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Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether to start with the all combined

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Speaker 1: know you guys would have serious thoughts having attended in

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Speaker 1: cover or the combine, Or would you like to start

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Speaker 1: with my new marketing mantra, which I think came to fruition.

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Speaker 1: Actually at the combine that both Darren Urban and Danny

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Speaker 1: Serect just covered in person Pauly podcast over here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground. Which direction would you like to start, Darren?

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Speaker 1: As you have that earnest look on your face, so

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Speaker 1: I'll begin with you. Well, I mean I could only

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Speaker 1: say that if you have an all of the combine team,

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Speaker 1: if Danny's not on it, I mean, goodness, creacious good,

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Speaker 1: that's good Danny. You know, are you looking at me? Darren?

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Speaker 1: With me at the moment. I didn't see any special teams.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a special team's performer and you know, so

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Speaker 1: like the Pro Bowl and Danny, because I didn't see

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Speaker 1: how would you have an all combine team? Dare I

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Speaker 1: ask the all combined four people interior d Lyman who

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Speaker 1: I think is on the Cardinals radar by the way,

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Speaker 1: Brian Bercie, the guy out of Clemson. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I mean he is an extra large dude and he

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Speaker 1: team Interior d line All Combine. So this is real.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say this without oh yeahs NFL dot Com. Well,

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Speaker 1: so if you're all combined team corner Christian Gonzalez, who

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Speaker 1: he's the brother in law of David bli yea brother

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Speaker 1: in law of David. Yeah, okay, but so like if

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Speaker 1: you don't work out, so if you're like Tyree Wilson,

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Speaker 1: you can't be on that Oh no, no, no, you

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Speaker 1: have to be a real full participant in the combine.

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Speaker 1: Really embrace everything the combine offers before you can find

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Speaker 1: yourself on the all combined team. We're going to take

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Speaker 1: that as a compliment. I don't think it was intended

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Speaker 1: a compliment. Darren. If you're nominating Danny, I mean you

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Speaker 1: should know. You've been covering the combine for a couple

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Speaker 1: of decades. So what makes Danny all Combine twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, elaborate. First of all, she's got the youth

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Speaker 1: the I'm buying there is a there's more things to

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Speaker 1: That's not me. I I wasn't going to do some

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Speaker 1: leads me to my Markarti mantra, which is AZ needs

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Speaker 1: A top You went in with Bryce Young number one.

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Speaker 1: C J. Stroud killed it. Did he not come or

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Speaker 1: making every single throw once again on air, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I'm just saying, this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: We know how this works. And then of course Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 1: you're looking a little skeptical over there. I mean when

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Speaker 1: disappointed there wasn't more hand sized conversation at the Combine

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Speaker 1: So it is, and I'm not trying to take away

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Speaker 1: big risers and fallers on the draft board. Now, can

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson was a third round pick in everybody's eyes,

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Speaker 1: anybody to know. Well, look, I'll just cite the Rich

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Speaker 1: don't discount Anthony Richardson going first overall. An NFL executive

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Speaker 1: recently told rich eisend quote he's a blend of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: you think that they came to that conclusion at Indy. Well,

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Speaker 1: best thing that happened to the Cardinals and to Anthony

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe the best thing I've heard about Will Anderson,

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Speaker 1: it's but once again, if Will Anderson was draft Elo

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Speaker 1: an option for you, that to me feels like a

428
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Speaker 1: no brainer. And you don't always forget is that sauce

429
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Speaker 1: Gardner was not the first cornerback taken last year, and

430
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Speaker 1: number three overall was Derek Stingley Junior to Houston, and

431
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Speaker 1: then Sauce Gardner went four to the New York Jets.

432
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Speaker 1: I totally forgot about that. A Kansas City, You're Super

433
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Speaker 1: Bowl champion, got Trent mcduffee number twenty one last year,

434
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Speaker 1: so I mean, if we're going to start playing that game,

435
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Speaker 1: you what's his name went to Seattle in the fifth round,

436
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Speaker 1: and that is the segue to the stinkin Seahawks that

437
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Speaker 1: number five overall, and you're right, they got Tarik Woolen

438
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Speaker 1: in the fifth round. He's pretty good, probably second best

439
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Speaker 1: corner in the draft. At this point, maw that that

440
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Speaker 1: pick for Seattle's from Denver. You mean the fifth overall? Right, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: the Denver pick. So for the great Russell Wilson. Speaking

442
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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, Daniel Jones is signed while we're sitting here.

