker 1: He just he gashed them over and over that you
Speaker 1: could feel the tight that the Ravens working their way
Speaker 1: out of that tend nothing hole, working their way out
Speaker 1: of what happened last year and simply seizing power. And
Speaker 1: I think they've they were they came an inch away
Speaker 1: from being broken, and then I think they broke the Titans.
Speaker 1: And everything that you'd want out of a Titan's win
Speaker 1: in which would be get up early, have Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: start to take over. Because even in the last year's
Speaker 1: game against the Ravens, it was Derrick Henry late in
Speaker 1: the game in the fourth quarter where he went nuts. Um,
Speaker 1: he never it never happened to day he had like
Speaker 1: forty yards around two point one yards per carry or
Speaker 1: something like that. And um, they did their job, And
Speaker 1: so I'm so with you Dan that like in this
Speaker 1: coaching carousel that seems to, you know, discard people from
Speaker 1: a year ago. Greg Roman had a great second half coaching,
Speaker 1: Wink Barton Dale had an incredible four quarters in general
Speaker 1: outside of the first couple of drives. So these Ravens
Speaker 1: assistants are as great of a candidate as you could find.
Speaker 1: You know, Arthur Smith is every day he's like loading
Speaker 1: up on interviews. Everybody wants to talk to Arthur Smith.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, Martindale out coached him in this game. And
Speaker 1: it I think the reason why because it was tend
Speaker 1: nothing at the end of the first quarter and Lamar
Speaker 1: had thrown a truly hideous interception, the ugliest interception we've
Speaker 1: seen in the playoffs so far, I would say, Uh,
Speaker 1: And it all seemed like it was playing out all
Speaker 1: over again, the nightmare for the Ravens. But the differences
Speaker 1: is like the whole team came to play. So when
Speaker 1: Lamar slumped early with a throw and wasn't making plays
Speaker 1: with his legs, the defense kept things under control. And
Speaker 1: then when Lamar found his footing and again it was
Speaker 1: third and long at midfield. Uh, They're down ten three
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half and that forty
Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown run changed everything. And after the game,
Speaker 1: here's what John Harbaugh had to say about that room.
Speaker 1: It's one of the best runds I've ever seen, But
Speaker 1: it's the best run I've ever seen by a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's even greater than the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: run you had a year or two ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just a phenomenal play. What effect it had, I
Speaker 1: think it it had a big effect, aren't It just
Speaker 1: got us back in the game we needed, we needed
Speaker 1: points at that point. We got us back in the game. Psychological,
Speaker 1: I really don't know, but it made me feel a
Speaker 1: lot better and tell you that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was the best run ever by a quarterback, but
Speaker 1: I get why he said that because it almost in
Speaker 1: addition to tying the game and and putting Baltimore back
Speaker 1: on its feet. Uh it, it seemed to almost exercise
Speaker 1: some of those Lamar demons at that point. So he
Speaker 1: had this impact special play that just changed the game.
Speaker 1: And then just purely from like the uh, pure athleticism
Speaker 1: of it. That's what makes him so much difference. So
Speaker 1: anybody quarterback Tyler Heineke, for instance, not to take anything
Speaker 1: away from him. We'll get to him a little bit.
Speaker 1: He could escape from a muddy pocket and get into
Speaker 1: the second level of defense. But Lamar's ability to then
Speaker 1: hit the turbo button and just run away from five
Speaker 1: different defenders who all have an angle on him is
Speaker 1: something that we've never seen. And I guess that's why
Speaker 1: Patrick claybonds in love, right. I mean, Kenny Karo, the
Speaker 1: Titan safety, like Jackson hadn't even passed him yet, and
Speaker 1: he just started jogging after him. It was one of
Speaker 1: the funniest replays. Like he didn't even he it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, they should make fun of him for that,
Speaker 1: but he was just like, okay, I'm I'm along for
Speaker 1: the show. You almost take it for granted. I mean,
Speaker 1: he ran for one thirty six, you know they they
Speaker 1: ran for two thirty six. He was one thirty six
Speaker 1: of that, and he started getting the outside in the
Speaker 1: second half. But but it throws to the outside were
Speaker 1: really big today. You know, that's he busted some narratives,
Speaker 1: not that these should really exist exactly. We know, you
Speaker 1: know he has strengths and weaknesses, but you know, they
Speaker 1: hadn't come back from down ten with him Okay, you
Speaker 1: did that. You know, you don't throw it to the
Speaker 1: outside today. That was where they really did throw it
Speaker 1: well to the outside. Oh Hollywood, Brown's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't show up in the big moments. Well, he
Speaker 1: went seven for one o nine on a lot of
Speaker 1: throws to the outside. So it was like a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of good narrative bustings for Lamar to
Speaker 1: just move past. And I love seeing guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love Lamar too, just because no one's no one's ever,
Speaker 1: There's never been anyone quite like when John Harbaugh says
Speaker 1: that it might be like the you know, it's got
Speaker 1: to be one of the most important runs quarterbacks ever had,
Speaker 1: because it's not like it's not like there's any other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks running for fifty yards in a playoff you know,
Speaker 1: in a key moment in a playoff game. Just that
Speaker 1: hasn't happened before. We haven't seen that. And it's a
Speaker 1: bitter way for the Titans to go out because all
Speaker 1: season their offense was special and and you worried, oh man,
Speaker 1: this defense is gonna get him killed in a big spot,
Speaker 1: and for them to lose in the game is we're
Speaker 1: singing the praises of Lamar, but still twenty points. The
Speaker 1: Ravens scored in this game. Like the Tennessee defense as
Speaker 1: bad as it's been all the year. That's that was
Speaker 1: a good performance from them, and they and they got
Speaker 1: they sacked him like they got. Everyone said they can't
Speaker 1: watch the past, and so, I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: thing that just it flipped like sixteen seventeen minutes into
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, it was all Titans early. That's
Speaker 1: frustrating for the Titans because you would think if you
Speaker 1: would have told the Titans fans, oh, your your defense
Speaker 1: is actually gonna hold Lamar Jackson to twenty points, You're
Speaker 1: you're planning in the division around playoffs. So the fact
Speaker 1: that it didn't work out that way, that was a
Speaker 1: big surprise. Yeah, I mean they didn't in some key spot.
