WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Stares at Laser Eye Surgery

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickling. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works in love all things tech, and when

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<v Speaker 1>my producer is not being super snarky at me, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to go back and reflect on the past. So

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<v Speaker 1>I very rarely get to do it because Tar's got

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<v Speaker 1>some attitude on her. Let me tell you, but today

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for another classic episode of tech Stuff, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it's Friday. Today. We're gonna look at an episode

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<v Speaker 1>that originally published on October twenty four, two thousand eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Pallette and I talked about laser eye surgery. I

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<v Speaker 1>found it fascinating. Chris turned about eighteen shades of green

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<v Speaker 1>while we recorded this. It's been a long time since

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen Mr Pillette, but I remember how green he

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<v Speaker 1>turned when we talked about the process. I have had

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<v Speaker 1>laser eye surgery done, and now I'm essentially a super human.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see through walls and shoot lasers with my eyes. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll find out. Let's listen in on this

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<v Speaker 1>classic episode today. We're going to talk about laser eye surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had some people ask us about laser eye surgery

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<v Speaker 1>and what goes into it and exactly how are lasers

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<v Speaker 1>used in the process. But I think that's a record

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<v Speaker 1>for your use of that version of lasers. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to, uh, we're gonna kind of break

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<v Speaker 1>it down and talk about what goes into a laser

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<v Speaker 1>eye surgery procedure. And we should also mention I should

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<v Speaker 1>mention that I am very close to someone who has

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<v Speaker 1>had laser eye surgery, not right now, not like physically.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to my wife. My wife had laser

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<v Speaker 1>eye surgery, um, and she has been very happily moving

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<v Speaker 1>around without the need for glasses for several years now, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was very impressive to me because my wife

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<v Speaker 1>is not the the person who typically likes people, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, messing with eyeballs exactly. Yeah, She's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>high on our list of things to do today, but

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<v Speaker 1>she did it anyway. And we're going to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the process and what you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get laser eye surgery and what's actually

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<v Speaker 1>being done to you. Yeah. And I think probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best place to start is speaking of eyeballs with the

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<v Speaker 1>eyeball itself. Yeah, and why you might need laser eye

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<v Speaker 1>surgery in the first place. Right, Uh, to to to

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<v Speaker 1>understand this discussion, you have to have at least a

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<v Speaker 1>basic geography of the eyeball. So let's talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the eye. So, so your your eye. The

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<v Speaker 1>outer coating is this sort of tough outer coating called

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<v Speaker 1>the sclera, and that's sort of what keeps the eyeball

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<v Speaker 1>in its shape. It's it's kind of the the well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's the outer layer. And then part of

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<v Speaker 1>this outer layer, about I think one sixth of it

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<v Speaker 1>is the cornea, which is the clear outer layer that

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<v Speaker 1>goes or the part of your eye where light actually

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<v Speaker 1>passes through to get to you know, your eyeball. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the cornea is, uh, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>window in a way, or if you want to think

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<v Speaker 1>of it like a a tablet device or something. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the gorilla glass. It's on the outside that protects the

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<v Speaker 1>the the innards. And then behind the cornea, well, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, you've got this sort of a watery clear

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<v Speaker 1>liquid called the aqueous humor. Yeah, this goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the old humors. UH idea that dates back centuries where

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<v Speaker 1>we used to think that our bodies we were like

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<v Speaker 1>we're governed by a well, a small group of various

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<v Speaker 1>liquids called humors. We've somewhat developed beyond that at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>although I do think it's it's funny that even now

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<v Speaker 1>we are referring to this particular liquid as a humor. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so so the queens humor. It's it's this clear, clear

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<v Speaker 1>liquid that's behind the cornea. It's also in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the iris, and there's a little bit behind the iris

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So then that leads to the question, what

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<v Speaker 1>then is the iris. Well, that's the that's the color

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<v Speaker 1>part of your eye. So for example, my iris is

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<v Speaker 1>blue because it lacks a certain amount of pigmentation which

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<v Speaker 1>makes it a blue color. My wife's eyes are brown.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, this is the part of the other acts

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<v Speaker 1>is like an adjustable diaphragm around the pupil. So the

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<v Speaker 1>pupil is the that's the dark center of your iris.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the little opening actually that allows light to pass through, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that's the part that the UH enlarges

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<v Speaker 1>or gets smaller depending on the amount of light in

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<v Speaker 1>the room. Yeah, it's it's it's really an ingenious kind

