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Speaker 1: you stand with on X Spencer, What was the point?

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Speaker 1: You're just making a lot of like books legally allow

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Speaker 1: all that there are. We've covered this a bi zillion times.

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Speaker 1: The regular old American wild turkey. There's five sort of

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Speaker 1: him off, yohnnie. Uh. Starting down in the southwest the

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Speaker 1: Tommy Edson have overcome the dreaded COVID nineteen that got

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Speaker 1: or somebody you know, it was after him. Nobody had

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Speaker 1: been able to crack soon now my little Caesar's. No,

426
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be like Alex Jones, I'll be

427
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Speaker 1: getting sued by people for so for forty years, no

428
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Speaker 1: one has cracked this code on how to grow morale's

429
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Speaker 1: like Ronald Oer did O R R O E R

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Speaker 1: I think oh R excuse me O W E R

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Speaker 1: O A Ronald Oer. Uh. But recently some articles out

432
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Speaker 1: of Iowa and some some news stations have covered this. Uh.

433
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: Some newspapers have covered this. A mushroom farmer there claims

434
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Speaker 1: to have figured out how to grow morale mushrooms. And

435
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: this spring he harvested about a hundred pounds, he said,

436
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Speaker 1: And this is after a decade's worth of efforts. And

437
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: so I was going to try to track him down

438
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: and talk to him about what his process is. If

439
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: he's scared for his life, those sorts of things they

440
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: track him down. Uh. And your your question, Steve, you said,

441
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Speaker 1: when you talk to him asking this, why are they

442
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: so hard to grow? So I asked him that, Um,

443
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great answer. So then I went

444
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Speaker 1: to the internet. The Internet doesn't have a great answer either.

445
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: But basically what he said and what the rest of

446
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Speaker 1: the Internet agrees with, is that it just takes very,

447
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: very very specific conditions it takes the perfect soil moisture,

448
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: the perfect humidity, the perfect like air temperature, all those

449
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 1: things to make this happen. It's and then say we're

450
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Speaker 1: growing carrots. Look well, So then like the specifics of

451
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: this are amplified when you have to also have a

452
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Speaker 1: tree involved. So then you're like, you're like working with

453
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Speaker 1: two things. You're trying to make things perfect for the

454
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Speaker 1: mushroom as well as uh, you know because of symbio

455
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: work with this ya symbiotic relationship that it has with

456
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: the tree. So those two things just kind of compound

457
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: the difficulties of growing him around mushroom. I'll buy that

458
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: part about the tree part for sure. Yeah. So I

459
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: asked me, I said, what is your process? Like, can

460
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: we scare ahead as he's scared for his life? He's not.

461
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: He was aware, he's aware of Ronald oer Um. He

462
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: has looked at the patent. Nothing in his process is

463
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: inspired by the patent um. So there's no relationship here

464
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Speaker 1: between Ronald Ower's like growing strategy and his. Yeah, but

465
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: the man, I mean the powerful pizza lobby or the

466
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: underground underworld, I mean they might still get him. This

467
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: is also something ask and I said, their business interests

468
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: at this point, he said, yes, but nothing that he

469
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Speaker 1: is acting on at this point. His name is Josh Osborne.

470
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Speaker 1: Oh you're allowed to say his name. I mean that

471
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Speaker 1: newspapers covered it is Blues Blues best mushrooms out of Iowa. Um,

472
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: he said. His process is actually not um like that

473
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: unique to growing mushrooms. It's very similar to what you

474
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Speaker 1: do with other mushrooms that you cultivate. Starts with spores

475
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: in a peetree dish. From there, yeah, once he once.

476
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Speaker 1: He in this lab environment, the spores and the petrie dish,

477
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: the my celium starts to grow. The my celium is

478
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: what the little white fibers that live in tree. Yeah,

479
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: so I under like if you imagine, uh, this isn't

480
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: a great just a little bit helpful. Imagine that you

481
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: have an apple tree. The my celium is the apple

482
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: tree living underground, and then the morales are the apples

483
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: which has happened to form at the earth surface. That's

484
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: a great analogy. You like that? Yeah, Yeah, that's that's

485
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: very helpful when you're thinking about often get criticized. It's

486
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Speaker 1: from my analogies and I like that one. So my

487
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: wife doesn't well, this one's appropriate, doesn't like spores in

488
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: a petrie dish, which then turned into mycelium. The mycelium

489
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Speaker 1: is transferred to a eight by eight inch plastic bag.

490
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Speaker 1: From there, once the mycelium has grown a bit more,

491
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I got distracted thinking about Uh, analogies have annoyed my wife.

492
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Can you back up one step? So it starts with

493
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: the morale mushroom spores in a petree dish. Those spores

494
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: turn into my celium. He then takes and transfers the

495
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Speaker 1: mycelium from the petrie dish to a plastic bag. So

496
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: you now have the mycelium in a plastic bag. Once

497
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: it develops a bit more in this plastic bag, he

498
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Speaker 1: then takes it out to his field where he's going

499
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Speaker 1: to grow these morales. And there are three things that

500
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Speaker 1: he's done in three things that have success. You can

501
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Speaker 1: dump the contents of the bag onto the ground. You

502
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: could dig a hole and dump the contents of the

503
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Speaker 1: bag into that hole. Or you could dig a hole

504
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Speaker 1: and put the entire bag in the ground. He said,

505
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Speaker 1: all three have worked for him. Well, how do they

506
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Speaker 1: get into the bag? Well, I assume the bag is

507
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: open or ventilated or something. You know, the cat out

508
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: of the bag. He does this process in the fall,

509
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Speaker 1: and there's got to be some stuff that he's not

510
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: telling you, certainly, And why would he like It's like,

511
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Speaker 1: I'm a soaking it beer. He's got like a little

512
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Speaker 1: go for something that I'm a stranger calling him to

513
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: ask him for his greatest alconic spot in the world.

514
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Speaker 1: That's so, how exactly are you? Yep? Yep? So that's

515
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: the process. Yeah, what is he doing about? What is

516
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: he doing about the symbiosis that needs to occur between

517
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Speaker 1: this mysterious mushroom and the trees that it likes to

518
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Speaker 1: grow near. No tree necessary for his process, that's what

519
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: he's saying. Maybe the tree, it's like the petrick maybe helps,

520
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: it's the petri dish. Yeah, So he does this in

521
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: the fall, and he said, it's not so much about

522
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: the process leading up to it. For him, it's that

523
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: he has cracked the cold for the perfect timing to

524
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Speaker 1: do this and having the perfect amount of shade, the

525
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: proper amount of blocking the wind um, the proper temperature

526
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: to maintain how much sun is on it during the day,

527
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: all those things he's saying that is where others are

528
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: failing he's figured it out. Man, we had some big

529
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: old fat easier and I did Ni. Those are tasty

530
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: wild ones. You like to put a lot of butter

531
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: in that pan. Oh yeah, man, like to use but

532
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: I like butter. I like so much butter in there.

533
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: When you cook a Morrell, it's like a butter sponge.

534
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: I like to put enough butter in there that the

535
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: Morrell can't get it all that the Morrel's thirst for

536
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: butter is quenched and there's still butter left. We could

537
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 1: used more butter on those balls. We ate like alright now.

538
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Josh had said in a newspaper interview that he'd like

539
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Speaker 1: to harvest a thousand pounds next spring. He thinks that's doable.

540
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: And I asked him how confident he is? What kind

541
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: of acre to re talk about? Well, uh, currently he's

542
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: doing a half acre plot. Um. When I asked him

543
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: about like how practical, Like how likely do you think

544
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, this thousand pound goal that you have,

545
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: he said it's all dependent on the amount of time

546
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Speaker 1: that he has and the amount of funding that he has,

547
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: because he said it's very expensive to do this on

548
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: like a half acre plot. And girl hundred pounds. Um,

549
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: now you gotta take that times ten, And he said

550
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: he's not sure like that. Those are limiting factors at

551
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: this point, his time and his money to pull this off.

552
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Is he a mycologist? Um, I I don't. He's a

553
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: mushroom farmer. And oh okay, so so so that he's

554
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: got just a general background in mushroom farment, right, Yeah,

555
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I guess I call it that earlier. Yeah, So I

556
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, you know, we'll see what happens next

557
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: spring with this. If he has a thousand pounds, I'm

558
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: a believer, But at this point I'm still skeptical that

559
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: he has solved it, because it would be like if

560
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: if Brody went out to some pond and dumped in

561
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: like a bag of small bass finger ling, and then

562
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: came back in a year and caught some adult bass

563
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: and you said, I grew bass. That's right, It's not

564
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: necessarily that simple, and like I have created life, yes, yep,

565
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: and uh we just sae. An article on the meat

566
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: eator dot com the ten biggest morale mushrooms ever found,

567
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: and a majority of that list comes from this stretch

568
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: from like Iowa to Illinois, Indiana enormous like the size

569
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: of Yanni's court jar here and bigger, really big for scale.

570
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: They always have you know, the back of mushrooms demystified,

571
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: or is the front of mushrooms? Des is the back

572
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: of front of mushrooms demystified? You want to talk about morrel? Yeah,

573
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, they probably a pounder more.

574
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Some of some of these were wearing a pound inches

575
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: tall with a diameter of equal that. So did you

576
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: guys see that big fatty I found with Maggie last spring?

577
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: One giant morrel, I mean like a giant Look at

578
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: a piece of firewood landing there. So my my point

579
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: with that is that like Iowa is an amazing place

580
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: to go find morales and find big morales. Same thing

581
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: with the bast analogy. If you dumps I'm uh, you know,

582
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: like in southern California and then caught a bass, you

583
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, well, I grew bass. So we'll see. Suspenseful, man,

584
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: I love what I'm gonna say. The jury is still out. Suspenseful.

585
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm dying. No, um, I'm dying for that guy to go. Spencer.

586
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: I can grow a Morrell out of that beard. You

587
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: got growing there, I hope so where you'll believe me now,

588
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: I want to do early plug I'm so I'm so

589
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: proud of the book we're working on that I want

590
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: to start plugging it now, even though it's months and

591
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: months away. Really turned it in yet still finishing it up.