Speaker 1: You know, they get to touch on late in the
Speaker 1: second quarter and then they come out after after him.
Speaker 1: You're right, Roman, I think brought out you know that
Speaker 1: they did a good job on the telecast talking about
Speaker 1: some concepts. You know, they saved it for the second half.
Speaker 1: I do wonder if the fanski did that too, Like
Speaker 1: more teams are doing that where they're scripting the start
Speaker 1: of the second half, before the game's even start, like
Speaker 1: let's let's save using you know, Patrick Ricard as our
Speaker 1: our main option suddenly for the second half. But you got,
Speaker 1: I mean very able, drove me crazy here the punt
Speaker 1: that that vary able hadn't get me started on fourth
Speaker 1: and two. It's not just that like, of course the
Speaker 1: number you know, and the analytics say, of course you
Speaker 1: go for a fourth and two year year. I think
Speaker 1: right right, right about forty down that you're an offensive team,
Speaker 1: like your right, you've been an offensive team all year,
Speaker 1: and they showed very little faith in Derrick Henry all day.
Speaker 1: That was not the only time that they couldn't convert
Speaker 1: short yardage. There was about three other drives that ended
Speaker 1: on them getting stuffed on not getting stuff, like getting
Speaker 1: stuffed one a second and three and then throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: They didn't give the ball to Henry in those situations.
Speaker 1: It was wild. Not not a great performance by Artie
Speaker 1: Smith there, or really anyone on the Titans connected to
Speaker 1: the type his office offense. Tough loss um all right,
Speaker 1: good stuff. That was Sunday. Now we move two. Been
Speaker 1: along couple of days, marks like get me to that
Speaker 1: beer Saturday Night, Give me some Gene. Decker Off, Dropping deep,
Speaker 1: Brady throws the ball on the white side. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be hoping at Tonio Brown. Preach one touch stop, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Bucketeers. Brady five, Tonio Brown again, Ricky, I gotta
Speaker 1: hear what what is? What was going? Dropping deep? Brady
Speaker 1: throws the ball on the white side. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Tonio Brown preach one touch stop, Tampa Bay Bucket.
Speaker 1: It's Antonio Brown. Remember that from the television broadcast, was
Speaker 1: going absolutely nuts and there's no crowd noise to drown
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown out. It kind of sounds like Cessler in
Speaker 1: that old back shed that he had in his previous resident.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. That has gonna sounded like an animal being tortured.
Speaker 1: Jean Becker off w f US with a call. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady played his forty second playoff game on Saturday night,
Speaker 1: and as first without Bill Belichick on the sideline. The
Speaker 1: performance visage. Brady yards two touchdowns in a win over
Speaker 1: the Washington's football team. Mark Tyler Heineke made this game
Speaker 1: more interesting than it had any right to be, but
Speaker 1: the Bucks move on to face the Saints next week
Speaker 1: at the Superhowl. They took care of business. Um. This
Speaker 1: game was one where you know, we went you know,
Speaker 1: we were on Skyle weekend and I went on and
Speaker 1: called Tyler Heineke. Um just sort of a the kind
Speaker 1: of a quarterback patch that would be attached to like
Speaker 1: a Thursday night, meaningless Thursday night game, UM with very
Speaker 1: few eyeballs in it. And then he proceeds to electrify
Speaker 1: Um Tampa's defense. And I don't know, to the point
Speaker 1: where you've got people wondering if he might be Um
Speaker 1: the quarter back of the future for them or at
Speaker 1: least like well, I would just say, at least pulls
Speaker 1: them like a cult McCoy type move where he will
Speaker 1: be in the league for ten years because there's something
Speaker 1: about us. You're the guy. I I thought about that
Speaker 1: when I don't remember who called this game, but someone said, well,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, Tyler Heineke just got a job for
Speaker 1: the next decade. It's like that's Marks corner. He's the
Speaker 1: guy that declares which backup work for the next I
Speaker 1: think it's fair though, because I don't think it takes
Speaker 1: too much to get into that circle. And you know,
Speaker 1: he's sort of a coach's dream and and and they
Speaker 1: gave the Bucks a fight. But I think kind of
Speaker 1: lost in the Heineke um verve was that Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was lights out and you know, and this at this point,
Speaker 1: this is tired at this point. But um, how different
Speaker 1: of a world we live in with athletes because they
Speaker 1: show that, um side by side comparison of Tom Brady
Speaker 1: with George Blanda and and Tom Brady has been um
Speaker 1: getting microderm abration and uh, you know, is well hydrated,
Speaker 1: and George Blanda smoked cigarettes and drank like know, low
Speaker 1: grade forty ounces. So that shows you what happens to
Speaker 1: our body depending on how we treat it. And Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is thriving and looking to me as good as
Speaker 1: he has. I mean, the Bucks are a little streaky,
Speaker 1: but they're real dangerous. And I'm not I know everyone
Speaker 1: like the Saints have knocked him out twice some I
Speaker 1: have no idea what will happen next. Yet the game
Speaker 1: went so counter to two expectations. I mean, because the
Speaker 1: Bucks offense did whatever they wanted to. They could have
Speaker 1: had more than thirty one in this game. And Washington
Speaker 1: offense you kind of put it to Todd Bowl. So
Speaker 1: I think got too cute, too aggressive to Boomer bust defense.
