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Speaker 1: his headset and that means it's time for another edition
Speaker 1: of Mick Shots. Bill Jones with Everson Walls and Everson
Speaker 1: We've got football players on the football field outside. They
Speaker 1: look good, man, they look good. They all padded up
Speaker 1: and everything, aren't they A right? Well, they're not well
Speaker 1: there to me, that's padded for them. I mean even
Speaker 1: their pads on pads. Producer Supreme, Chris Beam to the rest.
Speaker 1: You've got you've got field goal kicker pads. That's yeah.
Speaker 1: So then there might have. You might have just segued
Speaker 1: into one of the stories of the week here at
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, which we will get into unless
Speaker 1: you want to talk in sixty two first, yes, you
Speaker 1: want to talk sixty two. First, was it fun? It
Speaker 1: was all right? It was all right. Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: sent you the video I had was sitting in the presspot,
Speaker 1: was sitting on the moon. Yes, you caught my subcasm. Right,
Speaker 1: guys used to sit in those suits of that was
Speaker 1: they have a new ballpark, Mickey, they're a new ballpark.
Speaker 1: They used to sit in left field the Sweet section.
Speaker 1: There is no section ballpark, although there is a a
Speaker 1: sweet souvenir out in left field last night. Yes, they're
Speaker 1: a very lucky fan who is positioned uh and not
Speaker 1: related to Kyle Yeoman's by the way, Corey Yeoman's. I
Speaker 1: think it's his name. Yeah, I said, did you send
Speaker 1: your dad to the game or big brother? Yeah? Ed,
Speaker 1: he said my phone. I was at dinner with my
Speaker 1: fiance and my phone blew up and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: he must have hit the home run. He goes, No.
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to know if I knew the guy, because
Speaker 1: they were looking for his phone number. I thought about it,
Speaker 1: and then I'd realize he didn't say anything about a
Speaker 1: brother or someone. Yeah, Corey. So anyway, yep, sixty two
Speaker 1: and the Rangers got number sixty seven. That's right, their
Speaker 1: sixty seventh win. So what do you do? Do you
Speaker 1: cheer for him. If you're a ranger, oh heck, kiss
Speaker 1: you do you cheer for him? Even if you're a
Speaker 1: player I think I mean a player, Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: a player. Yeah? Absolutely, So do you go out there
Speaker 1: and celebrate with him? Well they didn't, but everybody else did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm saying. You know, if I
Speaker 1: might be a fan, I mean I just thought playing
Speaker 1: I might be Basan and this guy hits one. I
Speaker 1: can't be a Ranger going out there. Hey, that's great, right.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if the Rangers are going to stream
Speaker 1: out of their day whether you don't, correct you? Where
Speaker 1: do congratulate? The pictures grow and meet up there? Well?
Speaker 1: He went six games trying to hit number six. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't have them out. What do you want?
Speaker 1: What do you want? Right? It was a slider that
Speaker 1: didn't slide. Yeah, right, I got it? Was it was
Speaker 1: what it was? It was a gift from Jesus. There
Speaker 1: you go? Well what was that was? Hey, Susian may
Speaker 1: sus Yes, hey, hey Susco to watch it live? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, can't watch it on MLBUM because it's blacked
Speaker 1: out here. But I discovered that TBS had a Tuesday
Speaker 1: night baseball game. Oh I didn't know that, And I said,
Speaker 1: I bet they cut in and they did so well.
Speaker 1: ESPN was cutting into every college football game whenever plate
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Well, and they did so all college
Speaker 1: football fans are rejoicing. He finally got the home run,
Speaker 1: and they had programming going on, like a special show
Speaker 1: or something, so they weren't going to cut into it, right,
Speaker 1: They weren't going live. So yeah, but I got to
Speaker 1: watch it, and boy, when I saw that swing happening
Speaker 1: and he made contact, I was like, whoa, that's it.
Speaker 1: You can tell that was gone. Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And then you know what the neat thing was it
Speaker 1: when he went around the bases like home run number two.
Speaker 1: You know, there was no big silly celebration, touched home plate.
Speaker 1: And then I thought the commercials he does the same
Speaker 1: thing in the right and then yeah, persona, that's his thing.
Speaker 1: And then and then it was almost like going to
Speaker 1: the reception line at a wedding. He hugged everybody that
Speaker 1: was there and ones that didn't come out on the field.
