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Speaker 1: As always, I am joined by the Chadster. What up?
Speaker 1: Feel tired as hell?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm exhausted, but I am I'm trying to bring
Speaker 2: the energy back. I'm tired as bad as tired is
Speaker 2: gonna get. But I'm trying to bring the energy up
Speaker 2: to the Chadster level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm tired today too. I'm not supposed to have
Speaker 1: caffeine anymore because of the seaboat, but today I cheated
Speaker 1: and I went with cafine because I was dragging a
Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know. I had a very weird dream.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it really quickly, because you know,
Speaker 1: usually I don't remember my dreams. This one was so vivid.
Speaker 1: It woke me up, and it woke me up for
Speaker 1: the day and I was freaked out. So I had
Speaker 1: this dream that I was at this convention but it sucked,
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, one of those conventions
Speaker 1: where there's like a million vendor tables, and for some
Speaker 1: reason during the convention, I decided this sucks. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go take a shower, and I ended up walking through
Speaker 1: the convention into I think it was a relative's house.
Speaker 1: This is so bizarre. And I go and I take
Speaker 1: a shower in the house and no one's home, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I'm gonna take my shower.
Speaker 1: Then I have to proceed back to my table in
Speaker 1: order to continue to on my merchandise. But I get
Speaker 1: out of the shower and I'm in a towel and
Speaker 1: I'm walking in my towel and it's pitch blackness and
Speaker 1: I can't see a thing, and I'm like, I can't
Speaker 1: find the lights, and I'm like, how the hell am
Speaker 1: I going to find my table? And I'm in a towel,
Speaker 1: and then someone starts rubbing me and rubbing my skin
Speaker 1: in the dark, and I'm going, who's that? Who's that?
Speaker 1: Who are you? Where am I? And I woke up,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is that the most bizarre?
Speaker 3: That a super bizarre.
Speaker 2: When did Francy never have a blackout?
Speaker 1: I was in a room that had no lights, in
Speaker 1: a towel, trying to get back to my table to sign,
Speaker 1: and then I woke up thinking, oh my god, is
Speaker 1: this man gonna it was in a man Is he
Speaker 1: gonna attack me? Who is the person? Who is the
Speaker 1: mystery person in my dream?
Speaker 3: I don't know a storyline.
Speaker 1: They caressed my arm and then my leg and my
Speaker 1: thigh and I was like jumping and I'm like who
Speaker 1: is this? And then I woke up day and I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that freaks me out. Man.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is so weird.
Speaker 2: Not only was the convention slow, but now we have
Speaker 2: a predator that's lurking around at this convention. You decided
Speaker 2: to take a shower at that your relatives was conveniently
Speaker 2: located right inside of or right next.
Speaker 1: To the convention center.
Speaker 3: Such a freaking weird dream. I wake up from.
Speaker 1: These dreams and they feel like they really happened, like
Speaker 1: it's real life, and then I'm freaked out all day.
Speaker 1: I was like what triggered this? I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it was bizarro world and I don't know who it was.
Speaker 1: The lights never came on. I just opened my eyes
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, thank god, that was a dream.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're a relative of Franccene and you'd like
Speaker 2: to book her for a convention, it's that ECW Dva
Speaker 2: Franccene on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You're connected to a big convention center and let me
Speaker 1: know we can work something else. Why would I leave
Speaker 1: to take a shower?
Speaker 2: Well, that that joke kind of writes itself if you
Speaker 2: want to talk about certain fans.
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to go.
Speaker 2: That's low hanging fruit and it's way too early in
Speaker 2: the show to start going there.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was schemed out because I'm like,
Speaker 1: who's rubbing me? And then I was freaked out because
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, what is happening. I just thought
Speaker 1: i'd share that, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's weird. H
Speaker 1: It's a very weird, very bizarre and very I'm baffled.
Speaker 1: It's baffling to me because I don't know where it came,
Speaker 1: where it's stemmed from. So I know I have anxiety
Speaker 1: about you'll hear this after the fact, but I have
Speaker 1: anxiety about getting to West Virginia this weekend coming up
Speaker 1: and we'll go into a recap like when it's over.
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure it's lovely. I'm sure I had a
Speaker 1: great time and the show was fantastic, But it's Sandman
Speaker 1: and I and we only have like a forty two
Speaker 1: minute layover, and it's Charlotte, and Charlotte is a big
Speaker 1: ass airport for those of you who don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: if we're not lucky enough to be in the same
Speaker 1: vicinity when we got off the plane, we're screwed. And
Speaker 1: you know, he's old and he can't run, and so
Speaker 1: he's gonna make me run and say hold the plane,
Speaker 1: which they're gonna be like, lady, no way, we gotta go.
Speaker 1: And so I have really been anxiety about these flights
Speaker 1: coming up, and you think it would be easier to
Speaker 1: get to a place like West Virginia, but it is
Speaker 1: a royal pain in the tukist like it's the worst
Speaker 1: flight in the world. So I don't know. I'm major
Speaker 1: anxiety over it.
Speaker 3: That part of West Virginia pain in the neck again.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not I'm not going to visit, you guys,
Speaker 2: way too far now the other side, closer to where
Speaker 2: I am. It is right over the Virginia line, like
Speaker 2: where Winch Remember you were in Winchester, remember that about
Speaker 2: a year and a half ago written and I.
Speaker 1: Drove eighty seven thousand hours. I don't even know.
Speaker 2: Well Winchester Virginia where you did an appearance probably maybe
Speaker 2: two years ago. At this point, it's like right over
Speaker 2: the line there, and that's how close it is to
Speaker 2: where I am. But then where you are is like
Speaker 2: that's on the Kentucky border, so that's while you're doing it.
Speaker 1: I found out I'm going. I called Moose and I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, can I just ask you, like what
Speaker 1: is happening with this schedule? And he's such a doll.
Speaker 1: He just sent me everything. He goes, listen, when we
Speaker 1: get off this phone call, I will send you everything
Speaker 1: you need to know. When he did, he sent me
Speaker 1: a full itinerary. And that's another thing. I think. I
Speaker 1: have to like be dressed. I only have an hour
Speaker 1: once we get off the plane, get to the hotel,
Speaker 1: and then we have to like get ready really quick
Speaker 1: and jump in the purse. I was like, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna have to get ready at home and just be
Speaker 1: ready to go just in case there's a delay coming in.
Speaker 1: Like I need to be ready so I might have
Speaker 1: to wear like a funky outfit on the plane and
Speaker 1: cover up. I don't know, I'm stressed. Man.