592
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: I think, I predict. I hate to say this kind

593
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: of stuff. I think that I think that it will

594
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: do well. Oh, I think a lot of people will

595
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: be interested in what we've got. We've already gotten several

596
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: emails that you could basically use as blurbs and advertisements

597
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: for it. They haven't seen it, but they have people

598
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: that have like helped you guys on parts of the

599
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: book and being able to read through those parts, and

600
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: they are professionals in that arena of you know, we

601
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: can talk about what the books about, right, yeah, of

602
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: the emergency, you know, or just a h easy meat

603
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: eater's guide to wilderness skills and survival. Let's taken, don't

604
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: use it. It is long. When we did the Guy

605
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: books all those years ago, and we're working on those

606
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: Guy books long time. But we did the Guy Books

607
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: all years ago. We got done and it was seven

608
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: hundred pages long, and I went down to my publisher

609
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: and we had a meeting, and she's like, you know, um,

610
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Speaker 1: short of like the Bible. Uh, if we don't, there

611
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: aren't seven hundred page long books and and uh. She

612
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: was like, either gotta get rid of half of it

613
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: or it's two. And I was like, Hey, we'll just

614
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: make two books. And that's what the guide books became. Yeah,

615
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't even couldn't even estimate

616
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Speaker 1: what our page count would be. I asked Havannah to

617
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Speaker 1: take a stab at it. She thinks that's she thinks

618
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: that we're probably gonna be coming in and around hundred

619
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand words, so twice as long, for instance,

620
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Speaker 1: as American Buffalo. Okay, because I came in about seventy words.

621
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Speaker 1: A big tomb? Is that how you say it? Tom Toms?

622
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Where you putting dead books? Well, I feel like I'm

623
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: ready for a ton It's fitting for either verty of

624
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: this book. Right now, we're in the navigation. Yeah chapter.

625
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: I just wrote a Pulitzer Prize winning section. I don't

626
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: mind saying this myself. I just wrote a Pulitzer prize

627
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: winning section on walking on the ice. Read Nice Frozen

628
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: Lakes rivers ponds read nice, Nice that they could sections

629
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Speaker 1: of books for pullet surprises, because I feel like I'd

630
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: go up against you with the river thing. The river

631
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: just yeah, being on rivers, being on the ice man

632
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: reading it, the noises, it makes what those noises mean.

633
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Watching out for beaver runs freak out. Yeah, watching out

634
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: for beaver runs. But you can fall. I found the

635
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: most times I've fallen through the ice has been related

636
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: to falling into beaver runs. People don't see that. You

637
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: go get a hundred books about this subject, and you

638
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: won't find any of them talking about beaver runs. Spencer.

639
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: You know what I really love about Brody and Steve

640
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: is how humble they are. Well, No, because Spencer has

641
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: taken a few licks in this book. Yeah, he like

642
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: the only person that contribute the stove talking about Yeah,

643
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: you got like a quote or two in there. Spencer's

644
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: been Spencer's contributions to the book have been um. Spencer's

645
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: been doing like his infamous bullshit alerts. But Spencer like

646
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: takes down um like it's very instructive, informative. It's just

647
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: like it's just mounds, mountains and mountains and mountains of information.

648
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: So it's chapters are like um, things that bite, sting,

649
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: mall and kill man. You're giving everything away anyways, Spencer, Uh,

650
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: you think my land too much out and I think

651
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: you gotta have some some thirst for what's coming, just

652
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: like a trailer for a movie. They don't give everything away.

653
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: How many words did you say, Savannah said it is,

654
00:38:54,160 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: I said last night, Well, um uh, she said something

655
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: like one fifty k metric tons. I googled how many

656
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: words per page in a book, and this says per

657
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: one hundred pages, you're looking at about twenty words, So

658
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: then you're looking at like a six Well, I'm just

659
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: like giving you a rough, rough estimate of what Google says.

660
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: You typed in the truth about book length. Yes, yep,

661
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: I did the same, a little bit of research for

662
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: a deal for the Weekend Review because when I had

663
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: fifty episodes and there's uh, you know, how they put

664
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: books together these days has changed quite a bit, and

665
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: what type of font and what's acceptable, and there's there's

666
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: a lot of changes in there. Um. I think good

667
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: lead ins for the chapters, though, it would be are

668
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: you sure you want to get into this? Because people

669
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: are gon be overwhelmed with the amount of knowledge per chapter.

670
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: But it's what But in the book, we take the

671
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: opposite of the bear Girls approach. Bear Girls. This thing

672
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: is like watch out, don't want to be caught outside.

673
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: If you get caught outside, hustle home, right, and to to

674
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: make a show about how quick you can hustle home

675
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: for being outside. This is more like, um about embracing

676
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: it right. And it's not like that. It's oh, it's

677
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: so fearful. It's like, hey, here's some things. But Spencer,

678
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: his contribution has been, Um, are you really supposed to

679
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: snuck suck out sneak venom? Um? Is bear girls always

680
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: drinking piss? Is that helpful? Uh? Are you supposed to

681
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: uh pull the bullet out of your body? After he

682
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: gets a bullet in him? People are gonna look all

683
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: this stuff up now. Good thing, there's more pages to read. Brody.

684
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know you're gonna be so cagey man. You

685
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: think i'd like to keep a wrap on things. Well,

686
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: you know what when we do uhum, when it comes out,

687
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: I'm just we're gonna do like a walk through. This

688
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: is I'm actually turning it like I'm actually turning. It's

689
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: getting close up now, I'm actually developing a little sense

690
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: of enthusiasm and pride project can see the light at

691
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel. Yeah, you've been on a

692
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: real emotional roller coaster in regards to this project. I hate,

693
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: I hate doing stuff. Plus pictures in this book, right, illustrations, illustrations,

694
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: very good illustrations. Is that Pete doing the illustration, same

695
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: illustrator we worked with in the past. Yeah, I want

696
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: a million dollars from Savannah. When she asked me if

697
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: I would possibly have his contact information, possibly like the

698
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: contract and the amount of with stating the amount of

699
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: money that we paid him per illustration from the last projects,

700
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: and uh boy, just had it all tucked away in

701
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: a file, you know, under guide books. Yeah, old, I'll

702
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: see if she'll pay up. That's great his contribution finding

703
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: that helping us find the illustrator's email address. I do.

704
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I do think that is a much healthier approach. Though.

705
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, listen, if at some point in

706
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: your outdoor career you don't find yourself in this position,

707
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: you've probably not been doing things right, so embrace it. Yeah. Yeah, like,

708
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about me chapters. But I don't want

709
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: Brody to get uh nervous. Well, we do mention four

710
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: tens as a survival gun. You want to take a

711
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: stab at what gauge you think before? Oh yeah, just

712
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: so people understand, Brody, that was quality and bring it

713
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: back in the pivot. Yeah, get a little if they

714
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: gave out peel surprises for pivots. Yeah, I'm always this

715
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: year's prize for pivots, Brody Anderson. Go ahead, Steve, take

716
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: a crack at what gauge four? Well, first I want

717
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: to give a couple of points here um one time?

718
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: Uh well for so a gauge when someone says a

719
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: twelve gage shotgun, that means is it would take twelve

720
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: lead spheres of that diameter to make a pound. So

721
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: twenty gage shotgun is it would take twenty lead spheres

722
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: of that size to make a pound. And then you

723
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: got you know, in the old days, you had eight

724
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: gauges that you're in around anymore? There any around. I

725
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: don't even know I ever even laid eyes on an

726
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: eight gauge the biggest Boer shotgun. It's even like kind

727
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: of common. Is a ten gauge, twelve gauge very common?

728
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: And you have sixteens twenties, and then some guys these

729
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: eight Ronnie Bain's got a twenty eight, I believe, And

730
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: then you get down to um. Then there's one that

731
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: breaks the system, and the four ten is a point

732
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: four one oh So the four ten uses the same

733
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: system as rifle calibers. So like a you know, if

734
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: you have a thirty thirty, let's say, let's say a

735
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: three h wind Mega three hund wind megas point three

736
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: oh eight of an inch. All your thirty calibers are

737
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: point three oh eight. They just shortened it up by

738
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: saying thirty, but point three eight four ten is a

739
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: has a you know, diameter of point four one oh

740
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: of an inch. Years ago, I got a death threat

741
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: from an animal rights person and they have threatened to

742
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: come get me with a fifty gage shotgun. And I

743
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: realized that that was about I think it was about

744
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: the size of a BB gun. So I didn't I

745
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: slept well at night. No one that even though I

746
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: might be shot, it would be by a very very

747
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: very small shotgun. So a four ten is take a stab.

748
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: What do you think four ten is a thirty five gauge?

749
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: It's really how'd you figure it out? Looking it up

750
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: the truth about four tens. You're not going to be

751
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: sleeping tonight in case that person is still lurking out

752
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: there with that fifty gauge. Oh yeah, it'd be worse

753
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: than that. I'd be like, whatever, it'll be worse than

754
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: my kids. Well, the FBI checked this dude out anyway. Anyway,

755
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: a dude FBI agent did it on speck. He just

756
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: saw I put a post about it on social media

757
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: and he um uh and he um. Later got to

758
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: hold me and said, I wouldn't worry too much about

759
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: that guy. He's kind of randuring, a raverer. I don't

760
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: wide variety of subjects ranging, he told me, ranging from

761
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: like the Palestinian conflict on down. But apparently the thirties

762
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: the gauge system at six, So at some point they

763
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: must have been making the thirty six gate shotguns. That's yeah,

764
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: a little teeny one and what's the four ten again?

765
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: Sixty seven accord, there's no way on earth according to

766
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: a pile of sixty seven lead balls that size to make,

767
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: according to American Rifleman dot org, which they say, that's

768
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: what they say. It's not like Bob's gun blogged com.

769
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: All right, who am I Well, if that get t

770
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: slugs sometime and way him out, Yeah, well it lad spears?

771
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: Well punkin balls? Do they still make those? Do you

772
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: know the guy that shot the guy that shot Billy

773
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: Billy the kid? Um? No, not the guy who shot

774
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: Pat Garrett in California? No, I'm wrong, guy not Billy,

775
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: the guy who shot the guy who shot Jesse James.