Speaker 1: They had some bad luck like the Washington offense, or
Speaker 1: they could have scored even more too. There was that
Speaker 1: tipped interception that you know, they had some opportunities. I
Speaker 1: think they moved the ball well, like they weren't ready
Speaker 1: for Heinuki. It was really an offensive game, but man,
Speaker 1: breeze some of those early throws, like there was a
Speaker 1: third in tent of Miller to keep a drive alive.
Speaker 1: It's just like a bullet and a diet. I know,
Speaker 1: Like there's other old quarterbacks playing well, but none of
Speaker 1: them look like Brady. I mean, Brades doesn't look like Brady.
Speaker 1: Ben doesn't look like Brady Rivers playing well, he didn't
Speaker 1: look like Brady. I mean, if you protect him, and
Speaker 1: he's got a really good offensive line. Who really for
Speaker 1: the most part shut down Washington. He's spinning it, you know,
Speaker 1: as well as anyone really. He sends the latest guy
Speaker 1: that to talk talk talk, Uh. And you know, I
Speaker 1: guess some of these these pass rushers coming into the
Speaker 1: combine for their interviews of Colleen and and others. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's become almost part of the game. Who do you
Speaker 1: want to sack the most, and then that person inevitably
Speaker 1: says Tom Brady because he's the most famous quarterback, and
Speaker 1: then that gets play played up when the two sides
Speaker 1: eventually meet um, only in this case, Chase Young kind
Speaker 1: of doubled down on it and had fun with it.
Speaker 1: But then you gotta you gotta do something about it. Chase,
Speaker 1: you can't do not much at all, and then lint
Speaker 1: to the sideline with the sprained ankle. I think that
Speaker 1: has been UM. I think Brady is so savvy and
Speaker 1: how he handled everything UM. When he didn't he saw
Speaker 1: that the Patriots weren't doing the right thing to build
Speaker 1: up around him in a way that would allow him
Speaker 1: to finish his career in New England, he said, I'm leaving,
Speaker 1: and then he found the perfect offense. Not just that
Speaker 1: everybody latched onto the skill players and there were plenty
Speaker 1: for him to play football with, but the offensive line,
Speaker 1: which has allowed him to still be Tom Brady. I mean, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That's what the and I when I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what the upset of the week was and
Speaker 1: it turned out to be the Browns, I thought, Washington, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get and they're gonna, you know, cook up
Speaker 1: some heat on Brady and he's gonna get Piste off.
Speaker 1: But then that never happened. That never materialized, and once
Speaker 1: that happened, I was like, oh, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a blowout. So to Heineke's credit, and he kind of
Speaker 1: looks like Ryan Phillippe and he's got some arm tats.
Speaker 1: Also there's a little edge to Heinek. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: into Heineke, not in a physical way, but just kind
Speaker 1: of been like, oh, he's kind of interesting to me. Um.
Speaker 1: He had the bad tweet like the next day after
Speaker 1: think everyone found not he didn't have any but they
Speaker 1: they found he has been in some hot water. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that that makes perfect sense because he looks like Ryan
Speaker 1: Philippi with all the ink. But good for him for
Speaker 1: for keeping that game interesting on a Saturday night. I
Speaker 1: want to give if Taylor Herneke does nothing else, you
Speaker 1: allowed that game to be interesting in prime time on Saturday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one last thing I want to say on this
Speaker 1: game was, you know what, it didn't look like the
Speaker 1: Bucks offense anymore though they had they were playing like
Speaker 1: two three tight ends the whole game. They were doing
Speaker 1: play action the whole game. You know, it look like
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense. I don't know if they're going to
Speaker 1: continue that, but I think if you're a Bucks fan,
Speaker 1: you gotta be encouraged that it was. It was a
Speaker 1: pretty hard left turn. They have not played with that
Speaker 1: like heavy personnel, and that's what they thought they needed
Speaker 1: to do to protect the gronk. Grunk barely went out
Speaker 1: on a pass route. I mean, and um, that that
Speaker 1: sort of flexibility to me screams Patriots. It does not.
Speaker 1: It does not look like the normal chuck it up
Speaker 1: Bruce areas. I like. I like the Brady Cameron Brad
Speaker 1: connection last night and getting a few more people in bold.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love their ground game. That's the
Speaker 1: one thing is that they get stuck in that situation.
Speaker 1: But look at we were talked about Antonio Ranald Jones
Speaker 1: is healthy. But if you're if you're depending on Leonard Fournette,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be I mean even with him, it's
Speaker 1: just not it's just not their signature to me. But like, um,
Speaker 1: but then you've got Antonio Brown getting better and better
Speaker 1: every week, and it's a dangerous team. Since Tampa Bay's
Speaker 1: week thirteen by Brady is thrown fourteen touchdowns one interception
Speaker 1: over five straight wins. Compare that to the four games
Speaker 1: before the bucks by when Brady had eight touchdowns at
Speaker 1: seven picks and the Tampa Bay lost three or four.