Speaker 1: He went through the dugout one by one and hugged
Speaker 1: him all. That was pretty cool. Now, that he deserves that,
Speaker 1: he deserves it. He is a big man. What position
Speaker 1: would he play in the National Football tight end? Can
Speaker 1: run ends and defensive end? Yeah yeah, yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be some kind of defensive end. He probably wouldn't even
Speaker 1: need to use a swim movie fall yeah six seven
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, at least he is larger than life. Um,
Speaker 1: this this is an aside, but you know who he
Speaker 1: reminds me of. Do you ever watch The Munsters? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember the Butler. Remember when some baseball guy I
Speaker 1: can't remember who it was made of guest appearance on
Speaker 1: The Monsters. And so Herman went to a baseball park
Speaker 1: and they threw pitches to him and he like hit
Speaker 1: what it like skyrock Earth went through the through the
Speaker 1: outfield fence. You know the ball there's a line drive
Speaker 1: that just burned a hole all the way through the
Speaker 1: outfield fence is always from the ball. He looks like
Speaker 1: just how his physical uh, just how large he is.
Speaker 1: That's I wonder how much uh the guy that caught
Speaker 1: the ball paid for his ticket because they were because
Speaker 1: I know for a fact you actually you actually had
Speaker 1: to pay to get into this game. The Rangers have
Speaker 1: been giving out free tickets. I know because I personally
Speaker 1: benefited from that. For all fourteen people in my family
Speaker 1: for a game of a couple of Fridays ago, they said,
Speaker 1: yeah you can. Uh. They offered me tickets just to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: and because they wanted me to spend for dinner for
Speaker 1: fourteen people there at the ballpark U and any game
Speaker 1: in September. Then I looked at the schedule, Well, what
Speaker 1: about the Yankee Series? No, no, no, And that was
Speaker 1: the largest paid crowd on the history of the ballpark,
Speaker 1: thirty eight thousand. I had read it. They were going
Speaker 1: for forty eight hundred dollars, so he did have to
Speaker 1: pay for it. But I don't know. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: especially be on the front row. And you saw the
Speaker 1: other guy that went over the railing, right, okay, they're
Speaker 1: about drivers. Yeah, he jumped over the railing and it
Speaker 1: was banking out at not making that. It was a
Speaker 1: shrewd move. Yea. I was thinking that, Okay, if he
Speaker 1: drops it, I'm gonna I'm in this little space between
Speaker 1: the outfield wall and the seats where I can get
Speaker 1: the ball. It was shrewd until he was escorted off
Speaker 1: and we went underneath because we were going to find
Speaker 1: the guy who caught the ball, So we camped out
Speaker 1: by the Yankees clubhouse, knowing that they would take him
Speaker 1: down there, or assuming they would. Well, no, they took
Speaker 1: the guy that they that they well, I mean we
Speaker 1: didn't watch him. For that guy, it was all or nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know he wasn't gonna catch Yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't care about the game. Catch it. Yeah, He's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my best move that I'm gonna make because
Speaker 1: if it went down, if it went down there and
Speaker 1: he caught it or got it when he got taking
Speaker 1: the ball away, No, you ain't getting my ball. We're
Speaker 1: gonna fight this ball. No, brother's a two million dollars balls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are not gonna get me for this. Did anybody
Speaker 1: get to interview the guy? Uh? They just asked him
Speaker 1: a quick question. Yeah yeah, but he uh no that
Speaker 1: he hasn't that I know of. He hasn't done any
Speaker 1: and like said, I'm keeping it, I'm giving it, not
Speaker 1: tell anything he knows he's gonna do. I mean he's
Speaker 1: an investment banker, Okay, I read in the paper. Not
Speaker 1: only an investment banker, he's the vice president too. He
Speaker 1: knows so you had to pay extra then to be
Speaker 1: in that part of the stadium because everybody knows it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Those were the most coveted seats, so they
Speaker 1: had to pay extra right to get to see Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: especially on the first row there. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a catch though. By the way, No,
Speaker 1: it was nice right he went up in master dude,
Speaker 1: he went in moston because another guy wanted that. He
Speaker 1: came up at the top that wasn't getting It's pretty
Speaker 1: cool to see. It was also cool to see the
Speaker 1: Rangers tweeted out a picture of three cowboys in Rangers jackets.
Speaker 1: I saw that game, and that would be Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and Michael Gallup were all there. And again, yeah,
Speaker 1: nice as we bring it back to cowboys, bring it back,
Speaker 1: bring it back, baby, and to they're practicing right now
Speaker 1: behind us, not it lead behind us, but across the
Speaker 1: God that guy with his hand right, yeah, he caught
Speaker 1: it left hand right, Um, all right, and there's no
Speaker 1: more suspense there, right. He's not playing. He never was gonna.
Speaker 1: Jerry stopped playing with people. Stop stop fooling around, Jerry.