776
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: I believe that. So Robert Ford shot Jesse James, but

777
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: then later a guy shot Robert Ford. I believe the

778
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: guy that shot Robert Ford he had a like he

779
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: had a coach gun. I think it was like a remember,

780
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: I think it was a ten gage coach gun. He

781
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: apparently nearly cut him in half because he took a

782
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: bunch of pipe and a chisel and made a bunch

783
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: of of fragments, steel fragments, No, a lead pipe, a

784
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: bunch of lead fragments, and took a funnel and filled

785
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: the barrels up with pipe fragments and then give them

786
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: both barrels. That'll do that, I guess. Yeah, I think

787
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: that this is true. My understanding is that this is true.

788
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: I also just recently read I'm reading this really interesting

789
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: book called The Um. It's from the sixties, The Frontiersman

790
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: of the Yellowstone it's like a history of Yellowstone. Basin

791
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: talks about two mountain men to beaver trappers that got

792
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: in a dispute and they got real mad at each

793
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: oldren kind of toward their friendship apart, and later their

794
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: friends had to sort of encouraged them to patch it up,

795
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: and they had a kind of tradition where when two

796
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: people made amends, they would shoot a glass of whiskey

797
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: off of each other's heads to sort of prove that

798
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: to to prove that the bad tidings were over. One

799
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: of them puts the glass of whiskey on his head

800
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: and he tells everyone, I don't trust him. I think

801
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna shoot me, and shoots him. And then the

802
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: guy at lo and Behold shoots him between the eyes

803
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: and kills him. Stone dead says, whoops, I made a mistake.

804
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: Didn't mean to nothing happens to him. Later, he gets

805
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: a drink and and opens up to the idea that

806
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't a mistake, at which point the dead

807
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: man's friend pulls out a pistol and blows a hole

808
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: through the guy's heart and kills him. What was the

809
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: original disagreement. I don't think it gets into what the

810
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: disagreement was. Another thing I didn't know until I read

811
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: this book. You know, Hugh Glass at the Revenance base,

812
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: and you know Hugh Glass died he you know, I

813
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: think this was this somewhere along the yellow Stone like

814
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: so like between like here in Miles City. Hugh Glass,

815
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: after all this ship he went through it gets malled

816
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: by the bear. Jim Bridger leaves behind. He finds Bridger

817
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: and a guy named Fitzpatrick and confronts them because they

818
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: left him for dead. Um. They're like like Hugh glaskets

819
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: malled by a grizzly bear, and the rest of their

820
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: crew of trappers splits and they leave Jim Bridger, who's

821
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: like nineteen, and this Fitzpatrick dude. They leave them and say,

822
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: don't leave until he dies. When he dies, you can

823
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: bury him. But they get sick of waiting and they

824
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: just leave, take all of his ship and leave, and

825
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: then he survives and crawls back. Years later he gets

826
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: he's with a couple of other trappers and they get

827
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: into a skirmish. Maybe I think it was with the

828
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: black Feet. They get into a skirmish with the black Feet,

829
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: and they get hold up in a spot and they

830
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: can't shoot their way out of the spot. And eventually

831
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: the black Feet light a grass fire and they know

832
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: they're just gonna get burned alive, and they dropped a

833
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: spark into a powder keg and blew themselves up. That's

834
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: how he died. And you know, me think we got

835
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: it bad. Bro wor who documented this to to like

836
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: report back on That's how they went. That's why I'm

837
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: afraid that it's not true, because I'm telling you things

838
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: that were written in the book in the sixties. It's

839
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: a it's a footnote. It's like a I'm telling you,

840
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: this is the stuff that I'm reading in a book

841
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: from the sixties. When I finished the book, I'll take

842
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: the parts that I'm wondering, like why in the hell

843
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: have I not read that other places and go find

844
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: out if since the sixties we've found that these are

845
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: just tall tales. And much of the hug Glass story,

846
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: like is that, um, I think that he was a

847
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: pirate more cast ashore in the Gulf of Mexico. Well,

848
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: just like more reputable UH historians will say that there's

849
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: a lot of sensational details from Hugh Glasses story. That's

850
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: what I'm afraid of, and that's why I'm trying to

851
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: like asterisk this information for people so they understand that

852
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of a book. I'm reading things

853
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: that I hadn't encountered elsewhere, and I'm suspicious that these

854
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: are tall tales that later historians have said, like, that's

855
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: not true, Brodie, Do you mind it's normally honest's job

856
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: type in how did Hugh Glass Die? And also type

857
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: in four Union shooting whiskey glasses off each other's heads

858
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: the truth about UM, and I didn't even have to

859
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: finish in it. UM. Moving on, Brody had a note

860
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: that he wanted to discuss something Um called the futility

861
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: of yelling at kids to be quiet all day in camp.

862
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're doing your research right now, Brodie. Well,

863
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: I'll pick up on say that thought, because I'm gonna

864
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: pick up on the thing I want to talk about

865
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: is I took my kid out. My kids turned ten

866
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: and became a became of the age that he could

867
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: be legally My older boy became the age that he

868
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: could be legally apprenticed. So I had to go and

869
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: fill out a form online to be come an apprentice. No,

870
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: a mentor. I had to fill out a form online

871
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: to become a mentor hunter. There's no what does that

872
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: mean in the eyes of the state. So in this state,

873
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: when you're twelve, you can get hunting licenses and you

874
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: can hunt. You gotta go to hunter safety. You can

875
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: hunt when you're ten. You can hunt with a mentor.

876
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: The mentor has to be your legal guardian or a

877
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: blood relative right or it doesn't need, or someone of

878
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: or a licensed hunter of legal standing whom the guardian

879
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: has given authority to to take hunting. So if you

880
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: just ran, you ran, you know, encountered some little kid,

881
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: and you said, hey, you wanna go hunt, you couldn't

882
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: take hi hunting. You have to come get me to

883
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: sign a form saying that I am bestowing upon you

884
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: authority to take my ten year old hunting. Any person

885
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: can hunt two years as an an apprentice hunter, and

886
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: then they got to do hunter safety. But the way

887
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: they got set up was like at ten years of age,

888
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: you can become an apprentice hunter and then so he

889
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: can hunt this year and it's like you were within

890
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: army they spelled out. But it's like basically within arm's

891
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: reach of your mentor. Didn't Maggie and Tracy start out

892
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: that way? They had they went they did hunter safety though, so, um,

893
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't let someone really get away with that, Like,

894
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you know. I might even have

895
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: him take hunter safety next summer. But either way, I

896
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: became a mentor. I became a mentor, and he became

897
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: an apprentice, and it's like five bucks, so that you

898
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: could for five bucks he becomes in a apprentice hunter.

899
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: And then unlike fishing, like you know in the last dates,

900
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: you don't need a fishing license till you're what fifteen

901
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, they got to buy the full on license,

902
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: and they can't hunt stuff that has any kind of

903
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: limited draw. They can't hunt bears, basically hunt like deer

904
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: and small game as an as an apprenticed hunter. So

905
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: he turned ten just in time for the last weekend

906
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: of turkey season. We went out, had a good time.

907
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: He got up at four in the morning, three mornings

908
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: in a row, which is cool. Um, we knocked around

909
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: and had a very close encounter with a turkey that

910
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: was I mean, you're gonna think I'm exaggerating the Turkey

911
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: was for me to fill the engineer. But the catch

912
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: is that this entire table was an impenetrable juniper bush

913
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: that if you look really carefully, you could see movement

914
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: through the bush, but you couldn't make hide in your

915
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: hair of it. And I had my kids sitting right

916
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: between my legs because I wanted to be able to

917
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: look down at what he's looking at in him, trying

918
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: to see he's like leaning around, and things got a

919
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: little squirrely, and our line of site wasn't the same

920
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: where I could see a Turkey's fan as he moved

921
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: away from the juniper bush. I can see this a

922
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: little farther way now, but I can see a turn

923
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: he's fan playing his day, and I'm like, hey, if

924
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: you see him, if you see you know, eventually Turkey

925
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: waters off. He doesn't get a shot, and he just

926
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: looks like he's very unhappy. My kid is very unhappy,

927
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: very down on himself. And he said, uh, he I'm

928
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: courting him. He said, I feel like such a loser.

929
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: And I got to ask him, like, what happened? Why

930
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: do you feel like a loser? And he said, I

931
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: thought I didn't recognize I now know that I saw

932
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: the head, but I he wasn't expecting this thing that's

933
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: changing colors from blue to red. And he said he

934
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: saw it and thought it was a flower. Hey, he

935
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: did the right thing. He wasn't sure he saw it

936
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: through the tail fan and he said. It wasn't until

937
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: after the turkey left and I looked at our decoy

938
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: and then I realized that was the head. Man. I

939
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: feel his pain. That's good that he was able to

940
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: look at the decoy and then recognize that that that

941
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: clicked together, he said, he said, I thought He said,

942
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was a flower with a thick stem.

943
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow. And then it occurred to him that he

944
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: was looking through the fan very close a little. But

945
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: in any case, it was lucky we heard any turkeys

946
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: with the amount of noise and camp. Yeah, I got

947
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: Brody gout the camp. I got to the camp. I

948
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: started yelling at all the kids to be quiet. Brody's like,

949
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: I already gave up on that. Yeah, but we got

950
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: into him anyway. How far were you? It was like

951
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: eight fifty yards at one I could hear him screaming

952
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: and yelling. And I got out on X and I

953
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: had the camp marks and I knew where I was,

954
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: and I did the line distance function that was eight

955
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: hundred thirty three yards a loud, and my kid kept saying,

956
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: my boy, my little boys, like I could hear Rosie

957
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: and Matt, but you can't hear Rosie and Matt. You

958
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 1: know why, don't Like, by god, you can hear ros

959
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: three yards away. Maybe that puts those turkeys at ease. Well,

960
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 1: two years in a row, including this year, they shot

961
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: gobbled turkeys by playing. But I don't think it's I

962
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's like beneficial. I think you created ever

963
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: increasingly wide area of animals animalss area around you. Um,

964
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: we were definitely thinking about relocate. We've been kind of

965
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: pushing camp in closer and closer to the turkeys over

966
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: the last five years, and I think next year we're

967
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna be marching back retreating because because my girls have

968
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: gotten louder. I think that early on they were they

969
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: would yell in whatever, but they were smaller, the didn't

970
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: have lungs, they didn't have lungs, And now it's the

971
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, I remember being like basically in

972
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: the next valley and being like there's no way, but

973
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: then sure enough, like one still night. I'm sitting there

974
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 1: and I got the dog with me, and he keeps

975
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: running like fifty yards and then sitting there and looking

976
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: in that direction, and finally I'm like, oh yeah, he

977
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: can hear everybody back there camp. I mean we were

978
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: like a thirty minute walk. You know, when we're out filming,

979
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: we try to and we got lacked. We get we lapsed.