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Speaker 1: Really for how much should you get forty five? Well,

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Speaker 1: the first first thing is one sixty over four years,

445
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Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. Because the initial numbers for

446
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Speaker 1: Geno Smith ended up being way over inflated too, so

447
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Speaker 1: we'll see. Those are always agent numbers. But that also

448
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Speaker 1: means I'm assuming as we sit here a couple minutes

449
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Speaker 1: before the deadline, that means sa Quon Barkley I'll get

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag. But we'll see. Yeah, the report on

451
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Speaker 1: Geno Smith, as long as we're talking about the Seahawks,

452
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Speaker 1: three years, one hundred and five million, that's from the agent.

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Speaker 1: In reality, it's two years forty million guaranteed and probably

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Speaker 1: closer to fifty before the Seahawks could get out of

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Speaker 1: its sort of like Derek Carr four years one hundred

456
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Speaker 1: and fifty million. But when the sports business people break

457
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Speaker 1: it down, it's really two years sixty million, maybe closer

458
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Speaker 1: to seventy before the Saints could get out of that one.

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Speaker 1: So with the Seahawks sitting at five, does that influence anything, Darren?

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals might be thinking at three, meaning do we

461
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Speaker 1: dare trade out of number three and cash in that

462
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Speaker 1: pick and then leave Will Anderson potentially on the board

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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks at number five. I mean, let's face

464
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Speaker 1: it that I could just see that being just this horrible,

465
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Speaker 1: horrible thing play out for the Cardinals that you pass

466
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Speaker 1: on Will Anderson. You make a great trade and all

467
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Speaker 1: those things, and you get some stuff out of it,

468
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Speaker 1: but then Will Anderson's in Seattle and wreaking havoc on

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Speaker 1: your quarterback for the next ten years or whatever. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't need another DK Metcalf situation. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. I Andy z I Andy on the Bingo card.

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Speaker 1: By the way, there is no Bingo card this week. Paul,

473
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Speaker 1: I dropped the ball. I'm holding myself accountable. That seems

474
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Speaker 1: to be the word of the year around the facility.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to hold myself accountable that I dropped

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Speaker 1: the ball. I have the Beinger card on my computer.

477
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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to add more phrases so that we

478
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Speaker 1: can all have different boards, so that were it's less

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Speaker 1: likely that we will get going to the next level. Paul.

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Speaker 1: This is it's the offseason. It's where you really ramp

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Speaker 1: things up. I throw out there the complacency kills progress.

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Speaker 1: But actually you coined a different saying earlier in the

483
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Speaker 1: podcast said you can't be content with being content. I

484
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Speaker 1: did say that. Thanks for listening, Paul. We're going to

485
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Speaker 1: put that on a placard right over in the girls

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Speaker 1: room where Danny works. You can't be content with well, okay,

487
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Speaker 1: when you say like that, it makes it sound like

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Speaker 1: the bathroom, and that's not the case. No, because Paul's

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Speaker 1: sitting in there. Our office. Our office. Our office has

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Speaker 1: four this reque. Our office has four desks that are

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Speaker 1: separated by these tall dividers. It is myself, our team, photographer,

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Speaker 1: another editor who are all females, and Paul. So we

493
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Speaker 1: joked that our little fish bowl room because our our

494
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Speaker 1: walls don't hit the ceiling, so it's kind of open.

