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Speaker 1: Free agent Tuesday or hell, you maybe listening to this

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I'm recording this on a Monday. Your boy

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Speaker 1: John Middlecock Three and Out podcast, Colin Cowards podcast network

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Speaker 1: going live right now. I'm in Los Angeles right now. Uh,

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Speaker 1: gonna be with Colin the next couple of days, but

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be on TV and Slash on

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Speaker 1: a show on Wednesday. Football free for all, right now,

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Speaker 1: what an amazing day. I mean, what a muscle flex

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Speaker 1: for the NFL. Basically, I saw my guy Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: tweet this did NFL free agencies a little better than

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Speaker 1: Baseball free agency? A lot goes on and we still

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Speaker 1: got as the recording of this, Levian Bell hasn't signed,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to go went on. I got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. Uh was that a bachelor

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Speaker 1: went down for Antonio Browns. Will have some just thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Gruden and the Raiders. A couple of moves by

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and the forty Niners. I thought we're pretty

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Speaker 1: interesting for various reasons and Nick Foles. Wow, I mean

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Speaker 1: when I saw you gotta be careful, you know, with

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Speaker 1: with these NFL contracts, when you see a number. You know,

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Speaker 1: in baseball or basketball, if you've got a four year,

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Speaker 1: eighty million dollar deal, you got a four year eighty

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Speaker 1: In football, you can throw up any number on the

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Speaker 1: ticker and you could give me three hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 1: but three million dollars of that three hundred million or guaranteed?

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Speaker 1: What what is that? That numbers just fluff. We'll find

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Speaker 1: out in the next couple of days what the true

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Speaker 1: really hard to kind of overreact to some of these

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Speaker 1: contracts because we just don't have the money and just

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Speaker 1: you know, a little behind the curtain, the money gets

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Speaker 1: out not from the team, The money gets out from

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Speaker 1: the agent, and the agent gives the totality of the

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Speaker 1: contract to these reporters. So when you read whatever, you know, fools,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to put out, hey, you got eighty eight

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Speaker 1: million and fifty million dollars guarantee, because that's a good deal.

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Speaker 1: But some of these contracts. Until you know what they

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Speaker 1: got guaranteed, it's hard to know. But let me start

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Speaker 1: with this. There's a reason I I've I've defended the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag. We act like the overreaction for player empowerment

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Speaker 1: is driving me nuts. I mean, these NFL players are

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Speaker 1: some guys kind of get screwed. I guess if you're

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Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent that is a really good player

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Speaker 1: that guy didn't make much money. But if you're a

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Speaker 1: franchise player, uh, it's not ideal, but it's not the

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Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. And I say it all

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Speaker 1: the time. The people that benefit most are the fans

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Speaker 1: ton of d ms, will get into the Middlecoff mail

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Speaker 1: You guys send me these d m s and go, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Bengal fan, I'm a Packer fan, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Buck fan, I'm a Niner fan. Whatever, And that's your

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Speaker 1: to go. So the franchise tag is very fan and

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Speaker 1: team friendly, and is it a little shitty for the player? Sure,

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Speaker 1: but as we just saw last year, Levian Bell turned

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Speaker 1: down fourteen and a half million, So am I gonna

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Speaker 1: cry for Levian? Fourteen and a half a million fully guaranteed?

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Speaker 1: And he'd been franchise the year before. And we'll see

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Speaker 1: as the recording of this he has not been signed.

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Speaker 1: But I do get do you know who wants to

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Speaker 1: just kind of a exercise on supply and demand. I've

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Speaker 1: the top ten teams. There's twenty two other teams. I

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Speaker 1: think when you add it all up, it was over

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Speaker 1: You know, when these guys today, Trent Brown has multiple

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Speaker 1: That's why they quote unquote get overpaid because they just

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Speaker 1: You know the reason Kirk Cousins got whatever it worked

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Speaker 1: out to be eighty four million dollars, you know, three

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Speaker 1: and I think everyone's freaking out, like, how could they

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Speaker 1: just nature of the business. If you ever hit free agency.