980
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: Then we come back to it. But we have this

981
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: thing that this ideal that we have and we try

982
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: to a little bit stick with it is what we

983
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: call the Mkuschi Code of silence because the mkushi um

984
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: an indigenous group in South America, they don't yell. They

985
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: don't yell. If someone's down at the boat down at

986
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: the river and you're like at camp and you're like,

987
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: oh man, he should grab hope he grabs the big pot, right,

988
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: I would be like, hey, grab the big pot. What

989
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: the big pot? Right? And that's just how you go

990
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: about your business. They would um walk down until their

991
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: faces were twelve inches apart, and you would say, grab

992
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: the big They never make noise. They don't yell, they

993
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: don't make noise. Maybe a tree was falling on the

994
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: divide out, but they don't make noise for what reason?

995
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: Because they're hunters. They don't make noise. It's just quiet,

996
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: just ingrained into the way they speak. They speak to

997
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: people only that are right there. They don't communicate to

998
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: people that are far away. When I want my kids

999
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: to come down to eat, I don't move five or six,

1000
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: five or six times if you need to, I don't

1001
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: move anywhere I can walk over there. I'm just gonna

1002
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: scream nine times with increasing intensity. So yeah, they were allowed.

1003
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: Another observation was just brody, was one? Tell mebut you

1004
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: know how you mere a minute? Man? Oh god dah man. Frustrating,

1005
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: isn't it like? It never seems like And maybe this

1006
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: is like people that just aren't dialed into a certain system,

1007
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: or they don't feel the urgency that we feel. But man,

1008
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: people take a long time to get ready. Adults, don't

1009
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: your kids? Yeah, even adults, And yeah, kids, I like,

1010
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: I'll I'll stick Hayden in the sleeping bag, in his

1011
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: sleeping glows, shake him and say let's go. And he's

1012
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: pretty good about getting up early. That was your trick. Yeah,

1013
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: get him, just slam him sleep in their clothes so

1014
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: you get him already. I was wondering how he's ready

1015
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: so fast. Oh yeah, just yank him. He's all like,

1016
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: just drag him out of the area. But yeah, adults

1017
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: just like don't. But you're talking about getting ready for

1018
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: to go hunting, yeah, or really whatever, but sure, yeah,

1019
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: it's like getting light. You should have been sitting under

1020
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: the tree half an hour ago and you haven't even

1021
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: left camp yet or whatever. Yeah. There was one afternoon

1022
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: when when um me and my wife are gonna go

1023
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: out and listen for gobbles, and uh, Brody's wife offered

1024
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: to let us leave our young uns there, and so

1025
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: I was like very like like I'm a minute man,

1026
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: I was like very ready to go. I'm like ready

1027
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: for the American Revolution one by air, one by land two.

1028
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: If I see who's that guy, Paul Revere? You know what?

1029
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: Historians later tried to say that Paul Revere wasn't real.

1030
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember who the politician was, but he said

1031
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: I love Paul Revere, whether he wrote or not. Ah. Anyhow,

1032
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: I would not then look at my wife because I

1033
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 1: was like why, like what what what is like? Why

1034
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: why haven't we left? Why is it now so much

1035
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: longer later and we haven't left? And I would like

1036
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: try to look at her in like distinct moments, and

1037
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: in every distinct moment it did, in fact seem like

1038
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: something was happening, Like she wasn't sitting there. I'd be like, like,

1039
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: what is she doing? And I try to like look

1040
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: at her and like, oh, she is looking for one

1041
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: of the kids shoes. You know. Then I would like

1042
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: then twenty minutes to go by, and I'd look at

1043
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: her and be like, oh she is. But so all

1044
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: the parts make sense, but the some of them doesn't

1045
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: make sense that how am I ready for an hour? Yep?

1046
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: And you get like a group of people who don't

1047
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: feel that urgency, and it just makes it even worse

1048
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: because they look around and she knows that I'm irritated

1049
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: cause I'm just generally irritated about wanting to go, and

1050
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't care if he's irritated. And since

1051
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: the other people that are doing something, they don't, they're

1052
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: also wandering around, so it must be okay to keep

1053
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: wandering around. And then you wait an hour and she'll

1054
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: find me right and she'll be like, we should get

1055
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: the kids lunch. Yeah, I was gonna say. The other

1056
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: perspectives could be that, like, damn, Stephen Brody would be nice.

1057
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: They just helped me find this other shoe and then

1058
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: we could get them out of here and knocked out,

1059
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, and then we can all get out of here. Instead,

1060
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: those two are just standing over there with their hands

1061
01:02:53,880 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: in their pockets, going hurrying down. I know, no we

1062
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: for the first time, I think it's an age thing.

1063
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: Is I crossed some threshold now where I'm like, I

1064
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: don't even care about food, coffee, anything. I will just sleep.

1065
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: And I started doing the pants things harder woodpecker lips.

1066
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: I'll just sleep in the pants, put my boots on.

1067
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: I usually always take my socks off. I don't sleep

1068
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: good if I had my socks on my sleeping bag.

1069
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: But that way, I'm just like, I wake up, I'm

1070
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: still blurry eyed. I'm just like Genever you kind of ready.

1071
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: She's like, oh yeah, and we just no coffee, no food, nothing,

1072
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: put the turkey vest on and just start walking down

1073
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: the road and you'll wake up. But you know, your

1074
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: body starts moving. You wake up and you're fine, and

1075
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: you just you start to realize that you don't really

1076
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: need to hang out at camp and it's not You're

1077
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy that cup of coffee. It's gonna burn your burn,

1078
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: your lips and your tongue is you're trying to pound

1079
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: boiling bean wash. Yeah, you could just put like um yeah, yeah,

1080
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: but a bar in my pocket, Put some bars night before,

1081
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: put some bars in your turkey vest, put an energy

1082
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: drink in your turkey vest. Go to sleep in your

1083
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: turkey clothes and just leave. Yeah. And later in the season, man,

1084
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: holy sh it, it gets late early. Yeah, right now, brutal. Yeah.

1085
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: One guy last week and can't kill the bird at

1086
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: like five oh five, kill seven something like that. I

1087
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: killed my last weekend. I got a tax. Some brody.

1088
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: I was laying in bed petting my dog, and we

1089
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: get up. I get up as soon as I can

1090
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: see the glow in the window. Man, I get up,

1091
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: and I was laying there. I just it was just

1092
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: literally enough. I left the dog and on the bed

1093
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: and I got a tax. Some brody was like, what

1094
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: the hell? Early? Yeah. I almost thought you shot it

1095
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: out of the tree. No, it was fifteen minutes after

1096
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: he flew down. Turkey hunting, you can't really do it.

1097
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: But a system that I like during big game season

1098
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: is to roll out get hiking, get out to where

1099
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna glass, and then boil up a cup coffee

1100
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: and have my my scene all set up and ms

1101
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: on plas and I'm got my butt pad out. I've

1102
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: probably already pooped at this point. I'm drinking a cup

1103
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: of coffee and I'm just just peel on that place

1104
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: apart and it and the sun's coming up. You can

1105
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: take pictures of at sunrise that you'll never ever see again,

1106
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: but you gotta do because it's so pretty. It's a

1107
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: great situation, stress free. Man. We've done a few little

1108
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: mountain tricks like that, like another mountain trick that we

1109
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: kind of we try. We do a bit more filming.

1110
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: Two is too. When it's when the times like this,

1111
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: we just we did this. Yeah. Uh, when it's like

1112
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: you gott get up so damn early. You gotta got

1113
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: three thirty four in the morning. You'll be up at

1114
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: first light and then it doesn't get dark. You know

1115
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: you're you're you're still hunting at ninety. Um is to

1116
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: bring your gear, to bring a stove and some freeze

1117
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: dry and just eat it five. I just told us

1118
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: off in the backpack, so eat at five glass or whatever.

1119
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: Through the hunt through the prime time evening and then

1120
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: come home and you already eight. Yes, they just slide

1121
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: in your bed instead of like getting in at nine

1122
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: thirty weighing out whether or not you want to eat

1123
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: or not, in order to then get up at four

1124
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: in the morning. It's a lot nicer us to get

1125
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: it taken care of. I agreed. And another thing is

1126
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: sometimes we've gotten up in the morning, just brought our

1127
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: sleeping bags and get up to a glass and spot,

1128
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: and then get back in your sleeping bag and make

1129
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: some coffee up in your glass and spot. That's big game, Yanni.

1130
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: Can you share with everybody what had with your your

1131
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: little truck thing? This is an interesting story. Oh yeah,

1132
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: well with my brother in law's struck, I think it's uh,

1133
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: I hate bad talk the old Toyota tundra, but it's

1134
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: a Toyota tundra. And um. Of course, when we talked

1135
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: to the mechanic, he's like, I swear to you, this

1136
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: is the first alternator I've ever changed on one of

1137
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: these tundras. Anyways, Yeah, they had gone him and his

1138
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: son had gone up to charge some devices and get

1139
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: some service, and they kind of left camp and drove

1140
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: up the hill. Maybe not far. I don't know, it's

1141
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: like a quarter mile, like charging sternal batteries and whatnot. Yeah,

1142
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: external batteries, telephones, kindles, whatever else. And uh, they're sitting

1143
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: there and you know, prior to that, we had seen

1144
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: a minor bit of smoke um coming out of the engine,

1145
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: like on the trip in, and he had said he's

1146
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: seen it the day before. But to me, I saw

1147
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: it was so little and I smelled it. There wasn't

1148
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: really like a bad smell, and I'm like, you got

1149
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: some mud kicked up in there. It got hot and

1150
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: it smoked, you know. Yeah, we're on in eastern Montana. Anyways,

1151
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: they're sitting up there, charging away, and he just happens

1152
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: to be looking down at the dash as all of

1153
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: the gauges flipped from you know, one end to the

1154
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: other end, back and forth twice, and then I think

1155
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: the engines running and basically the truck shutters and everything

1156
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: just windows are wide open and there's nothing nothing. He

1157
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: can't do anything. I think he could turn the key,

1158
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: but there was no lights. This absolutely couldn't change gears in.