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<v Speaker 1>of approach. Really, it's it's the same sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we do with cameras when we have an aperture,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the aperture of a camera. And you may

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<v Speaker 1>remember this if you us into our our podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>slow motion, we talked about the aperture quite a bit. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what allows you to adjust how much light comes

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<v Speaker 1>in through the camera's lens and hits the sensor. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of idea here. The iris is what will

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<v Speaker 1>expand or contract around the pupil and thus control the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of light that comes in. So, if you walk

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<v Speaker 1>into a dark room, then the it's going to the

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<v Speaker 1>the iris is going to allow more light to pass through.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna allow more of the pupil to be exposed

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<v Speaker 1>so that you get more light so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>maneuver through because you know you're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be able to see if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a really bright environment. In order to protect the eye,

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<v Speaker 1>the diaphragm is gonna close around the pupil to restrict

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of light that comes in. Right, And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>um there there's more than one um analog as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the eye and a camera. Sure, we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cameras not too long ago, where we we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the lens and how light passes through the lens

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<v Speaker 1>to the film on the other side, or or an

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<v Speaker 1>image sensor in the case of a digital camera. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye, you've got the retina, which is um

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, on the on the back side of

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<v Speaker 1>the eye, which is what records the image as as

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<v Speaker 1>the light comes through the pupil right you've got You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the pupil, that's the aperture. You also have a

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<v Speaker 1>lens right behind the pupil, So the lens, the lens

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<v Speaker 1>is what is focusing that light, directing that light so

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<v Speaker 1>that it it hits the focal point ideally, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the retina. And the retina contains certain kinds of cells,

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<v Speaker 1>rod cells and cone cells. These are light censoring light sensors. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>UM he sells sense the presence of light and UH

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<v Speaker 1>through a chemical reactions send that information to your brain

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<v Speaker 1>and then your brain says, hey, I recognize that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a puppy. Also, at the interesting point, if you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with us, UH, the image that you see when

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at something. When it hits your retina, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually inverted, just as it is in a camera. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the So this, this is the basic part of

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<v Speaker 1>the eye. Now, what happens when something is just not

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<v Speaker 1>quite right? For example, Uh, Chris, I don't know, are

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<v Speaker 1>you near sighted or far sighted? I am myopic. I

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<v Speaker 1>am also myopic. That means we are both near sighted,

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<v Speaker 1>and since we both have our our glasses off at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, we're both a little blurry. So myopia means

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<v Speaker 1>that the focal point is hitting. Uh, it's it's hitting

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<v Speaker 1>before it gets to your retina. So inside your eye

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<v Speaker 1>there's a you know, the light is being directed by

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<v Speaker 1>the lens to your retina. Uh, those the points of

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<v Speaker 1>light are all converging, right, and that point of convergence

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<v Speaker 1>is the focal point. Now, the focal point for those

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<v Speaker 1>with myopia is in front of the retina. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the retina just right. So that means that when

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<v Speaker 1>we start looking around things, things tend to be the

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<v Speaker 1>further way things are, the blurrier they tend to be. Yes. Um, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this can happen through various uh, just well irregularities. There

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<v Speaker 1>could be irregularities in the cornea that can cause this

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, or in the lens itself, or it could

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<v Speaker 1>be that the eyeball itself is elongated. Yes, so that

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, if the eyeball was not elongated, the

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<v Speaker 1>focal point would be right there on the retina where

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be and everything will be fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>the eyeball has been stretched. Nice sound effect. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily doesn't necessarily mean that someone's actually gone in

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<v Speaker 1>there and stretch your eyeball. It just means that that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the way it developed. Um now far sighting

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<v Speaker 1>this which is a hyperopia hyperopia, thank you, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready for that one. Ready, Yeah, hyperopia. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the focal point that's that's actually behind the retina, so

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<v Speaker 1>when the lights hitting hitting the retina, it's not converged

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<v Speaker 1>on that point like it should be. And U hyperopia,

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<v Speaker 1>If you're hyper hyperopic, would that be correct? Hyperopic? Then

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<v Speaker 1>that would mean that, you know, you would the the

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<v Speaker 1>the closer something is, the more out of focus it is,

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<v Speaker 1>the further away it is, the clearer it is. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to being myopic, I also have an astigmatism,

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<v Speaker 1>I too have an a stigmatism. I think he's just

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, doesn't want me to have one more

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<v Speaker 1>than he does. I only have one. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>to well know I'm saying, are you and have an astigmatism?

