1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: through the program here. We've been breaking down a lot 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: of different stories out there. Buck back, new dad, baby 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: in the house. Very exciting. We continue to talk about that. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate all the fabulous responses we've gotten so far. So Buck, 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: I want to hit this story because I think it's 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: important and I think it ties in with a little 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: bit about what we were discussing, which is the inability 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: to distinguish between good and evil. And in particular, this 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: story is from Texas, north of Dallas, I believe, Frisco, 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Texas and for those of you to not hear about 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: this story, a seventeen year old Austin Metcalf was stabbed 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: to death at a track meet by another seventeen year 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: old named Carmelo Anthony. Anthony has been arrested. He's been 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: charged with the crime. He admits that he did it. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: It appears that his argument is going to be predicated 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: on some form of self defense. In other words, there 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: is no disputing that he had a knife and that 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: he stabbed this kid in the heart and killed him. 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: The seventeen year old who was stabbed to death. Austin 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Metcalf died in his twin brother's arms. This is an 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: awful story. It has received a substantial amount of attention. 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: In the wake of the stabbing. The family of Carmelo 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Anthony set up a legal defense fund and it was 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: hosted by a individual company and that fund has raised 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: over four hundred thousand dollars. Now, to be fair, the 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: company that is allowing this fund to be raised is 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: the same one. Their position is, hey, you should be 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: able to raise money for your legal defense. We're not 31 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: going to make decisions based on what you're charged with, 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: what your race is. They are going to allow it 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: to be set up no matter what. So this is 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: not GoFundMe. This is another one. But he's raised over 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars. They just lowered his bail from 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: one million dollars to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: Since you only have to pay ten percent UH usually 38 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: in order to get bail. That's just twenty five k 39 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: of the four hundred thousand plus that has been raised 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: for him. The family bought a new house. Buck The 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: family has reportedly bought a new house with the four 42 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars that has been raised for this seventeen 43 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: year old who is accused of in cold blood murdering 44 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: another seventeen year old at a track meet, stabbed him 45 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: in the heart, killed him. What does it say for 46 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: society today? I think you can tie this in with 47 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: the Luigi Mangioni case. I think you can tie it 48 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: in with what happened on October seventh. That someone can 49 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: stab teenage boys, one can stab the other one in 50 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: the heart, and over four hundred thousand dollars can be raised, 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: the bail can be reduced, which seems crazy to me. 52 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: He's only having to pay twenty five thousand dollars and 53 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: they're buying a house with all of the hundreds of 54 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars in donations that has rolled in the family. 55 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Well, here's how here's how I would would want to 56 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: approach this clay. There are almost twenty thousand murders and 57 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: non negligent manslaughter cases in the United States every year. Right, 58 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: depends on the year, but let's call it roughly twenty 59 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: thousand murders a year in this country. 60 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: That's right, one kind or another. 61 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: Why is this murder getting or alleged murder. 62 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Right, this is legally what we're supposed to. 63 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Say, But why is this incident and the facts aren't 64 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: in dispute. It's not like he's saying I didn't stab it. 65 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: He stabbed him to death. Everyone saw it is. So 66 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: why are there people who are donating money for this 67 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: legal defense who have never donated money for anyone else's 68 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: legal defense? Why is there this ground swell of people 69 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: who want to assist the Carmelo Anthony family here, not 70 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: the metcalf family, notably, not the family that just lost 71 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: their boy for absolutely no reason whatsoever in the most 72 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: vicious and violent way. They don't care about that family. 73 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: They care about the Carmelo Anthony family. I think that 74 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: we have to ask this question, and I don't think 75 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: that there's a a single answer. I think there are 76 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: there are many different answers. I think that there are 77 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: people who like to believe different narrati. I think they're 78 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: people who like to feel like they are advancing the 79 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: cause of justice by assisting those who are oppressed. 