1159
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: It couldn't. Yeah, yeah, I guess you have to have

1160
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: power to shift. But um, I learned a lot. I

1161
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: learned that in at least in that um those years

1162
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: of Toyota tundras, there's a little square box probably not

1163
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: even an inch by inch um right next to the

1164
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: gear shifter, and you can it's basically like a little

1165
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: lid and you pop that out and that's what's in there,

1166
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: and you can take a pen and push it down

1167
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: and then that allows you to change gears boxes. Yeah,

1168
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: it's not a bot, I mean, like I said, but

1169
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: you can put no I've seen those. I've never pride

1170
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: one open. Yeah, that's what's in there. So at least

1171
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: when when we figured that out, we knew we could

1172
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: at least I could pull him down the mountain because

1173
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: we're probably I don't know, five seven miles, had no idea.

1174
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: That's what's the netla on an unimproved dirt road. So

1175
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: at least I could pull them out and then a

1176
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: mechanic could or a toe truck can meet us. Um So,

1177
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: but when we realized so I'm trying to think, I

1178
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: don't know. We were getting a lot of advice from

1179
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people and a different advice on on

1180
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: what to do, but finally own guy says, you know,

1181
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: what you need to do is bypass the alternator. If

1182
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: you it sounds like you blew the alternator. If you

1183
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: unhooked the alternator, charge up your battery. Your battery should

1184
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: have enough juice in it to let you run the

1185
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: vehicle for ten to twenty minutes until it dies again.

1186
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: And then you just pop the trunk, you know, and

1187
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: recharge your battery and keep driving until you get to

1188
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: where you need to get going. And sure enough that worked.

1189
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: So what did you do to bridge the gap once

1190
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: you pull the alternator out? We just unhooked the alternator.

1191
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: That was it. You don't need to liken, No, we

1192
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: just really, you know, tape the ends of those uh

1193
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: wires so that you wouldn't ground out on anything, you know,

1194
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: if it touched. But that was it. Um and uh yeah,

1195
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: so we were able to drive out and then uh

1196
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: we had we had a mechanic meet us. The mechanic

1197
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: drove two hours to get there and then installed the

1198
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: new alternator in a belt and a couple other things.

1199
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: Ate himself a crisp Oh yeah, he had a good payday.

1200
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: He had a good but I think it was cheaper

1201
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: than having it Toad are we allowed to say? Yeah? Yeah,

1202
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: but I think getting told short here because what do

1203
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's like you don't have

1204
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: a whole lot of options. But I mean, look, if

1205
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: you're a chief skate, you could probably limp your way home.

1206
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: And the method I just described by by charge eight

1207
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: lottery driving thirty minutes down the highway, pull when it,

1208
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: when it shuts down, pull over, recharge the battery. It's

1209
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: safe to do that. Yeah, right, that system though, I

1210
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: mean you had to have been feeling good for driving

1211
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: your truck out of that hole. Oh yeah. We had

1212
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: some Yeah, we had some major wins. And at the

1213
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: same time we managed to kill a couple of turkeys.

1214
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: So yeah. We had an Australian once blow a hole

1215
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: through the floorboards of a pickup truck with a shotgun

1216
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: and severed the fuel line and we had to tow

1217
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: it twenty miles out of a Donna riverbed. And that

1218
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 1: was a Bounty riverbed. It was a real bouncing I

1219
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: wasn't there, but I remember that the episode. It was

1220
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: in Australia. No, it was Australian abroad. He was in

1221
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: New Zealand, New Zealand. But they're not allowed to play

1222
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: with guns that much in Australia, so he's real curious

1223
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: about a shotgun. He's trying to figure out how it worked.

1224
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: He's wishing he had your protection and to touch one

1225
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: off in a inside of a vehicle. Oh horrible. Oh yeah,

1226
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: but Brody made a note that I didn't check back

1227
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 1: in with you guys after, so we were starting to

1228
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: make plans on how we're gonna get everybody out of there,

1229
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: because we had two full calling in the cavalry, but

1230
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: they're not calling off the cavalry. Yeah. Well, the that place,

1231
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: I think you guys had it similarly after I talked

1232
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: to your wife. But it'd be like one minute you

1233
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: can like just make all the phone calls you want

1234
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: to be working tax and then for the next twelve

1235
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: hours it's like there's nothing only that. But when people

1236
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: would call you, it actually you got a new phone

1237
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: number or something, so it could be like the knock

1238
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: can't It wouldn't just be like busy or not answer.

1239
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: It would be that it's like it tells you like,

1240
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: hey man, you know number can't be completed as dialed, right,

1241
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: And so it made like I was trying to call

1242
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: my brother at one point I thought something. I was like,

1243
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: oh something, what happened. We had a big debate, so

1244
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: I I tried, I didn't try. I actually you can

1245
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: look at my text history and see that didn't go through.

1246
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: It was more about the debate that we had whether

1247
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: we should just go home or wait to hear from

1248
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: what we made. Me and Brodie didn't want to be um.

1249
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: Me and Brodie were trying to wash our hands in

1250
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 1: the matter. So I eventually said to Brodie's wife, I

1251
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: was like, so you're saying that we should take off,

1252
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: and then Stee's wife backed her up, because if this

1253
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: blows up, just blows up in our faces. I don't

1254
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: want to be I thought we should take off. I

1255
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: wanted to be there. I wanted to stay. And Carry's like, sure, okay,

1256
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying let's go, just like I'll live with it

1257
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Body. Yeah, and then you so, Yahni,

1258
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: you're now depressed. Yeah, it happens every year. I feel

1259
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: like last year I got I got just enough turkey

1260
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: hunting in and um it went all the way to

1261
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: the end of May, and afterwards, I just you know,

1262
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: happily put everything up, put all those breasts into my

1263
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: freezer and and uh just went about, you know, looking

1264
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: towards fishing or whatever. And uh but uh, and I

1265
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't complain too much because I still killed five birds

1266
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: and I got you know, some hunting days in. But

1267
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: I just had you know, great big plans and old

1268
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen shot holes in my like you were supposed

1269
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: to be able to hunt Turkey's will primo, that's right.

1270
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: Who else? I don't know. We were supposed to go

1271
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: to Michigan and maybe Wisconsin. I still have half of mind.

1272
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: It probably pissed some people off, but you got. My

1273
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: wife's out next week, so I have the kids anyways,

1274
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, Wisconsin seasons open through Tuesday, so

1275
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: if I leave tomorrow, they're doing an extension. No, it's yeah.

1276
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: So if I left tomorrow, i'd have three days. Oh

1277
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: I love and you can kill what one a day there?

1278
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: You can kill as many as you have tags for.

1279
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know. That's there's a lot of other

1280
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: things that need my attention to. But man, had I

1281
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: not just solidified some fishing plans, i'd be fueling that fire.

1282
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nice, because then we could just we wouldn't

1283
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: have to stop because it's just a long enough drive

1284
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: where I'll probably have to take a nap somewhere and there. Hey,

1285
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: have we have we have we covered? Have we talked

1286
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: about the male the rough grouse finding? No? Definitely, I

1287
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: think that I have made a scientific discovery. Well as

1288
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: well Yan has made a scientific Discoverybody told me about it. Well,

1289
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: I to forget who someone's tent was right next to

1290
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: my tent, seth. I think both of us got that

1291
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: discovered that I did not a rough grouse. They do

1292
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: it all year round. Rough grouse drum and when a

1293
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: rough grouse is drumming, he takes he gets up on

1294
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: a log, gets about a perch and beats his wings

1295
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: on his body and it makes this noise. One might

1296
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 1: think this is straight from YouTube. The thumps are produced

1297
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: by the beating of the wings. Oh yeah, it was

1298
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: like he's doing in his throat, but he's also beating

1299
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: his wing in an actuality. The thumps are little sonic

1300
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: booms created his air suddenly fills a vacuum made when

1301
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: the wings are thrust outward from the breast. I would

1302
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: amend that's the same thing, though to say one might

1303
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: think the thumps are made by a little Honda generator

1304
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: because when I played again, Phil, I remember when my

1305
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: brother Matt turned twelve and he had to go sit

1306
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: in his own tree stand. He couldn't sit up in

1307
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: dad's tree stand anymore with him. I was. Then I

1308
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: went and sat with Matt and his tree stand. So

1309
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: he was twelve, I was nine or eight, and I

1310
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: remember sitting. I could take you and show you the

1311
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: exact Dame tree we're sitting in. Remember sitting there and

1312
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: he listening to a grouse, a rough grouse drumming. I

1313
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: was staying earlier. They they'll drum all your I don't

1314
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: all year, but they drum all around. But they really

1315
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: like to drum in the spring because it's like a

1316
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: territorial thing. Anyways, I remember saying to my brother Matt, oh,

1317
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: that guy finally got that lawnmower running, or that guy

1318
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: can't get that lawnmower running, or something in him saying

1319
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: that's a rough grouse because it's like a guy trying

1320
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: to get an old beater lawnmower gone. Uh. There's a

1321
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: thing in rough grouse biology where there's a drumming log

1322
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: and people will even when when assessing habitat or when

1323
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: um trying to get population estimates. There's even a thing

1324
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,919
Speaker 1: of like using drumming logs as a way to assess habitat,

1325
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: being that there could be suitable rough grouse habitat that

1326
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: is in fact not suitable due to a lack of

1327
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: drumming logs. I never knew that they drummed at night,

1328
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: but we the other night had a rough gruff grouse

1329
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: drum all night. Bios. Not only that, Not only that,

1330
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: but that's son of a bit is out walking around

1331
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: at night, going from spot to spot to spot drumming.

