WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Who's No. 2?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, February fifth, twenty twenty, Season fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode number one four. Team. Welcome to another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Queer Life and the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At

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<v Speaker 1>the start, we're talking Cowboys football here with you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for about an hour and a lot of things to

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<v Speaker 1>get into today. We're going to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about some some players that are coming up on their

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<v Speaker 1>contracts will be expired ring here in the next several

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<v Speaker 1>week couple weeks, and what the Cowboys should maybe do

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<v Speaker 1>around some of those players that. In the first segment,

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<v Speaker 1>second segment, we're actually going to spend a little time

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<v Speaker 1>going through a very interesting article that Nick wrote about

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl, talk about some of his takeaways from

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<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl, See if Dave and Amber think they're

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<v Speaker 1>as interesting as I do. And then in the final segment,

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<v Speaker 1>we will get to some phone calls, so you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can call us eight eight eight eight five five two

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<v Speaker 1>two nine seven. We'll take questions, we'll take comments, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want to talk about. In that third segment,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be here for you and have those conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>How's everybody doing today, great, We're good. Yeah? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys enjoying offseason? Love it? Nick? No, Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's offseason. This is the first time it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough offseason, though this is tougher than usual. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say this was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that I was actually kind of bummed and upset. Like

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<v Speaker 1>usually I'm like, oh, yes, offseason, I'm ready to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break or whatever. But this was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>of me seating all my college watching the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and being like what the heck like, which i mean

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<v Speaker 1>not that the Cowboys deserved to be there, but I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like we should have been there making this happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>should be in Miami right now, and I was not there.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be in Miami. Two years ago the super was

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<v Speaker 1>in Super Bowls in Minneapolis. I doubt she was out

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<v Speaker 1>of boy, should be in Miami living it up and

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<v Speaker 1>covering the Cowboys who are about the battle. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was bummed. I know, I don't like this was an

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eighteen. They didn't deserve to be anywhere near there,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's twenty sixteen. Yeah, I remember being like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is stupid. We should may I never thought that should

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<v Speaker 1>be there, but it should have happened last year. Should

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<v Speaker 1>means deserve Like that's no, they're very different. It's like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I have and then, like many other people, very high

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<v Speaker 1>hopes at the beginning of the season, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>certain that that was going to be the year, and

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<v Speaker 1>it clearly was not that way. I think she just

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<v Speaker 1>wants to cover the game, like be at the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not so much the Cowboys. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of media here in Dallas, they though, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fun reasons to go there, well, you know what, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great way to phrase it. People find reasons

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<v Speaker 1>to go there. They definitely do, which I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about that, not to get into journalism weeds,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, if I ever have a chance to cover

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl, I wanted to be for a better

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<v Speaker 1>reason than just like I found a reason to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like like the team that you cover and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Cowboys first trip in thirty years or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to just like I'm gonna find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to be down there even though I cover Anthony Hitchens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to do I've done that. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine, the Cowboys had UM. They the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff was the coaches for the Pro Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>then Emmett was going into the UM to the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame. It was the Saints and Colts. It was

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<v Speaker 1>that whole week and I did that. I like found

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers that played for the Saints. I forgot their name.

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<v Speaker 1>They had two of them, Scott Figina and Vilma probably Shanley. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Shanley. Yeah, a couple of formers, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>really care about that. But it was a reason to

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<v Speaker 1>get the Chiefs. Have six guys yeah that that that

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<v Speaker 1>have a ring that we're with the Cowboys. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like cool, you know, very few of them, well

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<v Speaker 1>only half of them actually played an important role for

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<v Speaker 1>that team, but yeah, they all get they all get

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<v Speaker 1>rings like like the next guy. So right, yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's jump into this free agent talk a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>just to give you guys some context. The Cowboys, where

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the NFL, their schedule is set up such

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<v Speaker 1>that starting February twenty fifth through March tenth, that will

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<v Speaker 1>be the period where teams can designate their franchise players

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<v Speaker 1>or transaction I'm trying transition tag players, and then free

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<v Speaker 1>agency will begin on the eighteenth. There will be that

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<v Speaker 1>little period of two days between the sixteenth and eighteenth

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<v Speaker 1>to March where teams can start negotiating. But all that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, during Super Bowl week we heard some interesting things.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard comments from Stephen he said the Dacks is

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<v Speaker 1>the number one priority for them, and follow that up

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<v Speaker 1>with the Mars probably number two. And and we also

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<v Speaker 1>heard some things from Dak about his thoughts on the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>The first question I have for you guys is, how

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<v Speaker 1>would you handle this contract coming up, this contract period

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, Knowing that you have Dak out there, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a Mari out there, you have Byron Jones out there.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you handle specifically Dak and a Mari going

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<v Speaker 1>into this this free agency period. Well, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's easy to say Dak's top priority, Cooper second,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's kind of what people think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the most money. But I think it's important in

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<v Speaker 1>the order I think DAK needs to have. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to get a long term deal with that so you

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<v Speaker 1>can be flexible with what you want to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper if that means a transition tag or a franchise tag.

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<v Speaker 1>But you got to remember, transition tag could go away

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<v Speaker 1>if the CBA is signed or it doesn't. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go away, but you can't use both. Yeah, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the CBA is and it's since it's expiring,

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<v Speaker 1>you can use You can have a transition tag and

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise tag, but if that doesn't happen, you can

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<v Speaker 1>only use one or the other. And when you say,

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<v Speaker 1>if that doesn't happen in other case, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Cowboy I mean, I mean, if the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and the Players Union actually come to an agreement on

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<v Speaker 1>a new CBA, then tell me what happens at that

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<v Speaker 1>point if you have a franchise and a transition if

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<v Speaker 1>you have both, yeah, I mean, if you have both,

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<v Speaker 1>from what it sounds like, the transition goes away. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe maybe then, And these are all

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<v Speaker 1>things I assume that are maybe negotiated, So it may

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<v Speaker 1>not actually be. In fact, we know what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is there is some there is some

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<v Speaker 1>ambiguity about what happens with regards to those tags if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a new CBO. Right, let me just answer it differently,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me just say that I think that that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you signed back to a long term deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to get it done. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>get it done, and then I would franchise Amari. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that makes more sense with him. That's what I think. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you ask for my approach, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they both need to be signed. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to sign them both. And that, honestly, that was I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it Dak's honesty there during Super Bowl Week when

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, honestly, I thought it would happen before

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<v Speaker 1>the season, because so did I, so did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us. And I know, you know, it takes two

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<v Speaker 1>to tango. Dak's got to be willing to sign a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got to be willing to offer what he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>I get all of that, but they need to get

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<v Speaker 1>this thing done. Okay, So but but I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's the rub. Are you willing if you're the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you willing to go to the number that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants just to get it done? Isn't that important to

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<v Speaker 1>you just to get it what's the number that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants if if he really wants forty, I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess that number is well above the thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three or maybe even thirty four that that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking. He probably falls in line with those other

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Golf and and went. It's probably not there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably something above that. Or what is your point

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, Okay, I can get up to here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't go beyond that, even though I know

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<v Speaker 1>that that can be hurt. That can hurt my team

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<v Speaker 1>if I have to franchise him or whatever. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the fun part is that that conversation is could change

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<v Speaker 1>soon because the Chiefs have made it known that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a priority for them to lock down Patrick Mahomes, who

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<v Speaker 1>has the credentials and the resume to ask for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he wants, and he will be the NFL's first forty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar player. I don't I mean, there's somebody bench

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<v Speaker 1>that the other day and I was like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you can completely rule it out. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he would do that, because it would I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>now you really are starting to talk about crippling your team.