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Speaker 1: We joke that our room is called the girl's room

496
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Speaker 1: and Paul, so that's what Paul means. You can also

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Speaker 1: call it the fun zone. But I don't want people

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Speaker 1: thinking that the girl's room was like I worked by

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Speaker 1: the bathroom. That's like a song with like a featuring

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Speaker 1: the Girl's Room featuring Paul Calvins, except there's just a

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Speaker 1: big sun that says girls room. There's no mention of

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Speaker 1: my name. Danny mentions it as there's no mention of

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Speaker 1: my name whatsoever. It's just girls room. And then what's

504
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Speaker 1: the old I'm actually really disappointed that it is that

505
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Speaker 1: there's that we have the that they put the the

506
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Speaker 1: pictures on the on the fishbowl walls because when it

507
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Speaker 1: was really the fishbowl long before Danny showed up and

508
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Speaker 1: that and I was just glass windows that you could

509
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Speaker 1: look right in. Oh gosh, and on a June afternoon,

510
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Speaker 1: so it gets hot. You know why those pictures are

511
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Speaker 1: up though? That was the hidden control room for all

512
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Speaker 1: or nothing. Oh, I did not know. They didn't. They

513
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Speaker 1: did not want most of the building understanding what was

514
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Speaker 1: going on in there, so they covered it up. Looked

515
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: like the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Nassa. There were

516
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: so many controls in there, so we're worried. Exactly on

517
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Speaker 1: this the Sekwon Barkley getting the franchise Tackle Okay Lamar

518
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Speaker 1: Jackson Lamar Jackson, so the non exclusive tender, meaning someone

519
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Speaker 1: can come in with a couple of first round picks

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Speaker 1: and then get a deal done. Supposedly, he can't negotiate

521
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Speaker 1: with Miami until after the draft though, because the Dolphins

522
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Speaker 1: do not have a first round pick in this year's draft.

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Speaker 1: So if the Dolphins want to give up two first rounders,

524
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Speaker 1: which precludes them from getting a deal done with Lamar

525
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Speaker 1: until after the draft. A lot of people are syncing

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Speaker 1: up Lamar's hometown, the fact that Tah most likely isn't

527
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Speaker 1: going to be long term, and what could Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 1: do with Lamar Jackson consider he comes from the Kyle

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Speaker 1: shanahantry in that run game, that would be lethal. It

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Speaker 1: is crazy to me when years from now Baltimore looks

531
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Speaker 1: back at just what they had and what is happening.

532
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Speaker 1: So we're assuming Lamar's gone. I'm assuming so, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm not because all Baltimore has to do is say, yeah,

534
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Speaker 1: that contract works for us, we'll manage. That is true.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of Miami, not to completely change it. Did

536
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Speaker 1: you guys see online the tweet? I don't remember who

537
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: said it or how much credibility there is that supposedly

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Speaker 1: tom Brady might not actually be done and Miami might

539
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Speaker 1: be a team to look out for. Well, you saw

540
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: tom Brady's tweet, didn't you. No, I did it, he goes.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who thinks I have the time to go back

542
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Speaker 1: to playing NFL football doesn't understand that I just adopted

543
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: a two week old kitten for my daughter. So he's funny. Now. Yeah,

544
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: so that was yeah, he's it was his attempt. Well

545
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: not to you. Hey, that's the second team mentioned an

546
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Speaker 1: association with tom Brady this week, because to start the week,

547
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Speaker 1: there was a mention that I think was Michael Silver

548
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: who said, and I'm looking at it right here. I

549
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: just found it. I'd spect the Niners to place a

550
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: call to Tom Brady to see if there's any chance

551
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: they could convince him to end his retirement and play

552
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: a final season with his hometown team. This is in

553
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Speaker 1: the event that Brock Purty his elbow was a ready.

554
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Speaker 1: You'll give them that idea, Paul, I feel like we

555
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: just we just went back in time a year. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this, we have talked about There's no doubt

557
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Speaker 1: in my mind that Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers would

558
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: love to play for their hometown team. There's just a

559
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: couple of problems with that. A the quarterbacks they already

560
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Speaker 1: had under contract, then the emergence of Brock Purty, and

561
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Speaker 1: in most recently the case of Tom Brady. The worst

562
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Speaker 1: game he played all year was in Santa clar late

563
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Speaker 1: in the season against the forty nine Ers. He was

564
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Speaker 1: horrendous in that game. Brock Purty was so much better. Well,

565
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Speaker 1: he was playing against the forty nine ers defense though,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, he was missing throws and it was

567
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Speaker 1: just he looks skittish and brock Purdy was cool, super

568
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Speaker 1: good against the Cardinals. So look, um, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: how But I would not be shocked, not shocked at all.