Speaker 1: He's just being up to be also keeps it, keeps
Speaker 1: it the talk of the town. Right now, what what
Speaker 1: did my dad say? He's just being a hal all right, So, uh,
Speaker 1: who's your long snapper of choice this week? We don't know.
Speaker 1: They're having a snap off. Um, they brought in four
Speaker 1: guys yesterday. When we finished, we saw those guys on
Speaker 1: the field and I saw a guy with a weird number,
Speaker 1: like forty something and he had the ball in his hands.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, they're they're working out a deep snapper. Well,
Speaker 1: they were working out four of them, uh, and they
Speaker 1: chose two and have signed them to the practice squad.
Speaker 1: Matt Overton last on the Rams practice squad and Tucker
Speaker 1: Addington played with the Houston Gamblers this spring in the USFL.
Speaker 1: Sam Houston state. They still have the Houston name. Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: that was Jim Kelly. That's right right, my wide receiver
Speaker 1: played for the Houston Gambles. Well that's that's like Turpin
Speaker 1: played for the New Jersey Generals. Yeah. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: kept the name. So anyway, those two guys will work
Speaker 1: this week, and I'm sure on Saturday they'll make a
Speaker 1: decision on which one's gonna be. My ignorance, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that we had a snap no one, and no
Speaker 1: one knew until yesterday afternoon. What happened Jake McQuaid. Okay,
Speaker 1: he tore his triceps muscle on the last punt of
Speaker 1: the game sapping the ball. No, he was blocking, and
Speaker 1: it was weird because he was blocking and I saw
Speaker 1: him kind of grab the guy with his right arm
Speaker 1: and kind of slung him to the ground. And I said, oh,
Speaker 1: he did it in his right arm. But then he
Speaker 1: started running down field and he was holding his arm
Speaker 1: close to his his left arm close to his body,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, no, he was running down to cover. Oh,
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna tackle anybody. But uh yeah, it was okay.
Speaker 1: So the snatch came back to be too vigorous here
Speaker 1: on field goal protection, right. Uh, it was punt two minute,
Speaker 1: not trying to do this that. So this happened during
Speaker 1: the game at that point, two minutes left, and this happened, No,
Speaker 1: two minutes to go in the game. Okay, bad, And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so he's out for the year, probably has
Speaker 1: to have surgery. Wow. And he had played every game
Speaker 1: for eleven seasons when he first got in the league
Speaker 1: in two uh twenty eleven. Wow, and that's the first
Speaker 1: time he's gonna miss the game. This still playing for
Speaker 1: the Giants. Yeah, I was wondering where an l Latticewer was.
Speaker 1: He's not, No, he's not there any he said, he said,
Speaker 1: come in, come on, Steve's son in here, man, come on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know it's not just you know
Speaker 1: that that's a kind of disrupt the operation. You saw
Speaker 1: what happened with Cincinnati and the season opener against the Steelers,
Speaker 1: but that was the emergency guy. Yeah, they didn't but
Speaker 1: the importance of a yeah, quality snap and they immediately hired,
Speaker 1: I mean signed a deep snapper for real for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys game. And right now, see what he can do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see if he can get his son here. I should
Speaker 1: have asked Drew. Drew was up in the lobby, Drew,
Speaker 1: can you deep snap as you like? Do you like
Speaker 1: get up in the morning and where that jacket or
Speaker 1: what's going on? I got all the fame jacket everywhere
Speaker 1: you go. He's got an appearance. I told him. If
Speaker 1: he gets bored, you know we got a podcast going
Speaker 1: on just downstairs. You can join us. He goes, you
Speaker 1: got any money, I said, I gotta open mic. He
Speaker 1: tells me, I cry and pray and I'll be there, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm crying pray for Everson. Zach Diosse's last year
Speaker 1: with the Giants was two thousand nineteen. Okay, it's a
Speaker 1: deep snapper. Well that was only because of COVID, so
Speaker 1: he should be healthy, right, So we'll see how this
Speaker 1: one works out. Because you know, it was just uh Monday, Um,
Speaker 1: John Fossil was crediting their operation on the field goals
Speaker 1: that and and Brett Maher's same thing. He was crediting
Speaker 1: the operation that you know, everybody's got confidence and everybody
Speaker 1: and we're, uh, you know, we're working really well together.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta change. Well, And that was on Monday,
Speaker 1: and you know, Fossil already knew that he had an issue, right,
Speaker 1: and he probably I don't know if he knew. He
Speaker 1: and mcquoi is a guy that he's had for years,
Speaker 1: right because he was in with the Rams. Right. So
Speaker 1: this is the second time only since two thousand and
Speaker 1: five that the Cowboys have changed deep snappers in the
Speaker 1: middle of the season, because in two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels ran out of patience with rookie John Condo
Speaker 1: after the first I don't know, it was four or
Speaker 1: five games, and it was between the Cowboys were playing
Speaker 1: San Francisco and Oakland back to back, and we stayed
Speaker 1: out on the West coast and we were practiced. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys were practicing at San Jose State and they brought
Speaker 1: in some guy that's deep snap for cal because he
Speaker 1: was right down the road and he drives in, has
Speaker 1: a workout and they signed one LP Latissour on the
Speaker 1: spot and he never missed the game for the next
Speaker 1: sixteen years. I told I said, the Cowboy wasn't need
Speaker 1: a long snapper. I say, I'm on a podcast. He goes,
Speaker 1: my stuff is still nice. I said, not use that.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean my son? Yeah, my stuff? And whatever
Speaker 1: happened to that John Condo character, that Bill Parcels ran
Speaker 1: out of patients. We got picked up and he did,
Speaker 1: he got, he got. He had a fifteen year career
Speaker 1: in the NFL and he was a two time Pro
Speaker 1: bowler as well. Yep so, but yeah, he had a
Speaker 1: couple of bad snaps and the last ones were in
Speaker 1: that game against the forty nine ers and he's, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. And for the next twelve
Speaker 1: years he was the Oakland Raiders. H Deep snapp Deep Snapper.
