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Speaker 1: Episode number one four. Team. Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the start, we're talking Cowboys football here with you guys

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Speaker 1: going through a very interesting article that Nick wrote about

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing today, great, We're good. Yeah? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: guys enjoying offseason? Love it? Nick? No, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: a tough offseason, though this is tougher than usual. Well,

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Speaker 1: Should be in Miami. Two years ago the super was

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Speaker 1: covering the Cowboys who are about the battle. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like that's twenty sixteen. Yeah, I remember being like, this

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Speaker 1: And but again, if Pat Mahomes making forty two, I

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Speaker 1: can hear all of you doing that, but again, it's

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Speaker 1: At the start, we're talking about free agency. We're talking

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Speaker 1: me flip this back on you. I mean, is Dak

427
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Speaker 1: Prescott a top five quarterback in the NFL? Is that No?

428
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Speaker 1: But I will say this about what it boils down

429
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Speaker 1: to some degree in other positions. I think for quarterbacks

430
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Speaker 1: the difference is if you get a quarterback that you

431
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Speaker 1: think is good enough to get you to Super Bowl,

432
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Speaker 1: you have to hold on to him because they are

433
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Speaker 1: not plentiful. Wide receivers are plentiful, like there are a

434
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Speaker 1: lot of good wide receivers around the NFL. You get

435
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Speaker 1: a good when you put him in your system, and

436
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: you can probably have product productivity from your passing gig Like,

437
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same thing as the way

438
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: you have to evaluate a quarterback where you just can't

439
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: afford to go back to the bottom of the league

440
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: where you don't have an option at all. Yeah, that

441
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: makes sense, and that's I mean, I'd be fine signing Amari.

442
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 1: They have the cap to handle it. But if they

443
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Speaker 1: I would not hate the idea of franchising Amari, drafting

444
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: a receiver somewhat high, and grooming that guy to help

445
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: you move forward if you don't want to resign him later,

446
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: that's fine with me. You know, I think there's three

447
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: receivers that are definitely better or you know, Houston, m

448
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: what's his name, Hopkins, Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Julio Jones,

449
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: Fante Adams is in there, and Mike Evans, And then

450
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: when you get to that point, you know, in O'Dell,

451
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: I still think it is. I mean, I think there's

452
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on there for Cleveland, but

453
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: I think he's still talented wise. I mean, I think

454
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: he's as good as anybody, so, but that's when you

455
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: start making arguments. That's where I think the sixth seven,

456
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,239
Speaker 1: you know range, he's somewhere in that jumble behind like

457
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, those top guys. I think Hopkins and Julio

458
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: are in like a class all their own at this point,

459
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: but he's in that jumble behind everybody. You know, where

460
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: you can go, there's like a list of eight. I mean,

461
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's another one. Nobody you know still only like

462
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: twenty six or turning twenty six. I really wouldn't have

463
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: a problem paying him. And that's do you get better

464
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: letting him go at least? I mean, if again, if

465
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: you want to draft Jerry Judy and groom him, that's

466
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: a different conversation. But like you're not getting better without him,

467
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: And that's and I get your point Amber, Like, yes,

468
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: Dak does need help, but like so does everybody. By

469
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: the way, like Mahomes is encouraged, Mahomes is incredible, but

470
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: let's not act like there's not a boatload of skill

471
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Speaker 1: talent on that offense. I'm actually shocked that you guys

472
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Speaker 1: don't put Tyry Kill up there with those top wide receivers,

473
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Speaker 1: because I think he should be up there with those

474
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Speaker 1: top guys. I think you look at how he performs,

475
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: and it is a consistent thing pretty much throughout the year,

476
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: game in and game out, he is making place for

477
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Speaker 1: his team. His route changed the Super Bowl. Yeah, the

478
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: ability to turn that safety the way he did and

479
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: and create himself wide open. And he does that all

480
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: the time, and teams are paying attention to him, teams

481
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: are trying to take him out of the game, and

482
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: he still's fine. It's kind of like what Abe was

483
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: doing in Houston for a long time. I mean, I'm

484
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: sorry in Pittsburgh for a long time, where teams would

485
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: try to double him, would try to take him out

486
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: of games. His route running was just so good that

487
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: he could still get open. This is not fair, And honestly,

488
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: i'm a little I'm reluctant to say this about Michael

489
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: Thomas because he did it with Teddy Bridgewater and his

490
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: hands are like vacuum cleaners. He's nuts. But like I said,

491
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: it's not fair. But Tyreek Hill, I'm like, I want

492
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: to see you play with not the best quarterback ever,

493
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: Like I want to see you play with somebody that's

494
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: not a human cheat code. What I think a lot

495
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: of it is just his insane arm talent combined with

496
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: hills insane speed. Like that's a ridiculous combination to try

497
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: to defend. But I've seen Hopkins do that with Ryan

498
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick for years. I get it. I just the way

499
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: I look at that is you get a quarterback that

500
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Speaker 1: can just sling. It works right because Tyreek Hill is

501
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna make you look really good because

502
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: he can just get open. He's faster than everybody else,

503
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: and he runs good enough routes like you were saying,

504
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl runs good enough routs at if he

505
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: gets you, he's smart enough to know how to get

506
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: you off balance, and then if he gets a step,

507
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: he's gone. You can't catch him. Between all, I I mean,

508
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: Hills on a big contract, Watkins is on a big contract.