1332
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: You want to talk about a vulnerable bird, man, Hold

1333
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: on there, They moved from one spot to another. Yes,

1334
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: that bird moved around at night. Yeah, we had the

1335
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: same thing. Happened a couple of weeks ago when we

1336
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: were camping. He would go from he went from one

1337
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: spot to another. It woke me up at two thirty.

1338
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, I'm late. I gotta you know.

1339
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was morning. He just kept going. No,

1340
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I didn't know that he moved. Yeah,

1341
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: we went from like our tents over to your tents.

1342
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: Is he hoping that it pays off that night? Like

1343
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: if female is going to confine him or is he

1344
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: just like planning for tomorrow morning. Well he's it's like

1345
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: territorial too. He's like saying, like, this is my spot.

1346
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: I just read on all about which comes out of

1347
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Cornell Ornithology, and that you want to find out bird

1348
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: I was just quick plug. You want to find out

1349
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: the dope on birds, go to Cornell? Absolutely yea um,

1350
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: although they didn't have that. I just that I read

1351
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: to you about the vacuum sonic boom. But it's saying

1352
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: that it will also do this drumming on moonlitch nights,

1353
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 1: which it was when we were out there every night

1354
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: thing and just when there's visibility that it was a

1355
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: bright night, it was. It was so bright you could

1356
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: see the moon like it was looked like someone was

1357
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: holding a flashlight outside your tent. Huh, forty six years

1358
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: on this planet and I hadn't had a rough grouse

1359
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: drumming all night? Yeah? What else? What else is interesting

1360
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: is that that little sequence only last eight seconds? And

1361
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: how many times do you think he moves his wings

1362
01:19:54,640 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: in those eight seconds? No, not the one I heard?

1363
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because that little end explosion. Oh yeah, like

1364
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: oh it died again? Man m yeah, that bagger was

1365
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: you would think that annoys like someone else was saying.

1366
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: It was Garrett that was saying. He's like, yeah, first

1367
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: it's like real calming and nice, like listening to the

1368
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: stream trickle by, you know, the rough grouss drumming, and

1369
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: then an hour later he's ready to strangle that that bird,

1370
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 1: didn't you guys say you could like hear it dragging

1371
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: its wings on the ground or something. Right, Well, we

1372
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: got into our tents. Yeah, you know, you could hear

1373
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: him like literally walking in the leaves, like I mean,

1374
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: probably a foot or two from my head. Yeah, and

1375
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: they're just happened to be from there, kind of perpendicular

1376
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: going out a giant you know, I don't know. At

1377
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: one end it was probably eighteen inches. At the far

1378
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: end it was three ft diameter log that took days

1379
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: to shoot it over. The main thing were supposed to

1380
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: talk about, Oh yeah, we got thing. Yeah, and then

1381
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: I gotta get it was so important I put it

1382
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: down at the bottom of my notes. I gotta get

1383
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: a closing thought too, but we'll get to that later.

1384
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: So did it happen, cal did it happen? Well, well,

1385
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: damn sure, better happened now everybody's talking about it. So

1386
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: what happened last night take it away is the word

1387
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: has been spread that when and there, there's all sorts

1388
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: that you know, everybody likes, say political feater these days,

1389
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: but it's all that's that's what they do back there,

1390
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: So it's it's not nobody should be shocked. Um, the

1391
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: word is out that when Congress returns from its recess

1392
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: for the Memorial Day break more Memorial Day weekend break,

1393
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell is going to lead with the Great American

1394
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: Outdoors Act, which is something that we've talked about a

1395
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: bunch and it had a bunch of steam, and I,

1396
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: for one, was was very concerned on how this was

1397
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: gonna fair with um, you know, all of a sudden

1398
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: getting slapped with this pandemic life and COVID and UH

1399
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: bailouts UH around COVID, and we went from you know,

1400
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: economy kicking ass and everybody's got jobs and now we

1401
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: have some serious unemployment in the country for the first Yeah,

1402
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: and I treated just like my Turkey season. It did.

1403
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: It did. It went went from the number one priority

1404
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: to boy, I hope I get around to that. Can

1405
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: you give it a first give the cliff note version

1406
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: of what it is. Yeah, so the Great American Outdoors

1407
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: Act is how bills get past these days. It's not

1408
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: an individual bill, it's it's a package. UM that the

1409
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: major points of this package, UH, Land and Water Conservation Fund,

1410
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: which has just been man if you've ever been interested

1411
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: in conservation. Land Water Conservation Fund is something that's been

1412
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: talked about forever and it's been a battle. But that

1413
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: is a fund that basically takes a tax off of

1414
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: offshore oil and gas revenues and earmarks that cash specifically

1415
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: for access programs, conservation programs UM and then individual states

1416
01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: and agencies and UM and uh, you know it's available

1417
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: for private land as well. Can't apply for l w

1418
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: CF matching grants for projects UM. And some people dog

1419
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: on it with this like horrible argument of like, yeah,

1420
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: you know that really nice bike path that uh is

1421
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: in my little tiny small town that's l w CF funds.

1422
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: What does that do for me? Um? It gaus people

1423
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: that you live around never really nice bike path? Yeah,

1424
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean like really like dragging, Like was it like

1425
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: they should have divided up the money by everybody in

1426
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: the community and given everyone like a dollar. Yeah, it's

1427
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: just like questions like he doesn't this guy right, but um,

1428
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: lots of city parks, UM, some boat ramps, all sorts

1429
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: of different types of access. But I once heard, I

1430
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: don't know that's true or NOTO. I once heard that

1431
01:24:53,040 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: every county in America has had an LWCF project. Boy,

1432
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would lay it on the

1433
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: line to say every county but you and mind, Alaska

1434
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 1: doesn't do counties. Every absolutely every state, no, no question whatsoever. Um. So,

1435
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: but there's always been this battle to have UM both

1436
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: LWCF authorized and funded at the same time, which is

1437
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: something that we've really struggled with. UM. LWCF is in

1438
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: the Great American Outdoors Act. Um, We're sorry. Funding full

1439
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: and permanent funding of LWCF is in the Great American Outdoor.

1440
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: Is that that's where the LWCF then gets super complicated.

1441
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: It's like there's authorizing it. Yeah. So basically like Cal's like,

1442
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: hey man, I want I wanna buy pack of gum,

1443
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, uh, yes, you can buy a pack

1444
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: of gum, and its like bunny to mind to buy

1445
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: the gump And then you would say, well, that's great,

1446
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 1: and that's not my department cal has been all the

1447
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: rise to buy gum, but doesn't have the money to

1448
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: buy gum. So then I'd go to Joannice as the

1449
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: chair of the House Appropriations Committee, and I'd say, Yannice,

1450
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,560
Speaker 1: Steve over here has told me that it's okay to

1451
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: buy a pack of gum. And the pack of gum

1452
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: is a really nice pack of gum, and it costs

1453
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: this much. That's what I've come to ask you for.

1454
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: And Joannice would say, is it really that nice pack

1455
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: of gum? Do you really need? No? We could we

1456
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: can improve this because I say, you say, um, I

1457
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: need to buy a pack of gum. Uh, in my

1458
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: budgets a dollar, I'm allowed to spend a dollar on

1459
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: going And I'm like, yes, I authorized you spend dollar

1460
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: on gum. Then you go to Honest and say, well

1461
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: I need that dollar because I've been authorized spend a

1462
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: dollar and com yeah, it's like I get ten cents. Yeah,

1463
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of people need a dollar kid um.

1464
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: So yes, LBC have full impermanent funding is in the

1465
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: Great American out or Is Act. The other thing and

1466
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: this is when they say full full funding is nine

1467
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: million year, right, But that that is for these specific projects,

1468
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: which just gave me that money, um that people have

1469
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: to apply for. So it's not yeah, it's I mean,

1470
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: it's it's a cool thing. It has helped everyone, whether

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01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: you're in a major city center or not, or very

1472
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: rural town. But they do there's a lot of checks

1473
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,839
Speaker 1: and balances to make sure that that money gets spread

1474
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: around so that every county thing may very well be true.

1475
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: Uh you know that there's just a lot of counties

1476
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 1: out there. So but a lot of other stuff has

1477
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: been rolled into the Act, right. Yes. The major thing

1478
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: that I think is pretty darn neat is again it's

1479
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: kind of a weird twist because of the way the

1480
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: economy has gone and the jobless rate in America has gone.

1481
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: Here since people were starting to be like, oh boy,

1482
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: Great American Outdoors Act could have some steam. You know.

1483
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: President Trump was tweeting about l WCF, which is part

1484
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: of the Great American Outdoors Act. Um. Uh. Senator Dan's

1485
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: here in Montana. Senator Cory Gardner uh in Colorado have

1486
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: uh you know co signed um uh, you know co

1487
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: sponsored the Great American Outdoors Act. All this like good stuff.

1488
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: Fifty three co signers in addition to the first seven

1489
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: you want to be confusing books. So there's fifty nine

1490
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: co signers officially, um, which is which is a big deal. Uh,

1491
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans and Democrats on there. And then uh,

1492
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: but like I said, this odd thing going from the

1493
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: steam the momentum of like okay, this could happen, and

1494
01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's like, oh my god,

1495
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: we need like really funding in this pandemic. And it

1496
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 1: just made me very nervous. Tax revenues are going to

1497
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: go down, and then the oil and then oil leases

1498
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: are going to go down. Yes, Um, well there is

1499
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: funding in the Grand American Outdoors Act for this huge

1500
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: national parks backlog and a lot of folks and I

1501
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: think you were kind of one of them. You're like

1502
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: national parks. I don't play that much in national parks

1503
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: because that's where all the people go. Um, well there's

1504
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: a big push too. Then say, well, listen, we can

1505
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:39,759
Speaker 1: put a lot of the funding towards national parks backlog,

1506
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: but we also have maintenance backlogs on blm US, Fish

1507
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: and Wildlife, Ground, Bureau of Reclamation, UM, Bureau of Indian Education,

1508
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: and so now, uh, there is dedicated funding to address

1509
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: National Park Service still gets the kind of lion's share,

1510
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 1: but then US four A service, BLM, Bureau of Reclamation,

1511
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Bureau of Indian Education. So, uh, wasn't it that the

1512
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: service gets and then the rest of it was split up?

