1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Happy victory Monday, everybody. It's been a long time since 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: I've had a chance to say that, at least a 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: meetingful victory and welcome to Big Blue king Off Live 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: presented by Corps Light. I am John Schmulk were joined 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: by Lance Meadow taking your calls at two one four 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: or five one three. Hopefully some happy phone calls. Again, 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I haven't had those in a while. E there, probably 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: since the Giants drafted Barkley and a lot of people 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: were excited about that. But the Giants come out Lance 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: with a victory to twenty two in a victory over 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. The game UM a little closer than 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: probably not quite as close as the score might indicate. 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: The Giants. They go up to scores and and the 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Texans had kind of a you know, garbage time pre 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: event defense had a touchdown at the end of the game. UM, 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: but a solid victory against the team that was just 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: as desperate the Giants UM in their home opener. We 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be a tough matchup going in. 19 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: It was close, it was back and forth, but to me, 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: the difference was simple takeaways and red zone defense. Oh absolutely, 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: you got two takeaways from the Giants defense and also John, 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: the takeaways came when the Texans were knocking on the door. 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: That's why they were so big. Listen, takeaways you want 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: them all the time, but when you prevent the opposition 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: from actually getting into field goal range or getting in 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: the end zone getting points, I mean, they were in 27 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: field goal range on both those players, so those to 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: me were critical turning points. And then you know, as 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: you mentioned, the Giants on the flip side were very 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: efficient in the red zone. They were three or four, 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: so the offense was able to capitalize on field position. 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: But getting to the quarterbacks three sacks, two takeaways, they 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: doubled and triple John their production from the first two 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: games combined. They only had one sack and one takeaway 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: in the first two games, and then you walk away 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: with three and two respectively in those two categories. I mean, 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: that was huge. Absolutely. We'll get back to the defense 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: in a little bit, but let's start with the offense 39 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: because to me, that was the story of the game. 40 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: The Giants i think played their best half of offensive 41 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: football since probably at some point last year or maybe 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the year before. Lance four straight possessions with a score 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: to open the game. It's something we haven't seen they 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: very very long time. And to me, the key was simple. 45 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: They were not a lot of negative plays, if any. 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: In the first drive there were zero negative plays, uh 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: and one penalty delayed game for five yards. Otherwise it 48 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: was a clean drive to get that initial touchdown and 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Eli got enough protection for the offense to function and 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: he didn't need a lot of it because I loved 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: the design lance by Pat Shermer and Mike Schuhl in 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: the offensive staff. I tracked the whole game flying home. 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: I watched the game on tape, the entire game. They 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: didn't take one five or seven step drop with Eli 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: under center. Everything from under center was either a play 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: action pass or a screen pass. Every other pass play 57 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: came out of shotgun. You do that so we like 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: can get the ball settled, get the ball out really 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: really quickly. And that's how they operated in the you know, 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: first few drives of the game. The offensive line wasn't perfect. 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: You can even argue it wasn't great, and they Solder 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: just at his conference goal said he needs the group 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: to play better, and they do. But it was good 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: enough to let the offense function and they used all 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: these crossing routes against the Texans, and whether they were 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: in man, they couldn't stay with the receivers going across 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: the field, or if they were in zone, the linebackers 68 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: weren't getting in the passing lanes and Eli was picking 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: them apart. And I thought the combination of the game 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: plan from the coaching staff and then the lack of 71 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: mistakes from the Giants players on offense and the execution 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: was all the difference. Last week glance it was errors 73 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: and past protection. It wasn't guys gonna beat one on one. 74 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: It was mistakes and errors in protections, sliding communication, things 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: of that nature. We didn't have one free runner at 76 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback the entire game. On Sunday, the Giants offensive 77 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: line cleaned all that up. You want to give credit 78 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: to John Greco, fine new center. I'm gonna give a 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: credit to the whole group. No missed assignments and put 80 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: all these put all those things together. That's how you 81 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: have a first half offensively like the Giants had. Yeah. J. J. 82 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Watt had three sacks, but I mean those were just 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: one on one individual battles that he won. So and 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: it came to the second half to Yeah, it wasn't 85 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: as if anybody just gave him a free path to 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback. He fought, he battled. Listen, you're talking about 87 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: a player that's a three time NFL Defensive Player of 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: the Year. He leads the NFL and tackles for law 89 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: since two thousand eleven, so everybody's gonna struggle against him. 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: But with that being said, to your point, you also 91 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: didn't have penalties to those mental mistakes. Nate Solder didn't 92 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: have the holding penalty, But other than that, John, the 93 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: offensive line didn't shoot itself in the foot. Three penalties 94 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: twenty yards that was big. Yeah, the delay of game 95 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: penalty and the Nate Soldier holding penalty. That was the 96 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: only mishaps from an offensive standpoint. Generes Jenkins had the 97 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: defensive holding call. There were two other penalties, Ray Ray 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: arms Strong and Sterling Shepherd the taunting, but they were 99 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: offset by other penalties. And the Ray Armstrong penalty was 100 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: not the cor because he didn't get the face mask 101 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: because the side of the helmet. And as far as 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd is concerned, he's lucky that the Texans had 103 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 1: a penalty on that one, because you know that could 104 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: have given the Giants all of a sudden the precarious 105 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: spot in terms of field position. It could have backed 106 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, so you don't want to necessarily give 107 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: free gifts to the opposition or hurt yourself, I should 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: say as a result of just going back and forth 109 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: with Aaron Colvid, who was clearly a college teammate of 110 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: his at Oklahoma, I mean, it's not even a guy 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: that there's bad blood involved in. Shepherd clarified that after 112 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: the game. But they cleaned up those mental mistakes and 113 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: that was usual. They weren't playing behind the chains, John, 114 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: throughout the entire game. That was a big issue against 115 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Cowboys. People understand, you play third 116 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: and long football. I don't care how much offensive talent 117 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: you have. You're only going to be able to sustain 118 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: those drives for so long. And and here's the telling numbers. 119 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: They were seven of thirteen on third down, John. They 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: had though eight downs of those thirteen for five yards 121 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: or less. Those are manageable third downs. They converted six 122 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: of those eight third downs. You're taking advantage of the 123 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: manageable third downs, and they had five for seven yards 124 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: or more. So the balance was in favor of manageable 125 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: third downs as opposed to lopside and in favor of 126 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: those third and longs. And that's why they executed to 127 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: the degree they did. And you know, speaking of Eli 128 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: Manning's execution, john six of six on that final drive 129 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: that ultimately led to Sterling Shepherd's touchdown. When they needed 130 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: him the most, when they needed him to make the 131 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: good decisions, when they needed him to protect the football, 132 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: he came through. That's what you want out to use 133 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: star quarterback. And it's not like there were passes that 134 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: were thrown that could have been intercepted and were dropped 135 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: or close to being intercepted. I mean, the closest one 136 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: was probably Lance the really awesome passing through to Beckham 137 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: in that little window between the safety and the corner 138 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: over Jonathan Joseph's outstretched hands. But that was just a 139 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: great pass. No other pass was close to being intercepted. 140 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: They killed the Texans in the middle of the field. 141 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Eli Manny was accurate for two yards and two touchdowns. 142 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: That is as good of a performance as you can 143 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: have a hundred thirty two point three quarterback rating. So 144 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: no the with about Eli man if you give the 145 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: guy time, he'll be able to perform for you more 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: times than not. So let's put that aside for a moment. 