WEBVTT - Ask Francine *ALMOST* Anything: EXTREME Fan Questions 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.440 Hey, everyone is between of the stream crem scene and 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.320 you are listening to Eyes up here with screen Scene 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.440 on the iHeart Radio network or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.199 As always, I am joined by the Chadster. What up? 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:43.479 Feel tired as hell? 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:48.160 Oh I'm exhausted, but I am I'm trying to bring 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.839 the energy back. I'm tired as bad as tired is 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.519 gonna get. But I'm trying to bring the energy up 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:54.960 to the Chadster level. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.080 Yeah, I'm tired today too. I'm not supposed to have 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.040 caffeine anymore because of the seaboat, but today I cheated 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.360 and I went with cafine because I was dragging a 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.279 little bit. I don't know. I had a very weird dream. 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.320 I'll tell you about it really quickly, because you know, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.319 usually I don't remember my dreams. This one was so vivid. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.520 It woke me up, and it woke me up for 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.040 the day and I was freaked out. So I had 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:24.880 this dream that I was at this convention but it sucked, 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.000 and it was like, you know, one of those conventions 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:33.640 where there's like a million vendor tables, and for some 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.839 reason during the convention, I decided this sucks. I'm gonna 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.760 go take a shower, and I ended up walking through 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.400 the convention into I think it was a relative's house. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.280 This is so bizarre. And I go and I take 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.880 a shower in the house and no one's home, right, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.520 And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I'm gonna take my shower. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.520 Then I have to proceed back to my table in 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.000 order to continue to on my merchandise. But I get 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.560 out of the shower and I'm in a towel and 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.960 I'm walking in my towel and it's pitch blackness and 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.480 I can't see a thing, and I'm like, I can't 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.680 find the lights, and I'm like, how the hell am 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.800 I going to find my table? And I'm in a towel, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:21.160 and then someone starts rubbing me and rubbing my skin 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.480 in the dark, and I'm going, who's that? Who's that? 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.000 Who are you? Where am I? And I woke up, 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.800 Oh my gosh, is that the most bizarre? 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.600 That a super bizarre. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.320 When did Francy never have a blackout? 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.640 I was in a room that had no lights, in 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.239 a towel, trying to get back to my table to sign, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.520 and then I woke up thinking, oh my god, is 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.240 this man gonna it was in a man Is he 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.640 gonna attack me? Who is the person? Who is the 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.000 mystery person in my dream? 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.080 I don't know a storyline. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.160 They caressed my arm and then my leg and my 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.359 thigh and I was like jumping and I'm like who 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.600 is this? And then I woke up day and I 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.679 was like, Oh, that freaks me out. Man. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.760 I was like, this is so weird. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.160 Not only was the convention slow, but now we have 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.600 a predator that's lurking around at this convention. You decided 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.760 to take a shower at that your relatives was conveniently 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.640 located right inside of or right next. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.200 To the convention center. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.359 Such a freaking weird dream. I wake up from. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.160 These dreams and they feel like they really happened, like 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.519 it's real life, and then I'm freaked out all day. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.000 I was like what triggered this? I don't know, but 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.600 it was bizarro world and I don't know who it was. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.560 The lights never came on. I just opened my eyes 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.840 and I was like, oh, thank god, that was a dream. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.840 Well, if you're a relative of Franccene and you'd like 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.280 to book her for a convention, it's that ECW Dva 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:48.400 Franccene on Twitter. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.280 You're connected to a big convention center and let me 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.680 know we can work something else. Why would I leave 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:55.480 to take a shower? 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.200 Well, that that joke kind of writes itself if you 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.160 want to talk about certain fans. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:03.080 But I'm not going to go. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.560 That's low hanging fruit and it's way too early in 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:06.840 the show to start going there. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.520 So I was like, I was schemed out because I'm like, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.720 who's rubbing me? And then I was freaked out because 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.640 I'm just like, Okay, what is happening. I just thought 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.760 i'd share that, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's weird. H 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:26.840 It's a very weird, very bizarre and very I'm baffled. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.839 It's baffling to me because I don't know where it came, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.680 where it's stemmed from. So I know I have anxiety 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.159 about you'll hear this after the fact, but I have 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.960 anxiety about getting to West Virginia this weekend coming up 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.480 and we'll go into a recap like when it's over. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.880 Because I'm sure it's lovely. I'm sure I had a 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.640 great time and the show was fantastic, But it's Sandman 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.800 and I and we only have like a forty two 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:57.799 minute layover, and it's Charlotte, and Charlotte is a big 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.680 ass airport for those of you who don't know, Like, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.039 if we're not lucky enough to be in the same 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:08.039 vicinity when we got off the plane, we're screwed. And 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.280 you know, he's old and he can't run, and so 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.359 he's gonna make me run and say hold the plane, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.920 which they're gonna be like, lady, no way, we gotta go. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:24.040 And so I have really been anxiety about these flights 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.919 coming up, and you think it would be easier to 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.159 get to a place like West Virginia, but it is 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.600 a royal pain in the tukist like it's the worst 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:38.720 flight in the world. So I don't know. I'm major 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:39.920 anxiety over it. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.000 That part of West Virginia pain in the neck again. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.080 That's why I'm not I'm not going to visit, you guys, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.640 way too far now the other side, closer to where 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.240 I am. It is right over the Virginia line, like 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.920 where Winch Remember you were in Winchester, remember that about 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.800 a year and a half ago written and I. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.800 Drove eighty seven thousand hours. I don't even know. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.200 Well Winchester Virginia where you did an appearance probably maybe 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.360 two years ago. At this point, it's like right over 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.760 the line there, and that's how close it is to 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.160 where I am. But then where you are is like 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.440 that's on the Kentucky border, so that's while you're doing it. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.400 I found out I'm going. I called Moose and I 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.120 was like, hey, can I just ask you, like what 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.200 is happening with this schedule? And he's such a doll. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.080 He just sent me everything. He goes, listen, when we 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.520 get off this phone call, I will send you everything 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.320 you need to know. When he did, he sent me 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.960 a full itinerary. And that's another thing. I think. I 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.800 have to like be dressed. I only have an hour 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.719 once we get off the plane, get to the hotel, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.359 and then we have to like get ready really quick 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.240 and jump in the purse. I was like, I'm probably 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.680 gonna have to get ready at home and just be 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.760 ready to go just in case there's a delay coming in. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.039 Like I need to be ready so I might have 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.840 to wear like a funky outfit on the plane and 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.839 cover up. I don't know, I'm stressed. Man. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.039 If if you run through the Charlotte Airport with Sam 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.840 man yelling hold the plane, please turn your camera around 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.320 and start filming it. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.520 No, all the plane. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.000 Yeah, well he's got a bad hip, bad knees, like 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.560 he's a mess. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:26.320 need a wheelchair, you know, just for me to get 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.400 him from A to b like wherever we I please, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.600 just the airplane, Gods, just let it be the terminal 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.960 next to us. That would be like ideal, and then 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.440 we could just relax. I don't want to miss the 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.880 flake because then I'll miss my appearance. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.200 And I don't want that. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.320 I'm stressed. But anyway, I'm sure it's lovely and we 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.080 had a great time and we'll talk about it, but 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.600 right now freaking out. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.000 I do have some questions that I've been saving in 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.400 my database from submissions. If you'd like to dig into 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.200 those for the rest of this lovely holiday that we're 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:04.840 recording together. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.400 Okay, well, I will try, and you know, my memories 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.920 like shop, but I will try to answer them as 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.200 best I can and as strictly as I can, because 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.040 I'm an open bookcare on ies up here. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:21.640 As that these questions kind of stretch across different planes, 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.360 you know, they're they're they're pretty good. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:24.120 I gotta say so. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.880 Your memory will go to the test, but your memory 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:27.560 will also. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.000 Have to think a little bit. You know, You're You're 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.560 gonna be a little introspective here. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.000 Okay, sometimes something triggers me and I can remember, So 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.839 maybe these will be good. So I'll do my best. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:37.960 All right, here we go. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.040 First question is from Matt a little Bett. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.719 Hey, Matt, in which. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.760 Directions does franc And see the wrestling industry needing to 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.720 go in order to flourish and grow the fan base 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.120 both nationwide and internationally. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.800 Like back to where it was when wrestling was super hot. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:08:58.920 That's what I'd assume. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:05.000 Yes, I feel like the problem that I think professional 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.360 wrestling has encountered, and this is something that I had 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:15.360 mentioned before. I feel like as people get older, as 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.960 fans get older, some of them tend to grow out 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:25.559 of it, and they're not as devoted to the business 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.480 or to you know, their fandom as they once were. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.719 I went through a time where all I could think 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.960 about was wrestling. I had to watch every single program, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.480 I had to know every single thing that was going on. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.600 I think not only because I was in the business, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.120 but I loved the business so much, and it went 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.160 beyond ECW for me, and I was, you know, at 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.120 one point, I was just watching everything. I was just 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.760 a fan of the products. A lot of people tell me, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.960 I just don't watch it anymore, you know, I kind 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.680 of grew out of it and I got other things 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.200 going on in my life and blah blah blah. A 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:12.640 lot of people tell me it's the storylines and the 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:20.080 characters that are portrayed. Today, I feel like no one 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.440 is really knocking talent because there's so much talent out there, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:29.440 And you know, just by watching WW or AW or 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.559 any of the other brands, because there's so many brands 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.240 out there, but those are the top two, you can 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.680 tell that these guys and girls are very, very talented 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.120 and can put on a hell of a match. A 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.240 lot of people these days are turned off by the 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:48.080 direction that the company is going, particularly AW and I 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:52.120 hate to pick at them because we seem to pick 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:57.079 at them a lot. But that's you know, I read 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.200 a lot. I don't watch a lot, but I do 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.560 read a lot on X and on Instagram, and I 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.280 read what fans are saying, and that is the consensus 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:12.040 that they're not happy with the product, not talent, you know, 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.479 not due to the talent, but due to maybe storylines 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.480 or just the lack of a push for certain people, 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.600 And that kind of can turn somebody off from watching. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.080 And if you compare the numbers these days to the 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.600 numbers like in the nineties, I know it's you know, 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.800 you have to move on and times change. I understand that, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.480 but the numbers were so much higher back in the day. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.360 Millions and millions of people were watching wrestling, and now 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:49.160 in a week some companies can't even break the million 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.920 viewer point, you know what I mean. So there's something 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.600 missing in the product that is turning the world off, 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.400 and no one can seem to pinpoint it. Now, WWE 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.000 kind of turned in the right direction, and you know, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.040 they're they're breaking Like I think I saw something like 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.760 two point five million at one point for like a 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.840 raw or SmackDown. I'm not really sure which one it was. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.640 I think that's like the highest ife might have seen 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:24.000 in a really long time. But when you used to draw, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.160 you know, one company five six seven million, then the 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.040 other company six seven eight million, the other company two 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:37.640 three four million. Something's missing collectively, not just with one company, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.960 it's with the whole sport. Why don't we have that 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.840 audience that we used to have. I don't know. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.360 Interesting, you know, I think about like Cornette's argument about Russo. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.680 When Russo was writing the shows is that he wrote 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.640 the Howard Stern, the Jerry Springer style program, right, and 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.079 that's what he watched go back to the nineties, and 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.560 that's what millions of people were watching and listening to 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.080 every day. So it was easy to kind of bring 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:12.360 that audience over to watching something like wrestling. Now, if 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.520 you kind of bring it over to what people are 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.200 watching and you were going to relate it to programming. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.959 I think that's why people were so invested. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.600 In this bloodline storyline over the last year or so, 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.200 because it was very episodic and how they presented their 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.319 segment every week for a year and a half or 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.800 two years however, how long they were together as a group. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.680 Is that something they have to kind of borrow from 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:43.560 our similar popular storyline formats from pop culture again, like 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.160 how Russo did it with the WWF, and that's how 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.480 they kind of took off. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:53.439 Yeah, I don't know, because, like I said, the times change, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:58.000 you know, decades have gone by, but it's like we 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:03.280 haven't been able to capture the magic of Like the 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:07.439 the nineties era in wrestling, there were so many big 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.200 stories going on on TV, especially in the Big two 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.160 that you know WWF or WWE when whenever they transitioned 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:20.560 in WCW and like the nWo DX, like the Attitude era, 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:25.280 there were so many things that were cool and hip 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:30.480 and like you look at wrestling today and seriously, what 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.240 stands out is like the cool hip factor right to 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.000 draw those people in. You know, I could sit there, 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.320 like you know, last night I was watching the King 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.600 and Queen of the Ring pay per view Saudi Arabia. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.320 I said to my husband, the crowd's hot. They're not 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.360 They're not a French crowd. The French were like the 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.560 number one crowd that I've ever seen in my life. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.560 But they were hot in Saudi Arabia. They were a 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.880 good crowd to work in front of the building, looked 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.360 great and from what I've seen, I mean, the guys 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:06.880 and girls gave it. They're all and tremendous workers. But 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:15.040 there's something missing. I want something to want to bring 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.760 me back every week and say that makes me want 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:23.360 to watch raw or I have to DVR SmackDown. I 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.800 want to be captivated. I want to be sucked into 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.160 the product again. And right now, I'm a casual fan. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.720 I watch when I can. I don't DVR shows. You know, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:40.320 We're not a channel that reports on every little segment 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.320 that goes on because you and I just are too 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.640 busy and we don't watch every single you know, wrestling 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:50.200 match that they haven't. Me could, But I would like 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.200 to be that kind of fan again who wants to 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.320 watch it and it's not a chore to sit down 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.520 and watch eighty hours of wrestling a week, you know 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.480 what I mean. But I'm not there, and that makes 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:08.080 me sad because I once was there. Right, it was everything. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.400 Wrestling was everything to me. I loved it, loved it 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.160 to the point where I would sleep and I would 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.640 dream of spots that I can do and things that 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.720 I want to see happen, and you know, i'd wake 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.280 up and write stuff down because we didn't have these 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.800 phones that I could just put a memo out. You 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.880 know what I'm saying. It consumed me. It doesn't consume 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.080 me anymore. And maybe that's because I did grow up 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.280 and I do have a family, and I am a 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.400 mother and a wife and all this stuff. You know, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.720 I got things going on, and wrestling is kind of 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.680 like my side chick, you know what I mean. Like 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.120 she's there, but I can't give her all my attention 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.880 because I have other things going on. So as a fan, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.920 I would love for a segment to blow me away 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.080 to the point where I need to keep watching to 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.560 see what happens next. And for me, that's not out 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:08.679 there and I wish it was. Yeah, so maybe that's 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.840 what these fans are thinking. You know, you have your diehards. Again. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:17.719 We've talked about this WWE versus AW fans. You can't 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.800 like both. There's maybe five percent who like both, but 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.680 the rest of them have to pick a side, which 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.199 is ridiculous. Just watch what you want to watch and 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.640 enjoy the product, you know what I mean. There's those 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.840 diehard fans, But where are the millions and millions that 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.440 were watching in the nineties and early two thousands. They've 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:35.879 moved on. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:42.360 Yeah, they remember when they watch wrestling. They don't watch wrestling, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.840 or they channel serving they go, oh, look there's wrestling. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.760 I used to watch this and then they go, no, 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:47.600 what else is on? 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.800 Or they watch the old stuff. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:51.560 Oh tell me. 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.720 I'm watching Barely Legal ninety eight right now. I just 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:59.440 saw you, and I'm like, awesome, watch what you enjoy? Absolutely, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.520 you know, And a lot of people throw back to 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:07.080 the nineties, whether it be ECW product or early WCW 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.959 or WWF. They like the old stuff better than current, 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.720 you know. And that really doesn't count because that's not 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:14.919 a Nielsen reading. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.160 Popper, No, not at all. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:21.640 No, what are we missing? What is? You know, what 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.960 is not available to us as fans that were waiting 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:30.360 for to get us hooked again? What are we waiting for? 