Speaker 1: It got pretty dark there for a while, but now
Speaker 1: it's feeling really good and this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: great game again next week between New Orleans and Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: A lot of fun. All right? Oh, did we talk
Speaker 1: about the extremely flattering for Tom George blanda side by
Speaker 1: side graphic we've mentioned. I mentioned my my take on that,
Speaker 1: but you could if you have anything to add. I
Speaker 1: don't have anything to add. I was doing some behind
Speaker 1: the scenes work with Ricky while you guys were having
Speaker 1: I'm sure breathlessly awesome conversation. The blended thing did come up,
Speaker 1: so I don't need to add anything to it. Good
Speaker 1: box checked. Let's move on longer away from Ramsey again.
Speaker 1: The public picks pits. Darius Williams jumped in and he's
Speaker 1: gonna house it. I'll pick six. I beat that's a
Speaker 1: touchdown and the Rams extend their lead. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that is JB. Long, friend of the show, Caspn
Speaker 1: with the call, Darius Williams jumped the route in a
Speaker 1: way that you just don't see on a wide receiver screen.
Speaker 1: Uh picked off the Russell Wilson past forty two yards
Speaker 1: for a score. Cam Akers rush for a buck thirty
Speaker 1: one in a touch and the Rams beat the Seahawks
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty. It was Seattle's first home loss and
Speaker 1: the Pete Carroll Era mark. The Rams are moving on
Speaker 1: because their defense is special, maybe the best in the league.
Speaker 1: Maybe definitely, definitely, Maybe, I'd say definitely. And I'm not
Speaker 1: typically someone that you know in mid January is gonna,
Speaker 1: I guess, increase my faith in a team with an offense.
Speaker 1: I don't trust a whole lot um with quarterback issues
Speaker 1: um and a strong defense. But the Rams, the Rams,
Speaker 1: I do. I I really think that they. I think
Speaker 1: they'd be a hot candidate to upset whoever they deal
Speaker 1: with down the stretch because of what because of Brandon Staley,
Speaker 1: the way they're organized, because Aaron Donald, if he's going
Speaker 1: to be healthy, he's got issues health wise going into
Speaker 1: the next game, and what they did to Seattle. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that you know, the Seahawks could not stop
Speaker 1: l A's ground game, but on offense they could not
Speaker 1: convert third downs. Um, they made the biggest mistake in
Speaker 1: the game. What we just heard the pick six? And
Speaker 1: I was sitting there watching this thing and this game also,
Speaker 1: by the way, I I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: you guys, or it was just the time of the day.
Speaker 1: Was this game seven and a half hours long? I
Speaker 1: don't know how long it wasn't really it was literally
Speaker 1: a long game. I think it was the longest game
Speaker 1: of the weekend. Remember we we Yeah, it went almost
Speaker 1: all the way until the next kickoff, It really did.
Speaker 1: And and look at I get that Jared Goff. First
Speaker 1: of all, I mean I have been really hard on
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. I think a lot of people it's it's
Speaker 1: chic to be down on Jared Goff right now, um,
Speaker 1: for for good reason. But he had he does have
Speaker 1: like pins that were justin sort of do his finger
Speaker 1: less than a couple of weeks ago. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that he was in a good position to be
Speaker 1: doing what he was asked to do. But I cannot
Speaker 1: remember a playoff game between two quarterbacks that led their
Speaker 1: teams to Super Bowls. Um, And in this game, like
Speaker 1: the most putrid offensive output that I can recall between
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks of that nature. It was. It was a
Speaker 1: hard watch. It was a long game. It was a
Speaker 1: hard watch. And Greg, I thought you had one of
Speaker 1: the tweets of the weekend when you talked about you know,
Speaker 1: everyone like you're say, everyone says they loved defensive football
Speaker 1: until they have to correct me if I'm misquoting you,
Speaker 1: but until they have to actually sit and watch it.
Speaker 1: It's like, these are two defensive teams where they want
Speaker 1: to be and it's like this game was, um, wait,
Speaker 1: but aren't you the same I not to throw up,
Speaker 1: but like, aren't you the same guys that I slapped
Speaker 1: my forehead at seven seven Arizona? Whatever game you like,
Speaker 1: that's one of the best games. I look like Tennessee
Speaker 1: Ravens today had some great defense. Um, but you've got
Speaker 1: to have real offense sprinkled in and it's got to
Speaker 1: go back and forth. This was great defense against two
Speaker 1: inept offenses. That's that's asking a little bit more. And
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, like, listen, he's going against the Rams defense
Speaker 1: and they're no joke. But he doesn't have any pins
Speaker 1: in his thumb and he played poorly forty two passing yards,
Speaker 1: a completion percentage of second lowest mark of his career.
Speaker 1: And this was all part of a larger story about
Speaker 1: the Seahawks season, which, by the way, it was a
Speaker 1: strange season. They go twelve and four, they win their division.
Speaker 1: They had stretches where the offense was awesome, stretch along
Speaker 1: stretch for the defense was great, but they never were
Speaker 1: at the same time and they so because of that,
Speaker 1: they were never special as a team. And now they're
Speaker 1: one and done in the playoffs. Um, that's frustrating as well,
Speaker 1: because there it should be there. You would think that
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is gonna find a way to make those plays.
Speaker 1: But even when Aaron Donald goes out of the game
Speaker 1: with the rib injury, and thankfully for the Rams, it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a serious injury. Same thing with Cooper
Speaker 1: cups uh injury late in that game. He seems to
Speaker 1: be um possibly able to play next week as well.