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Rushing the football, I thought the interior of the offensive 148 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: line Lands did a really good job running it. I 149 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: thought Patrick omam Ay easily had his best game as 150 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: a Giant. He's the one that had the key block 151 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: on Barkley's first touchdown run. He got to the second 152 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: level and blocked Jack Zack Cunningham, who, boy, he had 153 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: a rough day. He gave up that play, he gave 154 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: up the scene play, and he gave up the first 155 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: down throw to sit kuon Barkley on the sideline. So 156 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: they were something tells me they had a big red 157 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: circle around him when they looked at film during the week, 158 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: because boy, the first time I picked a couple of 159 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: years ago, wait, Forest Georgia Tech, who was one of 160 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: those and it was one of those a CC teams 161 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: out like Black and Gold. Um, but he had a rough, rough, rough, 162 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: rough day at the office. But when you run it 163 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: like the Giants did twenty seven carries a hundred and 164 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: fourteen yards, you get in those reasonable third downs, you 165 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: don't have negative plays. And when you look at the 166 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: offense struggling lands in the second half. And and this 167 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: is a point I made at the end of my 168 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: game notes story which is on Giants dot com. You 169 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: understand why it's a mistake sometimes to always put everything 170 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. It was the same scheme, it was 171 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: the same player in Eli Manning, playing the same level 172 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: of football, but the Giants failed to score points. Okay, 173 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: well why is that? Well, it's pretty simple. The first drive, 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: Manning did throw a little bit too long to Cody 175 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Latimer on a deep throw, so that was fair. The 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: next drive you had a third eleven because Barkley had 177 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: a no gain on a first and ten and then 178 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: bark and then there was a short pass to Sakon 179 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Barkley for negative one yards that put him in third 180 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: and eleven. The next play you had the offensive holding 181 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: on Nate Solder or racing that Beckham screen pass that 182 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: put him in a second and fifteen. Then Manning got 183 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: sacked and that put him in third and twenty five. 184 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Then the Giants next drive, second play, Manning sacked from 185 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: the nine seven, and then on a third and Tenny 186 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: sack for a minus nine negative plays and penalties. If 187 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: you stay out of those you have a good chance 188 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: of scoring points, and for the most part the Giants did. Yeah, 189 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: that's why it was sort of a tale of two 190 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: halves in my mind, John in terms of offensive production. 191 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Really good start. Then they came out flat to start 192 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: the second half, but regrouped with that final drive as 193 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned where Eli Manning was six of six. The 194 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: other thing that I think is very important to note, 195 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: big explosive plays much more apparent in this game than 196 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: we've seen in the first two games. The Giants had 197 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: six big plays and big plays for those of you 198 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: who aren't familiar or runs of ten or more yards 199 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: in past plays of twenty or more yards. How many 200 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: many plays of twenty more yards that they have do 201 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: you know the answer to that. I'm not a big 202 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: fan of runs over ten Okay, well they had a 203 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: total in this game. Okay, six total in the first 204 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: two the plays of over twenty yards. Odell Beckham had 205 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: to Sterling Shepherd at a twenty three yard grabs and 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: that made three. Barkley I believe had a twenty four 207 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: yards run I want to say, so that's four, and 208 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: Barkley in a twenty one yard reception as well. So 209 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: it looks like and they thought about Cody Latimer. What 210 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: was So I want to say five of the eight 211 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: engine that's good. The five five in one week is strong. 212 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: That's a good number for twenty plus r place And 213 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: that was something that was missing from this offense in 214 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: the first two games now, and it was mostly catch 215 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: on run by the way. It wasn't a lot of 216 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: passes down the field, which is fine, but absolutely and 217 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: the way that we talked about it last week, the 218 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: way the Texans are playing lands, they put a lot 219 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: of deep zone. They're not gonna let the ball over 220 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the top, so they had to work that middle of 221 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: the field in order to be efficient. Well, and that's 222 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys were doing too. They were keeping all 223 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: the personnel in front of them. But they also did 224 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: a nice job not being forced into a position where 225 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: they missed a lot of tacks. Well, here's the thing, Cowboys, 226 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: personnel in the middle of the field is better. Yeah, 227 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: you don't see Sean Lee and Jalen Smith running around 228 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: in the Texas defense. Da you well said, different story. Well, 229 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: because Euston's defense is panking on getting to the quarterback 230 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: and not necessarily leaving their linebackers and safeties out to 231 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: dry where is Dallas's defense is built a little bit differently, 232 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: where they're like, all right, to Marcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory, 233 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: you don't get to the quarterback. It's okay. We've got 234 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: confidence in the guys in the middle of the field. 235 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: And of course the Giants giving them constant free runners 236 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: to the quarterback probably did hurt well. Of course, yes, 237 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: that certainly made their job a little bit easier, there's 238 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But I think the Giants did 239 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: a nice job capitalizing in the middle of the field 240 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: and also between Barkley and Beckham, forcing the initial tackler 241 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: to miss and then picking up the extra chucky yards, 242 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: whether it be five or seven yards. Hey John, that's 243 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: an extra first down here. And both of those guys 244 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: were a shoe string tackle or two away from breaking 245 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: a really long one. There were a couple of plays 246 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: where last line of defense just got the guy down 247 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: where it could have came into you know, became a 248 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: very big play. So that's something to keep an eye 249 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: moving forward. Before we moved to the defense, uh the 250 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: Elephants and room that every wants to talk about. I 251 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: wanted to save it for last on the offense because um, 252 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a bogus narrative that needs to be 253 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: debunked a little bit, and listening to a few minutes 254 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: of the radio this morning coming in and then Crawl 255 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: Banks at the spot in f A n there seems 256 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: to be the idea out there that the only reason 257 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the Giants offense had success in the first half of 258 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: this game is because Eric Flowers wasn't in the game 259 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: and Chad Wheeler was. It's utter nonsense, and Chad Wheeler 260 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: did the best he could. He played fine, especially in 261 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: the first half. He gave the offense enough time to function. Um. 262 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: He also gave about five or six tackles for loss, 263 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: including three sacks UM, which is a lot worse than 264 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: what Eric Flowers did last week against the Cowboys, by 265 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the way, and just as bad, if not worse than 266 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: what Eric Flowers didn't a week one against the Jaguars. 267 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: So again, I'm not trying to pound Chad Wheeler here 268 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: because he was putting a very difficult situation against J. J. 269 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Watt and Pat Schremer said that himself on his conference 270 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: cold today that look, he's he's gonna get beat one 271 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: on one by J. J Watt. It happens that he's 272 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: a great player, we get it. And Wheeler fought. He 273 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: did some good things in the running game. But at 274 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: the same time, the reason the line struggled against Dallas 275 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Lance was as a unit, they did not do predictions correctly, 276 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: along with the running backs and the tight ends, by 277 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: the way, and they had a lot of you know, 278 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: mental execut you shouldn't mistakes, not physical getting beat one 279 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: on one mistakes. Those went away. And by the way, 280 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers wasn't one of the guys that had a 281 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: lot of those mental mistakes. Last week. He had one 282 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: of his best performances. So let's so let's not turn 283 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: this into oh, Eric Flowers didn't play and that's why 284 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Eli Mann. They had confidence, and that's why the Giants 285 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: won this football game. It's not true. I looked at 286 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: the tape. It's not true. And well, and what I'll 287 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: add to that, John is, first of all, I always 288 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: get tired when people analyzed football games and they want 289 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: one scapegoat to simply explain why a team wonner lost 290 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: the game. It's just it's too simplistic of a response. Football, Yes, 291 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: the ultimate cliche, it's a team sport that goes without saying. 292 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: But what people want is they want to know. Okay, 293 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: the reason why the team lost by five points or 294 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: one by five points is specifically because of this one player. 295 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: And even when Eric Flowers had his fair share of 296 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: ups and downs, John to say that he was the 297 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: only reason why the Giants fell short is misleading. Just 298 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: like in last week's game, people are having the debate, 299 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: which you started the show off with Eli Manning. Does 300 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: he have enough gas in the tank? Was he to 301 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: blame because he's not a mobile quarterback? And then you know, 302 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: the more and more you watch the film and you 303 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: look back, it was a variety of factors why they 304 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: lost to the Cowboys. It wasn't just one right tackle 305 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: or one quarterback and so forth. So to simply say 306 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: the Chad Wheeler Flowers switcher rou equated to a victory 307 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: is coincidental. In my mind, I got a question for you, 308 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: a Lance. Let's say Al Goguchi doesn't get that interception. Okay. 309 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Let's say Lamar Miller, Miller doesn't fumble, and the Texans 310 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: somehow put up a you know, thirty points in this game, okay, 311 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: and the Giants offense sputtered the way it did in 312 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: the second half. J. J. Watt had three sacks. He 313 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: had a forced FuMB on Eli Manning that um turned 314 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: the potential Giants touched on into a field goal. He 315 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: had two tackles for loss in the running game in 316 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: the backfield where he beat Wheeler cleanly. Let's just go 317 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: into this imaginary world for a second and imagine it 318 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: was Eric Flower's at right tackle giving up those plays 319 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: and not Chad Wheeler. Would we be hearing on the 320 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: phone today one, Oh, we'd absolutely be here about Eric Flowers. 321 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about endlessly. Yeah. Well, because if you 322 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: don't like a player, regardless of whether they do well 323 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: or bed, you're going to continue the narrative because you 324 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: just don't like that player. The facts are not necessarily 325 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: going to change your opinions. So the people that dislike 326 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Eric Flower is the fact that it was refreshing to 327 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: not have him in the game and see Wheeler. Whether 328 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: Wheeler played Pro Bowl football or not, the bottom line 329 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: is Flowers wasn't in the game. So you know, once again, 330 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: if you have personal feelings and opinions, we're not here 331 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: to change those personal feelings and opinions. We're just here 332 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: to have a fair balance conversation about truly the factors 333 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: that led to the Giants winning and the factors that 334 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: led to the Giants losing in the first two games. 