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Speaker 1: Like, how did that work?

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Speaker 2: We had to signed parking spaces that like basically circled

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Speaker 1: So nobody else in the crew had parking spots like that.

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Speaker 1: Children We're given parking spots where we didn't have to

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel.

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Speaker 4: Now on, I'm wilfred Ell. Now you guys say you're.

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Speaker 2: I love it so much.

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Speaker 2: There is a very elite and small club when it

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Speaker 2: let's call it the Trifecta Gang. These are the actors

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Speaker 4: There's more than one of the Steve.

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Speaker 5: There are.

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Speaker 2: It's time to talk to Hillary Tuk. Hi, you got same?

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Speaker 1: Why touches?

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Speaker 5: writer Kelly. She was like my Yeah, she was my

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00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 5: guardian and she was my everything. So her and I

445
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 5: were very close. And she said, why don't you come

446
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: out to LA for the summer and act? And my

447
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 5: parents were like, sure, go to LA for the summer.

448
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 5: And I got an agent, Ruth Devron, and she said, well,

449
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 5: if you book something, you have to say through pilot season.

450
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 5: And pilot season at that time, you guys, remember it

451
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 5: was September and October. So I booked a dark repor commercial.

452
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 5: And I think up until that point it wasn't acting

453
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 5: that I really loved. I think it was the idea

454
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 5: of getting out of my circumstances and like this was

455
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 5: a vehicle to do that. But then I did the

456
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 5: commercial and I was like, oh, this is so cool.

457
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 5: So I got to stay for pilot season, didn't book anything,

458
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 5: and I was supposed to come home, and however my

459
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 5: boarding school would not take me back in the middle

460
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 5: of the semester. Oh save, So I got to stay

461
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: through January, and like right before Christmas, I auditioned to

462
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 5: play this like very sad, see straightforward bitchy character in

463
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 5: Camp Nowhere, and I auditioned for it and nothing happened.

464
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 5: So I moved all of my stuff home, and I'll

465
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 5: never forget. Like four days before Christmas, I get a

466
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 5: phone call at my grandmother's house and it is Jonathan Prince,

467
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 5: the director of Camp Nowhere, calling me directly to say,

468
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 5: what is this. I hear you moved home. You've got

469
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 5: to come and do my movie. It's such a Hollywood

470
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 5: like oh, and so I moved on my Yeah, I

471
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 5: moved all my stuff back. And then but in order like,

472
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: in order to keep doing this and being on set,

473
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 5: I we told my parents we needed to have guardianship.

474
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 5: My aunt needed to have guardianship, and so they signed

475
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 5: my guardianship over to her thinking it was just for

476
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 5: the movie, and I never came back and I just

477
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 5: day Yeah. Yeah, So working kept me out there. The

478
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: deal was always like I had to support myself. They

479
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 5: weren't going to send me any money. But it worked

480
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 5: out that I was able to support myself, and so

481
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 5: then I just I stayed and I kept I kept working,

482
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: and not long after Camp Nowhere I did Boy Me Swirrels.

483
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 5: It was one of my first jobs.

484
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. How old were you when all this was

485
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: going on with Camp Nowhere?

486
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: It was nineteen.

487
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 5: I moved out here when I was fourteen. I did

488
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 5: Camp Nowhere. I think when I was right when I

489
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 5: turned fifteen.

490
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, young, you were like already doing the full

491
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: on adult thing by yourself.

492
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 5: I think they had grown up very quickly by.

493
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: You were probably apparent in your home.

494
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I like I remember recently like telling my

495
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 5: kids I was annoyed at what they weren't doing, and

496
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, so when I was your age,

497
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 5: when I was nine, I was waking up to the alarm,

498
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 5: waking my mother up, then making breakfast, then putting a

499
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: load of laundry, and then you know what I mean.

500
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: Like right, so put your goddamn shoes on. We're late

501
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: for school. Goddamn, I need breakfast for you. Oh dude,

502
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: this is what I I've already caught myself telling Indy

503
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: was like I already had a job. I was already

504
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: doing my miss what are you doing?

505
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Oh my.

506
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: God hates it already does already hates that I was

507
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: a kid actor because I could throw that in his face.

508
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, man. Well let's talk a little bit

509
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: more about camp nowhere. It was nineteen ninety four. It's

510
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: like who's who of kid actors at the time. Jonathan,

511
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: Really it was.

512
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like the movie everybody wanted apart because

513
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: there were like fifty parts in it. And I think

514
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I went back like multiple times like no, you're gonna

515
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: be Ronnie, No, you'll be this. You know. She just

516
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: kept like mixing and matching all of young Hollywood.

517
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 5: And now I wish you would have didn't get it.

518
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: I've seen it.

519
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: Jonathan Jackson, who ended up being on Boy Meets World

520
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: for an episode recent Yeah, he played He played the

521
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: guy who takes Topanga on a date after Corey cheats

522
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: on Topanga. He's in the Starry Night episode. Recent guest

523
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: of the on our podcast Andrew Keagan, Alison Mack, Jessica Biele,

524
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: and also in it, Heather DeLoach, best known as the

525
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Bee Girl in Blind Melons.

526
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Speaker 5: No Way, that's incredible. Wow, I remember I remember her

527
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 5: being it was like such a coupe was on set,

528
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: like she was were she was the most famous person.

529
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 5: She was the most famous kid of course for the

530
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: Bee Girl. Yeah, uh yeah, it was. It was such

531
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 5: an incredible unique experience because we shot on the Disney ranch,

532
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: so you're out in the middle of nowhere literally and

533
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 5: it was just all these young actors. I was one

534
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 5: of the oldest. I remember that that. I was. Me

535
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: and Devin Oatway were two of the oldest, and it

536
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 5: was just you were either in a classroom goofing off

537
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 5: I mean you know how yeah, not set school school,

538
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 5: but it's not really school doing. There's like goofing off

539
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 5: and doing school, or we were filming being in a

540
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: summer camp. Yeah, it was just incredible. It was I'm going.

541
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Speaker 2: To assume that wasn't the same experience you had at

542
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: boarding school, and we've already heard that it wasn't the

543
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: experience you had at home where you were very much

544
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: the adult in your household. So what was it like

545
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: for you to be in a rather protect did, super

546
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: fun place surrounded by like minded kids your own age.

