1 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Chris every with you on a week fourteen 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: edition of Chargers Weekly here on the New Chargers Podcast Network. 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll get this week's opposing view from Jacksonville, 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: courtesy of Jackbeat writer John Reid of the Florida Times Union. 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Also a bit later, our Beat Writer's round Table featuring 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Jeff Miller of the La Times, Jason Hirschhorn of Sports Illustrated, 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: and Daniel Popper of The Athletic. But first Chargers radio 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: analyst Daniel Jeremiah. All right here with Daniel Jeremiah and 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: DJ Going into week fourteen, four and eight wasn't the 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: record I think we were expecting from this team. The 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: tough thing is just the losses, everything seven points or fewer. 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy, I think. Is the point differential I believe 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: still like plus three. I want to say for the season. Yes, 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: four and eight with a plus three point differentialize that. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's ever been done before. I 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: don't know, because I looked at I looked at some 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: of the point differential of a team at the bottom 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: of the division. It's a lot different. Yeah three, no 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: kidding it. This team that finds itself themselves in every 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: single football game. That's what the Chargers have done. And 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: it's come down to kind of those critical moments, critical plays, 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: and it's been a variety of things. I mean I 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: I was actually on the phone with a buddy that's 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: a coach at at the University of North Carolina, and 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: I was telling about this how bizarre this Charger season is, 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: with you know, five just crazy losses, the way they've 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: taken place. And then he and I was talking to 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: the absolutely wrong person because he said, they have like 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: twelve games this year that have all have all come 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: down to like the final two minutes, like the first 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: time in college football since nineteen thirty eight or something 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: that they've been in. And I said, okay, so you're 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: the one person that I can't play. Yeah, I talk 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: to you, of course I bring it up with you, 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: but no, it's been you know, it's it's frustrating. I mean, 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: I guess is the word that you would use because 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: it's not a four and eight football team. But they 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: are what they are. That's the old Bill Parcels thing. 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Says you are what your record says you are. But man, 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't feel when you when you see him 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: tried out for the ups and you see him compete 42 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: in battle. It doesn't it doesn't look like a four 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: and eight team, but in the in those you know, 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: key moments in the football game, it just how many 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: we'll get it done. You look at the last five 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: years and obviously the Charges have been a lot of 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: these games for it. He just it hasn't gone their way. 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: But I looked to last year they were winning it, 49 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: did these games and let go hold on because I'm 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: glad you said that, because I want to I want 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: to remind people that, because I think the whole narrative 52 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: of it, it's the charge. It's kind of like what 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: do you say about Clemson back in the day. You 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: kind of find a way to find a way to 55 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: screw it up. And I'm like, well, hold on, last 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: year you win in London against Tennessee and a crazy 57 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: ending to that football game to come back, crazy wins 58 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh in Kansas City, Um, Seattle. Seattle was another one. 59 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: So I mean, you had all Francisco. There was a 60 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of them, a ton of them, and they all 61 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and on hindsight, maybe we should have been more aware 62 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: and realized that okay, law of averages. These things all 63 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: swung your way in eighteen you're down, you're bound to 64 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: have a couple of them go the other way. But man, 65 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's enough. We get the message, you know, 66 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: we do you twelve and four last year and the 67 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: losses at the beginning of you to the Chiefs and 68 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the Rams, and it's just seemed like every single closed 69 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: game they want. So it's funny to see, like, oh 70 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: the charges they've been doing this for, you know, since 71 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: coach Lynn has been here nine to seven, twelve and four, 72 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: obviously it hasn't gone their way. And I think it's 73 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: really just all three phases just have not been on 74 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: the same page. You go back to that Green Bay game. 75 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: I think that was the one game this year clicked. 76 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: Everything clicked right, And that's that shows you what the 77 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: potential is this football team. UM. And then you know, look, 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: you you have the injuries, they are what they are. UM. 79 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: That's what made that last week's game so perplexing is 80 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: to you know, have the offensive line to be about 81 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: as healthy as it's been in a long time, to 82 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: bring Derwin James back and he was impactful. Um. Whatever 83 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: the stats sheet says, ignore it because he was flying 84 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: around and was very disruptive right off the rip. He 85 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: was right right right away, and so he made his 86 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: impact felt. And you, you know, don't have you don't 87 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: have almost said, Derek Thomas, you don't have them. You 88 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: know why, am I I'm so tired. What's his name here? 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Give me this name, von Miller, Von Miller. Miller doesn't play. 90 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: We just did a thing on NFL Network where we 91 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: were talking about omissions from this top top one hundred 92 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: players thing, and I was really hammered that Derek Thomas. 93 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: I've got Derek Thomas all my brain right now. So anyway, yeah, 94 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: von Miller doesn't play. You get all these guys back, 95 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: you're starting a rookie quarterback and Drew Lock like, man, okay, 96 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: this is this is everything's pointing in your direction. And 97 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: then you get that wild ending. So and the deefense 98 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: it clamped down. But Drew Lock, I don't think he 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: was sacked. Was he sacked? No? No sacks? Yeah, yeah, 100 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: And they did a good job of moving him around 101 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. And you also give their offensive line. 102 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Really the last two or three weeks denver Offen, his 103 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: line had played better. So they continued that last week, 104 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: the last four weeks of the season, I think getting 105 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Dorwin back and Adrian Phillis Beck, guys that you know 106 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: we're going to be here and have an impact on 107 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: this team. You know, Drew Tranquil, who we're going to 108 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: talk about today, he had three tackles for law. So 109 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: trying to see the development of some of these guys 110 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: in their second third year as we get into twenty twenty, 111 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: it's still a really exciting nucleus, you know, going forward, 112 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: there is a lot of talent and I think, again 113 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: we talked about some bizarre numbers. How about Mike Williams 114 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: what he's done. Talked to you about back to back weeks, 115 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: phenomenal games, but hasn't hasn't found his way into the 116 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: end zone. That's one of the more bizarre statistics when 117 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: you look at his production. Okay, so he leads the 118 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: NFL in yards per catch I think twenty point nine 119 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: over the last four weeks. Let me just pull this 120 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: up because it's pretty remarkable, the fact that he doesn't 121 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: have a touchdown this year. He has catches over the 122 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: last four games, catches of fifty six, forty six, forty five, 123 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: twenty six fifty fifty two in thirty eight, and then 124 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: I have to go down Pro Football reverence. I get 125 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: to the twenty seventh ranked receiver to find a receiver 126 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: without a touchdown, and Mike Williams has all these splash 127 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: plays no touchdowns eleven total last year. DJ. Yeah, it's insane. 128 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: It's just one of those weird It's one of those 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: weird numbers. But I think in saying that, you've seen 130 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: the progression of him and how he continues to grow 131 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: and develop on just another example of you know, like 132 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned Drew Trankill, we've seen CHENNINGTWOSU flies around and 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: make some plays. These first, second, third, fourth year players 134 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: that are going to be your nucleus going forward. It's loaded. 