335 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: But I think you actually hit on a really good point. 336 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: I'll take it a step further. You know what happens 337 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: on that first drive, John, if the Texans punch it in, 338 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: remember they were knocking on the door and beat w 339 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: web By the way made a great play on Will 340 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: Fuller because he pushed them out of bounds. Fuller catches 341 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: the ball, but because of the rules in the NFL, 342 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: you push him out of bounds while he's airborne, he 343 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: doesn't land in the end zone. It's not a score. 344 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: But they don't make that play. To your point, the 345 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: atlec Ogol Tree interception, Lamar Miller doesn't fumble. Let's not 346 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: act as if the Texans didn't move the ball up 347 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: and down the field and have some opportunities to walk 348 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: away with touchdowns. The difference was the Giants were opportunistic. 349 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: They kept them in field goal range as opposed to 350 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: end zone range. That was the big difference. Now let's 351 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: talk about the defense real quick, then, we'll get to 352 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: your calls at two oh one, four or five on three. 353 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure I've annoyed a lot of people with that 354 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: statements and all. That's the big narrative this morning, but 355 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: it's it's really not that simple. Absolutely, Um, defensively, lands Um, 356 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Giants defensive front. I think they 357 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: were the difference from me. Defensively, they did an excellent 358 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: job against the wrong people. Throw out the overall running statistics, 359 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: but that really doesn't do them justice because the Shawn 360 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: Watson in this game at five carries for thirty six yards. 361 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: They're running backs rushed at fourteen times for twenty three yards. 362 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: That is a phenomenal defensive performance. And three guys that 363 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: stood out snacks. Harrison was dominant, lived in the backfield. 364 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson was nearly as dominant. He was living in 365 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the backfield. You got no push on either one of 366 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: those guys the whole game by the Texans who continued 367 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to try to run up the middle for some reason 368 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: instead of running outside. I don't know why. UM. And 369 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: Terry Win, who is a guy that I got a 370 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: tweet last week and can the preseason Terry Win please 371 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: show up well, there he was because he pressured the 372 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: passer um the first time the Texans got inside the 373 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: ten yard line. In fact, they had a second and 374 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: goal to two, he had a tackle for a three 375 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: yard loss to turn it into third and goal from 376 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: the five. He was also nearly in on the tackle 377 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: to play before Connor borrowing got Lamar Miller down at 378 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: the two um. He had the great hustle play when 379 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: he rushed the passer a dump off the Miller, he 380 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: comes from behind, knocks the ball away, causes a fumble 381 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: which takes points off the board for the Houston Texans. 382 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: And he played an excellent, excellent game. So for me, 383 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: those three guys up front the only at three sacks 384 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: Lance in the passing game only three, So it's not 385 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: like they were knocking Watson around. But there were a 386 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: lot of times where he had to chase him out 387 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: of the pocket, and I thought, looking at the tape, 388 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: there were going to be opportunities down the field if 389 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: Watson had a clean pocket. They made him scramble, and 390 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: when he was escaping the pocket, he didn't do a 391 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: great job of keeping his eyes down field, so he 392 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: missed a couple of defaults that he could have had 393 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: if that pass ras didn't get there. Connor Borrowin and 394 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Cree Martin are not gonna show up on the stat 395 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: sheet in this game in terms of sacks, but their 396 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: pressure on a couple of plays they forced Kareem Martin 397 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: forced the holding penalty on that touchdown past the DeAndre Hopkins. 398 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: Now they scored a few plays later, so it didn't matter, 399 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: but still that passed rush and then Connor Borrowin. There 400 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: was a play with forty three seconds to go in 401 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: the second quarter when the Texans were in that two 402 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: minute drill situation where Will Fuller had beaten b w 403 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Web outside with no safety help. He beat him on 404 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: an inside release. He was ahead of him by two 405 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: and a half yards, but Connor Barwin beat his man 406 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: off the edge, Watson had to scramble, didn't see the 407 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: receiver deep, and they missed a touchdown opportunity there. So 408 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: I thought those guys really made the difference. You talked 409 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: about the struggles the Texans had passed protecting on the 410 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: offensive line all week last week, their offensive line has 411 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: had just as many issues as the Giants, and I 412 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: thought the Giants defensive line took advantage of that. Well, 413 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: speaking of the Texans offensive line, seven penalties four against 414 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: the offensive line. It was not a good day for Davenport. 415 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: By the way, Julian Davenport had three false start penalties 416 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: and holding penalty. So it's almost like more than one 417 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: NFL team have problems the offensive tap. I know, well, 418 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: there aren't just guys on the street that are good 419 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: that wen't heard that before. I don't know the way 420 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: sometimes we have conversations on this program and get it, 421 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: this is geared towards Giants fans, but you know, the 422 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: Giants don't just live in their own bubble on their 423 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: own island. It's an issue across the board. Russell Wilson 424 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks the Monday night game with the Bears. 425 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Now they are coming off a victory against the Cowboys, 426 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: but you know, Seattle has had its fair share of 427 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: issues on the offensive line. Teams are dealing with injuries, 428 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: Teams are looking for saviors and they just don't grow 429 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: on trees. But the Cardinals, the Bills list, Yeah, Bills 430 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: lost Eric Wood to retirement, Richie Incognito, Glenn Yeah to 431 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals. So you take into consideration all these teams, 432 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: the Giants are certainly not in their own little category 433 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: where they're the only team looking for help or trying 434 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: to tweak and strategize around problems. But getting back to 435 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: this game, as far as the defense is concerned, there 436 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: was another play I thought where Watson, and I don't 437 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: remember what part of the game is, he had DeAndre 438 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: Hopkins flaring towards the right corner of the end zone 439 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: and it was a wide throw Hopkins got like a 440 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: fingertip on it. That was another throw deep down the 441 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: field John where he was forced out of the pocket. 442 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: And listen, statistically, it's shown when Watson faces pressure he's 443 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: not nearly as effective as a down the field thrower. 444 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: The Giants took advantage of that, and that's but see 445 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: the key is John getting out of the pocket is 446 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: only half the battle. Then you have to make sure 447 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: that you maintain lane integrity, and I thought the Giants 448 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: did a good job of that because I didn't think Watson, 449 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: while he scrambled here or there, I don't think he 450 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: ruined the game. No, he did not. They were not 451 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: backbreaking scrambles where it was like, oh, here we go 452 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: a thirty yard run. See, Bordles had a forty one 453 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: yard run, which was huge because of field position. Dak 454 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: Prescott had seven for forty five and it may have 455 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: not been one thirty yard run, but I thought it 456 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: changed field position. That's why some of those runs were kicked. 457 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: I think only one Watson scramble resulted in the first down. 458 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Maybe I think you're right. I I can only remember 459 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: one where he was weaving and out of traffic. I 460 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: don't remember another play where I felt, wow, it's a 461 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: good point. I mean, the Giants are in a precarious spot, 462 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: so you know, they were getting after the quarterback. But 463 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: at the same time, it wasn't sacrificing the integrity of 464 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the defense, and that was big. So you know, when 465 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: you do those two things simultaneously, you execute, you're gonna 466 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: put yourself in a position to win it. And that's 467 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: exactly what the Giants defense did. They didn't necessarily put 468 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: the offense in a precarious spot where the offense said 469 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: to itself, boy, we gotta put thirty five points on 470 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: the board, because you know, when the Giants put twenty point, 471 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: it's on the board. In the first half, they're up 472 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: twenty six, you say to yourself, yeah, maybe one touchdown, 473 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: they should be in a good position, and that's exactly 474 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: how the game turned out. But you know, in other 475 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: games that we've seen, not just for the Giants, John, 476 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: across the NFL landscape, you have a game where you 477 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: scored twenty points in the first half, you only put 478 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: seven on the board in the second half. You know, 479 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: sometimes that's entering that gray area where a play here 480 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: or there could be the difference and you wind up 481 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: coming out on the wrong side of the ball game. 482 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: But I thought the Giants defense made enough plays down 483 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: the stretch, specifically in the red zone, and that was 484 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: a big difference maker. All right, two O one nine 485 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: four five one three. We'll get to the other details 486 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: on the game as we move along and take your calls. 487 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: We want to remind you that Big Moo kickoff life 488 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: is presented by cores Light. Download the cores Light rewards 489 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: apt to an amazing giant prizes throughout the football season. 490 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to Doug in Rochester. He's gonna lead us off. 491 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: What's up, Douggie fresh right man, Doug? What's on your mind? Um? 492 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Mannering um? If he gets you block and he's just 493 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: as good as rising as the time bread, he lie 494 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: the accurate thing. He proved that yesterday. But here's the thing. 