80 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: It's one way of saying it. 81 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: Because this is the other thing I'm seeing people who 82 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: are saying it's self defense. This is the line that 83 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: you are hearing everywhere, and unfortunately, that is an outrageous 84 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: claim under these circumstances. Yes, because what they're doing is 85 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: they're saying, well, well, Carmelo Anthony had a credible fear 86 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: or a reasonable fear of his own safety and or life, 87 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: and so he reacted in this way. If this is 88 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: self defense, anybody who has a crossword with anybody in 89 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: any high school anywhere across the country can murder that 90 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: person in cold blood in front of their family members 91 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: at a crowded event and get away with it. True, 92 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: And anyone who is donating money to this individual is 93 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: really donating money to the most talk and cynical and 94 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: divisive aspects of American politics. I think that they are 95 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: and society. I think that they are really adding fuel 96 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: onto the fire here of a lot of discontent and resentment. 97 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: And let's just be honest about this. They've decided that 98 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: because this kid is black, they are going to back 99 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: him to the greatest degree possible while he estab this 100 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: white kid to death. And you want to ask, why 101 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: is that? Are they trying to Is this supposed to 102 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: be some kind of a reckoning moment? Are they trying 103 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: to force some kind of oj situation here where it 104 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what he did. I mean, what exactly is 105 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: the point that they make with all this monetary and 106 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: public support of this seventeen year old who stabbed another 107 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: kid to death in front of his dad. 108 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: I'll go time to kill for a second time today. 109 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: But can you imagine the reaction if a white kid 110 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: stabbed a black kid to death that attract me, gets 111 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: his bail reduced from one million to two hundred and 112 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars, raises over four hundred thousand dollars, and 113 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: buy the family buys a new house with it. It 114 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: would be the very definition of white privilege everybody. 115 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: People would be saying that it's a resurgence of the 116 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Ku Klux Klan or something. I mean, they would be 117 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: saying it's a white supremacist ground swell, that's what the meat, 118 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: and I don't just mean totally. 119 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: Media would be saying with that, there would be protest marches. 120 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: It would be everywhere, And I don't begrudge. Producer Ali says, well, 121 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: how in the world are you going to defend? Argue 122 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: self defense? He has no other defense. So again I've 123 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: been a criminal defense attorney. I don't begrudge the argument 124 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: of self defense when you admit that you stab somebody 125 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: in the heart with a knife. 126 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Hold on, there is that applies to that applies to 127 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: the lawyer. I'm talking about people that are buying this, 128 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 2: and so I'm going to give money to to help 129 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: this this family. Well, why does Carmelo Anthony's family does 130 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony's family should be, you know, begging for forgiveness 131 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: and saying we're sorry that our son murdered somebody for 132 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: no reason. 133 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Yes, he has no defense, So the only defense he 134 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: has is self defense. So yes, that's the legal that 135 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: makes sense, that's the old that's the warrior's job. That's 136 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: the only defense he has. But why would anybody else 137 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: buy into that? 138 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: And how in the world do you reward the family 139 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 4: who has failed. 140 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Look, if you're seventeen year old, white, black, Asian or 141 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: Hispanic stabs another kid to death at a school event, 142 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: you failed as a parent in some way. I'm sorry 143 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: you did. So the idea that the parent would be rewarded. 144 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: You can't tell me that the kid took a knife 145 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: to school. If you are taking knives to school, this 146 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: goes for anybody out there, your kids, you're grandkids. Something's wrong. 147 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: I told my kids this recently. I said, hey, I 148 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: understand that people have guns. If you're a high school 149 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: kid and you find yourself out with other high school 150 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: kids who have loaded weapons, you made a very poor decision. 151 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: You need to extricate yourself from that situation. If you 152 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: find yourself taking knives that could be used to stab 153 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: someone to death to school, you have failed in some 154 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: way as a parent to allow that situation to occur. 155 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: And so I'm really I agree with a lot of course, 156 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: but who's donating to this? 157 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: Like the really really thing? What is the mentality? Why 158 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: are you giving money to this? 159 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: He has been assigned for one hundred to give thousand dollars, 160 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: not even just donating, donating tons of money? 