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<v Speaker 1>You would honestly have to have a new CBA, and

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<v Speaker 1>the economics of football have to drastically change to where

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<v Speaker 1>you can afford to put fifty million on a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would be shocked if he hit

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<v Speaker 1>forty two million a year and or you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>forty three whatever. So point being is that's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it happens before Dak is signed, that's just economics.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Dak is like, well, the structure has changed now

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<v Speaker 1>and now like thirty six isn't what it was or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight isn't what it was, And so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to answer it more bluntly, like my line in the

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<v Speaker 1>sand right now, it's probably like thirty five, where I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? Like why do you think you

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<v Speaker 1>deserve more than that? Like why would I pay you

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<v Speaker 1>more than what I'm what's Russell Wilson is being paid?

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<v Speaker 1>And but again, if Pat Mahomes making forty two, I

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<v Speaker 1>know he's not. Pat Mahomes, stop yelling at me. I

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<v Speaker 1>can hear all of you doing that, but again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>economics more than anything. It resets the market, so that

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<v Speaker 1>number changes if he signs, which is all the more

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<v Speaker 1>reason why it's got to happen soon. You just can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford to be going up against that contract, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact is resetting the market then kind of resets things

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<v Speaker 1>for Russell as well. It almost blows the thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>out of the water because then it's like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six, he may not be better than Russell, but

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<v Speaker 1>Russell hasn't had a new deal since the forty two

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<v Speaker 1>is set, So yeah, that's why it makes it difficult. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's the guy I think that's in the way. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I think the Cowboys are really worried

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<v Speaker 1>about is Deshaun Watson. That's the one that you look

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<v Speaker 1>at his stats and what he's done in accomplishments, and

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<v Speaker 1>Houston might be the type of team or you know

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<v Speaker 1>that just says we're gonna pay for what he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And that's the one that kind of scares

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<v Speaker 1>they think the Cowboys more than Mahomes because I just

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<v Speaker 1>think Mahomes is on a completely different level. But Watson

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson. You're talking about those other two guys that

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<v Speaker 1>God deals that both have been in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I don't know. I just don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think. I think the Cowboys need to stick

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<v Speaker 1>to their guns on this one. I really do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to happen where let's say they

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<v Speaker 1>go and pay that big amount of money and then

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<v Speaker 1>Dak essentially he's playing the same way that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him play, although he had a growth this past year.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, you know, Nike always talks

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<v Speaker 1>about clutch moments like can he be that player in

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<v Speaker 1>those critical moments of the game, And if it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're really gonna be talking about like what And

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<v Speaker 1>he happens all the time with players when they get

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of big contracts. Exactly. Let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>go back to what you just said. Let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the start of the season, and let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>he signs the deal for thirty three million a year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he is now the you know, highest paid in Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>history and all this stuff that goes with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the season happens just like it did, like it did.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we viewing him differently. I think we'd be

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<v Speaker 1>viewing him very similar to how people are viewing DeMarcus Lawrence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think DeMarcus Lawrence had a bad year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>for the contract, people are like, h did we really

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<v Speaker 1>get what we're paid for? Like, that's the point, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so when when you factor all that in, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, well should he get more than that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because if he would have had that money

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<v Speaker 1>and gone eight and eight and not ever led the

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<v Speaker 1>team back in the second half of any game, then

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, I don't think. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus and all those guys that have signed deals, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they had that much of a step back. Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just you know, I think I think I will

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<v Speaker 1>be alone in this, but I think I would view

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<v Speaker 1>it more favorably. You do, Yeah, because I would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>not the best season, that's not going to cut it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's costing this towards the salary cap. But again, we

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<v Speaker 1>started the clock. We started the clock on this contract.

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<v Speaker 1>We're already working toward being out from under the bad

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. He is already settled into the hierarchy

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<v Speaker 1>where Mahomes is going to pass him, Watson's gonna pass him,

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar's gonna pass him soon, and in two or three

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<v Speaker 1>years he will be tenth on the list, like Jimmy Garoppolo,

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<v Speaker 1>who I will say, for the millionth time, set the

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<v Speaker 1>market when he signed and it's been less than two

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<v Speaker 1>years and he's ninth. That's that's how this works. It

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. And so if it had just happened in September,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, no, you didn't get your return

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<v Speaker 1>on investment, but you feel good about his development and

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<v Speaker 1>his trajectory, and you have started the clock on this

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<v Speaker 1>instead of sitting here going exactly how much are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to pay this guy? Because it's starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get scary when you're thinking about these other deals that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to hit. So yeah, I would feel way back.

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<v Speaker 1>And he did not have a great season, not a

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<v Speaker 1>season worthy of that contract, but I'd still feel better

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<v Speaker 1>about the situation if he was under contract. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody feels like we could you know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>sign this guy four or five years. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much it's gonna be, but yeah, he'll be the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you as comfortable with the four to five

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<v Speaker 1>years at that price or you know, at the top

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<v Speaker 1>value for Maria Cooper. See that one seems more scary

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and I'll actually, I'll that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break. When we come back, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hit that question. And I also want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask the question, like, when you start looking at that,

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<v Speaker 1>should he really even be your second priority? You got

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<v Speaker 1>other guys like Robert Quinn out there, you got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones out there? Should he really be the second

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<v Speaker 1>priority for this team? Based on what you've seen so far?