495 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: I think it's a slat, just still a Shepherd of 496 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: the second field goal, O'Dell was open down the right 497 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: side line. He shaked his side. He's opening the end zone. 498 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: So I think that's the third eight. He's like miss 499 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: O'Dell and the ends Ronde Bob reporter and out the 500 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: show the replay. But that situation, Shepherd, but down on 501 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: that situation instead of the three places, if you looked 502 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: at the bread of the seven. Yeah, but dug it 503 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: dug In that situation, it's a third and four. He's 504 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: trying to get the first down. So if he sees 505 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: that that developed quicker over the middle and he's guaranteed 506 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: the first down, are you really that mad at him 507 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: for taking the guarantee first down. I'm just saying he 508 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: is the third I didn't missing miss anything because they're 509 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: going to beat that guy, and he's been doing one 510 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: on one well the first down, but you gotta grass 511 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: to see what's over there. Yeah, but Shepherd's the first read. 512 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to get the four yards for the first down. 513 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: So I'm glad they did none things Sherman um Let's 514 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: score seven points in the second half. The talon because 515 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: any daus says you gotta keep get Doug. I don't 516 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: think they got into their plate call that teams coming up. 517 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't think listen, Doug, we're gonna lower you there 518 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: just because we want to try to chime in here. 519 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I want to have a little bit back and forth. 520 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it was the plate calling in the 521 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: second half. First of all, J. J. Watt had his 522 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: three sacks in the second half, Uston was able to 523 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: get a lot more pressure. We read you that the 524 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Giants were in some tougher third down predicament predicaments because 525 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: correct and they didn't run the ball as effectively. So 526 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: to say that that's just the play calling sometimes they 527 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: got to say. Euston made adjustments once in one on 528 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: one individual battles, and the Giants didn't have favorable down 529 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: in distance, and the offense is gonna make some mistakes, 530 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: and Doug, you can, you know, come back on here. 531 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: You know they're they're they're good. He was still talking 532 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: through us, which is amazing. I tell you, Doug's got 533 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: a talent like anybody else. Dugs in his own world. 534 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Just having a conversation with Dougs Flying Dog. I went 535 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: through it with you on the play by play. The 536 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: first drive in the second half they had a reasonable 537 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: third in five and Eli tried to go deep to 538 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Cody Laddimer overthrew him a little bit um, but otherwise 539 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: it was penalties or sacks or negative runs that turned 540 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: you into third and long situations. You're not going to 541 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: succeed on every drive. This isn't arena football. This isn't 542 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 1: the Saints playing the Falcons where apparently you can succeed 543 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: on every drive, and the play calling didn't change. They 544 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: were running the same place. That's the point that I made. 545 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes the execut usually is just not there. Whether it's 546 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: a penalty or negative play, you're getting thrown along and 547 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: you have trouble. And by the way, the other team 548 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: has a say in this. J. J. Watt's really good. 549 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna happen. That's the type of player he is. 550 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: And Odell and are you only many did not miss 551 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham deep in week number two. I went through 552 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: that play with you last week. He threw the ball 553 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: the ladder and about four seconds later, after the corner 554 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: and safety went up to play the past then Oldell 555 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: was open deep well. And the other thing is Week 556 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: one against the Jacksonville Jaguars, John because this is also 557 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: another one of those narratives he missed him in the 558 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: end zone because it was overthrown. But what people are 559 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: not taking into consideration is there's dynamics of that play 560 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: where Eli all of a sudden, is pressured. He has 561 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: to get rid of the football much sooner than he anticipated, 562 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: and that impacts the throw. And after Eli through the football, 563 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Barry Church had reached out and grad Beckham's arms slowing 564 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: him down a little bit too. Once again, are we 565 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: looking at those things? Are we just saying people Manning 566 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: is not perfect. You overthrew Ladder on the DePass a 567 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: little bit. He he only had four and complete passes. 568 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: But there's this thing now where you look at every 569 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: play on tape and you say, oh, he missed that 570 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: guy deep. Don't you guys understand that if you analyze 571 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: every quarterback in the NFL, there's gonna be played where 572 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't hit the open guy occasionally. No one's gonna 573 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: be a percent on those things. There was come on, 574 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: there was an instance related to this and I'm not 575 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: trying to get off topic. In the Bears Cardinals game, 576 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky there on the goal line, essentially he's got 577 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: one receiver to his left, he's got four to his right. John, 578 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: there's only three Cardinals defenders lined up with four Bears receivers. 579 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: You would think perhaps you'd look on that side because 580 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: you have favorable numbers right Instead, Troubinsky immediately throws to 581 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: his left. So you know there's another example. Not Tropisky 582 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: is a bunch of younger quarterback than he lie Manning. 583 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: But the point is quarterbacks miss perhaps more favorable opportunities. 584 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: It happens. And again you go through the reeds in 585 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: the progression. On the third down, you're trying to get 586 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: the first down. Shepherd's open on the slant. You take 587 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: what's there the Beckham happened to beat has got off 588 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage on play. Absolutely that I'm not 589 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: the bidding what. I saw that on the film, and 590 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure they showed it on TV as well. But 591 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: then you're telling the quarterback to pass up the guaranteed 592 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: first down, not to throw it deep. So I can't 593 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: get on the quarterback for that. I just I don't 594 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: think it's fair to justin. I want to bring up 595 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: just one other points related to that. Pat Schermer spoke 596 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: about this in his postgame presser. On the touchdown play 597 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: to Sterling Shepherd, they said it was intended for Odell Beckham, 598 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: but Beckham saw a lot of pressure and attention his way, 599 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: so instead Eli Manning made the right read and threw 600 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: it to Shepherd where only he could get it, and 601 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: he got the touchdown. So you know, as many times 602 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: as we talk about he shouldn't have went for the 603 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: or he missed the home run opportunity, but then how 604 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: many plays does he then make the change where the 605 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: first read is not where it should be and he 606 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: doesn't force it into that read. Instead he goes to 607 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: the open man and they actually executed play again on 608 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: the board. Who want to remind you that big look 609 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Kick Golf Live is presented by cores Light. Download the 610 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: Coors Light Rewards. After an amazing Giants prizes throughout the year, 611 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: let's go to Scott New Mexico. He's up next. What's 612 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: up Scotty do? Hi, guys, how are you doing? I 613 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: rarely say this, but I agreed with both of you 614 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: on your review or synopsis of how the Giants won 615 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: this game. I think all the points you may wherever 616 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: exactly where they should be. Uh. But I had a question, 617 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the defense right now. As I 618 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: looked at the statistics after three games, the Giants are 619 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: right in the middle. They're giving up about three d 620 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: and forty yards per game. But if you take away 621 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: the Prescott run, you take away the Borders run, they'd 622 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: be in the upper echelon. And I talked about whether 623 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Betcher can maintain this getting to a top five to 624 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: seven or eight top defense. So I'm wondering if the 625 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: consistency can ask because I think they're averaging about twenty 626 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: points that they're giving up. Well, Scott, here's what I 627 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: would say. I would say, it's fair to take those 628 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: quarterback runs over or your g out of your generic 629 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: how do the Giants fair against the run question, because 630 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: you want to see how they stopped running backs because 631 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: that's your generic run place. So I think that's fair. 632 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: I can't take them out of the occasion completely because 633 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: that's still how your defense is playing overall. So there 634 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: are two other things that I would say. One, the 635 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Giants haven't exactly played the top offenses in the league. 636 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Yet this year uh Dak Priscott in the Cowboys offense 637 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: has been pretty terrible, to be quite frank they have 638 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: one of the worst offenses in the league. The Jaguars 639 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 1: just scored six points against the Tennessee Titans, and the 640 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: Houston Texans haven't exactly lit up the scoreboard either, So 641 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: I think this week against the Saints will be a really, 642 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: really good test to see exactly where this defense is. 643 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: If you can get a living burning back, that's gonna 644 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: help a lot. To get Eli Apple back, that's gonna 645 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: help a lot. But I will say this, far too 646 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: many chunk plays in the middle of the field in 647 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: this game against the Texans, especially in the second half, 648 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees is better than any quarterback in the 649 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: football finding those windows in the middle of the field 650 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: to throw the football. The Giant Anta gonna either have 651 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: to adjust how they're playing in the second therey and 652 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: I think Betcher, by the way, did a great job 653 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: of mixing coverages this week to make up for the 654 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: loss of your lap what thought he was phenomenal. But 655 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to clean that stuff up with the 656 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: safeties and the linebackers in the middle of the field 657 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 1: if you want to slow the Saints down next week. 658 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Otherwise they are gonna march up and down the field 659 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: on it. This is also the first time this season 660 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: that they're going up against the running back who is 661 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: just as deadly as a receiver, and that is Alvid Kimara. 