161 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: This is what I mean. Who is giving money for this? 162 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: And and what is the mentality behind that? You would 163 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: you would have to to truly believe this was a 164 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: self defense case. You would have to be such a 165 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: moron that you can't spell self defense. There's just no way, 166 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: It's not possible. 167 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I think it's identity politics. I think it's purely Hey, 168 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: this is a black kid, who killed a white kid. 169 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: I would bet if you go and look at the donors, 170 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: I think a large majority of them would be white 171 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: liberals who are whose brains are broken. And I think 172 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: black people who are buying into the idea that because 173 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: this black kid stabbed a white kid, that he is 174 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: somehow the victim and he's being cashiered by the media 175 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: and attacked unfairly. So I think if you went and looked, 176 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: I think this is the other thing. 177 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: Buck. 178 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: I think this would be ninety five percent Kamala Harris 179 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: voters right, if they voted at all. Definitely Democrats who 180 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: aren't don'tating the money one hundred percent. But I mean 181 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: when you think about again, I just the mentality of somebody, 182 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: So is it for some of these individuals, it's you know, 183 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: there's like guilty white liberal guilty conscience, White liberals who think, 184 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm just going to help this young black kid because 185 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: he made like a mistake and I don't want his 186 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: whole life, so they're going to write a check even 187 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: though he murdered somebody or allegedly murdered somebody, Right, And 188 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: then I guess you have members of the black community 189 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: who are just deciding, well, he's black, so I'm going 190 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: to stand with him in this. But to that, I 191 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: just want to say, why would you stand with this 192 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: black murderer and. 193 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: Not any of the others that you like? 194 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: Well, why are you picking this because it's a high 195 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: level case where he killed a white guy? 196 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: Like, what message are people trying to send? 197 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: I think the message of racial division? Here's another question, 198 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: and I think answer that makes this story. 199 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: Again. 200 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I hate that this is a story, but I do 201 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: think it is a snapshot of the world in which 202 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: we live for some people. If he had stabbed a 203 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: black kid, which is far more common, right, most victims 204 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: of racial violence are the same race. If he had 205 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: stabbed a black kid to death, same exact situation, with 206 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: the kids black, not one person, by and large would 207 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: have heard about it. Nobody would have raised money for him. 208 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: I doubt they would have dropped his veil. I bet 209 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: that it would have barely made local Dallas news. It 210 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't have become a national story. White kids' lives, 211 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: in the eyes of the media, are worthy of cover 212 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: when they are taken violently in a situation like this. 213 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: It's happened so regularly to young black men that If 214 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: a young black man kills another young black man, it's 215 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: barely a blip on the national radar. The only reason 216 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: this is a story is because there was race involved. 217 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: If it's black on black crime, not a story at all. 218 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: That's the other part of this. And nobody donates to 219 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: the guy of the four hundred thousand dollars buck. I 220 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: bet he wouldn't have been able to raise four thousand 221 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: dollars if he had stabbed another black kid to death. 222 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: Think about the poison that will be injected into the 223 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: veins of the American populous if this kid is either 224 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: hung jury or gets off, which you can't discount as 225 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: a possibility. All you need to know one jury. Don't 226 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: know what the jury jury is going. 227 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: It just needs one right And and now we've seen 228 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: is there's a movement to make this kid into some 229 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: kind of a victim. The facts are not in dispute. Okay, 230 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: you don't at an event, at a high school event 231 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: where there's people everywhere, you don't get to just pull 232 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 2: a knife out and stab somebody in. By the way, 233 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: I've said this to friends of mine too, Clay, because 234 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: this does matter. You know, you can pull a knife 235 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: out and it's a bad thing to do, obviously, But 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: if you pull a knife out, you know, you slash 237 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: somebody on the arm, you know, you you you kind 238 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: of you know, you go like hey, buddy, like the 239 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: next one. 240 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: For most people, if you pull a knife out, it 241 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: ends the entire compensation without you even having to wave 242 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: it anywhere. 