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Speaker 2: live edition of Dodgers Territory on this Thursday afternoon, the

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Speaker 2: day after your Los Angeles Dodgers have become the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four World Series champions, taking a four to one

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Speaker 2: advantage over the New York Yankees, bringing home the championship

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Speaker 3: I'm Alana Rizzo, that is Clint Pisias, Thanks so much

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Speaker 3: for being here. Please rate us five stars, like and

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Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts. And before we go any further,

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Speaker 3: let us welcome in our very special guests, the nineteen

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Speaker 4: Orland is always good to see you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you doing this because I know you've been

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Speaker 3: what that was like for you. To be a World

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Speaker 3: You know, the eighty eight team World you know better

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know exact correlations, but weaknesses became strengths.

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Speaker 3: I'm so incredibly grateful for the friendship that we've created.

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Speaker 1: came from. That he brought so much love and so

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Speaker 1: many people to baseball, and he continued to do that

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Speaker 1: throughout his whole life. You know, he had a wicked

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Speaker 1: sense of humor, very dry but also very slapstick, like

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Speaker 1: a child. At times he was quiet and shy, and

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Speaker 1: then he was rash and fun and he would poke

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Speaker 1: you on the golf course. You would give him a

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Speaker 1: three foot putt and then you'd have a one footer

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Speaker 1: and he'd go market and You're like, I gave you

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Speaker 1: a three footer on the last hole and he'd go, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you need you need to make that, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? And he would then just smile

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Speaker 1: at you like I got you, and I would just

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Speaker 1: pick up my ball and go to the next tea.

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Speaker 1: But I mean we did all kinds of stuff. I

447
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Speaker 1: have an iconic photo of me, Sandy Kofax, and Fernando

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Speaker 1: walking off the green. I think John Sue who or

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Speaker 1: somebody who's following us around as we're playing golf in

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Speaker 1: Vero Beach and it just so many memories. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we played hacky Sack in the back clubhouse. He'd last

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Speaker 1: suit your your foot and trip you with his combuacho

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Speaker 1: rope and he'd tap you on the tap you on

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Speaker 1: the wrong shoulder. He'd you know, he'd do all kinds

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Speaker 1: of stuff. He'd tell you he didn't want to go

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Speaker 1: to dinner, and then he would show up at the

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Speaker 1: same restaurant at the exact preservation some time and go

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Speaker 1: where's my chair, and all kinds of stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was just he was very very special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly on the Mount Rushmore of Dodgers Baseball, you're

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Speaker 3: on there, as well orlhursheis are always a pleasure. Can't

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Speaker 3: tell you how much we appreciate you taking the time

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Speaker 3: to be with us on Dodgers' territory. Love you, enjoy

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Speaker 3: the parade tomorrow. Congratulations and please give everybody there our best.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you very much. Bulldog.

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Speaker 1: All right, you guys, have a great day. Great rest

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Speaker 1: of your day. Clint, do not rip on Dave Roberts

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Speaker 1: ever again. Dolana, I know you will support us in

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Speaker 1: every place you are.

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Speaker 4: That's right, all right.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you talk soon, all right, all right, olhershais

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Speaker 3: are always the best.

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Speaker 1: Time.

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Speaker 4: Now for last lists.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, all right, guys, Let's introduce you to

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Speaker 3: not a bulldog, but Chloe.

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Speaker 4: This is a.

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Speaker 3: Golden Retriever Lab mix. Chloe is a good girl looking

479
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Speaker 3: for her forever home. She'd probably be best with a

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Speaker 3: little bit older kids, not like you know, little young

481
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Speaker 3: kids that are crawling all over the place. But you

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Speaker 3: know she likes to stay to herself, kind of do

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Speaker 3: her own thing. She's very sweet, very calm, just needs

484
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Speaker 3: a needs a forever home and a place to lay

485
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Speaker 3: her head. If she interests you at all, please reach

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Speaker 3: out to Gidrisguardian dot org and find out more about her.

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Speaker 4: So you can go ahead and adopt this baby girl.

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Speaker 3: We also want to say thank you so much to

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Speaker 3: Baseballism for being a part of our show throughout the season.

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Speaker 4: Of course Dodger's territory.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you being here, Baseball the lifestyle, the Baseball

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Speaker 3: Lifestyle brand of a Medica.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys very much.

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Speaker 3: All right, Clinton, what is your thought for the road

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Speaker 3: as we you know, kind of wrap up the show here.

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Speaker 5: Well, one, thank you to the Bulldog for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Always love talking to Oral Herscheizer. You know I've talked

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Speaker 5: before about and now with the loss of Fernando, losing

499
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Speaker 5: that connection to the path with this organization and how

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00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: important for for decades it was in Dodger Baseball. You

501
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 5: knew the last guy, you knew the last generation, whether

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00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 5: it's Sandy Kofax, uh you know, Duke Duke Snyder hanging

503
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 5: around for so long, uh, Don Newcomb, and you know

504
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Speaker 5: up now through Bulldog, uh No, mare Garcia Para, you know,

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Speaker 5: James Loni, all these people. You got to have that

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Speaker 5: connective tissue to the past. And there are a few

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Speaker 5: better there are no better than Oral Herscheiser when it

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Speaker 5: comes to that. But flipping it forward now, talking about

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Speaker 5: what we witnessed last night, World Series Championship. Your Dodgers

510
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Speaker 5: getting that parade, My god, that's it's a fun time.

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Speaker 5: It's a fun time to be a Dodger fan. And

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Speaker 5: you know, there's so many things you want to look

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Speaker 5: forward to, you want to talk about. Uh, you know,

514
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 5: re signed Taskar Hernandez as soon as possible. Yeah, give

515
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Speaker 5: give Tommy Headman an extension. Walker Bueler, please stay home,

516
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 5: come home. We got money for you, Bud somewhere. Listen.