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Speaker 1: And do I beive reason to say this other than

571
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Speaker 1: these rogue reports out there, But I wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 1: if Tom Brady was a forty nine Ers quarterback next year,

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Speaker 1: just based on where that whole thing is tracking right now.

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Speaker 1: What if Aaron Rodgers were a Jet Well, as of

575
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Speaker 1: this recording, they're talking that, and Jets ownership has flown

576
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Speaker 1: to California to resume conversations in person with Aaron Rodgers.

577
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Speaker 1: So yes, it is eerily familiar. With what happened to

578
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Speaker 1: Brett Farve and the end of his tenure in green

579
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Speaker 1: Bay ended up with the Jets. And do the Jets

580
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Speaker 1: want to move on? I would say are resounding yes.

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Speaker 1: Would they'd love to see him in the AFC? Absolutely? So,

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Speaker 1: the Jets would be a good fit for Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I would think the question is to what degree do

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Speaker 1: they want to get do they consider an addition by

585
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Speaker 1: subtraction getting rid of the high maintenance Aaron Rodgers? And

586
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Speaker 1: what would they take? Oh, I think at this point

587
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Speaker 1: the Packers are ready to move on from Aaron Rodgers.

588
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Speaker 1: I don't think. To me, there's no question about that.

589
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Speaker 1: I think we know that as soon as Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: had permission to talk to the Gems. I also get

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Speaker 1: the vibe that he seems like someone who if he

592
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be there but still is, he would

593
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: not make life easy for the Packers, which not to

594
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Speaker 1: say that he has over the last couple of years,

595
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's probably for the best for

596
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: all parties involved too move on. He basically opted out

597
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Speaker 1: of the off season. They had all new receivers. He

598
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Speaker 1: didn't spend any time creating chemistry and into the off

599
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Speaker 1: season workouts. He sort of went through the motions reportedly

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Speaker 1: during the mandatory mini camp, and then showed up in

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Speaker 1: training camp and they had a very slow start to

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Speaker 1: the season. Then they put it together a string of

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Speaker 1: wins down the stretch, and all of a sudden, he

604
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Speaker 1: was connecting with his receivers, and supposedly Green Bay managements like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. If you have been vested

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Speaker 1: from the beginning, we wouldn't have had the slow start

607
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Speaker 1: because it takes time to develop that connection with your

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Speaker 1: young receivers. So if you would have been here as

609
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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars a year and a reigning MVP and

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Speaker 1: actually put the commitment into the off season, we'd be

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Speaker 1: in the postseason. And so that was part of the

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Speaker 1: burn bridges between management and the quarterback at this point.

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Speaker 1: So I was channeling the Packers front off. I was

614
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Speaker 1: doing my little you know by the way, it sort

615
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: of feels my finger to the win, like the Cardinals

616
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Speaker 1: might have a preseason game in Green Bay real soon,

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Speaker 1: like everyone decade Cardinals go to Green Bay and Lambeau.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels like the year. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I'm just throwing that out there. I'd

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Speaker 1: be crystalber we do have what do we have two

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Speaker 1: preseason road games? I think? Or no, we only have

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Speaker 1: one one because of the other way he sets up. Now,

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Speaker 1: what about the reports out that the Cardinals were quote

624
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Speaker 1: shopping DeAndre Hopkins at the Combine and then what did

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Speaker 1: you make a DeAndre Hopkins working out with Dez Bryant

626
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Speaker 1: and the live streaming as we go to our Cowboys

627
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Speaker 1: expert Danny Serek here, what exactly what you tell us

628
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Speaker 1: what to make of that he's hanging out in the

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Speaker 1: Dallas area, almost like he's trying to speak it into

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Speaker 1: existence DeAndre Hopkins. I don't take it as that. I'd

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Speaker 1: take it as someone who's from Houston, so it really

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Speaker 1: makes sense, I guess to go back and forth if

633
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Speaker 1: you're in Texas to Dallas and work out with certain

634
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Speaker 1: trainers and players who are down there. I think he

635
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: was working out with Von Miller. I don't take that

636
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Speaker 1: as like if you're asking if that's you know, all

637
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Speaker 1: signs are leading to the star in Frisco for Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's hard to take it any other way.