243 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: People are like, dude, to stab somebody. 244 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: In the heart is to go for intentional legal force 245 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: right away when you're under no threat. It is vicious, 246 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: it is barbarous. And this kid should spend the rest 247 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: of his life in prison. I mean, I know the 248 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: Supreme Courts that he's not eighteen, so they won't. You know, 249 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: you can't go beyond life in prison. But the fact 250 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: that people are raising money for this is it's just 251 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: it's just appalling. 252 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: How about dropping the bail. 253 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: Why isn't bail getting dropped from a million two hundred 254 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: and fifty? Oh, you have to pay his twenty five 255 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: k to get out of prison after you stab somebody 256 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: to death. 257 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: That seems wild to me. 258 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: How do you think of you're if you're a J 259 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: six defendant who walked into the Capitol building for like 260 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: three minutes and took a selfie and you were denied 261 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: a trial for over a year while you sat in 262 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: solitary confinement in DC. How would you look at this? 263 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: I know it's all the federal versus state, Yeah, but 264 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: it's all our justice system. Does that seem fair to anybody? Look, 265 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: we're having this conversation and I think it's an important 266 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: moment to just remind all of you. Politics when it 267 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: comes to self defense a big thing. And if you 268 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,359 Speaker 2: have to defend yourself, especially in a state like California 269 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: or New York, you need someone to have your back 270 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: when you do lawful self defense. And this is where 271 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: us Concealed Carey Association USCCA comes in. They have over 272 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty thousand responsible gun owners as members 273 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: across the country. I'm one myself. 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The bills that people end 278 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: up running up for lawful self defense, mind you, lawful 279 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,479 Speaker 2: self defense is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars 280 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: easily in a case go ask any lawyer if you're 281 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: going to defend yourself against a felony, you know, a 282 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: felony charge for defending yourself, it's really important you have USCCA. 283 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: I have it. 284 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: Clay has a lawyer. He knows it's important for you 285 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: to have this. For anybody involved with carrying or owning firearms. 286 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: And you might have seen this. 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On this case. We just 313 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: discussed players. 314 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 6: Hey Clay, Hey Buck Richard from Spokane, longtime listener. Congratulations Buck. 315 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 6: I think that the family of the team that was 316 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 6: stabbed by Carmelo Anthony on a file a lawsuit and 317 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 6: never let them enjoy that house, just like they did 318 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 6: a civil lawsuit and just get all that money. 319 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point. I'll talk about that when 320 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: we come back. 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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. 340 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: A lot of people rolling in with reactions to the story, 341 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: and again, I think from down in ten Exus, the 342 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: stabbing family buying a brand new home. Let me tell 343 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: you something, Buck, four hundred thousand dollars get you a 344 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: really good home in many parts of Texas. That is 345 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: not even just a a a that's a really good 346 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: home that they're buying off legal defense fund donations. Now, 347 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: I question whether that's legal because if you're raising money 348 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: under the auspices of, hey, we're going to retain really 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: good lawyers who could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars 350 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: criminal defense attorneys could, and then you use the money 351 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: that you ostensibly were raising for legal defense to buy 352 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: a home, that seems like a misappropriation of the funds 353 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: that were raised in the way that they're being used. 354 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Paying the bail money that would be somewhat understandable because 355 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: it is connected. The fact that the bail was dropped 356 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: from one million to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 357 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: is crazy to me. The fact that you can kill 358 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: someone and get out of prison for twenty five k 359 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: blows my mind. I don't know the standard dollars that 360 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: are applied here, again for people who don't know, usually 361 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: you have to put forward about ten percent of the 362 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: bail money and the other parts covered. But the fact 363 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: that that could end up in this situation. Alan Dershowitz 364 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: Cut twenty nine is saying what we just said, which 365 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: is and It's interesting because Alan Dershowitz was one of 366 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: the defense attorneys for OJ Simpson. But he is saying, Hey, 367 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: if the race dynamics here were reversed, everybody would be 368 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: talking about it in a totally different way. Here's cut 369 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: twenty nine. 370 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 7: This is all about who the jury is. This will 371 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 7: all be determined by the jury. If the racial factors 372 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 7: were reversed, if a white man had killed an unarmed 373 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 7: black man, everybody would be on the reverse side of this. 374 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 7: We live in a society where everything is judged by race. 375 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 7: You know, the Bible says to judges and prosecutors, don't 376 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 7: recognize people, just distract justice. We're way, way, way beyond that. 377 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 7: If the racial elements were reversed there virtually all the 378 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 7: people who are calling for him to be acquitted would 379 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 7: be calling for him to be a quick convicted, and 380 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 7: vice versa. Let's not kit ourselves. We live in a 381 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 7: race conscious society. And jury selection, which of course you're 382 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 7: the guest, is so brilliant that and did so well 383 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 7: in the Zimmament cases, terming the outcome of this case 384 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 7: without a doubt. 385 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: So he's saying the jury selection, as we kind of hinted, 386 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: at Buck would determine. Now, I don't know what the 387 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: makeup of jury's in Frisco, Texas typically is, but again, 388 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm just focused on what we know has happened here. 389 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: Stabbing definitely occurred. Only defense is self defense That seems 390 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: very weak to me from a legal perspective. And the 391 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: family has now bought a new multi hundred thousand dollars 392 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: home and he's only had to pay twenty five thousand 393 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: dollars to get out of prison. For this, he is 394 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: profiting and his family is directly profiting off of murdering 395 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: in cold blood a completely innocent seventeen year old to 396 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: attract me. And I'll take some of the calls. Some 397 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: people are saying, well, this could be self defense. I'm sorry, 398 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Actually it's not. It cannot be self defense because there's 399 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: no reasonable way to explain how a verbal dispute over 400 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: seats could turn into I have to pull a knife 401 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: out of my bag and stab you in the heart 402 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: with it. If that now is the standard of self defense, 403 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't like anyone else can basically get away 404 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: with killing them and say I don't like what he 405 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: said to me. I was scared, I feared from my 406 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: life because I don't like the look in his eyes. 407 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: I also think the point you raised is a really 408 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: good one. You should not have a knife that is 409 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: capable of murdering somebody with ever at school or at 410 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: school related events. But for ninety nine point nine percent 411 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: of people in America, if somebody pulls a knife, the 412 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: dispute is over. 413 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: Right. 414 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: There are not very many people who are going if 415 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: you are unarmed and someone holds a knife to you, 416 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: most of us are not gonna be Crocodile Dundee and 417 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: pull out a bigger knife and be that's not a knife, 418 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: this is a knife. 419 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 7: Right. 420 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: Well, actually I trained with some guys from Ford Bragg 421 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: who are edge weapons guys back in the day, just 422 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: a little introductory stuff. I'm not you know Tommy Lee 423 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Jones and The Hunted, which is a pretty cool movie 424 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: for all the knife fighting they do if you haven't 425 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: seen it, but anyway, but I did some introductory stuff 426 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: with them Clay and one thing they just said, They're like, 427 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: you have to understand if somebody has a knife and 428 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: you're you're you're bare handed, You're just trying to get 429 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: out alive, but you're going to get cut you're going 430 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: to get stabbed, and you know you're you're a You're 431 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble. If somebody has a knife 432 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: and they know what they're doing, you're gonna die like 433 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: you you're basically the disadvantage is much stronger than people. 434 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: Everyone sees these things in the movies. Were like they 435 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: catch someone's wrists when they're about to get stabbed, and 436 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: they go like, karate chop, karate chop. That's not how 437 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: it works. I've seen videos of teams swat teams in 438 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: a stack coming in and a guy has a knife 439 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: and he's able to stab. You know, they do this, 440 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: it's training, right, but they'll show video. He was able 441 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: to get like two or three karate strikes on these 442 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 2: guys before they could even shoot him. And that's and 443 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: so this is what people don't realize. Like a knife 444 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: is a far more lethal tool than most people understand. 