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Speaker 1: That's why these players and it's on them again. I'm

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Speaker 1: not one to think the free agency is treating these

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Speaker 1: But every once in a while, you know, the franchise

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Speaker 1: tagets rescinded, something happens like Levian Bell. But but the

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Speaker 1: bothered zero by them giving him more money. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: trade for him. Who cares about paying him? He's an

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Speaker 1: So in a vacuum, great deal. Then let's look at

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Speaker 1: John Gruden came in guns blazing, got rid of everyone.

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Speaker 1: It made no sense, I repeat no sense that John Gruden.

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis, the owner of the Raiders, did not allow

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Speaker 1: I got no problem with the Trent Brown signing. He's

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Speaker 1: He called Joel Siegal. It's the way business works. That

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Speaker 1: So is he fit to be an owner? I don't

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Speaker 1: also feel that everything he said last year. Colin talked

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Speaker 1: Guy Haberman Haberman in Middlecoff. I've been talking about it

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Speaker 1: but man, I that's a lot of cash. Now they

425
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Speaker 1: do know him, he's in the division. I was. I

426
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: missed my flight on Friday to go to spring training

427
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: and my buddies that were at the bachelor party. You

428
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: got to hang out with Rex Ryan and Rob Ryan

429
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: Robs on the um the Redskin staff. I would have

430
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: loved to pick his brain about some free agents, but

431
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: that that'll be interesting. They needed to splash, and Snyder

432
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: likes a splash. I I just don't know how it's

433
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: really gonna work. I get in theory liking the guy

434
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: and a blue chipper, and now they've got five Alabama

435
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: guys on the roster, But how's it gonna work when

436
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: they implement it. I I don't know this. This is

437
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: real time podcasting right here, texting with a buddy in

438
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: the league. Uh as I'm recording this about seven thirteen

439
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: news just breaks. It's hard to do a podcast because

440
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm like a radio show. You can kind of react

441
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: live if I record and then something happens. I mean,

442
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: it's just part of the deal. Especially this day. LaMarcus

443
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: Joyner just signed with the Raiders. And you know, some

444
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: of these players, when you watch much more casually like

445
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: I do now, I can't give you strengths and weaknesses

446
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: on all these guys. I know LaMarcus, I know some

447
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: things about him. I know he's a smaller player, and

448
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: texting with the buddies, it's like, you know, he's a

449
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: really instinctive cover guy, but he is really small. He's

450
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: like five eight. And I said, well, what's his deal? Like,

451
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: why are they let him walk? Because they did franchise him.

452
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: He's like, well, there there were some questions. He almost

453
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: quit football three years ago, and that's another thing. You're

454
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: paying huge money. You know. I talked about Growden earlier,

455
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: but he's like, uh, he's like Al Davis two point oh.

456
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: And then and then I just texted him, Uh, you know,

457
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: the Landing Collins deal is just nuts. And I I

458
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: know I talked about this earlier, but even he was like, nuts, bro,

459
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: that's insane, that's absolutely insane. But he did bring up

460
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: a good point is the safety market is moving away

461
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: from big guys. The Landing Collins will not the Washington Redskins,

462
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: but the Cam Chancellors. You know what The team I

463
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: grew up on was Merton Hanks and Tim McDonald. And

464
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 1: I got to know Tim McDonald when I worked at

465
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Speaker 1: Fresno State. Uh, He's just he was a monster. I

466
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: mean he was like a six three safety. I worked

467
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: with Lewis Riddick, also a safety in the NFL. Massive,

468
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: absolutely massive. Those safeties are kind of done. I mean,

469
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: safeties like five to five eleven playmakers. You've gotta be

470
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: able to cover. You gotta be able to check these

471
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Speaker 1: running backs out of the backfield. Uh. And that's I

472
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: think that's why these three down middle linebackers like Devin

473
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: White's gonna go on the top five or six. That's

474
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: why I thought ro Kwan Smith last year top five player.

475
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: They've never been more valuable running around and being able

476
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: to cover a three down middle linebacker. The days of

477
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I got to know a little bit. A friend would

478
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: be strong, but you know I could text him or

479
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: call him if I want. Bill Romanowski. Bill Romanowski was

480
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: an old school two down Mike played for like sixteenth

481
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: straight years. He never missed a game. I mean, one

482
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: of the toughest SLB s ever to in the NFL.