135 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: It's a it's a loaded group. So I still think 136 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: as frustrating as this year is, the benefit is you're 137 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: going to get a rather high pick. You get a 138 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: chance to add to that young core, and hopefully next 139 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: year some of those balances will go the other way. 140 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: I was looking at Austin Eckler's numbers this year two 141 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: and you go back to twenty seventeen, I think twenty 142 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: seven running backs are drafted only from that class. Dalvin Cook, 143 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Aaron Jones have more total touchhouts at Eckler. 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: How about that? So to see what he has done. 145 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: And I know that Melvin wasn't here at the beginning 146 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: of the year, but even with Melvin there in fewer 147 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: touches too. The only is one hundred and seventy three 148 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: touches this year. How efficient he is when he has 149 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: the football in his hands is something that this team 150 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: can use moving forward. I've said it in the past. 151 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: You know, there's not ten running backs the NFL that 152 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: can do what Austin Eckler can do. And I would 153 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: adjust that and amend that and say maybe maybe not 154 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: even five. In the passing game, there's not five running 155 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: backs that can do everything he does. There's a route 156 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: runner and what he does after the catch, he's just 157 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: a weapon. So he's really one of the special playmakers 158 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: in the entire league that even with the numbers that 159 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: he's posting, the touchdown numbers from a national standpoint, you 160 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: don't hear his name often enough, And you know, I 161 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: would imagine he's somebody's going to be a part of 162 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: this core group going forward for a long time. This 163 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: Jags team's four and eight Gardner Minshew under center. What 164 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: did you think of Gardner coming out of college? And 165 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 1: I know that he was benched in favor of Foals. 166 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: You know he's back in the fold, but what he 167 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: did in the starts that he had at twenty nineteen, 168 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: well I went I went back to my college report 169 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: on Gardner Minshew and I use the exact phrase. We 170 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: talked about it once he was picked that he was 171 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield light. That's who I compared him to. So 172 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's somebody that brings energy. I'm big on that. 173 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I think we see that. You see it with a 174 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: guy like Derwin James, what he does for the Chargers 175 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: defense and bringing that energy. You get that with Minshew 176 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. He's one of 177 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: those guys almost makes coffee nervous. You know. He's so 178 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: energetic and you can live with some of the mistakes, 179 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: but they're always aggressive mistakes. He can extend plays. Arm 180 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: is good enough. Doesn't have a huge arm, but good enough. 181 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: And I was around him the entire week down there 182 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and he was like everybody's favorite guy. 183 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, people just flocked to him, he's dressed 184 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: in these wild clothes. I was in an elevator with 185 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: him at the Sedio Bowl time. But he just could 186 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: be nicer, you know. But he's a great dude. He's 187 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: just he's got this like, uh, this kind of energy 188 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: and aura around him that you kind of want to 189 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: be around the guy like that. Yeah, I'm scrolling through 190 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: my notes here as we're talking. I'm trying to find 191 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: uh as, I've got my pre draft notes on him here, 192 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: I'll find it is yet time man. Yeah, well I 193 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: just keep talking. Here we go. I found it. Here 194 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: we go. Gardner minshew. Uh So he was six zoo 195 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: seven over six feet, two hundred twenty five pounds, ran 196 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: a four nine seven. Um. I said he's a point guard. 197 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: He's a poor man's Baker Mayfield, frenetic energy, very accurate, 198 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: he's got a quick mind, average arm, and my comparison 199 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: with Scott Skiles, remember him the old point guards land man, Yes, bullets, Yes, Yeah, 200 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: that's who we reminded if Scott Scott was played pad 201 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: with passion and energy. Maybe not the most talented guy 202 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: in the world, but spunky and competitive guys. Was the 203 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: definition of a guy that you hated if you played 204 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: against him, which but you loved him if he was 205 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: on your totally a slap the floor guy, totally on defense. 206 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: He was the guy slapping the floor. He was he 207 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: was the guys slapping. Did they even do that anymore? 208 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: Maybe in Duke I don't know, Bobby Hurley was big 209 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: slapped the floor guy. Yeah, I don't know, I don't 210 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of easy, right, a little cheesy. Now, 211 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: I remember you remember that in high school? Like their 212 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: kids that did that nice? I think I probably did. Yeah, 213 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: maybe you slapped the floor guy. I don't know. I was. 214 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: I was. I was a four or five, so I 215 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: think I think, yeah, I think you got to be 216 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: playing high I think you've got to be, you know, 217 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: the guard to be up there slap on the floor. 218 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Don't think you're gonna be a power forward. Slap on 219 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: the floor. It's gonna look a little Hey, why don't 220 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: you just guard? Why don't you just try and protect 221 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: the post? Stop slapping the floor down there, Chris DJ, 222 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: the last four games, what do you want to see 223 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: from this Chargers team? And you know, as someone who's 224 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: been in the league, when you know that the playoffs 225 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: aren't going to be a possibility. How does the evaluation 226 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: process start? And I know you start thinking ahead to 227 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, maybe getting some guys in that that you 228 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: want to see be at their best next season. I 229 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: think there's there's an evaluation component that can come into it. 230 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, obviously still trying to win football games, trying 231 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to put your best foot for four to win football games. 232 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: But I also think this is a this is a 233 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: great opportunity and it's not a wholesale, but I would say, 234 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's sprinkling some younger guys, gonna get a 235 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: little more work and um and put them in maybe 236 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: in some different situations, see what they can give you. 237 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: So I always look at when you know you're mathematically 238 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't look good for you, you kind of find 239 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: out who you're you know, the guys you can rely 240 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: on going for in terms of just that core competitiveness. Yeah, 241 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: you know they're different. Successful teams come in all different 242 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: shapes and sizes. One thing they all have in common 243 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: is there they have a full chalk full of ultra 244 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: competitive individuals and um. So I'll make sure nobody packs 245 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: it in. You want to see who's gonna fight, who's 246 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: gonna scratch and claw and who's gonna give you that 247 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: type of competitive effort. Also, speaking of Austin, we talked 248 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: about him after the game. He said, listen, man, this 249 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: is what we do, right. You know, this is a brotherhood. 250 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: So if like there's no sort of packing mentality when 251 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: when you're in the NFL, it just can't be that way. 252 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: And look, it's no he wants to hear it. But 253 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: there is a little joy in spoiling somebody else's season 254 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have an opportunity to do that down 255 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: the stretch. So um, yeah, this is what you do 256 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: for a living, at your livelihood and have some pride 257 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: and go out there and put your best foot forward, 258 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: play with fanatical effort and let the chips fall where 259 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: they may. It's you know, it's it's it's weird to 260 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: say it. I know this team, it's not looking like 261 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: they're going to go into the postseason. Future is bright 262 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: and that is not you know, it's not just rose 263 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: color classes. There's a lot of young talent on this 264 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: football team and more opportunities for them to play and 265 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: grow together as we finish up. Guys like Mizier Addlie 266 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: who we just didn't see this year. Jerry Tillery, who 267 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: is you know, each and every week you hope he 268 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: continues to progress on the defensive line. And then a 269 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: whole new draft class of twenty twenty. So you couple 270 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: all that and in the success that last year's class had, 271 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: I think can carry over over these next two seasons 272 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: as well. Guys like Justin Jackson, Justin Jones, jenn and 273 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Wou obviously were Darwin. It's a great group that you 274 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: can really win with in twenty twenty, no doubt. And 275 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: I think that you know this this most recent draft class. 