WEBVTT - Hillary Tuck Meets World 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.320 Okay, I want to talk about something that just occurred 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:22.919 to me, and I just want to hear you guys 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.480 describe it, because it suddenly struck me as a little 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.240 odd and it didn't quite make sense, but it was 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.040 something that was just a huge part of our lives, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.320 and I want to hear it described because I think 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:39.080 it's a little weird outside of Hollywood. Where did we park. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:40.960 On the lot? 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:41.720 Yeah? 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:42.560 Like, how did that work? 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:48.440 We had to signed parking spaces that like basically circled 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.280 the stage. They were very close to the stage. We 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:52.319 didn't have to walk far. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.400 So nobody else in the crew had parking spots like that. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.720 No, but I think some of the writers did. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.960 Children We're given parking spots where we didn't have to 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.080 walk the what how far? Like two hundred yards from 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.640 the park. But isn't that kind of bizarre when you 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.960 think about it? Why were we granted great parking spots? 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.360 Here's what I'll tell you. The argument is the same 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:23.760 reason we all have anxiety around dressing and it needs 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.800 to be done fast because the show's very tight schedule 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:34.840 revolves around expediency. They need to make sure that if 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.560 our call time is nine and we show up at 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.880 eight fifty nine or on the dot nine that we 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.360 are then parking our car and immediately on set in 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.160 a short amount of time. And I don't think this 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.640 will shock people that. I think most actors have the 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.840 reputation for not being super timely or good at managing time, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.640 and so the idea that somebody would have to say, well, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.360 my call time's nine, but that means on set at nine, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.800 I have to walk fifteen minutes. So I'm going to 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.880 have to get there at eight forty five, and I 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.960 have to allow for traffic. So I, like a human 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.680 being a job like, they try to take all of 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:21.320 that out the situation for actors because we are catered 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:22.680 to exactly. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.640 I think it's also one of the perks. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.120 It's one of the perks of getting there because I 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.080 remember the first time driving up on set, the first 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.079 thing I took a picture of was my parking space. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:31.280 With my name. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:31.640 Yeah. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.480 Yeah, that was the coolest thing in the world. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.080 But that's the chair kind of ridiculous, Like doesn't that 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:41.320 mean to me? It created It contributed to a culture 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:47.360 that exacerbated two different tendencies. One we cared about our cars, 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.640 like the presentation of a car was important, which is like, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.480 like no other aspect of my life has that ever, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.480 But I remember like what people drove like and how 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.520 they pulled up because we'd see it, you'd pull up 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:00.920 in front of it. And then the other thing that 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.799 it contributed to is beam late, Like there was this 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.080 sense of like, yeah, you could just pull in fifteen 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.080 minutes late and everybody would be waiting for you and 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.519 you'd pull up into your parking spot and jump out. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.480 And like I loved even like Kevin Kelton when he 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.680 was like rider would drive this car. He like our 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.200 our like culture revolved around like the fact that we 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.360 had these parking spots, which is just so weird to me. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:26.640 And it's still like. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:27.320 That for actors. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:28.600 Oh yeah, I don't. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.639 Think it's just the directors, but I think it's it's 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.720 I think it's also if you're the manager of the bank, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:34.760 you're gonna get a. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.640 Park number of parking spots you should they go to 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:39.360 they go. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:39.760 To the piece. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.680 So why do we have parking spots and the like 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.560 there should not be cars on the lot at all 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.960 because that's super dangerous, Like you should be parking on 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:51.360 a garage and then cars not drive cars driving on lots. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.080 It makes no sense. It is purely to cater to 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.040 the egos of the people that you're giving those that 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.800 access to. It's like it's like having an extra bathroom 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.920 for executives. It's so weird. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.920 Do you remember when we started at Disney, we were 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.440 next to Home Improvement and there was always some amazingly 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.680 cool car or two in Tim Allen. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.160 Spot, That's what I mean. And it was like, yeah 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:14.440 it was. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.960 And I remember one time, so he's got a he 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.719 I pull in and there's a brand new Porsche in 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.680 his parking spot with a license plate that said Claus one. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.279 And it was because he had just done the Santa 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.600 Claus and it did so well that Disney bought him 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.400 a Porsche and had to me though. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:33.760 To this day, that's still the pinnacle. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.320 I want to do subthing where it's so good, where 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.280 somebody's like, here's a Porsche, thanks for being on the show. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.720 It's great. It's only in Hollywood. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.320 My friend weird to me, and like I totally bought 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.760 into it and like never questioned it. It was just like, oh, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.359 I'm at sixteen, I have my own or even before that, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.400 I have my own parking spot and like everyone knew 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.400 what car I was driving. Like it's so I remember, 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:03.000 like I bought because all I wanted was an old convertible, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.560 like I wanted like a Karma Gia, and my parents 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.640 wouldn't let me get it because they were like, that's 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.120 an unsafe car. But I wanted like an old little convertible. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.080 And then will You were like, you got to get 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.520 a BMW because that was like and so like I 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:20.320 at seventeen, Yes, I at seventeen bought a BMW convertible. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.400 And then I was like driving around and I like, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.719 it's so weird, like I just don't like care about 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.760 cars at all, like and I even then I don't 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.960 think I did that much, but it became part of 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.400 the thing. And then I remember I had an agent 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.960 who joined the Savage agent. This woman joined the Savage 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.279 and State, and I remember I pulled up in my 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.400 car at one point she was like, why do you 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.720 you really like you care about your car? And I 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.560 was like, well, yeah, I got a BMW. She was like, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.640 I just never I never saw you as that type 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.600 of person, like it seems like a lot of money 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.120 to like wait, and I remember being like, am I 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.560 that type of person and like, yes, that's what it was, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.400 just this part of this culture and like I've never 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.920 been that person since, like, but it was. It's so 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:03.560 like La and. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.920 I s a Toyota four Runner as my first car. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.120 I still have my first car. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.920 Having an suv in LA is already a little ridiculous, 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.440 especially at sixteen. That's a little and at that time 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.760 that was the pinnacle of like cool and like, you 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:18.760 never you don't need an. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.400 Suv, But having a parking space makes way more sense 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.560 to me, Like caring about it's close to the set, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.440 I can get there on time. All this set makes 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.080 way more sense to me than actors caring about where 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.840 their name is listed in the credits, right, Like I 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.239 would always get that my agent call me, going. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.960 Well, you're fourth on the call sheet. Are you okay 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:37.200 with that? 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.359 And I would always remember thinking to myself, why the 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.520 hell do I care where my name is listed? 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.360 I mean, performance speak for itself. I do not care 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:45.919 where my name is. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.960 I would actually argue, I mean I think we might 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.440 have hit on this a little bit. I feel like 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.520 the opening credits of the first season of Boy MutS 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.839 World were actually very good. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.000 For us, right They introduced you, but I don't care 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:57.520 where I was. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.800 But being able to see your name with your picture 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.599 was that the deal? And that doesn't happen anymore, no, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.400 And I actually think that that really it is good 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.040 for actors, Like I like actors getting recognition. Like even 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.880 now you think it's so cheesy at the end of 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.600 like a movie or whatever when they like showed the 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.720 actors and list them, But in reality that's cool. It's 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:16.600 like a curtain call, you know. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.120 It's like when you have where you're listing shouldn't matter. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.040 It should be the performance that you're doing. So if 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:22.920 you're listed. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.240 Second or seventh, you shouldn't be calling your agents based 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:27.400 seven on the call sheet. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.800 But that's usually just based on the sides of your part, right, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:30.480 I mean, isn't that. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.240 Alsoways Like I also wonder how much of it is 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.200 to a certain extent safety, Like I know, I was 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.720 followed from the stage of Boy Meets World where it 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.880 was after a live studio audience taping, and people parked 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.680 outside of the gate where I exited. They watched me 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.760 pull out and they followed me home. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.440 Yeah, and then you got out of your car. 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.160 I did. I got out of my car and yeah, 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:53.840 that's crazy. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.200 Yeah, I don't know. I just I just had this 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.520 memory of like, and I think we told that will 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.920 You told that one story when Dusty hits the car 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.720 with the ball, and I was like, it is so 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.240 weird to have these cars lined up in front of 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.840 a stage, and yet we just totally that was our 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.560 late second. And like, you think about how many crew 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.680 members had to had to park like a normal human 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.280 being and walk to work and be there on time. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.800 This makes so much sense. This is why every house 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.760 you buy has no parking. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.720 That's just because I like houses that are slightly removed 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.720 from like from parking, or from just from normal. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:37.560 Like rider can't dress without anxiety and doesn't want an 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.160 he doesn't want park he wantsn't. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.760 Work to be as difficult as possible. It makes so 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:42.360 much sense. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.760 You should have to hike a mile to my. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.160 House, and if you're backing out half your car should 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.160 slam over this thing and we should have to call 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:51.199 in tow trucks. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.520 I think there's truth to that. I think there's truth 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.559 to that, because you know, the most beautiful wilderness experiences 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.680 I've ever had, or when I've had to hike multiple 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.720 days to get somewhere. You know, it's like if you 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.440 can get there easily. We've talked about Grand Canyon. It's 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:08.640 anti climactic. Like, so ease of access is is not great? Like, yes, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.160 I think I think having difficulty is good for us. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.680 Well, I like my parking space and I'm not giving 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:14.000 it up. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:14.480 Thank you. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.720 Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.839 I'm righter, strong, and I should be the first one 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:19.840 to say my name. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:22.640 From now on. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.720 Now on, I'm wilfred Ell. Now you guys say you're. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:28.440 My god. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:29.520 I love it so much. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.000 Oh my god, I love you guys. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.000 There is a very elite and small club when it 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.600 comes to Boy Meets World, and for all intents and purposes, 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.960 let's call it the Trifecta Gang. These are the actors 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.560 who appeared on the show three times, but as three 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.439 different characters. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.360 There's more than one of the Steve. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:02.280 There are. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:08.560 True inductees into this illustrious crew. First is the beloved 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.319 Willie Garson, who played Leonard Spinelli Mervin from Merrill Lynch 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.880 and the minister who married Corey into Panga in season seven. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.920 Second is Jonathan C. Kaplan, who played Herbert Simon and Alvin, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.400 which sure does sound a lot like the Chipmunks, it does. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.280 He was always the nerd character, Yes, they just kept 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:27.800 changing which nerd name he. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:28.760 Yep, that's exactly. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.640 Give the kid the same name. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.480 And make it Mancus because they forgot. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.920 Also, it's worth noting that technically Phil Broccoli Leads could 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:43.400 also fall into the but he plays two characters named 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.440 Phil and one named Milton, So we'll leave it up 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.760 to different correct because one of them is not the 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.040 same soup pill. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.640 No, and then there's broccoli flap. Fill this broccoli flap Phil, right? 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.240 So wait, okay, all right, sorry, gone on interest. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.240 So we'll leave whether or not he falls into this 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.800 category up to you, our dear podcast listeners, to make 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.760 that decision. I'm talking to you, specifically Melissa, but the 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.400 third for sure member in this week's guest who you 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.560 can call Samantha, Sarah or Kristen. In addition to this 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.880 trio of characters on Boy Meets World, she is best 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.079 known as Amy Zelinski in the Disney TV show for Honey, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.960 I Shrunk the Kids, or Betty Stoller in a pod 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.760 meets World favorite film Camp Nowhere. She also appeared on 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:32.120 the Saturday morning basketball sitcom Hangtime, Roseanne House, Gray's Anatomy, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.680 and the theatrical play with the Brothers Strong. She's a 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.240 name that's already come up dozens of times on the podcast, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.640 and now we are honored to have her stop by. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:48.520 It's time to talk to Hillary Tuk. Hi, you got same? 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.240 Oh my god, you haven't aged? 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:55.160 Oh my god. Flattery is so wonderful, isn't it true? 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.839 Another one who has a painting of themselves someone they're attic? 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.600 How do you do it? Unbelievable you have not aged? 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:08.679 Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to see you guys. Hi, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.640 my old friend. My gosh, it's forever. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:13.360 Know how you do it. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.480 I'm I'm doing well. I'm hanging in. How about y'all? 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.440 Where are you in the world? Are you in Texas 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:19.920 or you. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:25.080 No, I'm in Okay so much like Texas, so much 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:26.160 like we call. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.960 We call in the Texas. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.640 That's far enough away that it takes three days and 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.640 a lot of cows to get there. But yeah, all right, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.880 Oh my god. We have no excuse to have not 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:41.520 stayed in touch. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.480 No excuse. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.080 I assumed you'd left l a long ago, or you know, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.600 but I know, Okay, No. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.680 We're all We're all here, yeah, live in, Live in 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:53.839 the Dream, right, Wow? 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.160 Yeah, I going You guys have a friendship that goes 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.280 back decades. But I would like to start with Finishing Touches. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.240 It has two one act plays in nineteen ninety five. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.079 Why touches? 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:08.880 Right? 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.800 Can you can we pull up the image the Finishing Touches? 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.040 I was like, did we do some sort of corn 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:20.840 thing that I didn't. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:25.720 You don't remember Finishing Touches? No, that's what we called 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.480 the evening of one act You were in Women in Wallace. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.840 Yes, I could not remember the name of the and the. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.600 Tom sisters, Heather and Nicole Tom, and we just recently 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.120 reconnected with Nicole Tom and it was so fun to 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.520 like hang. And so Shiloh posted on Instagram the poster 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.920 which yes, yes, wow, you signed it to Nicole. This 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.960 is Nicole's copy apparently and you signed it. Yeah. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.960 God, why did Shiloh look like he was just kicked 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.160 out of the school for fame? 0:13:58.320 --> 0:13:58.800 Totally? 0:13:59.240 --> 0:13:59.720 Oh? 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.000 Yeah, So I was describing what Charlotte was like because 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.840 because Jensen, our producer and Danielle's husband, was like, Shiloh 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.000 had quite a quite a look going, oh yeah, you 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.600 don't even know the half of it. Because back then 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.520 he was wearing a fishing vest ye ye, with all 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.120 the pockets, and he would have a thermos full of 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.040 special tea that he would get at Earth Earth, get 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.240 the and I remember the smell of this. And then 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:24.479 he was always juggling. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.240 And the hackey sack. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:30.920 Yes, yes, he was like the goofiest, coolest guy ever. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.440 Like I wanted to get my hand into every single 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:35.920 one of those pockets of his. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.440 I thought you wanted to get your hands on Shilo. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.120 I did. I mean, I did get my hands on Shiloh. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.840 But I'm saying like I was. I had, Yeah, I 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.480 was had such a he was dreaming it, such a 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.040 crush on him. Was this the play that. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.120 You did that you guys wrote that was about magic, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:52.920 the gathering. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.760 Magic the gathering and oay, yeah, you guys all came 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.800 at something. I don't know if Daniel wouldn't remember, but yeah, 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.000 you guys all came. The entire cast of The Babysitters 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:06.560 Club came, which because Larissa brought they were working they 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.880 were making that movie, and so like a year later, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.680 year and a half later, when I met Rachel, she 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.080 was like, oh, I saw you in your play, and 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.720 she remembered coming to see because like everybody came. It 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.360 was like all of Diane Harden's, like all the actors, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.200 like everybody would come because it was like the thing 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.520 that we were doing. But yeah, it was a play 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.200 that Shiloh wrote called Shades of Blue, which is only like. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.200 And how old was Shiloh? 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:30.480 Sixteen? 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.560 Okay, I'd like to read you the tagline just so please. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.920 An exploration of relationships between friends and lovers from a 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:44.760 touching and often hysterically funny point of view. It feels 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.800 much more evolved than my mom taking a hundred pictures 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:48.640 of me and Andrew Koga. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.880 Like you, it was not as hilarious as often as 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:52.280 you thought. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.160 Women and Wallace was. It was a pretty great play 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.440 and it was just Shiloh and five actresses, and it 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.520 was like the whole idea, if I remember, was that 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.160 he was like a teenager and it was all these 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.320 different women playing different versions of like or his mom 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.560 commits her suicide and then like they're all the same girl, 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.160 but they're played by different actors. It was like a 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.840 really cool play and that was like a one act, 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.280 and then Shiloh wrote this other one act that was 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.360 like twenty or thirty minutes long, Shades of Blue, Shades 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.520 of Blue, which she ended up winning the Drama Logue 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.880 Award for, which was about me. I was a character 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:31.120 who was spending like I was like really sad, and 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.160 like my mom comes in and says, like, you're late, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.400 and then I like sit there and I'm like freaking 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.160 out and I'm really sad and you don't know why. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.120 And then a friend of mine shows up and we 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.920 like spend this time talking and hanging out, and then 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.000 he literally disappears and you realize that he's killed himself 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.040 and that the whole play was me trying to like 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.600 come to terms with him having died. Yeah, It's like 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.160 it was like really intense. Yeah, wow, so much that 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.960 William of Wallace whatever, that one Women in wa Yeah. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.360 Yeah, that was a play that would often be shown 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.680 at high schools, because I show I saw that play 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.720 ten times at a high school before I saw it 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.320 at Shiloh, and and I was like, oh, this one, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.920 so I'll never forget that. I know there's a famous Linemkers. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.840 I know how big my head is. So you can't 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.240 shrink my head because he's supposed to be the head shrinker, right, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:15.360 He's like, you can't shrink my. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.040 Head because I know the side of my head. And 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:18.720 I was like, oh, this is high school play. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.440 Yeah, yeah, well I think it was a great play 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.359 that involved high schoolers. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.760 This was like the perfect age actor play for people 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:28.680 our age at that time. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.840 That's like you always the other everybody does at some point. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.159 I remember that's what I did scenes for in our 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.200 acting class, and y'all, Rachel, Rachel and I did scenes 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.040 from out of Gas at Lovers Leap because it's like 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:44.400 again again suicide by the way, it's like to two 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.879 characters on their graduation night parking their car and like 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.000 talking about their life with like lots of Springsteen references, 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.160 and then they jump off the cloe. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.440 Yeah yeah, so tragic. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.760 Sorry, let's get back to but that actually, can I 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.680 ask a question because when in when y'all and Shiloh 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:08.440 reached out to me and I started watching the episodes 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:15.360 that I was in, I can't remember the timeline right, like, well, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.640 we in we were in an acting class with that 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:24.840 like sort of jolly but also in retrospect, creepy guy. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:29.120 Bruce Bruce our manager Bruce yep, yes, oh he. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:36.199 Was your manager. Oh sorry, the creepy. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.880 He directed the play and that's why he directed the play. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.920 So yeah, I couldn't remember how we met you except 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.159 from being on Boy Meets World. I'm assuming when you 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.440 were because you were on the first, first or second season. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.440 You were on an early episode and that's why when 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.560 I saw you pop up, but I was like Hillary, 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.480 and then you only had like one line. I was like, wait, 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.000 I thought she was a I thought she was like 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.040 a bigger part. And then of course you've since. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.280 Come back on more episodes, right, Well. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.320 We did. We did the play, I think. I think 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.720 probably during the second or third season of Boy the World. 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.840 I had met you, Yes, so we had met any 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.040 but then but then either you just got cast in 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.960 the play or did we you say we did acting 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.400 class before the play. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.679 I don't know, But don't you remember the acting class 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.639