662 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Not to say that Ezekiel Elliot and Leonard Fournet can't 663 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield, but Camara is 664 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: on a completely different level. He's basically in that Christian 665 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: McCaffrey se Kwon Barkley areas. So you know, the middle 666 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: of the field discipline is going to be extremely key 667 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: because Drew Brees is not necessarily looking for the thirty 668 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: yard home run anymore. He'll just pick you apart with 669 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: the five yard pass, the six yard passed, then he'll 670 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: hit you for the twenty yards. So you know, this 671 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be a really good test because they're going 672 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: up against a true pocket passer who will move out 673 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: of the pocket and will try to extend plays, but 674 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: he is such the level of execution that he has 675 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: when he surveys the field is unlike anybody else I've 676 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: ever seen. But the converse is true because the Saints 677 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: have given up over four under close to the bottom 678 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: there and how many yards they're giving up. So absolutely 679 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: the weapons of Giants have. Does it balance out a 680 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: little bit in the game that's coming up? Oh yeah, Look, 681 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: the offense is gonna have to go to work. Um, 682 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: there's no question about it, Scott, and they're gonna have 683 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do It's you, like you mentioned the 684 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: scenes defense, which to me was the difference in them 685 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: making a deep playoff run last year, has fallen apart 686 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: to start the year. Now it's the early things can 687 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: turn around. But you're right, it's been an absolute mess. 688 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: So there will be opportunities for the Giants to make 689 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: plays next week, no question about it. Okay. But last point, 690 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: it has to deal with Kerry Win. I know, John, 691 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: in the beginning, you were worried whether he can transfer 692 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: to the uh you know, to the regular season from 693 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: this preseason play which he played very well. And I 694 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: was just curious what your assessment is now because agreeably 695 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: you could say he's one of the best lineman not 696 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: on the Giants defensive line right now. Yeah, I'd say 697 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: he and Scott, thanks for the call. I think he'd 698 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: probably be You're welcome. I think he'd probably be the 699 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: Giant's third best defensive lineman after snacks in Tomlinson right now, 700 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: and again, I'm not counting the pass rushers as defensive lineman. 701 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean the interior guys. That's fair. I mean b J. 702 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: Hill had his first career sack. Certainly is starting to 703 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: flash a little here. You know what happened on that sack, 704 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: By the way I saw it on tape, I didn't 705 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: see it live either. As Alfred Blue leaks out of 706 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: the backfield into a route, he clips Martinez Rankin's leg 707 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: and Martinez that's why Martinez Rankin just kind of tipped over. 708 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: It fell backwards because he just sort of well, but 709 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: he tripped over, trip over legs. Look, obviously gets credit for, 710 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: no question about it. But yeah, he got a little 711 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: bit of an assist there from Alfred Blue. Well, the 712 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: Texans didn't help themselves too much when it came to 713 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: the running game and the offensive line. I'm not necessarily surprised. 714 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: But to Scott's point, yeah, Kerry win and when Pat 715 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: Sherman's book to the media earlier today, he just ran 716 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: through Kerry wins box score and every time Pat Shermer 717 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: you thought he was gonna wrap up, he throws out 718 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: another thing that Kerry Win did in the game, whether 719 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: it be special teams, whether it be he great, he's great. 720 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: He was all over the place. He was a disruptive player. 721 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: That's what you want to see. And he noted the 722 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: ball loose and then credited Dante Dion for being in 723 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: the right place at the right time covering it up. 724 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: But you know, you need players like that on your team. 725 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: It reminds me of a Stevie Brown when he was 726 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: a safety on the Giants in that year. He had 727 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: what like eight interceptions. He was always around the football, 728 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: had a knack for finding the football. You get guys 729 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: on your team to capitalize week to week, you're gonna 730 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: create opportunities for yourself. Yeah, no question. I always used 731 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: to have those guys that can step in and play 732 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: multiple positions as well. Versus Tony tackle, base, sub, you 733 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: name it. Letting Columbia, Maryland is up next to Hey, 734 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: how you doing, guys? What's up, buddy car Line? Well, 735 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: dinner tasted better last night. I'm sure did a lot 736 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: better too. The only the only bad thing about my 737 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: experienced with the game yesterday was it wasn't on here 738 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: because the Ravens were home and the Redskins were home 739 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: at one o'clock, so I had to find my way 740 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: to the sports bar. I couldn't hear anything that the 741 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: announcers were saying, but I sure as hell could watch. 742 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: It was a nice win, was an It don't feel 743 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: so bad because my understanding is that Ronne Barber had 744 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: a rough time of it on TV. I did not 745 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: see it, but I had reports that, Um, it was 746 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: rough going for him. Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hey, 747 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: couple of you know, a couple of positives. Um, you 748 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: gotta start with the win. Um. Secondly, UM, that's probably 749 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: the last time we're going to have to play J 750 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: J Wah. Yeah. I don't think we'll see him again 751 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: in a regular game. And for me, that's that's a 752 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: positive player, you know, terrific player, and um doesn't have 753 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: a lot of mileage on him because he missed so 754 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: many Yeah, I think that's probably the last time we're 755 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: gonna that's the last time we're going to see him. 756 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: And thirdly, you know, looking forward to Sunday, I think 757 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: coming off that win, that's there's going to be a 758 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: nice I've at home against the Saints, and that's that's 759 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: always nice. I think maybe we can capitalize on some 760 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, home field advantage, but I think it's going 761 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: to be a different crowd after a win and after 762 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, an oh three start um listen one of 763 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of other things, John, I'm I'm 764 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: glad you mentioned the play by d W. Webb because 765 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: it helps me to, you know, talk about something that 766 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: we talked about last week, which was, you know, you 767 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: don't you don't need to make three interceptions to to 768 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, to have a part in the game and contribute. 769 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: And and there's a play by the backup d W. 770 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: Web I mean, these guys around the roster for a reason. 771 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: I know, if the backups were as good as the starters, 772 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: the backups would be starting. But still, you know, these 773 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: guys make some plays. Dion with the fumble recovery. You 774 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: know you talked about you know, borrowing and and uh 775 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, and and Carter you're making some plays. And 776 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: I think the last time you and I talked last week, John, 777 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: we said the big big advantage I thought, and you 778 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: I think you agreed with me. The biggest advantage of 779 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: Giants would have in this game is snacks Harrison playing 780 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:19,479 Speaker 1: over that center and uh she she's just dominated. Yeah, 781 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: Martin over Martin. And you know, if if you're running 782 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: a three or four defense and the offense has to 783 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: devote two blockers to keep that nose tackle control under control, 784 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: those other two defensive lineman and the linebackers ought to 785 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: make plays. And there's just no no way to undomestic, 786 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: underestimate the contribution that Harrison and lent for a nose tackle. 787 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: To lead your team in tackles in a game is extraordinary. 788 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: And that's what Damon Harrison did yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, Usually 789 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: it's holding up you know, just holding up the blocker 790 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: and then the other guy. And you know, but and 791 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, good point, John, because it does look modest. 792 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: Five times I think he had five tackles, maybe four 793 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: and one before I think you have five fall and 794 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: two assists. Yeah, okay, okay, so you know it doesn't 795 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: sound like a lot, but what he's really doing is 796 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: tieing up blockers and and that negated the you know, 797 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: the run game. And again you know second and eight, 798 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: second and nine, and boy, that's that's a lot better 799 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: than you know, the first half of opening week when 800 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, second and three after four net got some yardage. 801 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: So look where there's an advantage. I mean, you've got 802 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: to dominate. That's where you you know what on Wheeler, 803 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an advantage. It didn't work in terms 804 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: of the win, but you know, when you've got that advantage, 805 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: the other the player on the other side has gotta 806 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta you know, you have to play well. So, 807 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, nice effort by everybody. I liked the contribution 808 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: by the people coming off the bench. Everybody seemed to contribute. Um, 809 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, I can't think of anybody who had a 810 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: really bad game. I'm going to give a I'm gonna 811 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: give up and okay to Wheeler, Yeah he gave up 812 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: the sacks and so forth. It's it's what but you know, 813 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: it's it's watched just better than he is. Understatement, but 814 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, there weren't the tripping penalty, you know, and 815 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: we and we're not running the second and fourteen, second 816 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: and nineteen and you know, we you know, we've put 817 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: ourselves in position that way, and I think we can 818 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: do that on I think we can do that Sunday 819 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: against New Orleans. I'm sorry, you're gonna say something. No, No, 820 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: you're final and that's good. I got a bunch of 821 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: calls I want to get you. We got sure, sure, absolutely, 822 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: thank you for taking a call. Let's go Giant. I 823 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, he wanted to have that one tackle 824 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: for loss on a run. This is actually on. He 825 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: had a tackle for a two yard loss in the 826 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: Giants final game winning drive that put them in a 827 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: second and twelve um. But then Barkley caught two straight 828 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: passes for thirty one total yards, which kind of put 829 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: them over the top. There. Um, there's one other. I 830 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: remember the play where Watches kind of got Barkley as 831 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: soon as he touched the ball in the hand. Yeah, 832 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: I remember which play you're talking about. The gut and 833 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: then watch somehow just oh he came out of Yeah, 834 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: got tremendous penetration. That might have been in the first half. 835 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't see it here in the second half anyway. 