547
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Was that like a very freeing experience. It feels like

548
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: it would be life changing.

549
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 5: You ask good questions, Danielle, Yeah, it was, you do.

550
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why would just keep our mouth shut.

551
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

552
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 5: It was very It was wonderful. I think one of

553
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: the things that made me fall in love with being

554
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 5: on set is the schedule, the predictability of it. Yeah,

555
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: the people telling me what to do, what to wear. Obviously,

556
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 5: the gratification and the oh you're funny, you're pretty, you're good,

557
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: or whatever. But I think this schedule of it, and

558
00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 5: I think that what my childhood did prepare me for

559
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 5: is when you are a child actor, you you are.

560
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 5: It is a real asset to be mature and professional

561
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: and to be able to handle yourself. Yes, I was.

562
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 5: I was very practiced in that, so that was a

563
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 5: really sharp tool that I had in my toolbox. And

564
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: I think, I think, I do think it is is

565
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 5: an aspect of why I worked very quickly and very steadily,

566
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 5: because I think producers or sets or whoever recognize that

567
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 5: and it and it behooves them.

568
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: They want an adult in a child's body. Yes, that's

569
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: that's what they're looking for. They want a little adult

570
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: in a child's body. And it's so funny because the

571
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: things you're mentioning about the structure and everything is exactly

572
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: what you get at a military boarding school.

573
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but it is. It's that same thing.

574
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: It's you're going to eat this time, You're going to

575
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: wear this when you're there, You're going to do these

576
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: chores you're going to do. It sounded like that's what

577
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: you were looking for, was more of the structure that

578
00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: you know.

579
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: I find so fascinating is that, like Hillary just mentioned,

580
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: for most kids, the feeling you have if you started

581
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: working as a child is a lot of times you

582
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: look back and you think, but needing to be so

583
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: mature made me miss out on a true childhood. I've

584
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: been an adult since I was so long, for so long,

585
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: since I was so young. And in her case, she

586
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you're going to tell me when to

587
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: show up. I don't have to make the schedule myself

588
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: and do the work of it. So, if anything, the

589
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: fact that it was set up for you allowed you

590
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 2: more of an opportunity to be a kid than you

591
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: had ever had before. You were like, yeah, the maturity

592
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring no matter what, because it's all

593
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: I've known. But now you set the schedule, you tell

594
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: me what to wear, you do my hair and makeup,

595
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: and then when I do a good job, you tell

596
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: me I'm doing a good job.

597
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I get to play a kid who's playing right?

598
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: You know?

599
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was. It was a really special I've

600
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 5: been so blessed to have a few really special experiences,

601
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: but Camp Camp Nowhere was really one of them for sure.

602
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Wow, I love it.

603
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: So if we do a rewatch, will you of Camp Nowhere?

604
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: Will you come back and watch it with us?

605
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 5: Oh my god? Yes? And if you have, like your

606
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: son is is how old?

607
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: Nine?

608
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 5: Nine? Yeah, it's the perfect time to watch the movie.

609
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 5: It's it like I don't I don't want to go

610
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 5: so far to say it holds up, but it holds up,

611
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: and it holds up for a nine year old, it

612
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 5: holds out. It's really fun. It's definitely the time to

613
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: watch it.

614
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: I should do that. I haven't seen that. I haven't

615
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: seen it either, so I'd like to watch that. I've

616
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: now heard so much about this movie.

617
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 5: And I would have to make fun of it with you.

618
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 5: We should have to have a whole like me and

619
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: Andrew and whoever.

620
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, do it?

621
00:31:50,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: Oh it sounds great.

622
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: Can we talk hangtime for a second.

623
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay.

624
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: So you appeared in thirteen episodes as team manager Samantha

625
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: Morgan and it has really built like a niche cult

626
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: following as the spiritual TNBC sister of Saved by the Bell.

627
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: So it's so nostalgic now, especially among basketball fans. And

628
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: I would just like to name some of the other

629
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: guest stars Anthony Anderson, Jay Hernandez, dick Butt, Kiss Screech

630
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: in a crossover episode, Muggsy Bogues, Lizza Leslie Florence, Griffith Joyner,

631
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: and an eighteen year old NBA rookie named Kobe Bryant. Yeah,

632
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: I love Do you remember what you were up?

633
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: And Tom was a great show. It was.

634
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 5: It was a really fun show. I remember. So I

635
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: want to say that I want to say this begare

636
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 5: does it relate? I want to go back to the

637
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: first episode that I did of Boy Meets World, because

638
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 5: I think it does relate to Hangtime because did I

639
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: do Boy Meets World first, or did I do Hangtime first?

640
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: I did Boy Meets World first. I don't know.

641
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 2: I think boy meets were yeah, boy meets Yeah, boy

642
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: Mee's World was ninety five.

643
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: Yes, yes.

644
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: So what I remember about the first episode of Boy

645
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: Meets World is that I started watching it and I

646
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 5: didn't remember I had been in it. I had conflated

647
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: the first and the second episode together, because in the

648
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: first episode I only have one line. What is interesting

649
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 5: is that when I watched it, I remembered two things. One,

650
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 5: I was deathly afraid I was going to get fired

651
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: because Michael Jacobs. All I have is this like look

652
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 5: up and over and I say my line high corey

653
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: or whatever. And I can remember him basically giving me

654
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 5: a line, reading a physical line, reading like like no no, no, no,

655
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 5: no no, like this, and he showed me what to do,

656
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 5: and luckily I was able to be a puppet and

657
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: do that.

658
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's acting, right, everyone knows, everyone knows.

659
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: Ignore your instincts and just parrot what you yourself.

660
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: Don't make any choices, just do exactly what this man wants.

661
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 5: And I can remember being like terrified that I wasn't

662
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: going to do it the way he wanted, and that

663
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 5: I was going to get fired. And the other memory

664
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: that I have is that what was crazy to me

665
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 5: is as I'm watching the rest of the episode I

666
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 5: knew probably thirty percent of y'all's lines as they were

667
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: about to be said. And why I remember this is

668
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: my aunt would have me sit in the stands when

669
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 5: I wasn't doing homework, way in the back, and she

670
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 5: would have me study y'all. Wow, And because I was

671
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 5: so new to it, and so she was like she

672
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 5: wanted me to study and notice not only like the

673
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: comedic timing and set up, set up, punchline and yes

674
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 5: and and all of those things, and also how do

675
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 5: series regulars behave on set? Right? What is the like? What? How?