Speaker 2: If if you run through the Charlotte Airport with Sam
Speaker 2: man yelling hold the plane, please turn your camera around
Speaker 2: and start filming it.
Speaker 3: No, all the plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's got a bad hip, bad knees, like
Speaker 1: he's a mess. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't
Speaker 1: need a wheelchair, you know, just for me to get
Speaker 1: him from A to b like wherever we I please,
Speaker 1: just the airplane, Gods, just let it be the terminal
Speaker 1: next to us. That would be like ideal, and then
Speaker 1: we could just relax. I don't want to miss the
Speaker 1: flake because then I'll miss my appearance.
Speaker 3: And I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I'm stressed. But anyway, I'm sure it's lovely and we
Speaker 1: had a great time and we'll talk about it, but
Speaker 1: right now freaking out.
Speaker 2: I do have some questions that I've been saving in
Speaker 2: my database from submissions. If you'd like to dig into
Speaker 2: those for the rest of this lovely holiday that we're
Speaker 2: recording together.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I will try, and you know, my memories
Speaker 1: like shop, but I will try to answer them as
Speaker 1: best I can and as strictly as I can, because
Speaker 1: I'm an open bookcare on ies up here.
Speaker 2: As that these questions kind of stretch across different planes,
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're they're pretty good.
Speaker 3: I gotta say so.
Speaker 2: Your memory will go to the test, but your memory
Speaker 2: will also.
Speaker 3: Have to think a little bit. You know, You're You're
Speaker 3: gonna be a little introspective here.
Speaker 1: Okay, sometimes something triggers me and I can remember, So
Speaker 1: maybe these will be good. So I'll do my best.
Speaker 3: All right, here we go.
Speaker 2: First question is from Matt a little Bett.
Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, in which.
Speaker 2: Directions does franc And see the wrestling industry needing to
Speaker 2: go in order to flourish and grow the fan base
Speaker 2: both nationwide and internationally.
Speaker 1: Like back to where it was when wrestling was super hot.
Speaker 3: That's what I'd assume.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like the problem that I think professional
Speaker 1: wrestling has encountered, and this is something that I had
Speaker 1: mentioned before. I feel like as people get older, as
Speaker 1: fans get older, some of them tend to grow out
Speaker 1: of it, and they're not as devoted to the business
Speaker 1: or to you know, their fandom as they once were.
Speaker 1: I went through a time where all I could think
Speaker 1: about was wrestling. I had to watch every single program,
Speaker 1: I had to know every single thing that was going on.
Speaker 1: I think not only because I was in the business,
Speaker 1: but I loved the business so much, and it went
Speaker 1: beyond ECW for me, and I was, you know, at
Speaker 1: one point, I was just watching everything. I was just
Speaker 1: a fan of the products. A lot of people tell me,
Speaker 1: I just don't watch it anymore, you know, I kind
Speaker 1: of grew out of it and I got other things
Speaker 1: going on in my life and blah blah blah. A
Speaker 1: lot of people tell me it's the storylines and the
Speaker 1: characters that are portrayed. Today, I feel like no one
Speaker 1: is really knocking talent because there's so much talent out there,
Speaker 1: And you know, just by watching WW or AW or
Speaker 1: any of the other brands, because there's so many brands
Speaker 1: out there, but those are the top two, you can
Speaker 1: tell that these guys and girls are very, very talented
Speaker 1: and can put on a hell of a match. A
Speaker 1: lot of people these days are turned off by the
Speaker 1: direction that the company is going, particularly AW and I
Speaker 1: hate to pick at them because we seem to pick
Speaker 1: at them a lot. But that's you know, I read
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't watch a lot, but I do
Speaker 1: read a lot on X and on Instagram, and I
Speaker 1: read what fans are saying, and that is the consensus
Speaker 1: that they're not happy with the product, not talent, you know,
Speaker 1: not due to the talent, but due to maybe storylines
Speaker 1: or just the lack of a push for certain people,
Speaker 1: And that kind of can turn somebody off from watching.
Speaker 1: And if you compare the numbers these days to the
Speaker 1: numbers like in the nineties, I know it's you know,
Speaker 1: you have to move on and times change. I understand that,
Speaker 1: but the numbers were so much higher back in the day.
Speaker 1: Millions and millions of people were watching wrestling, and now
Speaker 1: in a week some companies can't even break the million
Speaker 1: viewer point, you know what I mean. So there's something
Speaker 1: missing in the product that is turning the world off,
Speaker 1: and no one can seem to pinpoint it. Now, WWE
Speaker 1: kind of turned in the right direction, and you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're breaking Like I think I saw something like
Speaker 1: two point five million at one point for like a
Speaker 1: raw or SmackDown. I'm not really sure which one it was.
Speaker 1: I think that's like the highest ife might have seen
Speaker 1: in a really long time. But when you used to draw,
Speaker 1: you know, one company five six seven million, then the
Speaker 1: other company six seven eight million, the other company two
Speaker 1: three four million. Something's missing collectively, not just with one company,
Speaker 1: it's with the whole sport. Why don't we have that
Speaker 1: audience that we used to have. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Interesting, you know, I think about like Cornette's argument about Russo.
Speaker 2: When Russo was writing the shows is that he wrote
Speaker 2: the Howard Stern, the Jerry Springer style program, right, and
Speaker 2: that's what he watched go back to the nineties, and
Speaker 2: that's what millions of people were watching and listening to
Speaker 2: every day. So it was easy to kind of bring
Speaker 2: that audience over to watching something like wrestling. Now, if
Speaker 2: you kind of bring it over to what people are
Speaker 2: watching and you were going to relate it to programming.
Speaker 3: I think that's why people were so invested.
Speaker 2: In this bloodline storyline over the last year or so,
Speaker 2: because it was very episodic and how they presented their
Speaker 2: segment every week for a year and a half or
Speaker 2: two years however, how long they were together as a group.
