Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk about something that just occurred
Speaker 1: to me, and I just want to hear you guys
Speaker 1: describe it, because it suddenly struck me as a little
Speaker 1: odd and it didn't quite make sense, but it was
Speaker 1: something that was just a huge part of our lives,
Speaker 1: and I want to hear it described because I think
Speaker 1: it's a little weird outside of Hollywood. Where did we park.
Speaker 2: On the lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like, how did that work?
Speaker 2: We had to signed parking spaces that like basically circled
Speaker 2: the stage. They were very close to the stage. We
Speaker 2: didn't have to walk far.
Speaker 1: So nobody else in the crew had parking spots like that.
Speaker 2: No, but I think some of the writers did.
Speaker 1: Children We're given parking spots where we didn't have to
Speaker 1: walk the what how far? Like two hundred yards from
Speaker 1: the park. But isn't that kind of bizarre when you
Speaker 1: think about it? Why were we granted great parking spots?
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll tell you. The argument is the same
Speaker 2: reason we all have anxiety around dressing and it needs
Speaker 2: to be done fast because the show's very tight schedule
Speaker 2: revolves around expediency. They need to make sure that if
Speaker 2: our call time is nine and we show up at
Speaker 2: eight fifty nine or on the dot nine that we
Speaker 2: are then parking our car and immediately on set in
Speaker 2: a short amount of time. And I don't think this
Speaker 2: will shock people that. I think most actors have the
Speaker 2: reputation for not being super timely or good at managing time,
Speaker 2: and so the idea that somebody would have to say, well,
Speaker 2: my call time's nine, but that means on set at nine,
Speaker 2: I have to walk fifteen minutes. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: have to get there at eight forty five, and I
Speaker 2: have to allow for traffic. So I, like a human
Speaker 2: being a job like, they try to take all of
Speaker 2: that out the situation for actors because we are catered
Speaker 2: to exactly.
Speaker 4: I think it's also one of the perks.
Speaker 3: It's one of the perks of getting there because I
Speaker 3: remember the first time driving up on set, the first
Speaker 3: thing I took a picture of was my parking space.
Speaker 4: With my name.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the coolest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: But that's the chair kind of ridiculous, Like doesn't that
Speaker 1: mean to me? It created It contributed to a culture
Speaker 1: that exacerbated two different tendencies. One we cared about our cars,
Speaker 1: like the presentation of a car was important, which is like,
Speaker 1: like no other aspect of my life has that ever,
Speaker 1: But I remember like what people drove like and how
Speaker 1: they pulled up because we'd see it, you'd pull up
Speaker 1: in front of it. And then the other thing that
Speaker 1: it contributed to is beam late, Like there was this
Speaker 1: sense of like, yeah, you could just pull in fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes late and everybody would be waiting for you and
Speaker 1: you'd pull up into your parking spot and jump out.
Speaker 1: And like I loved even like Kevin Kelton when he
Speaker 1: was like rider would drive this car. He like our
Speaker 1: our like culture revolved around like the fact that we
Speaker 1: had these parking spots, which is just so weird to me.
Speaker 1: And it's still like.
Speaker 5: That for actors.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Think it's just the directors, but I think it's it's
Speaker 3: I think it's also if you're the manager of the bank,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get a.
Speaker 2: Park number of parking spots you should they go to
Speaker 2: they go.
Speaker 4: To the piece.
Speaker 1: So why do we have parking spots and the like
Speaker 1: there should not be cars on the lot at all
Speaker 1: because that's super dangerous, Like you should be parking on
Speaker 1: a garage and then cars not drive cars driving on lots.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. It is purely to cater to
Speaker 1: the egos of the people that you're giving those that
Speaker 1: access to. It's like it's like having an extra bathroom
Speaker 1: for executives. It's so weird.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when we started at Disney, we were
Speaker 3: next to Home Improvement and there was always some amazingly
Speaker 3: cool car or two in Tim Allen.
Speaker 4: Spot, That's what I mean. And it was like, yeah
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 3: And I remember one time, so he's got a he
Speaker 3: I pull in and there's a brand new Porsche in
Speaker 3: his parking spot with a license plate that said Claus one.
Speaker 3: And it was because he had just done the Santa
Speaker 3: Claus and it did so well that Disney bought him
Speaker 3: a Porsche and had to me though.
Speaker 4: To this day, that's still the pinnacle.
Speaker 3: I want to do subthing where it's so good, where
Speaker 3: somebody's like, here's a Porsche, thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 4: It's great. It's only in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: My friend weird to me, and like I totally bought
Speaker 1: into it and like never questioned it. It was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm at sixteen, I have my own or even before that,
Speaker 1: I have my own parking spot and like everyone knew
Speaker 1: what car I was driving. Like it's so I remember,
Speaker 1: like I bought because all I wanted was an old convertible,
Speaker 1: like I wanted like a Karma Gia, and my parents
Speaker 1: wouldn't let me get it because they were like, that's
Speaker 1: an unsafe car. But I wanted like an old little convertible.
Speaker 1: And then will You were like, you got to get
Speaker 1: a BMW because that was like and so like I
Speaker 1: at seventeen, Yes, I at seventeen bought a BMW convertible.
Speaker 1: And then I was like driving around and I like,
Speaker 1: it's so weird, like I just don't like care about
Speaker 1: cars at all, like and I even then I don't
Speaker 1: think I did that much, but it became part of
Speaker 1: the thing. And then I remember I had an agent
Speaker 1: who joined the Savage agent. This woman joined the Savage
Speaker 1: and State, and I remember I pulled up in my
Speaker 1: car at one point she was like, why do you
Speaker 1: you really like you care about your car? And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah, I got a BMW. She was like,
Speaker 1: I just never I never saw you as that type
Speaker 1: of person, like it seems like a lot of money
Speaker 1: to like wait, and I remember being like, am I
Speaker 1: that type of person and like, yes, that's what it was,
Speaker 1: just this part of this culture and like I've never
Speaker 1: been that person since, like, but it was. It's so
Speaker 1: like La and.
Speaker 2: I s a Toyota four Runner as my first car.
Speaker 4: I still have my first car.
Speaker 1: Having an suv in LA is already a little ridiculous,
Speaker 1: especially at sixteen. That's a little and at that time
Speaker 1: that was the pinnacle of like cool and like, you
Speaker 1: never you don't need an.
Speaker 3: Suv, But having a parking space makes way more sense
Speaker 3: to me, Like caring about it's close to the set,
Speaker 3: I can get there on time. All this set makes
Speaker 3: way more sense to me than actors caring about where
Speaker 3: their name is listed in the credits, right, Like I
Speaker 3: would always get that my agent call me, going.
Speaker 4: Well, you're fourth on the call sheet. Are you okay
Speaker 4: with that?
Speaker 3: And I would always remember thinking to myself, why the
Speaker 3: hell do I care where my name is listed?
Speaker 4: I mean, performance speak for itself. I do not care
Speaker 4: where my name is.
Speaker 1: I would actually argue, I mean I think we might
Speaker 1: have hit on this a little bit. I feel like
Speaker 1: the opening credits of the first season of Boy MutS
Speaker 1: World were actually very good.
Speaker 4: For us, right They introduced you, but I don't care
Speaker 4: where I was.
Speaker 1: But being able to see your name with your picture
Speaker 1: was that the deal? And that doesn't happen anymore, no,
Speaker 1: And I actually think that that really it is good
Speaker 1: for actors, Like I like actors getting recognition. Like even
Speaker 1: now you think it's so cheesy at the end of
Speaker 1: like a movie or whatever when they like showed the
Speaker 1: actors and list them, But in reality that's cool. It's
Speaker 1: like a curtain call, you know.
Speaker 3: It's like when you have where you're listing shouldn't matter.
Speaker 4: It should be the performance that you're doing. So if
Speaker 4: you're listed.
Speaker 3: Second or seventh, you shouldn't be calling your agents based
Speaker 3: seven on the call sheet.
Speaker 1: But that's usually just based on the sides of your part, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that.
Speaker 2: Alsoways Like I also wonder how much of it is
Speaker 2: to a certain extent safety, Like I know, I was
Speaker 2: followed from the stage of Boy Meets World where it
Speaker 2: was after a live studio audience taping, and people parked
Speaker 2: outside of the gate where I exited. They watched me
Speaker 2: pull out and they followed me home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you got out of your car.
Speaker 2: I did. I got out of my car and yeah,
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just I just had this
Speaker 1: memory of like, and I think we told that will
Speaker 1: You told that one story when Dusty hits the car
Speaker 1: with the ball, and I was like, it is so
Speaker 1: weird to have these cars lined up in front of
Speaker 1: a stage, and yet we just totally that was our
Speaker 1: late second. And like, you think about how many crew
Speaker 1: members had to had to park like a normal human
Speaker 1: being and walk to work and be there on time.
Speaker 4: This makes so much sense. This is why every house
Speaker 4: you buy has no parking.
Speaker 1: That's just because I like houses that are slightly removed
Speaker 1: from like from parking, or from just from normal.