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Speaker 1: After being in the comp at the Combine in India,

640
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Speaker 1: the fact that the Cardinals, like, how could you not

641
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: take it as they are interested in shopping him around,

642
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: because when Mannie Ausinford talked, when Jonathan Gannon talked at

643
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: the podium at the Combine, they both just kind of said, essentially,

644
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: in more or less words, he's on the team right now,

645
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's going to be on the

646
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: team come training camp. And so I was the Jonathan

647
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: Gannon quote that really got me, as somebody said, is

648
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: do you expect DeAndre Hopkins to be on the team

649
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: this year? And the first words out of Jonathan Gannon's

650
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: mouth was, I'm not sure. I feel like it's doing

651
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: your due diligence. What are you going to get from him?

652
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: Because his trade clause we talked about last week on

653
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: the podcast is now avoid because of his suspension, So

654
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: it's really all in the Cardinals hands. I don't necessarily

655
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: see this as what we were just talking about Aaron Rodgers,

656
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: where if the Cardinals do keep Hopkins, I don't see

657
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: that as the same of Hopkins making life difficult for

658
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in the way that it seems Aaron Rodgers

659
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: has done for the Packers. I don't see that happening

660
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: if he does stay a Cardinal. But to me, it

661
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: makes sense to see what you can get for him.

662
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a first. I would think

663
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: you probably could, but from what at least reports we've

664
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Speaker 1: seen online, which who knows how true those are At

665
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: this point, it's so early of I've really just been

666
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: seeing a second. Yeah, I got to be honest, My

667
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: hope for a first as dwindles. So if that's the case,

668
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: is that worth a trade? I don't know. Well, once

669
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: upon a time, the Cardinals traded with the Texans and

670
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: gave up a second and then David Johnson and I

671
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: wanted to cut anyway, right, So they are more of

672
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: an happy to give up David Johnson and the contract

673
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: that Houston took in return. Yeah. Now, the reason that

674
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: they got DeAndre Hopkins for a second at the time

675
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: was because they had to pay DeAndre Hopkins, and they did.

676
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: They did a deal. So look they're at the same

677
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: point right now. With no guaranteed money on his deal.

678
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is going to want to do a new

679
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: deal with his potential next team, so that would probably

680
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: bring down the price you're going to get in return.

681
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: In terms of compensation to the Cardinals. So you can say, yeah,

682
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: wait a minute, the Cardinals traded away a first round

683
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: pick for Hollywood Brown, why would they get a first

684
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: round pick for DeAndre Hopkins. Well, totally different financial aspect

685
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: to the investment in the player. But if you're asking me,

686
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: by the time we get to training camp, is DeAndre

687
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Hopkins is gonna be a Cardinal? I would be surprised.

688
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: I just it just seems like based on that response,

689
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: based on the fact that Monti Astenford didn't shut down

690
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: the speculation. His answer wasn't I'm quoting. There is plenty

691
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: of time for that. In fact, he hops thirty one,

692
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: you're hitting the reset button. You can get a pretty

693
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: high pick in return, even if it's round two pick.

694
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: It's a loaded draft. It just you don't have Kyler

695
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Murray around for how many games. I would think they're

696
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: you know DeAndre Hopkins himself. Look, I can tell you

697
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: this much. There's a lot of interest out of Cleveland.

698
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: They're talking a lot about reuniting Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins.

699
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones already gone on the record, we messed up

700
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: last year after the trade of Amari Cooper, we needn't

701
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: get enough in return or and or another number one receiver.

702
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys seemingly are interested. There's been reports that

703
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: have cited that Chiefs would be interested, that Giants cut

704
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: Kenny Galladay woulden thing's missing from that Giants roster right now.