676
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 5: What does it look like? And so she would have

677
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 5: me just sit back there and just watch them. And

678
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 5: the feeling that I remember because I remember she said

679
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 5: to me, is this what you want? Do you want

680
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: something like this? And I remember having the thought that

681
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: it And I don't know if this was y'all experience.

682
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 5: My impression of y'all is that it seemed like y'all

683
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: had a lot of pressure on you, like there was

684
00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 5: there was a lot writing on the four shoulders of

685
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 5: the minors, right, and and that I also wanted.

686
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 2: It, and that it was fun.

687
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was fun. Yes, it did seem like

688
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: it was. There was a lot of it. I don't know,

689
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: it just seemed like a lot of pressure. So when

690
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 5: I got hang time and I was a series regular,

691
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: I think, like, I can't tell you specifically what I

692
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 5: gleaned from y'all, but I definitely was a case study

693
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 5: and I definitely use some of that in like being

694
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: a professional and how to be a series regular, because

695
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 5: you know, being a series regular is different than being

696
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: a guest star, so and your job is different.

697
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: So uh yeah.

698
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 5: It was a great thirteen episodes until I got fired

699
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: after the first season off. Yeah, I'm only in the

700
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: first season. I was fired.

701
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: What happened? And we asked, what happened?

702
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: They just write you off?

703
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 5: They just wrote me off. Samantha Morgan, lead team manager.

704
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: I think they wanted to retool the show they make it.

705
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: By the way, I was not the only one fired.

706
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: I think they let go of a third of the cast,

707
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 5: and I was one of them. And there was never

708
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 5: like a like Warren Littlefield was not calling me up

709
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: and be like, Hillary, we love your work, we've decided

710
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: to go in a different direction. It was none of that.

711
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 5: It was my agent saying you're not coming back on

712
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: to the next and then I was, I was, I

713
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: was devastated. But you know then I then I booked

714
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 5: another series and it was meant to be. But yeah,

715
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 5: it was. It was fun for those thirteen episodes. We

716
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 5: had a lot of hijinks.

717
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about your three characters on Boy Meets World.

718
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: You're rafied. You're in a rarefied club.

719
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 5: Thank you. Did anyone else have that? Have you had

720
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: guest stars who come back because rent?

721
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, Phil Leads also played three different characters, Willy Garrison,

722
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: Willie Garson played three different characters, and one of our

723
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: nerdy characters from the beginning, Jonathan Kaplan Jonathan C.

724
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: Kaplin Exactly so, and so did any of them have

725
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 5: an idea as to why they were given different character names?

726
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: Well, we haven't been able to ask Phil Leads. He's

727
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: he's died in like ninety eight.

728
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: He died.

729
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, he's been unavailable since unavailable. Willie Garson is

730
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: also unavailable, and we haven't talked to Jonathan Kaplan, I think.

731
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: You were probably just a favorite of Michael and the

732
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: and the casting team, you know, like they just must

733
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: have Sally and Barbie just must have loved you. And

734
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: they were like, well, let's just bring Hillary back and

735
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: they were like, yes, did you?

736
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: Did you have to audition all three times?

737
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: I auditioned for the first two and like what I

738
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: remember of what I remember of the second episode, like

739
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 5: Barbie Blair was such a was such a fan of mine,

740
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 5: and I'm sure you guys have had this too, Like

741
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 5: there's just certain casting directors who have been instrumental, even

742
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: if they didn't hire you in something of just making you,

743
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: reminding you of your value. Yea, and Barbie Block was

744
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 5: one of those for me. And uh so, yeah the

745
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: second episode. I did audition four and it was should

746
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 5: we talk about the second episode now?

747
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: Yes?

748
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: That great?

749
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I did audition four. What I remember about it

750
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 5: is it was my favorite of the three, yes, because

751
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 5: I got, like I remember experiencing in that booth with

752
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 5: you and Ben like a really playing being allowed to

753
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: play a little bit and it wasn't so micro managed

754
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 5: and having fun and I was funny. I mean, yeah, yeah,

755
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: I got jokes, which is always nice. And I can

756
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 5: remember going from it was such a one eighty moment

757
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: for me because the first episode, Michael was to me,

758
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 5: he didn't seem like someone who always knew how to

759
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 5: talk to a child, very gradius. Oh okay, okay, so

760
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: this is something that you've talked about before. Wonderful yes,

761
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 5: And I was. I was really afraid of him. And

762
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: then after we did the second episode me I remember

763
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: coming off and I was walking around the ramp to

764
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: the backside, and he stopped me. And I don't know

765
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: who he was talking to, somebody, an executive or someone,

766
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 5: and he was like, this, this is a funny girl.

767
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: We need more of this. She gets it. And it

768
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 5: was I've had like that moment and then a moment

769
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: with Rose and Barr of these like paradigm shifts of

770
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 5: me going, oh, I'm funny, I can do this. I'm enough,

771
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 5: you know I And it was it was like a

772
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 5: huge boost of confidence for me of like being giving

773
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: myself permission, of like I'm on the right track, my

774
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 5: instincts are good. Whatever. So yeah that I remember it

775
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 5: being a really fun episode. And even when I saw it,

776
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 5: there's plenty of things that I see twenty years later

777
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 5: and I'm not I have to just go Well, I

778
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: was young and I've learned a lot, but I'm still

779
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 5: proud of that. I thought it was a fun, it

780
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 5: was a fun character.

781
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: It was super fun. And so then you auditioned for

782
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: those first two and then you get asked back to

783
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: do the absolutely iconic, not necessarily incredible, but iconic Disney

784
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: World episode.

785
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: And it's a character.

786
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, So they Barbie Block called and

787
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: said they want to have you back one more time.

788
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: We can't have you back more than three times because

789
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 5: then we have to pay you recurring character rate.

790
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: Really, so I did not know that at all.