276 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you have injuries, you have some development, 277 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: It takes some time, um, but they're you know, you're 278 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: very hopeful going in the future. You're gonna see these 279 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: guys take the next step with a full off season 280 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: and is it coming to next year and you know, look, 281 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: you get a chance. Who knows what this pick ends 282 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: up being. There's a chance this is a you know, 283 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a top fifteen pick, maybe it's even 284 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: a top ten pick. You're gonna have a chance to 285 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: get a really impactful player there in the first round 286 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: and hopefully able to nail everything else as you go through. 287 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: I'd love to talk drafted with you right now. We'll 288 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: wait till twenty twenty. Okay, there's a lot of them 289 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: digging in. Man, I know you are in college, but 290 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: actually do like just give me an overall snapshot into 291 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Church twenty. It is um absolutely loaded wide receiver class, 292 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: absolutely low to offensive tackle class, which is great to 293 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: see for a lot of teams around the league trying 294 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: to upgrade at that position. You look at the quarterback position, 295 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's incredibly deep. Some intriguing guys obviously 296 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: when we talk about Burrow and Tuah, and then you've 297 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: got Herbert who's intriguing. You've got Jordan Love will see 298 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: what he does out of Utah State, and you've got 299 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Jake from so UM. I don't think it's where we've 300 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: seen the last three or four years with some of 301 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: those guys. But it's a it's a it's a good 302 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: group there at the top. You go over the defensive 303 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: side of the ball, loaded at corner. You've got a 304 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: couple of premier players on the defensive line. I don't 305 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten into that group to the depth of 306 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: it yet to be able to tell you about that, 307 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: but running backwise loaded. So I mean, I think, look 308 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: the way college football is right now, skill positions, you're 309 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna see him every year. If so, if you need 310 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: a skill guide, no problem. That The challenge is finding 311 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: the bigs. And this year what encourages me is it 312 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: is a great group of offensive tackle. It's good to 313 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: know for the Chargers too. Absolutely, so you'll get a chance. 314 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: They'll get a chance. Not only uh you know, picking 315 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: round one and from one, I've seen this tackled class. 316 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: You know, rounds three and four, you're gonna get starter 317 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: caliber players. So it's the season why it's down for 318 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: most people. You were just getting started cranking up. Man, 319 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: And I don't need I mean, I've got my tea here, 320 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: but I really don't need caffeine because this is like, 321 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: you know, Christmas is coming up at the end of 322 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: the month, but this is my Christmas. Every morning, every morning, 323 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm opening up new presents. I get to see some 324 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: of these new guys and uh, you know some of 325 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: them I've heard reviews on, you know, and it's like 326 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: you get a toy when you're a kid, you know, 327 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be the best toy. Ever then you open 328 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: it up. This toy sucks. But then there's the other 329 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: one that say, you know, I don't know toys, and 330 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I love this Toy's my favorite toy. Yeah, so that's 331 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: what I do every day. Awesome. Well, DJ, we'll see 332 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Buddy, appreciate the time. Thanks Bud. All right, 333 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: let's get to these questions, Y'alloy jack Boys, how do 334 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: you get the girls? Well, what do you say to 335 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: get the girls? No? Fake energy, oh, fake energy. 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Both teams 345 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: four and eight not ideal going into deceper No buy 346 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: not any stretching from the Jaguar standpoint. You know, four 347 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: straight losses is team had one since m late October. 348 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: We had a quarterback switch and change going back to 349 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: Garner Minshew. So there's a lot of things in motion, 350 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: and one of the motions is not winning. So these 351 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: guys are trying to do whatever they can at least, 352 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, try to understand what winning is, at least 353 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: feel it. It's been on the wild that's right there. 354 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Last two wins went back to back Octio. We're twentieth 355 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: and twenty seventh against the Bengals and the Jets. And 356 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, you didn't win in November. What are 357 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: they saying about the Chargers coming to town? A talented 358 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: team like the Jaguars. A lot of close losses for 359 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: the Chargers, Oh, no doubt. And you know, the first 360 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: name come to mind as Philip Rivers. He's he's had 361 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: a lot of success over the years against this franchise 362 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: and just yeah, I mean, I think that's something that 363 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: coach Maron talked about. It just those those two ends 364 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: you got this Boza and Ingram. I mean, I think 365 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: the probably the weakest point of this team right now 366 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: is their offensive line. With the Jacks and particularly those 367 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, m Juwan Taylor rookie right tackled, didn't particularly 368 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: have a good game, and Cam Robinson didn't have a 369 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: particular good game against Tampa Base. So, uh, that's definitely 370 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: an area of concern about that pass rush. And um, 371 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: you know another thing about the Chargers. You know, I 372 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on this season, but you know 373 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: they have that history of having that explosive offense and uh, 374 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: you know Melvin Gordon, I mean he was splosive running back, 375 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: and you look at those two receivers they have, Kennyan Allen, 376 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: I feel one of the best. They got their handsful, 377 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: and you know this, it's this team has had a problem, 378 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: but had a multiple the problems, but one of the 379 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: problems has been stopping the run. And even though Tampa 380 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: Bay didn't utilize that a lot, you know, you go 381 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: over to the three losses before Tampa Bay they were 382 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: giving they gave up six hundred and ninety nine yards Russians. 383 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: So that's definitely a concern, and particularly with explosive back 384 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: like Melvin Gordon. Yeah, Melvin Gordon, Austin Ekeler as well, 385 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: that that one who punch. That matchup against that Jags 386 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: defense is going to be interesting. But I want to 387 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: go to the Jaguars and the offensive side of the ball. 388 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: John went went into bringing Gardner Minshew back and is 389 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: he going to be the starter for the the rest 390 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, that's what coach Marone indicated Monday. 391 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Just so I don't know what it is. I mean, 392 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, you look at Nick Foles, a guy who 393 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: had so much success to tickle at Philadelphia, Super Bowl MVP, 394 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: but it just seems like just it hadn't really clicked 395 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: here in those three starts that he had. I think 396 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: in Philly you had more of a definitely had more 397 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: talent around him than he has here in Jacksonville. And 398 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, his mobility was a problem in the pocket, 399 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: couldn't get out of danger. And yeah, and I think 400 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: that prompted the change. You know, you looked at Darnerman. Shoot, 401 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: he can he can scramble, he can extend plays, and 402 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: it just didn't see that from from Nick. And and 403 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: you know, coming in, I mean, he's a pocket pass 404 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and he's not changed in any way from what he's 405 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: been in the past. But with this offensive line and 406 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: and the talent level. I mean, the gag walls have 407 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: had problems with receivers getting separation and and it just 408 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: doesn't look he just hadn't been in a in a 409 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: rhythm and a flow since he returned from the collarbone injury. 