Speaker 3: Like rider can't dress without anxiety and doesn't want an
Speaker 3: he doesn't want park he wantsn't.
Speaker 4: Work to be as difficult as possible. It makes so
Speaker 4: much sense.
Speaker 2: You should have to hike a mile to my.
Speaker 3: House, and if you're backing out half your car should
Speaker 3: slam over this thing and we should have to call
Speaker 3: in tow trucks.
Speaker 1: I think there's truth to that. I think there's truth
Speaker 1: to that, because you know, the most beautiful wilderness experiences
Speaker 1: I've ever had, or when I've had to hike multiple
Speaker 1: days to get somewhere. You know, it's like if you
Speaker 1: can get there easily. We've talked about Grand Canyon. It's
Speaker 1: anti climactic. Like, so ease of access is is not great? Like, yes,
Speaker 1: I think I think having difficulty is good for us.
Speaker 2: Well, I like my parking space and I'm not giving
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel.
Speaker 4: I'm righter, strong, and I should be the first one
Speaker 4: to say my name.
Speaker 1: From now on.
Speaker 4: Now on, I'm wilfred Ell. Now you guys say you're.
Speaker 5: My god.
Speaker 2: I love it so much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love you guys.
Speaker 2: There is a very elite and small club when it
Speaker 2: comes to Boy Meets World, and for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 2: let's call it the Trifecta Gang. These are the actors
Speaker 2: who appeared on the show three times, but as three
Speaker 2: different characters.
Speaker 4: There's more than one of the Steve.
Speaker 5: There are.
Speaker 2: True inductees into this illustrious crew. First is the beloved
Speaker 2: Willie Garson, who played Leonard Spinelli Mervin from Merrill Lynch
Speaker 2: and the minister who married Corey into Panga in season seven.
Speaker 2: Second is Jonathan C. Kaplan, who played Herbert Simon and Alvin,
Speaker 2: which sure does sound a lot like the Chipmunks, it does.
Speaker 1: He was always the nerd character, Yes, they just kept
Speaker 1: changing which nerd name he.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's exactly.
Speaker 1: Give the kid the same name.
Speaker 4: And make it Mancus because they forgot.
Speaker 2: Also, it's worth noting that technically Phil Broccoli Leads could
Speaker 2: also fall into the but he plays two characters named
Speaker 2: Phil and one named Milton, So we'll leave it up
Speaker 2: to different correct because one of them is not the
Speaker 2: same soup pill.
Speaker 4: No, and then there's broccoli flap. Fill this broccoli flap Phil, right?
Speaker 1: So wait, okay, all right, sorry, gone on interest.
Speaker 2: So we'll leave whether or not he falls into this
Speaker 2: category up to you, our dear podcast listeners, to make
Speaker 2: that decision. I'm talking to you, specifically Melissa, but the
Speaker 2: third for sure member in this week's guest who you
Speaker 2: can call Samantha, Sarah or Kristen. In addition to this
Speaker 2: trio of characters on Boy Meets World, she is best
Speaker 2: known as Amy Zelinski in the Disney TV show for Honey,
Speaker 2: I Shrunk the Kids, or Betty Stoller in a pod
Speaker 2: meets World favorite film Camp Nowhere. She also appeared on
Speaker 2: the Saturday morning basketball sitcom Hangtime, Roseanne House, Gray's Anatomy,
Speaker 2: and the theatrical play with the Brothers Strong. She's a
Speaker 2: name that's already come up dozens of times on the podcast,
Speaker 2: and now we are honored to have her stop by.
Speaker 2: It's time to talk to Hillary Tuk. Hi, you got same?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you haven't aged?
Speaker 5: Oh my god. Flattery is so wonderful, isn't it true?
Speaker 3: Another one who has a painting of themselves someone they're attic?
Speaker 4: How do you do it? Unbelievable you have not aged?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to see you guys. Hi,
Speaker 5: my old friend. My gosh, it's forever.
Speaker 1: Know how you do it.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm doing well. I'm hanging in. How about y'all?
Speaker 1: Where are you in the world? Are you in Texas
Speaker 1: or you.
Speaker 5: No, I'm in Okay so much like Texas, so much
Speaker 5: like we call.
Speaker 2: We call in the Texas.
Speaker 1: That's far enough away that it takes three days and
Speaker 1: a lot of cows to get there. But yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We have no excuse to have not
Speaker 1: stayed in touch.
Speaker 5: No excuse.
Speaker 1: I assumed you'd left l a long ago, or you know,
Speaker 1: but I know, Okay, No.
Speaker 5: We're all We're all here, yeah, live in, Live in
Speaker 5: the Dream, right, Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I going You guys have a friendship that goes
Speaker 2: back decades. But I would like to start with Finishing Touches.
Speaker 2: It has two one act plays in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1: Why touches?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Can you can we pull up the image the Finishing Touches?
Speaker 5: I was like, did we do some sort of corn
Speaker 5: thing that I didn't.
Speaker 1: You don't remember Finishing Touches? No, that's what we called
Speaker 1: the evening of one act You were in Women in Wallace.
Speaker 5: Yes, I could not remember the name of the and the.
Speaker 1: Tom sisters, Heather and Nicole Tom, and we just recently
Speaker 1: reconnected with Nicole Tom and it was so fun to
Speaker 1: like hang. And so Shiloh posted on Instagram the poster
Speaker 1: which yes, yes, wow, you signed it to Nicole. This
Speaker 1: is Nicole's copy apparently and you signed it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: God, why did Shiloh look like he was just kicked
Speaker 3: out of the school for fame?
Speaker 1: Totally?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was describing what Charlotte was like because
Speaker 1: because Jensen, our producer and Danielle's husband, was like, Shiloh
Speaker 1: had quite a quite a look going, oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't even know the half of it. Because back then
Speaker 1: he was wearing a fishing vest ye ye, with all
Speaker 1: the pockets, and he would have a thermos full of
Speaker 1: special tea that he would get at Earth Earth, get
Speaker 1: the and I remember the smell of this. And then
Speaker 1: he was always juggling.
Speaker 2: And the hackey sack.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he was like the goofiest, coolest guy ever.
Speaker 5: Like I wanted to get my hand into every single
Speaker 5: one of those pockets of his.
Speaker 4: I thought you wanted to get your hands on Shilo.
Speaker 5: I did. I mean, I did get my hands on Shiloh.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying like I was. I had, Yeah, I
Speaker 5: was had such a he was dreaming it, such a
Speaker 5: crush on him. Was this the play that.
Speaker 3: You did that you guys wrote that was about magic,
Speaker 3: the gathering.
Speaker 1: Magic the gathering and oay, yeah, you guys all came
Speaker 1: at something. I don't know if Daniel wouldn't remember, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys all came. The entire cast of The Babysitters
Speaker 1: Club came, which because Larissa brought they were working they
Speaker 1: were making that movie, and so like a year later,
Speaker 1: year and a half later, when I met Rachel, she
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I saw you in your play, and
Speaker 1: she remembered coming to see because like everybody came. It
Speaker 1: was like all of Diane Harden's, like all the actors,
Speaker 1: like everybody would come because it was like the thing
Speaker 1: that we were doing. But yeah, it was a play
Speaker 1: that Shiloh wrote called Shades of Blue, which is only like.
Speaker 2: And how old was Shiloh?
Speaker 1: Sixteen?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd like to read you the tagline just so please.
Speaker 2: An exploration of relationships between friends and lovers from a
Speaker 2: touching and often hysterically funny point of view. It feels
Speaker 2: much more evolved than my mom taking a hundred pictures
Speaker 2: of me and Andrew Koga.
Speaker 3: Like you, it was not as hilarious as often as
Speaker 3: you thought.
Speaker 1: Women and Wallace was. It was a pretty great play
Speaker 1: and it was just Shiloh and five actresses, and it
Speaker 1: was like the whole idea, if I remember, was that
Speaker 1: he was like a teenager and it was all these
Speaker 1: different women playing different versions of like or his mom
Speaker 1: commits her suicide and then like they're all the same girl,
Speaker 1: but they're played by different actors. It was like a
Speaker 1: really cool play and that was like a one act,
Speaker 1: and then Shiloh wrote this other one act that was
Speaker 1: like twenty or thirty minutes long, Shades of Blue, Shades
Speaker 1: of Blue, which she ended up winning the Drama Logue
Speaker 1: Award for, which was about me. I was a character
Speaker 1: who was spending like I was like really sad, and
Speaker 1: like my mom comes in and says, like, you're late,
Speaker 1: and then I like sit there and I'm like freaking
Speaker 1: out and I'm really sad and you don't know why.
Speaker 1: And then a friend of mine shows up and we
Speaker 1: like spend this time talking and hanging out, and then
Speaker 1: he literally disappears and you realize that he's killed himself
Speaker 1: and that the whole play was me trying to like
Speaker 1: come to terms with him having died. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 1: it was like really intense. Yeah, wow, so much that
Speaker 1: William of Wallace whatever, that one Women in wa Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a play that would often be shown
Speaker 3: at high schools, because I show I saw that play
Speaker 3: ten times at a high school before I saw it
Speaker 3: at Shiloh, and and I was like, oh, this one,
Speaker 3: so I'll never forget that. I know there's a famous Linemkers.
