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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone is between of the stream crem scene and

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Speaker 1: on the iHeart Radio network or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: As always, I am joined by the Chadster. What up?

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Speaker 1: Feel tired as hell?

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm exhausted, but I am I'm trying to bring

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Speaker 2: the energy back. I'm tired as bad as tired is

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Speaker 2: gonna get. But I'm trying to bring the energy up

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Speaker 2: to the Chadster level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm tired today too. I'm not supposed to have

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Speaker 1: caffeine anymore because of the seaboat, but today I cheated

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Speaker 1: and I went with cafine because I was dragging a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know. I had a very weird dream.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it really quickly, because you know,

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Speaker 1: usually I don't remember my dreams. This one was so vivid.

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Speaker 1: It woke me up, and it woke me up for

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Speaker 1: the day and I was freaked out. So I had

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Speaker 1: this dream that I was at this convention but it sucked,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, one of those conventions

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Speaker 1: where there's like a million vendor tables, and for some

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Speaker 1: reason during the convention, I decided this sucks. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go take a shower, and I ended up walking through

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Speaker 1: the convention into I think it was a relative's house.

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Speaker 1: This is so bizarre. And I go and I take

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Speaker 1: a shower in the house and no one's home, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I'm gonna take my shower.

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Speaker 1: Then I have to proceed back to my table in

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Speaker 1: order to continue to on my merchandise. But I get

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Speaker 1: out of the shower and I'm in a towel and

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Speaker 1: I'm walking in my towel and it's pitch blackness and

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Speaker 1: I can't see a thing, and I'm like, I can't

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Speaker 1: find the lights, and I'm like, how the hell am

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Speaker 1: I going to find my table? And I'm in a towel,

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Speaker 1: and then someone starts rubbing me and rubbing my skin

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Speaker 1: in the dark, and I'm going, who's that? Who's that?

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Speaker 1: Who are you? Where am I? And I woke up,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is that the most bizarre?

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Speaker 3: That a super bizarre.

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Speaker 2: When did Francy never have a blackout?

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Speaker 1: I was in a room that had no lights, in

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Speaker 1: a towel, trying to get back to my table to sign,

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Speaker 1: and then I woke up thinking, oh my god, is

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Speaker 1: this man gonna it was in a man Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna attack me? Who is the person? Who is the

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Speaker 1: mystery person in my dream?

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Speaker 3: I don't know a storyline.

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Speaker 1: They caressed my arm and then my leg and my

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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that freaks me out. Man.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is so weird.

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Speaker 2: Not only was the convention slow, but now we have

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Speaker 2: a predator that's lurking around at this convention. You decided

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Speaker 2: to take a shower at that your relatives was conveniently

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Speaker 2: located right inside of or right next.

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Speaker 1: To the convention center.

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Speaker 3: Such a freaking weird dream. I wake up from.

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Speaker 1: These dreams and they feel like they really happened, like

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Speaker 1: it's real life, and then I'm freaked out all day.

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Speaker 1: I was like what triggered this? I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: it was bizarro world and I don't know who it was.

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Speaker 1: The lights never came on. I just opened my eyes

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, thank god, that was a dream.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're a relative of Franccene and you'd like

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Speaker 2: to book her for a convention, it's that ECW Dva

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Speaker 2: Franccene on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You're connected to a big convention center and let me

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Speaker 1: know we can work something else. Why would I leave

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Speaker 2: Well, that that joke kind of writes itself if you

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Speaker 2: want to talk about certain fans.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not going to go.

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Speaker 2: That's low hanging fruit and it's way too early in

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Speaker 2: the show to start going there.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I was schemed out because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: who's rubbing me? And then I was freaked out because

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, what is happening. I just thought

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Speaker 1: It's a very weird, very bizarre and very I'm baffled.

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Speaker 1: It's baffling to me because I don't know where it came,

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Speaker 1: where it's stemmed from. So I know I have anxiety

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Speaker 1: about you'll hear this after the fact, but I have

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Speaker 1: anxiety about getting to West Virginia this weekend coming up

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Speaker 1: and we'll go into a recap like when it's over.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm sure it's lovely. I'm sure I had a

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Speaker 1: great time and the show was fantastic, But it's Sandman

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Speaker 1: and I and we only have like a forty two

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Speaker 1: vicinity when we got off the plane, we're screwed. And

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Speaker 1: you know, he's old and he can't run, and so

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Speaker 1: which they're gonna be like, lady, no way, we gotta go.