410 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: And they feel that Godamnshew can can do a little 411 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: bit more create you know, create more opportunities for them. 412 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean, particularly you know, scrammul ability and throwing on 413 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: the run. Those are the things that they and right now, 414 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, they're just looking for anything. 415 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this team that is just I mean, I 416 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: really think coach Marone is kind of run out of 417 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: answers a little bit, and they're just trying to find 418 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: something to spark the offense because the offense has definitely 419 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: been been a problem, you know, particularly not scoring enough 420 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: points in the first half. I mean, they were shut 421 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: out twenty five and nothing in the first half against 422 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. That prompted that that switch at quarterback and 423 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: Nick Folds he had three re turnovers on the first 424 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: three possessions of the game, so, you know, just trying 425 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: to create a spark I think kind of led to 426 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: the coach Marone decision and it just had just I 427 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: don't know what I think. You know, you look at 428 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, he he got hurt after the first ten 429 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: plays in in that opening game against Kansas City. He 430 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: was out for eight weeks and you know, coming back, 431 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: he did have a chance to practice before he returned 432 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: against the coach. But at that side, I don't know. 433 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: I just don't think he has that flow with this team, 434 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: and I don't think there's enough talent around him that 435 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: really allow him to be that Nick Foles that that 436 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: that more you know, people are familiar with. I don't 437 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: think they have the receivers. I don't think they have 438 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and obviously it's been a problem here. Well, 439 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: you know what the energy that Gardner mints you brought 440 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: to this team at the beginning of the year, that 441 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: meant humania. You know, they beat the Titans, they've Tobroncos. 442 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: He kind of came crashing down, I think in London 443 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: right when when they lost to the Texas. But I 444 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: look at his stats, John fourteen touchdowns, five interceptions, a 445 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: ninety one quarterback rating. What is it about this guy? 446 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. I just spoke to him about Gardner Minshew 447 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: and he was going through his notes, he kind of 448 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: called him like a Baker Mayfield light, someone who brings 449 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: a lot of energies, got some mobility, and you know 450 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: it seems like his teammates kind of gravitate towards him. Yeah. 451 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a different type of guy, a different personality. 452 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: Gotta good guys on this team really like him. And 453 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean here's a guy who who playing scout team 454 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: reps after starting eight games and and wanting to have 455 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: extra reps in practice to work on his red zone 456 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: complete and raid and those kinds of things. He does. 457 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: A different guy. I mean, when they told him the 458 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: decision that they were going back to Nick Foles, I 459 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: mean Coach Maron indicated that he was upset, you know, 460 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: like like he didn't take that news well. He wanted 461 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: to continue to start and the things that he does. 462 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he he got quick feed. I mean, he 463 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: got great pocket awareness to get out of trouble. I 464 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: mean when when I first saw him in preseas, he 465 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: started three games in preseason. Three of the four games 466 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: in preseason didn't lead this team to a touchdown drive 467 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: and any of those three games that he started, and 468 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're saying, well, you know, I guess he 469 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: would be okay as a backup, but we had no way, 470 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: no no way to this kid looked like he was 471 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: going to come in and step in the way he 472 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: did when when four games out of the eight games started. 473 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, he's just I mean, I think that 474 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: he plays with no fear. Um, he's definitely he's His 475 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: accuracy is is real good. I mean, and his ability 476 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: to pick up things has been one of the things 477 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: that coach Marone and his coaching staff is have raised 478 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: about that he you know, he picks up things from 479 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: the meeting room and take it out there on the 480 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: practice field. And I think that really helped him early 481 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: in the in the season. And um, and he's just 482 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: a guy who just been through a whole lot, you know, 483 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: transferred different schools. That guy has said he broke his hand, 484 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: that continue his eligibility is I mean, I just you know, 485 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: it's just he's just a rare type of fella and 486 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: he just got this type of But the Jacksonville fans 487 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: they kind of see him, you know, not like this 488 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: untouchable football player, but the one that that looks like, 489 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, just just see like a normal guy. He's 490 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: din like a construction job worker. Yeah, like a blue 491 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: collar worker. And I think that you know, resonates with 492 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: with the fan base and just the things that he said. 493 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: A mannerisms, Uh this is wed and you know he 494 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: liked to wear George the Gene shorts and those kinds 495 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, he just I mean, he's got 496 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: a great sense of humor, but he's serious about uh, 497 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, excelling as a quarterback. And I just think 498 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: that fan base he had really taken hold of someone 499 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: that this seems to be different Mississippi. You know, that 500 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: mustache and there's a persona about him that resonates. And 501 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: it also resonates with his teammates. Many they enjoy playing 502 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: when when he's out there on the field. You know 503 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: with Minshew, he had that game where he struggled. Do 504 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: you think it was just a matter of, Hey, we 505 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: gave Nick Foles this contract. Nick Foles is a super 506 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: Bowl winning quarterback. Let's see what he has now that 507 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: he's healthy. Because usually when you have a rookie quarterback, 508 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna have ups and downs, right, and you know, 509 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you got to play through those ups and downs. 510 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: It seems like if Foles wasn't on this roster, they 511 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: probably would have ridden with Minshew a little bit further 512 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: as opposed to going back to Nick. I agree with that. 513 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely, you know, six round pick, playing 514 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: like a first round draft pick. And I think that 515 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: decision was made on here's Nick Foles. He's coming back 516 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: from the injury. I mean, he's got a fifty million 517 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: dollars and guaranteed money and signed a four year, eighty 518 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: eight million dollar contract, and I think that that prompted 519 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: the decision a little bit that that we need to see, 520 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: we need to get him in the lineup, and we 521 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: need to see what he can do to help us. 522 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that may the hindsight is 523 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: always hindsight. Maybe that may not have been the best decision, 524 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, he did have a bad game. 525 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: I will say this in London they played Houston. They 526 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: really got shut out in that game twenty six to three. 527 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: And I think that he had two fumbles in the 528 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: game Minshew and struggled a little bit. Then one of 529 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: the problems has has been fumbled. He's fumbled eleven times 530 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: that he's lost seven of seven of those fumbles and um, 531 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: and he's he's had a problem getting them in the 532 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: end zone, in the red zone. You know, that's that's well, 533 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: that's been a problem for Nick Foles too. But I 534 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: think that when you look at his body of work 535 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: and how much he's progressed from from from training camp 536 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: to the preseason to coming in and having a four 537 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: four and four record as a starter, I mean, I 538 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: think that time, you know, he would have learned as 539 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: he went on, and and maybe they would have had 540 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: a better record than went their head now they would 541 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: have stuck with him, but it looked like they're gonna 542 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: stick with him now. And uh and and and I 543 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: think he's I mean, I think long term, I think 544 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: this this this has been a franchise that's not had 545 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: a lot of consistency at quarterback. Obviously, you know, it 546 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: was five seasons with Lake Bortles, and it was a 547 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: very up in that situation in his career here in Jacksonville. 