791
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this will be your last episode. But because

792
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: it's your last episode, we want to take you. We

793
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 5: want you to be in the Disney World episode. Wow,

794
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 5: you do know, which was so lovely. The first time

795
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 5: i'd been off for a role, I didn't have to

796
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 5: audition for it. It's the first time that I got

797
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 5: to go anywhere and someone, and you know, traveling on

798
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 5: your our own is very different than the network traveling you. Yeah,

799
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: and I felt really special. And then I got the

800
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 5: script and like, oh, I'm going to play a soon

801
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 5: to be stalker and like this characters learning how to

802
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 5: be a stalker awesome, and it was it was thankless.

803
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 5: It was one note, but I had so much fun.

804
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just that.

805
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: And by that point we had already done the play.

806
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: We were already friends, like yeah, it was so.

807
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, we we it was, it was, it was, it

808
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 5: was great. It was have we done the play by then?

809
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: And we must have? Yeah, because that was ninety six,

810
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and we've done the play in ninety five,

811
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: so yeah. Yeah. So I wonder if if it was

812
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: because of your second Boy Meets World appearance that you

813
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: were in the play like I won, Yeah, And I

814
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: wonder if it was just like, oh we should just yeah,

815
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't.

816
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: My guess is that Bruce and get Kelly connected because

817
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 5: Bruce was around, Kelly was around, and Kelly probably got

818
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: me in Bruce's acting.

819
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: Class, right, so then we were just in acting class.

820
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: We were like, let's put together a play. Wow.

821
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. And then I got to go up and

822
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: and visit Writer and Shiloh and their their Shire house,

823
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 5: which was incredible.

824
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: The best.

825
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, did he show you his grappling hook?

826
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 5: Is that some sort of.

827
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: He literally grappling hook.

828
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: I hadn't made it yet, guys. Okay, well, actually maybe

829
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: I have lost it, but lost it was.

830
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: The tree somewhere.

831
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember the graph. I remember them teaching

832
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 5: me magic. I remember playing magic with with Writer and

833
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: Shiloh and Nate. I remember like just coming to I

834
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 5: remember being so enchant with your family because I came

835
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: and it was more the lifestyle, Like I grew up

836
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 5: in the country, but this was like a decidedly hippie lifestyle,

837
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 5: which coming from Texas, I was not used to. And

838
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 5: like coming in and meeting miss Lynn and mister King

839
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: in this shire of redwood forest trees they like he

840
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: built with his bare hands, and and like your mom

841
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: was like so loving and nurturing, and I just remember

842
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 5: like just falling in love with the family like that

843
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 5: sort of like it felt so normal to me. And

844
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 5: I'm sure like every family is quirky and not as

845
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 5: normal as they seem, but to me, it was like

846
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: this house full of dependability and everyone was so unaffected

847
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: by and you and your brother.

848
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: It's still there. It's still there, and it's still he

849
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: was lovely and welcoming. No, it's way more beautiful than

850
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: it used to be like my dad just kept building stuff.

851
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean now he's eighty one, but yeah, I mean

852
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: the place is gorgeous and like, yeah, we go up

853
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: all the time. It's it's lovely. It's so you got

854
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: to come up, bring your kids, it's.

855
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was many kids have super special I have too.

856
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 5: How old are seven and nine? Amazing?

857
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Indy will have a blast.

858
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to come up, come up to the Shire.

859
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, they and was your I remember mister King being

860
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 5: like very mister King.

861
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: He's healthier than me right now, like he could still

862
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: still at eighty one. He has more fit than me.

863
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: He could kick my ass.

864
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 5: Right because I remember me like the peak of fitness.

865
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: He's amazed, like a specimen of a man.

866
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, it still is.

867
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

868
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

869
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: So going back to Florida episodes taking us from the

870
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: Shire back to Florida. Do you have no no, no,

871
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: we the detour. Do you have any like specific behind

872
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: the scenes memories or on the scenes memories about being

873
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: in Florida? Did you ride any rides fifty times?

874
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: Oh? Oh so I remember thinking I was like I

875
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 5: had made it. This was the pinnacle, the zenith of

876
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 5: my career, like screw oscars.

877
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: This backstage at Disney World.

878
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, that we had and I think, now you can

879
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 5: pay for these, but at the time you could not

880
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 5: pay for these. No have a personal.

881
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: Guide, guest relations, gest.

882
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 5: Relations, and I just remember it would be like, okay,

883
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 5: now we're going to move to this other set and

884
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: all of us would run to this guide and he

885
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 5: would take us to the front of the line to

886
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 5: a right Yeah. And I was with like I wasn't recognizable,

887
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 5: but all of you were recognizable. So there was It

888
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: was like my first brush of this is what fame is.

889
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 5: No photographs, please, you don't know.

890
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: Terror one more time, let's go we could.

891
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 5: Just really I remember that. And I remember there being

892
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: a cast dinner at a new restaurant at Cot the

893
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: like whatever. The coolest one was.

894
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: The Italian one? Was it?

895
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: Okay?

896
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 5: And I remember a very long table with all of us.

897
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: Remember I remember that dinner too.

898
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So these all sound like amazing story his career.

899
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: Not I'll get there eventually, but this is it sounds

900
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: like you guys had a blast.

901
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: We did, we did.

902
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 5: It was it was really fun. Will. What I remember

903
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 5: about you is like one he's an adult like don't

904
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 5: talk to him, but like also just your uh you

905
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 5: were so sharp on set, Like that's what I remember, like,

906
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 5: I remember you being sharp. I remember I remember you

907
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 5: seeing watching you do scenes, and like you would do

908
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: it again and again and again. And what was incredible

909
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: about was that you you had the underpinnings of the comedy,

910
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 5: like you understood the comedy of it, but you were

911
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: able to play within that musicality. And I remember that.

912
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 5: I remember being very impressed by that. Thank you.

913
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll trade it all to go to Florida. Sounds

914
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 4: like it would have been fun once in an.

915
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: Italian restaurant with all these great young child actors as

916
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: opposed to uh, just taco bell at home and being funny.