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Speaker 1: And so I have really been anxiety about these flights

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Speaker 1: coming up, and you think it would be easier to

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Speaker 1: get to a place like West Virginia, but it is

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Speaker 1: a royal pain in the tukist like it's the worst

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Speaker 3: That part of West Virginia pain in the neck again.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm not I'm not going to visit, you guys,

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Speaker 2: way too far now the other side, closer to where

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Speaker 2: I am. It is right over the Virginia line, like

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Speaker 2: where Winch Remember you were in Winchester, remember that about

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Speaker 2: a year and a half ago written and I.

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Speaker 1: Drove eighty seven thousand hours. I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Well Winchester Virginia where you did an appearance probably maybe

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Speaker 2: two years ago. At this point, it's like right over

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Speaker 2: where I am. But then where you are is like

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Speaker 2: that's on the Kentucky border, so that's while you're doing it.

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Speaker 1: I found out I'm going. I called Moose and I

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, can I just ask you, like what

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Speaker 1: is happening with this schedule? And he's such a doll.

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Speaker 1: He just sent me everything. He goes, listen, when we

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Speaker 1: get off this phone call, I will send you everything

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Speaker 1: you need to know. When he did, he sent me

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Speaker 1: a full itinerary. And that's another thing. I think. I

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Speaker 1: have to like be dressed. I only have an hour

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Speaker 1: and then we have to like get ready really quick

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Speaker 1: and jump in the purse. I was like, I'm probably

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Speaker 1: gonna have to get ready at home and just be

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Speaker 1: Like I need to be ready so I might have

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Speaker 1: to wear like a funky outfit on the plane and

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Speaker 2: If if you run through the Charlotte Airport with Sam

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Speaker 2: man yelling hold the plane, please turn your camera around

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Speaker 2: and start filming it.

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Speaker 3: No, all the plane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's got a bad hip, bad knees, like

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Speaker 1: he's a mess. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't

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Speaker 1: need a wheelchair, you know, just for me to get

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Speaker 1: him from A to b like wherever we I please,

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Speaker 1: just the airplane, Gods, just let it be the terminal

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Speaker 1: next to us. That would be like ideal, and then

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Speaker 1: we could just relax. I don't want to miss the

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Speaker 3: And I don't want that.

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Speaker 1: I'm stressed. But anyway, I'm sure it's lovely and we

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Speaker 1: had a great time and we'll talk about it, but

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Speaker 2: I do have some questions that I've been saving in

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Speaker 2: my database from submissions. If you'd like to dig into

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Speaker 2: those for the rest of this lovely holiday that we're

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I will try, and you know, my memories

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Speaker 1: like shop, but I will try to answer them as

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Speaker 1: best I can and as strictly as I can, because

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Speaker 1: I'm an open bookcare on ies up here.

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Speaker 2: As that these questions kind of stretch across different planes,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're they're they're pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say so.

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Speaker 2: Your memory will go to the test, but your memory

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Speaker 3: Have to think a little bit. You know, You're You're

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Speaker 3: gonna be a little introspective here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sometimes something triggers me and I can remember, So

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Speaker 1: maybe these will be good. So I'll do my best.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: First question is from Matt a little Bett.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, in which.

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Speaker 2: Directions does franc And see the wrestling industry needing to

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Speaker 2: go in order to flourish and grow the fan base

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Speaker 2: both nationwide and internationally.

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Speaker 1: Like back to where it was when wrestling was super hot.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'd assume.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like the problem that I think professional

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Speaker 1: or to you know, their fandom as they once were.

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Speaker 1: I went through a time where all I could think

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Speaker 1: And if you compare the numbers these days to the

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Speaker 1: you have to move on and times change. I understand that,

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Speaker 1: Millions and millions of people were watching wrestling, and now

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Speaker 1: in a week some companies can't even break the million

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Speaker 1: and no one can seem to pinpoint it. Now, WWE

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they remember when they watch wrestling. They don't watch wrestling,

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Speaker 2: or they channel serving they go, oh, look there's wrestling.

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Speaker 1: Or they watch the old stuff.

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Speaker 3: Oh tell me.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Barely Legal ninety eight right now. I just

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Speaker 3: Popper, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: No, what are we missing? What is? You know, what

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Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, waiting for that well, the boom.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, do you think that other fans have driven

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Speaker 1: No, because I feel like these wrestling fans like to fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but I feel like today's fan

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Speaker 3: I don't know. If I'm just throwing a throwing out of.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine them running like the Manhattan Center and

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Speaker 1: I feel like, maybe TV tapings, you know, go for

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there needs to be a reboot of VCW.

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Speaker 1: Let's try another, a third attempt at this company and

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Speaker 3: Baby sure all right, Mike m from Philly.