509
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey's arguably the best tight end in the league. And

510
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: then Nicole Hardman and they spent a top one hundred

511
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: pick on and he's got he can run too. Mahomes

512
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible, not taking any credit away from him,

513
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: but people act like he's the only thing on that offense.

514
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, no, there's there's a lot of talent

515
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: there for him to work with. Yeah, okay, well here's

516
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: another question. It's high from the whole talent subject. Are

517
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Speaker 1: any of you guys concerned at all about all these

518
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: foot injuries that and Mari went through last year? That

519
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: doesn't concern you for this year? Yeah, yeah, that wouldn't.

520
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: That wouldn't even my number one concerned. But yeah, now

521
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, and it is really Yeah, I don't know.

522
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Speaker 1: For some reason, I'm not as concerned about that. I

523
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: kind of thought of those as just kind of you know,

524
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of those fluke injuries that happened when you play football.

525
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: You know. I've never heard said he's dealt with that

526
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: for a long time, so it's like that. But I

527
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Speaker 1: don't know that I've heard anything that suggests that this

528
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: is a long term problem for him. I think when

529
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: you run as much as any receiver does, you're probably

530
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna have issues. And by the way, he wasn't missing

531
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: a lot of games like he played through a lot

532
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 1: of that. Now it was one game where there's one

533
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: game that that you know, he just he obviously did

534
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: had it that day. But but my point still is

535
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: I think that this is not what which the game?

536
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Which game you're talking about? Honestly? Was that the Jets? Yeah?

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00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: Well I don't yeah, I didn't know you're talking about

538
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: that game or the one where the Ego game where Yeah,

539
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean no, the Jets game is weirder to me.

540
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: The Jets game is the game that just seemed weird

541
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: to everybody because you were like, so, you were pretty

542
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: good or thought you could play all week, and you

543
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: thought you could play on game day, and then a

544
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: couple plays in without anything seemingly happening, you just kind

545
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: of like, I absolutely can't do it right. That's the

546
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: part that was wed next week. Yeah, that was a

547
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: little weird to everybody, to everybody, but again we don't

548
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: know what is Like his body may have just like

549
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: he may have just twisted it the wrong way coming

550
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: out of his you know, coming out of a break

551
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: or something. Who knows. I need you on the field

552
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: on fourth and eighth. I need you to be on

553
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: the field, like that's on the Eagle game, Like that's

554
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: the one in Cob too. I mean, let's don't put

555
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: you know, the Cob kind of got him down there.

556
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know is demeanor scares me. And

557
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't like to say that because it because it's

558
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: like everybody's built differently, and you're like, don't question my

559
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: toughness or my heart or any of that stuff. We

560
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: based off what you see. Because I'm a quiet guy,

561
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: I get that, but I just it scares me because

562
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: you don't know. If you don't see the fire, you

563
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: don't see it. I'm saying you have to be like

564
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, but you just don't see it. And it's

565
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: it's scary because that was a contract year when you're

566
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be really really hungry. Yeah, so I don't

567
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: I just don't know. It's it's so funny how you

568
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: swing from these different extremes like yeah, where it's like, man,

569
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: just settle down. Yeah, it's okay, and then on this

570
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: you're like, man, you gotta pick it up. Something we

571
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: gotta see. And I don't get me wrong, I'm not

572
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: saying I don't feel the same way, but but it

573
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: is kind of this this dueling thing where you're like,

574
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: give me a look. You want to have the kind

575
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: of the perfect guy, but you know, guys aren't perfect.

576
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: They aren't perfect, they are perfect. It is what it is. Right,

577
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: you watch the Pro Bowl, you know, and first play

578
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: the game, he like drops a pass or you're like,

579
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: first play of the game, but he didn't score a touchdown. Later, Um,

580
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Dave, you saw that he scored in the

581
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, didn't watch a second of it. That's

582
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: a little more going on that day. What was that day?

583
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh yeah, that was a weird day. Um,

584
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I sort of agree with

585
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: most of what you just said, but at the time,

586
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, guy's had a thousand yards

587
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: like five of his six seasons in the league. He's

588
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: pretty damn good player, he is. But the question is,

589
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: do you want the guy that's consistently gonna give you

590
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: ninety eighty nine one hundred yards a week or you

591
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: want the guy that's gonna give you some two hundreds

592
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: or some one fifties, but then some weeks he has thirty.

593
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: Like that's where you have. That's what you have to

594
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: make it. We've said recently that like that's almost everybody, really,

595
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: like that's almost every receiver, like at the top, very

596
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: very hard to be a week in week out, six

597
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: catches hundred yards. Guy one now I will say, though

598
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: it is a little even I will say this about

599
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: some of those other receivers, though there are times when

600
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: you see them they might not have a great game statistically,

601
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: but there'll be moments in that game, maybe it's towards

602
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: the end of the game, where they will make a

603
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: huge play for their team. And I think in a

604
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Mari's case, I do wonder if it seems like when

605
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: he disappears, he kind of just disappears. I would want

606
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: to see even in games where they may not they

607
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: may not think the matchup is favorable to really go

608
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: to him a lot, but I would think at some

609
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: point in that game they figure out how to get

610
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: a play that really can make a difference in the game.

611
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 1: And it just seems like it's either or for him.