Speaker 3: I know how big my head is. So you can't
Speaker 3: shrink my head because he's supposed to be the head shrinker, right,
Speaker 3: He's like, you can't shrink my.
Speaker 4: Head because I know the side of my head. And
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this is high school play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I think it was a great play
Speaker 1: that involved high schoolers.
Speaker 3: This was like the perfect age actor play for people
Speaker 3: our age at that time.
Speaker 1: That's like you always the other everybody does at some point.
Speaker 1: I remember that's what I did scenes for in our
Speaker 1: acting class, and y'all, Rachel, Rachel and I did scenes
Speaker 1: from out of Gas at Lovers Leap because it's like
Speaker 1: again again suicide by the way, it's like to two
Speaker 1: characters on their graduation night parking their car and like
Speaker 1: talking about their life with like lots of Springsteen references,
Speaker 1: and then they jump off the cloe.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so tragic.
Speaker 5: Sorry, let's get back to but that actually, can I
Speaker 5: ask a question because when in when y'all and Shiloh
Speaker 5: reached out to me and I started watching the episodes
Speaker 5: that I was in, I can't remember the timeline right, like, well,
Speaker 5: we in we were in an acting class with that
Speaker 5: like sort of jolly but also in retrospect, creepy guy.
Speaker 4: Bruce Bruce our manager Bruce yep, yes, oh he.
Speaker 5: Was your manager. Oh sorry, the creepy.
Speaker 1: He directed the play and that's why he directed the play.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I couldn't remember how we met you except
Speaker 1: from being on Boy Meets World. I'm assuming when you
Speaker 1: were because you were on the first, first or second season.
Speaker 1: You were on an early episode and that's why when
Speaker 1: I saw you pop up, but I was like Hillary,
Speaker 1: and then you only had like one line. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I thought she was a I thought she was like
Speaker 1: a bigger part. And then of course you've since.
Speaker 4: Come back on more episodes, right, Well.
Speaker 1: We did. We did the play, I think. I think
Speaker 1: probably during the second or third season of Boy the World.
Speaker 1: I had met you, Yes, so we had met any
Speaker 1: but then but then either you just got cast in
Speaker 1: the play or did we you say we did acting
Speaker 1: class before the play.
Speaker 5: I don't know, But don't you remember the acting class
Speaker 5: in Bruce's living room and it was you and me
Speaker 5: and Tom sisters and I don't know who else. It
Speaker 5: was like a collection of like up and coming young actors.
Speaker 1: Danielle ended up coming and will you came to and
Speaker 1: then I used to do it in my once I
Speaker 1: had my own apartment. We used to do like acting
Speaker 1: classes in my apartment too. Yeah, it was just like
Speaker 1: this revolving door of like let's all get together and
Speaker 1: the actor, Yeah, take ourselves really seriously and do.
Speaker 4: But that's what that's the thing is. But that's the
Speaker 4: thing that's so amazing.
Speaker 3: That's what I was saying about it being a high
Speaker 3: school play is having seen it in high school with
Speaker 3: the kind of high school actors and then seeing the
Speaker 3: exact same play with actors the same age that are professionals.
Speaker 4: It's night and day.
Speaker 3: And so that's what I mean by it's like I
Speaker 3: sat there going like, oh, that's this play Because you
Speaker 3: do see actors that are now fifteen, sixteen years old,
Speaker 3: but that are professional compared to like you're in some
Speaker 3: small high school somewhere. It's pretty amazing to see how
Speaker 3: the material is so different when you've got vessels that
Speaker 3: know what they're doing, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean. It was It was odd. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was a hillary.
Speaker 2: How did you get into acting as a child. I
Speaker 2: think we both got started similarly with commercials.
Speaker 5: We did get I think we have that in common.
Speaker 5: We probably don't have. I got into acting sort of.
Speaker 5: I grew up in a small town in Texas, and I,
Speaker 5: is it in Sinoes.
Speaker 1: In Texas, Texas?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Was it? Colleen?
Speaker 5: You have not lost your comedic time. So small town
Speaker 5: in Texas, raised by a single mom who also was
Speaker 5: bipolar schizophrenic, so it made for a very very interesting,
Speaker 5: colorful childhood. And we my freshman year of high school,
Speaker 5: I went to a military boarding school by choice to
Speaker 5: sort of, I think my family, to sort of.
Speaker 2: Give yourself some space.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but my aunt lived out. You may remember her,
Speaker 5: writer Kelly. She was like my Yeah, she was my
Speaker 5: guardian and she was my everything. So her and I
Speaker 5: were very close. And she said, why don't you come
Speaker 5: out to LA for the summer and act? And my
Speaker 5: parents were like, sure, go to LA for the summer.
Speaker 5: And I got an agent, Ruth Devron, and she said, well,
Speaker 5: if you book something, you have to say through pilot season.
Speaker 5: And pilot season at that time, you guys, remember it
Speaker 5: was September and October. So I booked a dark repor commercial.
Speaker 5: And I think up until that point it wasn't acting
Speaker 5: that I really loved. I think it was the idea
Speaker 5: of getting out of my circumstances and like this was
Speaker 5: a vehicle to do that. But then I did the
Speaker 5: commercial and I was like, oh, this is so cool.
Speaker 5: So I got to stay for pilot season, didn't book anything,
Speaker 5: and I was supposed to come home, and however my
Speaker 5: boarding school would not take me back in the middle
Speaker 5: of the semester. Oh save, So I got to stay
Speaker 5: through January, and like right before Christmas, I auditioned to
Speaker 5: play this like very sad, see straightforward bitchy character in
Speaker 5: Camp Nowhere, and I auditioned for it and nothing happened.
Speaker 5: So I moved all of my stuff home, and I'll
Speaker 5: never forget. Like four days before Christmas, I get a
Speaker 5: phone call at my grandmother's house and it is Jonathan Prince,
Speaker 5: the director of Camp Nowhere, calling me directly to say,
Speaker 5: what is this. I hear you moved home. You've got
Speaker 5: to come and do my movie. It's such a Hollywood
Speaker 5: like oh, and so I moved on my Yeah, I
Speaker 5: moved all my stuff back. And then but in order like,
Speaker 5: in order to keep doing this and being on set,
Speaker 5: I we told my parents we needed to have guardianship.
Speaker 5: My aunt needed to have guardianship, and so they signed
Speaker 5: my guardianship over to her thinking it was just for
Speaker 5: the movie, and I never came back and I just
Speaker 5: day Yeah. Yeah, So working kept me out there. The
Speaker 5: deal was always like I had to support myself. They
Speaker 5: weren't going to send me any money. But it worked
Speaker 5: out that I was able to support myself, and so
Speaker 5: then I just I stayed and I kept I kept working,
Speaker 5: and not long after Camp Nowhere I did Boy Me Swirrels.
Speaker 5: It was one of my first jobs.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. How old were you when all this was
Speaker 4: going on with Camp Nowhere?
Speaker 2: It was nineteen.
Speaker 5: I moved out here when I was fourteen. I did
Speaker 5: Camp Nowhere. I think when I was right when I
Speaker 5: turned fifteen.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, young, you were like already doing the full
Speaker 1: on adult thing by yourself.
Speaker 5: I think they had grown up very quickly by.
Speaker 2: You were probably apparent in your home.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I like I remember recently like telling my
Speaker 5: kids I was annoyed at what they weren't doing, and
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, so when I was your age,
Speaker 5: when I was nine, I was waking up to the alarm,
Speaker 5: waking my mother up, then making breakfast, then putting a
Speaker 5: load of laundry, and then you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like right, so put your goddamn shoes on. We're late
Speaker 1: for school. Goddamn, I need breakfast for you. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: this is what I I've already caught myself telling Indy
Speaker 1: was like I already had a job. I was already
Speaker 1: doing my miss what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Oh my.
Speaker 1: God hates it already does already hates that I was
Speaker 1: a kid actor because I could throw that in his face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, man. Well let's talk a little bit
Speaker 2: more about camp nowhere. It was nineteen ninety four. It's
Speaker 2: like who's who of kid actors at the time. Jonathan,
Speaker 2: Really it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like the movie everybody wanted apart because
Speaker 1: there were like fifty parts in it. And I think
Speaker 1: I went back like multiple times like no, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be Ronnie, No, you'll be this. You know. She just
Speaker 1: kept like mixing and matching all of young Hollywood.
Speaker 5: And now I wish you would have didn't get it.
Speaker 1: I've seen it.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Jackson, who ended up being on Boy Meets World
Speaker 2: for an episode recent Yeah, he played He played the
Speaker 2: guy who takes Topanga on a date after Corey cheats
Speaker 2: on Topanga. He's in the Starry Night episode. Recent guest
Speaker 2: of the on our podcast Andrew Keagan, Alison Mack, Jessica Biele,
Speaker 2: and also in it, Heather DeLoach, best known as the
Speaker 2: Bee Girl in Blind Melons.