836 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: Five one three. David Cranford's up next night, Dave, how 837 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 1: are you guys doing? Well? What's up? That's good? Hey, 838 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: you know it's it's amazing and you guys touch on it. 839 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: The the over analysis early in the season. It's it's 840 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: I get it. It's a passionate football fans. But you know, 841 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: you go and look at across the league a little 842 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: bit right now, and and understand right now that Minnesota's 843 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: got one win, green Bay has got one win. You know, um, 844 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, so there's a lot of really in the 845 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: season like this, John, you forgot about one team, the 846 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: freaking Patriots have one win. Thank you, thank you. That 847 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: was what I forgot. You're right. So so that's what 848 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: my point is, is the over analysis. But at the 849 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: end of the day, I look at this and say, hey, 850 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: what what stands we're looking for from this game? And 851 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: and and by the way, both of these teams, you know, 852 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: going in oh and two were desperate, right, Giants were 853 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: desperate for a win, but sowhere to Texans and and 854 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: before the season, a lot of people were very high 855 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: on the Texans. There are a lot of people right 856 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: so here they were. They were both owned too. And 857 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 1: we're on the road, and you know, I just give 858 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 1: Shermer and and the new regime a lot of credit 859 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: because you know, there there's no more scholarships and whatever 860 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: you want to say, I think your point about Wheeler 861 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: is is fair, except to say that I think it 862 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: goes a long way that people down the roster you 863 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: know you're not you know, Odell can have a bad 864 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: game and Bark we could have a bad game, and 865 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: he like can have a bad game. But apart from 866 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: a couple of those guys, anybody down the roster has 867 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: got to earn their spot. You know, if you're pullback 868 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: and you don't make you blocked, you're not going to 869 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: be on the team. That's fair, no argument, And maybe 870 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 1: that went into the into the decision making. I can't 871 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: tell you whether it did or not, or how the 872 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: locker room felt about it, but I do think in 873 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: a more general sense that it is important to make 874 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: sure the players understand you're accountable for how you perform 875 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: in practice and on the football field during games. And 876 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: I do think that's an important culture um to have 877 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: on a team. And I think, you know, here in 878 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: the past sometimes there were certain players that might have 879 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: been drafted high that you know, hung around a long 880 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: time and didn't really do a whole lot while they 881 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: were around. And I agree, I think those days are over, 882 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: and I think you know it may be something a 883 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: little bit softer or or not. You know, it's so 884 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: much as the excess and knows. But you see the 885 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: locker room after the game, and you know, maybe you 886 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: guys saw a lot more than anybody else, and being 887 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: around the team the way you guys are, but you know, 888 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: there's there's clearly a relationship there between Shermer and the 889 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: team and and and I think you saw that, you know, 890 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: between game balls and between the way the players and 891 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: and again you know, look at the at the end 892 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: of the day, you gotta win the game, xs and ose, 893 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, all that sort of stuff. But I think, um, 894 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: I think some of that is is helpful. And I 895 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: think what this what this game did for fans, at 896 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: least for me. I've watched it, you know, three times, 897 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: and they you know, since they played and they won 898 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: all three of the times, which is nice, but they 899 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, you're looking 900 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: for something to build up. And you know, you go 901 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: into the Saints game and you say, hey, you know 902 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: what it's going to be. You know, there's a lot 903 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: of challenges when you think about the defense and you 904 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: think about the linebackers covering you know, the middle of 905 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: the field against Drew Brees. I think that's that's trouble. 906 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, the Saints had 907 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: an injury to their to their cornerback Patrick Robinson's got 908 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain. Their secondaries deet up. You know, 909 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: we need the offense to go toe to toe to 910 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: toe and and and I think what you saw last 911 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: week is, you know, or yesterday, what you saw was 912 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: an offense that has the chance. They got to go 913 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: out and play well. But they got the chance, and 914 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: there's not there's no J. J. Watt on the Saints. 915 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: They got they got one great pass rusher, you know, 916 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: a rookie that they're trying to get going. But you know, 917 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: it's a favorable matchup for the first round pick, you know, 918 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: And it's a favorable matchup that they can that they 919 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: can exploit. And the only way they're gonna win is, 920 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: you know, they've gotta they've they've got to put up 921 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna have to score. Well. Dave, here's 922 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: the thing that the team hasn't scored thirty since what 923 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: isn't now it's e's straight games without thank you, thirty 924 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 1: five straight games of that thirty points, so I think, 925 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: and I'll give I'll give you my prediction on Monday, 926 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: if the Giants want to win this football game against 927 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: the Saints, it's time for that record to go away. Yep. Well, 928 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: I think if there's any team, if there's any game 929 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: for that streak to end, it would be when you're 930 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: playing the New Orleans Saints. The only thing that has 931 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: to the only other thing I would add, Davis, you know, 932 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: Camera Jordan's on the Saints. I don't know if you 933 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: were necessarily taking him into consideration, but you know he's 934 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 1: got four sacks already on the season. I wouldn't sleep 935 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: on him. Well, I just wanted to clarify that he 936 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: was referring to perhaps Cameron Jordan as opposed to you know, 937 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: somebody else, because that's the guy you still got to 938 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: pay attention. He can play very disrupted. He's pretty good, 939 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: and Marshall Latimer is a pretty good corner two. Indeed, 940 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: I totally agree, you guys are the best you've got. 941 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: You know. The great part is for you guys is 942 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: that you know you find so many extremes in analyzing 943 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: the stuff, and even though you guys, you know know 944 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: the team better than anybody. You're you're some of the 945 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: most balanced and and you know analysts out there. So 946 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Great, appreciate it. Thanks for the call, 947 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: and that that she goes back to the Dougs call, 948 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: who we tried to interceed on a couple of times 949 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: but felt miserably. Um. The extremes of Eli Manning is 950 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: just last week half the course said he could have 951 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: played anymore, they should have trafted somebody, and now this 952 00:45:54,160 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: week he's as good as Todd Brady. It's just funny 953 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: to be like, why can't it just be? Yeah, he's 954 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: a good player. When things around him work, he can 955 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: be really good. But you know when these struggles and 956 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: the things around them, maybe you aren't so good. I mean, 957 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: why does it have to be he's either the worst 958 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: or he's the best. Yeah, it goes from one extreme today. Well, 959 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the NFL is a week to week league, 960 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: and fans also go back and forth week to week. 961 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: You know, we were revisiting whether or not the Giants 962 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: made the right choice of drafted Sae Kwon Barkley because 963 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: they gave up six sacks and that you need more 964 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: than you know, just obviously the elements around you. You 965 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: also need a quarterback. Now, all of a sudden, Eli 966 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: may has an efficient performance. Eli has some more in 967 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: the tank. When he gets protection, he could be effective. 968 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: And now we've steered clear of debating at nauseum whether 969 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 1: or not the say Kwan Barkley selection was right. I think, 970 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: like anything else, you got to weather the storm. And 971 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: you know, the last caller I believe alluded to this. 972 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: I always like to see the first quarter of the 973 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: season before I almost get a field no, and we 974 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: are always there. I'm not saying that. You know, we 975 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: need to see ten more games, but you just want 976 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: to see at least the quarter of the season too, 977 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: maybe try to see the identity of what this team 978 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: is all about. And you know, right now, I'm still 979 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: at the stage where it's Dr Jeco, Mr. Hyde. I 980 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: think we've seen some good, we've seen some bad, and 981 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: we've seen some in between. But I'm still trying to 982 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: get a feel for this team, and I think the 983 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: team is trying to get a feel for itself as well. 984 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: And you know, keep in mind, you had a game 985 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: where two new offensive linemen were in this contest. You 986 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: had John Greco at center, even though he filled in 987 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: for Hallapeo at the end of the Cowboys game and 988 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: you had Chad Wheeler at right tackling. You know, we 989 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 1: were talking so much John about maybe you need the 990 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: first two or three games of the season because these 991 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: guys didn't get a lot of reps in the preseason 992 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: and so forth. Well, do we restart the clock now 993 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,439 Speaker 1: because you now you're throwing in two more starters. So 994 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: is the learning curves supposed to be extended or does 995 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: the clock from the start of the season continue after 996 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: four games? Hey, you still can look at this group 997 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: as it is. I mean, that's something that I think 998 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: remains to be seen because when you throw new guys in, 999 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: whether they're veterans or not, you still to account for 1000 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: Greco is now playing next to two guys that he 1001 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: may have not taken practice reps with all throughout training camp, 1002 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: and Wheeler wasn't necessarily getting every single rep next to 1003 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: Patrick o'mamay as well. He actually so because Wheeler was 1004 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: used on the left side. So that's what I'm saying. 