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<v Speaker 1>And let's not also forget this is a draft that's

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<v Speaker 1>very deep, deep at the wide receiver position, as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Dave can tell us from his work of the

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<v Speaker 1>At the start, we're talking about free agency. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about some guys that Cowboys will have that they will

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<v Speaker 1>have to either resign or let walker or maybe put

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise tag. I'm talking about Dak Prescott. But the

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<v Speaker 1>question before the break is about who the next guy is.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the next highest priority for the Cowboys. You got

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper out there, You've got Byron Jones out there,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Robert Quinn out there. If you had to

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<v Speaker 1>choose only one of those guys that you're really gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make a priority, you know, you're gonna try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>Dak with this other guy's going to be the only

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<v Speaker 1>other priority that you have. Who's that guy gonna be?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's a mari because you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you start trading away draft picks and not getting any return,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you your team will will suffer. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I still view him as the first

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick from last year, and you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get some you know, investment on that. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would do that, you know, I would try to

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<v Speaker 1>see if this new receiver's coach in this new offense.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know if it's a new offense,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, different wrinkles. I would like to see

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<v Speaker 1>what they can do here. And you know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>like the franchise tag for him because I like one

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<v Speaker 1>more year and then, you know, then then we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>where you are. And then after three years, if he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out, then okay, maybe maybe you can move on.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing, Dak, He's not to me, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in my perspective. He's not the type of quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that can make it happen on his own. He needs

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of players like we've seen them go by

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<v Speaker 1>committee and switch around receivers and it just did not

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<v Speaker 1>work out. Dad needs help from these other guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are able to catch the ball. And when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to a Mari, I mean he obviously I have my

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<v Speaker 1>questions about him because those away games, he just never

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<v Speaker 1>showed up. And it sucks when you only have a

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<v Speaker 1>good player for half of your games and then for

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<v Speaker 1>the other half it's like, all right, well what a bummer.

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<v Speaker 1>But my thing is, if it's not him, who who

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<v Speaker 1>is it gonna be? Who else can come in at

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<v Speaker 1>receiver and create that kind of impact when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to Dad handling the offense and finding guys on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So Dave answered that question for me. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>assume for a second that the Cowboys did want to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take our chances here at wide receiver because

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<v Speaker 1>we think this draft is deep enough. Are there guys

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<v Speaker 1>that would be available to the Cowboys in this draft

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<v Speaker 1>who can come in and immediately because that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't wait two or three years that immediately can

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<v Speaker 1>provide you at least what Cooper was providing you as

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<v Speaker 1>of last year, and have a ceiling that can get

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<v Speaker 1>even better than that. You're always taking a risk that

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<v Speaker 1>that guy's going to be able to contribute right away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just especially where they're picking. I mean, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, this receiver class is absolutely loaded. They will

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<v Speaker 1>be able to find talent. If they found Michael Gallup

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<v Speaker 1>at pick eighty one, receivers like that'll be available. Receivers

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<v Speaker 1>like that'll probably be available in the fourth round if

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<v Speaker 1>this receiver class is what it's supposed to be. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup, like inconsistent as a rookie, was not ready

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<v Speaker 1>to put a real load on himself. Blew up this

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<v Speaker 1>season to a degree, but still wasn't a consistent He

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<v Speaker 1>still would call a number one receiver, yet of course

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<v Speaker 1>not only had the chance in the Jets game, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work on Um, you know, Jerry Judy's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Te Higgins, Henry Ruggs from Alabama, like the Rugs

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<v Speaker 1>is a speak guy right incredibly. Um, the list goes

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<v Speaker 1>on and on, but if you take them on, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's what it's that classic thing of like if I

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<v Speaker 1>take a Mari Cooper out of this lineup and plug

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<v Speaker 1>in a rookie, let's say, alongside Michael Gallup and Randall Cobb.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I get better? I don't think the answers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in the future, like you know, two three years

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<v Speaker 1>down the line, that could be really nice, or you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of keeping a Mari and drafting

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. I love that idea. You know, wouldn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>you from bringing Randall cop back? Sure, Devin, Devin Duvernet,

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Johnson, Um no, no, no, Okayne is really ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard at Duvernet in my life? That's fine? But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the list goes on and on. Calmney called Denzel

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<v Speaker 1>Men's Oh geez, I forgot arguably the best guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, Ceedee Lamb could be there for you at

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<v Speaker 1>pick seventeen. Take that. Um yeah, the list goes on

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<v Speaker 1>and on. But I don't know. To to Age's point,

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<v Speaker 1>I just does this team get better letting Amari Cooper leave? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think the answers yet they

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<v Speaker 1>get better when he got But yeah, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys are not considering is are you willing

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<v Speaker 1>to commit the money? I get your point. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I am more in line with you from the standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather see him franchise, be honest, with you because

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see another year, But are you willing

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<v Speaker 1>to commit? And again, I don't know what they're asking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing what is happening right now because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really hear answers from him or the Jones or nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like, oh, yeah, it's one of our priorities.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, Okay, we've heard things about the Dak

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott's a contract, but then when it comes to a Mari,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't heard anything. I'm not asking top five money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not willing to do that this year. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys, hop, Um, do you consider him

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<v Speaker 1>a top five receiver in the NFL? No, you consider

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<v Speaker 1>on the top ten receiver in the NFL. Well, let

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<v Speaker 1>me flip this back on you. I mean, is Dak

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott a top five quarterback in the NFL? Is that No?

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say this about what it boils down

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<v Speaker 1>to some degree in other positions. I think for quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>the difference is if you get a quarterback that you

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<v Speaker 1>think is good enough to get you to Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to hold on to him because they are

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<v Speaker 1>not plentiful. Wide receivers are plentiful, like there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good wide receivers around the NFL. You get

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<v Speaker 1>a good when you put him in your system, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably have product productivity from your passing gig Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's the same thing as the way

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<v Speaker 1>you have to evaluate a quarterback where you just can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford to go back to the bottom of the league

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<v Speaker 1>where you don't have an option at all. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, and that's I mean, I'd be fine signing Amari.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the cap to handle it. But if they

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<v Speaker 1>I would not hate the idea of franchising Amari, drafting

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver somewhat high, and grooming that guy to help

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<v Speaker 1>you move forward if you don't want to resign him later,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine with me. You know, I think there's three

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>receivers that are definitely better or you know, Houston, m

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 1>what's his name, Hopkins, Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Julio Jones,

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Fante Adams is in there, and Mike Evans, And then

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 1>when you get to that point, you know, in O'Dell,

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I still think it is. I mean, I think there's

0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff going on there for Cleveland, but

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he's still talented wise. I mean, I think

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>he's as good as anybody, so, but that's when you

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 1>start making arguments. That's where I think the sixth seven,

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you know range, he's somewhere in that jumble behind like

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, those top guys. I think Hopkins and Julio

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:34.119
<v Speaker 1>are in like a class all their own at this point,

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>but he's in that jumble behind everybody. You know, where

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you can go, there's like a list of eight. I mean,

0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 1>Keenan Allen's another one. Nobody you know still only like

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty six or turning twenty six. I really wouldn't have

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a problem paying him. And that's do you get better

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>letting him go at least? I mean, if again, if

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to draft Jerry Judy and groom him, that's

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a different conversation. But like you're not getting better without him,

0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's and I get your point Amber, Like, yes,

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Dak does need help, but like so does everybody. By

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:08.959
<v Speaker 1>the way, like Mahomes is encouraged, Mahomes is incredible, but

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>let's not act like there's not a boatload of skill

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>talent on that offense. I'm actually shocked that you guys

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>don't put Tyry Kill up there with those top wide receivers,

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>because I think he should be up there with those

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 1>top guys. I think you look at how he performs,

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and it is a consistent thing pretty much throughout the year,

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>game in and game out, he is making place for