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Speaker 2: For the women in today's wrestling product, how would Francine

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Speaker 1: Who? So we? Nick and I were talking about this,

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Speaker 1: Like if you're doing promos, especially I know, WW, you

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00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: can't tell them what to do. You will get in

436
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: trouble anywhere else. If you can just ask for some

437
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: bullet points and ten minutes to go over a scenario

438
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: in your head, it'll be the best promo that you do.

439
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: Because the scripted ones I just don't enjoy, never did,

440
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: never will. And I like to make stuff up on

441
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: the fly. Okay, that's always fun too, And that was

442
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: a thing about cameo that I enjoyed because I would

443
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: never like I would just open my thing and they

444
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: and I would just go and it was an acting

445
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: class for me, Like I would just make up it

446
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: would whether it be dumb or cool or whatever. Practice

447
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: in front of the mirror, you know, put your practice,

448
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: put yourself over, your character over and I don't know,

449
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: just like I just feel like if it's scripted, it's

450
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: just you look like a mechanical robot. And I just

451
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: I you can tell back in the day when somebody

452
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: was reading off a prompter or a monitor and to

453
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: me it was just like, oh, that didn't go off well.

454
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: But then you see the people who are just like

455
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: moving around and they're relaxed, and they're having a good

456
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: time and they're just speaking from the heart. And those

457
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: are the best promos out there.

458
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: The best and any What about when you can pull

459
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: in anything from like not like from like your own

460
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 2: personal experience, Like you're like, if it's a real shoot,

461
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: like do you think that that enhance that enhances anything?

462
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: Or do you think that that cut you have to

463
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: you have to like let them in a little bit

464
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: more like or do you think a shoot brings down

465
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: a promo?

466
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: So one of the best promos ever was you know,

467
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Shane throwing down the NWA belt and he channels his father. Yes,

468
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: that was a shoot that was from the heart, that

469
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: was real, and everybody puts that promo over to this day,

470
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, it doesn't have to

471
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent you in real life. But if

472
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 1: you can take little bits and pieces and make it

473
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: your own and incorporate it into your character. I mean,

474
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody can do that, but if you can,

475
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a bonus. And unless you have like

476
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: a goofy as you know, gimmick, you know you don't

477
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: want to do something like that because then that's not

478
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: going to work. But you know, most of the people

479
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: these days are coming out as themselves. There's not many

480
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: gimmicks out there anymore, you know what I mean. Somebody

481
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: might have a cool catchphrase or something, but you don't

482
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: see too many garbage men or clowns or that kind

483
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: of thing. And I'm not knocking it. Everybody has a

484
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: place in this business, but for the most part, people

485
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: are themselves and people are using their real names. And

486
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, it could i mean, channeling something from your past, especially,

487
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: you got to think is it relevant to the story

488
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: that you're trying to tell. And if that's a yes,

489
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: go ahead and use.

490
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: It right because some shoots could go over people's heads

491
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: and they might not know what the hell you're talking about.

492
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: But if you can make it relevant, then it works.

493
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: You might have to explain yourself a little bit, but

494
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: there's always a backstory, and you know, people are intrigued

495
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: by that. And I like it when it's a little

496
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: bit shoot, a little genuine. I find it captivating.

497
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a shoot. That question was a shoot.

498
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: That's a shoot.

499
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: Brother, all right, how about this question? John asked from Bayshore.

500
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: These are via email too, So I'm going back and

501
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: forth between two screens. Did you and Joey Styles rehearse

502
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: your interactions on TV?

503
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: He always had the best reactions to you in ring.

504
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: And we've never rehearsed. I sometimes, I you know, might say, uh,

505
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to think of it. Might have been

506
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: heat Wave ninety eight where I give him THEO. I

507
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: don't know what that's called the motor boat boat? Is

508
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: that what? That's good? Yeah?

509
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: I guess.

510
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: I think he knew that ahead of time, Like I

511
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: think we told him I was going to do that,

512
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: And I think he was worried about his wife because

513
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: she didn't like stuff like that. I don't think she

514
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: liked when I like kissed him on the cheek. But

515
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: we never rehearsed for the most part, Like ninety percent

516
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: of the time, I would just try and either pop

517
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: him or embarrass him, you know. And I I remember

518
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: one promo there was I dropped Shane and I opened

519
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: the show and I dropped maybe, oh, Joey dropped something

520
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: and he looked up my dress and then I grab

521
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: him and I pick him up and I'm mad at him,

522
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: and then I give him a kiss him the cheek

523
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't care, because you know, my

524
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: character was like that, like stuff like that. Yes, we knew,

525
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: but little things if I would walk by him in

526
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: the ring or like grab him or do something. I

527
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: never told him I was doing any that just to

528
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: pop them, and he'd give me that look like, oh,

529
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna get me in trouble, like because the crowd

530
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: ate that stuff up. They liked it, so why not?