612
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like there are those games where even

613
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: if he's not having a great statistical day, there's a

614
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: big moment that he provides where the team needs something

615
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: he can look to him. And when you look at

616
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: it in this different perspective, it's like, in those games

617
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: where he wasn't playing necessarily well, does his presence still

618
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: bring something to the field where it now creates more

619
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: opportunities for these other guys. It probably does. And that's

620
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: how I used to see the Marcus Lawrence. I'm like, Okay,

621
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: even at times in my mind, like even before this

622
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: past year, he's the one guy that, regardless of him

623
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: not making a specific play, his presence still creates opportunities

624
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: for these other guys next to him. So is he

625
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: that type of player when he's on the field. I

626
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I mean, I would think that

627
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: it probably helps. I would think defenses have to go

628
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: into games thinking as far the passing game is concerned,

629
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 1: the first priority probably is you got to stop Amari Cooper. Now,

630
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: the first priority really you got to stop to run.

631
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: But and that's the number one with the Cowboys, I

632
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: would think if you're playing them, but when you're talking

633
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: about the passing game, I would assume that the first

634
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: guy they got to be worried about is Amark Cooper,

635
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: and they're going to spend a little extra time trying

636
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: to take him out of games, which should create opportunities

637
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 1: for others. To go back to the overall question, I mean,

638
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Speaker 1: I think the world of Byron I think he's underrated.

639
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't get takeaways, but his covers. He's outstanding and

640
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Speaker 1: to do what he did this year without an offseason

641
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Speaker 1: really impressive. Robert Quinn fantastic, like played out so perfectly.

642
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Speaker 1: Like that's exactly the type of addition the Cowboys need

643
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: to be making, low cost, high upside saying it for years.

644
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to have him both back, and I think

645
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: it's realistic to think two of those three can be here.

646
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Speaker 1: Probably would. I think it would be Cooper and Quinn. Unfortunately,

647
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: point being is like I'm going to resign the guy

648
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: that touches the football the most often and really has

649
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: the biggest chance to directly impact games because we always

650
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean and like the best day of your life

651
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Speaker 1: as a defensive end is getting like three sacks out

652
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Speaker 1: of eighty snaps. You know, Like you just don't have

653
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: as many opportunities to impact the game as a quarterback

654
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: obviously or a wide receiver. So Cooper's got to be

655
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Speaker 1: priority number two. Ember, you agree with that, Cooper your

656
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Speaker 1: second priority? Yeah, Well, like I said, when he comes

657
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Speaker 1: up to the offense, third at a Quinn, MALIEK. Collins

658
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Speaker 1: and Byron Jones. Yeah, you can take whatever free agent

659
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Speaker 1: you want. Who's the third guy? If we all agree

660
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Speaker 1: that Cooper's a second. Who's the third guy? I'm sorry,

661
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Well it's to me it would be between

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Speaker 1: Quinn and Byron Jones. I just don't think they'll be

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Speaker 1: able to give Byron Jones the kind of money that

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Speaker 1: he probably deserves to keep him here. But he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that I don't think it's gonna be that easy

666
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Speaker 1: replacing him, and regardless of him not being able to

667
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: catch balls, I mean, the way he plays still and

668
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are still gonna need a lot of help

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Speaker 1: in the secondary as a whole. I mean, you got

670
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Speaker 1: Cheeto Jordan. When when are they next? Next? Next? Next year?

671
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Speaker 1: That's coming up too, So maybe you gotta draft a

672
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Speaker 1: guy and somebody so definitely got a draft a guy

673
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Speaker 1: this year. I think there's there's a lot of question

674
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Speaker 1: marks there in a lot of needs. You better do

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Speaker 1: one of those two, Quinn or Byron Jones, because if

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Speaker 1: you don't have Byron Jones, and then you need somebody

677
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: to definitely get after that quarterback. And if you don't

678
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Speaker 1: have Quinn, then you need someone to cover. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna get Byron Jones in

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Speaker 1: a perfect world. I don't think it's even close. I

681
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Speaker 1: would resign Byron, like if money was him a Quinn, Yeah,

682
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Speaker 1: if money was no object. He's twenty seven, he's super athletic.

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Speaker 1: But we're not in a perrect w I just I

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Speaker 1: don't based on the money factoring everything, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's realistic to think Byron Jones comes back here,

686
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Speaker 1: and unless they were to get a deal done with

687
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Speaker 1: one of these two in the next month and open

688
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Speaker 1: up the franchise tag. But guess what for Byron Jalen Smith.

689
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: We're thinking those guys, we're gonna get somewhere else. News flash.

690
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Speaker 1: We're wrong all the time. But like, but to your point, yeah,

691
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Speaker 1: that would that happened in August. That happened, like you

692
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: got months to sort through it and get you know,

693
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Speaker 1: get through the season. We're in crunch time right now

694
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Speaker 1: where there's there's five weeks until free agency opens, and

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Speaker 1: unless the Cowboys were willing to blow Byron Jones away,

696
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Speaker 1: he'd be insane to take a deal right now when

697
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: he's this close to hitting the open market where and

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Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of options. They can't franchise them,

699
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Speaker 1: probably because they got these other ones they got to do.