Speaker 1: Even when Aaron Donald exits a game, Russell Wilson does
Speaker 1: not have a chance. And that's where I'll put more
Speaker 1: more on Seattle's offense as a whole, and maybe Brian
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer has something to answer to because Russell Wilson was
Speaker 1: pressured on exactly fifty of his dropbacks. That is not
Speaker 1: sustainable and that needs to be fixed. And and some
Speaker 1: of that's on Russell Wilson. It's been the case throughout
Speaker 1: his career, and then in this case, some of it
Speaker 1: was not. I heard some whispers people who watch this
Speaker 1: game closely, who thinks that the Rams height is a
Speaker 1: is a problem for him. There like a huge defensive
Speaker 1: line with Brockers and every everyone, and and you get
Speaker 1: some pressure up the middle with you know, Brockers like
Speaker 1: six six or something, but you know most of them
Speaker 1: are pretty tall, and like he's not seen. He was
Speaker 1: not seeing the field for whatever reason, especially against the Rams.
Speaker 1: But really since week nine, they were just a bad offense.
Speaker 1: And I would say the Rams were a bad offense.
Speaker 1: But it's the reason I picked the Rams, other than
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna root for who my daughter is
Speaker 1: rooting for. And the same reason why Mark was locking
Speaker 1: up the Rams before he jumped off of it to
Speaker 1: a successful Ravens lock. It's like, okay, if they're both
Speaker 1: bad offenses, at least it was the Rams lock, then
Speaker 1: a Seahawks lock, then yeah, that's right, I forgot it.
Speaker 1: We haven't yet like sat down and decided whether that sanction.
Speaker 1: That's We're gonna get to that a little bit later.
Speaker 1: No one has any You didn't change it, you've changed
Speaker 1: it beforehand. But like, at least the the Rams have
Speaker 1: the special group in this game, which is two of
Speaker 1: maybe the four best defensive players in the entire league
Speaker 1: and a really great coach. So that's like, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot for Aaron Rodgers to deal with next week. Now.
Speaker 1: I find it very interesting Sean McVeigh will not give
Speaker 1: any indication early in the week who might start at quarterback.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go through this song and dance again. Um,
Speaker 1: John Wolford, you know, we haven't even mentioned you know,
Speaker 1: left on the first drive with what turned out to
Speaker 1: be a stinger. We didn't know what it was at
Speaker 1: the time. And like a lot of people who were,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking the Rams would win rooting for the Rams,
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, this is this is a bad development
Speaker 1: for the Rams. Like I think Sean McVeigh chose John
Speaker 1: Wolford because he thought they gave them a better chance
Speaker 1: to win. Nick sit up a little bit against the
Speaker 1: defense that knows you really well, and you just played,
Speaker 1: so that's that's part of it too. And and Golf
Speaker 1: came in. He he did just enough. They didn't really
Speaker 1: average any more yards for play than the Seahawks, but
Speaker 1: he avoided the big mistake. And it's just it's just
Speaker 1: such a strange situation that like, Okay, golf goes and
Speaker 1: wins the game, and still mcveigh's not saying he's he's
Speaker 1: the starter next week. It's fascinating and uh. But they
Speaker 1: also seemed like with that defense, I think they could
Speaker 1: almost beat anyone. I thought they would have loved to
Speaker 1: play the Saints. I think they could have shut them down.
Speaker 1: It'll be a little tougher against the backers. Wolford was
Speaker 1: mega piste at Jamal Adams um after that play. Adams
Speaker 1: wasn't listening to Initially they threw the flag and then
Speaker 1: they picked it up and I believe I think it
Speaker 1: was Collinsworth. No, I don't know who was doing the call.
Speaker 1: It's too scrambled in my mind. But said that was
Speaker 1: a bad no callum Aikman. Aikman said it should have
Speaker 1: the flag should have been thrown um. So Wolford that
Speaker 1: that was a tough break for him because that was
Speaker 1: such a huge stage. Maybe, yeah, maybe he ends up
Speaker 1: getting more of a look because the other thing Aikman said,
Speaker 1: and you know, you these guys that are plugged in
Speaker 1: that call the games, you learn a lot during the
Speaker 1: telecast that you know, people that were close and watching
Speaker 1: the Rams practice. And the reason why Jared Goff wasn't
Speaker 1: even starting, wasn't supposed to take a snap in this
Speaker 1: game was because every every fourth ball he threw came
Speaker 1: out of his hand weird and fluttered, So you know,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean, I'll give credit Shan Shan a
Speaker 1: very credit to on a day where it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to trust golf and his struggles and also his injury.
Speaker 1: Now when they ice the game on a third and short,
Speaker 1: they let Goff throw the ball and that resulted in
Speaker 1: the game clinching touchdown. So just a really nice win
Speaker 1: for the Rams, and you hope they're at full strength
Speaker 1: um physically for that game with Donald and Cup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like their seasons kind of a success. Now
Speaker 1: they've they've checked the box of like a lot of things.
Speaker 1: In the McVeigh run, he made the playoffs this first year,
Speaker 1: you make the Super Bowl, now, Okay, you get a
Speaker 1: playoff win, you obviously want you have higher aspirations, but
Speaker 1: it feels like they've kind of over it. I I
Speaker 1: do think what Aikman was saying, though he also was
Speaker 1: just saying how frustrated they were with golf before the injury.
Speaker 1: He what he he made a point to say that,
Speaker 1: and you can kind of pick up that he's been
Speaker 1: saying that they were getting really frustrated and they were
Speaker 1: talking about golf's confidence so that they you know, they
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like golf was was confident right now.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy, but man, the the defense is playing confident.