548 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: And you look at someone like a like a Minshew 549 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: who you you mean he obviously he's he has a 550 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: high upside, great potential, can get the ball down, feel 551 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: that and have like a rocket arm. And you don't 552 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: have the strongest arm, but he can read defenses, he 553 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: can get the open receive, and he make plays that 554 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: he has thin plays, And I think this kid is 555 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: gonna be someone to be the quarterback. And then I 556 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: don't know what changes might happen after the season, but 557 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: I think he's here for the long tournament. And that's 558 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: not something I can say about Nick Foles. So I 559 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: think they they they found a gem in the draft. 560 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: And I think when you have a gem like that, 561 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: you gotta you know, you have to go through the 562 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: rough patch, you gotta go through the good patch, and 563 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: you gotta let this let him grow as a as 564 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But I think they found the quarterback you 565 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: just gotta be patient with. You know, John's amazing how 566 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: quickly thinks he change. In the NFL, the Charges won't 567 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: four games last year. Two years ago, the Jaguars were 568 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: less than a quarter away from going to the Super Bowl, 569 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: and I just remember thinking about all these blue chip 570 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: players on the defense, and you know, talking to Dan 571 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks talking about the guys like Miles 572 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: Jack and Jalen Ramsey and you know, in doc way, 573 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: all these guys who made up a punishing defense. Other 574 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey isn't there. Um, there's some other guys that 575 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: aren't there anymore. What do you think the biggest difference 576 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: is on this Jaguars defense compared to even last year 577 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: or two years ago. Yeah, I think that. I mean, 578 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: the linebackers is the weakest spot on this football team. 579 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Miles Jack, they've moved him the middle linebacker. 580 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's his best position. I mean, there's 581 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: a lot of mistackles, they get blocked out, they over pursued, 582 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: they don't have gap control on the on the defense 583 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: up front. I think it's been an urge to get 584 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: the sack, but not a urge to just play discipline 585 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: for all and staying your gap and be patient and 586 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: U I mean it's remarkable. I mean to see this 587 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: team in two seventeen and they were elite, elite defense, 588 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: there was no question and go to Pittsburgh and come 589 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: away when a win, you know, forcing turn takeaways and 590 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. And now it just seemed like 591 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: that defense of two years ago, it's just a shell 592 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: of what it was. You know now you know, and 593 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: I just I mean that just I mean, the fundamentals 594 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: seemed to be lost and and and you know, even 595 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: in the in the back end of the things that 596 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: they have had problems with the safeties. You know, the 597 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: bottom line is that I think they allowed too much 598 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: of the talent to leave because of salary cap situations. 599 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, kay Shaun Gibson was a key part of 600 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: that defense at that safety spot, and they they they 601 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: weighed him. And then puzz was a was a leader 602 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of and can't stop a guy from 603 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: from from retiring, but I mean his his presence as 604 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: leadership with you know, has been missed. And then you 605 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: have abruptly like Talvin Smith. It was a pretty good player, 606 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean definitely on that two seven team team and 607 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: just abruptly retires and then you you know, and you 608 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: lose pieces, you know, even Jalen Ramsey, you and you know, 609 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: there was a big problem here this season with him 610 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: and and his commitment to what not wanting to be 611 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. But you lost a guy that you could 612 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: put on in single coverage and and you didn't have 613 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: to worry about it. You just yeah, you just continued 614 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: to lose good, good players and not replacing those good 615 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: players with others good players, you know, Marstale. I think 616 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's on injured reserves and um out 617 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, but you know, he 618 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: was one of their top run stoppers and they had 619 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: had him for you know, since October, you know, so 620 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: losing the key pieces, you know, whether you have that 621 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: reputation as a defense, but if you don't have those playmakers, 622 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: you don't win. You don't you don't you can't be 623 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: elite defense. And I think that's what this team. Not 624 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I mean, I think Josh Allen is. It's 625 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I think he's amazing, remarkable, talented, young, 626 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, a rookie, But man, you gotta have a 627 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: little bit more than than Josh. You gotta have a 628 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: little bit more than Kleai's camera. I think he's kind 629 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: of regressed a little bit, you know, from from from 630 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: from the from the way he played to the two 631 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: seasons ago. Y'all Nique is still y'all Neique getting in 632 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: that on the edge and that kind of thing. But 633 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: I think the biggest problem is in the linebackers. They 634 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: just have not been consistent. Miles Jack has struggled, and 635 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: they can't stop to run. I mean, bottom line, Joe 636 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: will get you out of here on this. Two years ago, 637 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: both these teams played to the wire in twenty seventeen 638 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: to Jackson. So what do you think is going to 639 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: decide this one on Sunday? Well, I think what's going 640 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: to decide? If if, if, if the Jaguars gonna are 641 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: they gonna show up defensively? I mean, I think that's 642 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: the bottom line. I mean, I don't know if that's 643 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It hadn't happened in weeks, and I to me, 644 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: I just think, I know the Charger has had a 645 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: whole lot of problems, you know, in those kinds of things. 646 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: But I just think when you look at your offense, 647 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: and that's closeness of your offense and a vetteran quarterback 648 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: to go into that Nick, I think you got too 649 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: many weapons there for a reel. And you know, this 650 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: team is struggling defensively, and I don't think they can 651 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: stop all that firepower, And you know, I just think 652 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: there's no answers here to stop what's going on right 653 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: now defensively, and I think they're going to have problems 654 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: with your offense. So I don't see anything much difference 655 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: from Tampa Bay to Dapolis tom to the previous other losses. 656 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: I just think that the defense is the problem, and 657 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you can get it fixed in a week. 658 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think they can stop that stop their offense. 659 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: And I don't think they have enough right now they 660 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: to get in the shootout with the Chargers. So I 661 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: don't I don't think that that losing street. Who's gonna 662 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna end in Sunday here even though they're playing here 663 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: at home. Well we'll see. You know, you look at 664 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: this game in September, some folks thought that this could 665 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: have some playoff implications. Obviously that's not the case. But nonetheless, John, 666 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: I look forward to Senior in Jacksonville. You do great 667 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: work covering the Jags and appreciate all the great insight 668 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: for Chargers fans here today. Well, I appreciate it. Thanks 669 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: a lot for having me. 