483
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Those type guys can't really play anymore. There's no spot

484
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: for him. I need ro Kuan Smith, I need Devin White,

485
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: I need Devin Bush, I I need you know, Bobby

486
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: Wagner's and Luke Keikleys and what Bowman and Willis were.

487
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: That that's the type guys everyone's looking for because what

488
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and vander esh look to be. You gotta

489
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: have those guys or you will get destroyed. Because all

490
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: these running backs can catch. You know, everyone has a

491
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: slot receiver. Teams got multiple tight ends. You've gotta be

492
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: able to cover, so you gotta pass, rush and cover.

493
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: Stopping the run is important at times, but how many

494
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: teams are truly going to rush the ball thirty five times?

495
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: At you five? Maybe? So it's it's fascinating time in

496
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: the league. Times are changing, and we'll just change with it.

497
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: One thing that I think this guy is finding out

498
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: and this whole to three minute rank could look like

499
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: terrible if by the time you're listening and this guy signed,

500
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: or even if he signed like his money's big. But

501
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: I think if you got a lot of money where

502
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: there was money out there for you, you sign and

503
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: you commit. Right now. It's happened all morning and I'm

504
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: still recording. This is like seven still happening. Where's Levian Bell?

505
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: Because you could argue, once Antonio Brown was kind of

506
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't a free agent, but once that domino fell

507
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: and everything started flying Monday morning, you could argue he

508
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: was the best free agent available. But he's a running back,

509
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: as my buddy in the league, just text me, injury

510
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: prone runner with character issues? Is he finding out right

511
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: now that what the NFL just saw? Also about Todd Gurley,

512
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: who was a higher character guy who the Rams had drafted,

513
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, had the team, the team that had originally

514
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: drafted him, stood by him and loves them. The Steelers

515
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: like not really feeling you. Is Levian Bell finding out

516
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: that the forty five million dollars that Todd Gurley got

517
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: guaranteed now kind of looks terrible because he's got arthritis.

518
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: That if you're a team in the league going, it

519
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: is so easy to find running backs. Last year, last yeah,

520
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay was last year in two thousand eighteen, undrafted

521
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: free agent makes the Pro Bowl. I'm gonna give Levian Bell.

522
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: I've said all along. I've had people in the league

523
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: that work with money for a living. That's what they do.

524
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: The money stuff that says they didn't think it was

525
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: gonna get thirty million dollars guaranteed sounds kind of crazy,

526
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: especially when you say that Gurly got forty five. But

527
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: now Girles forty five looks terrible because he's got arthritis.

528
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: And why does he have arthritis because he towards knee. Well,

529
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: Levian Bell has had a knee issue before. What if

530
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: he gets arthritis in a year or two, you'd be screwed. Now,

531
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Levian has never been fast like Girly. He's been more

532
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: instinctive and he's a great catcher of football. But so

533
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: it is todd But yet my point is there a

534
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: chance that these last twelve hours for Levian Bell have

535
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: been Holy shit? I am not gonna sniff the money

536
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: that I thought I was gonna get because, don't get

537
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: it twisted. He's fourteen and a half million dollars in

538
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: the hole. He's in the red right now, fourteen and

539
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: a half million dollars. So if he gets thirty million

540
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. He just left fourteen and a half on

541
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: the table. If you get forty five, I will tip

542
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: my hat and say I'm an idiot. I don't know

543
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I if I had to guess

544
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: right now, I think Levian's contract is going to be

545
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: eye opening, like twenty six million dollars guaranteed, just something

546
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: like whoa, A four year forty million just basically like

547
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: a two year you know, two seasons at like thirteen

548
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: apiece that that That is my prediction right now. And

549
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: you know the player empowerment Twitter mob. This is a

550
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: guy that suspended twice. I I just whoa. You know,

551
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: it's finding that the market because as we've seen, you're

552
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: a good offensive tackle. Boom sixty million dollars. You can

553
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: cover Boom huge money. You can pass rush a little bit,

554
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: Boom huge money, or franchise Levian bell elite runner crickets. Also,

555
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: you know he's he's pretty tired. He carried the ball

556
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: three fifty times last year. Nope, took the season off fresh.