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<v Speaker 1>Me too? Me too? Just it happens to anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>and an a stigmatism. Um, you have a difference in

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of your cornea or the lens. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is it creates, in effect, two focal points

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<v Speaker 1>within your eye. Yeah. Um, And so basically that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of confuses the way the light is travel inside your eye.

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<v Speaker 1>And that, um, you can have, as we were both

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out just a moment ago, you can have, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a stigmatism on top of another eye condition. Yes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really an uneven curvature of the cornea or or lens.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's it. It can cause problems. So the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that the humans are clever and um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we figured out a long time ago that if

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<v Speaker 1>you use a lens of glass and it's curved just

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<v Speaker 1>the right way, the curvature of the glass can direct

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<v Speaker 1>light so that it corrects for these problems. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the amount of trial and error it took to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to figure this out. But to correct your

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<v Speaker 1>your vision you have to, you know, take into account

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<v Speaker 1>what the focal point is doing, uh, inside your eye.

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<v Speaker 1>So with it's a little bit different between myopia and

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<v Speaker 1>and hyperopia. But anyway, the curvature of the lens depends

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<v Speaker 1>upon the condition, right, you know, if it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a concave lens for one and a convex lens for

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<v Speaker 1>the other, And honestly, I can't remember the one from

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<v Speaker 1>the other. I guess I could stare at my glasses

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<v Speaker 1>long enough and try and figure it out. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>but the point being that that's what's going to direct

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<v Speaker 1>the light the right way into your eye so that

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<v Speaker 1>it corrects for whatever problem you already have. Chris and

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<v Speaker 1>I have more to say about laser eye surgery, but

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<v Speaker 1>first let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>What if we didn't want to wear glasses, what if

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted something where it wasn't you know this this

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<v Speaker 1>pair of frames sitting on our face. Well that's when

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<v Speaker 1>we started to come up, well, we could maybe make

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<v Speaker 1>a lens that could sit directly on the eye and

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<v Speaker 1>do the same sort of correction. It's gonna require a

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<v Speaker 1>more precise approach because it's going to be a much

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<v Speaker 1>smaller lens that by definition, I mean, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous lens shoved into your eye and expect any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of comfort. So, um, well that's where the contact

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<v Speaker 1>lens idea came from, where we started to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get you you apply these same kinds of thought to

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<v Speaker 1>a thin lens that could fit directly on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the eye. But then we thought, hey, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really just talking about lenses here. Even even the

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<v Speaker 1>cornea can act somewhat as a lens. The cornea on

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<v Speaker 1>your eye itself directs light. So what if we were

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<v Speaker 1>to reshape the cornia so that it corrected for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>problems we had as you know, as far as vision

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<v Speaker 1>problems are concerned. Uh, what if we just did that,

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<v Speaker 1>then we wouldn't have to wear contact lenses or glasses

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. And that's where the idea for corrective surgery

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. And um, and at its very most basic level,

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<v Speaker 1>what correct to what this laser eye surgery is doing

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<v Speaker 1>is it's altering the shape of the cornea so that

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<v Speaker 1>directs light in a way that corrects for whatever vision

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<v Speaker 1>problem you have. That's that's the basic you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get down to it, that's what laser eye surgery

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<v Speaker 1>is all about. So it's just it's that same principle

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<v Speaker 1>behind grinding the lens so that you can see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a pair of eyeglasses, but now it's applied directly

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<v Speaker 1>to our biology. It sadly does not mean you will

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<v Speaker 1>actually end up with laser shooting out of your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>well at least not for most people. No, I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a pretty rare side effect. So, yeah, where

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<v Speaker 1>would you like to start with laser eye surgery. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to talk about sort of the process

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go through before you get laser eye

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<v Speaker 1>surgery done, and then we'll get into what is actually

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<v Speaker 1>going on in a a laser eye surgery session. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because frankly, it's it's reminds me of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>life events. You know. The actual event itself doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>take all that long. Laser eye surgery only takes a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes. Yeah, it can take less than half an

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<v Speaker 1>hour total um. But there is quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>preparation that needs that you need to go through beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>To make sure that everything goes smoothly, um and preferably

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<v Speaker 1>not panicky, which is the reason that I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>it done. Yeah, So the first thing you have to

0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.920
<v Speaker 1>do is you have to go through and we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a reputable laser eye surgeon. This is a good

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<v Speaker 1>time for us to point out there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different facilities out there that offer laser eye surgery services.