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>his team. His route changed the Super Bowl. Yeah, the

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>ability to turn that safety the way he did and

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and create himself wide open. And he does that all

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the time, and teams are paying attention to him, teams

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 1>are trying to take him out of the game, and

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>he still's fine. It's kind of like what Abe was

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>doing in Houston for a long time. I mean, I'm

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>sorry in Pittsburgh for a long time, where teams would

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>try to double him, would try to take him out

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of games. His route running was just so good that

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>he could still get open. This is not fair, And honestly,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.879
<v Speaker 1>i'm a little I'm reluctant to say this about Michael

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Thomas because he did it with Teddy Bridgewater and his

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:03.120
<v Speaker 1>hands are like vacuum cleaners. He's nuts. But like I said,

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not fair. But Tyreek Hill, I'm like, I want

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to see you play with not the best quarterback ever,

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I want to see you play with somebody that's

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not a human cheat code. What I think a lot

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>of it is just his insane arm talent combined with

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>hills insane speed. Like that's a ridiculous combination to try

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to defend. But I've seen Hopkins do that with Ryan

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Fitzpatrick for years. I get it. I just the way

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I look at that is you get a quarterback that

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>can just sling. It works right because Tyreek Hill is

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's gonna make you look really good because

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he can just get open. He's faster than everybody else,

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and he runs good enough routes like you were saying,

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl runs good enough routs at if he

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>gets you, he's smart enough to know how to get

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you off balance, and then if he gets a step,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he's gone. You can't catch him. Between all, I I mean,

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Hills on a big contract, Watkins is on a big contract.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Kelsey's arguably the best tight end in the league. And

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>then Nicole Hardman and they spent a top one hundred

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>pick on and he's got he can run too. Mahomes

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely incredible, not taking any credit away from him,

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>but people act like he's the only thing on that offense.

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm like, no, there's there's a lot of talent

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>there for him to work with. Yeah, okay, well here's

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>another question. It's high from the whole talent subject. Are

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>any of you guys concerned at all about all these

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>foot injuries that and Mari went through last year? That

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>doesn't concern you for this year? Yeah, yeah, that wouldn't.

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>That wouldn't even my number one concerned. But yeah, now

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned, and it is really Yeah, I don't know.

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I'm not as concerned about that. I

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of thought of those as just kind of you know,

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of those fluke injuries that happened when you play football.

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>You know. I've never heard said he's dealt with that

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, so it's like that. But I

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know that I've heard anything that suggests that this

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 1>is a long term problem for him. I think when

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you run as much as any receiver does, you're probably

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna have issues. And by the way, he wasn't missing

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of games like he played through a lot

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.239
<v Speaker 1>of that. Now it was one game where there's one

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>game that that you know, he just he obviously did

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>had it that day. But but my point still is

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is not what which the game?

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Which game you're talking about? Honestly? Was that the Jets? Yeah?

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't yeah, I didn't know you're talking about

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that game or the one where the Ego game where Yeah,

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean no, the Jets game is weirder to me.

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:19.640
<v Speaker 1>The Jets game is the game that just seemed weird

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to everybody because you were like, so, you were pretty

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>good or thought you could play all week, and you

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>thought you could play on game day, and then a

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>couple plays in without anything seemingly happening, you just kind

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of like, I absolutely can't do it right. That's the

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>part that was wed next week. Yeah, that was a

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>little weird to everybody, to everybody, but again we don't

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>know what is Like his body may have just like

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he may have just twisted it the wrong way coming

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>out of his you know, coming out of a break

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 1>or something. Who knows. I need you on the field

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>on fourth and eighth. I need you to be on

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the field, like that's on the Eagle game, Like that's

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the one in Cob too. I mean, let's don't put

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Cob kind of got him down there.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know is demeanor scares me. And

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to say that because it because it's

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>like everybody's built differently, and you're like, don't question my

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>toughness or my heart or any of that stuff. We

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>based off what you see. Because I'm a quiet guy,

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but I just it scares me because

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't know. If you don't see the fire, you

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>don't see it. I'm saying you have to be like

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Odell Beckham, but you just don't see it. And it's

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>it's scary because that was a contract year when you're

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be really really hungry. Yeah, so I don't

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. It's it's so funny how you

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>swing from these different extremes like yeah, where it's like, man,

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>just settle down. Yeah, it's okay, and then on this

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you're like, man, you gotta pick it up. Something we

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>gotta see. And I don't get me wrong, I'm not

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>saying I don't feel the same way, but but it

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>is kind of this this dueling thing where you're like,

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>give me a look. You want to have the kind

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of the perfect guy, but you know, guys aren't perfect.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 1>They aren't perfect, they are perfect. It is what it is. Right,

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you watch the Pro Bowl, you know, and first play

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the game, he like drops a pass or you're like,

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>first play of the game, but he didn't score a touchdown. Later, Um,

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, Dave, you saw that he scored in the

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. Yeah, didn't watch a second of it. That's

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a little more going on that day. What was that day?

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Oh yeah, that was a weird day. Um,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean I sort of agree with

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>most of what you just said, but at the time,

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, guy's had a thousand yards

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like five of his six seasons in the league. He's

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>pretty damn good player, he is. But the question is,

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>do you want the guy that's consistently gonna give you

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>ninety eighty nine one hundred yards a week or you

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>want the guy that's gonna give you some two hundreds

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>or some one fifties, but then some weeks he has thirty.

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Like that's where you have. That's what you have to

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>make it. We've said recently that like that's almost everybody, really,

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like that's almost every receiver, like at the top, very

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>very hard to be a week in week out, six

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>catches hundred yards. Guy one now I will say, though

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it is a little even I will say this about

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>some of those other receivers, though there are times when

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you see them they might not have a great game statistically,

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>but there'll be moments in that game, maybe it's towards

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the end of the game, where they will make a

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>huge play for their team. And I think in a

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Mari's case, I do wonder if it seems like when

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he disappears, he kind of just disappears. I would want

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to see even in games where they may not they

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>may not think the matchup is favorable to really go

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to him a lot, but I would think at some

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>point in that game they figure out how to get

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>a play that really can make a difference in the game.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.479
<v Speaker 1>And it just seems like it's either or for him.

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like there are those games where even

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>if he's not having a great statistical day, there's a

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>big moment that he provides where the team needs something

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he can look to him. And when you look at

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>it in this different perspective, it's like, in those games

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>where he wasn't playing necessarily well, does his presence still

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>bring something to the field where it now creates more

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>opportunities for these other guys. It probably does. And that's

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>how I used to see the Marcus Lawrence. I'm like, Okay,

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>even at times in my mind, like even before this

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.239
<v Speaker 1>past year, he's the one guy that, regardless of him

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>not making a specific play, his presence still creates opportunities

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>for these other guys next to him. So is he

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that type of player when he's on the field. I

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, I mean, I would think that

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it probably helps. I would think defenses have to go

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>into games thinking as far the passing game is concerned,

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the first priority probably is you got to stop Amari Cooper. Now,

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the first priority really you got to stop to run.