Speaker 2: Is that something they have to kind of borrow from
Speaker 2: our similar popular storyline formats from pop culture again, like
Speaker 2: how Russo did it with the WWF, and that's how
Speaker 2: they kind of took off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, because, like I said, the times change,
Speaker 1: you know, decades have gone by, but it's like we
Speaker 1: haven't been able to capture the magic of Like the
Speaker 1: the nineties era in wrestling, there were so many big
Speaker 1: stories going on on TV, especially in the Big two
Speaker 1: that you know WWF or WWE when whenever they transitioned
Speaker 1: in WCW and like the nWo DX, like the Attitude era,
Speaker 1: there were so many things that were cool and hip
Speaker 1: and like you look at wrestling today and seriously, what
Speaker 1: stands out is like the cool hip factor right to
Speaker 1: draw those people in. You know, I could sit there,
Speaker 1: like you know, last night I was watching the King
Speaker 1: and Queen of the Ring pay per view Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 1: I said to my husband, the crowd's hot. They're not
Speaker 1: They're not a French crowd. The French were like the
Speaker 1: number one crowd that I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: But they were hot in Saudi Arabia. They were a
Speaker 1: good crowd to work in front of the building, looked
Speaker 1: great and from what I've seen, I mean, the guys
Speaker 1: and girls gave it. They're all and tremendous workers. But
Speaker 1: there's something missing. I want something to want to bring
Speaker 1: me back every week and say that makes me want
Speaker 1: to watch raw or I have to DVR SmackDown. I
Speaker 1: want to be captivated. I want to be sucked into
Speaker 1: the product again. And right now, I'm a casual fan.
Speaker 1: I watch when I can. I don't DVR shows. You know,
Speaker 1: We're not a channel that reports on every little segment
Speaker 1: that goes on because you and I just are too
Speaker 1: busy and we don't watch every single you know, wrestling
Speaker 1: match that they haven't. Me could, But I would like
Speaker 1: to be that kind of fan again who wants to
Speaker 1: watch it and it's not a chore to sit down
Speaker 1: and watch eighty hours of wrestling a week, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I'm not there, and that makes
Speaker 1: me sad because I once was there. Right, it was everything.
Speaker 1: Wrestling was everything to me. I loved it, loved it
Speaker 1: to the point where I would sleep and I would
Speaker 1: dream of spots that I can do and things that
Speaker 1: I want to see happen, and you know, i'd wake
Speaker 1: up and write stuff down because we didn't have these
Speaker 1: phones that I could just put a memo out. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It consumed me. It doesn't consume
Speaker 1: me anymore. And maybe that's because I did grow up
Speaker 1: and I do have a family, and I am a
Speaker 1: mother and a wife and all this stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: I got things going on, and wrestling is kind of
Speaker 1: like my side chick, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: she's there, but I can't give her all my attention
Speaker 1: because I have other things going on. So as a fan,
Speaker 1: I would love for a segment to blow me away
Speaker 1: to the point where I need to keep watching to
Speaker 1: see what happens next. And for me, that's not out
Speaker 1: there and I wish it was. Yeah, so maybe that's
Speaker 1: what these fans are thinking. You know, you have your diehards. Again.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this WWE versus AW fans. You can't
Speaker 1: like both. There's maybe five percent who like both, but
Speaker 1: the rest of them have to pick a side, which
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Just watch what you want to watch and
Speaker 1: enjoy the product, you know what I mean. There's those
Speaker 1: diehard fans, But where are the millions and millions that
Speaker 1: were watching in the nineties and early two thousands. They've
Speaker 1: moved on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they remember when they watch wrestling. They don't watch wrestling,
Speaker 2: or they channel serving they go, oh, look there's wrestling.
Speaker 2: I used to watch this and then they go, no,
Speaker 2: what else is on?
Speaker 1: Or they watch the old stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh tell me.
Speaker 1: I'm watching Barely Legal ninety eight right now. I just
Speaker 1: saw you, and I'm like, awesome, watch what you enjoy? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, And a lot of people throw back to
Speaker 1: the nineties, whether it be ECW product or early WCW
Speaker 1: or WWF. They like the old stuff better than current,
Speaker 1: you know. And that really doesn't count because that's not
Speaker 1: a Nielsen reading.
Speaker 3: Popper, No, not at all.
Speaker 1: No, what are we missing? What is? You know, what
Speaker 1: is not available to us as fans that were waiting
Speaker 1: for to get us hooked again? What are we waiting for?
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, waiting for that well, the boom.
Speaker 2: I mean, some people think the boom is here, you know,
Speaker 2: the boom is you compare it to where it was
Speaker 2: three or four years ago, you know, it just pales
Speaker 2: in comparison. If you think that this is a boom,
Speaker 2: then obviously you weren't alive in ninety eight.
Speaker 1: It's going in the right direction, it is, but it needs,
Speaker 1: I mean, it needs a lot more momentum. And it's
Speaker 1: funny because, like I I say, when I'm watching WWE's product,
Speaker 1: those houses are always packed, yes, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I've never well, nine times out of ten. I've
Speaker 1: never seen somebody out a show that can turn me
Speaker 1: opposite hard camera and it's completely empty. So the fans
Speaker 1: are coming out for the product to watch it live,
Speaker 1: but where are they at home watching this? The numbers
Speaker 1: aren't reflecting like the enthusiasm I see online and people
Speaker 1: just loving the product, Like, why aren't people watching? Something's missing?
Speaker 2: I wonder, do you think that other fans have driven
Speaker 2: wrestling fans away?
Speaker 3: Everythink of that?
Speaker 1: No, because I feel like these wrestling fans like to fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but I feel like today's fan
Speaker 2: is a little bit more obsessive than that's not going
Speaker 2: to go back in the day, But okay, make casual
Speaker 2: fan that might go to a show or watch a
Speaker 2: show be like, I'm not, as you know, into this
Speaker 2: as I used to be, because I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: just not I know, these people that watch it, they're
Speaker 2: a little too obsessed. I might not be into it
Speaker 2: anymore because people are like too upset.
Speaker 3: I don't know. If I'm just throwing a throwing out of.
Speaker 1: That would make me want to check it out before
Speaker 1: I purchase a ticket. I mean, at least give it
Speaker 1: a shot and watch the show before I go they're live,
Speaker 1: the live events are drawing. Like for WWE, the live
Speaker 1: events are drawing. It's the television that's not drawing the numbers.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear they're killing it at live events
Speaker 1: any w I don't know, Like the one pay per
Speaker 1: view I watched, it was a huge building and it
Speaker 1: was packed to the gills and then you get like
Speaker 1: a TV and you you know. Unfortunately I watched the
Speaker 1: video last week. It might have been the ROH, So
Speaker 1: I don't know if they do that before or after
Speaker 1: the tapings, and maybe some people went home, but the
Speaker 1: one side was completely empty, and it broke my heart
Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh god, this is terrible.
Speaker 1: As a performer, you don't want to come out and
Speaker 1: see that, you know what I mean. And that's why
Speaker 1: I had mentioned like maybe smaller venues would be.
Speaker 3: Don't get why they don't do that.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine them running like the Manhattan Center and
Speaker 2: those old raws and how they are not small?