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<v Speaker 1>Do your research. Yes, that's a great idea, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know for a fact that there are there's a few

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta that have a reputation for being less than honesty,

0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Like they'll the what the they do is they'll offer

0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.280
<v Speaker 1>this amazing sounding deal and of course we all know

0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the phrase it sounds too good to be true. It

0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.880
<v Speaker 1>was probably on the internet. Um, and the deal the

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<v Speaker 1>deal would be something like two D and I, which

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<v Speaker 1>is about a tenth of what some eye surgeries cost,

0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you're thinking, Wow, that's amazing, And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's got an official sounding name and that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be great. And then if you actually start doing

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<v Speaker 1>some research, you'll see that there's often a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>bait and switch involved where you'll go in and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do this initial I exam, and then they'll say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>in your case, because you have this particular you know,

0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.600
<v Speaker 1>condition or whatever, it's actually gonna be closer to hundred

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<v Speaker 1>per eye or and and just that alone is a

0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, first of all, that's kind of a shady

0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.680
<v Speaker 1>business practice. But beyond that, you don't want you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know how far their ethics extend into, say,

0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.320
<v Speaker 1>not being a good doctor. So so in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>do your research quick alert. So assuming that the the

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<v Speaker 1>facility has got a good reputation, uh, you go in,

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<v Speaker 1>you would get a very thorough eye exam, probably more

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<v Speaker 1>thorough in fact, I would are definitely more thorough than

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<v Speaker 1>you would get going to just get a pair of

0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.320
<v Speaker 1>glasses or contact lenses. I'm sure yes, because they have

0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.720
<v Speaker 1>to be they have to be very careful. Um, if

0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you're going to go for for lasic, for example, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes have to fall within a certain set of parameters,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can treat myopia, hyperopia and a stigmatism, but

0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.680
<v Speaker 1>it has to be within a certain range. Now, of

0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.680
<v Speaker 1>course that's measured in diopters um. That's that's kind of

0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the degrees of prescription. So you know, if you hear

0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.440
<v Speaker 1>someone say, oh, I've got minus three in this I

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<v Speaker 1>and minus two point seven five in that I the myopic. Yeah,

0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.840
<v Speaker 1>their myopic. Yeah that a negative number means myopia, a

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<v Speaker 1>positive number is hyperopia. And then um, a stigmatism can

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<v Speaker 1>go either way. Yeah. Now, we we do have a

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<v Speaker 1>great article on how lasic works on the website. UM

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<v Speaker 1>and according to the research in there, UM, myopia treatable

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<v Speaker 1>with lasic can be from negative zero point seven five

0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.720
<v Speaker 1>to negative ten, which is that's a big, big range.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I should also add that depending on which

0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:21.959
<v Speaker 1>doctor you go to, they may tell you that if

0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.359
<v Speaker 1>your eyesight falls within you know, a certain range, like saying,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say the negative point seven five to say negative

0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.280
<v Speaker 1>one point five, they might say, you know what, the

0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the experience you're going to have, the the new vision

0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.720
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have, may not be so dramatic as

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<v Speaker 1>to warrant laser eye surgery. Again, a reputable UH clinic

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<v Speaker 1>is going to tell you if the the result is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be truly noticeable or not. For some people

0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it may not be. I for at least years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when my wife could have done I was right there

0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.080
<v Speaker 1>on the the border like like you know, I could

0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.920
<v Speaker 1>have gone it done, but it may not have been

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<v Speaker 1>that dramatic. And when you're talking about that kind of expense,

0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.159
<v Speaker 1>really do you want to go in for that. My wife, however,

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<v Speaker 1>she had gotten to the point of vision where they

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<v Speaker 1>no longer use the eye chart. They would say how

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<v Speaker 1>many fingers am I holding up? So she was an

0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:19.360
<v Speaker 1>ideal candidate. Well, you have to hold some up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Like whoa, you need some surgery. Hyperopia that they can

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<v Speaker 1>treat with lace ranges from plus zero point seven five

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<v Speaker 1>to plus four and then they can treat a stigmatism

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<v Speaker 1>for plus or minus zero point seven five to plus

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<v Speaker 1>or minus four um. So that's a pretty a pretty

0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.520
<v Speaker 1>decent range of vision that they can they can correct. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They also look at the cornea thickness. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>be five microns or greater um. That's we'll explain why

0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the cornea has to be at least that thick coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's going to be the the squiggly squirmy part

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<v Speaker 1>where we're both like, okay, so here's what happens next.