557
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: What's going on? I'll tell you conspiracy theory metal cough.

558
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: Levian was given some of the offers that he got

559
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: today and was like, oh my god, I should have

560
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: taken that fourteen and a half million dollars. It's not

561
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: like I was saying during fall camp, he's a moron

562
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: if he holds out sign the franchise tag and play

563
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: under the fourteen and a half million dollars. Even if

564
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: your career would have ended, you would have made almost

565
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: twenty seven million dollars in two years. I do not

566
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: think you're gonna make twenties seven million dollars on this deal.

567
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Levy on potentially again, I could this could be old

568
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: takes exposed, big loser in free agency. Okay, let's get

569
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: to the Middlecoff mail bag. You know the cool thing

570
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: about football is there a multiple ways to do it.

571
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: You see how he Roseman today coming out swinging, gets

572
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: some Malik Jackson trades. You know, a bag of footballs

573
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: for DeShawn to get him back in the mix. You

574
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: see Belichick just let's sweet players walk. And both those

575
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: two teams are always in the playoffs. Obviously the Patriots

576
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: are better, but right, I mean, the Eagles had beat

577
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: him last year. But my point is that how he

578
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: bills I'd say the best if you had I mean,

579
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: clearly the total package, coach GM, the whole thing. How

580
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: he's really established himself since getting rid of that Chip Kelly,

581
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: who not quite true he knows what he's doing, then

582
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: how he knows what he's doing and how he and

583
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: I've been around it hangs his hat on aggression, where

584
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: Belichick just kind of hangs his hat on sitting in

585
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: the weeds. Now, you never know. At any moment, something

586
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: crazy could happen with the Pats, like a trade. But

587
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: they never signed really big free agents. The one they

588
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: did the last couple of years was Gilmore who became

589
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: an All Pro. Uh, my buddy just text me in

590
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: the league that said, because I said that Ken to

591
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: Shawn still play, and he said, yeah, I mean I

592
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: watched him a little bit this year. He made some

593
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: big plays. But you never know when you get an

594
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: older guy. But my buddy in the league just his

595
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: response just said they could become scary if they can

596
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: keep on the field. Okay, let's get middlecoff mail bag.

597
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fire ask some questions. Is there a snowball's

598
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: chance in hell the Bears could sign Levian Bell? He

599
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: seems like he'd be an awesome fit as the running

600
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: back in Naggie system, he would, and everything I read

601
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: points to Howard being on his way out of town.

602
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: I'd have to check the cap numbers. I think at

603
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're just gonna be able

604
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: to get like I just said, Levian Bell for cheap.

605
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: He makes a lot of sense in that offense. Think

606
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: how much he would help Mr Bisky someone to dumped

607
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: the ball off to someone to consistently hand the ball

608
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: off to Having a one two combination of him and

609
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: Cohen would be a pretty dynamic little, you know deal,

610
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: And you could trade Howard probably get a fourth I'd

611
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: say third, but he's a running back going into his

612
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: third year, so he's a year away from being paid.

613
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: I guess two years away from being paid. But yeah,

614
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: I think they could get a decent return for Howard.

615
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy though, doesn't when you say

616
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Levi on Bell, do you think the Bears in their

617
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: culture not that there? You know? I don't know. It's

618
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm hard pressed what what I think of the players.

619
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Paces brought in, Khalil Mack, Drabinsky, Cone Uh, the

620
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: type guys. They've liked, Eddie Jackson, they've paid Fuller ro

621
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: Quan Smith. They don't have many questionable character guys around.