Speaker 1: Steve says he's better, but he's except he can't hardly
Speaker 1: bent over. That's a problem. All right, then, we're just
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Speaker 1: were talking USFL in the first segment, and I got
Speaker 1: a response from a listener viewer Nate in Frisco says
Speaker 1: that Nate Newton played for the Tampa Bay Bandits no, no,
Speaker 1: Nathaniel from Frisco. Oh not than or is it Nathaniel
Speaker 1: down the hallway? Well, he sent it in third person, Nate,
Speaker 1: and so I assumed it must not be the same
Speaker 1: fund like a ego problem. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: so they didn't have to make a roster move on
Speaker 1: the practice squad to put those two guys on there
Speaker 1: because they elevated Will greer um or assigned him to
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster when they headed up the
Speaker 1: spot because they had to because he already used these
Speaker 1: three elevations and they already had an open spot on
Speaker 1: the sixteen man practice squad, So no one had to
Speaker 1: get cut to put those two guys down there to
Speaker 1: practice this week with him. All right, So what do
Speaker 1: we need to know from Mike McCarthy's Wednesday press conference today. Well,
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, I saw him from
Speaker 1: the restaurant across the street. I couldn't hear him, but
Speaker 1: I saw him. Oh, you were watching, were good? So Um,
Speaker 1: Donovan Lewis and Donovan Wilson. Um, Jordan Lewis got my
Speaker 1: Donovan too soon local radio personality. They were they were
Speaker 1: listed as limited. They were going to work with the
Speaker 1: re have guys. They were going to see how Lewis did.
Speaker 1: And as for Wilson, they just kind of looked at
Speaker 1: his workload. The last I think three games in a row,
Speaker 1: he's he played every snap in the game, and so
Speaker 1: they were gonna let him just, you know, have a day.
Speaker 1: And he's had He's had some days, Yes he has.
Speaker 1: He's had some Sundays and a Monday, Yeah exactly. So, Uh,
Speaker 1: it looks like Curse was slated to practice fully today,
Speaker 1: so he should be out there and problem how that goes.
Speaker 1: He had a sprain knee and he's missed three games.
Speaker 1: This is four weeks now. Uh. And the good news
Speaker 1: is they're starting the clock on Damane Clark. Uh. He'd
Speaker 1: been on non football injury NFI, and they can practice
Speaker 1: him three weeks before having to make some sort of
Speaker 1: decision on him. That is very interesting and a course.
Speaker 1: Damon Clark is the fifth round draft pick out of LSU,
Speaker 1: number one seventy six overall, and at the time that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys drafted him, because of his injury issue, it
Speaker 1: was suspected that, ah, this might be a red shirt year,
Speaker 1: or at best it maybe it'll be December before he'll
Speaker 1: be able to play, And for them to already start
Speaker 1: the clock in early October is really surging. Maybe by
Speaker 1: the beginning of November. Somebody asked me today, like, well,
Speaker 1: where do you play him? And I said, well, I said,
Speaker 1: have you seen this guy what he looks like as
Speaker 1: a linebacker? I said, special teams for sure, once he's
Speaker 1: ready to go. And he's been here, Mike McCarthy pointed out,
Speaker 1: he's here seven days a week rehabbing running. You know,
Speaker 1: when you can do all the running. It was a
Speaker 1: neck surgery. He had to fuse the discs in his neck.