0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I'll be going out for some water, Chris, Chris might

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<v Speaker 1>might go bye bye for about for about five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that thud? Yeah? But there are other types of

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<v Speaker 1>laser eye surgery that you can pursue if your cornea

0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.840
<v Speaker 1>is not of that thickness, if it's if it's thinner

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<v Speaker 1>than that, there are other types of laser eye surgery

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.679
<v Speaker 1>you can look into, so to speak, right, Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then your pupil uh should be no more than six

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<v Speaker 1>point five millimeters in diameter. Um, although you know there

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.879
<v Speaker 1>are advances now that allow you to work with up

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<v Speaker 1>to eight point five um. Also, so if you' have

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<v Speaker 1>been Diesel from that that movie where he's got those

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.520
<v Speaker 1>huge corneas, the huge pupils, that just wouldn't work. Lady

0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Gaga from that that one video, Yeah, there you go. Yeah,

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 1>those those folks, I'm sorry, or practically any Disney character,

0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.359
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, have you seen Tangled. That girl's eyes

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.439
<v Speaker 1>are huge. Yeah, Sailor Moon is not gonna have it

0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 1>done either. Um. So yeah. And also if you're pregnant,

0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.320
<v Speaker 1>have heart problems, severe heart problems anyway, Um, if you're

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>taking drugs such as medicine for migraines or acne, um,

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you have a condition called kara to countess, I'm hoping

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm pronouncing it right. I didn't check the pronunciation, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thinning of the cornea condition. And UM, actually

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<v Speaker 1>I might be Uh, I might not be eligible either

0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:28.320
<v Speaker 1>because certain conditions like autoimmune diseases one of which I have, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>vascular disease, different kinds of eye diseases, and diabetes, all

0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 1>these things might prevent you from going through with a

0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 1>lasic procedure. UM. So these are things that the doctor

0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to have to talk to you about. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would encourage history. Yeah, you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest too, because you know, even though you may not

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.360
<v Speaker 1>want to wear glasses. Uh, you know, this is serious

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>business and you could end up with results that you

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 1>are not happy with. It can be complications as well.

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean even yes, you know, it could be that

0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.920
<v Speaker 1>everything goes well, but uh, you have some complications during

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the healing process. And if your medical history means that

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you can't have certain kinds of drugs to to help

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that healing process along, that could be an even bigger

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 1>problem down the road. So yeah, it's very important. And

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.000
<v Speaker 1>then the actual exam, you're going to be looking through

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<v Speaker 1>lots of different devices that are going to be measuring

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>how your eyes are receiving light. And there's actually technically

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.320
<v Speaker 1>mapping out your eyes, the inside of your eyes. Um,

0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a thing called a corneal topographer. Yes, that's where

0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:35.680
<v Speaker 1>they type on your eyes, right, that's a typographer topographer.

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>It actually maps the cornea, so it's it's looking at

0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the actual shape and thickness of the cornea. Um, and

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it's to uh to really determine exactly how the light

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.720
<v Speaker 1>is behaving once it hits that part of your eye. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also the pupilometer, which is another device that's looking

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>specifically at your pupil I mean, there's not a big

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<v Speaker 1>surprise there, right, you have a student in your eye,

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:06.160
<v Speaker 1>all yeah, and then the their software, very powerful software,

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>but working behind the scenes that's mapping out your eye

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>so that the surgeon is going to know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>sort of of adjustments they're going to need to make

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to your cornea in order for it to um to

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.359
<v Speaker 1>direct light the way you need it to be so

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to wear glasses or contact lenses anymore.

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's pretty complex stuff. I mean, it's um,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fascinating to see. And also a laser eye surgery

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>procedure often requires two people A surgeon and at well

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the patient to people to actually to do the

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>procedure the surgeon, and then there's usually a an operator

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<v Speaker 1>who's working on one of the laser machines. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to interrupt while we're strolling down memory lane, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for us to take another quick break to think

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsor. Now we've talked about the process where let's

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.680
<v Speaker 1>say that you've gone through you've had your eye exam,

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you've done your medical history, and they've determined your what

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.880
<v Speaker 1>is called an ideal candidate. Now, that does not mean

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>you are the perfect person to have had laser eye surgery.

