WEBVTT - Ep05 - Jeff Bridges / "Hell or High Water" 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.280 Welcome to Playback a Variety podcast. On today's show, we're 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.680 talking about an interesting theme running through a few female 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.800 performances this year and this week's release Deepwater Horizon. A 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.680 little bit later, I'll be talking to Heller high Water 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:50.559 Star Jeff Bridges. So stick around all right, everyone, I'm 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:55.440 here with Variety Deputy Chief Lieutenant Captain, Master of All 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.800 the Fish in the Ocean, All the Birds in the Sky, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.040 Deputy Awards and Features Editor Janelle Riley. Hey, how's it going. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.360 I nailed it? Um. We were just talking right before 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.480 we started recording here, and we literally were were not 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:11.760 just saying that a little trend that Janelle was picking 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.080 up on on some of the female performances this year. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.480 We're all of the supporting that you were talking about, um, 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:22.680 except for uh, Susan Surrandon, Yes, go ahead, and oh yeah. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.080 I was just now, I am not a parent. Um. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.600 I know you are a recent parent. Congratulations you kids 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:34.199 still alive well as I. But I was really struck 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.200 by how many performances this year um sort of centered 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.240 on or had the theme of motherhood in them. And 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.960 I don't want people to to think that I'm being 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.839 dismissive because like sometimes when you say you know actresses, 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.920 they only play mothers or girlfriends. But these are people 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:54.960 who are delivering heartbreaking, amazing performances that happened to be 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.760 tied to motherhood. Um, Nicole. The reason that came up 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:03.400 was because I just saw Lion and Nicole k I 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.200 think it's still crying. I think were we in the 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.520 same screen, were oh my gosh, Okay, Well, then I 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.640 apologize for the you probably heard for the last twenty 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.960 I was silently ugly crying. I was sure. I was 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.880 just like had my hand over my face, like nope, 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.040 I was saying, I want to start rating movies on 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.960 an ugly cry scale, like how many tears and how 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.160 much snod is pouring out of my nose? In line 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.400 would like tip the scale. It was a good cry 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.040 I want. I don't want to scare people away. It 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.800 really builds like naturally to that place to like you know, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.839 you you kind of know where the narratives is gonna 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.000 end up going. But even once it gets there, you're 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.400 just like, oh my god, this they did it really well. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.720 It's really well done, and uh, part of the reason 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.240 it works so well, as Nicole Kidman and what you 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.240 might be considered a small performance, but like, it's just 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:54.000 she is the face of love, the face of unconditional love, 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:59.640 and plays the adoptive mother of this um Indian child 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.240 who at age five was separated from his family, and um, 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.480 even just talking about it, I'm getting like emotional. Uh. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.640 And it reminded me of another one of my favorite performances, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.960 which was Michelle Williams and Manchester by the seat talk 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:16.080 about yeah she it's and again, um, I think Michell 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.000 was only in like a couple of scenes. Yeah, it's 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.720 like the Beatrice straight yea, and it just blows in 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.720 and that especially in that one scene and crushes it 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.600 and you're we walk away thinking about it. We talked 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.960 about that scene a few weeks ago, and I mentioned 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.280 earlier that um Amy Adams delivers two amazing performances this 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.520 year and then Nocturnal Animals end Arrival, and I think 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.280 that for a lead actress nomination, I am would lean 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.680 towards Arrival because you know, there's a lot about motherhood. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.400 She plays it so beautifully. It's very emotional. Um. And 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.400 then there's some smaller movies Molly Shannon and other people. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.080 It's quite wonderful Uh. Susan Sarandon and the Midler was 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.840 a big movie I loved. And they don't all have 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.560 to be good mothers. Naomi Harris also kind of a 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.720 small role. You know, I say this knowing there are 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.000 no such thing as small roles. Well, we talked about 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.840 that and specifically with her how she shot it over 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.160 three days, but the places she had to get to 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.080 within those three days on the schedule amazing. It is 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.920 an interesting little trend with these performances. Are your hormones 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.599 saying something to you? You know, oh good Lord, don't 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:22.480 even go there, but it is interesting, It is interesting. Uh. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.679 We were also going to talk today about some movies 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.359 that are floating around in September. You know, September seems 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.560 to be like this, I guess, for lack of a 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.080 better term, dumping ground right before the season. A lot 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.919 of people don't give these movies. They're fair shake, uh 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.000 for whatever reason. I mean, I feel like Black Mass 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.640 last year is a good example. This year in October, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.800 didn't you know it was September? It was September. It 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.760 was right after the festivals, which you know, I think 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.160 might have been part of the problem, the release date. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:53.359 But uh, Deepwater Horizon is coming out this week. Sorry 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.880 laughing because and I really like Black Mask too, so 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.039 I'm not just picking on you, but I just imagine 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:03.040 you like sit at home at night carving you. I talked, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.560 but that's gonna be fun fodder for all of my 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:10.520 fans exactly. Uh no, no, no, I I just think, uh, well, 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.320 I've talked to the people involved with the film, and 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.080 I think a few of them thought a different release 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.720 date might have been smarter. I think your your adoration 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.280 is refusal to let it go is actually quite adorable. Well, 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.840 you just see how they did with Gravity and Argo 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.880 and where they placed those movies this year. They've got 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.559 the accountant in that release slot, which is Beard. Who 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.680 does anyone know anything? I'm playing into the marketing? Who 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.400 is the accountant? What's going on with the accountant. I 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.560 haven't talked to a single person who's seen the movie neither, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.400 so I don't I don't know what's going on there. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.960 I really like Gavin O'Connor's work most of the time, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.320 and obviously I'm an affleck fan, so I'm very curious. Yeah, 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.680 me too. Well, Deep Water Horizon is uh the September 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.760 movie this year. That I think really stands out personally. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.720 I thought it was you know, I like Peterburg as 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.200 far as it goes fantastic. I think you can do 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.440 a lot of things really well. And this one's really interesting. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.200 I just mentioned this somewhere the other day. It has 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.920 a lot of his uh you know, his mentors, Michael Mann. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.040 They shared I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, they had 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.840 the office space up here. And because you know, like 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.400 Michael Mann is my least favorite filmmaker really, yeah, least favorite. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.440 Yeah that's a whole other podcast. Yeah, I guess so 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.719 well that, yeah, he's kind of his mentor and they 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.360 share an office space up on the West Olympic up 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.240 here actually, and uh, I think a lot of Michael 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.160 Mann is in this movie actually, right, like, especially in 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.520 the way it's edited and it's captures all these like 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.640 fleeting moments that kind of build towards the bigger mixture. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.719 But in general, you saw the movie, right, I did, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.159 and I think I think it's great. I think the 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.599 cast is fantastic. I think, um, Peter Berg, you know, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.760 he also made Lone Survivor, which was another movie that 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.680 I thought, you know, should have been in the Oscar 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.440 Race more outside of you know, sound editing or whatever 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.520 was nominated for. And first of all, Um, he just 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.480 seems to love to torture Mark Wahlberg. Martin Walhburg seems 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.200 to like it. Yeah. Well, he's really good at it, um, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.240 and he's assembled a great cast. I mean, Malcolm ches 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.560 in this hurt Russell, Malovich just playing like a Disney 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.760 villain and the best possible. Yes, I mean it as 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.320 a compliment a creole Disney villain. It's it's like he's 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.679 right out of Princess and the Frog or something. But 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.960 but he's really good and it really angry. The movie 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.600 angers you, yes, it does in the best way. And 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.640 it doesn't manipulate you to that point. It just tells 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.160 you what happened, shows you who said what, who acted how, 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:23.840 And at the end of it, if you're not piste 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.000 off at BP, then you don't have a pulse. It 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.520 was really fun to watch with an audience who was 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.760 so into it and reacting so much. And I spoke 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.920 to Kurt Russell afterwards and said, you know what, Um, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.760 when this oil spill happened, we all you know saw 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.640 in the news that it was the worst oil spill 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.040 in history. And you know, lots of animals were covered 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.600 in oil, But I literally did not even know there 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.160 were people over a hundred people on this oil rake. Yeah, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.560 and I didn't know that the event was just massive 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.600 is it was like the explosion and right down. I mean, 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.760 the thing just goes up in flames in such a 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.880 spectacular way in the film, and you're just riveted. And 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.560 you know, regarding the below the line nomination's Lone Survivor, God, 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.720 I think this deserves consideration too, because the way that's 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.640 part of the experience, it puts you on that thing, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.080 and the sound and the visual effects to an extent, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.960 it's all part of the part of the mixture that 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.400 that puts you there. And I like Burgo. I mean, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.600 going way back to the Runda. I love the Runda. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.120 I loved Um. I'm so I'm blanking on it. Very 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.280 Bad Things. Oh yeah, I shouldn't say loved. It disturbed 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.160 me in a very good way. We watched that right 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.920 before my bachelor party, not for like homework or anything. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.600 I swear it was just like, let's watch very Bad Things. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.960 But yeah, A huge fan of that movie. Um and 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.080 the performances he got out of I think it was 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.000 as a director, and um, you know he wanted Adam 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.400 Sandler in the Jeremy Piven roll. Yeah, which I think 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.920 would have been fascinating. I'm trying to picture it. I 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.480 wish you people could see Chris's condari face, because Piven 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.640 nails that he kind of slime well like back then, 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.400 especially like Judgment Night is. Yes, but that's I think 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.439 it's that. Um, Jeremy Heaven was great, but almost too 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.679 obvious a choice. Although the obvious choice doesn't mean, as 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.360 David Fincher said about Ben Affleck and Gone Girl, just 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.719 because it's obvious doesn't mean it's wrong, right totally. Well, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.840 maybe deep Water can get somewhere. It's a Lines of 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.560 Gate movie, and they've got a lot of movies this year. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.840 They've got another Peter Berg and Mark Wahlberg. I sort 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.920 of feel like Deepwater Horizon is sort of paving the way. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.120 It's made me really excited about Patriots Stand because again, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.720 Peterberg is dealing with a real life event. Pairing with 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:32.200 Mark Wahlberg. Um, I'm sure he'll put him through hell. Yeah, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.920 And I've really really I was always a fan of 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.240 Peterburg as an actor in Chicago. Hope oh yeah, yeah, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.520 Peter Peters. What was the speaking of Michael Man? What 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.800 was the movie he was in? The Michael Man movie Collateral. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.800 He played that cop in Collateral. Remember I love this 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.400 movie The Kingdom. Do you remember that? Yeah, Jamie Foxx. Yeah. Again. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.440 He makes these movies that I actually think should be 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.319 Oscar movies, and he's busy. He shoots a ton of commercials. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:57.920 Like I'm trying to get him on the podcast. Peter, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.440 if you're listening, I want you on the Podcas asked Man, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.960 I want to talk to you about Peter. If you're listening, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.240 I apologize for not like you Michael Mann. We should 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:10.679 have you interview about Michael Man specifically. What else are 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:15.240 we going to talk about today? We uh ah, right, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.360 But well, the New York Film Festival is starting this week. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.199 It's opening with Able du Vernes. They think they removed 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:27.040 the I think it's now just about essentially mass incarceration 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.160 in America and this loophole language in the thirteenth Amendment 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.600 that kind of makes it okay for slavery if you're 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.480 convicted of a crime. So she this is a documentary 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.720 she directed, and tal did it kind of on the 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.360 slide like she told She told me first about it 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.880 at our Power of Women event last year, and uh, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.320 I was like, I didn't know you were working on this. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.640 I think at the time she was going to try 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.160 to take it to Sundance or something. But it's opening 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.920 New York and that's a big deal actually for a 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.120 documentary to be opening New York, and uh, I don't 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.080 know that I can say much about the movie because 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.079 it's opening tomorrow. I do think it's amazing. I do 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.880 think documentaries that are amazing should be considered in the 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.040 Best Picture race has a documentary ever, because they can 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.319 so easily get a wise it in the documentary feature. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.400 But I would say the same about animated films, and 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:18.080 it's been Yea and thorn films, but they occasionally sneak in, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.600 especially with let's come on with these ten nominations, Well 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.439 now it's between five and ten, and I think that's 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:28.440 why we haven't seen an animated movie nominated, uh since 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.880 Toy Story three, which was the last year that I 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.880 didn't know that was nominated. They had ten nominations like 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.360 guaranteed at that time, and that's back when they would 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.600 force everyone to pick ten movies and rank them now 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.840 that everybody wants to rank five nomin He's like usual, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.240 So it's hard to get everybody, you know, enough people 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.439 putting an animated movie in their top five movies, I 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.400 guess is the logic as to why it hasn't happened 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.080 in the last three or four years. Toy Story three 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.160 was nominated for this picture. Sorry, I'm bad at my 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.800 job along Oh well up, oh god, you want to 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.760 see Ugly Tears? Show me the first fourteen minutes of up. Yeah, 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.599 that'll do it. But yeah, I just it would be 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.160 nice if movies like that, that are you know, a 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.640 certain form, that aren't immediately considered Best picture contenders should 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.240 be considered Best picture contenders if they capture the zeit 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.160 geis in a fantastic way. And I think that this 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.720 movie opening the New York Film Festival does that. Also, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.679 playing New York this week is our Next week is 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:26.000 going to be uh, twentieth Century Women, and then wrapping 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.480 it up as Lost City of Z, which I don't 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.640 even think will come out this year. I don't even 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.920 know this again, I am terrible at my John on 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.360 the New York has kept it kind of low key 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.079 this year. I mean they've got the Youngly movie. They're 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.120 gonna they're gonna, which I'm dying to hear anything about. Yeah, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:40.959 and they might not even do a screening in l 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.280 A because they got that's like a million dollar projector 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.440 or something. They need to run this high frame rate stuff. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.040 And I hope it's not like a hobbity look. Well, 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.439 that'll be It'll be different because it won't be the 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.040 whole movie. It'll be the battle scenes and it will 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.120 kind of set the tone in those scenes and you know, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.760 come back to the stadium where he's getting Oh so 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.079 it's okay, it's a little hyper alves maybe, Yeah, I 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.400 think that's going to be the deal. By the way, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.960 I was about to agree with you about your whole 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.520 spiel about documentaries making into the race, and I was 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.480 going to say, I agree with you one, it's my 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.760 work for this week. Riley has spoken. Well, we're gonna 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.520 wrap it up there. I'm talking to Jeff Bridges after this. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:24.320 By the way, stay tuned and how I water. We 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.080 talked about that. I think one of the first things 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.520 we don't think he really can get a nomination out 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.160 of that should feel like he could do. Yeah, I 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.560 mean he's we've talked about it. He just tears into 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.560 that role. So and any case, stick around for that. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:14:02.520 We'll be right back. Brother. I'm gonna get that money. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.320 They're going out their doors. You got a gun on 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.360 you all man, You're damn right. I got a gun 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.719 on me. You'll are gonna steal my gun too. When 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.000 you steel from you were sent from the bank. Well 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.719 you hear about these bank robberies. They get to have 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:18.520 some fun before they send you off to the rock 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:25.800 and chair. Yet one hunt left me having that been 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.280 a while three months bank breathing out her neck. Everybody 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:33.920 get on. You'll been here for a while long. That's watch. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.600 Bank getting rob has been robbing me for thirty years. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.840 These boys all exactly what they're doing. It's kind of 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:48.760 raised a certain amount. That's my dish, Toby. It's a 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:54.320 good thing he does more Dona very step of the way. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.680 Welcome back everyone. I'm here with Jeff Bridges, the dude himself, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.240 which I just actually read something that said you were 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.600 you were okay with just being called out as being 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:08.040 the dude for a whole generation. Thanks for being here, man, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:12.960 really appreciated. Uh, we're gonna talk about Hell or High Water, 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.920 which is a great film at the end of the summer. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.920 I think people were starved for a real movie at 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.960 the end of the summer frankly and responded in kind. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.040 But before we get there, I just wanted to backtrack 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.560 a couple of years here. I remember early November of 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.880 two thousand nine, Fox Searchlight had this little movie called 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:33.720 Crazy Heart. They weren't sure what they were going to 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.680 do with it, and they screened it, and I remember 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.040 the first thing I said I walked out of there, 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.160 I said, this is the I just saw the best 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.640 Actor Oscar winning performance. Sure enough. And then that was 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.120 like when a great experience that was. I hit such 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.760 a good time on that one for so many reasons. Yeah, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.200 I got to work with my dear friend t Bone 0:15:54.240 --> 0:16:00.760 Burnett and uh and this brilliant young director got Cooper 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.760 who since his loved by the way, Oh yeah, he 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:09.200 also wrote crazy Heart, and as you know, he's turned 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.400 out some pretty good movies since then. Yeah, that experience 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.280 of of winning that Oscar, I think so many people 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.040 really wanted that for you, and it was. It was 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.560 a great speech, dedicating it to Dad and everything. What 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.960 was it like being up on that stage, and that 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.480 was a dream I guess come true in a way. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.680 But no, not even come true. It just seemed like 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:34.320 a dream. I mean, you know, it was an out 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:39.280 of body experience, you know. Yeah, where do you keep it? Well, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.400 we're we just moved, so it's kind of I don't 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.600 know where it is, in a box somewhere right now. Yeah, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.960 well that's regarding that. Like I said, I was just 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.760 on the set of of Hostiles, his his new his Western, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.800 good shooting. I gotta get you in another Western. Yeah, 0:16:53.880 --> 0:17:00.160 I was over there making a movie recently called That 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:05.760 Mountain with Josh Brolin, and we all got together with 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.200 the other the other team, you know, Scott's movie being made, 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.040 and hung out a bit. It's great to see him there. Yeah. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.000 I just missed Ryan Bingham. He was coming in a 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:18.760 couple of days. Me too, I just missed him there too. Um, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.600 what do you think you think you and scottill worked 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.879 together again? By the way, I hope so anyway to 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.719 get you guys together again. Well, regarding Westerns, you know, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.760 Heller high Water is kind of a neo Western. I 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.320 guess you will. I think it gets to a point 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.160 where if there's Stetsons in West Texas involved. Then people 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.160 want to call it a contemporary Western, but this has 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:44.360 some of the tropes. You know. Uh. I loved watching 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.320 you in this movie because you seem to relish playing 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.959 the part, like you know, gut out, just chewing on 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.840 that accent, just like you look really comfortable in the role. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.200 And I'm just curious if is that a hard place 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.520 to get to where you're that comfortable in the skin 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:04.840 of a character. Well, it's always a challenge, you know, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.600 You're you're trying to find the tone of the movie. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.560 So everybody in the movie seems like they're in the 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:21.000 same world, you know, and uh, you know, starting out, uh, 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.600 I find I'm quite anxious before the first couple of 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.520 days of shooting because you're, you know, the guy isn't 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.520 um there yet until you've captured him on film. And 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.760 once you've captured him on film even one day, then 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.600 you can start to apply kind of more clay around this. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:43.720 You know, your initial armature there, and it helps terrifically 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:49.159 if you have a role model or you know, several Um. 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.040 I was very lucky to have Joaquin Jackson, who was 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.080 no longer with us, but was one of the most formidable, 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:02.679 you know, famous Texas Rangers of old time, really and 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:07.800 he was there helping me get it, get it right, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:13.680 as well as m Taylor Sheridan, the fellow who wrote 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:21.240 the script. His cousin, um Parnell McNamara, was a marshal 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.120 in Texas. And when I first read that script, I said, God, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:27.119 this this writer knows what he's talking about. It felt 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:32.560 so authetic, and I proved to be right because when 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.240 I met Taylor, turned out he grew up in Texas, 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:40.359 had this cousin who's uh, you know, a marshal and uh, 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.720 and so having those guys to talk to, Joaquin and 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:49.159 Parnell that helped tremendously. Yeah, and it's something I noticed 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.400 and a lot of your work, honestly, I I it's 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.360 obviously they're in the Big Lebowski. I see it. I'm 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:56.280 gonna talk to you later about the Contender. But it's 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.159 it's it's it's in that just this this quality of 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.720 feeling so confidab in the characters skin, and I feel 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.280 like it's got to be a hard thing to pull off. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.640 I mean, maybe it's just alchemy to you, and it's 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.600 part of the process and you're not thinking about that, 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.280 and as an analyzer, it's something I'm picking up on. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.679 But it's got to be a the kind of quality 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.960 to actors strive for. Yeah, yeah, sure is somebody else 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.320 I gotta mention, along with role models, especially plating anyone 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:26.119 from Texas, is my dear buddy Lloyd Catlett, who's my 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:30.160 stand in and I think we must hold the record 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:34.160 for actor and standing. We've done over seventy films together. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.320 We met on the Last Picture Show and he was 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.760 a young kid, a sixteen or something like that, Uh, 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:48.160 living in with your tall falls, and he's kind of 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.639 he's the thread through all of my movies, you know, 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:55.160 kind of a constant. So it's wonderful to have a 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.280 pal like that to go through all this stuff with. 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.520 You know. The socio political context of Heller high Water 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.879 is obviously fascinating, uh, very much of the moment and 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.879 the zeitgeist and dealing with banks kind of just banks 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.320 running people over essentially. Uh. And it's interesting too because 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.520 you've got this guy from Scotland comes in and directs 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.680 this movie with all these kind of American tropes and ideas, 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.199 working with David Mackenzie who directed Startup, What What How? 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:25.520 Did you find. Yeah, well, Uh, he was a big plus, 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.000 a big draw for me to come to the party 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.240 because I saw a start up and was so impressed 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:35.199 what with what he did with that story and with 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.600 very little money to pull it off, and you know what, 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.800 he did build all those great actors, the performances. And 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:46.520 I thought this would be a great marriage between Sheridan's 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:50.840 script and uh and David as director. I thought that 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.199 would be a wonderful team. And man, I thought it was. 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:58.000 David was so great. You know what I look for 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:05.280 from a direct or. Uh is was creating the kind 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.600 of the vibe for all of the actors and the 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.199 artists that he's assembled the cook you know what, what 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.440 kind of and he did something that was really terrific. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:19.560