Speaker 1: So we're still we're still red shirting professionals redchard. I'm
Speaker 1: just sort of unofficially, Yeah, I didn't know how big
Speaker 1: using that term. So, I mean, this guy was pretty
Speaker 1: darn good at lsuin. Well, here's the other thing, just
Speaker 1: to picture him. Okay, what is Micah Parsons listed at
Speaker 1: Parsons is probably listened at six four two sixty five
Speaker 1: six five, he's listed at six three two forty five
Speaker 1: to forty five. WA's demon Clark listed at six three
Speaker 1: two forty five. So I mean you're getting a player
Speaker 1: of that same build, right uh. And you know the
Speaker 1: other thing with line, but he's more defined like this
Speaker 1: guy's stout really, so he's more he's not all two
Speaker 1: forty five the same like for instance myself, I'm not
Speaker 1: He's probably got one arm lineup. Which one did this
Speaker 1: to you? It was a bad guy. You could put
Speaker 1: Tom Brady at the cabin. You could put two of
Speaker 1: Bill's arms into one of his. Guy's got some arms,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. So Yeah, that's it. That's encouraging
Speaker 1: to hear. And and for his case too, I've not
Speaker 1: been hearing much from Sam Williams. He's been out there,
Speaker 1: he hadn't had a sack, but he's been showing up.
Speaker 1: He made progress this week. There was no penalty this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, yeah or dumb call Okay, Yeah, quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the air, he's free game. To me, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah on the sideline. Yeah, when they got called for
Speaker 1: the lad he had done. Hey, it's a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's a running back running now. Yes, And
Speaker 1: he's still in bounds. Care if he's in the air sliding, No,
Speaker 1: and he's holding that You can hold the ball out
Speaker 1: when you're in the air, right, And quarterbacks have been
Speaker 1: warned if you're gonna try to tip be toed down
Speaker 1: that sideline and try to gain extra yards, you are
Speaker 1: fair game. Oh and I know I saw when I
Speaker 1: told you, I saw some guy struggling to get off
Speaker 1: the field, and then they called too many, too many
Speaker 1: guys on the field on him. It was the tight
Speaker 1: end from Tampa Bay. Great. Yes, yes, he's in bad shape. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and they called it, and it's like, let
Speaker 1: the guy get off. You can see he's struggling, he's
Speaker 1: trying to get off. He's not in the game. God,
Speaker 1: these guys could be so anal about things. I swear
Speaker 1: to God, is it time you have anything else for us?
Speaker 1: I do you can't give me time for Mike Shin God,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys a question, what is
Speaker 1: the fastest you will go on sam Rayburn Tollway? Like
Speaker 1: even if you're in a hurry, depends on the car. Man.
Speaker 1: If sam Rayburn Tollway would be one twenty one, yes,
Speaker 1: North Dallas Man, if I mean comfortably comfortably? Yeah, you could.
Speaker 1: You could push ninety five comfortably on one. Well, that
Speaker 1: must have been him that because I know what I do.
Speaker 1: I said with the I said it on seventy, okay,
Speaker 1: and I go seventy and the way stay to the right,
Speaker 1: staying that stay to the right, that left lane. No,
Speaker 1: you can't be there. You're the guy that causes all
Speaker 1: the fables. I was going eighty and some guy came
Speaker 1: by me like I was standing still. He had to
Speaker 1: be going ninety. Maybe it was it was a dark
Speaker 1: car with one of those phony muffler things that make
Speaker 1: a lot of noise that you pay extra four and
Speaker 1: it doesn't and it doesn't do anything to make the
Speaker 1: car go faster. Right when was this guy blew by
Speaker 1: me this morning? Chris needs no time morning? It was
Speaker 1: probably around do you have two kids in the car
Speaker 1: with eight or eight fifteen? You have two kids in
Speaker 1: the car with him going to school? Now? He was
Speaker 1: by himself. I mean he flew by me and I'm going,
Speaker 1: how fast will you go? Man? What time did the
Speaker 1: players have to be here today? Yeah, that's funny. You
Speaker 1: said it might have been getting closed, and yeah, it
Speaker 1: might have been getting closed. That's why back when they
Speaker 1: were at the ranch and guys would show up late, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't be in their way because they were flying,
Speaker 1: especially to make sure that they got there for Joe
Speaker 1: Amazonal Special Teams meeting. That if you weren't there ten
Speaker 1: minutes ahead, you were late, and he locked the door
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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think anything else that Mike gave
Speaker 1: us some updates that he normally doesn't. Uh No, I
Speaker 1: think that was good. Uh. He gave the team the
Speaker 1: speech this morning about their assessment of the first month
Speaker 1: of the season four games. What was good or through
Speaker 1: the first quarter of the season, even though it's a
Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule, that quarter in the third right or so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you whatever put it, but anyway,
Speaker 1: he gave them a list of things, and a couple
Speaker 1: of things is, uh, the pre snap penalties have to improve. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the other one was basically got to do
Speaker 1: better on first and second down so they don't struggle
Speaker 1: as much on third down because their third down conversion
Speaker 1: rate is probably not what they wanted. When we when
Speaker 1: we're not running the ball, well, ye, first and second down,
Speaker 1: then you know what we're stuck with and not third down?