1513
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: I think five us F S five five. I think

1514
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:26,919
Speaker 1: that's right. I think that's right. Yeah, specifically for maintenance.

1515
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: But then the neat thing when I keep going back

1516
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: to the job side of this is, uh, you know,

1517
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: we have changed from like the U. S four Service

1518
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: having a crew to do everything to where they hire

1519
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: out contractors to do a lot of this maintenance. National

1520
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: Park Service the exact same way, US Fish and Wildlife

1521
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: same way. So it's like infrastructure spending. Yeah, and we

1522
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: have a bunch of dedicated funding in this that will

1523
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: be paying contractors to do this work. So there's a

1524
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: lot of bill jobs in this thing, which the timing

1525
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: of that with what's going on right now is is

1526
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 1: a really cool thing. So, but we're still at this

1527
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: moment talking about something that really should probably happen on Tuesday,

1528
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: so sorry next month rather um. Yeah. So Mitch McConnell,

1529
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 1: he has said he's bringing it out when we come

1530
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: back in session after the break. Um, there is a

1531
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: little uncertainty because there's not this supermajority that can carry

1532
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: the vote with through a detail. Right. Um. The you know,

1533
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: this has been controversial stuff because you know, people are antipers.

1534
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: You know, some people are anti spending on public lands.

1535
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: But the other kind of interesting thing here is one

1536
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: of the things that has been very consistent for folks

1537
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,839
Speaker 1: in this weird time of getting some of our freedoms,

1538
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: like hey, you really shouldn't do that in the time

1539
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: of COVID for the general welfare everybody, well, one thing

1540
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 1: everybody for the most part it's been able to do

1541
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: is go outside and exercise outside. UH. And a lot

1542
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: of people have now found a renewed passion for being outside.

1543
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: If you talk to our state agencies, with which again

1544
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot participation across the board in fishing, hunting, camping,

1545
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: outdoor recreation has been adding an all time high, UH.

1546
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: If you want to get back into it. My favorite

1547
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 1: subject tag allocation. I was talking to my friends in

1548
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: Idaho and they're like, oh, ma'am, UH would have been

1549
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 1: real hired to draw a tag this year because we've

1550
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: had record breaking submissions for UH draw tags. Yeah, I

1551
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: heard the same thing. I heard an interesting number yesterday.

1552
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: UM Minnesota year to date their fishing license sales up.

1553
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: No way, Wow, that's scary. Are getting out again. The

1554
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 1: stage is set. That's really something. So the so we

1555
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: need to do this thing, man, because you got people

1556
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: want to get out. We gotta be ready for him,

1557
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:31,600
Speaker 1: even the National park people. Yeah, and like this is

1558
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: something that has a bunch of jobs built in. It's

1559
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: got a bunch of needs that we need to take

1560
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: care of built in. If you think there's too many

1561
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 1: people out there recreating, with more people out buying fishing licenses,

1562
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 1: uh LWCF, you know, take some time, but it can

1563
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: help spread out people by providing more access. There's a

1564
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: lot of really good stuff in here, and it takes

1565
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: so much freaking work and time to get one of

1566
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: these packages that you know is not uh a defense

1567
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: contract or all these other things that seem to take

1568
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:17,879
Speaker 1: take precedence UH to the floor. You know, people are saying,

1569
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: call your representatives, call your representatives, call them, throw them

1570
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: into a stranglehold, man. Yeah, just just explain to them

1571
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: what do you do? Yeah, come on, how much time

1572
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: you spend out there, how much money you spend out there,

1573
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: taking the family outside. It's a big deal. And the

1574
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: times now stay. If you want to sit on your stuff,

1575
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: uh and not talk about conservation stuff or or or

1576
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 1: pretending like you care, just make make one phone call

1577
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: on this and then you can be like, Yeah, that

1578
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: biggest thing that's ever come around in our lifetime. I

1579
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: was a part of that. I made a phone call

1580
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: and told vote for it. That would be a good time,

1581
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: still would be help even though around the cusps, but

1582
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: still be helpful, just to give it the extra umph. Yeah, yep,

1583
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: you can go uh and check out the actual bill.

1584
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: It'll tell you who's already CO signed. Um, yeah you can.

1585
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: You can your guys out on there. You got your

1586
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 1: woman's honor. You can give them the heat. You can

1587
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: give them heat. But also call those people that av

1588
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: CO signed and say thank you. They need to hear

1589
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: that stuff too. They never hear thank you enough that

1590
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, people in Michigan are showing up at the

1591
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: state capital armed because they want to get some of

1592
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: the restrictions eased. Yea, how can people don't show up

1593
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 1: armed about the LWCF down there? Man? I had too

1594
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: many acronyms, I guess I don't know. Yeah. Um, so yeah,

1595
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 1: this this is a big one. Call Call your representative,

1596
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 1: tell them you want them to pass the Great American

1597
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: Outdoors Act. Do you feel cal you're a cynical man. Yep,

1598
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: that's true. Um, you're a skeptical man and a cynical man.

1599
01:35:55,120 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: My favorite quote being, Uh, skepticism is the chast t

1600
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: of the intellect. But you're a cynical man. Do you

1601
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: feel that calling your representatives? Are you just twiddling your

1602
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: thumbs when you call your representative? Scale No, No, I

1603
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think it has the impact

1604
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: that you want it to. Like I feel oftentimes, Uh,

1605
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: even if you have your ducks in her own you

1606
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 1: tell this awesome story and and you make that AID

1607
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: on the on the other end of the phone, Uh,

1608
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: cry over the for the sympathy for your plight. That

1609
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:37,879
Speaker 1: aids just gonna mark another notch in the for against

1610
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: column and move on to the next regardless of Yeah, yeah,

1611
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 1: like the intensity of the plea you might not matter,

1612
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: might not matter. That's what I heard. I was asking

1613
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: sort of a hypothetical question or not a leading I

1614
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 1: know what kind of question. The question we kind of

1615
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 1: already know the answer to it. But I've talked to representatives,

1616
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: um who have said on some issues where it's not

1617
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: like a huge on some issues where it's not just

1618
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: become like a big party thing or doesn't become like

1619
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: super partisan polarizing into partisan way and you have to

1620
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: like go with things and it just is, you know,

1621
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: just some issue that doesn't become overly politicized that they

1622
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: will literally calls and letters and they run a tally

1623
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: and it's like that your constituents seen to be falling

1624
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 1: very cleanly and favoritess and it's like got it yep,

1625
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 1: that's all go yep. Um. Yeah, so it's still like

1626
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 1: good old stuff like that still happens. Yeah. I mean

1627
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: I've written letter emails. Um. You know, form letters are

1628
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: super easy, but it's not much harder at all to

1629
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: just write an individual letter that isn't attached to a

1630
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: form letter. I think that is more impactful. Um. But man,

1631
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: a phone call is so fast, so efficient, that's what

1632
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: those folks like. It's easier to make the phone call.

1633
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: Oh sure, they're always real polite. Oh thanks for calling

1634
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: and glad to hear you're you know, involved. Okay, bye, Yeah,

1635
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 1: they're gonna ask you where you live, you know, because

1636
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: they want to know if you're in there zone or not,

1637
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: you know. But I mean, it's it's it's something everybody's

1638
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: gotta be a part of. If not this issue, something else.

1639
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, this is damn sure

1640
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: your issue. So get off your stuff and call great

1641
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 1: an email and be a part of the process. I

1642
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: got strangle hold little stuck in my head right now.

1643
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: Before our lives showing Detroit got canceled. You know what

1644
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,879
Speaker 1: we had planned for it. I'm sorry postponed, not canceled, postpone,

1645
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: and we'll still do it anyway. But my buddy from

1646
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 1: high school, John Merchant, he likes to play guitar, and

1647
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: when we were little kids here, not kids like high schoolers,

1648
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: he always, uh like you could play all the nugent songs,

1649
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, And um, we're gonna have John come out

1650
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: with a guitar at the live show and we're gonna

1651
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: do nugent name that tune and John I was gonna

1652
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: play opening licks to see who can name the song

1653
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,600
Speaker 1: fastest way and go tango, and then we'll have a

1654
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 1: green tree and an accent in there. Uh are we

1655
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: doing concluders here. Okay, So I got a good one

1656
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: that's been bugging me. Um alright, so you guys got

1657
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: I'll make this real quick, and it's just out for

1658
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: everybody to judge. Here moment, you're gonna say something that's

1659
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 1: been bugging you in and I'm going to judge it. Yep, Well,

1660
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta. It's a scenario, right, So, Oklahoma

1661
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 1: suburbs of Oklahoma City. These two kids are out fishing

1662
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:39,679
Speaker 1: in their neighborhood pond, which is legal to do so legal.

1663
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: It is legal to fish the neighborhood pod. And they're

1664
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: fishing for bass in the neighborhood pond. Uh. And they

1665
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: want to say they're somewhere in the twelve fourteen year

1666
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: old range, the horrible age. Yeah for full of miss chieff. Right. Sure,

1667
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 1: it was a lot of trouble happens in there. I

1668
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: caught a lot of large mouth bass in them mirrors.

1669
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: Vehicle shows up, guide, an adult man steps out, walks

1670
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: to the water's edge with a cast net, uses the

1671
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: cast net to pull approximately three pound bass off of bed,

1672
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: and then drops that bass in the bucket next to him.

1673
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: The kids know that this is illegal, and they decide

1674
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 1: to go up and talk to the adult and just

1675
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: let him know that this is an illegal activity. And

1676
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: he begins to cuss the kids out, you know, basically

1677
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: like mind your own business. And at that point the

1678
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: kids call fishing game fishing wildlife. Uh huh I should

1679
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: have been talking, yeah, student, little buggers and that. Uh.