Speaker 1: I the last thing, sorry, He's just like when when
Speaker 1: the Seahawks got the ball back at the end, it
Speaker 1: was kind of like when when the Ravens run the
Speaker 1: ball down your throat like it was garbage time sort of,
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks really had no chance to win, but
Speaker 1: they still get sacked and they didn't they didn't get
Speaker 1: a single first down and they got sacked two times,
Speaker 1: and that's how you end the game like that. That
Speaker 1: just was like a show of force. But one thing
Speaker 1: about the Rams, like last thing is like Brandon Staley
Speaker 1: um his star is rising, and he's sort of anyone
Speaker 1: that's gotten close to him sees like this football lifer
Speaker 1: who is um, you know, may not be there a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks from now. He's he's interviewing with the Jets,
Speaker 1: Um that Chargers are interested. They're interviewing him, and and
Speaker 1: that's if you're a coach. And we don't ever really
Speaker 1: like see this side of it. But if he ever
Speaker 1: could become the coach of the Chargers, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to move. Um. I don't know what his parental situation is,
Speaker 1: but his kids don't have to do move. It's like
Speaker 1: you've got a franchise quarterback potentially. But Brandon still he
Speaker 1: may be a head coach um a fortnite from now,
Speaker 1: which is a tremendous development for a guy that no
Speaker 1: one knew about a year ago. Aikman also said on
Speaker 1: the telecast that what he has heard is that he
Speaker 1: might be a year or two away. Still might be
Speaker 1: seen as a little green on that he's only thirty
Speaker 1: years old. But at the same time, what there's what
Speaker 1: they are doing, what they did yesterday, what they could
Speaker 1: do next week against Aaron Rodgers, that's better than any job.
Speaker 1: Interview on a zoom call Brandon Saleley could take part in,
Speaker 1: so keep an eye on it. My final thought, ce
Speaker 1: Il Seahawks, thank you for the number twenty three overall
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, and good luck in your negotiations
Speaker 1: with Jamal Adams. I'm sure he'll be fair. Might be
Speaker 1: might be doing Brian's Schttenheimer update on Tuesday. That's what
Speaker 1: my Spidey sends to Temmy. No, no harm to the man,
Speaker 1: but it just feels like that could be coming. Good luck,
Speaker 1: John Schnyder. Let's move on. Four seconds left to get
Speaker 1: one play to make it. The Bills have lost a
Speaker 1: game on this, Murphy, this is a hail Mary situation.
Speaker 1: Behind the snap, rivers back to throw, waiting, waiting, going
Speaker 1: for all of it down the right sideline to pass
Speaker 1: up in the air. It is knocked down and complete.
Speaker 1: Knocked down and complete. My god, I'd knocks it down
Speaker 1: and the clock showed zero. The Bills advance, The Bills
Speaker 1: win it. The Bills win it in the last second.
Speaker 1: The Bills win it. Unbelievable finish. There you go. Great
Speaker 1: called by John Murphy and Eric wood W g R.
Speaker 1: Two guys who obviously waited a long time for that
Speaker 1: and like a hide batted down Philip Rivers desperation heave
Speaker 1: as time ran out the final play in a win
Speaker 1: for the Bills over the Colts. It was Buffalo's first
Speaker 1: playoff win in twenty five years. Josh Allen was at
Speaker 1: it again, passed with three four yards, two passing touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one rushing score, and the Bills it wasn't easy, but
Speaker 1: they found a way and it sets up a great,
Speaker 1: great matchup next week against the Ravens and Orchard Park.
Speaker 1: Greg the culture up for the challenge in this one.
Speaker 1: They really really made the Bills earned. They missed so
Speaker 1: many chances and even then it was it comes down
Speaker 1: to the end. I thought this was the best game
Speaker 1: of the weekend. I thought, you know, they both played well.
Speaker 1: I thought the craziest take I heard of the entire
Speaker 1: weekend was like it was an anti Josh Allen take
Speaker 1: here that they almost blew the lead at the end,
Speaker 1: and that he had the fumble in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and they could have blown Greg and at all. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you're the guy who's always like it doesn't matter who
Speaker 1: recovers the fumble of fumbles of fumble, and that was
Speaker 1: a huge fumble Bowl that they were very lucky that
Speaker 1: the offensive line fell on no doubt, But I think
Speaker 1: to watch that game and not come away with what
Speaker 1: I believe was the reality that Allan was the best
Speaker 1: player on the field by far and had one of
Speaker 1: his better games on a day where he didn't get
Speaker 1: as much help, where the defense wasn't that good, where
Speaker 1: the run game wasn't there, where he was having to
Speaker 1: create on his own. That that's all I mean is
Speaker 1: that I think it was a great Josh Allen game
Speaker 1: and that if he had had like a B game,
Speaker 1: because I think the rest of the team, did you
Speaker 1: know that they might have gone home. Yeah. There were
Speaker 1: a lot of times in this game where Alan, you know,
Speaker 1: he takes a snap, drops back and it's not there,
Speaker 1: like and he you had you he had to go
Speaker 1: through his progressions. He had a bye time. He made
Speaker 1: those type of plays all games. So while the numbers,
Speaker 1: by the way, we're still great, three and three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: it was ran and a touchdown too. Yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't on par with the you know, fan see gold
Speaker 1: Mine of December for him, but still, you know, another
Speaker 1: big performance by a superstar. Yeah, I mean, whether or not,
