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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: I had to check mister Lobo because for some reason,

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Speaker 2: I thought at one point you and I had chatted,

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Speaker 2: But I find no record of.

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Speaker 3: It at all, So I think I think we did too,

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Speaker 3: but it must have been in like a news feature

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Speaker 3: or something.

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Speaker 4: It's weird. Yeah, I know another another Mandela Effects choking

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Speaker 4: with you Me and Skidbath. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Mister Lobo is a regular guest here on Coast

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Speaker 2: to Coast AM.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I know him.

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Speaker 2: He's the host of Cinema Insomnia. I was looking at

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Speaker 2: some of your YouTube videos getting ready for our conversation tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well honored for being not just a fan of the

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Speaker 2: horror genre, but also one of those people that keeps

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Speaker 2: it alive with the humor zine and underground on comics

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Speaker 2: he's done, and with radio, theater and other things that

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Speaker 2: that I also obsess over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I look down your page. I looked everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Everybody seems to be ripping off the same the same lines.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's doing the same. But you know, I go for

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Speaker 2: word economy. I could write a haiku.

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Speaker 4: Uh your I want to hear I want to hear

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Speaker 4: this haiku.

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Speaker 3: Well before the end of the night. I will do that.

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Speaker 2: And I I take my haiku very seriously, so I

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Speaker 2: don't I could write a dirty limerick off the top

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Speaker 2: of my head that I don't think I would get

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Speaker 2: anybody anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Standards and practices, Ian standards in practices.

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Speaker 3: It is one of those been around. We don't we

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Speaker 3: don't have those coast to coast.

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Speaker 4: Never let me on it broadcast. Is we have a

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Speaker 4: higher standard.

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Speaker 3: That's true. So anyway, really like your work, and and

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Speaker 3: thank you for joining to come with us.

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Speaker 2: As we talk about and I think this is really important,

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Speaker 2: is as you are a fan of the of both

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Speaker 2: the cinema of horror.

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Speaker 3: But also just kind of the genre as a whold.

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Speaker 2: I know that you're probably very saddened by the fact

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Speaker 2: that so many great movies which were slated to be

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Speaker 2: released before the end of summer, which is typically when

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Speaker 2: a lot of the popcorn you know, drive in type

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Speaker 2: supplement that by going into my you know, contour at

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Speaker 2: I have the cock system where I can I can

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Speaker 3: These old movies.

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Speaker 2: So I'd love a top ten before we're done of

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Speaker 2: your movies that we could pull up and we could

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well there are I guess talk about

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of different genres too, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: My particular reb like, even though I'm best known as

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Speaker 4: my category are like late night misunderstood movies, you know,

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Speaker 3: I totally get it.

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Speaker 4: I love those movies that uh uh, well, we like

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Speaker 4: You know. I mean, like The Brain That Wouldn't Die.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think people are going to be widening

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Speaker 2: They're so much fun for the right person to be

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many of these movies.

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Speaker 4: I don't like crying in my horror movies.

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Speaker 2: I think you're are you now? You're on Roku too,

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Speaker 2: But this is you're the there's the perfect host for

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Speaker 2: It's the classic sequel retcon where you got to make

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Speaker 2: No, it does, and there's and so again I say,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't into the cannibal movies.

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Speaker 4: Course we're talking about movies like most of the Kronenberg movies, right,

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Speaker 4: That's an eighty year old movie, you know, seventy five

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Speaker 4: they have this lighte like you know, I mean, uh,

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I do think we should

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Speaker 2: take a moment to recognize that what we think of

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Speaker 2: is kitty fair today was not at the on the

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Speaker 2: weekend of its release, and it was fairly. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: call it literature, but they were artful films that carried

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Speaker 2: For example, the theme of anti Semitism, which is rife

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Speaker 2: in The Wolfman and and I don't mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: Made those movies had very serious themes in them, right.

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Speaker 4: Horror movies as a general in general had a stigma

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Speaker 4: time period that they came out. But yeah, the people

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Speaker 4: a lot of the horrors of World War One are

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Speaker 4: they were always being criticized for being illegitimate. But to

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Speaker 4: be honest, horror films had had a bad rap until

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Speaker 4: standpoint where it was, they were not thought of as

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Speaker 2: Right, But I think that I mean to speak to

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Speaker 2: a previous general of creature features. I think that that

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Speaker 3: And the idea of a late night horror, which is fun.

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Speaker 3: But it did.

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Speaker 2: It did it did to throw out the Baby with

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Speaker 2: model Well that's what I mean if you really look

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Speaker 2: at it, they parallel and they hired very very good

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Speaker 2: opposed to schlock actors which would have made the movie schlockier,

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Speaker 2: the Boris Karlovsabel Legosis, the Lon Chaney juniors.

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, it's a lot smarter. And even with

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Speaker 4: Roger Corman stuff, they almost had. They always had the

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Speaker 4: best people with the lowest budgets. They get the most

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Speaker 4: out of it that way. You can't you know, it's

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Speaker 4: you can't afford to make mistakes, you know, on that level.

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Speaker 4: So you know, you you get the best actors you

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