1005 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: Does the clock re start now with the offensive line? Well, 1006 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: that's the amazing thing to me, And you know, and 1007 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: I think we went through this debate a long time 1008 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: with Flowers. Unless we haven't gotten more calls about that 1009 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: this week, right, we do have a couple open lines. 1010 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: A couple of callers dropped off. You want to get 1011 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: in at two. Don't call on a specific caller. By 1012 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 1: the way, you'll be next. I'm not mentioning his name. 1013 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the Beatles juice here. Um, and I 1014 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: was just very surprised. How you know, fans just assume, Well, 1015 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 1: the Giants realized they made a mistake from the beginning, 1016 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: and that's why they put chat Wheeler. Well, if you 1017 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: watch practice during the summer, Flowers legitimately outplayed Wheeler. I 1018 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: mean they made a point of towering telling Eric Flowers 1019 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 1: when he reported for camp that it was an open 1020 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: competition for the right tackle spot. There's no reason for 1021 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: them to lie to him. So wheel was given every 1022 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to try to win that job, and over the 1023 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: course of the summer he wasn't able to do it. Now, 1024 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: over the of course, the first two games, as Pat 1025 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: Tremer said, um, they want to see what Wheeler can do. 1026 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: They probably think they know what they have and Eric Flowers, 1027 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: let's get we learned the game and see what he 1028 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: can do. And coaches are allowed to change their minds 1029 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 1: and give something new a try based on new information. 1030 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: So I think people jumped to conclusions and jumped the gun. 1031 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: And as someone that watched every snap of practice this 1032 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: year and was like five ft from the field, I 1033 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: can tell you even with the second group, remember how 1034 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: I kept saying how Lorenzo Carter kept getting into the 1035 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: backfield and was disrupting people and getting after the quarterback 1036 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: and was so disruptive in practice. Do you think was 1037 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: lined up against in those practices if he was lined 1038 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: up over left, if you loaned up over right tackle 1039 00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: it was Chad wee Are. Don't tell anybody, just say it, 1040 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: of course, and listen. Is it possible that they make 1041 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: another change. It's possible. I don't think this is necessarily 1042 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: the finished product with respect to the offensive line. So 1043 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, for those of you who think that now 1044 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: it's solidified and there's the group moving forward, I would 1045 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 1: certainly not go that far. I mean, I think John 1046 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: Greco did a really nice job. His familiarity with the 1047 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: offense has helped. But you know, they did keep two 1048 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: other centers on the roster, and Spencer Pooley joined the 1049 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: team late, is it possible that they look to get 1050 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: him more and more acclimated with the offense. I wouldn't 1051 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: necessarily dismiss that from the equation as well. All right, 1052 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: let's go to Sergio in New Jersey as the call 1053 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: start the rolling. Now, what's up, Sergio? Say, fellows, happy Monday. Great. 1054 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give two big comments. Yeah, I 1055 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: wanted to give the game ball to the Giants coaching 1056 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: staff and also to say Kuan Barkley. Uh. Primarily I 1057 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: wanted to say the coaching staff did a great job 1058 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: and being able to find a way to get the 1059 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 1: ball out of e learn any pants a bit faster. 1060 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 1: I was extremely happy to see how to utilize right Sergio. 1061 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: I thought, especially in the first half of that first 1062 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: drive of the game, the way they got that ball 1063 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: out quick and work the middle of the field was 1064 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: perfect and I just hope that that continues. The second 1065 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: comment I wanted to make, and it goes to ta 1066 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley. I heard I heard a stat about four 1067 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: days ago that he's averaging a negative four yards post 1068 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: contact so far this season, and so far he's at 1069 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: two sixteen yards for the season, and I think that's incredible. 1070 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 1: You mean he's averaging four yards after contact? Is that? 1071 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. No, No, he's averaging but 1072 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: negative four yards post contact? You mean the contact? Okay, 1073 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: pre contact? That got you. Yeah. Last week in Week two, 1074 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: the Giants actually had more rushing cards after contact than 1075 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 1: before contact, which kind of tells you all you need 1076 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: to know about what the plocking was like and their 1077 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: abilities to his individual place. Yeah, and the ability to 1078 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: I think, Sergio the thing that's two things have impressed 1079 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: me about Barkley especially. I thought in a Week one 1080 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: he still danced a little bit. I thought the last 1081 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: two weeks he's been much more decisive and hitting the 1082 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and taking what's there. I've been very 1083 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: encouraged by that. And his tackle breaking ability at the 1084 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: NFL level is And I'm gonna throw a war. I'm 1085 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: gonna throw this out here, and I know it sounds crazy. 1086 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: It's Barry Sanders esque. The way he's able to bounce 1087 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: and slip off the tackles. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, 1088 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: he's got a strong able to produce once his offensive 1089 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: line is all on the same book. Sergio that spin 1090 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: move that he did at the line of scrimmage yesterday 1091 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: where he was basically in a catcher's crouch and spun 1092 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: without putting his hand down and kept his balance. I 1093 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: have never seen a running back. And on top of that, 1094 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: he threw that the same defender down to the ground 1095 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: after to sing it was threw him down. He's extremely strong, 1096 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: extremely talented, and two points I wanted to make. I'll 1097 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: definitely get time to all the calls and I appreciate 1098 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: you guys have a great day. Thanks. I don't know 1099 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: if it was the same play with the spin, but 1100 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 1: there was one play where he got such a strong 1101 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: bass John somebody came at him and he like ducked 1102 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: the defender missed and then he kept running. That was 1103 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: I remember one of the plays that jumped out to 1104 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: me too. His tackle breaking has been elite level for 1105 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: for for lack of a better term, I mean, I 1106 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: think he's been great. I think for a football focus 1107 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: tracks that stuff, I would have to see what they 1108 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: have ranked in terms of yards after contact for him, 1109 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: it's got to be at the top of near the 1110 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: top of the league. Emmett and Houston is up next. 1111 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: Hello Emmett. Hey, how are you doing, guys? And then 1112 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: you must be talking all sorts of snack down there today. 1113 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 1: My man, oh man, I was talking crazy the game. 1114 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, you have no idea. And let me tell you, 1115 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: I have never seen so many New Yo Giants, fans, 1116 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: New York period, people, period out there. I was talking 1117 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: to everybody up there like I knew the people. Yeah, 1118 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, So what I wanted to talk about today was, 1119 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of things. Um, start with Eli Man. 1120 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: Everybody this whole week, the last week, the week trying 1121 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: to it. Everybody was talking smack about Eli Eli. Don't 1122 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: got it a little more? Um? This does that? Well? 1123 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: I hope these guys had some type of media and 1124 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: finally woke up this Sunday and realized, Hey, this guy 1125 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: can actually play in a couple more years left in 1126 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: him now. Yesterday this guy was what wasn't thirt This 1127 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 1: guy was accurate, two touchdowns, snow picks, perfect clean pocket 1128 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: for the most part. Come on, this is what we've 1129 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,919 Speaker 1: been talking about. And by the way, and not even 1130 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: just this weekend, it on the season. One interception on 1131 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: a deflected pass, So that's that's good ball protection too. 1132 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: And the ball was exactly like you said, deflected tips whatever. 1133 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: The guy you know in New York has always kept 1134 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,959 Speaker 1: his composure, never let nobody bring him down. This guy, 1135 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: it's like there's nothing that can be said, no more 1136 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: about him because this guy has you know, pop, everybody won't. 1137 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: I understand all his detections. They're owing three yo. They have, 1138 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: if not one of the best pass rushers in the league. Yeah, 1139 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: they probably might not be playing because they potential right now, 1140 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: Merciless and all these guys. But I'm in Texas. I've 1141 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: been here for a couple of years. I've seen what 1142 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: they can do. You know, I don't want to they 1143 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: have to pass lush And I also want to shout 1144 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: to Wheeler because I'll be honest with you. Before I 1145 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: left the house and I thought that notification that Willer 1146 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: was gonna play right tackle, I was sending my wife. 1147 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, now on, you know, She's like why, I'm like, 1148 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, if they're putting Wheeler in for Eric Flowers. 