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>But and that's the number one with the Cowboys, I

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>would think if you're playing them, but when you're talking

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>about the passing game, I would assume that the first

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>guy they got to be worried about is Amark Cooper,

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to spend a little extra time trying

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to take him out of games, which should create opportunities

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.239
<v Speaker 1>for others. To go back to the overall question, I mean,

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the world of Byron I think he's underrated.

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't get takeaways, but his covers. He's outstanding and

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to do what he did this year without an offseason

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>really impressive. Robert Quinn fantastic, like played out so perfectly.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Like that's exactly the type of addition the Cowboys need

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to be making, low cost, high upside saying it for years.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to have him both back, and I think

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it's realistic to think two of those three can be here.

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Probably would. I think it would be Cooper and Quinn. Unfortunately,

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>point being is like I'm going to resign the guy

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that touches the football the most often and really has

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the biggest chance to directly impact games because we always

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean and like the best day of your life

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>as a defensive end is getting like three sacks out

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of eighty snaps. You know, Like you just don't have

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>as many opportunities to impact the game as a quarterback

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously or a wide receiver. So Cooper's got to be

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>priority number two. Ember, you agree with that, Cooper your

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>second priority? Yeah, Well, like I said, when he comes

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>up to the offense, third at a Quinn, MALIEK. Collins

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and Byron Jones. Yeah, you can take whatever free agent

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you want. Who's the third guy? If we all agree

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that Cooper's a second. Who's the third guy? I'm sorry,

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Well it's to me it would be between

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Quinn and Byron Jones. I just don't think they'll be

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>able to give Byron Jones the kind of money that

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>he probably deserves to keep him here. But he's a

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>guy that I don't think it's gonna be that easy

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>replacing him, and regardless of him not being able to

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>catch balls, I mean, the way he plays still and

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are still gonna need a lot of help

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>in the secondary as a whole. I mean, you got

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Cheeto Jordan. When when are they next? Next? Next? Next year?

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>That's coming up too, So maybe you gotta draft a

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>guy and somebody so definitely got a draft a guy

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>this year. I think there's there's a lot of question

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>marks there in a lot of needs. You better do

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>one of those two, Quinn or Byron Jones, because if

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't have Byron Jones, and then you need somebody

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to definitely get after that quarterback. And if you don't

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>have Quinn, then you need someone to cover. So, I mean,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think they're gonna get Byron Jones in

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a perfect world. I don't think it's even close. I

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>would resign Byron, like if money was him a Quinn, Yeah,

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>if money was no object. He's twenty seven, he's super athletic.

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But we're not in a perrect w I just I

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>don't based on the money factoring everything, you know, I

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's realistic to think Byron Jones comes back here,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and unless they were to get a deal done with

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>one of these two in the next month and open

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>up the franchise tag. But guess what for Byron Jalen Smith.

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>We're thinking those guys, we're gonna get somewhere else. News flash.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>We're wrong all the time. But like, but to your point, yeah,

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that would that happened in August. That happened, like you

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>got months to sort through it and get you know,

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>get through the season. We're in crunch time right now

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>where there's there's five weeks until free agency opens, and

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>unless the Cowboys were willing to blow Byron Jones away,

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>he'd be insane to take a deal right now when

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>he's this close to hitting the open market where and

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a lot of options. They can't franchise them,

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>probably because they got these other ones they got to do.

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Probably can't transition. I mean, they've got these other ones.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>This is this is the most earning potential he'll ever

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>have in his life, because somebody's going to be willing

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to throw stupid money at him. And I just can't

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>imagine he'd be willing to take a deal before he

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>sees what that would look like. And I personally, I

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>think that's a mistake for a team. I think if

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>a team pays him top five cornerback money, I think

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a mistake. I think he is a good cornerback.

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I think we're our opinions are somewhat put on a

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 1>curve because based on all the cornerbacks you got here,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>he's the best of what you got here. But I

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>think he's a good cornerback. I don't think he's a

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>great quarterback. I think, I mean, that's so hard to

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>say until you know where he goes. Like if the

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions pay him out just out the wazoo and

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>it's great, like yeah, then it probably looks like a mistake,

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like is he going to put you over the top.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But like if you were to go to a team

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>like Philadelphia where they are, they mean they still they're

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys, like, despite being disappointing, they have a

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>nice roster, like they're built to succeed. They got the quarterback,

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they got all that stuff in place. They need to

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 1>draft a receiver. But I could imagine he goes there

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh man, Philly's pass rush has been

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>on another level since they had this cornerback that can

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>stick to his coverage and blah blah, and all of

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>a sudden they look really smart. So I think it

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>just depends on where he goes. What I do wonder though,

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>is that we think the coverage has been pretty good.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if on a team where where opposing teams figure, hey,

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>we're going to test him a little bit more, because

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he doesn't get tested a whole lot here.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I think there are better options to go to, obviously,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he gets tested a whole lot here.

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to see what he happened, What happened to

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.439
<v Speaker 1>one of those teams where they say, hey, well we'll

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.439
<v Speaker 1>test him a little bit more. I want to see

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>if he still can because he's not a guy that

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>necessarily he's gonna get his hands on the ball. So

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>what is he gonna what is he gonna do there?

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Because we've seen it here, even in tight cover, sometimes

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>teams are able to complete some passes on him. I

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>wonder what will happen on a team like that. Yeah,

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>I would argue that he gets his hands on the ball,

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't ever catch it. He bats a lot

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>of passes down, he just doesn't catch him. I don't.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously the Mike Nolan quote that he said,

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the story he told about Troy Atman telling him a

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>long time ago. I'm not worried about guys that don't

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>pick the ball off. I mean I'm worried about Dan,

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not worried about I guy that bats the

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>ball down. And I thought immediately, well, that's not good

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>for Byron Jones. Um. I don't even know if he

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>leads the team in past breakups. I'm not sure. I

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>don't even know where he ranks in on the league,

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think that's another I will kind of argue

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>with you a little bit on the on the standpoint

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of you know, he doesn't have they don't have to

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>test him. I mean, you want to be able to

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>play the whole field, and so if it works to

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>test him, you would. I mean, I think the reason

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>why he doesn't get tested a lot because the guy's

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>guy covered. I mean, he's got it covered. Uh, he's

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>a good cover guy. So I just think there's thirty

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>two teams that value differently when it comes to cornerback

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and coverage and the scheme that they play, and somebody's

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>going to have that cap value and be like, this

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>guy covers. That's good, that's better than what we've got.