531
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: And he was genuine you could tell Joey was.

532
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: Joey and I were very good friends, and we had

533
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: such a good rapport with each other. And I always

534
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: would tell him on commentary, you can say whatever you

535
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: want and I will never ever get mad at you.

536
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: I told him you have full liberties like go at me,

537
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: and he would be like, are you sure, I'm like

538
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: honey and all right, so and then he let me

539
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: have it sometimes and I was fine with it, you

540
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: know so, and sometimes he would apologize. I'm like, no need,

541
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: it was great, come on.

542
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: Never anything that you fell across the line at.

543
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: All, No, no, never nothing. The only thing I didn't

544
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: like that was said was when Paul Hayman told sinister

545
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: Minister to say eat a sandwich, because that's when I

546
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: was having trouble with the sheets and my weight, okay,

547
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: And that made me cry. That hit home to me,

548
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm so self conscious about

549
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: my weight and how I look and then you had

550
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: to throw that in there, like that pissed me off,

551
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: and that hurt my feelings. Other than that, nothing ever

552
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: bothered me.

553
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: Your your response would have been, why don't you do

554
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: some fake coke on another well pay review twenty five

555
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: years and get him kicked off their television?

556
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: That was relevant.

557
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's messed up, see that Like that's yeah, that's

558
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: that's something that even if that's a given line, that's

559
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: one that crosses the line. Even then that's shock value

560
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: for the sake of shock value, and that's hurtful.

561
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Literally went to Paul crying and asked him to take

562
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: it off and he wouldn't. That pissed me off.

563
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't blame you, and that one sucks.

564
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but otherwise can't complain, right.

565
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: All right? Phil P via email? What do you fill up?

566
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: Fill up? Phil? Phil pvia email?

567
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: What do you think would have happened if Al Snow

568
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: had stayed in ec W?

569
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: I think it would have just continued, uh, the way

570
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: it was going, because head was so over at this point,

571
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: and we would have had to get more heads. We

572
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: would order like a thousand heads and distribute them, so

573
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: the bigger the venues, we would have to order more heads.

574
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: But his character man was so over when you know,

575
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: Paul reinvented him, and I just feel like he would

576
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: have just continued, you know, because he I mean, he's

577
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: an established worker. The problem with Al was his character development,

578
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's something that Paul just reinvented him,

579
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: and it just took off like a rocket ship, and

580
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: it was awesome and everybody knew Al could work, but

581
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: then diving into this new character, it showed a different

582
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: side of Al that maybe you had never seen before

583
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: as a character, and it was just amazing, you know,

584
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: and he was so great to work with, So I

585
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: just feel like he probably would have continued, probably would

586
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: have had the belt for a while, and you know,

587
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: and Head would have reigned supreme. Head probably would have

588
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: got Manager of the year, you know, beat me out.

589
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: But that's okay.

590
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: That would have been a great angle.

591
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm on ahead because she won and I didn't.

592
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you have turned him heel at any point

593
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: and made that character like a crazy heel where he's

594
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: literally losing his mind but on the heel side.

595
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: Well, he yeah, I mean he was losing his mind.

596
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: You know, he was crazy talking to this manufactured you know,

597
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: mannequin head. So it doesn't get more out there than that.

598
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: But as a heel, right now, you're more diabolical.

599
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the fans even as a heel, because I

600
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: feel like they loved Heads so much. I don't know

601
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: if he would have made the full train, he probably

602
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: would have been like a tweener.

603
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you're.

604
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Sucking limbo and like you're trying to get that other half,

605
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: but they just love you too much to hate you,

606
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's just the way I see it.

607
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: I don't know.

608
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the WWF tried to turn him heel around

609
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: two thousand.

610
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: It did not work, That's what I'm saying. It was like,

611
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it was late ninety nine.

612
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: He was with Foley and they were trying to turn

613
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: him heel against the rock.

614
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: It just did not work.

615
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: They took away the music, they made him a little

616
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: more sinister, and just by the time I think, you know,

617
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: Spring came around.

618
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: That's what he was doing the.

619
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: Head cheese with Steve black and I completely made.

620
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I had such a crush on Steve Blackman. I loved

621
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: that man. Where is he now?

622
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: I remember you so I've kept that in the back

623
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: of my mother. I remember you saying that. I swear

624
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: I have an email for Steve Blackman, and I'm almost

625
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: I want to get him on the show.