Speaker 5: No Way, that's incredible. Wow, I remember I remember her
Speaker 5: being it was like such a coupe was on set,
Speaker 5: like she was were she was the most famous person.
Speaker 5: She was the most famous kid of course for the
Speaker 5: Bee Girl. Yeah, uh yeah, it was. It was such
Speaker 5: an incredible unique experience because we shot on the Disney ranch,
Speaker 5: so you're out in the middle of nowhere literally and
Speaker 5: it was just all these young actors. I was one
Speaker 5: of the oldest. I remember that that. I was. Me
Speaker 5: and Devin Oatway were two of the oldest, and it
Speaker 5: was just you were either in a classroom goofing off
Speaker 5: I mean you know how yeah, not set school school,
Speaker 5: but it's not really school doing. There's like goofing off
Speaker 5: and doing school, or we were filming being in a
Speaker 5: summer camp. Yeah, it was just incredible. It was I'm going.
Speaker 2: To assume that wasn't the same experience you had at
Speaker 2: boarding school, and we've already heard that it wasn't the
Speaker 2: experience you had at home where you were very much
Speaker 2: the adult in your household. So what was it like
Speaker 2: for you to be in a rather protect did, super
Speaker 2: fun place surrounded by like minded kids your own age.
Speaker 2: Was that like a very freeing experience. It feels like
Speaker 2: it would be life changing.
Speaker 5: You ask good questions, Danielle, Yeah, it was, you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why would just keep our mouth shut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was very It was wonderful. I think one of
Speaker 5: the things that made me fall in love with being
Speaker 5: on set is the schedule, the predictability of it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the people telling me what to do, what to wear. Obviously,
Speaker 5: the gratification and the oh you're funny, you're pretty, you're good,
Speaker 5: or whatever. But I think this schedule of it, and
Speaker 5: I think that what my childhood did prepare me for
Speaker 5: is when you are a child actor, you you are.
Speaker 5: It is a real asset to be mature and professional
Speaker 5: and to be able to handle yourself. Yes, I was.
Speaker 5: I was very practiced in that, so that was a
Speaker 5: really sharp tool that I had in my toolbox. And
Speaker 5: I think, I think, I do think it is is
Speaker 5: an aspect of why I worked very quickly and very steadily,
Speaker 5: because I think producers or sets or whoever recognize that
Speaker 5: and it and it behooves them.
Speaker 3: They want an adult in a child's body. Yes, that's
Speaker 3: that's what they're looking for. They want a little adult
Speaker 3: in a child's body. And it's so funny because the
Speaker 3: things you're mentioning about the structure and everything is exactly
Speaker 3: what you get at a military boarding school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but it is. It's that same thing.
Speaker 3: It's you're going to eat this time, You're going to
Speaker 3: wear this when you're there, You're going to do these
Speaker 3: chores you're going to do. It sounded like that's what
Speaker 3: you were looking for, was more of the structure that
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I find so fascinating is that, like Hillary just mentioned,
Speaker 2: for most kids, the feeling you have if you started
Speaker 2: working as a child is a lot of times you
Speaker 2: look back and you think, but needing to be so
Speaker 2: mature made me miss out on a true childhood. I've
Speaker 2: been an adult since I was so long, for so long,
Speaker 2: since I was so young. And in her case, she
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you're going to tell me when to
Speaker 2: show up. I don't have to make the schedule myself
Speaker 2: and do the work of it. So, if anything, the
Speaker 2: fact that it was set up for you allowed you
Speaker 2: more of an opportunity to be a kid than you
Speaker 2: had ever had before. You were like, yeah, the maturity
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring no matter what, because it's all
Speaker 2: I've known. But now you set the schedule, you tell
Speaker 2: me what to wear, you do my hair and makeup,
Speaker 2: and then when I do a good job, you tell
Speaker 2: me I'm doing a good job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I get to play a kid who's playing right?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was. It was a really special I've
Speaker 5: been so blessed to have a few really special experiences,
Speaker 5: but Camp Camp Nowhere was really one of them for sure.
Speaker 2: Wow, I love it.
Speaker 3: So if we do a rewatch, will you of Camp Nowhere?
Speaker 3: Will you come back and watch it with us?
Speaker 5: Oh my god? Yes? And if you have, like your
Speaker 5: son is is how old?
Speaker 3: Nine?
Speaker 5: Nine? Yeah, it's the perfect time to watch the movie.
Speaker 5: It's it like I don't I don't want to go
Speaker 5: so far to say it holds up, but it holds up,
Speaker 5: and it holds up for a nine year old, it
Speaker 5: holds out. It's really fun. It's definitely the time to
Speaker 5: watch it.
Speaker 3: I should do that. I haven't seen that. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen it either, so I'd like to watch that. I've
Speaker 3: now heard so much about this movie.
Speaker 5: And I would have to make fun of it with you.
Speaker 5: We should have to have a whole like me and
Speaker 5: Andrew and whoever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do it?
Speaker 4: Oh it sounds great.
Speaker 2: Can we talk hangtime for a second.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So you appeared in thirteen episodes as team manager Samantha
Speaker 2: Morgan and it has really built like a niche cult
Speaker 2: following as the spiritual TNBC sister of Saved by the Bell.
Speaker 2: So it's so nostalgic now, especially among basketball fans. And
Speaker 2: I would just like to name some of the other
Speaker 2: guest stars Anthony Anderson, Jay Hernandez, dick Butt, Kiss Screech
Speaker 2: in a crossover episode, Muggsy Bogues, Lizza Leslie Florence, Griffith Joyner,
Speaker 2: and an eighteen year old NBA rookie named Kobe Bryant. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love Do you remember what you were up?
Speaker 4: And Tom was a great show. It was.
Speaker 5: It was a really fun show. I remember. So I
Speaker 5: want to say that I want to say this begare
Speaker 5: does it relate? I want to go back to the
Speaker 5: first episode that I did of Boy Meets World, because
Speaker 5: I think it does relate to Hangtime because did I
Speaker 5: do Boy Meets World first, or did I do Hangtime first?
Speaker 5: I did Boy Meets World first. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think boy meets were yeah, boy meets Yeah, boy
Speaker 2: Mee's World was ninety five.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
Speaker 5: So what I remember about the first episode of Boy
Speaker 5: Meets World is that I started watching it and I
Speaker 5: didn't remember I had been in it. I had conflated
Speaker 5: the first and the second episode together, because in the
Speaker 5: first episode I only have one line. What is interesting
Speaker 5: is that when I watched it, I remembered two things. One,
Speaker 5: I was deathly afraid I was going to get fired
Speaker 5: because Michael Jacobs. All I have is this like look
Speaker 5: up and over and I say my line high corey
Speaker 5: or whatever. And I can remember him basically giving me
Speaker 5: a line, reading a physical line, reading like like no no, no, no,
Speaker 5: no no, like this, and he showed me what to do,
Speaker 5: and luckily I was able to be a puppet and
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 3: Well, that's acting, right, everyone knows, everyone knows.
Speaker 4: Ignore your instincts and just parrot what you yourself.
Speaker 1: Don't make any choices, just do exactly what this man wants.
Speaker 5: And I can remember being like terrified that I wasn't
Speaker 5: going to do it the way he wanted, and that
Speaker 5: I was going to get fired. And the other memory
Speaker 5: that I have is that what was crazy to me
Speaker 5: is as I'm watching the rest of the episode I
Speaker 5: knew probably thirty percent of y'all's lines as they were
Speaker 5: about to be said. And why I remember this is
Speaker 5: my aunt would have me sit in the stands when
Speaker 5: I wasn't doing homework, way in the back, and she
Speaker 5: would have me study y'all. Wow, And because I was
Speaker 5: so new to it, and so she was like she
Speaker 5: wanted me to study and notice not only like the
Speaker 5: comedic timing and set up, set up, punchline and yes
Speaker 5: and and all of those things, and also how do
Speaker 5: series regulars behave on set? Right? What is the like? What? How?
Speaker 5: What does it look like? And so she would have
Speaker 5: me just sit back there and just watch them. And
Speaker 5: the feeling that I remember because I remember she said
Speaker 5: to me, is this what you want? Do you want
Speaker 5: something like this? And I remember having the thought that
Speaker 5: it And I don't know if this was y'all experience.
Speaker 5: My impression of y'all is that it seemed like y'all
Speaker 5: had a lot of pressure on you, like there was
Speaker 5: there was a lot writing on the four shoulders of
Speaker 5: the minors, right, and and that I also wanted.
Speaker 2: It, and that it was fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was fun. Yes, it did seem like
Speaker 5: it was. There was a lot of it. I don't know,
Speaker 5: it just seemed like a lot of pressure. So when
Speaker 5: I got hang time and I was a series regular,
Speaker 5: I think, like, I can't tell you specifically what I
Speaker 5: gleaned from y'all, but I definitely was a case study
Speaker 5: and I definitely use some of that in like being
Speaker 5: a professional and how to be a series regular, because
Speaker 5: you know, being a series regular is different than being
Speaker 5: a guest star, so and your job is different.