705
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: They just went to the playoffs a bona fide number

706
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: one receivers, So I think the Cardinals will have interest

707
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: in the live options. Well, to me, if they have

708
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: that much interest, then if there's that many teams that

709
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: are interested, then they might be able to get a

710
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: first round pick, especially when you talk about some of

711
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: those teams that are going to be picking later in

712
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: the first round. Anyways, it did, Darren, I think you

713
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: touch on this on the podcast last week of It

714
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: feels like, how do you walk backwards from what you're saying.

715
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Speaker 1: The way that the Cardinals are talking about being open

716
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: to trading. Hopkins doesn't sound like someone you would keep around.

717
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: Usually you're more, you know, saying hey, you know what,

718
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: we like him rings last the table, like we'd be

719
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: open to listening. But it does feel like the Cardinals

720
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: are pretty much saying, yeah, we've already been talked. So

721
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: it does feel like hard to walk backwards unless maybe

722
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: this is just trying to appease Hopkins, maybe to a

723
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: certain sense. I mean he posted that like cryptic Instagram

724
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: message like as soon as the season ended, kind of

725
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: thinking that's right. So I don't know, like I understand.

726
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: I think it's clear that the Cardinals are open and

727
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: are probably taking those phone calls, and it does seem

728
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: likely that he will not be a Cardinal. But now

729
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: they have the power in their hands. Here's what we

730
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: don't know. We've Monty Austin forts Now talked a couple

731
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: of times about the conversation that he had with Hopkins

732
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: and his representative. Hopkins I think briefly touched on it

733
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: at some event he was, I know Tyler Drake of

734
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: Arizona Sports asked him about it. In all three circumstances,

735
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: all that we heard was it was a good conversation.

736
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Nobody has said what the contents of those of that

737
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: conversation was, and for all we know, Hopkin said, yeah,

738
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't really want to be here. Let's let's try

739
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: and figure something out. And the Cardinals say, okay, we'll

740
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: see what we can do, but just keep a lid

741
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: on it until we can get something done. No, that's

742
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: all good background. I would also cite Jonathan Gannon and

743
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: his intro press conference who was asked about DeAndre Hopkins

744
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: and he said he had yet to speak to him.

745
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: So I thought that was telling we'll bet, we'll bet

746
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: in a way. So but look, Robbie Anderson, at least

747
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: as of reports, yes, thank you, and the twelve million

748
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: dollar cap hit made it a certainty. So boom he

749
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: was cut. Rodney Hudson, he hasn't been cut yet. Let's

750
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: let's hold on here, he hasn't been cut yet. Well,

751
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'll go back to the report of that.

752
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I said that I was trying to use that as

753
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: a covering everything got it. My question is here chosen Anderson,

754
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson, who else? And how many other names? How

755
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: many big names? Do you expect some serious change? You

756
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: expect some trimming around the edges or are there going

757
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: to be some big names that are cut for salary

758
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: cup purpose purposes or otherwise. I have to look, I

759
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: haven't looked at all the cap numbers. And the other

760
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: reality of this, Paul, is that they have so many

761
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: free agents. Anyways, I was going the other day that

762
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: the It is amazing how few offensive linemen they have

763
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: under contract considering how many guys came through here. Let's

764
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: go DJ Humphrey's Josh Jones, Marquise Hayes, Marquis Hayes Smith,

765
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Ceda Smith both coming off the rookie years. Rodney Hudson

766
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: for now, Okay, but I'm not counting him. So I

767
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: got four. I have four old linemen under contract right now. Yeah,

768
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: that Darren, you might have to suit up, might be it.

769
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean trying to think. Man, I'm on the throw

770
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: it right now. I mean, and one years was a

771
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: one year um, the Simmons kid on the practice squad.

772
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: They resigned him. I mean, you were a shad cowards

773
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: You're Cody Fords were all one year deals free agent.