626
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I haven't heard his name in like forever.

627
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: He does he does conventions. He I think I believe

628
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: he has a bail bond's business.

629
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Oh well, he was like a monster. He was like

630
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: one of those guys that was just huge, Like he

631
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: looked like he can kill somebody. He probably could, but

632
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: there was just something about him, like like that whole roster.

633
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: I was drawn to him and I was like, man,

634
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: he's so handsome, Like I don't know what it was, ladies,

635
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: any ladies feel the same, I don't know. It's just

636
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: a good looking guy, man marble man like burly, like

637
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: he could put on a cowboy hat, ride of horse

638
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: rescue and damsel in distress. That's what he looked for,

639
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: like he now like in this day and age, he

640
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: looked he looked like an m M. A fighter.

641
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: Well, that's what he was going for.

642
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: That's I mean, he just.

643
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: He was in He was the MMA guys while they

644
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: were like not cool yet. How he was like that guy.

645
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a big fantasy.

646
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: But with Al Snow he was head cheese.

647
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 1: You gotta go with the flow.

648
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: They brought the personality out of him though, you know,

649
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: they brought the little comedic side house.

650
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you cheese. Yeah, all right, this one is from

651
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: beaver Dan. Beaver Dan.

652
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: Is he from Beaver County in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

653
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 3: Possibly? I think you go a lot of roots with

654
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: the name Beaver That's true. Okay, I'm okay, I'll I'll go.

655
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: I'll just go to the question.

656
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: All right, does Francy and Field female wrestlers on only

657
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: fans or similar sites help the industry, or is that

658
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: something which in the long term hurts their professional growth

659
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: inside the industry.

660
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: OnlyFans is the norm these days for like ninety percent

661
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: of females in this world, not even in wrestling, Like

662
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: everybody has an OnlyFans page. I don't think it hurts

663
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: it's it's supplementing income. You know, sexuality is part of wrestling.

664
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: You choose your boundaries and what you feel you can do,

665
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: what's comfortable, what you can live with every day, and

666
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: you make your money from it. And that's that some

667
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: girls are willing to do more than others. I don't

668
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: knock them for it. It's again a way to make

669
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: a living, so I don't I don't feel like it

670
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: hurts them. I feel like the male or some female

671
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: fans too. I just feel like, you know, they'll follow

672
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: them wherever they go or whatever they're doing to make

673
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: a buck. So if it's only fans, if it's you know,

674
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: doing conventions, if it's a twitch stream, if it whatever

675
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: it is, there are so many options these days to

676
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: make extra income. I don't feel it hurts anyone. I

677
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: feel like it's the norm now and it's just up

678
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: to the individual on how far they want to take it.

679
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: And if they are comfortable doing certain things for money.

680
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: They do a lot of stuff for money.

681
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's them, you know. And and it's okay. If

682
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: you can lay your head on your pillow every night

683
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: and say I'm good with what I did, then by

684
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: all means, make your money. You know, I'm not knocking

685
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: you do what you want.

686
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: No, And you see, even like outside of wrestling, I mean,

687
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: there are some a list celebrities and recording artists that

688
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: have OnlyFans, and not only do they use it to

689
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: put out picture content, they release music or girls streaming

690
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: content that they have, they'll put it out there and

691
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: they make millions. I mean, and it's like, wow, geez,

692
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: I guess that's your way of reaching your fan base

693
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: now it is.

694
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: Believe me, I would love to make millions on only fans.

695
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really love to, but I just don't. I

696
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: maybe it's my age. I you know, I don't see

697
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: myself doing that that platform. It's not something I want

698
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: to do at this stage in the game. But if

699
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: you're young and look good and you're a okay with it,

700
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: and I mean, who cares, get your money? Get it

701
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: while you can there's one day it's not gonna happen. Yeah,

702
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: he's all the filters in the world. But if you're

703
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: sixty four and you're still trying to do your only fans,

704
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: it's like.

705
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: Oh, well, there is a fan.

706
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: Base for well, yes there is, there.

707
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: Is, There is a fan base for.

708
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: That, and and fine, I'm not gonna knock that either.

709
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, I know what I'm supposed

710
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: to be doing at this stage in the game, and

711
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: it's not only fans, so you know, but you do

712
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: you Bill.

713
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine being a fan again growing up

714
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: in the nineties, two thousands, early two thousands and having

715
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: that accessibility to talent like that that.

716
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: I grew up, you know, watching on to now.

717
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: Granted, okay, sidebar, we knew of the people that were

718
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 2: in magazines at the time, and there.

719
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: Were pictures online that you could go find. But this

720
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: is different.