Speaker 4: So uh yeah.
Speaker 5: It was a great thirteen episodes until I got fired
Speaker 5: after the first season off. Yeah, I'm only in the
Speaker 5: first season. I was fired.
Speaker 4: What happened? And we asked, what happened?
Speaker 1: They just write you off?
Speaker 5: They just wrote me off. Samantha Morgan, lead team manager.
Speaker 5: I think they wanted to retool the show they make it.
Speaker 5: By the way, I was not the only one fired.
Speaker 5: I think they let go of a third of the cast,
Speaker 5: and I was one of them. And there was never
Speaker 5: like a like Warren Littlefield was not calling me up
Speaker 5: and be like, Hillary, we love your work, we've decided
Speaker 5: to go in a different direction. It was none of that.
Speaker 5: It was my agent saying you're not coming back on
Speaker 5: to the next and then I was, I was, I
Speaker 5: was devastated. But you know then I then I booked
Speaker 5: another series and it was meant to be. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it was. It was fun for those thirteen episodes. We
Speaker 5: had a lot of hijinks.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about your three characters on Boy Meets World.
Speaker 4: You're rafied. You're in a rarefied club.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Did anyone else have that? Have you had
Speaker 5: guest stars who come back because rent?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, Phil Leads also played three different characters, Willy Garrison,
Speaker 2: Willie Garson played three different characters, and one of our
Speaker 2: nerdy characters from the beginning, Jonathan Kaplan Jonathan C.
Speaker 5: Kaplin Exactly so, and so did any of them have
Speaker 5: an idea as to why they were given different character names?
Speaker 2: Well, we haven't been able to ask Phil Leads. He's
Speaker 2: he's died in like ninety eight.
Speaker 5: He died.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, he's been unavailable since unavailable. Willie Garson is
Speaker 2: also unavailable, and we haven't talked to Jonathan Kaplan, I think.
Speaker 1: You were probably just a favorite of Michael and the
Speaker 1: and the casting team, you know, like they just must
Speaker 1: have Sally and Barbie just must have loved you. And
Speaker 1: they were like, well, let's just bring Hillary back and
Speaker 1: they were like, yes, did you?
Speaker 4: Did you have to audition all three times?
Speaker 5: I auditioned for the first two and like what I
Speaker 5: remember of what I remember of the second episode, like
Speaker 5: Barbie Blair was such a was such a fan of mine,
Speaker 5: and I'm sure you guys have had this too, Like
Speaker 5: there's just certain casting directors who have been instrumental, even
Speaker 5: if they didn't hire you in something of just making you,
Speaker 5: reminding you of your value. Yea, and Barbie Block was
Speaker 5: one of those for me. And uh so, yeah the
Speaker 5: second episode. I did audition four and it was should
Speaker 5: we talk about the second episode now?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: That great?
Speaker 5: Okay, I did audition four. What I remember about it
Speaker 5: is it was my favorite of the three, yes, because
Speaker 5: I got, like I remember experiencing in that booth with
Speaker 5: you and Ben like a really playing being allowed to
Speaker 5: play a little bit and it wasn't so micro managed
Speaker 5: and having fun and I was funny. I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I got jokes, which is always nice. And I can
Speaker 5: remember going from it was such a one eighty moment
Speaker 5: for me because the first episode, Michael was to me,
Speaker 5: he didn't seem like someone who always knew how to
Speaker 5: talk to a child, very gradius. Oh okay, okay, so
Speaker 5: this is something that you've talked about before. Wonderful yes,
Speaker 5: And I was. I was really afraid of him. And
Speaker 5: then after we did the second episode me I remember
Speaker 5: coming off and I was walking around the ramp to
Speaker 5: the backside, and he stopped me. And I don't know
Speaker 5: who he was talking to, somebody, an executive or someone,
Speaker 5: and he was like, this, this is a funny girl.
Speaker 5: We need more of this. She gets it. And it
Speaker 5: was I've had like that moment and then a moment
Speaker 5: with Rose and Barr of these like paradigm shifts of
Speaker 5: me going, oh, I'm funny, I can do this. I'm enough,
Speaker 5: you know I And it was it was like a
Speaker 5: huge boost of confidence for me of like being giving
Speaker 5: myself permission, of like I'm on the right track, my
Speaker 5: instincts are good. Whatever. So yeah that I remember it
Speaker 5: being a really fun episode. And even when I saw it,
Speaker 5: there's plenty of things that I see twenty years later
Speaker 5: and I'm not I have to just go Well, I
Speaker 5: was young and I've learned a lot, but I'm still
Speaker 5: proud of that. I thought it was a fun, it
Speaker 5: was a fun character.
Speaker 2: It was super fun. And so then you auditioned for
Speaker 2: those first two and then you get asked back to
Speaker 2: do the absolutely iconic, not necessarily incredible, but iconic Disney
Speaker 2: World episode.
Speaker 1: And it's a character.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, So they Barbie Block called and
Speaker 5: said they want to have you back one more time.
Speaker 5: We can't have you back more than three times because
Speaker 5: then we have to pay you recurring character rate.
Speaker 4: Really, so I did not know that at all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this will be your last episode. But because
Speaker 5: it's your last episode, we want to take you. We
Speaker 5: want you to be in the Disney World episode. Wow,
Speaker 5: you do know, which was so lovely. The first time
Speaker 5: i'd been off for a role, I didn't have to
Speaker 5: audition for it. It's the first time that I got
Speaker 5: to go anywhere and someone, and you know, traveling on
Speaker 5: your our own is very different than the network traveling you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I felt really special. And then I got the
Speaker 5: script and like, oh, I'm going to play a soon
Speaker 5: to be stalker and like this characters learning how to
Speaker 5: be a stalker awesome, and it was it was thankless.
Speaker 5: It was one note, but I had so much fun.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just that.
Speaker 1: And by that point we had already done the play.
Speaker 1: We were already friends, like yeah, it was so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we we it was, it was, it was, it
Speaker 5: was great. It was have we done the play by then?
Speaker 1: And we must have? Yeah, because that was ninety six,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and we've done the play in ninety five,
Speaker 1: so yeah. Yeah. So I wonder if if it was
Speaker 1: because of your second Boy Meets World appearance that you
Speaker 1: were in the play like I won, Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: wonder if it was just like, oh we should just yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: My guess is that Bruce and get Kelly connected because
Speaker 5: Bruce was around, Kelly was around, and Kelly probably got
Speaker 5: me in Bruce's acting.
Speaker 1: Class, right, so then we were just in acting class.
Speaker 1: We were like, let's put together a play. Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. And then I got to go up and
Speaker 5: and visit Writer and Shiloh and their their Shire house,
Speaker 5: which was incredible.
Speaker 2: The best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did he show you his grappling hook?
Speaker 5: Is that some sort of.
Speaker 4: He literally grappling hook.
Speaker 1: I hadn't made it yet, guys. Okay, well, actually maybe
Speaker 1: I have lost it, but lost it was.
Speaker 2: The tree somewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember the graph. I remember them teaching
Speaker 5: me magic. I remember playing magic with with Writer and
Speaker 5: Shiloh and Nate. I remember like just coming to I
Speaker 5: remember being so enchant with your family because I came
Speaker 5: and it was more the lifestyle, Like I grew up
Speaker 5: in the country, but this was like a decidedly hippie lifestyle,
Speaker 5: which coming from Texas, I was not used to. And
Speaker 5: like coming in and meeting miss Lynn and mister King
Speaker 5: in this shire of redwood forest trees they like he
Speaker 5: built with his bare hands, and and like your mom
Speaker 5: was like so loving and nurturing, and I just remember
Speaker 5: like just falling in love with the family like that
Speaker 5: sort of like it felt so normal to me. And
Speaker 5: I'm sure like every family is quirky and not as
Speaker 5: normal as they seem, but to me, it was like
Speaker 5: this house full of dependability and everyone was so unaffected
Speaker 5: by and you and your brother.
Speaker 1: It's still there. It's still there, and it's still he
Speaker 1: was lovely and welcoming. No, it's way more beautiful than
Speaker 1: it used to be like my dad just kept building stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean now he's eighty one, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the place is gorgeous and like, yeah, we go up
Speaker 1: all the time. It's it's lovely. It's so you got
Speaker 1: to come up, bring your kids, it's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was many kids have super special I have too.
Speaker 5: How old are seven and nine? Amazing?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Indy will have a blast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to come up, come up to the Shire.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they and was your I remember mister King being
Speaker 5: like very mister King.
Speaker 1: He's healthier than me right now, like he could still
Speaker 1: still at eighty one. He has more fit than me.
Speaker 1: He could kick my ass.
Speaker 5: Right because I remember me like the peak of fitness.
Speaker 2: He's amazed, like a specimen of a man.