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Speaker 1: Probably can't transition. I mean, they've got these other ones.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the most earning potential he'll ever

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Speaker 1: have in his life, because somebody's going to be willing

703
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Speaker 1: to throw stupid money at him. And I just can't

704
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Speaker 1: imagine he'd be willing to take a deal before he

705
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Speaker 1: sees what that would look like. And I personally, I

706
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: think that's a mistake for a team. I think if

707
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: a team pays him top five cornerback money, I think

708
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: that's a mistake. I think he is a good cornerback.

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: I think we're our opinions are somewhat put on a

710
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: curve because based on all the cornerbacks you got here,

711
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Speaker 1: he's the best of what you got here. But I

712
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: think he's a good cornerback. I don't think he's a

713
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Speaker 1: great quarterback. I think, I mean, that's so hard to

714
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Speaker 1: say until you know where he goes. Like if the

715
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions pay him out just out the wazoo and

716
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: it's great, like yeah, then it probably looks like a mistake,

717
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: like is he going to put you over the top.

718
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Speaker 1: But like if you were to go to a team

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Speaker 1: like Philadelphia where they are, they mean they still they're

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Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, like, despite being disappointing, they have a

721
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Speaker 1: nice roster, like they're built to succeed. They got the quarterback,

722
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Speaker 1: they got all that stuff in place. They need to

723
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Speaker 1: draft a receiver. But I could imagine he goes there

724
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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh man, Philly's pass rush has been

725
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Speaker 1: on another level since they had this cornerback that can

726
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: stick to his coverage and blah blah, and all of

727
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: a sudden they look really smart. So I think it

728
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: just depends on where he goes. What I do wonder though,

729
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: is that we think the coverage has been pretty good.

730
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Speaker 1: I wonder if on a team where where opposing teams figure, hey,

731
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Speaker 1: we're going to test him a little bit more, because

732
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Speaker 1: I don't think he doesn't get tested a whole lot here.

733
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Speaker 1: I think there are better options to go to, obviously,

734
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Speaker 1: but I don't think he gets tested a whole lot here.

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Speaker 1: I want to see what he happened, What happened to

736
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Speaker 1: one of those teams where they say, hey, well we'll

737
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Speaker 1: test him a little bit more. I want to see

738
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Speaker 1: if he still can because he's not a guy that

739
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Speaker 1: necessarily he's gonna get his hands on the ball. So

740
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Speaker 1: what is he gonna what is he gonna do there?

741
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Speaker 1: Because we've seen it here, even in tight cover, sometimes

742
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: teams are able to complete some passes on him. I

743
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: wonder what will happen on a team like that. Yeah,

744
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: I would argue that he gets his hands on the ball,

745
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: he just doesn't ever catch it. He bats a lot

746
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: of passes down, he just doesn't catch him. I don't.

747
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Mike Nolan quote that he said,

748
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: the story he told about Troy Atman telling him a

749
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: long time ago. I'm not worried about guys that don't

750
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: pick the ball off. I mean I'm worried about Dan,

751
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not worried about I guy that bats the

752
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: ball down. And I thought immediately, well, that's not good

753
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: for Byron Jones. Um. I don't even know if he

754
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: leads the team in past breakups. I'm not sure. I

755
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: don't even know where he ranks in on the league,

756
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: because I think that's another I will kind of argue

757
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: with you a little bit on the on the standpoint

758
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: of you know, he doesn't have they don't have to

759
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: test him. I mean, you want to be able to

760
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: play the whole field, and so if it works to

761
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: test him, you would. I mean, I think the reason

762
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: why he doesn't get tested a lot because the guy's

763
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: guy covered. I mean, he's got it covered. Uh, he's

764
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: a good cover guy. So I just think there's thirty

765
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: two teams that value differently when it comes to cornerback

766
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: and coverage and the scheme that they play, and somebody's

767
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: going to have that cap value and be like, this

768
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: guy covers. That's good, that's better than what we've got.

769
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Speaker 1: But when you're going into it, let's say you're the

770
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Speaker 1: posing team. You're going into a week against the Cowboys,

771
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: and you're looking at how this defense plays. You're looking

772
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Speaker 1: at Cheeto, You're looking at you know, Jalen, You're looking

773
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: at you know, the safeties. Yeah, and you're saying, there

774
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: are a lot of ways exploit them in the passing

775
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: game that I don't really necessarily need to spend a

776
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of time over there. And to be honest with you,

777
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you don't go over there because they

778
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: still throw it by, right. Yeah, It's just that when

779
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: you look at it, you've got a lot more opportunities

780
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: in other places, So go to those other places, and

781
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: because they don't move around, you could take your receiver

782
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: and move him around and put him in some of

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00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: those favorable situations. That's my only point. And I don't

784
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Speaker 1: know if on other teams that will necessarily be the

785
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: case because of the construction of those other defens I'll

786
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787
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788
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: that's not the Niners and the Chiefs is trying to

789
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790
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791
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792
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796
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Speaker 1: free agency. We're gonna get some calls and some opinions

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Speaker 1: from you guys. Call us at eight eight eight, eight,

849
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Speaker 1: five five two two, nine to seven. We'll do that

850
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: to the end the show. We got a call from

851
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: Brian in Waco. Bryan, what up, Hey, guys, how's it

852
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: going today? Good? How are you good? Doing good? Doing good? Hey? Um,

853
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: So I have a little bit of a comment. So

854
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: I was watching the other day the sounds on the

855
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: timelines that y'all put out, which are all awesome. By

856
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: the way, I know all the fans really shout out

857
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: to Alex. Shout out Alex slowly. Yeah, Yeah, they're they're amazing. Um.