917
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: Do you do you think they still because what I

918
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 5: I remember about those what was special about the restaurants

919
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 5: is you could go to a different world. Yeah, different

920
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 5: like you could go to China or you could go

921
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 5: to Italy. And what I remember is that in the

922
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 5: world I would probably they don't have it because it

923
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: would be like this weird appropriation thing of like them

924
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 5: dressing in cartoonish Italian get garburb and cartoonishes like Japanese

925
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 5: it's probably.

926
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: Not actually hired people from those countries to work there.

927
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: That was always Is that still the way it works, like.

928
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: I hope. So I haven't been to Epcot in forever.

929
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: Did they still gay?

930
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they give you that passport.

931
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: I still have my Epcot passport and you get it

932
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: stamped at every every country you go to. And then

933
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: when you got older, Epcot was the only place at

934
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: the time on Disney property where you could buy alcohol.

935
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 3: So when you hit twenty one, then you would do

936
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: called drinking around the world, and you saw how many

937
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: times you could make it around having a drink in

938
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: each country, and you know, there's people that.

939
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 4: Are like my third time around the world.

940
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: That are just hammered it Disney World. Yeah, was that

941
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: it was much different when you were over twenty one

942
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 3: by that point.

943
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: Oh, that's so interesting. That feels very in Disney like

944
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 5: it is.

945
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you can do that anymore. I don't

946
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: think they I'm not sure they allow it anymore.

947
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was your like, who was your crew? Who

948
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: was your group of friends in Los Angeles?

949
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: Well around that time, truly, I think writer and and

950
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: and Shiloh and the Tom sisters, like that was a

951
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 5: part of it.

952
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: And then and used to come to our house and

953
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: scene I remember we had a house in Encino, I

954
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: mean Texas.

955
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean Texas, that's right.

956
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: And with the pool yeah, so that would have been yeah.

957
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: And then I think that sort of ended when Shiloh

958
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 5: when I brought Shiloh home to meet my family, and uh, he.

959
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: Tell us the details he was when did you guys?

960
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: Do you guys dated?

961
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 5: Yes, we dated. That's why I would go up and visit.

962
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: That was another thing that I remember, like, how cool

963
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 5: how miss Lynn and mister King they're letting us sleep

964
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 5: in the same room together while I visit.

965
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: Likes basically in our family, you were grown up at

966
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: eleven years old?

967
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: Just right?

968
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: No, no, no, when you were older? I was, I was,

969
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 5: but yeah, and then I made the dire mistake of

970
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: bringing him home to visit my family, which is have

971
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 5: you guys ever seen did you guys see this last

972
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: season of The Bear?

973
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

974
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: So the flashback episode, Danielle, you.

975
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: Know what, I've never seen it even Oh.

976
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 5: God, okay, well when you see it, the flashback episode

977
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: of them growing up? That was my family, so not

978
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 5: different for Shiloh. And so.

979
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: I can't wait to ask about it.

980
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I was there. It's been two guys

981
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 5: in my life who had like really like broken my heart,

982
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 5: and truthfully, Shilah was one of them. Because we were

983
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 5: in Texas, Nate and his girlfriend came down to visit.

984
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 5: We went and saw the bat Caves. I thought everything

985
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: was going well, and then Shilah woke up and he

986
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 5: was like, Hey, I'm gonna go because I don't I

987
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 5: don't want to do this, and I think you think that,

988
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 5: like I'm your boyfriend and I'm not.

989
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

990
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I remember driving in silence the hour to

991
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 5: go from Kerrville to the UH to San Antonio to

992
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: drop off off of the airport. My mom's radio did

993
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 5: not work, so it was just us in silence.

994
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

995
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. I just remember being I remember being

996
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: sad because I was like, oh, you're not dating Hillar

997
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: and he was like no. I came home and I remember,

998
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: like what.

999
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: In retrospect, I can't believe he hung out as long

1000
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 5: as he did. Like Shiloh and you were both old souls,

1001
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 5: but in this retro in this situation, you guys were

1002
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 5: he was way too ginger to be thrown it. I mean,

1003
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 5: I don't know what it was.

1004
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: I think it might have just been commitment in general.

1005
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't think, because I don't remember any him saying

1006
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: anything negative about Texas or you or your family at all.

1007
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: All I remember is him just being like, oh, I

1008
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a relationship. I'm not ready here.

1009
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 5: Let's be clear. It was my family, not me. Don't

1010
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 5: ruin this for me.

1011
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: It was the commitment, is what I'm saying. It was

1012
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: commitment and nothing to do with He was just like, oh, wait,

1013
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: we're like dating now. Oh And it was like, yeah,

1014
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: dumb ass, you're going to visit her in Texas. Of

1015
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: course you're dating. But I think he like woke up

1016
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: and was like what she live? Boyfriend? Girlfriend? No, which

1017
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: is just like being whatever eighteen seventeen and being like

1018
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to be in a relationship with somebody,

1019
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: what an idiot? No, never about you or no, like yeah, no,

1020
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: he just freaked out about commitment and like being dating somebody.

1021
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 5: I I hold so much love for Shiloh.

1022
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you guys just recently talked. He was

1023
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: like that he brought you up, and I was like, wait,

1024
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: we would try to get. We should have her on

1025
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, that's so much.

1026
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, fear of commitment was something he had in his

1027
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: fisherman's vest. Who could have seen it coming.

1028
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: Deep in one of those pottle back hidden pocket.

1029
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right.

1030
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: To his pipe and smoking and then jump up pipe.

1031
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god, he smoked a.

1032
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: Pipe, isn't it ridiculous? With a bowling hat, with a

1033
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: bowler hat smoking a pipe and hacky sacking and and

1034
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: and juggling and cycles he could he learned how to

1035
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: use cycles. I mean, this man and he was still cool,

1036
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: Like that's what's amazing. You take the accumulation and you

1037
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: described Shiloh at sixteen and you're like, what a dorky,

1038
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: weird theater to and instead it was like and effortlessly

1039
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: cool and him when you were like, wow, this got Yeah,

1040
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a very strange vibe, like it is. I

1041
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: guess in a way it would be like a burning

1042
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: man vibe now, but it wasn't then. It was just

1043
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: cool in its own sort of way.

1044
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: It's like a whole bunch of really bizarre ingredients that

1045
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: somehow still make a really good dish. Yeah, it's like,

1046
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: how did those five things equals something amazing.