774
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if

775
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: there has to be a bunch of cuts because they're

776
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: just darning a lot of people under contract right and

777
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: and that's really going to get driven home next Wednesday

778
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: when I flip the roster and take off all the

779
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: guys who are not under contract, and on the website,

780
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: there'll be very few people. I mean, I don't want

781
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: to go a shock shot podcasting here, But like, would

782
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: someone like a James Connor or a zach Ertz be

783
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: a potential target from what we have seen online with

784
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: the projection of this draft class. The one position at

785
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: the podium at the combine when monti asp was asked

786
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: how deep this draft classes, the one position he named

787
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: was tight end. That's right, And that's the only I

788
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: hadn't I hadn't thought about a cap hit with zach

789
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: Ertz until this moment of being a possibility. Now, the

790
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: thing is is do you feel like you have enough

791
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: and Trey McBride to do that. I don't know that

792
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. And don't forget Jonathan Gannon said

793
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: you're going to be going in eleven, twelve, and thirteen

794
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: personnel all the time. So and who else Trey McBride

795
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: zach Ertz are really your only tight ends right now? True?

796
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: And you know what, zach Ertz goes back to the

797
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Philly days with Jonathan Gannon. I don't I don't know

798
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: that you would cut James Connor um, but I guess

799
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: anything is possible. I mean, look going forward, you're you're

800
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: coming off a four win season. You're either part of

801
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: the solution or part of the problem. James Connor is

802
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: most definitely part of the solution. I mean you're trying

803
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: to hit reset on the culture and have a physical team.

804
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: That is definitely James Connor. I'll say that much. You're

805
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: not cutting Earth's He's he would be ten million in

806
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: the dead money and you'd only save two point six. Okay,

807
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: so that's not happening, gotcha. All right, I'm gonna look

808
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: up Connor time. I'm just throwing out some names, just wondering,

809
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, if there's a big names, because there's always

810
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: a shock, there's always a surprise move that none of

811
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: us saw coming that somehow, some way makes sense, either

812
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: financially or otherwise. Even a veteran who may not be

813
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: want to be around for what could be a rebuild

814
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: for the next year or two. What is Dot Connor

815
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: either no. Nine point seven and dead money only saving

816
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand. What is Marcus Golden? Marcus Golden is

817
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: somebody I could see that happening too. I don't he

818
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: does not. I think what was the deal he signed?

819
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't marriage, Yeah, it wasn't much. Well, And speaking

820
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: of Eagles connections, look, if you're gonna. Let's say you

821
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: drafted Will Anderson and you want to have a veteran

822
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: edge guy a Brandon Graham would be out there for

823
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: free agent from the Eagles, and then Jonathan Gannon has

824
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: that connection. If you're looking for defensive lineman, whether or

825
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: not you bring back Zach Allen and hopefully the Cardinals do,

826
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: I think we all agree on that, but you still

827
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: have a need for defensive lineman or Javon Hargrave of

828
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, even a Dominican Sue had that one year

829
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: deal with the Eagles. These guys all have connections to

830
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon. Obviously they would also come in and guess what,

831
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: they would know his system, they would know his culture,

832
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: they'd be able to model it for all the other players.

833
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: These are veteran guys who are highly respected. I could

834
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: definitely see that happening that there would be a couple

835
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: of key acquisitions from the Eagles that would a phil

836
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: a need on your depth chart, and then b would

837
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: sort of model that culture that Jonathan Gannon wants to instill.

838
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: Jonathan Bradberry, James Bradberry, James Jonathan Yeah, you need corners,

839
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: especially if Byron Murphy isn't coming back, you know, And

840
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: that's a total unknown at this point. I will say

841
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: on his on his Instagram story over the weekend, he

842
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: was out Buyer Murphy and posted of being somewhere. Basically

843
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: it looked like more like a restaurant. But you know

844
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: with bottle service, they bring the sign and it can

845
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: say whatever you want on it. And I wouldn't know either.

846
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm just just guessing. Um they have they have like

847
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: these like little Marquis signs they hold and they've got

848
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: like little fireworks coming off whatever, and you can tell

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Speaker 1: him to say whatever. He and his said free agent,

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Speaker 1: which makes me believe that he is going to test

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Speaker 1: the waters. Now, how likely is it he's going to

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Speaker 1: sign somewhere coming off for a year where he only

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Speaker 1: played how many games with his back injury? Of I

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Speaker 1: don't know what kind of deal you're going to get.