858
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: The one the last game against the Redskins, there's a

859
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: there's a particular part where I think Michael Gallat just

860
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: got his second touchdown, I want to say, and uh

861
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: so Marcus Lawrence comes over and talks to uh, you

862
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: know the wide receivers till you know, Mary, you know,

863
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: here's hers is up next to them. Mart He's like, no,

864
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm good. You know I'm good, and uh that awesome.

865
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Just his demeanor kind of scares me a little bit.

866
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you know, Nick on that a little bit.

867
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: So I was curious what you guys would think about

868
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: maybe uh uh like releasing him and maybe signing like

869
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: a Chris Jones from the kansasse ce Chiefs, uh their

870
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and then just you know, gain the safety

871
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: in the first round and maybe seeing about getting one

872
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: of those wide receivers and the second or third Just

873
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: kind of your thoughts on that maybe. All right, Thanks

874
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: for call. Somebody actually asked me about Chris Jones before

875
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: we went on the air on Twitter, and I mean, yeah,

876
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: he's like he's the biggest free agent on that Chief's team.

877
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: He's a hell of a player. He made a play

878
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: that changed the game. Um. I know the coaching staff

879
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: is different, but I think all the front office people

880
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: are the same. And I just don't think the Cowboys

881
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: are going to spend that kind of money on an

882
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: outside free agent. I don't think that has changed. Ultimately

883
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: goes back to Stephen Jerry right, And I don't know

884
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: that they that they've shown us in the last several

885
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: years that they're willing to go all in on free

886
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: agency like that. Yeah, I mean, you know, when you're

887
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: talking about Amar's contract or Dak or whatever. I mean,

888
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: Dak's obviously going to be here. But if you don't

889
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: do that with Amari, like the caller just said, I mean,

890
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: you know that that was my biggest problem about not

891
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: signing Deaz. I mean, they didn't do anything with the money.

892
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: You know they didn't. I mean, I guess they'll argue

893
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: that they did, you know, moving moving into the next

894
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: year and maybe signing some the guys that they signed,

895
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: But I don't know, you better do something with it

896
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna if you're not gonna have a

897
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: top wide receiver. And I think if you look at

898
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: that Jets game, I think they beat that team by

899
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: fourteen points. If Amar he's there, I think he was

900
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: a difference maker not being there, So you better replace

901
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: it somehow. Like we talked about this in the first segment, like,

902
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: if you don't want to give him a long term contract,

903
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue too intensely with you, but

904
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: he needs to be on this team in twenty twenty

905
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: if you're expecting to accomplish remotely close to what your

906
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: goals would be. I think because it sounds great. The

907
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: caller even said, you know, second third round again, I

908
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: mean that that's Michael Gallup and he's great, like that

909
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: is a successful draft pick. But was he ready to

910
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: be a starter on I mean he was, but was

911
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: he ready to be a starter Week one of twenty eighteen.

912
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: I think he caught one pass for six yards against

913
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: the Panthers that day, and even and you know, Odell

914
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: Beckham hit the ground running. Hopkins has been awesome from

915
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the from the jump like it's doable, but it probably there.

916
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: It's right, and even for a first round pick. I mean,

917
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, people give the Bears crap for draft picking

918
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: Trubisky over Pat Mahomes, like the Tennessee Titans drafted Corey Davis.

919
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: I believe in that draft if I remember, and like

920
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: he's had injury issues, it's just it's a crapshoot. I'm

921
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: not willing to put that kind of strain on a rookie,

922
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: even even if it's Julio Jones, it's a big risk.

923
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: You can even think about a guy like Deebo Samuel's

924
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: who everybody agrees is a guy that's going to be

925
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: a really great player in this league if he were

926
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: the only receiving or brought in to be the best

927
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: receiving threat that they had, and they were going to

928
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: be relying on him like the Cowboys relied on Amari Cooper.

929
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was ready for that in

930
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: his first speaking as his fantasy owner, it took him

931
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: half the season to come on. He was a non

932
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: factor from September to late October. So another example is

933
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: a later first round pick was DJ Moore for the

934
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. His first year, pretty good year, you know,

935
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: but it took a while to kind of get going.

936
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: And then this second year, I believe he was in

937
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Ye. So I mean it's not a

938
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: bad route, It's just that I'm I want the Cowboys

939
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: to draft a receiver and to do it with a

940
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: high pick this year because I think the receiver classes

941
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: that loaded and it could be beneficial. But at the

942
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: very least. I think Amari needs to be on attack.

943
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: But every year it's the same thing. It's like, oh,

944
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: let's good displire for development and for the future. He's like, Okay,

945
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the future, Like it needs to happen now.

946
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm ready for someone that can come in and do

947
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: it now. If that's the case, then signed, Sign the

948
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: guys you've got, you know, sign a Mari Cooper. He

949
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: can do it now at least twelve. And you can

950
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: make the case that a deep receiver class means that

951
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, somebody you like in the fourth or fifth round,

952
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, because it's so deep, absolutely, you know. And

953
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: that's the thing. What you know, they had a vision

954
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: of Tony for Tony Poller's I mean, he wasn't he

955
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: wasn't highly rated running back you know where they drafted him.

956
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: But they thought that what they had was Zeke, that

957
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: he would be a perfect compliment. So far, I mean,

958
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: he looks like he's That's the quality of this receiver class.