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Speaker 5: We got plenty of offseason to talk about. That we

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Speaker 5: need to talk about for a second. More so, Freddie Freeman,

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00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 5: how this dude the injury putting this team on his back?

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Speaker 5: So many guys, I think that's that's a big thread

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Speaker 5: for this this World Series. So many guys stepping up

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Speaker 5: in the moment, putting their teammates on their back. And

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Speaker 5: there wasn't one guy. It wasn't like twenty with Corey

524
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: Seger going off and chances are of Corey doesn't do that.

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Speaker 5: The Dodgers don't get that far in the World Series.

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Speaker 5: It was everybody it was everybody. And it's like I've said,

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Speaker 5: a few times, it's gonna be sad to not see

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Speaker 5: this team playing baseball, but we know they're gonna be

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Speaker 5: around for the rest of our lives.

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Speaker 4: Like the core is there, right, the core group is there.

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Speaker 4: They're coming back, which is great.

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Speaker 3: And just think about the fact that this team is

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Speaker 3: going to get a lot healthier, you know what I mean.

534
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Speaker 3: Clayton Gersher already said he's coming back. We don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's gonna be with the Dodgers. I would imagine

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Speaker 3: it would be. I can't imagine Clayton going anywhere else

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Speaker 3: other than LA but you would figure that glasnow is

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Speaker 3: going to be healthy for the most part. You figure

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Speaker 3: you're going to get Dustin mayback, You're gonna get Tony

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Speaker 3: Gonsolin back, You're going to get some key pieces back

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Speaker 3: to the Dodgers' bullpen. And for the most part, the

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Speaker 3: core is there. We got Shohy, who, by the way,

543
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Speaker 3: told Andrew Friedman nine more to go because he has

544
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Speaker 3: a ten year contract nine more so he thinks it's

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Speaker 3: that easy, right, So you just get to be a

546
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Speaker 3: Dodger for the first time, and you're already winning a

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Speaker 3: World Series Championship.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, we got Mookie Betts for the long term. We

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Speaker 4: have Freddy Freeman for the long term.

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Speaker 3: I has said that the first order of business after

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Speaker 3: they do the parade is to extend to you like

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Speaker 3: that's that's number one priority. Walkerbueler again, big game player,

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Speaker 3: that's who you want obviously in your rotation. So this

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Speaker 3: team has the capabilities and the possibility of just being

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Speaker 3: even better than they were this year, if that's even possible.

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Speaker 3: So that's exciting to think. Yeah, Freddy Freeman is the

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00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: easiest person on the planet to cheer for. He's the

558
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: easiest person on the planet to root for. I'm incredibly

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Speaker 3: grateful that he decided to come to LA I'm glad

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Speaker 3: that the Atlanta barad has decided that, you know, they

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Speaker 3: wanted to go a different direction.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for that super chat.

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00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: We appreciate that number fifty five and twenty three need

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00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: to be the next numbers retired.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 3: But before we look on to next season, let's just

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Speaker 3: enjoy the fact that we are World Series champions. Yes,

568
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: we will be doing off season shows. We appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Stay with us on Dodgers' territory all throughout the off season.

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Speaker 3: We're not going anywhere. Clint, what is coming up? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Anthony? What's up?

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Speaker 3: I alternated between a Mookie and herscheiser jersey all throughout

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, every strong pitching outing, I was rocking the bulldog.

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Speaker 3: Good job, Anthony, good job Clint.

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Speaker 4: What's coming up? On all Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: I think we're going live tonight. I'm not one hundred

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Speaker 5: percent certain if I've decided that or not, but I

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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 5: think there's a reason to celebrate. I know people really

579
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Speaker 5: want to start spinning forward already and looking at at

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Speaker 5: next season or looking at this off season.

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Speaker 4: Joy today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet, guys.

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Speaker 5: I really want to soak this one in. You know,

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Speaker 5: I joked last night, like we did it. You know,

585
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 5: they won this World Series because of us. But you know,

586
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 5: that's the life of being a baseball fan, a sports fan.

587
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 5: You feel like you're part of the team. And I

588
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Speaker 5: want to enjoy this as much as the players deserve.

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00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: I think we all as fans deserve to enjoy this

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Speaker 5: the way these players get to. Yeah, they get to

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Speaker 5: enjoy it a whole hell of a lot more so

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Speaker 5: if I am live tonight, it will be at six

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Speaker 5: pm Pacific time, and we'll be talking more about your Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: I do want to throw on one more super chat

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Speaker 5: from my friend Katie who pops in always send in love.

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Speaker 5: Happy world series win, Buddy, Happy world series win to

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00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 5: all of us great great Dodgers fans. This is fun.

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Speaker 5: Soak it up.

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Speaker 1: Gang.

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Speaker 5: It was a tough one. It was a tough one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Before we say goodbye, though, I want to say happy

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Speaker 3: birthday to our producer, Sarah. Happy, Happy, Happy twenty third

604
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: birthday to Sarah. We're happy that she's with us along

605
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Speaker 3: this crazy ride. We appreciate all that you do. And

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00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: to you guys out there that have listened to us

607
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: and watched us all season long, we appreciate you very much.

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00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: Like we said, we will have off season shows, but

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00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: if you can and you like what we do, please

610
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: subscribe like Greatest five Stars, tell all your friends about it,

611
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: and just remember that you are a fan of the

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00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: world Series Champion Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Clint and I will be back with you on Monday.

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Speaker 1: O Dodgers, Oh Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: Okay, bye,