721
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: This is you have direct connect to the person, and

722
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: some of them you can send a request to and

723
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: a day later you got it in your inbox.

724
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing because the industry is, the entertainment industry

725
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: in general, was so untouchable when I was a kid.

726
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: You can write a fan letter, but don't expect one back.

727
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: And nine times out of ten, if you got one back,

728
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: it was from the publicist and maybe a rubber stamp

729
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: signature or so. It's something like that back then, you

730
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Nowadays, you can talk to anyone.

731
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: You can slide in DMS. You'd be talking with an

732
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: Oscar winner or a Grammy Award winning art. I mean,

733
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: you could talk to anybody. It is so easy to

734
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: get in touch with these people. But I just remember,

735
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: like back in I remember back in the day, I

736
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: was such a huge fan of Villanova basketball and it

737
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: was it was when they beat Georgetown and won everything.

738
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: They were the champs for that year. Like, I was

739
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: such a fan and there was one particular player that

740
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: I loved and I wrote him two letters. I think

741
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I was in eighth grade, like I was young, but

742
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: I wrote him and he wrote me back twice and

743
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: sent me pictures twice. And I thought that and then

744
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: my mom was like, no, you need to stop because

745
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: this man's in college caroling in high school, Like you

746
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: need to stop. And I didn't write anything like dirty.

747
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I admire you as

748
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: a player. I'm such a fan, you're so good at

749
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: what you do, like gushing like a little teenage crush,

750
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: you know. But he was so sweet and genuine and

751
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: I can tell it was his penmanship. And he wrote

752
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: me back and he sent me the autograph pictures, and

753
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: I was just over the moon with that. I was like,

754
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: I love this guy. And then I watched him and

755
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I got a letter from him. It

756
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: was so awesome, you know what I mean. That's the

757
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: closest I've ever come to fandom, Like, that's the only

758
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: time I can ever remember reaching out to a celebrity. Well,

759
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: and not like he was like this huge celebrity, but

760
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was on the Cinderella Villanova

761
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: basketball team. And you don't remember who it was, Harold Jensen.

762
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah I didn't hear it.

763
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I might have not said his name, Harold Jensen.

764
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: I believe it was number thirty two.

765
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: Harold Jensen. Yeah, writing the hymn down So I want

766
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: to look him up.

767
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he was Uh he might have played either

768
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: guard or forward. I can't remember that. This is going back,

769
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: but they won it all that year and my dad

770
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: even took me to a game. We went and we watched.

771
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I didn't get to meet him in person, but that

772
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: was my only fan letter I think I ever wrote

773
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: to somebody, because I just I wanted a picture and

774
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: I just loved him so much, and he was so

775
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: nice and but again, he wasn't an Emmy Award winner

776
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: or you know, like an untouchable person in the entertainment field,

777
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: but he took the time to get back to me,

778
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: and I always remember that. I thought that was so sweet.

779
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: I wrote a letter to one Vincent Kennedy McMahon when

780
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: I was in middle school, and I got a response

781
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: back from his office, Oh, from his secretary, thanking me

782
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: for the letter. Oh, and they didn't send me anything

783
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: outside of the letter and just thanking me for contacting

784
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: me to thanking me for contacting mister McMahon.

785
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: And he appreciated the letter. I gotta find it.

786
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: The only problem is if we were going to give

787
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: the chance to shoot name, which were not, they just they.

788
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: Addressed it to the wrong name.

789
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: So I have this great letter that's too.

790
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: Me, But it's not me, it's was.

791
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: It was it signed by Vince McMahon.

792
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: No, it's it's an auto pen. Vince McMahon signature. It's

793
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 2: still great. I still have it. I mean it's because

794
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: it's on the old school WWF letterhead.

795
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

796
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: So when I actually in this past weekend, I found

797
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: all the business cards all the people that I met

798
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: with when I was originally interviewing there. But I wish

799
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: the letters in another box. But yeah, I wrote a

800
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: letter to Vince McMahon. I got an answer back from

801
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: his that's perfect, wonderful.

802
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go there either.

803
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: Oh God, do we have time for one more? Yeah?

804
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: John W from we go back to the email John W.

805
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: From Syracuse.

806
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: He asked, who were some of your favorite backstage workers?

807
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: And he's, oh, my god, I've been asked that a

808
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: million times, and just talent.

809
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: Wise, behind the scenes workers, behind the.

810
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Scenes, I mean our cameraman, Ron and Charlie were the best.