622
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Kiem Hicks a little crazy, but he's they

623
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: like him in the building. I'm trying to think of

624
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: their I think their roster's pretty high level. Now, you

625
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: could also argue, you know, you're not winning super Bowls

626
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: with a team full acquired boys. You know, Khalil Mack

627
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: is a badass, but he's not LT you know. And

628
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you even need lt s. But as

629
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Moose Johnson once told me on my radio show back

630
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: in the day, he said, you need two things. You

631
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: need players of character and characters that can play. Now,

632
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: they had pretty unique team in the Cowboys in the

633
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: mid nineties, but you need a couple of nut jobs

634
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: and soef Levian Bell. Maybe you can get him motivated,

635
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: Maybe get him on a one year deal. Maybe get

636
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: him on a one year, fifteen million dollar deal. How

637
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: dumb would he look if that's what it takes. Question

638
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: on the Giants, what are the chances they try and

639
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: nab Josh Rosen if he becomes available. Would it be

640
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: a good fit in Pat Schirmer's offense? To me, if

641
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: they're able to trade for if they're if they trade

642
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Let's say the Niners get Odell Beckham and

643
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: then they do something with two and the Niners given

644
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: them their second round pick, which is thirty six, So

645
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: the Giants would have two high second round picks. Why

646
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't you trade one of those for Josh Rosen? Then

647
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: you would have you might have Nick Bosa. You get

648
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: a sweet second round pick that you can draft whoever

649
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: you want, and you get Bosa, I mean, and you

650
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: get Rosen. To me, why would they not be all

651
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: over Josh Rosen? To me, Denver and the Giants should

652
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: be all over Josh Rosen. Now again, he might not

653
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: be on the trade block. I've been saying over and

654
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: over and over and over again that I think Kyler

655
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: Murray is gonna be a Cardinal. But if Josh Rosen

656
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: just keep snaying on the Cardinals, then maybe Kyler Murray

657
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: is not gonna be on the or I mean maybe, yeah,

658
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: maybe Josh Rosen is gonna be their quarterback. I think

659
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna get traded, but I feel a little less confident.

660
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: You would have thought maybe something today. Maybe they're waiting

661
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Draft day. Uh, I'm watching Hollywood Brown Let's see what

662
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: this says. Hey, Holley would come and right, Holley will

663
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: come into I can't say that he can't so Antonio.

664
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Someone sent me this is UH. This is UH on Instagram.

665
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Someone forwarded me. Okay, let me let me replay this again.

666
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: See if I can is Antonio Brown, Hey, Hollywood come in? Right,

667
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Holly would come into Uh. I can't say that any

668
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean Hollywood Brown to the Raiders with his cousin,

669
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown be kind of fun. That would be sweet.

670
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: You know, he can say that he thinks John Gruden

671
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: said they're gonna draft his cousin, But he can also

672
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Hollywood Brown just might not be available when

673
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: they draft. As a Niner fan, I want to know

674
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: why you are so in favor of them trading for

675
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: Rodell Beckham. He's obviously one of the best receivers in

676
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: the game went healthy, but it's only played sixteen games

677
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: in the past two seasons and also has a big

678
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: ego that might not sit well with the locker room. Obviously,

679
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: there's a huge need a wide receiver, but I want

680
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: to know why you think it's worth to give up

681
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: so much and pay him. Well, he's aren't bullet paid.

682
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: But I know what you're saying when they're more than

683
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: one player away. Well, selfishly, I mean I talked about

684
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: the Niners for a living. He would add a lot,

685
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: So I full disclosure, I am somewhat biased that he's

686
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: good for my business. I also think that he was

687
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: talking to friends in the league. And I've always thought

688
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: this about O'Dell that again, that there is an inherent

689
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: risk because he gets hurt. But when he's healthy, he

690
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: is as dynamic of a player and as dynamic of

691
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: a playmaker as there is in the NFL. Like he

692
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: dominates the year when they got on the boat in

693
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Miami and got crushed for it, he was unstoppable, Like

694
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: he is a eat weapon. He's only twenty six, He's

695
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: never played with a good quarterback. Yeah, I gotta overpay

696
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: for him, but if he can give me three or four,

697
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, all pro type seasons, which I'd be betting on,

698
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: which is a risk. I mean everything in this league

699
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: is a risk. Trading for Khalil Mack is about as

700
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: low risk as you'll get. Most times, when you trade

701
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: a lot, it's risky. You know, Belichick traded a one

702
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: for Brandon Cooks with risky. Now he's so good he

703
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: flipped him for a one. But you know, Percy Hart

704
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: traded for Percy Harvin. I don't think O'Dell's Percy Harvin

705
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: or Jimmy Graham. I mean, guys get hurt. Yeah, it's

706
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: it's risk, but part of it is he brings a

707
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: dynamic element immediately to the team that I know. Kyle

708
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: can get guys to overachieve. I know he can scheme

709
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: the run game. They already got George Kittle. That way,

710
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I can get Odell Beckham and then maybe I can

711
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: go sign some other receiver or trade for another guy.