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, it still is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So going back to Florida episodes taking us from the
Speaker 2: Shire back to Florida. Do you have no no, no,
Speaker 2: we the detour. Do you have any like specific behind
Speaker 2: the scenes memories or on the scenes memories about being
Speaker 2: in Florida? Did you ride any rides fifty times?
Speaker 5: Oh? Oh so I remember thinking I was like I
Speaker 5: had made it. This was the pinnacle, the zenith of
Speaker 5: my career, like screw oscars.
Speaker 1: This backstage at Disney World.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that we had and I think, now you can
Speaker 5: pay for these, but at the time you could not
Speaker 5: pay for these. No have a personal.
Speaker 1: Guide, guest relations, gest.
Speaker 5: Relations, and I just remember it would be like, okay,
Speaker 5: now we're going to move to this other set and
Speaker 5: all of us would run to this guide and he
Speaker 5: would take us to the front of the line to
Speaker 5: a right Yeah. And I was with like I wasn't recognizable,
Speaker 5: but all of you were recognizable. So there was It
Speaker 5: was like my first brush of this is what fame is.
Speaker 5: No photographs, please, you don't know.
Speaker 1: Terror one more time, let's go we could.
Speaker 5: Just really I remember that. And I remember there being
Speaker 5: a cast dinner at a new restaurant at Cot the
Speaker 5: like whatever. The coolest one was.
Speaker 1: The Italian one? Was it?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: And I remember a very long table with all of us.
Speaker 2: Remember I remember that dinner too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So these all sound like amazing story his career.
Speaker 3: Not I'll get there eventually, but this is it sounds
Speaker 3: like you guys had a blast.
Speaker 4: We did, we did.
Speaker 5: It was it was really fun. Will. What I remember
Speaker 5: about you is like one he's an adult like don't
Speaker 5: talk to him, but like also just your uh you
Speaker 5: were so sharp on set, Like that's what I remember, like,
Speaker 5: I remember you being sharp. I remember I remember you
Speaker 5: seeing watching you do scenes, and like you would do
Speaker 5: it again and again and again. And what was incredible
Speaker 5: about was that you you had the underpinnings of the comedy,
Speaker 5: like you understood the comedy of it, but you were
Speaker 5: able to play within that musicality. And I remember that.
Speaker 5: I remember being very impressed by that. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll trade it all to go to Florida. Sounds
Speaker 4: like it would have been fun once in an.
Speaker 2: Italian restaurant with all these great young child actors as
Speaker 2: opposed to uh, just taco bell at home and being funny.
Speaker 5: Do you do you think they still because what I
Speaker 5: I remember about those what was special about the restaurants
Speaker 5: is you could go to a different world. Yeah, different
Speaker 5: like you could go to China or you could go
Speaker 5: to Italy. And what I remember is that in the
Speaker 5: world I would probably they don't have it because it
Speaker 5: would be like this weird appropriation thing of like them
Speaker 5: dressing in cartoonish Italian get garburb and cartoonishes like Japanese
Speaker 5: it's probably.
Speaker 1: Not actually hired people from those countries to work there.
Speaker 1: That was always Is that still the way it works, like.
Speaker 4: I hope. So I haven't been to Epcot in forever.
Speaker 3: Did they still gay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they give you that passport.
Speaker 3: I still have my Epcot passport and you get it
Speaker 3: stamped at every every country you go to. And then
Speaker 3: when you got older, Epcot was the only place at
Speaker 3: the time on Disney property where you could buy alcohol.
Speaker 3: So when you hit twenty one, then you would do
Speaker 3: called drinking around the world, and you saw how many
Speaker 3: times you could make it around having a drink in
Speaker 3: each country, and you know, there's people that.
Speaker 4: Are like my third time around the world.
Speaker 3: That are just hammered it Disney World. Yeah, was that
Speaker 3: it was much different when you were over twenty one
Speaker 3: by that point.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's so interesting. That feels very in Disney like
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you can do that anymore. I don't
Speaker 4: think they I'm not sure they allow it anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was your like, who was your crew? Who
Speaker 2: was your group of friends in Los Angeles?
Speaker 5: Well around that time, truly, I think writer and and
Speaker 5: and Shiloh and the Tom sisters, like that was a
Speaker 5: part of it.
Speaker 1: And then and used to come to our house and
Speaker 1: scene I remember we had a house in Encino, I
Speaker 1: mean Texas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean Texas, that's right.
Speaker 1: And with the pool yeah, so that would have been yeah.
Speaker 5: And then I think that sort of ended when Shiloh
Speaker 5: when I brought Shiloh home to meet my family, and uh, he.
Speaker 2: Tell us the details he was when did you guys?
Speaker 2: Do you guys dated?
Speaker 5: Yes, we dated. That's why I would go up and visit.
Speaker 5: That was another thing that I remember, like, how cool
Speaker 5: how miss Lynn and mister King they're letting us sleep
Speaker 5: in the same room together while I visit.
Speaker 1: Likes basically in our family, you were grown up at
Speaker 1: eleven years old?
Speaker 3: Just right?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, when you were older? I was, I was,
Speaker 5: but yeah, and then I made the dire mistake of
Speaker 5: bringing him home to visit my family, which is have
Speaker 5: you guys ever seen did you guys see this last
Speaker 5: season of The Bear?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So the flashback episode, Danielle, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, I've never seen it even Oh.
Speaker 5: God, okay, well when you see it, the flashback episode
Speaker 5: of them growing up? That was my family, so not
Speaker 5: different for Shiloh. And so.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to ask about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I was there. It's been two guys
Speaker 5: in my life who had like really like broken my heart,
Speaker 5: and truthfully, Shilah was one of them. Because we were
Speaker 5: in Texas, Nate and his girlfriend came down to visit.
Speaker 5: We went and saw the bat Caves. I thought everything
Speaker 5: was going well, and then Shilah woke up and he
Speaker 5: was like, Hey, I'm gonna go because I don't I
Speaker 5: don't want to do this, and I think you think that,
Speaker 5: like I'm your boyfriend and I'm not.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I remember driving in silence the hour to
Speaker 5: go from Kerrville to the UH to San Antonio to
Speaker 5: drop off off of the airport. My mom's radio did
Speaker 5: not work, so it was just us in silence.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. I just remember being I remember being
Speaker 1: sad because I was like, oh, you're not dating Hillar
Speaker 1: and he was like no. I came home and I remember,
Speaker 1: like what.
Speaker 5: In retrospect, I can't believe he hung out as long
Speaker 5: as he did. Like Shiloh and you were both old souls,
Speaker 5: but in this retro in this situation, you guys were
Speaker 5: he was way too ginger to be thrown it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: I think it might have just been commitment in general.
Speaker 1: I don't think, because I don't remember any him saying
Speaker 1: anything negative about Texas or you or your family at all.
Speaker 1: All I remember is him just being like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a relationship. I'm not ready here.
Speaker 5: Let's be clear. It was my family, not me. Don't
Speaker 5: ruin this for me.
Speaker 1: It was the commitment, is what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: commitment and nothing to do with He was just like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: we're like dating now. Oh And it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: dumb ass, you're going to visit her in Texas. Of
Speaker 1: course you're dating. But I think he like woke up
Speaker 1: and was like what she live? Boyfriend? Girlfriend? No, which
Speaker 1: is just like being whatever eighteen seventeen and being like
Speaker 1: I don't have to be in a relationship with somebody,
Speaker 1: what an idiot? No, never about you or no, like yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he just freaked out about commitment and like being dating somebody.
Speaker 5: I I hold so much love for Shiloh.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you guys just recently talked. He was
Speaker 1: like that he brought you up, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: we would try to get. We should have her on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, that's so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fear of commitment was something he had in his
Speaker 2: fisherman's vest. Who could have seen it coming.
Speaker 1: Deep in one of those pottle back hidden pocket.
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: To his pipe and smoking and then jump up pipe.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, he smoked a.
Speaker 1: Pipe, isn't it ridiculous? With a bowling hat, with a
Speaker 1: bowler hat smoking a pipe and hacky sacking and and
Speaker 1: and juggling and cycles he could he learned how to
Speaker 1: use cycles. I mean, this man and he was still cool,
Speaker 1: Like that's what's amazing. You take the accumulation and you
Speaker 1: described Shiloh at sixteen and you're like, what a dorky,
Speaker 1: weird theater to and instead it was like and effortlessly
Speaker 1: cool and him when you were like, wow, this got Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a very strange vibe, like it is. I
Speaker 1: guess in a way it would be like a burning
Speaker 1: man vibe now, but it wasn't then. It was just
Speaker 1: cool in its own sort of way.
Speaker 3: It's like a whole bunch of really bizarre ingredients that
Speaker 3: somehow still make a really good dish. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 3: how did those five things equals something amazing.
Speaker 1: Ninety six. It's a good vintage fun can't commit, don't commit,
Speaker 1: don't take him home.
Speaker 2: I want to get to you. Starring in the TV
Speaker 2: version of Honey I Shrunk the Kids, which was massive
Speaker 2: because the movie was so popular. The promotional tour for
Speaker 2: this must have been insane for you. Was this a
Speaker 2: fun experience considering all the effects and Peter Scillari playing
Speaker 2: your dad? Like, was it an overall great experience?