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But when you're going into it, let's say you're the

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>posing team. You're going into a week against the Cowboys,

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>and you're looking at how this defense plays. You're looking

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.280
<v Speaker 1>at Cheeto, You're looking at you know, Jalen, You're looking

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>at you know, the safeties. Yeah, and you're saying, there

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of ways exploit them in the passing

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>game that I don't really necessarily need to spend a

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of time over there. And to be honest with you,

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean you don't go over there because they

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>still throw it by, right. Yeah, It's just that when

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you look at it, you've got a lot more opportunities

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>in other places, So go to those other places, and

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>because they don't move around, you could take your receiver

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and move him around and put him in some of

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>those favorable situations. That's my only point. And I don't

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>know if on other teams that will necessarily be the

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>case because of the construction of those other defens I'll

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>i'll be interested, because you know, it's the week after

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. Everybody's reflecting on, like, you know, everybody

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not the Niners and the Chiefs is trying to

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>think about, like how that worked for them. And for

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the longest time, you know, the Seahawks were the story

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>of the decade with how they hit on all these

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>draft picks and it was just this perfect storm. And

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that is obviously a very successful way to build a

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl team, but we've also seen that there's no

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>one way to do it, and the Chiefs just and again,

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes is the biggest part of it. But the Chiefs

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>put together a super Bowl roster that is absolutely full

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of gaudy free agent signings. The Broncos did it a

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>few years ago too, Like, there are multiple ways to

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>do this thing. And so if Byron were to go

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>to a team that like to nixt point, he fits

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 1>the scheme, he fits what they need I could see

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it being a really smart signing for somebody, just depends

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:15.800
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<v Speaker 1>Brian in Waco. Bryan, what up, Hey, guys, how's it

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<v Speaker 1>going today? Good? How are you good? Doing good? Doing good? Hey? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a little bit of a comment. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching the other day the sounds on the

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<v Speaker 1>timelines that y'all put out, which are all awesome. By

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the way, I know all the fans really shout out

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to Alex. Shout out Alex slowly. Yeah, Yeah, they're they're amazing. Um.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>The one the last game against the Redskins, there's a

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a particular part where I think Michael Gallat just

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 1>got his second touchdown, I want to say, and uh

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>so Marcus Lawrence comes over and talks to uh, you

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>know the wide receivers till you know, Mary, you know,

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>here's hers is up next to them. Mart He's like, no,

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. You know I'm good, and uh that awesome.

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Just his demeanor kind of scares me a little bit.

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you know, Nick on that a little bit.

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.439
<v Speaker 1>So I was curious what you guys would think about

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe uh uh like releasing him and maybe signing like

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.439
<v Speaker 1>a Chris Jones from the kansasse ce Chiefs, uh their

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle and then just you know, gain the safety

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in the first round and maybe seeing about getting one

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of those wide receivers and the second or third Just

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of your thoughts on that maybe. All right, Thanks

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>for call. Somebody actually asked me about Chris Jones before

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>we went on the air on Twitter, and I mean, yeah,

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>he's like he's the biggest free agent on that Chief's team.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a hell of a player. He made a play

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that changed the game. Um. I know the coaching staff

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 1>is different, but I think all the front office people

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 1>are the same. And I just don't think the Cowboys

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>are going to spend that kind of money on an

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:28.240
<v Speaker 1>outside free agent. I don't think that has changed. Ultimately

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>goes back to Stephen Jerry right, And I don't know

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that they that they've shown us in the last several

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>years that they're willing to go all in on free

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:36.319
<v Speaker 1>agency like that. Yeah, I mean, you know, when you're

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about Amar's contract or Dak or whatever. I mean,

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Dak's obviously going to be here. But if you don't

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>do that with Amari, like the caller just said, I mean,

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you know that that was my biggest problem about not

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>signing Deaz. I mean, they didn't do anything with the money.

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>You know they didn't. I mean, I guess they'll argue

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that they did, you know, moving moving into the next

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>year and maybe signing some the guys that they signed,

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, you better do something with it

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're not gonna if you're not gonna have a

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>top wide receiver. And I think if you look at

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that Jets game, I think they beat that team by

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>fourteen points. If Amar he's there, I think he was

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a difference maker not being there, So you better replace

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it somehow. Like we talked about this in the first segment, like,

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to give him a long term contract,

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to argue too intensely with you, but

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he needs to be on this team in twenty twenty

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're expecting to accomplish remotely close to what your

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.320
<v Speaker 1>goals would be. I think because it sounds great. The

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>caller even said, you know, second third round again, I

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>mean that that's Michael Gallup and he's great, like that

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>is a successful draft pick. But was he ready to

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.320
<v Speaker 1>be a starter on I mean he was, but was

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>he ready to be a starter Week one of twenty eighteen.

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he caught one pass for six yards against

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the Panthers that day, and even and you know, Odell

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Beckham hit the ground running. Hopkins has been awesome from

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the from the jump like it's doable, but it probably there.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>It's right, and even for a first round pick. I mean,

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, people give the Bears crap for draft picking

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Trubisky over Pat Mahomes, like the Tennessee Titans drafted Corey Davis.

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe in that draft if I remember, and like

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>he's had injury issues, it's just it's a crapshoot. I'm

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>not willing to put that kind of strain on a rookie,

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.879
<v Speaker 1>even even if it's Julio Jones, it's a big risk.

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>You can even think about a guy like Deebo Samuel's

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>who everybody agrees is a guy that's going to be

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a really great player in this league if he were

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the only receiving or brought in to be the best

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>receiving threat that they had, and they were going to

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 1>be relying on him like the Cowboys relied on Amari Cooper.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he was ready for that in

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>his first speaking as his fantasy owner, it took him

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>half the season to come on. He was a non

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>factor from September to late October. So another example is

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a later first round pick was DJ Moore for the

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panthers. His first year, pretty good year, you know,

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>but it took a while to kind of get going.

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>And then this second year, I believe he was in

0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl. Ye. So I mean it's not a

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>bad route, It's just that I'm I want the Cowboys

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to draft a receiver and to do it with a

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>high pick this year because I think the receiver classes

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>that loaded and it could be beneficial. But at the

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>very least. I think Amari needs to be on attack.

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>But every year it's the same thing. It's like, oh,

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>let's good displire for development and for the future. He's like, Okay,

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of the future, Like it needs to happen now.

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for someone that can come in and do

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it now. If that's the case, then signed, Sign the

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>guys you've got, you know, sign a Mari Cooper. He

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>can do it now at least twelve. And you can

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>make the case that a deep receiver class means that

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody you like in the fourth or fifth round,

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, because it's so deep, absolutely, you know. And

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. What you know, they had a vision

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>of Tony for Tony Poller's I mean, he wasn't he

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't highly rated running back you know where they drafted him.

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>But they thought that what they had was Zeke, that

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 1>he would be a perfect compliment. So far, I mean,

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he looks like he's That's the quality of this receiver class.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Could push a guy like Devin DuVernay into Day three

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of the draft. I don't know that for sure, but

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>could Yeah, he's he's exclusively a slot guy. I mean

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a little less versa. Where is the Verney gonna go?