712
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you need a number one in

713
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: this league, like you need a dude. They got a

714
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: dude in George Kittle, but you need a dude on

715
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: the outside. Just look at all the good teams. They

716
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: all have guys you know and say what you know

717
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots don't want Yeah, I mean Gronk and Edelman

718
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: are damn they're a championship level players. When ship hits

719
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: the fan, you know, look at the Look at the Chiefs.

720
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean they got Tyreek Hill. He's unstoppable. So I'm

721
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: just a big believer in I I don't think the

722
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: receiver position, and I know there's been cowards thing forever

723
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: is as overrated as it once was because of the rules.

724
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: It's like having three point shooter or something. In basketball.

725
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: It used to be like I just need one. No,

726
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: you better have like four or five now and if

727
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: you've got if you've got one or two of the

728
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: best ones, you're gonna kick ass and take names. If

729
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: you've got Antonio Brown, Like listen, Antonio Brown has been

730
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: the best player on that team for the last like

731
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: four years. What have they done. They've won a lot

732
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: because he dominates rain Shine snow, He kicks ass, and

733
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: he takes names. What does Julio do? Julio kicks ass

734
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: and take names like the top got Davante Adams every week.

735
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: Now you need more than that on your team obviously

736
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: to win. You know, Davantae Adams, Julio, two guys that

737
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: a huge seasons Last year with the teams weren't very good.

738
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: Sure it wasn't their fault that that was the problem. Obviously,

739
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: the Packers couldn't run the ball, they didn't have any

740
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: other receivers. Rogers wasn't playing that well. Even though stats

741
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: look decent, but yeah, I'm just I'm an Odell guy.

742
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: I've liked him since college. I'm not you know, I'm

743
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: not disputing that it's a really expensive endeavor if you

744
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: are gonna, you know, trade for him, because there is

745
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: a chance, and I think some would think the Niners

746
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: are nuts? Would you get picked two up for him?

747
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: Would you do that? Straight up? Pick two for Odell

748
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: Beckham with the Giants? Do it? Maybe not? But would

749
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: they think about it? What about like pick two and

750
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: next year's too? You know, so pick two in the draft,

751
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: so basically here's Nick Bosa, you get picked two and

752
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: six and we get to keep our second rounder, but

753
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: you get our second next year? Would they do that?

754
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Would the Niners do that? That would be risky and

755
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of pressure on O'Dell. But I

756
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: I do know this, like the pressure that comes getting

757
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: traded for a pick like that, I think he's a

758
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: type guy that can handle it. And here's the other thing.

759
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: I know he's good enough, Like I know when he's

760
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: on he he is as good as it gets. And

761
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: if I am gonna trade for a player that's gonna

762
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: cost me a shipload like Khalil Mack, he better be

763
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: a baller. Like that's why I didn't love the Rams

764
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: trading to one last year for Brandon Cooks. If I

765
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna trade a one for a player, he

766
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: better if he's not a baller, have the upside to

767
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: be the best. Khalil Mack was an easy trade. He

768
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: was already the best. Odell was a little more difficult

769
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: because of the injuries. I don't even think he's that

770
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: big of a diva. I think it's why I think

771
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: Eli just sucks. Hey, John, you brought up Jordan Palmer

772
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: on the last pot and I was curious, how much

773
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: money do you think he makes prepping for the draft?

774
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: He usually works with the top guys. Probably pretty decent

775
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: coin to only work a few months. Verst grinding the

776
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: quarterback coach in the NFL. NFL team, thanks keep with

777
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: the great work. That's a good question. I honest have

778
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: no clue. Um. Maybe each guy's agent. I mean, actually

779
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: it's the guy end up paying. The agent gives him

780
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: twenty five grand. So if he gets four guys, that's

781
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred grand? Is that? Yeah? Quarter? Yeah?