1047
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: Ninety six. It's a good vintage fun can't commit, don't commit,

1048
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: don't take him home.

1049
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: I want to get to you. Starring in the TV

1050
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: version of Honey I Shrunk the Kids, which was massive

1051
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: because the movie was so popular. The promotional tour for

1052
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: this must have been insane for you. Was this a

1053
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: fun experience considering all the effects and Peter Scillari playing

1054
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: your dad? Like, was it an overall great experience?

1055
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 5: Oh? My gosh, it was. It was the best experience.

1056
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 5: It was. We were I left. I left my sophomore

1057
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: year of college to go up there and shoot it.

1058
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 5: It was Peter Sclari who I worked on in Camp Nowhere.

1059
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: Oh, he was in Camp Nowhere too.

1060
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, and then Barbara Allan Woods who played my mom,

1061
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 5: who ended up very quickly we became best friends. We

1062
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 5: moved in together for about three months into the first season.

1063
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 5: We loved each other so much.

1064
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: Where were in Canada or Yeah?

1065
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 5: We were shooting in Calgary, which is like Texas. It

1066
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 5: is the Texas of Canada. And I'm you know, I'm

1067
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 5: the god daughter to her oldest daughter. I stood at

1068
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 5: her wedding like and we were we were family really

1069
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 5: and Peter. I feel like my real education and comedy

1070
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 5: came from Peter, Like he taught me. He taught me comedy,

1071
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 5: and he taught me how to be a number one

1072
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 5: on the set, like what is it like how do

1073
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 5: you lead a ship as an actor? And he was

1074
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 5: a consummate professional and he like really showed me how

1075
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 5: do we keep it loose on the set? How do

1076
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 5: we allow and like create a space for play. And

1077
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 5: the guests are you know, like you guys have had

1078
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 5: an incredible guest star and me too. I'm actually watching

1079
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 5: the series with my kids right now and I haven't

1080
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 5: seen it in twenty five years, and I cannot believe

1081
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 5: the guest starters we've had, just like what So, yeah,

1082
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 5: it was, it was it was fair. We shot nine

1083
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 5: months out of the year on film Wow, so we

1084
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 5: were shooting a nine month movie every year, So it

1085
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 5: was it was really intense hours. You know, twelve fourteen

1086
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 5: hours is not a little little more than the than

1087
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 5: the multi camp.

1088
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, a little differently, and the visual effects were a

1089
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 6: lot that I have, like, you know, fell in love

1090
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 6: like really hardcore for the first time lived.

1091
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: I hope he didn't have a commitment phobia.

1092
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 5: He did not have a commitment good. Yeah, yeah it

1093
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 5: turned out I did. But but but could he juggle?

1094
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: Was he an actor?

1095
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 5: He was not? No, he did. He did the he

1096
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,959
Speaker 5: did the storyboards on the show.

1097
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

1098
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was like it was a it was

1099
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 5: a family. We would all have Thanksgiving together, we would,

1100
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 5: I mean it was it was a real family. And

1101
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 5: I have such good memories and what I learned on

1102
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 5: that show was just so much. It was my Yeah,

1103
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 5: it was my education in comedy for sure.

1104
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: Well he was.

1105
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 3: Peter Scalari was one of I mean the show obviously

1106
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: the subject matter of the show people would have a

1107
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: problem with nowadays, But Buzz and Buddies is one of

1108
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 3: the greatest comedies ever on TV. Him and Tom Hanks

1109
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: as roommates, and they were killing it week after week.

1110
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: I mean, they were so good. So yeah, he was

1111
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: one of those guys who just had that innate comic

1112
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: timing inside of him and then you'd go see him

1113
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: do something dramatic and he was incredible. So he was

1114
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: just one of those actors, just one of those consummate actors. Yeah,

1115
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: he's one of my favorite of all time. He really is.

1116
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and just one of the kindest, most generous humans

1117
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 5: I ever met. You know, he's the one who taught me.

1118
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 5: He's the one who taught me like when I end

1119
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 5: a show, like if I guest star on a show,

1120
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 5: I'm writing thank you notes to everybody at the end

1121
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 5: of the show. You know, he was every year we

1122
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 5: would I would send out thank you notes to every

1123
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 5: single person in the crew and cast because he taught

1124
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 5: me to do that. You know, things that are just

1125
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 5: like the generosity was. Yeah, yeah, he is messed.

1126
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear that.

1127
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sadly passed away in twenty twenty one.

1128
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, another another unavailable actor.

1129
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Do you ever get recognized for

1130
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: Boy Meets World?

1131
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: I didn't recognize for Boy Meets World. Truthfully, it has

1132
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 5: been a while since I have been recognized at all.

1133
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 5: It's usually it's usually like yeah, it's like usually in

1134
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 5: the airport and they're like, oh my god, you were

1135
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 5: you were at the Johnston's wedding this weekend, right, I'm like,

1136
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 5: oh no, no, oh, oh, so you went to Michigan. Yes,

1137
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 5: that's how I know you. Yes, No, I didn't go

1138
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 5: to Michigan.

1139
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: No.

1140
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: And I've even had times where I will be with

1141
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 5: like my embarrassing father who is so quick to be

1142
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 5: like she's she's an actress, she's been on everything to

1143
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 5: literally said no, no, that's not it, like okay, yes.

1144
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: I had people argue with me. They're like, we went

1145
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: to high school together. I'm like, no, no, no, we really didn't.

1146
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: I didn't go high school.

1147
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 5: I went to eight children go to high school on TV.

1148
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: But it was not our, like, it was not your

1149
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: It's like I get argues like, that's not it. Okay.

1150
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell.

1151
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: The I don't know what to tell you.

1152
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't remember if I've

1153
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 5: been recognized. I do know. That is the question that

1154
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 5: I always get. It's my favorite question, Oh you're an actress.

1155
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 5: What have you been on? Because like, well, I'll decide

1156
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 5: if you're an actress, prove it right, And I.

1157
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: Heard of the finishing touches, right, yes, and.

1158
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 5: If they are between thirty and forty five fifty, I

1159
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 5: know I can say. I've often said like a quick

1160
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 5: thing is boy meets were like ooh, like because you

1161
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 5: want to like what can I what is the what

1162
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 5: is the quickest way that I can validate what I

1163
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 5: do to you so that I don't have to run

1164
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 5: through my resume because.