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We gotta figure you we gotta figure

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that out. Um yeah, I mean there there's talent to

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>be had in the draft, for sure, but I just

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you're not You're not a playoff contender without Amari Cooper

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>on your team in twenty twenty at least. All right,

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>let's get a call from Tim in Boston. Tim, what up? Hey, guys,

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>thanks take micall. I appreciate a quick question. Do you

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:35.760
<v Speaker 1>think that this new regime coaching staff will actually decide

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to spend some capital on a defensive line as far

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:43.720
<v Speaker 1>as like one technique or the three technique. In the past,

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:45.919
<v Speaker 1>like Dave and Brian went on the Draft show, they'd

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 1>always talk about this defensive lineman and like, oh yeah,

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>but he's more of a one technique handicapping your defensive line.

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Nick's always called for that big old Vince will Flock

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>type of guy. I mean, I didn't go to m

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I t H when of your defensive line isn't necessarily

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a priority in your scheme. I think that rate its

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>head in our run game too. I'm just my question

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess is, do you think you can see a

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>philosophical change, yes, in building that defensive line, because that

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>really scares me. All right, thanks for the calls. I

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>do think you will see a change there, I think.

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>And from the priority standpoint, why why do you think

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is why? Well, we talked about this before the show.

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the reasons why, like he said,

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it helped it hurt the run game. It might have

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>hurt more than that too. I think that the philosophy

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to be, you've got really good linebackers, You've

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>got athletic linebackers, cover them up, protect them, get some

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>bigger guys up front, because the MALIEK. Collins of the world,

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and those guys that are undersized but they can get

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>up the field because Malie Collins was like he was

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>one of your best pass rushers even across the line.

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>That's great, but the draw all play happens, then all

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the guard and then center are coming

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>right out of your linebacker. Yeah, and you know, and

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>then one guy's got a neck injury. Yeah, that's the point. Like,

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and just for those that may not understand what you

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>mean when you say cover them up, your meaning use

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.439
<v Speaker 1>those guys as basically shields. They keep the offensive lineman

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>from getting to the second level. Now your linebackers are

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 1>free again being athletics as athletic as they are, They're

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:21.800
<v Speaker 1>free out of rome and get to the ball and

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>get to the ball quickly. And that's hopefully that hopefully

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>helps your defense be better. All it helps your blitz

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>as well, because you can, you know, you have to

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of contain to those guys in the center and

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>then you can maybe blitz from you know, from the

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>outside or whatever. But I mean, I do think that's

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a great question because I think it'll be the safety

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and defensive tackle have never been high priorities, and you know,

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it needs to be. I agree, and that

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated because, Okay, we just said they're not going

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to splash cash in free agency, but they will have

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to sign people they always do, and I think, I mean,

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>this is a good year to need defensive tackles. I mean,

0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, if Malie Collins might not be coming back,

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods, really, Tristan Hill is the only pure defensive

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>tackle with a contract. Don't make that face, Jim Jim

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 1>tom Sula's an accomplished coach. He might he might coach,

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>listen to what you have to say. Wow, it takes time,

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>dereks no time to play. It doesn't take time to play.

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, fine, fine, I don't like I hate it

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 1>when I'm the Sunshine pumper, so I'll just shut up. Uh.

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Michael Michael Brockers is out there, um from LSU, but

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean that doesn't matter. Marcella absolutely, Marcel Darius is

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 1>out there from Alabama. That matters. Jordan Phillips, who blew.

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean he'll probably be too expensive. He blew up

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo this year. But even there's even like less.

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, Vernon Butler, first round pick out of for Carolina.

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>He's a bust, but that's the type of guy the

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have shown interest in in the past. Um A,

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Sean Robinson, Jaron Reid, two more Obama guys, Danny Shelton

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>back out on the unrestricted market, like there are guys

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.760
<v Speaker 1>who could really help them, which you know, defensive tackle

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>looks like this huge need right now. But if they

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 1>prioritize it in free agency, maybe all of a sudden

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel pretty good about it by the time the

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:13.919
<v Speaker 1>draft rolls. Or don't look at somebody's free agent list

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and go, wait a second, we just picked up the

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 1>eighth best defensive tackle from this guy's list, but MALIEK.

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Collins is third on there, and why didn't we try

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to sign him? You know? But I don't know all

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the heightened weight of those guys. I think Shelton when

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:31.240
<v Speaker 1>he like the three Sheltons, knows yeah, yeah, he's a monster.

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>So I just think a Shaan Robinson's huge too, different,

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 1>different fit and what they're looking for. So yes, I

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>think the caller is right on there about I'm I'm

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>fascinating again. I'm a broken record. I'm sorry, But like

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 1>under in the Garret era, you're like, well, this is

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:48.439
<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do. These are the types of players

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna sign, and then they'll do this in the draft.

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's gonna change, Like they're gonna value different body

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.399
<v Speaker 1>types on the d line, they're gonna value different skill

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>sets in the secondary, and there will be new names,

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>new archetypes on this team that affect what they do

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>in the draft. And I will say this, I know

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 1>we I said the opposite a little earlier, at least

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it leaned toward the opposite, and saying that will as

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Jerry and Steven are going to be making those kinds

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of decisions. They haven't shown recently that they're willing necessarily

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>make a splash in free agency. The one thing you

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>have to throw in is there is a different coaching staff,

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and because there is a different coaching staff, and second

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>of all, because the Cowboys have so many free agents

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>that are gonna be in flux, this may be a

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>year that they decide, hey, we fuck, we're really close.

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>We have a new coaching staff. They want to revamp

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>what our team looks like. They want to revamp what

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 1>our defensive tackles look like, what our secondary looks like. Right,

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and if they go that route, they may decide they

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>want to take two or three of those those free

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>agent signings and make them really big, splashy guys like

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 1>guys that really can be cornerstone pieces to your defense.

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>So I would be very careful. I'm gonna be very

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>careful of assuming that I know what they're going to

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:56.919
<v Speaker 1>do in free agency until I see it. I still

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.959
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna probably lean back to what they've done

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 1>because the guys that are evaluating a talent are still

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the same, and obviously ownership is still the same, but

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I do think it's something to keep an eye on.

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I also think that unlike what you've seen in most years,

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely here. I mean because Garrett's been, you know, looking

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>at the Dallas Cowboys for ten years, been going into

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the draft. But your head coach this year was looking

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>at all thirty two teams. Maybe not every game, but

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>he was looking at a lot of games, and so

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 1>he has a better understanding of kind of you know,

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the head coach has a better understanding of what's out

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.320
<v Speaker 1>there than ever before. And that's not a knock at anyone.

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 1>He was just out of football looking at everybody in

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the league, wondering where his next stop was going to be.

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.319
<v Speaker 1>So when when they pull up tape of a guy,

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he should have a better understanding because he's been in

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the league for so long and was watching it last

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>year and may have some pet Cassidy got along the way.

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I've been looking at the Scala season. He's

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a free agent. I think we need to go target him.

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>May get a project of mine to identify all of

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the available free agents that have spent time around Mike

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy and Mike Nolan over the last like four years.