1149 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: First of all, Eric Flowers won the job, you know 1150 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: during the off season. What makes you think Will is 1151 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: gonna freaking take care of jaj Watt and uh I 1152 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 1: And that's my fault. You know, I take that out. 1153 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: I honestly thought Will was gonna play back, and he 1154 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 1: did accept it. Well, yeah, he got the sack Watt. 1155 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: But you know what, I went back, you know, I 1156 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: recorded the game and I came back home and I 1157 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,479 Speaker 1: watched it. He did not play bad at all. This guy. 1158 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: There was times where he was losing his footing and 1159 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: you know, get him um bum rushed and put and 1160 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: and and pushed back. But he gave u Eli that 1161 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: second or two that we've been asking for time to 1162 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: throw that ball and and they got completed every single time. Well, 1163 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: when Pat Shermer spoke to the media, and one of 1164 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: the things he said that and then we got things 1165 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: to appreciate the phone call is that Wheeler did a 1166 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: good job finishing his blocks, especially in the run game, 1167 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: and he fought, he battled, So you know, you give 1168 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 1: credit to a player for doing that. But at the 1169 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 1: same time, Shermer also, you know, noted that he felt 1170 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: he kept wheel around on an island at times, and 1171 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 1: you know that would be a coaching adjustment that they 1172 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 1: would wish to go back and tweak to not put 1173 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: him in that precarious spot against one of the elite 1174 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: pass rushers in the NFL to maybe give him assistance, 1175 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 1: and so forth, and again Wheeler performed as Pat Shermers 1176 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: in the press conference. In this conference called today, he 1177 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: did enough to allow the team to win. So to Shermer, 1178 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,919 Speaker 1: that's a winning performance. It didn't kill the team where 1179 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: they couldn't overcome it exactly, which was the case in 1180 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: previous He played well enough, especially in that first half 1181 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: of the offense, to function at a good level. And 1182 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: that's all you can ask for. Second half that some 1183 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: issues Monty and san Antonio. He's up next a month. Hey, 1184 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys that were you doing? What's up? 1185 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Hey? Hey, so I'll 1186 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: echo himts uhum words there. I was at the game yesterday, 1187 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 1: and I mean it was like a home game for 1188 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: the Giants. We big blue travel as well, for sure 1189 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: they do um, but had a couple of things um too. 1190 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 1: Let me just say to all the fans out there 1191 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: who had concerns about THEE Kwon Barkley being drafted number 1192 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,959 Speaker 1: two overall, Um, this guy is well worth that pick. 1193 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean I saw him, you know, I was at 1194 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: the draft when he got drafted. Drew up the dollars 1195 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: for that, and now just seeing him in person, I mean, 1196 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 1: he's just he's just phenomenal. He's such a slippery guy. 1197 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: Uh the tackle, he never gets tackled by the first guy. Um, 1198 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just impressed by what I've seen so far 1199 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to the rest of his career. Um. 1200 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: The other thing though, in yesterday's game, and I hadn't 1201 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to go back and look at the 1202 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: tape yet, um sting on my way home, but it 1203 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 1: just seems like the Houston players players were diving at 1204 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: the legs of the Giants players a lot. There's a 1205 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 1: lot of low, low tackles. Uh, you know, Evan Ingland, 1206 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: it's one for sure, But but Te Kwan's tackle as well, 1207 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: What do you guys thought on that? I honestly didn't 1208 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: notice that Monty watching the game. Um At Sae Kwon 1209 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: did get his bruise knee on a low tackle the 1210 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: first play of the game, and then Ingram heard his 1211 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: knee obviously, and uh, they got the m R. I 1212 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: back on that. They're still waiting on the severity of it. 1213 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: It'll you know, they'll probably a fair way to play 1214 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: with that him for a couple of weeks. We'll see 1215 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: exactly how long it's gonna be as we move forward. 1216 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: But I didn't necessarily notice that lens no need did I. 1217 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: And Pat Sherman was asked about that in the conference call. 1218 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: He was asked whether or not we got on some 1219 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: of the hits were dirty, and Shermer's response was he 1220 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: did not. He said, guys just need to prepare to 1221 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: embrace for contact and protect themselves. And you know, this 1222 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: is the way you gotta look at it because of 1223 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: the new rules in the National Football League, John, if 1224 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: you're a defensive player, you can't hit a guy high, okay, 1225 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: because you want to avoid the helmet. The helmet hits 1226 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: and where else are you supposed to try to bring 1227 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: a guy down and it hits somebody in the legs, 1228 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 1: You can't exactly fall on top of them with the 1229 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: full body weight either exactly still going at to the quarterback, 1230 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: of course, which still look well. Referring to the Clay 1231 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: Matthews controversial place, we'll leave that for another edition of 1232 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. But getting back to the point, 1233 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: I understand the coler may be frustrated because two guys 1234 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: may have been banged up suffered knee injuries. But I 1235 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: am not gonna fault any Texans player for going low 1236 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: because they're in a precarious spot. They don't have much 1237 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: of a choice. And Shermer did say, by the way, 1238 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: that both snacks Harrison and there were some rumors going 1239 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: around that he might have been hurt. He just bumps 1240 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: and bruises he gonna be wearing and same for sake 1241 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. So final call the show, Norris is and 1242 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Norris. The only got about a minute to go, 1243 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna I'm gonna have to actually put the 1244 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: express on. Okay, Okay, sounds good. Um, first of all, 1245 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: how are you doing, guys with John um? So I 1246 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: only have three really quick points and not got the 1247 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: phone um for one of the last color kind of 1248 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: acts already. Um, it was about Evan Ingram's injury. Just 1249 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: want to know because I've heard a couple of different 1250 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: reports saying that it was like a tear or a sprain. 1251 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: So do we kind of have any like real idea 1252 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: which it is. They have now announced any details on 1253 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the injury, only that it's a knee and they're trying 1254 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: to figure out the severity. If I had to guess, 1255 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: I would expect to be without him for at the 1256 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: minimum a week or two. Okay. And do you guys 1257 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 1: think that Apple Eli Apple and um and the every 1258 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: and it will be available next week? Guys with that 1259 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: high scoring offense, we probably need those guys. Yeah, you 1260 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: get yeah, you get a need. And Pat Tremer was 1261 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: kg about that too. He said, both guys were getting better. 1262 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: They were running around outside today. My feeling and this 1263 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: is just my intuition. I feel better about Vernon than 1264 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 1: I do Apple. Okay, okay. And then my last point, 1265 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: and I want to make a shout out, Um, do 1266 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: you guys think that Chad Wheeler really made that much 1267 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 1: of a difference at right tackle to where the offensive 1268 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: line seemed like an entirely different line. I'll see that 1269 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: last question off off line. And I want to say 1270 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: shout out to my wife and my daughter Karen and Nora. 1271 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Love you guys. Create the phone call. If you're gonna 1272 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: shout out somebody, shout out the wife. Yeah. Never a 1273 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: bad idea, no I. And and that's another theory lance 1274 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 1: that's been going around that you know, putting Wheeler in 1275 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: with some type of gigantic domino effect where everyone else 1276 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: had so much confidence because he was out there and 1277 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: they didn't make mistakes. No, I don't buy that, not 1278 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: at all. I don't buy it. Well, if you were 1279 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: to ask me which offensive lineman I thought had that 1280 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 1: type of impact that probably lead more towards Greco than Wheeler. 1281 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: So would I because of what he pointed out at 1282 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: the line, the communication working with Eli. You want to 1283 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 1: make a case for that because this was his first 1284 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: game that he actually started its center and went through 1285 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 1: an entire game with Eli manning from start to finish. 1286 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: That to me, is a more logical narrative than to say, 1287 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: simply flipping out flowers for Chad Wheeler all of a 1288 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: sudden gave the offensive line overwhelming confidence. And again in 1289 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 1: Week two, folks, it wasn't Flowers getting beat one on 1290 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: one that was the problem with the offensive line in 1291 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: the past protection It was missed assignments and bad protections 1292 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: and people not being on the same page with the 1293 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: scheme and communication that created free runners to the quarterback. 1294 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: That didn't happen this week. Once there were no free runners, 1295 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: say Kwan Barkley physically missed a defensive lineman once, which 1296 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: made it look like a free runner. But they actually 1297 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: did have a hat on a hat on that particular play. 1298 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: And I don't see how you can say because the 1299 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: right tackle all the way on one side of the 1300 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: line was different. The guys didn't screw up the protection schemes. 1301 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me. I just don't 1302 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: buy it. Yeah, because even if you go back to 1303 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: that Cowboys game, John and I understand, sliding as a 1304 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: unit can very well impact the opposite side of where 1305 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: you're lined up on. But will Hernandez had that breakdown 1306 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: opportunities Taco Charlaton Nate Soldiers. So now you're gonna tell 1307 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: me the Nate Soldiers worried about what's going on the 1308 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: left side. The fact that Chad Wheelers on the right side, 1309 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 1: now of a sudden he's going to execute better. Come on, 1310 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: doesn't hold any Come on, people, that's a stretch. It's 1311 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: a stretch. And that Eli was so much more comfortable 1312 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: because he knew that he had Chad Wheeler there instead 1313 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: of Eric Flowers, that he played so much better. It's 1314 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: it's nonsense. It's a it's as Land said before, it's 1315 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: an easy scapegoat to say, oh, we won't because a 1316 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: it's not that simple. It never is. The loss is 1317 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: never that simple, and winds are never that simple, despite 1318 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: the fact you want him to be. Before we say goodbye, 1319 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: I want to remind you one last time that Big 1320 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live was presented by cores Light. Download the 1321 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Coors Light rewards apt to an amazing Giants prizes throughout 1322 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,959 Speaker 1: the season for Lance Mettal, I'm John Schmilk. We'll see 1323 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow one thirty Big Blue Kickoff Live. You and Russ. No, 1324 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 1: I think it's Russ and Paul. Paul, it's not rusting me. 1325 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: It's not sure. Well, it's not Russ and me either. 1326 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: Could be Feagles, could be fegles. Maybe there's feagles. It'll 1327 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 1: be Big Bull kick Off Live with people that aren't us. 1328 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you to Barrow. Everybody, have a good lie.