Speaker 5: Oh? My gosh, it was. It was the best experience.
Speaker 5: It was. We were I left. I left my sophomore
Speaker 5: year of college to go up there and shoot it.
Speaker 5: It was Peter Sclari who I worked on in Camp Nowhere.
Speaker 4: Oh, he was in Camp Nowhere too.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, and then Barbara Allan Woods who played my mom,
Speaker 5: who ended up very quickly we became best friends. We
Speaker 5: moved in together for about three months into the first season.
Speaker 5: We loved each other so much.
Speaker 1: Where were in Canada or Yeah?
Speaker 5: We were shooting in Calgary, which is like Texas. It
Speaker 5: is the Texas of Canada. And I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 5: the god daughter to her oldest daughter. I stood at
Speaker 5: her wedding like and we were we were family really
Speaker 5: and Peter. I feel like my real education and comedy
Speaker 5: came from Peter, Like he taught me. He taught me comedy,
Speaker 5: and he taught me how to be a number one
Speaker 5: on the set, like what is it like how do
Speaker 5: you lead a ship as an actor? And he was
Speaker 5: a consummate professional and he like really showed me how
Speaker 5: do we keep it loose on the set? How do
Speaker 5: we allow and like create a space for play. And
Speaker 5: the guests are you know, like you guys have had
Speaker 5: an incredible guest star and me too. I'm actually watching
Speaker 5: the series with my kids right now and I haven't
Speaker 5: seen it in twenty five years, and I cannot believe
Speaker 5: the guest starters we've had, just like what So, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was, it was it was fair. We shot nine
Speaker 5: months out of the year on film Wow, so we
Speaker 5: were shooting a nine month movie every year, So it
Speaker 5: was it was really intense hours. You know, twelve fourteen
Speaker 5: hours is not a little little more than the than
Speaker 5: the multi camp.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a little differently, and the visual effects were a
Speaker 6: lot that I have, like, you know, fell in love
Speaker 6: like really hardcore for the first time lived.
Speaker 2: I hope he didn't have a commitment phobia.
Speaker 5: He did not have a commitment good. Yeah, yeah it
Speaker 5: turned out I did. But but but could he juggle?
Speaker 2: Was he an actor?
Speaker 5: He was not? No, he did. He did the he
Speaker 5: did the storyboards on the show.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was like it was a it was
Speaker 5: a family. We would all have Thanksgiving together, we would,
Speaker 5: I mean it was it was a real family. And
Speaker 5: I have such good memories and what I learned on
Speaker 5: that show was just so much. It was my Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was my education in comedy for sure.
Speaker 4: Well he was.
Speaker 3: Peter Scalari was one of I mean the show obviously
Speaker 3: the subject matter of the show people would have a
Speaker 3: problem with nowadays, But Buzz and Buddies is one of
Speaker 3: the greatest comedies ever on TV. Him and Tom Hanks
Speaker 3: as roommates, and they were killing it week after week.
Speaker 3: I mean, they were so good. So yeah, he was
Speaker 3: one of those guys who just had that innate comic
Speaker 3: timing inside of him and then you'd go see him
Speaker 3: do something dramatic and he was incredible. So he was
Speaker 3: just one of those actors, just one of those consummate actors. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's one of my favorite of all time. He really is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and just one of the kindest, most generous humans
Speaker 5: I ever met. You know, he's the one who taught me.
Speaker 5: He's the one who taught me like when I end
Speaker 5: a show, like if I guest star on a show,
Speaker 5: I'm writing thank you notes to everybody at the end
Speaker 5: of the show. You know, he was every year we
Speaker 5: would I would send out thank you notes to every
Speaker 5: single person in the crew and cast because he taught
Speaker 5: me to do that. You know, things that are just
Speaker 5: like the generosity was. Yeah, yeah, he is messed.
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sadly passed away in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, another another unavailable actor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Do you ever get recognized for
Speaker 2: Boy Meets World?
Speaker 5: I didn't recognize for Boy Meets World. Truthfully, it has
Speaker 5: been a while since I have been recognized at all.
Speaker 5: It's usually it's usually like yeah, it's like usually in
Speaker 5: the airport and they're like, oh my god, you were
Speaker 5: you were at the Johnston's wedding this weekend, right, I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh no, no, oh, oh, so you went to Michigan. Yes,
Speaker 5: that's how I know you. Yes, No, I didn't go
Speaker 5: to Michigan.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: And I've even had times where I will be with
Speaker 5: like my embarrassing father who is so quick to be
Speaker 5: like she's she's an actress, she's been on everything to
Speaker 5: literally said no, no, that's not it, like okay, yes.
Speaker 1: I had people argue with me. They're like, we went
Speaker 1: to high school together. I'm like, no, no, no, we really didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't go high school.
Speaker 5: I went to eight children go to high school on TV.
Speaker 1: But it was not our, like, it was not your
Speaker 1: It's like I get argues like, that's not it. Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell.
Speaker 4: The I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't remember if I've
Speaker 5: been recognized. I do know. That is the question that
Speaker 5: I always get. It's my favorite question, Oh you're an actress.
Speaker 5: What have you been on? Because like, well, I'll decide
Speaker 5: if you're an actress, prove it right, And I.
Speaker 1: Heard of the finishing touches, right, yes, and.
Speaker 5: If they are between thirty and forty five fifty, I
Speaker 5: know I can say. I've often said like a quick
Speaker 5: thing is boy meets were like ooh, like because you
Speaker 5: want to like what can I what is the what
Speaker 5: is the quickest way that I can validate what I
Speaker 5: do to you so that I don't have to run
Speaker 5: through my resume because.
Speaker 1: If you say, honey, I shrunk the kids, they're like,
Speaker 1: I love that movie, and you're like, not the most
Speaker 1: god like there was a TV show.
Speaker 4: And then you're like why why why.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: So you have two kids, as you mentioned, yew, would
Speaker 2: you feel if they wanted to act? Do they act?
Speaker 5: I one of my daughter I think is going to
Speaker 5: be more creative. My son is like all sports all
Speaker 5: the time, which is great because that's his dad's deal.
Speaker 5: So I think I'm trying not to push it. But
Speaker 5: she does seem she has to take piano lessons. She
Speaker 5: asked to take singing lessons, so I think she may
Speaker 5: do something creative. As far as if she wants to
Speaker 5: do something in the creative arts, I'm totally cool with that.
Speaker 5: As far as being a professional actor before she's an adult,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess, you know, as Ted Kennedy
Speaker 5: would say, we'll drive off that bridge when we come
Speaker 5: to it, I don't think we'll go over that. I
Speaker 5: don't know. Yeah, that's how I don't know. I would
Speaker 5: want to. You know, it's such a big part of
Speaker 5: who I am. I don't know. Yeah, that's not an answer.
Speaker 2: But I appreciate the honesty because I really think so
Speaker 2: much of parenting is being able to admit. I don't
Speaker 2: have the answer for that yet, but I know I'll
Speaker 2: come to the conclusion when the situation presents itself. And
Speaker 2: you know, I only had all the answers about parenting
Speaker 2: before I was a parent. I knew everything then. I
Speaker 2: was a fantastic parent. Before I had children, we were
Speaker 2: not gonna have screen time. There were no screen time
Speaker 2: at meals, all the things you like.
Speaker 5: Your kids have screen time.
Speaker 2: I know, honestly, it's amazing they're alive, but yes I do.
Speaker 2: And they've also occasionally eaten a fruit snack. It's what
Speaker 2: now I know. Well, in our doing of the research
Speaker 2: of you that we did before you came on the show,
Speaker 2: we found out that you help coach young actors now
Speaker 2: paying it forward with all of the years of experience
Speaker 2: you had, Can you tell us about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I do. I I would say that now my
Speaker 5: main my my career is the CEO of my family.
Speaker 5: I don't want to say that. I mean, I still
Speaker 5: have reps, but I would say I'm probably I would
Speaker 5: consider myself certainly semi retired at least, you know, the
Speaker 5: pandemic hit and I'm such a cliche, but it really
Speaker 5: made me re examine my life and like what was
Speaker 5: what was enough? And I think the I think the
Speaker 5: whys of why I was acting, which before were to
Speaker 5: prove to others and to myself that I was enough,
Speaker 5: that I was worthy, that I was I had risen
Speaker 5: above my station. All of those things they just didn't
Speaker 5: apply anymore, and I don't think they'd applied for a while.