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He doesn't even understand 687 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: that you're setting it up for the big After a 688 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: three week absence the athletics, Daniel Pop patient he makes 689 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: his day or his return to Jacksonville. Yes, and returned 690 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: to the podcast because there's a conspiracy theory floating around 691 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: Twitter that I'd been banned from the podcast because my 692 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: criticism of Philip Rivers. The Chargers fan base is number 693 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: one player. Is it true, It's not true, back Daniel Speck. 694 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: Is Jeff can attest to this, Jeff, Jeff has tried 695 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: and true on this on this round table. We do 696 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: it anywhere. We've done it in closets at Air Force, 697 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: We've done it without a round table, like we're doing 698 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: similar to today. We are again we're doing it. He's 699 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: a model of consistency. Guys. Let's rewind for a little bit, 700 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: just to last week. Charges followed four and eight. It's 701 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: just not what everybody was expecting in these close games. 702 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: They won all these games last year. They won all 703 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: of them last year. You know, they went twelve and four. 704 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: The Seattle game, the San Francisco game, the Kansas City game, 705 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game, the Tennessee game. Those are just off the 706 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: top of my head. Up. It just hasn't gone their 707 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: way this year. Yeah, that's right. I actually wrote about 708 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: this after the game, Like you go through what happened 709 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: last year. They had, like you said, the Seahawks game 710 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: where they you know, stopped him at the goal line. 711 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: You had the two point of version against the City, 712 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: you know with four seconds left. Yeah, the Tennessee game 713 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: where Tennessee scored and tried a two point of version 714 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: and they stopped stop the team from doing exactly what 715 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: they did. They just got every break last year and 716 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: it's just not shaking out this year. And guys in 717 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: the locker room talk about how you know, winning is contagious, 718 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: it's obviously cliche, but always losing. Losing is contagious too, 719 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: And you know, Keenan Allen was telling you get to 720 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: those end of game situations, and last year they wanted 721 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: to be in those situations. They're like, we once we 722 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: get in that situation, we know we're going to win 723 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: the game. And this year they're in those same situations 724 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: and it's a whole here we go again vibe and 725 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: they don't have that same kind of confidence and it 726 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: affects you know, people want to look at, you know, 727 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: strictly numbers and metrics, but there's a human element to sports, 728 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: and you know, when you get in those situations, having 729 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: the confidence to get the win and knowing you're going 730 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: to get the win, that matters. And that's what That's 731 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: the mentality they had last year. That's the confidence they 732 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: had this year, and it's missing. It's the exact opposite. 733 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, for whatever reason, Jason, I think it's 734 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: getting these three phases all on the same page on 735 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: the same Sunday. You know, we saw it in Green 736 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: Bay or against Green Bay about a month ago, and 737 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: then you thought that that may have been like the 738 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: tipping point, right to get to December playing meaningful football, 739 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: and these lass three weeks just been tough losses. Yeah, 740 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: there's a big delineation between that game against the Packers 741 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: and most of the other games that they've had this season, 742 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: in which against the Packers was never close. The Packers 743 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: didn't reach the end zone until late in the fourth quarter. 744 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: This is more of a kind of game we've seen 745 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: under Anthony Lyn the last two years, right, which I 746 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: mean seventeen of the last twenty five games under Lynn 747 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: have been decided by eight points or less, so by 748 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: a possession or less, and it's really hard to consistently 749 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: win games that way, and you pointed out last year 750 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: they had so many of those games go their way. 751 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: But at some point the law of averages comes at you. 752 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: If you're going to continue to play games where you 753 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: can't create that separation on the scoreboard, it's going to 754 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: come back and haunt you. So as as Popera was saying. 755 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: Winning can be contagious, but losing can too. There were 756 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: some games though, last year where they're blown teams out 757 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, when you win twelve of them, 758 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some close ones. But they did blow 759 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 1: some teams out last year and even the year before. 760 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: I go back to like that thirty point win over 761 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: the Bills, the twenty eight sixth game over the Cowboys. 762 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 1: This team has that in them. It's just a matter 763 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: of getting everybody on the same page at the same time. Yeah. 764 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: They It's funny when you go back to training camp. 765 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: I remember asking a lot of guys this offseason program 766 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: training camp about that this magical late game thing that 767 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: they had going on, and everybody always said, one year 768 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: doesn't go to the next year. It doesn't. That doesn't 769 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: mean and it couldn't be more true in the NFL. Yeah, 770 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: and these guys have gone out of their way to 771 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: prove that that is the case because it is the 772 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: exact opposite of what we saw last year. And I 773 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: don't know how much of it. I don't know whether 774 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: they have this sinking feeling at the end of these games. 775 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how much that plays into it. It 776 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: must play into it at some on some level, you 777 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: would think. But you know, we saw it in that 778 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: Green Bay game. Is they you know, green Bay's really good. 779 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: Everybody could agree with that. That's a good team that's 780 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: going to go to the playoffs and they could do 781 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: some damage there and these guys dominated them. And I 782 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: think a big part of it a lot of these 783 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: games and last week's game is no exceptions, they fall behind. 784 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: They just get in this habit if they fall behind 785 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: and then they claw back and Philip Rivers mentioned it, 786 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: we always come back and then you end up doing 787 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: at the end of these games. This year it's just 788 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: been the clawback and then something claminus happens at the 789 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: end and it's just they walk up the field defeated again. 790 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: It's just for me, it just comes down to the turnovers. 791 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: Like when you have a negative ten turnover d differential, 792 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win a ton of games. But the 793 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: crazy part of this whole thing is they have a 794 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: positive point differential. In the season. They're four and easy 795 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: and they have war they've scored more points and they've 796 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: let up on the season. It looked at those teams 797 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the division. Their point differential, it's like, 798 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah, three other teams with four and eight records. 799 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: The Jags have a negative seventy nine point differential. The 800 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Jets have a negative seventy two different point differential, and 801 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: then the Broncos are also four. They have a negative 802 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: thirty nine point differential. Wow, and here the Charges with 803 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: a plus three point differential. They've played well enough to 804 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: be better. But it's just the timing of some of 805 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: these turnovers that have just been absolutely killer. I mean, 806 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about turnovers early in the game that 807 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: gets you in a huge hole, which has happened numerous 808 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: times this season, or turnovers late in games that end 809 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: up screwing you, whether it's Phil throwing that pick in Detroit, 810 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: whether it's Melvin fumbling at the goal line in Nashville. 