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>It just means that you fit those parameters that um

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't have anything outlying any of those parameters that

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>would that would cause concern. It appears that it will

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:32.680
<v Speaker 1>work out. Yes, Uh, now is the time where you

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.439
<v Speaker 1>start to um to to actually go through the surgery itself.

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think we can walk through the

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 1>laser process because that's still fairly common. I mean, that's

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that's actually probably one of the most common forms of

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>laser eye surgery out there. But we'll also talk about

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>how the other kinds are a little different. So um so,

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>first when you arrive to get your laser eye surgery done,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that happens fairly frequently is that they offer

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you something to calm your nerves. Yes, because it turns

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>out when a lot of people, when they're thinking they're

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be laying down on the table with someone

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>shooting laser beams into their eyes, they get a little anxious.

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine why. Actually, that's not the part that

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>makes me anxious. But we'll get into at UM. So

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the part immediately before the laser gets

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.640
<v Speaker 1>shut to your eye. That would be the part. Yeah,

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the part where it gets I'll score me. Yeah,

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>so and yeah. I mean basically, they're going to set

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>up an appointment when you do your your pre op work.

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they actually would take you back

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>immediately and go all right, you look good, let's go. No, No,

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 1>it's usually it's usually a day or two between. Speaking

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>from my wife's experience, she went in and had the

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<v Speaker 1>um the work, that the pre up work done, and

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>then it was a couple of days later after they

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>had a chance to really look at the data and

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>they arranged for the time. And you also have to

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>go there with someone else to drive you home. Yes,

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>because you will not be able to use your eyeballs.

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for that, Yeah, exactly, You're you're going to have

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>some limited eyeball use immediately afterwards. You can't put your

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>weight on them exactly. Um, use some eye crutches. So

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I crutches? Um are those apple products? Um? No, it's

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>not the lower case I E I see. Um. So

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the next thing they're gonna do, once you're you're sure

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to go through this, of course, they also

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>make you sign a waiver saying that you understand that

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>there are things going on where they're gonna shoot lasers

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:29.239
<v Speaker 1>in your eyeballs and uh, there are risks involved with that,

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and part of this depends a lot on your cooperation,

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 1>like and and not running from the office screaming. Um again,

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just imagining what would happened with me. They assuming

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>your your nerves of steel are holding, are holding, they

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 1>will go ahead and put some topical anesthetic in your eyes. Yes,

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>so this is to numb your eyes because they will

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>need to touch them and uh. And once you're once

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that started to take effect, you're lead into the upberating

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>room where you laid down on a table. It's usually

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a padded table, and they position you so that you're

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be under the machine that goes ping and

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>uh and and then they have to h while they

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>have to secure your eyelids so that you're not going

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.719
<v Speaker 1>to be blinking, yes, because you cannot blink, so they

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>may be using usually a combination of things. There's usually

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>some sort of tape that's safe to put on your

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>your eyelids to keep your eyes open. There's also a

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 1>device that will sit on top of the bottom part

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and top part of your eyelids to keep those them stationary. Um.

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>This looks a lot like the device that was used

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in a famous documentary called a clockwork orange. Um. Yeah,

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a little freaky if you're looking at someone who's

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>getting this done. The eyelids speculum. Yeah. Yeah. It's to

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>hold those eyelids in place because of course, if you

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>blink when the laser is going, it's gonna totally mess

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>up the procedure. So they have to they have to

0:26:55.800 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>uh stabilize and and keep your eyelids from moving. Um.

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>And they also put down a ring around your eye

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>that that stops you from being able to move your

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>eye around. You're you're looking directly up. Are directly straight

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>straight ahead is the best way of putting it. Not

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>up as in your eyes are turned up, but looking straightforward.

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just because you're laying on your back. It just

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>happens to be up. And then as they the next

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>step is the squiggly part. Are you ready? Okay, So

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>they pull out the microcarra tome Yes, see they have to.

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna put some marks on your cornea to identify

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>where it is green, where they're where they're going to

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>use the microcarra tome um. Basically, when you're dealing with

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>something as sensitive as vision, and you know, the professionals

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>want to do a good job, they're going to want

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to be as accurate as possible, so they're going to

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>mark your cornea to make sure that they use the

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>microcarratone right, I don't even want to talk about it. Microcart.