445 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: And to stab somebody in the heart, that's not I 446 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: mean that is he went for effectively a kill shot 447 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 2: right off the bat. 448 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: And you may have seen some of the data on 449 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: this many people stabbing someone with a knife. We talked 450 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: about this in the context of the Idaho murders right, 451 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: the allegation about the girls who were all sliced uf 452 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: and everything else. It is for many people a far 453 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: more violent, personal, deadly, and sociopathic in many ways way 454 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: to kill someone than the remote nature of a gun. 455 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example historically, Buck. You know, 456 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: in the Civil War, every musket by and large had 457 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: a bayonet, but actual hand to hand and bayonet fighting 458 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: was very rare in the war by and large because 459 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: it was seen as so much more violent and brutal 460 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: and nasty to be trying to stab someone with a 461 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: sharpened bayonet on the end of your rifle than to 462 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: stand and shoot at people from a distance. In other words, 463 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: this is a particularly violent choice that this seventeen year 464 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: old made, and for him to be being rewarded for it, 465 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: and for it to be largely ignored in the national 466 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: consciousness is I think just the sign of our inability 467 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: to distinguish good and evil. 468 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: Something else that I would just say, because this is 469 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: obviously already playing out so much in the press, so 470 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: it's not like they're holding back. There's not some big 471 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: reveal that's coming about facts. We don't know if there 472 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: was some relevant basis for the self defense claim like, oh, 473 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: I thought he said he had a gun and he 474 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: reached for it. Which there's nothing like that at all. 475 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: But if there was something like that, you would already know, yes, 476 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: because they would want that out there because they know 477 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: a jury pool is going to be formed, and they 478 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: would want you know, there is this kid was in 479 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: the wrong place, Anthony, he was in the wrong place, 480 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: and this kid, you know, it's sports. People get a 481 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: little you know, Clay, you know all about this. People 482 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: can get a little riled up about their sports teams 483 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: or whatever. And he's like, hey, you're in the wrong place. 484 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: They exchanged some words and then he says, well, he 485 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: like grabbed his backpack or something. I think that's my 486 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: understanding of how this went down, and someone grabbing your 487 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: backpack Again, the context matters. This isn't a dark alley 488 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: with two people. These are two people who are rival 489 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: high schools. There's parents, there's adults around, there's security there, 490 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: They're in broad daylight there in public. There is no 491 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: reasonable basis for believing that your life is in jeopardy 492 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: and you need to kill somebody with the knife that 493 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: you kept in your back I would also throw this 494 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: out There is it legal to have a knife on 495 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: school rounds like this. 496 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: No, of course not. So he's got an illegal weapon? Everybody, 497 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: how about we how about why haven't you heard that more? 498 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: Why haven't you heard. 499 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 2: More that Anthony Carmelo Anthony was carrying an illegal weapon? 500 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: You think you think that wouldn't come up if this 501 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: was a little bit different. I remember because some of 502 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: you called in about what about Rittenhouse? And we could 503 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: talk about that all day because I actually know uh 504 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: Richie McGinnis who was there and eye witnessed and had 505 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: to testify about it. And the guy that kind the 506 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: guy that Kyle Rittenhouse shot, attacked him and one of 507 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: them had a gun in his hand when he was shot. Okay, 508 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: so this is not even vaguely comparable situation. But the 509 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: Democrats were all saying, well, he took a gun and 510 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: maybe he crossed state lines with it. So it's like, well, 511 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: he's he was allowed to have a rifle in Wisconsin, 512 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: but if he took it from Michigan and crossed state 513 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: lines with it, maybe that. Because they were desperate to 514 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: make it seem like it was illegal for him to 515 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: have the gun, that was the whole game. 516 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: And also they looked like he was crossing state lines 517 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: with a weapon to try to kill someone, even though 518 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: it was just a suburb and it's like he lived 519 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: ten minutes from the state line or whatever. For people 520 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: who live close to a state border, crossing state lines 521 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: is not actually that big of. 522 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: A deal in many of your lives. 