Speaker 1: Is it could be better? You look at the n
Speaker 1: Nate any stuff, Nate stop bro Okay, come on, so
Speaker 1: they well, I didn't answer yesterday, so now he's on news.
Speaker 1: There are sixteen of fifty three on third down. That's
Speaker 1: thirty point two percent. You want to be thirty five
Speaker 1: to forty percent. That's again, a good defense, A good
Speaker 1: defense will cover all of that up right. As long
Speaker 1: as your defense is stopping them on third downs, then
Speaker 1: that that thirty something percent, that's not a big factor. Nate.
Speaker 1: Nate's out working. Our producer Nate Newton has sent a
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Speaker 1: do you have anything else that you want to get
Speaker 1: into something? If you don't, Okay, I just saw on
Speaker 1: Twitter that Colts running back Jonathan Taylor has been ruled
Speaker 1: out of the Thursday night game against Denver with a
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. On my drive end today, I was
Speaker 1: listening to Sirius NFL Radio and I really enjoy listening
Speaker 1: to rich Gannon on there. He again, he does a
Speaker 1: great job. And I think he's tight with McCarthy because
Speaker 1: he was with Kansas City maybe when McCarthy was there.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. He says says some things about McCarthy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Anyway, that's one of the reason. And say, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll listen to listen to again in here and may
Speaker 1: give me a little tidbit or whatever. But he's very
Speaker 1: knowledgeable about all the teams and everything. But one thing
Speaker 1: that he was talking about today was the gre he says,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about the cults, and he's talking
Speaker 1: about the leadership on that Colts team because they are
Speaker 1: really struggling right now. You know, they had a lackluster
Speaker 1: game against Tennessee. They played lackluster all year outside of
Speaker 1: their win against Kansas City. Okay, he said, he's saying
Speaker 1: the leadership on that team needs to step up. They
Speaker 1: need to do some real soul searching, and the players
Speaker 1: need to take over that team, the veteran players on
Speaker 1: that team. And what he said is the great coaches.
Speaker 1: He wasn't being critical of Frank w Reich, their head coach,
Speaker 1: but he says that the great he believes the great
Speaker 1: coaches in this league figure out a way for the
Speaker 1: players to be the owner, to take ownership of the
Speaker 1: team and to be the real leaders of the team. Okay,
Speaker 1: so my question to you is is you agree with
Speaker 1: that and set laid on this Cowboys team. Is that
Speaker 1: something that has happened, because that's when he was talking
Speaker 1: about it. I was thinking about McCarthy's coaching style and
Speaker 1: that is that it goes hand in hand with what
Speaker 1: I think McCarthy does as a head coach. Bill puss Sells.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was only there with one year with
Speaker 1: plus Sells, so he didn't give me a chance to
Speaker 1: be pissed off at him. He had pissed off a
Speaker 1: lot of the players and veterans that had been there,
Speaker 1: And I think it was by design because when I
Speaker 1: stepped into that locker room, you could tell the veterans
Speaker 1: that were running the running the whole joint, and pass
Speaker 1: sales was nowhere to be found. So I believe he
Speaker 1: allowed us to commiserate amongst ourselves in spite of him.
Speaker 1: You understand, he wants us. He would rather the players
Speaker 1: be in unison hating him, as opposed to having a
Speaker 1: fractured locker room worrying about what management thinks. So I
Speaker 1: thought he was really good at that by having the
Speaker 1: guys galvanize as a locker room as a team and
Speaker 1: really uh having their own leadership going inside the inside
Speaker 1: the locker room. You know that that sounds familiar because
Speaker 1: one of he put all those little mind vitamins up
Speaker 1: in the locker room the signs, and one of the
Speaker 1: signs said something about winners stay together as a team.