811 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: The timing of these turnovers have been absolutely brutal. How 812 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: many they've committed has been absolutely brutal. And then just 813 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: the lack of turnovers being forced on the defensi side 814 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: of the football. You end up with a negative ten 815 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: turnover at turnover differential, and you look at the turnover 816 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: derential rankings every season and that will pretty much line 817 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: up with how good teams are and what the record is. 818 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: The Patriots are plus eighteen in the season, what's the 819 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: record ten and two? You know, stats don't equate the wins. 820 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: And if you looked at some of these stats, like 821 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: what Austin Eckler's doing, Mike Williams is like twenty point 822 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: nine yards per catch las a league leads a league, 823 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: keenan Allen, I mean, you look at some of these 824 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: offensive numbers, you look at Joey's numbers, and you'd like, 825 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: all right, the Chargers are probably right in this thing, 826 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, But that's why stats could be distewing. Jason 827 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: and I think this really goes to illustrate that this 828 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: is a really talented team and it's not that different, 829 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: and the team was last year only those close games, 830 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: as we discuss event, actually, if you're playing that many 831 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: of them, it's just gonna hurt you. Whereas if they 832 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: were able to create a little more separation, if they 833 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: weren't playing as many contests in which the ultimate result 834 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: was a winner of loss by eight or less points, 835 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: then they would have a better record, and they definitely 836 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: have the potential to do that. I think we all 837 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: agree that this is not a team talent wise, this 838 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: commensurate with a foreign aid record, but those turnovers have 839 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: made them a team that plays so many of those 840 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: close games, and again, just you can't do that. But 841 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL, they're also just it's a one score league. 842 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: You talk to guys about sort of what's been happening 843 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: in this season, guys will tell you it's it's a 844 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: one score league. Like basically, most games are going to 845 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: come down to one possession. Most games are going to 846 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: have that kind of differential in the score. Margin of 847 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: victory is never going to be that great, like he 848 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: very rarely do you see massive blowouts. I mean unless 849 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about oh sure right, like like like you 850 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: have to have a really really good team. You have 851 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: to be like the Ravens of this year where you're 852 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: just blowing teams out. Yeah, and your scheme is so 853 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: much better. Number elseve ten more talented players. You have 854 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: a player like Lamar Jackson who's more dynamic than anyone 855 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: anyone we've seen. You know, most games that we're going 856 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: to be close because the talent difference isn't that great 857 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: between teams. Typically most games, but seventeen out of twenty 858 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: five is a much higher rate. Yes, absolutely, and you're 859 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: absolutely right. If you play that many clus games, eventually 860 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: the ball is not going to bounce your way. And 861 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: that's that's what we're seeing the season. You know, injuries 862 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: every year. Every team can go back and be like, hey, 863 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: this key player was injured for X amount of games. 864 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: It was a blow to our season. I look at Durwin, James, 865 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: Mike Penalty, Rosso kom As the three players that played 866 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: all sixteen games last year. All three of them went 867 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, you know, or Russell was a 868 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 1: Pro Bowler the year before. Yeah. Yeah, but they're sixteen, seventeen. Yeah, 869 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: they're all Pro Bowl caliber players. To lose those guys, 870 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: especially offensively, but from a defensive perspective, the fact that 871 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: they haven't been getting the football to kind of compensate 872 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: for maybe turning the ball over. I think that's a 873 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: big part of this too. The plus twelve Daniel that 874 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Patriots, that's how you win games in 875 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: this league. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I would. So I would 876 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: argue there's a fourth injury in there that Islay's important 877 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: as those other three, and that's Adrian Phillips. And here's 878 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: why because once you lose Derwin, you have depth there 879 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: to replace him at strong safety, which is a very 880 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: crucial position a Gust Bradsley scheme. You have Adrian Phillips, 881 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: who's widely regard as one of the smartest guys on 882 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: this team football guys period, and you have him there 883 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: to back up Derwin a strong safety, and you can 884 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: move ahead and maybe you don't have a defensive Player 885 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: of the Year type guy at strong safety, but you 886 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: have a very very capable guy playing that position. Once 887 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: Adrian gets injured and is out for an extended period, 888 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: time goes on. Ir Now you're scrambling. Now you got 889 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: Roger team or an undrafted guy playing that strong safety spot. 890 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: You don't have a guy that's strong safety bot who's 891 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: getting guys in position and communicating the way Derwin and 892 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: Adrian both do. And then that's why you see You 893 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: look at the one defensive stat that sticks out is 894 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: their third down percentage and I have right here because 895 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: that wrote about it. But twenty eighteen, thirty nine point 896 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: one one percent of the time they're getting off the 897 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: field on third down, that's eighteenth in the league. That 898 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: jumps to forty four percent this season, they're worse on 899 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: third down and you look at the strong safety spot 900 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: that's crucial on those does start down offensive situations. So 901 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: I look at Adrian Phelps is and Jay's huge this season. 902 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: It's big, and there was a surplus of dbs in 903 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. Remember they played Lamar. They didn't 904 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: have any linebackers. One of the linebackers that has started 905 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: to come on as a rookie, Drew Tranquill, had three 906 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: tackles for loss against the Broncos. He's made flashes throughout 907 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: the season, whether on special teams or defense. I think 908 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: we're starting to see a guy who could be a 909 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: big central piece in this defense of twenty twenty. Jeff, Yeah, 910 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: I think that's their hope and that I think they're 911 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: very pleased at that pick. I mean, you look at 912 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 1: their draft. Hasn't been hasn't produced a whole lot this season, 913 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: I think compared to the year before too, I mean 914 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: especially compared to the year before. But that's one pick 915 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: that they I think you can't criticize, so you can't 916 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: second guess that pick at all. That's a turn. It's 917 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: been a great pick. I think they're delighted with what 918 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: they've seen from him. I think we all expected him 919 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: to be a good special teams player, which he is, 920 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: but you know, he can go in there and defense 921 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: and he's flying around making plays. And I think they 922 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: are very happy with that pick. And I think he's 923 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: a guy. I know Anthony Lynn earlier this year said 924 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: about trank Will, you know he's going to be a 925 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: guy that's in this league for a long time. And 926 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: I think they would be just delighted if he was 927 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: here for a long time. Yeah, And to that point, 928 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: because of the way they run their defense, getting more 929 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: speed on the linebacking levels importance and with Denzel Perryman 930 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: dealing with his injuries this season, Thomas Davis entering with 931 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: the sixteenth seventeenth year of his career somewhere around there. 932 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: Having someone like trank Will who can play a lot 933 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: of snaps and he has at this point played a 934 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of snaps and bringing that kind of cuddicism is 935 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is a field tilting addition for them. 936 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: And also just his background is a safety in college. 