Speaker 1: I mean they can get like a three four thousand
Speaker 1: seat you know, little arena and packet. I mean, the
Speaker 1: pay per views are sellar for AW from what I've seen,
Speaker 1: they are drawing in droves. They're doing great, but it's
Speaker 1: these TV tapings and again I don't know the placement
Speaker 1: of the card and who goes on when, but I
Speaker 1: just know, like I saw. I don't want to name
Speaker 1: names because I don't want embarrass anyone, but I saw
Speaker 1: some people coming down the ramp and the camera panned
Speaker 1: over to the one side and there was no one
Speaker 1: in the crowd. And I'm telling you this went up.
Speaker 1: It was one of those big azarinas and no one
Speaker 1: was there.
Speaker 3: That's horrible.
Speaker 1: It was terrible. And this was last week. I saw
Speaker 1: it and I was like, oh shit, not again. So
Speaker 1: I feel like, maybe TV tapings, you know, go for
Speaker 1: a smaller building and save some money. I know they
Speaker 1: got money coming out their ass. I get it, but like,
Speaker 1: save some money and do the smaller TV taping buildings
Speaker 1: and then the pay per views. Because the pay per
Speaker 1: view I could I didn't even see like an empty seat.
Speaker 1: It was and I was thrilled for them. I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: this is what it needs to be. But you know,
Speaker 1: I just there's something missing and what is it? Why
Speaker 1: aren't people watching?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want them too, because I want this business to
Speaker 1: thrive and I want my friends to make as much
Speaker 1: money as possible.
Speaker 2: Maybe there needs to be a reboot of VCW.
Speaker 1: Let's try another, a third attempt at this company and
Speaker 1: see what we can pull out our ass.
Speaker 3: Baby sure all right, Mike m from Philly.
Speaker 2: For the women in today's wrestling product, how would Francine
Speaker 2: coach them to make their promos sound more believable and authentic?
Speaker 1: Who? So we? Nick and I were talking about this,
Speaker 1: and if you haven't heard that podcast, go back and
Speaker 1: listen to it because there were some really good stories
Speaker 1: that were told. We were talking about promos and he
Speaker 1: was saying, how like in WWE, everything is so scripted
Speaker 1: and you sound like a robot because you are reading,
Speaker 1: you know, verbatim, word for word. And I was saying
Speaker 1: how nervous I used to be. And Shane says the
Speaker 1: story all the time. When he comes back and he
Speaker 1: sees me, you know, my hands are shaking because I
Speaker 1: have a line coming up in my you can see
Speaker 1: in my face. I just delivery. I want to be perfect,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking too hard. When you can do a
Speaker 1: promo and just get bullet points, it is so much
Speaker 1: more realistic than having somebody hand you a script and
Speaker 1: say remember this, because when you have to remember things,
Speaker 1: it gets like for me anyway, I get to the
Speaker 1: point where I'm mixing things up and I just want
Speaker 1: hit this, this and this, and then I'll do it
Speaker 1: from the heart and that is so much more believable
Speaker 1: because there's more passion and it just it sounds real
Speaker 1: instead of reading off a script. So advice to or
Speaker 1: even males out there, it doesn't have to be females.
Speaker 1: Like if you're doing promos, especially I know, WW, you
Speaker 1: can't tell them what to do. You will get in
Speaker 1: trouble anywhere else. If you can just ask for some
Speaker 1: bullet points and ten minutes to go over a scenario
Speaker 1: in your head, it'll be the best promo that you do.
Speaker 1: Because the scripted ones I just don't enjoy, never did,
Speaker 1: never will. And I like to make stuff up on
Speaker 1: the fly. Okay, that's always fun too, And that was
Speaker 1: a thing about cameo that I enjoyed because I would
Speaker 1: never like I would just open my thing and they
Speaker 1: and I would just go and it was an acting
Speaker 1: class for me, Like I would just make up it
Speaker 1: would whether it be dumb or cool or whatever. Practice
Speaker 1: in front of the mirror, you know, put your practice,
Speaker 1: put yourself over, your character over and I don't know,
Speaker 1: just like I just feel like if it's scripted, it's
Speaker 1: just you look like a mechanical robot. And I just
Speaker 1: I you can tell back in the day when somebody
Speaker 1: was reading off a prompter or a monitor and to
Speaker 1: me it was just like, oh, that didn't go off well.
Speaker 1: But then you see the people who are just like
Speaker 1: moving around and they're relaxed, and they're having a good
Speaker 1: time and they're just speaking from the heart. And those
Speaker 1: are the best promos out there.
Speaker 2: The best and any What about when you can pull
Speaker 2: in anything from like not like from like your own
Speaker 2: personal experience, Like you're like, if it's a real shoot,
Speaker 2: like do you think that that enhance that enhances anything?
Speaker 2: Or do you think that that cut you have to
Speaker 2: you have to like let them in a little bit
Speaker 2: more like or do you think a shoot brings down
Speaker 2: a promo?
Speaker 1: So one of the best promos ever was you know,
Speaker 1: Shane throwing down the NWA belt and he channels his father. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was a shoot that was from the heart, that
Speaker 1: was real, and everybody puts that promo over to this day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent you in real life. But if
Speaker 1: you can take little bits and pieces and make it
Speaker 1: your own and incorporate it into your character. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody can do that, but if you can,
Speaker 1: I think it's a bonus. And unless you have like
Speaker 1: a goofy as you know, gimmick, you know you don't
Speaker 1: want to do something like that because then that's not
Speaker 1: going to work. But you know, most of the people
Speaker 1: these days are coming out as themselves. There's not many
Speaker 1: gimmicks out there anymore, you know what I mean. Somebody
Speaker 1: might have a cool catchphrase or something, but you don't
Speaker 1: see too many garbage men or clowns or that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And I'm not knocking it. Everybody has a
Speaker 1: place in this business, but for the most part, people
Speaker 1: are themselves and people are using their real names. And
Speaker 1: you know, it could i mean, channeling something from your past, especially,
Speaker 1: you got to think is it relevant to the story
Speaker 1: that you're trying to tell. And if that's a yes,
Speaker 1: go ahead and use.
Speaker 2: It right because some shoots could go over people's heads
Speaker 2: and they might not know what the hell you're talking about.
Speaker 3: But if you can make it relevant, then it works.
Speaker 1: You might have to explain yourself a little bit, but
Speaker 1: there's always a backstory, and you know, people are intrigued
Speaker 1: by that. And I like it when it's a little
Speaker 1: bit shoot, a little genuine. I find it captivating.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a shoot. That question was a shoot.