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:37.560 I don't know, yeah, waiting for that well, the boom. 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.359 I mean, some people think the boom is here, you know, 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.919 the boom is you compare it to where it was 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.119 three or four years ago, you know, it just pales 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.359 in comparison. If you think that this is a boom, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.280 then obviously you weren't alive in ninety eight. 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.919 It's going in the right direction, it is, but it needs, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.880 I mean, it needs a lot more momentum. And it's 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:04.080 funny because, like I I say, when I'm watching WWE's product, 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.680 those houses are always packed, yes, you know what I mean, 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.720 Like I've never well, nine times out of ten. I've 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:16.040 never seen somebody out a show that can turn me 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.240 opposite hard camera and it's completely empty. So the fans 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.800 are coming out for the product to watch it live, 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.480 but where are they at home watching this? The numbers 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:32.879 aren't reflecting like the enthusiasm I see online and people 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:39.760 just loving the product, Like, why aren't people watching? Something's missing? 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.000 I wonder, do you think that other fans have driven 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:45.439 wrestling fans away? 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:47.760 Everythink of that? 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.800 No, because I feel like these wrestling fans like to fight. 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.600 Yeah, I don't know, but I feel like today's fan 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.040 is a little bit more obsessive than that's not going 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.720 to go back in the day, But okay, make casual 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.320 fan that might go to a show or watch a 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.520 show be like, I'm not, as you know, into this 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:07.720 as I used to be, because I don't know, it's 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.800 just not I know, these people that watch it, they're 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:11.639 a little too obsessed. I might not be into it 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.240 anymore because people are like too upset. 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.000 I don't know. If I'm just throwing a throwing out of. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.040 That would make me want to check it out before 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.199 I purchase a ticket. I mean, at least give it 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.160 a shot and watch the show before I go they're live, 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.840 the live events are drawing. Like for WWE, the live 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:37.720 events are drawing. It's the television that's not drawing the numbers. 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:41.000 I mean, I hear they're killing it at live events 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.399 any w I don't know, Like the one pay per 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.840 view I watched, it was a huge building and it 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.280 was packed to the gills and then you get like 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.560 a TV and you you know. Unfortunately I watched the 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.560 video last week. It might have been the ROH, So 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.120 I don't know if they do that before or after 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.480 the tapings, and maybe some people went home, but the 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.920 one side was completely empty, and it broke my heart 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.000 and I was just like, oh god, this is terrible. 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.199 As a performer, you don't want to come out and 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.320 see that, you know what I mean. And that's why 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:19.040 I had mentioned like maybe smaller venues would be. 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:20.679 Don't get why they don't do that. 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.080 Can you imagine them running like the Manhattan Center and 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.600 those old raws and how they are not small? 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.520 I mean they can get like a three four thousand 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:33.159 seat you know, little arena and packet. I mean, the 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:37.080 pay per views are sellar for AW from what I've seen, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.320 they are drawing in droves. They're doing great, but it's 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:44.639 these TV tapings and again I don't know the placement 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.679 of the card and who goes on when, but I 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:49.800 just know, like I saw. I don't want to name 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.760 names because I don't want embarrass anyone, but I saw 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:56.320 some people coming down the ramp and the camera panned 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.640 over to the one side and there was no one 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.600 in the crowd. And I'm telling you this went up. 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:05.040 It was one of those big azarinas and no one 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:05.520 was there. 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:06.800 That's horrible. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.680 It was terrible. And this was last week. I saw 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.520 it and I was like, oh shit, not again. So 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.600 I feel like, maybe TV tapings, you know, go for 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.280 a smaller building and save some money. I know they 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.679 got money coming out their ass. I get it, but like, 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:25.160 save some money and do the smaller TV taping buildings 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.639 and then the pay per views. Because the pay per 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.119 view I could I didn't even see like an empty seat. 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.440 It was and I was thrilled for them. I was like, yes, 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:38.680 this is what it needs to be. But you know, 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:44.680 I just there's something missing and what is it? Why 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:45.880 aren't people watching? 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:47.840