937 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: He's excellent coverage, so they trust him out on the 938 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: field and those dime packages where he's the lone linebacker 939 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: in the field and oftentimes getting matched up with a 940 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: running back or a tight end. They feel like he's 941 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: capable in coverage and that allows him to do a 942 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: lot more with those with those dine packages, those subpackages, 943 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: getting more defensive backs in the field, which Gus Bradley 944 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: likes to do in those those third and long situations, 945 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: second and long situations. What do you guys want to 946 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: see out of this team in December? Obviously at four 947 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: and eight you get the Jaguars who are four and 948 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: eight on Sunday. From a developmental standpoint, any specific players 949 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have eyes on that you want to see, Well, 950 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: it could be someone like Derwin James, who we saw 951 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: have it all pro year. What he brings to the 952 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: defense and how he's going to get better. I almost 953 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: like it to you would hope how how Melvin got 954 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: better each and every game. That was his first game 955 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: bag he didn't play preseason, and he played all but 956 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: one snap. It's crazy. Yeah, for me, I'm watching Philip 957 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: Rivers because his contract is up after the season and 958 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: they need to figure out what they're going to do 959 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Kenn he limit the turnovers and Kenny start 960 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: converting in the red zone because that's the key to me, 961 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: and so I'll be watching him and then you know, 962 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: started in concert with that is Shane Steiken and how 963 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: the offense is. You know, they've been moving the ball well, 964 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: but can they start converting in the red zone? And 965 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: I think that will be sort of very key in 966 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: terms of determining do you stick with fill next season? 967 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: And also do you stick with Shayanestein insr offensive play 968 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: caller next season two. So that's what I'm watching the 969 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: rest of the way. I think it's that's the most 970 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: important thing moving forward to this team. You know, you 971 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: need a quarterback in this league period. I'd like to 972 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 1: see him win a game, and I'd like to see 973 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: him play well. And I think this weekend, if they 974 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: have an opponent that they they should be able to beat. 975 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times we said that I think 976 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: they're by the way they are like one in five, 977 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: one in six. I think they've won one of the 978 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: other last five or six games have been favorite in 979 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 1: I would not feel comfortable making these guys a favorite 980 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 1: over anybody right now, but I would love to see 981 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: these guys play it. Just like go out there and 982 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 1: just you know, knock these guys around, so didn't play 983 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: like we think they have, you know, just to see 984 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: if it's there, see you know, it just just to 985 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of I mean we saw really the Green Bay 986 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 1: game is the only game where they play really well, 987 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: and I'd like to see him do that against the 988 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: team that they should beat, and it just to kind 989 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: of see what it get a sense of what like 990 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: last year was like again, because it seems like it's 991 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: in there somewhere, and I think it would just do 992 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: everybody wonders. And if you do, I think they would 993 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: just feel a lot better about themselves if they could 994 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: go out there and do that. The human element that 995 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned is very real. And I use the Ravens 996 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: again as an example. When they beat the Ramps. The 997 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: offense was feed off the defense. They the special teams 998 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: as lights out. They trust Justin Tucker last week kicking 999 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: that field goal in the reign against the forty nine ers. 1000 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: All three phases believe in each other and feed off 1001 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: each other, and that's why you're seeing them blow teams 1002 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: out the way that they are. Yeah, all of that 1003 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: is true. I'm gonna focus. I mean, the Philip riverencing 1004 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: is the most important because of what he means to 1005 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: the franchise. But related to that is the play of 1006 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and in particular the play of some 1007 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: of those interior players. You know, we talked about Rivers 1008 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: is in the last year of his contract, and no, 1009 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is in the last year of his contract, 1010 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: but Michael Scofields also in the last year of his contract, 1011 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: and he's been the most reliable offensive lineman they've had 1012 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: in terms of ability, in terms of performance, He's rock 1013 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: solid and those kind of players tend to get a 1014 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities on the open market. So if he 1015 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: plays well, does the team just say, Okay, we have 1016 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,919 Speaker 1: to find a way to retain him. Do they look 1017 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: some of their other offensive linment. You know, Dan Phenei 1018 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: has played a number of positions. Can he step up 1019 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 1: and maybe be the center of the future. I know 1020 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: he's not playing there now. Can he go back to 1021 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: guard full time and be one of those guys, because 1022 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, for Lamps, someone who's not playing right now 1023 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: figures to be a part of that equation too. There's 1024 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: all these moving parts of the offensive line that relate 1025 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: to rivers performance and what the team is going to 1026 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: look like, next year, are you going to the parade? 1027 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: Did Daniel Popper home coming parade? I'm actually organizing, I 1028 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: thought him. I thought it was a secret. Get out 1029 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: of the bag starts at eleven pm us. Listen, we 1030 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: don't get to Jacksonville often. What are we doing? Ok? 1031 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: Food Save Harbor Seafood right over the bridge near the Intercoastal. 1032 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: It's a like commercial fishing company, but they have two 1033 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: places they serve food. Get your Mayport shrimp there. It's 1034 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: best shrimp in the world. Mayport shrimp. It's a little 1035 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: like peninsula at the top of Jacksonville area. Great shrimp. 1036 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: They got fresh fish every day. You get your captain uh, 1037 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: you know, combo, and you get your fried get your 1038 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: fried shrimp, get your blackened fresh frish. You go red snapper, mahi, 1039 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: whatever they got there that day. Get some hush puppies, 1040 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 1: some fries, get a little green beans in there, nice ipa, 1041 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: and you're good to go for the day. This guy's 1042 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: from New York. By the way, if you mister, I 1043 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: was not even in Jacksonville. I had to break my 1044 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: lease in Jacksonville before I got two years so I 1045 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: could move to Los Angeles. So that's just just to 1046 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: keep that in mind when you're hearing all this. Um. 1047 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: But then if you want to, like, you know, go 1048 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: out a little bit, you know, head of the beaches, 1049 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: Lynches Pub, great dive bar, live music every night. Um. Now, 1050 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: the one thing is in Florida's and in Jacksonville you 1051 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: can still smoke indoors after nine pm. So just be 1052 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: aware of that when you're in bars. Um. But yeah, 1053 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: Lynch's Pub safe harber like Rick. And then you want 1054 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: if you want to look well, I mean like if 1055 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: you guys read me every week, I clearly have a 1056 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: passion for food and drink. Yeah, I've not seen him 1057 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: this animated, and I've seen him talk about taco and then, uh, 1058 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: there's some good really nicer, some nicer places in like 1059 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: Atlantic Beach area. You can got a coop through our 1060 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: three best fried chick and I've ever had North Beach 1061 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: Fish Camp has some good stuff, good fish there. Um. Yeah, 1062 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: it was a good town. It's fine. It's a good 1063 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: place to spend you know any of this, Jeff, you 1064 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: do any of this? Uh? I Jeff has yet to 1065 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: meet me for a beer on the road. By the way, 1066 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 1: I think it's because he's um. Next question please, we'll 1067 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: end it there. Guy, it was fun Week fourteen Jacksonville, Jason, Daniel, 1068 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: Jeff appreciate the time. All right, that'll do it for us. 1069 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: A big thanks to the Beat writers John Reid and 1070 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah for joining me, and of course thanks to 1071 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: you all for listening. Remember be sure to subscribe to 1072 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: the all new Chargers podcast network where if you listen 1073 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: to pie I guess we're down on Spotify and Soundclouds, 1074 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: so wherever you listen Charges podcast networks there. Enjoy the 1075 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: game Sunday and until next time, I'm Chris Harry