Speaker 1: like the overall performance matched some of the others. He's
Speaker 1: still he's becoming one of those quarterbacks that does four
Speaker 1: or five things a game that, um, you know, leave
Speaker 1: you dazzled. And my one takeaway you know from the
Speaker 1: cult side was um and it was sort of a
Speaker 1: note to self, Um that I spent the week essentially
Speaker 1: sort of dismissing the Cults um as a balanced but
Speaker 1: unremarkable team. And and yes, that maybe what they are,
Speaker 1: but um, they came so close to knocking off Buffalo,
Speaker 1: which would have been a huge story here that I
Speaker 1: think I just sort of underrated Frank Reich. And they
Speaker 1: may not have all the pieces they need on offense,
Speaker 1: but you know, they for them Like they had that
Speaker 1: one drive that went all the way down to the
Speaker 1: Bill's two yard line and then they're stuffed. They had
Speaker 1: a drive with a killer miss field goal, and it
Speaker 1: really was just um. They had a stuff to point
Speaker 1: conversion as well. It was just like little tiny things
Speaker 1: that the Cults couldn't do well enough. And there were
Speaker 1: a couple of killer off sides this weekend that might
Speaker 1: have been the worst. It was dropped interception. You know
Speaker 1: that that sequence at the end of the first half
Speaker 1: was Bruto because they really it was very similar to
Speaker 1: the Steelers game and that they really outplayed, uh, their
Speaker 1: opponent in the first half. But yeah, that sequence at
Speaker 1: the goal line where they go for it, I don't
Speaker 1: mind them going for it. It's like if you can't
Speaker 1: score on four straight plays from the three and there
Speaker 1: was another short yard of situation, they were bad in
Speaker 1: short yard of all year. Your boy's gotta make that throw.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about difference beween Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers and his legacy as a playoff performer. Uh, that
Speaker 1: throw where he just overshot Michael Pittman is exactly a
Speaker 1: type of throw that that was so close. That was
Speaker 1: an inch. That was an inch like if Pittman and
Speaker 1: stays you know, some people would say if Pittman stays
Speaker 1: on his feet and just runs under it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It was just like that. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that that was an inchest through he had a
Speaker 1: Rivers had a solid but not like amazing game. I
Speaker 1: mean the numbers actually look look crazy, but man, like
Speaker 1: they here's the stat they cross midfield every possession, every
Speaker 1: they so to only end up with how many points
Speaker 1: did they get? Twenty four in the end, they crossed
Speaker 1: midfield every single possession of the game. I'd be a
Speaker 1: little worried that if I was the Bills fan, that
Speaker 1: they gave up four d seventy two yards. That's true,
Speaker 1: but I would point out that like in the first half,
Speaker 1: like the Bills started at their three yard line, therefore
Speaker 1: their six, they're eleven in their fifteen, and I think
Speaker 1: that caused some of their early issues, where the Colts
Speaker 1: in the first half started on average at their own
Speaker 1: thirty six and then it, you know, changed a little bit,
Speaker 1: but they were there was a field position issue going
Speaker 1: on early and the Bills were too powerful to put off.
Speaker 1: I mean, like the missfield goal drive for the Colts
Speaker 1: was a fourteen play drive. Again, I think there's something
Speaker 1: a little bit different in these playoff games where if
Speaker 1: you go fourteen plays the way that they did and
Speaker 1: you come away with no points and that happened on
Speaker 1: two separate dribes, that is a mental killer. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we we touched on it, so I don't want to
Speaker 1: belabor it. But when they cannot convert on that fourth
Speaker 1: down pass to Pittman, you still have the Bills backed
Speaker 1: up to give up. Then a nineties six yard drive
Speaker 1: that includes stopping the Bills on fourth down uh and
Speaker 1: holding him to a potentially long field goal only to
Speaker 1: get drawn off sides UH and then give up the score.
Speaker 1: And there were two plays too long completions that Gabriel
Speaker 1: Davis where he was inbounds by blades of field turf.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just felt like it just wasn't meant
Speaker 1: to be for the Colts, and that I would say, like,
Speaker 1: there's no worse feeling than seeing your season end on
Speaker 1: a day when you felt like you were the better team.
Speaker 1: Watching that I thought the Colts were on that day,
Speaker 1: I would say they were better and they just in
Speaker 1: those in those moments, they just could not make the play,
Speaker 1: whether it was the Rivers throw or the a ball
Speaker 1: on the ground not falling on it, or being disciplined
Speaker 1: to stay back on that Offside's called like the inability
Speaker 1: to just make one or two plays was the difference. Uh.
Speaker 1: And really a tough loss. Yeah, it unfortunately, It's would
Speaker 1: kind of be a fitting way for it to end forever.
Speaker 1: You know, he got the ball at the end with
Speaker 1: the chance. Felt like every Charger's game. It was a
Speaker 1: game where like it looked like I'm I am with you.
Speaker 1: I think they kind of looked like the better team
Speaker 1: that they very similar to the loss they had against
Speaker 1: the Steelers, where I thought they kind of like and
Speaker 1: just throw a bunch of losses. And with the Chargers
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers right like just through just like a
Speaker 1: number of things. You can't put your finger on all
Speaker 1: of them. But it was just like a little crazy.