Speaker 1: That's a shoot.
Speaker 3: Brother, all right, how about this question? John asked from Bayshore.
Speaker 2: These are via email too, So I'm going back and
Speaker 2: forth between two screens. Did you and Joey Styles rehearse
Speaker 2: your interactions on TV?
Speaker 3: He always had the best reactions to you in ring.
Speaker 1: And we've never rehearsed. I sometimes, I you know, might say, uh,
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to think of it. Might have been
Speaker 1: heat Wave ninety eight where I give him THEO. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that's called the motor boat boat? Is
Speaker 1: that what? That's good? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: I think he knew that ahead of time, Like I
Speaker 1: think we told him I was going to do that,
Speaker 1: And I think he was worried about his wife because
Speaker 1: she didn't like stuff like that. I don't think she
Speaker 1: liked when I like kissed him on the cheek. But
Speaker 1: we never rehearsed for the most part, Like ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the time, I would just try and either pop
Speaker 1: him or embarrass him, you know. And I I remember
Speaker 1: one promo there was I dropped Shane and I opened
Speaker 1: the show and I dropped maybe, oh, Joey dropped something
Speaker 1: and he looked up my dress and then I grab
Speaker 1: him and I pick him up and I'm mad at him,
Speaker 1: and then I give him a kiss him the cheek
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't care, because you know, my
Speaker 1: character was like that, like stuff like that. Yes, we knew,
Speaker 1: but little things if I would walk by him in
Speaker 1: the ring or like grab him or do something. I
Speaker 1: never told him I was doing any that just to
Speaker 1: pop them, and he'd give me that look like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get me in trouble, like because the crowd
Speaker 1: ate that stuff up. They liked it, so why not?
Speaker 3: And he was genuine you could tell Joey was.
Speaker 1: Joey and I were very good friends, and we had
Speaker 1: such a good rapport with each other. And I always
Speaker 1: would tell him on commentary, you can say whatever you
Speaker 1: want and I will never ever get mad at you.
Speaker 1: I told him you have full liberties like go at me,
Speaker 1: and he would be like, are you sure, I'm like
Speaker 1: honey and all right, so and then he let me
Speaker 1: have it sometimes and I was fine with it, you
Speaker 1: know so, and sometimes he would apologize. I'm like, no need,
Speaker 1: it was great, come on.
Speaker 3: Never anything that you fell across the line at.
Speaker 1: All, No, no, never nothing. The only thing I didn't
Speaker 1: like that was said was when Paul Hayman told sinister
Speaker 1: Minister to say eat a sandwich, because that's when I
Speaker 1: was having trouble with the sheets and my weight, okay,
Speaker 1: And that made me cry. That hit home to me,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm so self conscious about
Speaker 1: my weight and how I look and then you had
Speaker 1: to throw that in there, like that pissed me off,
Speaker 1: and that hurt my feelings. Other than that, nothing ever
Speaker 1: bothered me.
Speaker 2: Your your response would have been, why don't you do
Speaker 2: some fake coke on another well pay review twenty five
Speaker 2: years and get him kicked off their television?
Speaker 1: That was relevant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's messed up, see that Like that's yeah, that's
Speaker 2: that's something that even if that's a given line, that's
Speaker 2: one that crosses the line. Even then that's shock value
Speaker 2: for the sake of shock value, and that's hurtful.
Speaker 1: Literally went to Paul crying and asked him to take
Speaker 1: it off and he wouldn't. That pissed me off.
Speaker 3: I don't blame you, and that one sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but otherwise can't complain, right.
Speaker 3: All right? Phil P via email? What do you fill up?
Speaker 3: Fill up? Phil? Phil pvia email?
Speaker 2: What do you think would have happened if Al Snow
Speaker 2: had stayed in ec W?
Speaker 1: I think it would have just continued, uh, the way
Speaker 1: it was going, because head was so over at this point,
Speaker 1: and we would have had to get more heads. We
Speaker 1: would order like a thousand heads and distribute them, so
Speaker 1: the bigger the venues, we would have to order more heads.
Speaker 1: But his character man was so over when you know,
Speaker 1: Paul reinvented him, and I just feel like he would
Speaker 1: have just continued, you know, because he I mean, he's
Speaker 1: an established worker. The problem with Al was his character development,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's something that Paul just reinvented him,
Speaker 1: and it just took off like a rocket ship, and
Speaker 1: it was awesome and everybody knew Al could work, but
Speaker 1: then diving into this new character, it showed a different
Speaker 1: side of Al that maybe you had never seen before
Speaker 1: as a character, and it was just amazing, you know,
Speaker 1: and he was so great to work with, So I
Speaker 1: just feel like he probably would have continued, probably would
Speaker 1: have had the belt for a while, and you know,
Speaker 1: and Head would have reigned supreme. Head probably would have
Speaker 1: got Manager of the year, you know, beat me out.
Speaker 1: But that's okay.
Speaker 3: That would have been a great angle.
Speaker 1: I'm on ahead because she won and I didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you have turned him heel at any point
Speaker 2: and made that character like a crazy heel where he's
Speaker 2: literally losing his mind but on the heel side.
Speaker 1: Well, he yeah, I mean he was losing his mind.
Speaker 1: You know, he was crazy talking to this manufactured you know,
Speaker 1: mannequin head. So it doesn't get more out there than that.
Speaker 3: But as a heel, right now, you're more diabolical.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the fans even as a heel, because I
Speaker 1: feel like they loved Heads so much. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he would have made the full train, he probably
Speaker 1: would have been like a tweener.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you're.
Speaker 1: Sucking limbo and like you're trying to get that other half,
Speaker 1: but they just love you too much to hate you,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's just the way I see it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the WWF tried to turn him heel around
Speaker 2: two thousand.
Speaker 3: It did not work, That's what I'm saying. It was like,
Speaker 3: I mean, it was late ninety nine.
Speaker 2: He was with Foley and they were trying to turn
Speaker 2: him heel against the rock.
Speaker 3: It just did not work.
Speaker 2: They took away the music, they made him a little
Speaker 2: more sinister, and just by the time I think, you know,
Speaker 2: Spring came around.
Speaker 3: That's what he was doing the.
Speaker 2: Head cheese with Steve black and I completely made.
Speaker 1: I had such a crush on Steve Blackman. I loved
Speaker 1: that man. Where is he now?