811
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: I love them to death. I just talked to Ron,

812
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: I think for the first time since DCW folded in

813
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. I just spoke to him a

814
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, for like the first time. But

815
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: they were great, and teas were really nice too. We

816
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: had a married couple that worked with us, and they

817
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: were always so sweet. Who else like Damien, God rest

818
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: his soul. He was so good to Shane and I

819
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: and drove us everywhere and handled that. He was like

820
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: in charge of our merch. I don't know. There was

821
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: a Trish, There was Mo. They they would like drive

822
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: people around. Trish helped out in the back whatever we needed.

823
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: Trish was there. Doctor Mark Allen, who I just saw

824
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: at uh Wrussell con and he sat with me for

825
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: about a half hour and we conversed. And he's a doll.

826
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: He was a pediatrist, but he was our doctor and

827
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: would uh would help us if we needed. He took

828
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: me to the hospital. He wrote with me in the

829
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: emergency the emergency vehicle when I broke my pelvis. Like,

830
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: we had good people. We had a lot of good

831
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: people on staff that were, you know, willing to do whatever.

832
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, Rob Finstein and his crew. I've known Rob

833
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: now forever and still friends with Rob and still work

834
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: with Rob to this day. And you know, he was

835
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: he was a big part of ECW talent wise for

836
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: a minute as seven eleven, but so much with the

837
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: the camera shooting, you know, fan cam footage for us

838
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So we had a lot of

839
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes that were cool. I know I'm

840
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: missing oh Atlas. I just saw Ronnie for the first

841
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: time also at Russell Con and he looks exactly the same.

842
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: But you know, we we had such a great crew

843
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: with Atlas that would always protect us. And I don't

844
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: know so many people, so many great people.

845
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: We always hear about, you know, folks from the ECW family.

846
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: You know, maybe somebody's girlfriend or somebody working like the

847
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: merchandise Dand was that like a night of decision or

848
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: if they were missing somebody, or was that just like

849
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: a given if you brought someone of the show, they

850
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: might be working a ticket taker or merchandise.

851
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Or well, like I said, Damien was like our main

852
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: merch guy. But then Bella forgot Bella she's a sweetheart.

853
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: She would help with the merchandise too, and she came

854
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: to a lot of the shows. But I guess, like

855
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: we were on the road and were flying to events,

856
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: I guess we just had to go with people that

857
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: were there and we can trust, because I don't know

858
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: if we flew. I don't think we flew certain people,

859
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: like if they were in the area, they would be

860
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: the ones doing the job, you know what I mean.

861
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: So so I don't think it was like, well, you're

862
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: our main merch person, You're gonna fly every everywhere we go.

863
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't think that was the case.

864
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember how often people came,

865
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: but I do remember like Tommy saying, well, we need

866
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: this done tonight, can you help out to certain people

867
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Speaker 1: or whatever? And again it was more like a mom

868
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: and pop. Well it's I mean, you know, we were

869
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: a professional company, but we didn't have the income to

870
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: be consistent with certain roles, you know, because it costs money.

871
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: It's another hotel room, it's another flight, it's another mouth

872
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: to feed. It's we you know, got to feed your

873
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: workers that are there. Take care of the core staff,

874
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: you know. Right, all right, good group of people. I

875
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: miss them all. I love them, very good.

876
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 3: Good way to end it. Solid nice.

877
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Speaker 1: Oh well those were good questions. Appreciate them again. If

878
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: you want to send in any questions. What is the

879
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: email that you would.

880
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 2: Use all podcast questions at gmail dot com. Very very

881
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: easy for me to compile them, so please send them there.

882
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: It's in my Twitter bio if you want to drop them.

883
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 2: I get them every so often. Where people just send

884
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 2: them to me. We should publicize that a lot more

885
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: and we can get a ton more questions. But I've

886
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: been compiling these for quite a while. Just send them there,

887
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: all podcast questions at gmail dot com.

888
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: I enjoy answering these fan questions, and you know, and

889
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: like I said, some of them are a little redundant,

890
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: but you might have missed an answer, So I'll just

891
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: keep answering them. It's fine with me. I don't mind.

892
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: It's fine with me too, because the more questions she answers,

893
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: the more we get to find out.

894
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I'm an open book for the

895
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: most part. I will share information and unless it's in

896
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: the vult If it's in the vault, it's there until

897
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: I die. There's no way I'm sharing that and believing

898
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: there's stuff in the vault.

899
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: Unless you have a dream about it where you're walking

900
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: through a convention.

901
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: And that wasn't true at all. I don't know where

902
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: that came from, so that's beyond my comprehension at this point.

903
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: Did you ever come out in a blackout?

904
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: Were you ever given a blackout entrance at all where

905
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: you had to appear in the ring?

906
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 3: Honest question? The cha Virginia.