523 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: This is what I mean, all of a sudden, they 524 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: became you know, legal formalists and like extremely detailed about 525 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: any possible violation when it came to Kyle rittenhouse. But 526 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: this kid's carrying a knife long enough to kill somebody. 527 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: That's also a thing. I mean, you really you know, 528 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: I mean I could get into this, but there's actually 529 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: a length of blade that is able to puncture places, 530 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: that can puncture and kill somebody. I mean, you can 531 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: get into some of the specifics of this. I'm sure 532 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: some of you from the military side have edged weapons training, 533 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. There's a length of blade. 534 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: That makes it. 535 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: You know, if you have a basically if you have 536 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: a two inch Swiss army knife, yeah, I mean, you 537 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: could stab somebody with it and you could do harm, 538 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: but it's very very hard to you know, to puncture 539 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: the sternum very very hard to get into the subclavial 540 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: artery and the you know, kind of the neck stern 541 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: oclido mastoid region. It's very hard to do that. Do 542 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: you have a knife that's long? And if it's actually 543 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: not hard to do that at all, and this kid 544 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: clearly did. 545 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: And I just come back to if you truly were 546 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: worried about the situation, the minute you pull the knife out, 547 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: everybody's done right. Unless you are Jason Bourne. People are 548 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: not trying to disarm you without a weapon of their own. 549 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: That entire interaction would have been over the minute he 550 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: brandished the knife. If he truly felt threatened, everybody would 551 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: have been like, whoa Dudeah, all right. 552 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: And then everyone walks away alive. 553 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: And this kid maybe is you know, suspended or expelled 554 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: from school and goes before a judge and maybe does 555 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: sixty days in juvie and is told you ever do 556 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: something of this again, you're in big trouble. But you know, no, 557 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: stabbed him in the heart. Stabbed him in the heart. 558 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me he didn't know what he was doing. 559 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: Think about the mentality and also this thing too, the 560 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: try to say, oh, you know, he's a really good 561 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: kid too. I'm like, you know, guys, please, all right, 562 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: there's been there's been no sense of any no sense 563 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: of remorse Clay from anyone who has taken Carmelo Anthony's 564 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: side in this at all. No sense of sadness for 565 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: the loss of Austin Metcalf, no sense of oh my gosh, 566 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: what now. They're trying to say it's a tragedy on 567 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: both sides. Yeah, no, no, no, actually it's a tragedy 568 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: on one side. It's a criminal and a tragedy. It's 569 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: not the same thing. And I mentioned this, I should 570 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: have circled back to it. There will be wrongful death lawsuits. 571 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I would imagine if this individual is convicted, or even 572 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: if he is not, the standard of liability is beyond like, 573 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: clearly this guy would be guilty culpable for the monetary 574 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: damages in a wrongful death lawsuit, which is what would 575 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: happen in a civil context. The standard of proof is 576 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: much lower. So yes, the family could theoretically seize back 577 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: this home, but I would suggest this violates the donation 578 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: terms to be buying a home instead of actually retaining 579 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: a warrior, which is what people were donating for. 580 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: Well, at this point, you know, I think the bigger 581 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: question will be does he does he take this all 582 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: the way to trial and does he think that he 583 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: can get a jury? 584 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: You know? 585 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: Does the defense for Anthony think that they can get it? 586 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 2: All they needed Clay knows very well, better better than 587 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: most all you need is one person on that jury, right, 588 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: it just says, Nope, not happening, even if the rest 589 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: of them say, come on, it's obvious hung jury. And 590 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: then things get messy, you know, and then does the 591 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: state want to retry this? And you get into all 592 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: this stuff. It's not that hard and it looks like 593 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: they're gearing up for that, and I just the message 594 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: that this would send the country is terrible in all counts, 595 