Speaker 2: I remember you so I've kept that in the back
Speaker 2: of my mother. I remember you saying that. I swear
Speaker 2: I have an email for Steve Blackman, and I'm almost
Speaker 2: I want to get him on the show.
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I haven't heard his name in like forever.
Speaker 3: He does he does conventions. He I think I believe
Speaker 3: he has a bail bond's business.
Speaker 1: Oh well, he was like a monster. He was like
Speaker 1: one of those guys that was just huge, Like he
Speaker 1: looked like he can kill somebody. He probably could, but
Speaker 1: there was just something about him, like like that whole roster.
Speaker 1: I was drawn to him and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: he's so handsome, Like I don't know what it was, ladies,
Speaker 1: any ladies feel the same, I don't know. It's just
Speaker 1: a good looking guy, man marble man like burly, like
Speaker 1: he could put on a cowboy hat, ride of horse
Speaker 1: rescue and damsel in distress. That's what he looked for,
Speaker 1: like he now like in this day and age, he
Speaker 1: looked he looked like an m M. A fighter.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what he was going for.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, he just.
Speaker 3: He was in He was the MMA guys while they
Speaker 3: were like not cool yet. How he was like that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a big fantasy.
Speaker 3: But with Al Snow he was head cheese.
Speaker 1: You gotta go with the flow.
Speaker 2: They brought the personality out of him though, you know,
Speaker 2: they brought the little comedic side house.
Speaker 3: Yeah you cheese. Yeah, all right, this one is from
Speaker 3: beaver Dan. Beaver Dan.
Speaker 1: Is he from Beaver County in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: Possibly? I think you go a lot of roots with
Speaker 3: the name Beaver That's true. Okay, I'm okay, I'll I'll go.
Speaker 3: I'll just go to the question.
Speaker 2: All right, does Francy and Field female wrestlers on only
Speaker 2: fans or similar sites help the industry, or is that
Speaker 2: something which in the long term hurts their professional growth
Speaker 2: inside the industry.
Speaker 1: OnlyFans is the norm these days for like ninety percent
Speaker 1: of females in this world, not even in wrestling, Like
Speaker 1: everybody has an OnlyFans page. I don't think it hurts
Speaker 1: it's it's supplementing income. You know, sexuality is part of wrestling.
Speaker 1: You choose your boundaries and what you feel you can do,
Speaker 1: what's comfortable, what you can live with every day, and
Speaker 1: you make your money from it. And that's that some
Speaker 1: girls are willing to do more than others. I don't
Speaker 1: knock them for it. It's again a way to make
Speaker 1: a living, so I don't I don't feel like it
Speaker 1: hurts them. I feel like the male or some female
Speaker 1: fans too. I just feel like, you know, they'll follow
Speaker 1: them wherever they go or whatever they're doing to make
Speaker 1: a buck. So if it's only fans, if it's you know,
Speaker 1: doing conventions, if it's a twitch stream, if it whatever
Speaker 1: it is, there are so many options these days to
Speaker 1: make extra income. I don't feel it hurts anyone. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's the norm now and it's just up
Speaker 1: to the individual on how far they want to take it.
Speaker 1: And if they are comfortable doing certain things for money.
Speaker 3: They do a lot of stuff for money.
Speaker 1: Oh that's them, you know. And and it's okay. If
Speaker 1: you can lay your head on your pillow every night
Speaker 1: and say I'm good with what I did, then by
Speaker 1: all means, make your money. You know, I'm not knocking
Speaker 1: you do what you want.
Speaker 2: No, And you see, even like outside of wrestling, I mean,
Speaker 2: there are some a list celebrities and recording artists that
Speaker 2: have OnlyFans, and not only do they use it to
Speaker 2: put out picture content, they release music or girls streaming
Speaker 2: content that they have, they'll put it out there and
Speaker 2: they make millions. I mean, and it's like, wow, geez,
Speaker 2: I guess that's your way of reaching your fan base
Speaker 2: now it is.
Speaker 1: Believe me, I would love to make millions on only fans.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really love to, but I just don't. I
Speaker 1: maybe it's my age. I you know, I don't see
Speaker 1: myself doing that that platform. It's not something I want
Speaker 1: to do at this stage in the game. But if
Speaker 1: you're young and look good and you're a okay with it,
Speaker 1: and I mean, who cares, get your money? Get it
Speaker 1: while you can there's one day it's not gonna happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's all the filters in the world. But if you're
Speaker 1: sixty four and you're still trying to do your only fans,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, there is a fan.
Speaker 1: Base for well, yes there is, there.
Speaker 3: Is, There is a fan base for.
Speaker 1: That, and and fine, I'm not gonna knock that either.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, I know what I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be doing at this stage in the game, and
Speaker 1: it's not only fans, so you know, but you do
Speaker 1: you Bill.
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine being a fan again growing up
Speaker 2: in the nineties, two thousands, early two thousands and having
Speaker 2: that accessibility to talent like that that.
Speaker 3: I grew up, you know, watching on to now.
Speaker 2: Granted, okay, sidebar, we knew of the people that were
Speaker 2: in magazines at the time, and there.
Speaker 3: Were pictures online that you could go find. But this
Speaker 3: is different.
Speaker 2: This is you have direct connect to the person, and
Speaker 2: some of them you can send a request to and
Speaker 2: a day later you got it in your inbox.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing because the industry is, the entertainment industry
Speaker 1: in general, was so untouchable when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: You can write a fan letter, but don't expect one back.
Speaker 1: And nine times out of ten, if you got one back,
Speaker 1: it was from the publicist and maybe a rubber stamp
Speaker 1: signature or so. It's something like that back then, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Nowadays, you can talk to anyone.
Speaker 1: You can slide in DMS. You'd be talking with an
Speaker 1: Oscar winner or a Grammy Award winning art. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could talk to anybody. It is so easy to
Speaker 1: get in touch with these people. But I just remember,
Speaker 1: like back in I remember back in the day, I
Speaker 1: was such a huge fan of Villanova basketball and it
Speaker 1: was it was when they beat Georgetown and won everything.
Speaker 1: They were the champs for that year. Like, I was
Speaker 1: such a fan and there was one particular player that
Speaker 1: I loved and I wrote him two letters. I think
Speaker 1: I was in eighth grade, like I was young, but
Speaker 1: I wrote him and he wrote me back twice and
Speaker 1: sent me pictures twice. And I thought that and then
Speaker 1: my mom was like, no, you need to stop because
Speaker 1: this man's in college caroling in high school, Like you
Speaker 1: need to stop. And I didn't write anything like dirty.