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a surgical instrument, okay. It's a blade, a very

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.959
<v Speaker 1>thin blade, and this blade is used to cut a

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 1>flap in your cornia, which is then pulled back so

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>that the laser gets shaped corny. This is this is

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>this is entertaining and painful to watch. This is the

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>part the grosses me out. I'm sorry. Okay, So yeah,

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 1>so there's actually this and this is lazing. There are

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>other versions of laser eye surgery that do not use this,

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and some of them don't even use a microcarratone blade.

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>They have a special laser that will cut this flap.

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>But an end lazing eye surgery, there is a flap

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that's cut and pulled back so that the laser can

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>start to shape the cornia without that outer layer in place.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>And UM. And so at this point, the laser, which

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>is um called an well it's an ex semer or

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>x simer E x c I M E R I

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>actually did not look up the pronunciation. But this is

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the laser that does the actual shaping. It starts to

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>vaporize parts of the cornea. And what's doing is it's

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>shooting ultraviolet UH blasts and the lasers in the ultraviolet

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>lank range, which means you can't see it right, it's

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>outside the range of human sight. UM. And what it's

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>doing is it's exciting UH the molecules in the cornea

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to the point where the molecular bonds breakdown. So it's

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>actually that's what I talk about when vaporizing. It's not

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>heating the eyeball up, especially a cool laser. I expect

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you to break down. And when I mean cool laser,

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that it's like super awesome, although it is.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it doesn't heat up the tissue. Now, remember

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>earlier I mentioned that your cornea has to be five

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>microns are greater when they start this procedure, and that's

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>because when they're done using this laser, there has to

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>be between two three microns of thickness once they're done. Yeah,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so there has to be enough for them to leave

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the proper amount once they're finished, otherwise you can't do this.

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>So now, now using this laser to vaporize these molecular

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>bonds and to reshape your cornea, that's essentially the same

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>thing on on a grand concept level as grinding a

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>glasses lens. So that's gonna been light the way way.

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the same things, just we're using lasers and your

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>actual eye to do it, which is pretty phenomenally awesome.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>It's also kind of scary um not at the end

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>of it. After it might take I don't know seventeen

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to twenty seconds to do this. Chris's be okay, okay, yeah,

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>per i. Um. They then replace the flap back down

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>on your eye and it heals. I mean, it sets

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>down in place and is is healing as soon as

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it touches back down. That is one of the very

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>cool things I think about that. Um. They the doctor

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>will also probably put a little antibiotic on the flap

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>just to make sure that there are no bacteria getting

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah, but but it maybe it starts to heal,

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty phenomenal. Um. The the whole process only takes,

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like I said, about twenty seconds per eye. Uh. And uh,

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>usually when you're down there, you'll hear people talk about

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>how the doctor told him to look at, say like

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a blinking red light. That red light is not the laser.

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>That's just a light that let's Yeah, you're supposed to

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>focus on that while this ultra violet laser is blasting

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>your your cornea way. Um. And then once the flap

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>comes down, you're usually you're given several different kinds of

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>eye drops before before you leave. Uh, there's a moisturizing

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>eye drop because after you get this process done, your

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>eyes are gonna have a little bit of difficulty, uh,

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>generating the right kind of moisture to keep your eyes comfortable,

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna have to actually add eye drops in

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>on a pre regular basis. In fact, the first couple

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of days, it's it's like every hour you've got to

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>add eye drops, and then as the time goes on,

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to use them less and less frequently. And

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>my wife at this point rarely ever uses eye drops.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>But for the first year she was using them on

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>on a fairly regular basis, although that that schedule changed

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>over time, like after the first three months, it didn't

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>need to be as frequent. Um. And now it's it's

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>rare when she needs them, but occasionally she does. Uh.

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And then you might also have antibotic eye drops that

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you might have to add every now and then. And

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>some places apparently put give you a kind of gel

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that you put on the inside of your lower eyelids

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>so that when you're asleep, it keeps your eye moisturized

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>while you're sleeping. My wife, I don't remember her getting that. UM.

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I should have asked her before I left the house

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>this morning, but I do not recall her getting that

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. I do remember the other kinds of

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>eye drops though. And then they of course schedule, as

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of surgical procedures. UM. They also

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>schedule regular appointments, even even as as soon as the

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>next day, to make sure okay, UM. And then gradually

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>as time goes on, uh, you know, they check less frequently.

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, there'll be a year check up, but you

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>know it's one day, and then they'll check the next

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>week and the next month, UM an increasing increasingly longer periods,

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>just to make sure everything is healing the way it's

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>supposed to. Just to make sure that there are um,

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that your eyes are doing what they're supposed to do,

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're not suffering any ill effects from the surgery.