782
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Hunter Grand and maybe Josh Allen and I know Sam

783
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Donald a working Maybe they kick in another twenty grand,

784
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: So Boom gets a hundred twenty grand right there for

785
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: three months of work and then works with him in

786
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: the summer. Maybe he charges him thirty grand every day. Right,

787
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a question. Maybe I'm high, maybe

788
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: I'm low. I don't have a great answer for that,

789
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: because it's that's a hell of a question. I know

790
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: the guy's training people for the forty get like grand,

791
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: so why would he get He's a quarterback coach, and

792
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: especially if Sam Donald and Josh Allen swear by him.

793
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, maybe maybe it makes like a hundred fifty

794
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: grand for three or four months a week or I

795
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: mean a month or three or four months a year. Really,

796
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: you got the off season O t A starting like

797
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: three weeks, so they'll be gone now the college guys won't,

798
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: but they'll be flying around the country to meet with

799
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: all these teams. So if you could bake a hundred

800
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: fifty grand just work a couple of months a year, shit,

801
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: maybe I need to be Jordan Palmer's manager. See if

802
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: I have any new questions, I think that might be it.

803
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: Someone someone asked me this, if the Titans offered the

804
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: Giants their nine pick Jack Conklin and a two thousand,

805
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: twenty pick for Odell. Would the Giants be interested? I

806
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: think the Giants are probably getting just some fantastic offers

807
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: for Odell, like a one A player next year's too,

808
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: just some offers that are making them think. Now that

809
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: that's where I get back to the Niners, Like they

810
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: do have the trump card, like here's pick two, here's

811
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: pick two, and I mean if this would be bold,

812
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: but here's pick two and pick thirty six. I mean,

813
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: how would the Giants turn that down? Would the Niners

814
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: kind of get crushed for that? Maybe a little? I

815
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: would support it, but I'd also admit as as a

816
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: bulld move cotton, you know, just pick two and thirty six.

817
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: That's a lot of amma. That means the Giants would

818
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: have picked two, pick six, pick thirty six and whatever

819
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: their second round pick is, pick forty or something. They

820
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: have a lot like that that that wouldn't be that nuts.

821
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: Now O'Dell went in the top fifteen. He then was

822
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: a max receiver, So yeah, I think teams are offering

823
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't teams and the you know, the Titans, some

824
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: of those teams in the first round, like the Houston Texans. Uh,

825
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, go all in, just go. We're gonna get

826
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: Odell with DeAndre. The Colts, here's here's our one, here's

827
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: our one, and one of our two's because they got

828
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: two twos because of the Jets twos from last year,

829
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: the same Donald trade. I bet the Giants are getting

830
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: some offers that are just like damn. Now again, when

831
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: you have good players, if you go, this guy is available,

832
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: or we'll listen to his calls. Look at the right ters.

833
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: Last year there were like ten teams lined up to

834
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: give ones and twos and money and players. Just when

835
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: you have good players, and you'll be like, you know what,

836
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: I will trade Russell Wilson. Now the quarterbacks the bad,

837
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: bad example, because everyone trade for a quarterback. But like,

838
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: if the Texans anyone want DeAndre Hopkins, people be like, uh.

839
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: If the Chiefs were like, anyone want Chris Jones, people like, uh,

840
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: anyone want the Bucks Mike Evans. You're just gonna get

841
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: big gass offers and you're gonna get a lot of

842
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: teams because there are only so many good players in

843
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: the NFL, like really really top end players, you know,

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Speaker 1: feel good about it? Probably not. That's what makes O'Dell

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Speaker 1: I mean I I think the Giants would listen to

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Speaker 1: Conkling a first and maybe next year second. That's a lot,

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Speaker 1: but you know, do the Titans need to roll the dice.

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Speaker 1: I do not think O'Dell would want to be a

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Speaker 1: Tennessee type though. Thanks for listening. Uh beyond be around

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Speaker 1: with I'll be with Colin tomorrow. I'm gonna go watch

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Speaker 1: on with him on Wednesday. So appreciate you. Listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcasts. Been a fun week. It's only getting started

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Speaker 1: by Friday. Will Ship Well, I'm sure we'll have a

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Speaker 1: it all. So talk to you later this week audio

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