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I admire you as
Speaker 1: a player. I'm such a fan, you're so good at
Speaker 1: what you do, like gushing like a little teenage crush,
Speaker 1: you know. But he was so sweet and genuine and
Speaker 1: I can tell it was his penmanship. And he wrote
Speaker 1: me back and he sent me the autograph pictures, and
Speaker 1: I was just over the moon with that. I was like,
Speaker 1: I love this guy. And then I watched him and
Speaker 1: I was like, I got a letter from him. It
Speaker 1: was so awesome, you know what I mean. That's the
Speaker 1: closest I've ever come to fandom, Like, that's the only
Speaker 1: time I can ever remember reaching out to a celebrity. Well,
Speaker 1: and not like he was like this huge celebrity, but
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was on the Cinderella Villanova
Speaker 1: basketball team. And you don't remember who it was, Harold Jensen.
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah I didn't hear it.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I might have not said his name, Harold Jensen.
Speaker 1: I believe it was number thirty two.
Speaker 2: Harold Jensen. Yeah, writing the hymn down So I want
Speaker 2: to look him up.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he was Uh he might have played either
Speaker 1: guard or forward. I can't remember that. This is going back,
Speaker 1: but they won it all that year and my dad
Speaker 1: even took me to a game. We went and we watched.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to meet him in person, but that
Speaker 1: was my only fan letter I think I ever wrote
Speaker 1: to somebody, because I just I wanted a picture and
Speaker 1: I just loved him so much, and he was so
Speaker 1: nice and but again, he wasn't an Emmy Award winner
Speaker 1: or you know, like an untouchable person in the entertainment field,
Speaker 1: but he took the time to get back to me,
Speaker 1: and I always remember that. I thought that was so sweet.
Speaker 2: I wrote a letter to one Vincent Kennedy McMahon when
Speaker 2: I was in middle school, and I got a response
Speaker 2: back from his office, Oh, from his secretary, thanking me
Speaker 2: for the letter. Oh, and they didn't send me anything
Speaker 2: outside of the letter and just thanking me for contacting
Speaker 2: me to thanking me for contacting mister McMahon.
Speaker 3: And he appreciated the letter. I gotta find it.
Speaker 2: The only problem is if we were going to give
Speaker 2: the chance to shoot name, which were not, they just they.
Speaker 3: Addressed it to the wrong name.
Speaker 2: So I have this great letter that's too.
Speaker 3: Me, But it's not me, it's was.
Speaker 1: It was it signed by Vince McMahon.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's an auto pen. Vince McMahon signature. It's
Speaker 2: still great. I still have it. I mean it's because
Speaker 2: it's on the old school WWF letterhead.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: So when I actually in this past weekend, I found
Speaker 2: all the business cards all the people that I met
Speaker 2: with when I was originally interviewing there. But I wish
Speaker 2: the letters in another box. But yeah, I wrote a
Speaker 2: letter to Vince McMahon. I got an answer back from
Speaker 2: his that's perfect, wonderful.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go there either.
Speaker 1: Oh God, do we have time for one more? Yeah?
Speaker 2: John W from we go back to the email John W.
Speaker 3: From Syracuse.
Speaker 2: He asked, who were some of your favorite backstage workers?
Speaker 1: And he's, oh, my god, I've been asked that a
Speaker 1: million times, and just talent.
Speaker 3: Wise, behind the scenes workers, behind the.
Speaker 1: Scenes, I mean our cameraman, Ron and Charlie were the best.
Speaker 1: I love them to death. I just talked to Ron,
Speaker 1: I think for the first time since DCW folded in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. I just spoke to him a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, for like the first time. But
Speaker 1: they were great, and teas were really nice too. We
Speaker 1: had a married couple that worked with us, and they
Speaker 1: were always so sweet. Who else like Damien, God rest
Speaker 1: his soul. He was so good to Shane and I
Speaker 1: and drove us everywhere and handled that. He was like
Speaker 1: in charge of our merch. I don't know. There was
Speaker 1: a Trish, There was Mo. They they would like drive
Speaker 1: people around. Trish helped out in the back whatever we needed.
Speaker 1: Trish was there. Doctor Mark Allen, who I just saw
Speaker 1: at uh Wrussell con and he sat with me for
Speaker 1: about a half hour and we conversed. And he's a doll.
Speaker 1: He was a pediatrist, but he was our doctor and
Speaker 1: would uh would help us if we needed. He took
Speaker 1: me to the hospital. He wrote with me in the
Speaker 1: emergency the emergency vehicle when I broke my pelvis. Like,
Speaker 1: we had good people. We had a lot of good
Speaker 1: people on staff that were, you know, willing to do whatever.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Rob Finstein and his crew. I've known Rob
Speaker 1: now forever and still friends with Rob and still work
Speaker 1: with Rob to this day. And you know, he was
Speaker 1: he was a big part of ECW talent wise for
Speaker 1: a minute as seven eleven, but so much with the
Speaker 1: the camera shooting, you know, fan cam footage for us
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So we had a lot of
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes that were cool. I know I'm
Speaker 1: missing oh Atlas. I just saw Ronnie for the first
Speaker 1: time also at Russell Con and he looks exactly the same.
Speaker 1: But you know, we we had such a great crew
Speaker 1: with Atlas that would always protect us. And I don't
Speaker 1: know so many people, so many great people.
Speaker 2: We always hear about, you know, folks from the ECW family.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe somebody's girlfriend or somebody working like the
Speaker 2: merchandise Dand was that like a night of decision or
Speaker 2: if they were missing somebody, or was that just like
Speaker 2: a given if you brought someone of the show, they
Speaker 2: might be working a ticket taker or merchandise.
Speaker 1: Or well, like I said, Damien was like our main
Speaker 1: merch guy. But then Bella forgot Bella she's a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: She would help with the merchandise too, and she came
Speaker 1: to a lot of the shows. But I guess, like
Speaker 1: we were on the road and were flying to events,
Speaker 1: I guess we just had to go with people that
Speaker 1: were there and we can trust, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if we flew. I don't think we flew certain people,
Speaker 1: like if they were in the area, they would be
Speaker 1: the ones doing the job, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So so I don't think it was like, well, you're
Speaker 1: our main merch person, You're gonna fly every everywhere we go.
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't think that was the case.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember how often people came,
Speaker 1: but I do remember like Tommy saying, well, we need
Speaker 1: this done tonight, can you help out to certain people
Speaker 1: or whatever? And again it was more like a mom
Speaker 1: and pop. Well it's I mean, you know, we were
Speaker 1: a professional company, but we didn't have the income to
Speaker 1: be consistent with certain roles, you know, because it costs money.