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Because in the case of I mean there there are

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>times when the flap can get a wrinkle in it. Yeah,

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if we're going to get into that. Yeah,

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that can have things like that that can cause a

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit of blurry vision and may require a second

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>surgical procedure in order to get it straightened out, so

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you speak. UM. Also, you know, there's a possibility that

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>they may remove too little or too much of the

0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>cornea UM. So they have to be. Yeah, they have

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to be. That's why they that's why they're doing that

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>whole long pre ops sections, so that they can determine

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that as precisely as possible to to reduce that risk

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>as much as they can. And of course, again this

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>also depends a lot on the patient. You have to

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>be able to lay there and be still while your

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>eye is being held open and lasers are being shot

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>into it after someone's kind of flapping it. It's a

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>little it's a bit of a challenge for some of us.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Um let's talk really quickly about some of the other

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>kinds of laser ice surgery besides lazing. The one of

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the the precursors to lazing, and it's still in use

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of places is PRK laser ice surgery

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>or photo refractive care TECTO me. Oh, I didn't know

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be able to say that. In this one,

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>they actually scrape away the outermost layer of the cornea

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>with the laser and then reshape the tissue on the

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>underlying surface of the cornea um and then they have

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you have to allow the the protective layer

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that was scraped off to grow back, so there's actually

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a longer healing period with PRK than with laze. They

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 1>can use that process to uh to work on near

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>sidedness and a stigmatism at the same time, however, which

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>is nice. Yep. And uh. Then there's lazac with an E.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>The lasic we're talking about is with an eye, but

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>lazac is a slightly more advanced version of PRK that

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>uses um alcohol and solution to soften and then remove

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the epithelium, which is that protective layer, that almost layer

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of the cornium. Yeah, lasac is a laser epithelial caratatamliusis Yeah,

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I didn't mangle that terribly yep. And then

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>there's epilasac, the modified version of that that uses a

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 1>separator so that the because then in the traditional laze

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you're actually removing the epithelium entirely, and epilasic you're creating

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>a separator so that you preserve that epithelium and then

0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>replace it on the ice. So it's like you take

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the cover off, fiddle around a bit, and put the

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>cover back on. It's probably a bet the eye surgeons

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 1>out there just love me for saying that um there's

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>l t K or laser thermo keratoplasty. Uh No. It's

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>used mainly for far sightedness and a stigmatism. And in

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>this case they actually are using heat. They're using the

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>heat of a laser beam to shrink and reshape the

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>cornea rather than removing it, so they're actually reshaping it.

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>They're pushing the stuff around as opposed to cutting it away. Um.

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's supposedly a much faster healing process than most

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>other kinds of corrective surgery, and it's generally considered to

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>be less invasive, so it's uh, that's an interesting approach.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>There's also there's a custom view lazic, conventional intra lazic,

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>custom view intra lazic. These are all variations on the

0:36:56.200 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>basic lazic approach basic lazing, and there are of course

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>complications with some of these. We mentioned some before. I've

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I've known people to undergo lasic and complain of some

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>problems with night vision where they see halos. There's a

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of that where everyone looks like master Chief No. Um. Basically,

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>when you look at a light source, it looks like

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it has shimmering circle around it. Yeah. Yeah, especially things

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>for like if you're driving at night and you'll know

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>no halos around headlights things like that, or you're sensitive

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>to bright light. Yeah, yeah, you're light sensitivity. Especially for

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>the first few days, it's probably gonna be a little, uh,

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a little rough. But for some people it just it

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>stays that way. So like my wife, she wears sunglasses

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot more frequently than she used to. And uh

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for for some people too, I've heard that in some cases, uh,

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>it is possible for your eyes basically to slowly regress

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to where they were before. Um. I don't know exactly

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>why that is, you know, I have read reports that

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that it happens. Um. But and you know, some people

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>who have and you know, enjoyed the benefits of the

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>surgery for years, and then there are others who gradually

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>returned to uh, to the way they were before. I'm

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>sure that it probably since since part of the corney

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>has been removed, I would imagine that it's probably not

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:19.439
<v Speaker 1>as uh drastic a change so it was. But I've

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I've read that that that can happen. I would imagine

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>if you have some sort of condition that continues to

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<v Speaker 1>change the shape of your eyeball, that would be that

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