1165
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: If you say, honey, I shrunk the kids, they're like,

1166
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: I love that movie, and you're like, not the most

1167
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: god like there was a TV show.

1168
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 4: And then you're like why why why.

1169
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: Amazing.

1170
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: So you have two kids, as you mentioned, yew, would

1171
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: you feel if they wanted to act? Do they act?

1172
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 5: I one of my daughter I think is going to

1173
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 5: be more creative. My son is like all sports all

1174
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 5: the time, which is great because that's his dad's deal.

1175
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 5: So I think I'm trying not to push it. But

1176
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 5: she does seem she has to take piano lessons. She

1177
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 5: asked to take singing lessons, so I think she may

1178
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 5: do something creative. As far as if she wants to

1179
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 5: do something in the creative arts, I'm totally cool with that.

1180
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 5: As far as being a professional actor before she's an adult,

1181
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess, you know, as Ted Kennedy

1182
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: would say, we'll drive off that bridge when we come

1183
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 5: to it, I don't think we'll go over that. I

1184
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 5: don't know. Yeah, that's how I don't know. I would

1185
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 5: want to. You know, it's such a big part of

1186
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 5: who I am. I don't know. Yeah, that's not an answer.

1187
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: But I appreciate the honesty because I really think so

1188
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: much of parenting is being able to admit. I don't

1189
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: have the answer for that yet, but I know I'll

1190
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: come to the conclusion when the situation presents itself. And

1191
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: you know, I only had all the answers about parenting

1192
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: before I was a parent. I knew everything then. I

1193
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: was a fantastic parent. Before I had children, we were

1194
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: not gonna have screen time. There were no screen time

1195
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: at meals, all the things you like.

1196
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,959
Speaker 5: Your kids have screen time.

1197
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: I know, honestly, it's amazing they're alive, but yes I do.

1198
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: And they've also occasionally eaten a fruit snack. It's what

1199
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: now I know. Well, in our doing of the research

1200
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: of you that we did before you came on the show,

1201
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: we found out that you help coach young actors now

1202
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: paying it forward with all of the years of experience

1203
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: you had, Can you tell us about that?

1204
01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 5: Yeah? I do. I I would say that now my

1205
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 5: main my my career is the CEO of my family.

1206
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 5: I don't want to say that. I mean, I still

1207
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 5: have reps, but I would say I'm probably I would

1208
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 5: consider myself certainly semi retired at least, you know, the

1209
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,959
Speaker 5: pandemic hit and I'm such a cliche, but it really

1210
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 5: made me re examine my life and like what was

1211
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 5: what was enough? And I think the I think the

1212
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 5: whys of why I was acting, which before were to

1213
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 5: prove to others and to myself that I was enough,

1214
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 5: that I was worthy, that I was I had risen

1215
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 5: above my station. All of those things they just didn't

1216
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 5: apply anymore, and I don't think they'd applied for a while.

1217
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 5: But acting was all that I knew, and so I

1218
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 5: think I was able to let a lot of that

1219
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 5: sort of go during the pandemic and just like sit

1220
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 5: and go, Okay, well what buckets? I only have the

1221
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 5: bandwidth for two or three buckets in my life. What

1222
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 5: do I want to fail? And I had I had

1223
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 5: been certainly before teaching at a studio called Warner Laughlin Studios,

1224
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 5: which I still I teach the masterclass there now, And

1225
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 5: that's sort of my that's my love, Like that's where

1226
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 5: I exactly what you said, like being of service sort

1227
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 5: of helping to guide or remind these these actors that

1228
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 5: they don't have to suffer for the craft. And that

1229
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 5: it can be fun and play, and so I do that,

1230
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 5: and then I also do some some training like mindset

1231
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 5: work for for actors, as far as is helping them

1232
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 5: with pre performance and post performance so that they can

1233
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just I noticed there's this sports psychologist,

1234
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 5: Michael Gervay who says you can only train three things

1235
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 5: your mind, your body, and your craft. And a friend

1236
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 5: of mine and I found that everyone in Hollywood, which

1237
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 5: is like the Olympics of acting, everyone was training their craft,

1238
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 5: everyone was training their body, but no one seemed to

1239
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 5: be training their mind. And we just started looking at

1240
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 5: the science of sports psychology and like, how do you, like,

1241
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 5: how do you level up when you can't do any

1242
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 5: more reps and you can't you know, do any more

1243
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 5: whatever they do in practices. I'm not a sports fan,

1244
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 5: but the science, it's all just performance science. And so

1245
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 5: we just sort of took that and like, how do

1246
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 5: we apply that to actors performing? Like why is no

1247
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 5: one training? Why is no one training their mind? Before?

1248
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 5: Because it what they were all the training they were

1249
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 5: doing in their craft was not showing up in the room,

1250
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 5: and we wondered why. So we just started being interesting definitely.

1251
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hillary, it is so good to see you, and

1252
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: you it's so awesome to talk to you, because it's like,

1253
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: not only do you look the same, you are the same.

1254
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: You were like the coolest, most mature, unflappable, like you

1255
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: were a full grown woman when I knew you back then,

1256
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: and you you are now. It's so cool. I just

1257
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: I love you. It's so great to see you.

1258
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 5: I'm so glad I was changed. I was so nervous,

1259
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 5: I think especially for Danielle and will because I was like,

1260
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 5: how do I how did I come off when I

1261
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 5: was fifteen? Because my uh at fifteen, I think my

1262
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 5: fifteen in sixteen, my sort of one I felt insecure.

1263
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 5: My roat thing was to get like very stone cold

1264
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 5: and sort of intimidate and be sort of stand offish,

1265
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 5: which luckily I.

1266
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 4: Don't remember that at all. I just remember you being

1267
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 4: I mean, you and I didn't work together.

1268
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't think ever, no, But but I just remember

1269
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 3: you being very nice and fitting in and getting along

1270
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 3: with everybody.

1271
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,839
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of the only thing I remember.

1272
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 5: Really.