959
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: Could push a guy like Devin DuVernay into Day three

960
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: of the draft. I don't know that for sure, but

961
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: could Yeah, he's he's exclusively a slot guy. I mean

962
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: he's a little less versa. Where is the Verney gonna go?

963
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. We gotta figure you we gotta figure

964
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: that out. Um yeah, I mean there there's talent to

965
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: be had in the draft, for sure, but I just

966
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: you're not You're not a playoff contender without Amari Cooper

967
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: on your team in twenty twenty at least. All right,

968
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: let's get a call from Tim in Boston. Tim, what up? Hey, guys,

969
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: thanks take micall. I appreciate a quick question. Do you

970
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: think that this new regime coaching staff will actually decide

971
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: to spend some capital on a defensive line as far

972
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: as like one technique or the three technique. In the past,

973
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: like Dave and Brian went on the Draft show, they'd

974
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: always talk about this defensive lineman and like, oh yeah,

975
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: but he's more of a one technique handicapping your defensive line.

976
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: Nick's always called for that big old Vince will Flock

977
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: type of guy. I mean, I didn't go to m

978
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: I t H when of your defensive line isn't necessarily

979
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: a priority in your scheme. I think that rate its

980
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: head in our run game too. I'm just my question

981
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: I guess is, do you think you can see a

982
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: philosophical change, yes, in building that defensive line, because that

983
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: really scares me. All right, thanks for the calls. I

984
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: do think you will see a change there, I think.

985
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: And from the priority standpoint, why why do you think

986
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: is why? Well, we talked about this before the show.

987
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why, like he said,

988
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: it helped it hurt the run game. It might have

989
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: hurt more than that too. I think that the philosophy

990
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: is going to be, you've got really good linebackers, You've

991
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: got athletic linebackers, cover them up, protect them, get some

992
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: bigger guys up front, because the MALIEK. Collins of the world,

993
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: and those guys that are undersized but they can get

994
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: up the field because Malie Collins was like he was

995
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: one of your best pass rushers even across the line.

996
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: That's great, but the draw all play happens, then all

997
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the guard and then center are coming

998
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: right out of your linebacker. Yeah, and you know, and

999
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: then one guy's got a neck injury. Yeah, that's the point. Like,

1000
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: and just for those that may not understand what you

1001
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: mean when you say cover them up, your meaning use

1002
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: those guys as basically shields. They keep the offensive lineman

1003
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: from getting to the second level. Now your linebackers are

1004
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: free again being athletics as athletic as they are, They're

1005
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: free out of rome and get to the ball and

1006
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: get to the ball quickly. And that's hopefully that hopefully

1007
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: helps your defense be better. All it helps your blitz

1008
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: as well, because you can, you know, you have to

1009
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: kind of contain to those guys in the center and

1010
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: then you can maybe blitz from you know, from the

1011
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: outside or whatever. But I mean, I do think that's

1012
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: a great question because I think it'll be the safety

1013
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: and defensive tackle have never been high priorities, and you know,

1014
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be. I agree, and that

1015
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated because, Okay, we just said they're not going

1016
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: to splash cash in free agency, but they will have

1017
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: to sign people they always do, and I think, I mean,

1018
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: this is a good year to need defensive tackles. I mean,

1019
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, if Malie Collins might not be coming back,

1020
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods, really, Tristan Hill is the only pure defensive

1021
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: tackle with a contract. Don't make that face, Jim Jim

1022
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: tom Sula's an accomplished coach. He might he might coach,

1023
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: listen to what you have to say. Wow, it takes time,

1024
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: dereks no time to play. It doesn't take time to play.

1025
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: All right, fine, fine, I don't like I hate it

1026
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: when I'm the Sunshine pumper, so I'll just shut up. Uh.

1027
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Michael Michael Brockers is out there, um from LSU, but

1028
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't matter. Marcella absolutely, Marcel Darius is

1029
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: out there from Alabama. That matters. Jordan Phillips, who blew.

1030
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean he'll probably be too expensive. He blew up

1031
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: in Buffalo this year. But even there's even like less.

1032
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: You know, Vernon Butler, first round pick out of for Carolina.

1033
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: He's a bust, but that's the type of guy the

1034
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys have shown interest in in the past. Um A,

1035
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Sean Robinson, Jaron Reid, two more Obama guys, Danny Shelton

1036
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: back out on the unrestricted market, like there are guys

1037
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: who could really help them, which you know, defensive tackle

1038
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: looks like this huge need right now. But if they

1039
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: prioritize it in free agency, maybe all of a sudden

1040
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: you feel pretty good about it by the time the

1041
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: draft rolls. Or don't look at somebody's free agent list

1042
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: and go, wait a second, we just picked up the

1043
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: eighth best defensive tackle from this guy's list, but MALIEK.

1044
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: Collins is third on there, and why didn't we try

1045
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: to sign him? You know? But I don't know all

1046
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: the heightened weight of those guys. I think Shelton when

1047
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: he like the three Sheltons, knows yeah, yeah, he's a monster.

1048
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: So I just think a Shaan Robinson's huge too, different,

1049
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: different fit and what they're looking for. So yes, I

1050
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: think the caller is right on there about I'm I'm

1051
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: fascinating again. I'm a broken record. I'm sorry, But like

1052
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: under in the Garret era, you're like, well, this is

1053
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. These are the types of players

1054
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign, and then they'll do this in the draft.