Speaker 1: It's another hotel room, it's another flight, it's another mouth
Speaker 1: to feed. It's we you know, got to feed your
Speaker 1: workers that are there. Take care of the core staff,
Speaker 1: you know. Right, all right, good group of people. I
Speaker 1: miss them all. I love them, very good.
Speaker 3: Good way to end it. Solid nice.
Speaker 1: Oh well those were good questions. Appreciate them again. If
Speaker 1: you want to send in any questions. What is the
Speaker 1: email that you would.
Speaker 2: Use all podcast questions at gmail dot com. Very very
Speaker 2: easy for me to compile them, so please send them there.
Speaker 2: It's in my Twitter bio if you want to drop them.
Speaker 2: I get them every so often. Where people just send
Speaker 2: them to me. We should publicize that a lot more
Speaker 2: and we can get a ton more questions. But I've
Speaker 2: been compiling these for quite a while. Just send them there,
Speaker 2: all podcast questions at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: I enjoy answering these fan questions, and you know, and
Speaker 1: like I said, some of them are a little redundant,
Speaker 1: but you might have missed an answer, So I'll just
Speaker 1: keep answering them. It's fine with me. I don't mind.
Speaker 2: It's fine with me too, because the more questions she answers,
Speaker 2: the more we get to find out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I'm an open book for the
Speaker 1: most part. I will share information and unless it's in
Speaker 1: the vult If it's in the vault, it's there until
Speaker 1: I die. There's no way I'm sharing that and believing
Speaker 1: there's stuff in the vault.
Speaker 2: Unless you have a dream about it where you're walking
Speaker 2: through a convention.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't true at all. I don't know where
Speaker 1: that came from, so that's beyond my comprehension at this point.
Speaker 3: Did you ever come out in a blackout?
Speaker 2: Were you ever given a blackout entrance at all where
Speaker 2: you had to appear in the ring?
Speaker 3: Honest question? The cha Virginia.
Speaker 1: No, I know, I was in the ring several times
Speaker 1: when they shut the turned off the lights and I
Speaker 1: was already in the ring, but I don't I might
Speaker 1: have been under the ring once, I can't remember, and
Speaker 1: then I had to pop out for something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you guys know, you know, there's some people who
Speaker 1: know my career better than I do. But several times
Speaker 1: the lights would go out and I'd be in there
Speaker 1: and it's scared because it's like, okay, where are you
Speaker 1: hear memlr?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the fan decibel level goes up like
Speaker 2: twentyfold because they go nuts when the lights go out,
Speaker 2: because yeah, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: The difference these days is everybody will whip out their
Speaker 1: cell phones internal and their their lights the flashlight, but
Speaker 1: back then, we didn't have that, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: we didn't have that back in the day. So it
Speaker 1: was dark, like really dark. Nowadays when they try and
Speaker 1: do these lights out, things you can see like certain
Speaker 1: people removing and stuff's going on. But back in the day,
Speaker 1: it was like total darkness. So I remember literally feeling
Speaker 1: the ropes like to get around, like Okay, I got
Speaker 1: to be in the corner for this or I got
Speaker 1: to get out of the way because this one's running
Speaker 1: in and it was scary.
Speaker 3: It's a scary thing, I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to be hit with something you're
Speaker 1: not suppose to be hit with, So no, that.
Speaker 2: Sucks when Sabo's got to get in there, go Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just cower in the corner. I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get hit by that. Where's the chair flying from?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: Well that's all we got for this week.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that was a good one again. Thank you
Speaker 1: to all who sent questions in. We'll probably do this
Speaker 1: maybe once a month.
Speaker 2: If we can absolutely keep them coming in, we'll do
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Well, where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Slow burn until November? The summertime is a slow slow
Speaker 2: time right now. I'm just loving life, working working hard
Speaker 2: on eyes up here.
Speaker 1: That's it, okay, just going to enjoy the summer with
Speaker 1: the kids, right.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: So yeah, just follow me at chat E and B
Speaker 2: on X and keep your eyes on eyes up here
Speaker 2: here on iHeartRadio wherever you get. You get your podcast
Speaker 2: on YouTube, TikTok at.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: Let me let me pull it up because I always
Speaker 2: forget it. But you got you gotta get with this
Speaker 2: on TikTok. If you haven't yet, you were going to
Speaker 2: be missing out on quite the tiktoking experience.
Speaker 3: You like that. I made that one up to the
Speaker 3: Tiktoking talking.
Speaker 1: I have a show coming off. It's myself, Shane Douglas Sandman,
Speaker 1: and I believe Phonsie is on it as well. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find it. It is in Indiana, and I
Speaker 1: kind of of course I can't find the graphic for it.
Speaker 1: It's on I believe, what is it June twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: Where the hell's the graphic? Good Lord fifty bash at
Speaker 1: Beckley Posters here, and I can't find the one I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: I don't absolutely know.
Speaker 1: So it's it's for Scott Hewlett and the Heat at
Speaker 1: Shenanigan's podcast. Here it is. I found it, thank god.
Speaker 1: It's called Every Child Wins. It's Saturday, June twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: and it is at Tippy Canoe County Fairgrounds in Lafayette, Indiana.
Speaker 1: It's a benefits show for the Muscular Dystrophee Association. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's me Sandman Shane and I think Phonsie was at it.
Speaker 1: I want to say he was, And we're doing a
Speaker 1: meet and greet during the day and then who knows,
Speaker 1: we might be appearing on the show somewhere at night.
Speaker 1: And Shane and I are also doing a seminar that
Speaker 1: Saturday on June twenty ninth in Lafayette as well, So
Speaker 1: if you're interested, you can DM Scott qwleid on X
Speaker 1: or you can call him at seven sixty five four
Speaker 1: two one three four seven to two and there's only
Speaker 1: thirty spots available and I'm not sure or how many
Speaker 1: spots are left, So if you're available for that seminar,
Speaker 1: it's the first one that Chane and I are doing
Speaker 1: together and it's very informative. I think it's fifty dollars
Speaker 1: per person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing that now. That's fantastic. Take advantage of that,
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's before the show that afternoon. We're going
Speaker 1: to do that. And you know, if you're not subscribed
Speaker 1: to our YouTube channel, please go over to ECWDVA Francine
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Speaker 1: be a channel member, it's only five ninety nine. I
Speaker 1: hope you're staying safe, I hope you're staying healthy, and
Speaker 1: most of all, I hope you're staying extreme. There were