Speaker 1: Losers have small factions that complained each other right right,
Speaker 1: and and so that sounds, you know, just tries to
Speaker 1: set up. So I stepped in. You could tell that
Speaker 1: the guys ran the locker room. By the way. Rich
Speaker 1: Ginnon was with the Chiefs from nineteen ninety five through
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight and Mike McCarthy was the quarterbacks coach
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs from nineteen ninety five through nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: So they are you know that they're closing, you know
Speaker 1: when you look at that coach team, and we saw
Speaker 1: a hard knocks during the season, I believe, and they
Speaker 1: gambled on Wentz big time. But in spite of that,
Speaker 1: they did have leadership on that team, especially from the
Speaker 1: defense side, and the running game was going strong. Taylor
Speaker 1: was he was bawling, and you know, Wentz wasn't doing
Speaker 1: so well. Now you've got an offensive line, I guess
Speaker 1: they must be a little bit, uh having some problems
Speaker 1: there on the offensive line. They can't run the ball
Speaker 1: up there, you say, And you got an older quarterback,
Speaker 1: So Mattie Matt Ryan is back there struggling, even though
Speaker 1: he did have that one game that was almost redemption
Speaker 1: for them, but they came back and did the same thing.
Speaker 1: So what was the what's the middle linebacker? His name
Speaker 1: Leonard Leonard, Shaquille Leonard now Darius Leonard. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he was he was. He got hurt last year,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, but that was the leader of
Speaker 1: that team, and he's been hurt this year. He's off
Speaker 1: and on. Yeah, I think that that really hurts him
Speaker 1: more than anything, is not happing. He's the Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: of that squad. So to answer your question, you've got Dak,
Speaker 1: Zack Martin, to Marcus Lawrence I think, and in a
Speaker 1: probably quieter way, Anthony Brown. But those are the guys
Speaker 1: that have been here, and I think they have a
Speaker 1: say in the locker room. I know Zach does for sure,
Speaker 1: uh not when the media is in there, but for
Speaker 1: the team, and we know Dak for sure, u Zeke
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then Parsons, Uh, you know, even
Speaker 1: as a rookie last year, you know, by just the
Speaker 1: way he played command respect, right, Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: and you go back to even Dak in Zeke's rookie year,
Speaker 1: by the way they played they commanded respect, step up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in that locker room. Yeah, So sometimes you know it
Speaker 1: has to be it can't be Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be a leader. It's got to be organic, it's got
Speaker 1: to evolve. And I think Mike has allowed that to happen,
Speaker 1: uh in his locker room now by action. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that Jimmy wanted any leaders in that locker room,
Speaker 1: but there were leaders in but there was Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he was, whether whether it was him trying to get
Speaker 1: it organized or not Michael Irvin. And I think he
Speaker 1: appreciated the fact that Michael Levin stepped up. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Mike stepped up big time. He gave Yeah, he
Speaker 1: would interrupt his post practice speeches. Mike would stand up
Speaker 1: and just take over. So and j I don't remember
Speaker 1: Jimmy getting pissed off about that at all. So I
Speaker 1: don't think he minded certain ones being those leaders. Of course,
Speaker 1: the triplets, that's that's the ultimate. And he allowed others
Speaker 1: to come in and do the same. Charles Haley, you know, Dion.
Speaker 1: He allowed them all to come in and do their
Speaker 1: own thing, and it all led to because they were
Speaker 1: all winners. Even Nate, I know he's listening. Even Nate
Speaker 1: in his own way, Nate says, when I'm talking all
Speaker 1: that funny trash around here. But when Late was on
Speaker 1: the field, no, he had respect from his teammates, no
Speaker 1: doubt a battle. And there's the other part of it
Speaker 1: is because you talk about leadership like that, there's also
Speaker 1: I could feel it even after the Giants win. In
Speaker 1: the locker room after the game, you could tell that
Speaker 1: this was a It was a loud, boisterous type locker
Speaker 1: room setting where guys were comfortable talking to each other
Speaker 1: and yelling across the room. Go back to the nineties Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and we were able to sit in that locker room
Speaker 1: for hours at a time, and with Nate in there,
Speaker 1: and and you know they were and that's that's all healthy.
Speaker 1: That that's how you build a team and build relationships
Speaker 1: on the team and stuff. Well, this this locker room
Speaker 1: during the week, you missed it even after they lost
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay game. But for the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: you know, they were bringing certain guys out in the
Speaker 1: hallway to do the interviews like group type thing. There
Speaker 1: was so much noise at that end of the locker room.
Speaker 1: You couldn't hardly hear what those guys were saying in
Speaker 1: the hallway, right And it was a bunch of the
Speaker 1: dbs always right. I mean, they were at each other
Speaker 1: and whatever the topic was, right, they were, they were back.