Speaker 1: I put Frank you know, Frank Reich's time out usage
Speaker 1: was insane. I mean, these coaches, they they spend all
Speaker 1: year looking for edges and little things and then they
Speaker 1: they used timeouts for like avoiding a delay a game
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the third quarter and on terrible
Speaker 1: challenges and and it kills you at the end. I
Speaker 1: mean they needed those time. McDermott was throwing him around
Speaker 1: like like lollipops too, and it drives him crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's I love Rivers, I love watching
Speaker 1: him play, but this is just another game for him,
Speaker 1: and in this time of year, we're just left kind
Speaker 1: of scratching your head. They had they had first and
Speaker 1: ten at the Buffalo forty five yard line with twenty
Speaker 1: eight seconds to play, needing a field goal. And they
Speaker 1: never moved the yard at that point and ended with
Speaker 1: Rivers heaving one dawn. He can't he can't reach the
Speaker 1: end zone from fifty yards. He couldn't do it. I
Speaker 1: wonder where they go. I think Frank Wright already right,
Speaker 1: already came out and said that he wants Rivers back,
Speaker 1: but it would make sense to me for him to
Speaker 1: be in a role where it's Rivers And like, I
Speaker 1: don't like a Darnald type or maybe a rookie that
Speaker 1: you really like, um, but would Rivers a want to
Speaker 1: be in that type of Ryan Fitzpatrick said, up and
Speaker 1: be Will Philip Rivers take the pay cut that would
Speaker 1: go along with that type of one A B type role?
Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see what he does here.
Speaker 1: Man pork buck, poor pork cols. Uh we we should
Speaker 1: give a little love to the Bills fans here. They
Speaker 1: just ended a streak that was as long as uh
Speaker 1: quarter century longer than the Browns, right, or just a
Speaker 1: little less long. I guess what was? It was about
Speaker 1: a year, So think about that. The Browns ended it.
Speaker 1: Since ninety four, no playoffs win the Bills since with
Speaker 1: your stars stepping up like Stefan Diggs. He was awesome too.
Speaker 1: We should give him some love and the Bucks since
Speaker 1: oh two, those were three of the sixth longest in
Speaker 1: h including two of the three longest streaks in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL. It's nice to see a little new blood
Speaker 1: in the win. New England doesn't make the playoffs for
Speaker 1: the first time, and you know this entire My favorite
Speaker 1: image of the weekend, in fact, was the Bills fans
Speaker 1: sobbing openly. It's like a forty four year old father
Speaker 1: of six. I love that, and that means that that
Speaker 1: meant a lot to Bills fans to be able to
Speaker 1: be in that stadium uh and witness uh quite frankly,
Speaker 1: a juggernaut team like that you haven't seen since the
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly glory days. So good for the Bills. You
Speaker 1: know they they'll have a tough matchup next week, but
Speaker 1: I just like their chances. It just seem like a
Speaker 1: special team. Um, all right, I have to write a
Speaker 1: throwaway Well I shouldn't label it as that they don't
Speaker 1: want They don't want me to say that, but I
Speaker 1: have to write an article about which fan base deserves
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl title the most, and where would I
Speaker 1: go with this would I I mean, I know, but
Speaker 1: what do well you wrap it up by noon and
Speaker 1: you move on with your day and then it you know,
Speaker 1: it gets released on the internet. But I mean, your
Speaker 1: passion for internet writing is as all time high. It
Speaker 1: is occasionally high, um it is not always. But I
Speaker 1: I just I don't know how to pick between. Buffalo
Speaker 1: feels like it's it's it's right there in Cleveland too.
Speaker 1: But I'll I wonder who's gonna who's gonna in this?
Speaker 1: Now it seems absurd that I would be writing this.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, like now you'll go counter
Speaker 1: just now you should just go Browns. Anyways, why should
Speaker 1: I should do it one through five and make well
Speaker 1: they haven't been they haven't even been at the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: so you know, at least the bill's got to I
Speaker 1: would say, like the Ravens. Ravens really feel like, well,
Speaker 1: how about the packers. You like the Packers. It's they've
Speaker 1: had a lot of playoff heartbreak actually you know that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll put tremendous amount of thought into this and um,
Speaker 1: you'll see it up there soon. And just for people
Speaker 1: that that don't know like throwaways, like it's like an
Speaker 1: industry term. You know, it's like it's like, um, it's
Speaker 1: just something people using the industry throw away. It's like
Speaker 1: the clock puncher, you know that's it's a type of
Speaker 1: way to describe your own work that you just hope
Speaker 1: your boss is never here. Yeah, it was like, this
Speaker 1: is a good place to discuss that they're dead about it.
Speaker 1: Well Brown, Well, Mark, this was a special day for
Speaker 1: your Browns and for Browns fans like you, Ricky. I
Speaker 1: think we should play Mark out with a song we
Speaker 1: found on the internet that I leave originated around the
Speaker 1: time the announcement was made that the Browns were re
Speaker 1: entering the NFL after the Ravens debacle of the mid nineties. Uh.
Speaker 1: The name of the song is do you know It? Mark?
Speaker 1: Is it America? Wake Up? Is it? Um? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guess it might be here we go again. That is
Speaker 1: indeed the correct s Michael Stanley and the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: All Star band I believe in n song. Drew Carry's
Speaker 1: in the video We get it. Drew Carrey, you're from Cleveland?
Speaker 1: Did you like sports? All right? Mark? Congratulations, thank you,
Speaker 1: You're very happy for you. Listen, I locked up the
Speaker 1: Steelers don't even feel a little bit bad that it
Speaker 1: eventually as takes me out of the competition. Don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, Thank you both, and best of
Speaker 1: luck going forward. House Money Baby. All Right, we'll be
Speaker 1: back on Tuesday UM with another episode and we'll break
Speaker 1: down everything that's going on the league ahead of the
Speaker 1: Division Round playoffs, which are Cleveland Browns are playing in
Speaker 1: this Dan Hanson signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Maleman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boston, Rooky Hollywood until Tuesday, cracking up Ricky
Speaker 1: in a brand for you And when they shout it out,
Speaker 1: now game we go Brown the game. The game se