Speaker 5: But acting was all that I knew, and so I
Speaker 5: think I was able to let a lot of that
Speaker 5: sort of go during the pandemic and just like sit
Speaker 5: and go, Okay, well what buckets? I only have the
Speaker 5: bandwidth for two or three buckets in my life. What
Speaker 5: do I want to fail? And I had I had
Speaker 5: been certainly before teaching at a studio called Warner Laughlin Studios,
Speaker 5: which I still I teach the masterclass there now, And
Speaker 5: that's sort of my that's my love, Like that's where
Speaker 5: I exactly what you said, like being of service sort
Speaker 5: of helping to guide or remind these these actors that
Speaker 5: they don't have to suffer for the craft. And that
Speaker 5: it can be fun and play, and so I do that,
Speaker 5: and then I also do some some training like mindset
Speaker 5: work for for actors, as far as is helping them
Speaker 5: with pre performance and post performance so that they can
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just I noticed there's this sports psychologist,
Speaker 5: Michael Gervay who says you can only train three things
Speaker 5: your mind, your body, and your craft. And a friend
Speaker 5: of mine and I found that everyone in Hollywood, which
Speaker 5: is like the Olympics of acting, everyone was training their craft,
Speaker 5: everyone was training their body, but no one seemed to
Speaker 5: be training their mind. And we just started looking at
Speaker 5: the science of sports psychology and like, how do you, like,
Speaker 5: how do you level up when you can't do any
Speaker 5: more reps and you can't you know, do any more
Speaker 5: whatever they do in practices. I'm not a sports fan,
Speaker 5: but the science, it's all just performance science. And so
Speaker 5: we just sort of took that and like, how do
Speaker 5: we apply that to actors performing? Like why is no
Speaker 5: one training? Why is no one training their mind? Before?
Speaker 5: Because it what they were all the training they were
Speaker 5: doing in their craft was not showing up in the room,
Speaker 5: and we wondered why. So we just started being interesting definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hillary, it is so good to see you, and
Speaker 1: you it's so awesome to talk to you, because it's like,
Speaker 1: not only do you look the same, you are the same.
Speaker 1: You were like the coolest, most mature, unflappable, like you
Speaker 1: were a full grown woman when I knew you back then,
Speaker 1: and you you are now. It's so cool. I just
Speaker 1: I love you. It's so great to see you.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad I was changed. I was so nervous,
Speaker 5: I think especially for Danielle and will because I was like,
Speaker 5: how do I how did I come off when I
Speaker 5: was fifteen? Because my uh at fifteen, I think my
Speaker 5: fifteen in sixteen, my sort of one I felt insecure.
Speaker 5: My roat thing was to get like very stone cold
Speaker 5: and sort of intimidate and be sort of stand offish,
Speaker 5: which luckily I.
Speaker 4: Don't remember that at all. I just remember you being
Speaker 4: I mean, you and I didn't work together.
Speaker 3: I don't think ever, no, But but I just remember
Speaker 3: you being very nice and fitting in and getting along
Speaker 3: with everybody.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of the only thing I remember.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember I don't remember feeling like you
Speaker 2: were stand offish, but I definitely knew that you were
Speaker 2: very close to the Strong family and it felt like,
Speaker 2: you know, the friendship was with them, and so there,
Speaker 2: I do remember feeling like there isn't room for friendship
Speaker 2: with me, even though I was friends with writer too.
Speaker 2: But it did very much feel like Hillary belongs to
Speaker 2: the Strongs.
Speaker 5: And so interesting because I felt the same way about
Speaker 5: you and Andrew.
Speaker 2: Right, well, Andrew and I did belong to each other.
Speaker 5: That's no way that Disney It.
Speaker 4: Was like you'll were right.
Speaker 1: We all did the Disney World episode together, of course.
Speaker 2: And that that is absolutely true. Andrew was mine there,
Speaker 2: like Andrew was my friend who was there, and I
Speaker 2: felt very protective over him, like you know, so yes
Speaker 2: to you are spot on.
Speaker 3: I wasn't anybody's and I wasn't a Disney and I
Speaker 3: wasn't at Disney World.
Speaker 1: And you're not coming again.
Speaker 3: I was just alone time by myself and I will
Speaker 3: eat by myself.
Speaker 4: You had Pops the world.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 5: You got the week off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got pay for a week do nothing.
Speaker 4: That's the same.
Speaker 2: Sorry, So Hillary, Sorry, looking back now thirty years later,
Speaker 2: looking on your at your work as a child in
Speaker 2: the nineties, with everything that you went through and now
Speaker 2: all of the teaching and helping to train the minds
Speaker 2: of other actors. What do you feel when you watch
Speaker 2: young Hillary on screen.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's so good. I think I am. I would
Speaker 5: say I'm ninety percent, like just really, I think I'm
Speaker 5: proud of her. I think she did, like she rose
Speaker 5: above her station. She had some really cool friends, she
Speaker 5: had some really good times. I think she proved herself
Speaker 5: to be an actor, you know, who could hang, who
Speaker 5: could hang with other good actors. Like, you know, she
Speaker 5: wasn't a she took it seriously, she wasn't a hack.
Speaker 5: You know. I wish I could tell her now, you
Speaker 5: were worth it, even if you didn't book it, you
Speaker 5: were worth it, even if you weren't as good as
Speaker 5: you were, you know, like you were worthy of all
Speaker 5: of that. But mostly I think it brings back like
Speaker 5: that was fun, that was a special thing. Not every
Speaker 5: fifteen year old gets to do those kind of things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and not every fifteen year old is
Speaker 2: able to rise to the occasion and come out the
Speaker 2: other side of it with positive stories and able to
Speaker 2: make a positive contribution continuing and moving forward. So not
Speaker 2: only were you worthy, but you are in the top
Speaker 2: tier of people who were ever able to do it,
Speaker 2: and your life now is evidence of that. So thank
Speaker 2: you so much for being here with us and spending
Speaker 2: this time with us and reconnecting. I want to give
Speaker 2: you a big hug or close the screen I know
Speaker 2: and see.
Speaker 4: No like I can reach out.
Speaker 2: I think it's about a three hour flight, so we should.
Speaker 2: We could probably be there this weekend.
Speaker 3: You know we're thinking of Andcino Calgary totally.
Speaker 2: Let's please get together.
Speaker 5: I would love that you guys anytime. You guys would
Speaker 5: love if any of you want to come in and
Speaker 5: uh co teach my masterclass with me. We could do
Speaker 5: a multi cam night. What a what a wonderful How
Speaker 5: lucky these these actors would be to get you to
Speaker 5: be so much?
Speaker 2: That would be cool, That would be fun.
Speaker 5: I would love to you guys.
Speaker 3: There's an Italian place in Encino with a giant long table.
Speaker 4: We can go see that called Buka Deo right there.
Speaker 2: But do they have people dressed in Italian?
Speaker 5: That's what I remember is they would talk. But like
Speaker 5: we thought it was great, but now I'm in retrospect.
Speaker 2: Hillary, thank you so much for being here. Can't wait
Speaker 2: to see you again soon.
Speaker 5: Yes, y'all take care. I have a great day.
Speaker 2: Bye bye. Man is she incredible?
Speaker 4: She sucks?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's just the worst, horrible, horrible interview,
Speaker 1: just like she's the best I like I It was
Speaker 1: so funny. The second her face appeared on screen, I
Speaker 1: was filled with longing, like I just missed her, and
Speaker 1: you know, and it's one of those things, like I
Speaker 1: guess in a weird way, we probably it's because she
Speaker 1: and Shiloh that they broke up and we lost our
Speaker 1: friendship as a result, right, which is the bummer?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean that, but that happens with with siblings.
Speaker 2: And you know, I didn't even know they dated. I
Speaker 2: mean I gathered it from at the beginning, and I.
Speaker 1: Realized, now that's why we lost touch. Otherwise we never
Speaker 1: would have lost touch. I loved Hillary, like it's so
Speaker 1: good to see her.
Speaker 4: I just love hearing that they got to share a
Speaker 4: bed in my family. Literally, even if you were engaged,
Speaker 4: you could not. When you were married, you could share
Speaker 4: a bed.
Speaker 2: Listen at Ryder's house. YEA tie your own shoes.
Speaker 5: You were in.
Speaker 4: Adult, allowed to be in bed with whoever you are.
Speaker 2: What you need to tie your shoes because no one
Speaker 2: was wearing sho exactly add to the woods with this
Speaker 2: knife see you later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that's true.
Speaker 2: I really loved talking to her and hearing about her
Speaker 2: life that I knew absolutely nothing about before the sun.
Speaker 1: I've never read that about her mom. That's super interesting
Speaker 1: and actually, you know, makes a lot of sense. The
Speaker 1: way you analyze d Daniel was acts exactly right, and
Speaker 1: the way she's talked about like maturity being almost more
Speaker 1: important than talent at that age, and it's so true,
Speaker 1: Like you see that, you see that the child actors
Speaker 1: that end up working a lot, especially under ten, have
Speaker 1: a preternatural like maturity level almost more than they can act.
Speaker 1: Like the important part is can you be cool on set?
Speaker 1: Can you be cool with memorizing lines?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: Are you so smart handle the blocking?
Speaker 1: Can you handle the blocking? Like all that is almost
Speaker 1: more important than your ability to like be present in
Speaker 1: the moment or make choices honestly, which is what so
Speaker 1: much of acting is, you realize as you get older.
Speaker 2: But yeah, interesting, God, so cool to see her. Thank
Speaker 2: you all for joining us for this episode of Pod
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