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Speaker 1: So maybe he ends up back with the Cardinals on

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Speaker 1: a prove it deal, but I would I would take

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Speaker 1: that as Buyer Murphy is probably going to test the waters.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking too, if he's got to take it'll

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Speaker 1: be like a Hassan Reddick one year prove it deal.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather go prove it somewhere else than prove it

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Speaker 1: to the team. You feel like you've already proven it too.

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Speaker 1: So if he does a one year deal, I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: it would be elsewhere, maybe Denver, Vans, Vans Joseph possible.

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Speaker 1: I could see that they're loaded in the secondary, though

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Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have personnel issues, but yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: could absolutely see that. So, um, you know, but other

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Speaker 1: than that, look and then a receiver. If DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: is on another team, then you obviously have to make

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Speaker 1: some additions and bolster the receiver spot. But I think

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Speaker 1: that was gonna I think to a certain degree, you

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Speaker 1: have you have Antoine Wesley is a an exclusive what

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Speaker 1: is he He's restricted? Restricted free agent? You have If

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Speaker 1: you don't have Hopkins, you have no hype. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say that you need someone for those contested balls.

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Speaker 1: They need to start getting some size in the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room, which I would assume is going to happen anyways,

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Speaker 1: just because they're shifting offensively from Cliff Kingsburth. All right,

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Speaker 1: I think our work here is done. I mean, anything else,

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Speaker 1: any other anecdotes. This time last week we spoke, you

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Speaker 1: guys were at the combine, but not even halfway into

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Speaker 1: your work week. So what else was newsworthy and noteworthy

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Speaker 1: over those final three days of them? Big? I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I'm thinking of when you say what

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Speaker 1: else is like when we're when we convene next week,

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Speaker 1: it's we're gonna be right on the precipice of the

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Speaker 1: newly year, because it'll be Wednesday at one o'clock Arizona time.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget. The clocks change for everybody this weekend, this weekend,

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Speaker 1: this weekend, not us, not us, but we will now

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Speaker 1: be on Pacific time. That see I do. But whatever,

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Speaker 1: so wait, whatever we're gonna spring. Oh no, we don't change,

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Speaker 1: don't change. But the rest is so. But you know, now,

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Speaker 1: Danny's probably going out of state for her birthday palooza,

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna lose an hour whatever destination you're going outside,

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Speaker 1: but she will have bottle service. I wish god. I'm

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Speaker 1: not buying that for myself. If somebody you don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to put that offer out on the podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't do that. I bet you somebody somebody in

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Speaker 1: the girls room will pony out. I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: it's not cheap. But if you guys are interested, if

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Speaker 1: you guys would like to, if you guys would like

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Speaker 1: to join us on Saturday, where are you going? I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to tell you over the podcast. Oh that's

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Speaker 1: a good point, Darren was going to ask, what if

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Speaker 1: the two of you came out. I thought on Saturday

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Speaker 1: for my birthday, I might splurging a bottle service because

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Speaker 1: we're also celebrating Kyle Deroni, our our videographer, producer editor.

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Speaker 1: His birthday is next week and mind's over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: So we're doing like goodness gracious with our friends. But

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Speaker 1: if the two of you came I would honestly, very

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Speaker 1: highly consider splurging on bottle services. How many of your

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Speaker 1: friends do I know? A good amount, I would think.

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Speaker 1: So you are my friend. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that day you always have. Lockman, you're tell me,

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Speaker 1: you're tell me on the expense report that you two

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Speaker 1: filed from Indianapolis in the combine. There was no bottle

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Speaker 1: service buried in there somewhere. You're sure, you're sure there

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Speaker 1: was not anywhere podcast, I don't know there's anywhere downtown

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Speaker 1: any minute. That's a good point. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know the different vibe. We were not going to

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Speaker 1: Prime forty seven where everybody else. If you see a

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Speaker 1: sign with pyrotechnics coming off it and it says happy

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Speaker 1: Birthday this weekend, that belongs to Danny Serek, and that'll

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Speaker 1: do it for Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific

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