907
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: No, I know, I was in the ring several times

908
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: when they shut the turned off the lights and I

909
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: was already in the ring, but I don't I might

910
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: have been under the ring once, I can't remember, and

911
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: then I had to pop out for something. I don't know.

912
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: If you guys know, you know, there's some people who

913
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: know my career better than I do. But several times

914
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: the lights would go out and I'd be in there

915
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: and it's scared because it's like, okay, where are you

916
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: hear memlr?

917
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the fan decibel level goes up like

918
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: twentyfold because they go nuts when the lights go out,

919
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: because yeah, it's gonna happen.

920
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: The difference these days is everybody will whip out their

921
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: cell phones internal and their their lights the flashlight, but

922
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: back then, we didn't have that, you know what I mean, Like,

923
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: we didn't have that back in the day. So it

924
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: was dark, like really dark. Nowadays when they try and

925
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: do these lights out, things you can see like certain

926
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: people removing and stuff's going on. But back in the day,

927
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: it was like total darkness. So I remember literally feeling

928
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: the ropes like to get around, like Okay, I got

929
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: to be in the corner for this or I got

930
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: to get out of the way because this one's running

931
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: in and it was scary.

932
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: It's a scary thing, I'm sure it is.

933
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to be hit with something you're

934
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: not suppose to be hit with, So no, that.

935
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Sucks when Sabo's got to get in there, go Yeah, I.

936
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: Just cower in the corner. I'm like, I don't want

937
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: to get hit by that. Where's the chair flying from?

938
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: Exactly?

939
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.

940
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: Well that's all we got for this week.

941
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that was a good one again. Thank you

942
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: to all who sent questions in. We'll probably do this

943
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe once a month.

944
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: If we can absolutely keep them coming in, we'll do

945
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: all right.

946
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: Well, where can people find you?

947
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: Slow burn until November? The summertime is a slow slow

948
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: time right now. I'm just loving life, working working hard

949
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: on eyes up here.

950
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: That's it, okay, just going to enjoy the summer with

951
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: the kids, right.

952
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

953
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, just follow me at chat E and B

954
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: on X and keep your eyes on eyes up here

955
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 2: here on iHeartRadio wherever you get. You get your podcast

956
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: on YouTube, TikTok at.

957
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: What is it?

958
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: Let me let me pull it up because I always

959
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: forget it. But you got you gotta get with this

960
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: on TikTok. If you haven't yet, you were going to

961
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: be missing out on quite the tiktoking experience.

962
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: You like that. I made that one up to the

963
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: Tiktoking talking.

964
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: I have a show coming off. It's myself, Shane Douglas Sandman,

965
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: and I believe Phonsie is on it as well. I'm

966
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: trying to find it. It is in Indiana, and I

967
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of of course I can't find the graphic for it.

968
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: It's on I believe, what is it June twenty ninth.

969
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Where the hell's the graphic? Good Lord fifty bash at

970
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Beckley Posters here, and I can't find the one I'm

971
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: looking for. Do you know what I'm talking about?

972
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't absolutely know.

973
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: So it's it's for Scott Hewlett and the Heat at

974
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: Shenanigan's podcast. Here it is. I found it, thank god.

975
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: It's called Every Child Wins. It's Saturday, June twenty ninth,

976
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: and it is at Tippy Canoe County Fairgrounds in Lafayette, Indiana.

977
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: It's a benefits show for the Muscular Dystrophee Association. So yeah,

978
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: it's me Sandman Shane and I think Phonsie was at it.

979
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: I want to say he was, And we're doing a

980
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: meet and greet during the day and then who knows,

981
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: we might be appearing on the show somewhere at night.

982
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: And Shane and I are also doing a seminar that

983
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: Saturday on June twenty ninth in Lafayette as well, So

984
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: if you're interested, you can DM Scott qwleid on X

985
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: or you can call him at seven sixty five four

986
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: two one three four seven to two and there's only

987
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: thirty spots available and I'm not sure or how many

988
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: spots are left, So if you're available for that seminar,

989
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: it's the first one that Chane and I are doing

990
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: together and it's very informative. I think it's fifty dollars

991
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: per person.

992
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing that now. That's fantastic. Take advantage of that,

993
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: my god.

994
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's before the show that afternoon. We're going

995
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: to do that. And you know, if you're not subscribed

996
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: to our YouTube channel, please go over to ECWDVA Francine

997
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: and hit the subscribe button and if you want to

998
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: be a channel member, it's only five ninety nine. I

999
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: hope you're staying safe, I hope you're staying healthy, and

1000
00:56:38,640 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: most of all, I hope you're staying extreme. There were