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably a worth which. Yeah, all right,

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take one more phone call really quickly before

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:10.439
<v Speaker 1>you in the show. This one's from Han and Tulsa. Han.

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>What up? Hi, thanks for ticking my texting my phone call. Absolutely.

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys have any concern about the offensive line

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and the kicking game? Offensive line, especially on the left

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:30.919
<v Speaker 1>guard position? It seemed like unsettled there? Hang our Thanks

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.760
<v Speaker 1>for the call. What do you guys to think Honor Williams?

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, where are you with him? Do you think

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 1>at this point he's a guy that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>really good player for the Cowboys? You think he's just

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a guy right now? You can hope to

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.239
<v Speaker 1>be him to be a bridge before you get another guy.

0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you need to make a move right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I really don't. I wish I had

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a better answer for you, But I mean, yeah, they

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>drafted him high, you know, but this staff didn't. Um.

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're you know, but who who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be better? I mean, is it Connor McGovern? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. I mean you have not absolutely seen anything

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>anything from McGovern, right, but he's a free agent though

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 1>do you do. Is that a position where you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and again getting a guard. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have to spend a lot of money to get

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran guard that can come in and be better

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>necessary right now, he may be a progress stopper if

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>you think that he can still get better that if

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<v Speaker 1>you still think Connor can get better, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>a much better player with time. Yeah, then you don't

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 1>necessarily want to stop his progress. But if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you're starting sour on that, maybe you do go the

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<v Speaker 1>route of getting a vetter. I think the jury was out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I would standing on the table

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<v Speaker 1>that Suphilo was better. I think it was. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what y'all think. I mean, I think it was

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of a wash. He wasn't clearly better, but I

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>do think he was a little bit better because he

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<v Speaker 1>was stronger, and I think that's something of need, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with Travis last year. I don't think Travis's strength was

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back is it shouldn't have been, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think the strength was a need. I don't know

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>if he was technically better, and he certainly isn't a

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>better athlete than or William. He's a really good athlete

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>for guard. So it's really it's tough to tell. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of moving parts there at the tackle,

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 1>at the offensive line position. I'm not super worried about

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it unless they I mean, we've talked about a million times, Like,

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 1>unless they want to move Connor Williams to tackle and

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>have him be your swing tackle. IM I would like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think would Actually, I think Connor suffers from be

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<v Speaker 1>playing on a line full of all pros and being

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<v Speaker 1>a top fifty pick, Like he's not amazing, But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not convinced that he's like this game in game out

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>liability that some people make him out to be and

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 1>then factor in the part where they have a top

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:42.399
<v Speaker 1>one hundred pick who we haven't seen, which not saying

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be great, but Connor McGovern should be available

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and fight that thing out. If he's awesome, then he

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 1>can have Connor Williams job. That's fine with me. But

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you've so you've got two highly touted talents who can

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:56.839
<v Speaker 1>fight for that job, and that's fine with me. Would

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you bring back Joe Looney? I would love to have

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Joe Looney act for his flex and just because I

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>love him. Yeah, I like him as my backup center.

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he's steady. I think he's a guy you

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>can rely on. And until I see Travis back to

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the point where he was before the syndrome, I want

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to have that kind of insurance in Orlando, Orlando, the

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know, you

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>know my point. I think last ye. I think last year,

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I think last year he was he was okay. I

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>think there were moments where you're like, man, I don't

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.359
<v Speaker 1>know if his strength is really back. You saw him,

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you saw things uncharacteristically happening to him that didn't happen before. Um,

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>And so I want to see now in the second year,

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:40.800
<v Speaker 1>is he even stronger? Is he back to being the

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Travis Frederick that we that we knew for many years

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>as one of the best centers in the league. Ryan

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Tannehill one comeback Player of the Year, Congratulations because it

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was big. That was a big comebacks. If you if

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you saw Travis in the locker room at the end

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty eighteen season, he would have been a

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>unanimous pick. He would have been I mean just playing

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>football again. Oh, he is playing football game. He's gonna

0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>make the Brow Bowl when he comes back, I mean

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it's awesome. Tannehill got injured a couple of

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>years ago, but like, did he come back from something

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 1>besides just being a bad player. Yeah, that's bs. And

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>by the way, he was a nature of the layer.

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>He played okay this year, I think ex seventy five

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>yards in the playoffs, Like Jimmy g came back from

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>an achilles. That's awesome. Not but guys do that every year.

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And obviously we're biased because we're in the bubble. But

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like Travis didn't look like he was gonna be able

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to walk, let alone play football. He had said himself

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that he was like, how much longer will I be

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>able to like hold my son? You know, his kid?

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>You know? Yeah, I mean he's like suffering from he

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>was suffering from something that's basically killing you from the inside.

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I now, you know, it's not necessarily an injury. He

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't you know. He probably got to the Pro Bowl

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 1>more on reputation than how good he was. But he

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 1>still played center in the NFL at a high level

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a year after all of that, and it's just stupid

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that nobody wanted to recognize that. So we all agree

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't the fight. He wasn't as good as he

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>was before. And that's the point where I want to

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 1>have Luney here as my protection. Until I see that.

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Once I see that, I'm good to say how much good?

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Here's another one? Until I see Connor McGovern show me

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that he can be some kind of swing guard, center

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>flex guy. Because if he can do that, then that's different.

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 1>But when is he gonna be able to show that?

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>But that also goes back to the point if if

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>if I think that Travis is back to being himself,

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that guard position gets a lot better. I

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>think Connor's a better player if those two guys beside

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 1>him are playing at the level that we thought that

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 1>they'd been playing him. Are y'all ready to have the

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.320
<v Speaker 1>conversation about how there will probably be a pretty good

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 1>left tackle there at pick seventeen, We're gonna We're gonna wait,

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna have that conversation at a later date,

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because I do want to talk overall about this offensive line,

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think there are a lot of different little

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 1>storylines that you can pick up on this offensive line

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that are worth discussing. We'll do that in a later

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.000
<v Speaker 1>week though, all right, appreciate you guys, Joins were back.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked about the kicking game too. Oh sorry, are

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you worried about the kicking game? That was the second part.

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear that, he did. There's a baller, stop it.

0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm signing signed Kai for Bath and bringing in at

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>least two guys for for the summer. I was nailing them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in. Okay, we got a kick him. Okay, that's

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>stopping first time. This is an extra point, Like I

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 1>don't care how scarred I don't care how scarred we

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>all are by the last two years. Like I'm not

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 1>drafting a kicker. I got too much other stuff to do.

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And you can find good kickers just sitting out, like

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta find them. Like there they exist, they exist.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we get to joining us. We're back next wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, no, no, we will be back the wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>after next week. Oh then I had to be in

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a secret location doing some retreating, So so we'll be

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 1>back to So we're not You don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>like a Monday show or give the people what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back week after Okay's day, and we build up

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<v Speaker 1>till then for Nick Even, Dave Helm and aber Garcia.

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