1273
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember I don't remember feeling like you

1274
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: were stand offish, but I definitely knew that you were

1275
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: very close to the Strong family and it felt like,

1276
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: you know, the friendship was with them, and so there,

1277
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 2: I do remember feeling like there isn't room for friendship

1278
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 2: with me, even though I was friends with writer too.

1279
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: But it did very much feel like Hillary belongs to

1280
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: the Strongs.

1281
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 5: And so interesting because I felt the same way about

1282
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 5: you and Andrew.

1283
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 2: Right, well, Andrew and I did belong to each other.

1284
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 5: That's no way that Disney It.

1285
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: Was like you'll were right.

1286
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: We all did the Disney World episode together, of course.

1287
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: And that that is absolutely true. Andrew was mine there,

1288
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 2: like Andrew was my friend who was there, and I

1289
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: felt very protective over him, like you know, so yes

1290
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: to you are spot on.

1291
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: I wasn't anybody's and I wasn't a Disney and I

1292
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 3: wasn't at Disney World.

1293
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: And you're not coming again.

1294
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: I was just alone time by myself and I will

1295
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: eat by myself.

1296
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: You had Pops the world.

1297
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: You got it.

1298
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 5: You got the week off.

1299
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got pay for a week do nothing.

1300
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 4: That's the same.

1301
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: Sorry, So Hillary, Sorry, looking back now thirty years later,

1302
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: looking on your at your work as a child in

1303
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: the nineties, with everything that you went through and now

1304
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: all of the teaching and helping to train the minds

1305
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: of other actors. What do you feel when you watch

1306
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 2: young Hillary on screen.

1307
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 5: Oh, that's so good. I think I am. I would

1308
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 5: say I'm ninety percent, like just really, I think I'm

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Speaker 5: proud of her. I think she did, like she rose

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Speaker 5: above her station. She had some really cool friends, she

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Speaker 5: had some really good times. I think she proved herself

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Speaker 5: to be an actor, you know, who could hang, who

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Speaker 5: could hang with other good actors. Like, you know, she

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Speaker 5: wasn't a she took it seriously, she wasn't a hack.

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Speaker 5: You know. I wish I could tell her now, you

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Speaker 5: were worth it, even if you didn't book it, you

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 5: were worth it, even if you weren't as good as

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Speaker 5: you were, you know, like you were worthy of all

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Speaker 5: of that. But mostly I think it brings back like

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Speaker 5: that was fun, that was a special thing. Not every

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Speaker 5: fifteen year old gets to do those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and not every fifteen year old is

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Speaker 2: able to rise to the occasion and come out the

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Speaker 2: other side of it with positive stories and able to

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Speaker 2: make a positive contribution continuing and moving forward. So not

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Speaker 2: only were you worthy, but you are in the top

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Speaker 2: tier of people who were ever able to do it,

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Speaker 2: and your life now is evidence of that. So thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for being here with us and spending

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Speaker 2: this time with us and reconnecting. I want to give

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Speaker 2: you a big hug or close the screen I know

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Speaker 2: and see.

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Speaker 4: No like I can reach out.

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: I think it's about a three hour flight, so we should.

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Speaker 2: We could probably be there this weekend.

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Speaker 3: You know we're thinking of Andcino Calgary totally.

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Speaker 2: Let's please get together.

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Speaker 5: I would love that you guys anytime. You guys would

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01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 5: love if any of you want to come in and

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01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 5: uh co teach my masterclass with me. We could do

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01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 5: a multi cam night. What a what a wonderful How

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Speaker 5: lucky these these actors would be to get you to

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01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 5: be so much?

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Speaker 2: That would be cool, That would be fun.

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Speaker 5: I would love to you guys.

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Speaker 3: There's an Italian place in Encino with a giant long table.

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 4: We can go see that called Buka Deo right there.

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Speaker 2: But do they have people dressed in Italian?

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Speaker 5: That's what I remember is they would talk. But like

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01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 5: we thought it was great, but now I'm in retrospect.

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Speaker 2: Hillary, thank you so much for being here. Can't wait

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Speaker 2: to see you again soon.

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Speaker 5: Yes, y'all take care. I have a great day.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye. Man is she incredible?

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Speaker 4: She sucks?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's just the worst, horrible, horrible interview,

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: just like she's the best I like I It was

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Speaker 1: so funny. The second her face appeared on screen, I

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 1: was filled with longing, like I just missed her, and

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's one of those things, like I

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Speaker 1: guess in a weird way, we probably it's because she

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01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: and Shiloh that they broke up and we lost our

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01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: friendship as a result, right, which is the bummer?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean that, but that happens with with siblings.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I didn't even know they dated. I

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Speaker 2: mean I gathered it from at the beginning, and I.

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Speaker 1: Realized, now that's why we lost touch. Otherwise we never

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Speaker 1: would have lost touch. I loved Hillary, like it's so

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Speaker 1: good to see her.

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Speaker 4: I just love hearing that they got to share a

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Speaker 4: bed in my family. Literally, even if you were engaged,

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 4: you could not. When you were married, you could share

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Speaker 4: a bed.

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Speaker 2: Listen at Ryder's house. YEA tie your own shoes.

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Speaker 5: You were in.

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 4: Adult, allowed to be in bed with whoever you are.

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Speaker 2: What you need to tie your shoes because no one

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01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: was wearing sho exactly add to the woods with this

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Speaker 2: knife see you later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I really loved talking to her and hearing about her

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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: life that I knew absolutely nothing about before the sun.

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Speaker 1: I've never read that about her mom. That's super interesting

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 1: and actually, you know, makes a lot of sense. The

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Speaker 1: way you analyze d Daniel was acts exactly right, and

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Speaker 1: the way she's talked about like maturity being almost more

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Speaker 1: important than talent at that age, and it's so true,

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01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: Like you see that, you see that the child actors

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Speaker 1: that end up working a lot, especially under ten, have

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 1: a preternatural like maturity level almost more than they can act.

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: Like the important part is can you be cool on set?

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01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: Can you be cool with memorizing lines?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: Are you so smart handle the blocking?

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01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: Can you handle the blocking? Like all that is almost

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01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: more important than your ability to like be present in

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01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: the moment or make choices honestly, which is what so

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Speaker 1: much of acting is, you realize as you get older.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, interesting, God, so cool to see her. Thank

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