1055
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: But it's gonna change, Like they're gonna value different body

1056
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: types on the d line, they're gonna value different skill

1057
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: sets in the secondary, and there will be new names,

1058
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: new archetypes on this team that affect what they do

1059
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: in the draft. And I will say this, I know

1060
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: we I said the opposite a little earlier, at least

1061
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: it leaned toward the opposite, and saying that will as

1062
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: Jerry and Steven are going to be making those kinds

1063
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: of decisions. They haven't shown recently that they're willing necessarily

1064
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: make a splash in free agency. The one thing you

1065
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: have to throw in is there is a different coaching staff,

1066
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: and because there is a different coaching staff, and second

1067
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: of all, because the Cowboys have so many free agents

1068
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: that are gonna be in flux, this may be a

1069
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: year that they decide, hey, we fuck, we're really close.

1070
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: We have a new coaching staff. They want to revamp

1071
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: what our team looks like. They want to revamp what

1072
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: our defensive tackles look like, what our secondary looks like. Right,

1073
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: and if they go that route, they may decide they

1074
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: want to take two or three of those those free

1075
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: agent signings and make them really big, splashy guys like

1076
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: guys that really can be cornerstone pieces to your defense.

1077
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: So I would be very careful. I'm gonna be very

1078
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: careful of assuming that I know what they're going to

1079
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: do in free agency until I see it. I still

1080
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 1: think they're gonna probably lean back to what they've done

1081
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: because the guys that are evaluating a talent are still

1082
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: the same, and obviously ownership is still the same, but

1083
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: I do think it's something to keep an eye on.

1084
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: I also think that unlike what you've seen in most years,

1085
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: definitely here. I mean because Garrett's been, you know, looking

1086
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys for ten years, been going into

1087
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: the draft. But your head coach this year was looking

1088
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: at all thirty two teams. Maybe not every game, but

1089
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: he was looking at a lot of games, and so

1090
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: he has a better understanding of kind of you know,

1091
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: the head coach has a better understanding of what's out

1092
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: there than ever before. And that's not a knock at anyone.

1093
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: He was just out of football looking at everybody in

1094
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: the league, wondering where his next stop was going to be.

1095
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: So when when they pull up tape of a guy,

1096
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: he should have a better understanding because he's been in

1097
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: the league for so long and was watching it last

1098
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: year and may have some pet Cassidy got along the way.

1099
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: He's like, I've been looking at the Scala season. He's

1100
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: a free agent. I think we need to go target him.

1101
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: May get a project of mine to identify all of

1102
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: the available free agents that have spent time around Mike

1103
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Mike Nolan over the last like four years.

1104
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a worth which. Yeah, all right,

1105
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna take one more phone call really quickly before

1106
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: you in the show. This one's from Han and Tulsa. Han.

1107
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: What up? Hi, thanks for ticking my texting my phone call. Absolutely.

1108
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any concern about the offensive line

1109
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: and the kicking game? Offensive line, especially on the left

1110
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: guard position? It seemed like unsettled there? Hang our Thanks

1111
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: for the call. What do you guys to think Honor Williams?

1112
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, where are you with him? Do you think

1113
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: at this point he's a guy that's gonna be a

1114
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: really good player for the Cowboys? You think he's just

1115
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy right now? You can hope to

1116
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: be him to be a bridge before you get another guy.

1117
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: Do you think you need to make a move right now?

1118
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't. I wish I had

1119
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: a better answer for you, But I mean, yeah, they

1120
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: drafted him high, you know, but this staff didn't. Um.

1121
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: I think that they're you know, but who who's going

1122
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: to be better? I mean, is it Connor McGovern? Maybe

1123
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: it's not. I mean you have not absolutely seen anything

1124
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: anything from McGovern, right, but he's a free agent though

1125
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: do you do. Is that a position where you need

1126
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: to go out and again getting a guard. You don't

1127
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: necessarily have to spend a lot of money to get

1128
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: a veteran guard that can come in and be better

1129
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: necessary right now, he may be a progress stopper if

1130
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: you think that he can still get better that if

1131
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: you still think Connor can get better, it can be

1132
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: a much better player with time. Yeah, then you don't

1133
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: necessarily want to stop his progress. But if you if

1134
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: you're starting sour on that, maybe you do go the

1135
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: route of getting a vetter. I think the jury was out.

1136
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I know I would standing on the table

1137
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: that Suphilo was better. I think it was. I don't

1138
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: know what y'all think. I mean, I think it was

1139
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of a wash. He wasn't clearly better, but I

1140
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: do think he was a little bit better because he

1141
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: was stronger, and I think that's something of need, especially

1142
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: with Travis last year. I don't think Travis's strength was

1143
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: all the way back is it shouldn't have been, so

1144
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: I think the strength was a need. I don't know

1145
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: if he was technically better, and he certainly isn't a

1146
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: better athlete than or William. He's a really good athlete

1147
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: for guard. So it's really it's tough to tell. There's

1148
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: just a lot of moving parts there at the tackle,

1149
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: at the offensive line position. I'm not super worried about

1150
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: it unless they I mean, we've talked about a million times, Like,

1151
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: unless they want to move Connor Williams to tackle and

1152
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: have him be your swing tackle. IM I would like that.