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: in all ways. 596 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: It is really really bad. 597 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: And so it would be even the This is what 598 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: I mean by this, Clay is even the people who 599 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: are clearly like rooting for for Carmelo Anthony in this 600 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: in this situation, it would be better for them too. 601 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: If he actually faces justice and has to you know, 602 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: and has to serve time for this. 603 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean that that is. 604 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: Actually better for everyone, every better for the country. But 605 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: we'll see if that ends up happening. Look, we were 606 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: talking a lot about self defense here, and you know, 607 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm a dad now and one of the profound things 608 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: you have, and the dad's out there all know that. 609 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: None of the moms know this too. But you have 610 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: this little being and you would do anything to protect them, 611 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: right and you feel that way, you also want to 612 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: have the means, and that can involve force escalation. And 613 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: look at how important we're talking about a story where 614 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: there was no force escalation and you know somebody used 615 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: a weapon the wrong way. I want you to be 616 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: able to defend yourselves in the right way and have 617 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: non lethal options to keep yourself safe, but not have 618 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: to make that decision about lethality right away. And a 619 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: lot of people are just more comfortable with this and 620 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: they know that in so many situations it will be 621 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: more than sufficient. And this is where Saber comes in. 622 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: I think Saber products are fantastic. 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Sabre radio dot com say fifteen 643 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: percent on that website today. That's s A B R 644 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: E Radio dot com. Or call eight four four a 645 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: two four safe. That's eight four four eight two four 646 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: safe news you. 647 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: Can count on and some laughs too. 648 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 5: Clay Travis at Buck Sexton find them on the free 649 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 650 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I want to 651 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: take some of your calls and UH and get to 652 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: all of your thoughts on everything we talked about today. 653 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: Also on the self defense side of that quote self defense, obviously, 654 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't agree with that claim at all. I think it's particle, 655 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: but got some thoughts on that. We'll take calls on it, 656 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: UH and we'll dive into it and talkbacks. We love 657 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: live calls, we love, but the talkback on the iHeart app. 658 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: Just go to the Clay en Buck page on the 659 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app and use the function that we press a 660 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: little microphone. And I also want to say thank you 661 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: to all of you who have downloaded and listened to 662 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: our friend David Rutherford's show on the Clay and Buck 663 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: podcast network. Rutt as I call him and his seal 664 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: friends call him. 665 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 4: He is a great dude. 666 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: He's a patriot, a veteran, former Navy seal, deployed combat. 667 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: The whole, the whole nine yards play. The numbers that 668 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: he is getting already from this audience fantastic. 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But in the meantime, 677 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: Crockett is growing every month because of all of you. 678 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: Please go to crocket Coffee dot com a subscribe number. 679 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Ten percent of our profits goes to Tunnel the Towers Foundation. 680 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: We've got fun events that are in the works as 681 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: well at some of these historical sites. 682 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: That we will be telling you about. 683 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: And if you use codebook, you still get a sign 684 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: copy of American playbook Clay. 685 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 3: Are you moving soon? Because what's going to happen to 686 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: all those books? We got to get rid of any 687 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: books you have on him? 688 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: Well, I think we're First of all, I have no idea. 689 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 1: My wife is in charge of the new house that's 690 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: being built, so but I believe we are going to 691 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: be in a new house in October and it's going 692 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: to be pretty awesome. I'm looking forward to it. It's 693 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: been being built for a while. But I know this 694 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: because my wife has people already starting to pack up 695 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: some things, and some of you may have seen this 696 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram. All of her shoes were laid out in 697 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: our bathroom yesterday and my jaw dropped at how many 698 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: shoes she had, ninety pairs, and a lot of you 699 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: reacted on Instagram. Now, she says she doesn't throw shoes away, 700 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: so she's had them for a while. But the amount 701 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: of women that said, oh, I've got way more shoes 702 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: than that blew my mind.