Speaker 1: That's the way they were. After the Giants game and
Speaker 1: meetings in there, the whole defensive end of the locker room,
Speaker 1: they were yelling about something. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: they were yelling about, but all I know is that's healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is good stuff right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And after the Cincinnati game. It was during that week,
Speaker 1: it was the same thing. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: they were arguing about college football or some player how
Speaker 1: good he was or wasn't. They could have been talking basketball.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean what you mentioned, I could
Speaker 1: remember Friday's back at the ranch, and you know, the
Speaker 1: work is done, so now they're blowing off steam. I've
Speaker 1: spent more time listening to Nate about whatever athletic endeavor
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about. You want to talk boxing,
Speaker 1: We talked boxing, wanted to talk basketball, And I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, I wasted more hours in my life listening
Speaker 1: to you on Friday, right when I needed to get
Speaker 1: work done. But it was so good that I didn't
Speaker 1: want to leave, and they don't want to go home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they didn't. You're right, but you know the early
Speaker 1: eighties cowboys were like that. Yeah right. I mean now,
Speaker 1: the locker room was always boisterous, and we always had
Speaker 1: that guy, whether it was Springs, you know, whether it
Speaker 1: was I'm a guy. They had so many guys do
Speaker 1: us set was. It was funny when he wanted to
Speaker 1: be you know, we just had guys in there. Harvey
Speaker 1: Morden was a guy that just was always boisterous and
Speaker 1: and he was just sign of confidence. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a camaraderie, that's what it is. It's come because as
Speaker 1: we you know, we call it play the dozens or whatever,
Speaker 1: as we talk about each other and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. It comes from a good place, especially your quadrant. Yes,
Speaker 1: the gether well they called it gather word. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: then you take it to the field too, and then
Speaker 1: you're comfortable with that camaraderie that you're talking about. So
Speaker 1: when you're talking and you know that someone sees it
Speaker 1: on TV and they's all they're mad at each other. No,
Speaker 1: not step up, man, And sometimes you I'll apologize, I'm
Speaker 1: mad at myself. I got it. Next time I should
Speaker 1: step up my bad So yeah, I could remember Dutton
Speaker 1: with that deep voice is um. It was after It
Speaker 1: was after that preseason game, must have been eighty six,
Speaker 1: I want to say against the Bears. Randy White got
Speaker 1: thrown out. He got in that fight and he took
Speaker 1: the guys helmet off and bumped him on the head
Speaker 1: with it. At that time, it was right at Randy'll
Speaker 1: tell you all. It was so hot out there. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to play anyway. It was a preseason game.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we're in the locker room, we're talking
Speaker 1: about it, and Dutton stands up in their little quadrants,
Speaker 1: so to everybody they had it was like four quadrants
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Everybody was kind of segregated. And uh,
Speaker 1: Dutton stands up and he goes, yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: what Randy told the guy. He goes, if you want
Speaker 1: to finish this, we'll meet in the locker room in
Speaker 1: the parking lot afterwards. How he just screams it out right,
Speaker 1: and it was probably a true story. And that doesn't
Speaker 1: doesn't voice It would elevate always with management. He never thought.
Speaker 1: He never taught bad about his own teammates, right. He
Speaker 1: was always mad at Tom Landry or Gila and I
Speaker 1: promise you. That is the only person I think Tom
Speaker 1: Landry was ever afraid of. Yes, Tom is this size
Speaker 1: and John could you imagine if you couldn't control John
Speaker 1: doesn't doing the practice great man or tried to find him. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting fined. Well I like that. Yes, that
Speaker 1: was good. So I've got the I've got a good
Speaker 1: feeling about this team from that standpoint too, because they
Speaker 1: hung together camaraderie. He didn't gettured Tapa trend and it
Speaker 1: was not yeah, very very, very easily. And I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that McCarthy was pointing out
Speaker 1: in his little team meeting this morning, about how they
Speaker 1: stuck together and everybody stepped up and we overcame things.
Speaker 1: And it ain't pretty. No, it ain't pretty. I love
Speaker 1: winning ugly and and again and and and as you know,
Speaker 1: the final point he was making is and we have
Speaker 1: a lot to improve on. We still have. And you've
Speaker 1: got two games, two road games that are coming up
Speaker 1: against the defending Super Bowl champ I don't care that
Speaker 1: they are two and two and coming off a loss,
Speaker 1: and then against the team the only unbeaten team in
Speaker 1: the league right now leading your division, and so it's
Speaker 1: like never a good thing as a night game in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: They're not talking about that in that logger. The fans
Speaker 1: need to worry about that. Yeah, we'll be okay, all right,
Speaker 1: so plenty to get to tomorrow on the next edition
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