1153
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: I think would Actually, I think Connor suffers from be

1154
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: playing on a line full of all pros and being

1155
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: a top fifty pick, Like he's not amazing, But I'm

1156
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: not convinced that he's like this game in game out

1157
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: liability that some people make him out to be and

1158
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: then factor in the part where they have a top

1159
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: one hundred pick who we haven't seen, which not saying

1160
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great, but Connor McGovern should be available

1161
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: and fight that thing out. If he's awesome, then he

1162
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: can have Connor Williams job. That's fine with me. But

1163
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: you've so you've got two highly touted talents who can

1164
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: fight for that job, and that's fine with me. Would

1165
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: you bring back Joe Looney? I would love to have

1166
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: Joe Looney act for his flex and just because I

1167
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: love him. Yeah, I like him as my backup center.

1168
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: I think he's steady. I think he's a guy you

1169
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: can rely on. And until I see Travis back to

1170
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: the point where he was before the syndrome, I want

1171
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: to have that kind of insurance in Orlando, Orlando, the

1172
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know, you

1173
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: know my point. I think last ye. I think last year,

1174
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: I think last year he was he was okay. I

1175
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: think there were moments where you're like, man, I don't

1176
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: know if his strength is really back. You saw him,

1177
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: you saw things uncharacteristically happening to him that didn't happen before. Um,

1178
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: And so I want to see now in the second year,

1179
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: is he even stronger? Is he back to being the

1180
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick that we that we knew for many years

1181
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: as one of the best centers in the league. Ryan

1182
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: Tannehill one comeback Player of the Year, Congratulations because it

1183
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: was big. That was a big comebacks. If you if

1184
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: you saw Travis in the locker room at the end

1185
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: of the twenty eighteen season, he would have been a

1186
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: unanimous pick. He would have been I mean just playing

1187
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: football again. Oh, he is playing football game. He's gonna

1188
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: make the Brow Bowl when he comes back, I mean

1189
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's awesome. Tannehill got injured a couple of

1190
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: years ago, but like, did he come back from something

1191
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: besides just being a bad player. Yeah, that's bs. And

1192
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: by the way, he was a nature of the layer.

1193
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: He played okay this year, I think ex seventy five

1194
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: yards in the playoffs, Like Jimmy g came back from

1195
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: an achilles. That's awesome. Not but guys do that every year.

1196
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: And obviously we're biased because we're in the bubble. But

1197
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: like Travis didn't look like he was gonna be able

1198
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: to walk, let alone play football. He had said himself

1199
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: that he was like, how much longer will I be

1200
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: able to like hold my son? You know, his kid?

1201
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, I mean he's like suffering from he

1202
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: was suffering from something that's basically killing you from the inside.

1203
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I now, you know, it's not necessarily an injury. He

1204
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: wasn't you know. He probably got to the Pro Bowl

1205
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: more on reputation than how good he was. But he

1206
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: still played center in the NFL at a high level

1207
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: a year after all of that, and it's just stupid

1208
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: that nobody wanted to recognize that. So we all agree

1209
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't the fight. He wasn't as good as he

1210
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: was before. And that's the point where I want to

1211
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: have Luney here as my protection. Until I see that.

1212
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: Once I see that, I'm good to say how much good?

1213
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: Here's another one? Until I see Connor McGovern show me

1214
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: that he can be some kind of swing guard, center

1215
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: flex guy. Because if he can do that, then that's different.

1216
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: But when is he gonna be able to show that?

1217
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: But that also goes back to the point if if

1218
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: if I think that Travis is back to being himself,

1219
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: I think that guard position gets a lot better. I

1220
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: think Connor's a better player if those two guys beside

1221
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: him are playing at the level that we thought that

1222
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: they'd been playing him. Are y'all ready to have the

1223
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: conversation about how there will probably be a pretty good

1224
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: left tackle there at pick seventeen, We're gonna We're gonna wait,

1225
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have that conversation at a later date,

1226
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: because I do want to talk overall about this offensive line,

1227
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: because I think there are a lot of different little

1228
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: storylines that you can pick up on this offensive line

1229
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: that are worth discussing. We'll do that in a later

1230
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: week though, all right, appreciate you guys, Joins were back.

1231
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: He asked about the kicking game too. Oh sorry, are

1232
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: you worried about the kicking game? That was the second part.

1233
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that, he did. There's a baller, stop it.

1234
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm signing signed Kai for Bath and bringing in at

1235
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: least two guys for for the summer. I was nailing them.

1236
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm in. Okay, we got a kick him. Okay, that's

1237
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: stopping first time. This is an extra point, Like I

1238
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: don't care how scarred I don't care how scarred we

1239
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: all are by the last two years. Like I'm not

1240
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: drafting a kicker. I got too much other stuff to do.

1241
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: And you can find good kickers just sitting out, like

1242
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: you just gotta find them. Like there they exist, they exist.

1243
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: All right, we get to joining us. We're back next wednesday.

1244
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, we will be back the wednesday

1245
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: after next week. Oh then I had to be in

1246
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: a secret location doing some retreating, So so we'll be

1247
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: back to So we're not You don't want to do

1248
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: like a Monday show or give the people what they want.

1249
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: We're back week after Okay's day, and we build up

1250
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: till then for Nick Even, Dave Helm and aber Garcia.

1251
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm Derek Kigelson. This has been The Break live on

1252
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,960
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1253
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,840
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