1680
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 1: Then they say, hey, just so you know, you know,

1681
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 1: we called fishing wildlife. They even went as far to

1682
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: explain to the guy before they called fishing wildlife that

1683
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: you can keep a bass with a rod and reel.

1684
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 1: So they're like, if you're really interested in keeping a bass,

1685
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: you can keep one if you catch it with a rod.

1686
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Real mr, Yeah, just fish for him. Yeah. Uh So

1687
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 1: then now this guy's real irate and he's still cussing

1688
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: at these at these kids. Um. And then uh drives off,

1689
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 1: thinks better of it, jumps out, runs down to the

1690
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: water's edge, throws the bass back, continues to cuss at

1691
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: the kids. Uh, jumps in the vehicle and drives off. Uh.

1692
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: And then later on, fishing Game catches up with him,

1693
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 1: writes some a ticket, which he he he pays in full. Um.

1694
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 1: I was just sending these kids something. What was the

1695
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: ticket for illegal means a take I think illegal casting

1696
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: out in bass? Yeah uh um. So I notice in

1697
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: the the video footage the kids wearing a first light hat.

1698
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah? Uh care him? Is his name? K A.

1699
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: R U M and his buddy writer were the two kids,

1700
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: and uh, I reach out to the father, right. I

1701
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: don't want to reach out to the fourteen year old

1702
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: kid without talking to his folks first. Um, and the

1703
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: guys like, hey, thank you so much for reaching out.

1704
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: There's some folks on social media that are calling the

1705
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: kids a bunch of names. They're taking it pretty hard.

1706
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,679
Speaker 1: And then some of them names for what for turning

1707
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: the guy in? It was the guy that the guy

1708
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: thrown the bass back in the lake, they would have

1709
01:42:55,920 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: turned him in. Yeah yeah. The part of the concert. Uh.

1710
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: Conversation I had with the dad uh was fun though too,

1711
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 1: because he's like, yeah, they're taking it pretty hard. They're

1712
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they're out fishing right now. But so the

1713
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: kids like their fishing and they're protecting their fishing horn.

1714
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to throw that story out and

1715
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: see what what the general sentiment was around this table

1716
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: as to uh, just just the whole thing as far

1717
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 1: as like, I think we should send those kids some stuff. Man.

1718
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: But it's a job well done. I mean they gave

1719
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: an adult. They're checking out there, looking out for the

1720
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: resource man the predator husbands is praying and they're pretty

1721
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: educated on the whole system, which is impressive. You know. Um,

1722
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: they're acting more responsible than a lot of adults would

1723
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: have acted. And if the story played out like you're

1724
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,799
Speaker 1: talking about, if the dude had been like oh man, dude, sorry,

1725
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 1: throw the bass back, we'll be talking about Well, it

1726
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: seems like that guy had like a system, like you

1727
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: don't just run out of your car with a cast

1728
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: that like huh, I wonder what will happen? Like he's

1729
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 1: got it coming. Man, it sounds like you might have

1730
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: been doing some bucket biology. Oh yeah, that's interested stock

1731
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 1: in his own ponds somewhere else. Um, I we should

1732
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: send some of those kids. He had a first light hit. Yeah,

1733
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 1: I can't find any faults or any holes like with

1734
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: the story rating the dude out, But like again I

1735
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 1: wasn't there. He right, so I can see like, oh,

1736
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: it's bad to wrap somebody out. I can see someone

1737
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 1: making that argument. But if if the dudes is getting

1738
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 1: testy with them. What are they supposed to do? Fight them? Well?

1739
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,759
Speaker 1: And that's things like this is a full blown adult.

1740
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 1: And you look at these these kids, and I hope

1741
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,560
Speaker 1: you guys don't get embarrassed on this one. But they're like,

1742
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, a little skinny havn't quite uh you know,

1743
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: beefed up yet. I haven't either, Yeah, you know, Steve

1744
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: hasn't either. But and then the other cool thing, the

1745
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 1: cool part of this is they're a good Samaritan steps forward.

1746
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 1: Uh grogis I think is this guy's name? Um? And

1747
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 1: he recalls his own terrible experience with an adult fishing

1748
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 1: as a kid, where some guy lost his temper and

1749
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: he recalls not ever even wanting to go back to

1750
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: that whole lake. And so he got a hold these

1751
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 1: two kids bottom uh Oklahoma lifetime fishing license a piece, yeah,

1752
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: and uh a gift card to Cabellas or bass Pro

1753
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: or something. Yes. Yeah. And that's the way you should act,

1754
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 1: not tormenting these kids because they did the right thing,

1755
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 1: especially if you like to fish. That's interesting, that's a lovely,

1756
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:48,560
Speaker 1: heartwarming story. Is that. I just don't think it was

1757
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 1: a concluder. It's not. It doesn't fit into usually what

1758
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: a concluder is like another talking point. Yeah, I know,

1759
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear what you guys, have you

1760
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 1: ever been like watch this. I'll be like, uh, man,

1761
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: I just want to say, cal that that stuff you

1762
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:09,719
Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. Um, that warms my heart, buddy.

1763
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: That's well, I don't have a concluder. I like the

1764
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 1: story cows a good way to end the day. Oh man, Yeah,

1765
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: I wish we had a great uplifting story like that

1766
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 1: on the show Man. That's like I asked a few questions. Yeah, yeah,

1767
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: I told him. I wrote this up on the Weekend

1768
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: review podcast that Cols we can review coals. We can

1769
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:35,719
Speaker 1: review best thing on the internet. I'm like, just type

1770
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 1: that and you'll pullp Cols. We can review those those

1771
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, those boys can fish with me. Uh last

1772
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: quick thing listening? We else got any that I've come

1773
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: to a thing on puffballs? Mm hmm. I'm like, it's

1774
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: hard to see something in the woods it's edible and

1775
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 1: not pick it. I saw it, I grabbed it. Man,

1776
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: But you're not having good luck with him. I'm almost

1777
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 1: gonna I have yet to eat in my life, and

1778
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: I've made a fair number of them if you have

1779
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: to eat a puffball. Rouse there night we're eating those

1780
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 1: morals and you're like, damn, those are good. Dah, they're good.

1781
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: Hand in the woods Man. That's good. It's so good.

1782
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: Bleats so good. Yeah, what are the orange ones? Sweet mother?

1783
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: It's just good. You're patting yourself on the back. Good

1784
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: job picking that out. Every time every time I eat

1785
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: a puff ball, every time someone picks a puff ball,

1786
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 1: every time someone makes me a puffball pizza, it doesn't

1787
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 1: matter what it is. I'm always like, yeah, yeah, for sure,

1788
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: it's edible and it's not bad, but it's not bad. Yeah,

1789
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: you don't have to pick them up, morrel. You're not

1790
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna walk away from They're just like very complimentary to

1791
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: whatever you're making, like on a burger in the Steaks

1792
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 1: us something like that, but like you're not gonna eat

1793
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 1: it on its own as an appetizer. We found two

1794
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 1: giant puff balls. I'd say not the size of a

1795
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 1: normal head, but the size of cow's head. I got

1796
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 1: that bigger, smaller than a normal No, like a puff

1797
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: ball the size of spencer's head. Now that's a puff ball.

1798
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 1: That's a big puff but a puffball the size of

1799
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 1: like cow's heads, about the size of a softball. Yeah,

1800
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: puff ball like that. But what I can't remember it

1801
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 1: was it had like this one had met metallic kind

1802
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: of Brody picked a nice one, but then we let

1803
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 1: it sit a couple of days and it got a

1804
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: little s out, but it wasn't like it's the white shot.

1805
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,560
Speaker 1: But then but then me, my boy picked one that

1806
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: was like firm, nice, like any puff ball is edible,

1807
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Like any puffballs edible. If you cut it open um

1808
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 1: and it's white inside, it's fine. Eventually they turn darker, darker,

1809
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 1: darker black, and then you can squeeze him and you know,

1810
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 1: the spores shoot up in the air. It looks like

1811
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 1: a smoke bomb at Fourth of July, but coming on

1812
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:13,640
Speaker 1: white cutt into slices. I can't remember what we did.

1813
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 1: We wanted to, like, I think we just put it

1814
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 1: on foil on a grill shipload of olive oil, which

1815
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 1: makes anything be okay. And in the end it was

1816
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: like you couldn't. Kids didn't like it, kind of pasty

1817
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 1: in the middle. It's like tofuie. Yeah, kind of dune

1818
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 1: with those sons of bitches. That's all folks. Come on,

1819
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: I got oh no, go ahead, give the counterpoint. It's

1820
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: like one of those shows like point counterpoint. Oh no,

1821
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm with you. I'm I think I think

1822
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,759
Speaker 1: puff balls for burgers are aware of a hat because

1823
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: I just do like garlic butter, and then I have

1824
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 1: the puff balls all sliced up in there, and he

1825
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: just laid on top of burger and just laying on

1826
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: top of burger, and and nobody and a lot of

1827
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: times I'll do bacon burgers and then be when folks

1828
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: aren't looking, I'll be transferring that bacon grease into the

1829
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 1: butter dish. Also, nobody's walking away from one of those

1830
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: puffball mushrooms, right, It's like and it winds up being good,

1831
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: but like, okay, let me ask you why though, Oh,

1832
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, because you've doctored it all up, I winds

1833
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: up being like fun to eat the mushroom. Oh yeah, yeah,

1834
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. I think their their nickname is like

1835
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 1: the breakfast mushroom, because what you should do with the

1836
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: puff ball is like tossing an omelet, toss it with eggs,

1837
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: put in a burrito something like that. How can you

1838
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 1: say that its nickname is the breakfast mushroom? But then

1839
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: say that it's not a widely held belief that pine

1840
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: squirrels bite the knots off all the squirrels. You got

1841
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: me there? Maybe like one person called it the breakfast mushroom.

1842
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love putting the truth about breakfast mushrooms.

1843
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 1: Are you typing in breakfast mushroom, Junie, I'm gonna type

1844
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 1: in puffball mushroom nicknames. See what happens, Spencer's It's gonna

1845
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 1: be all right. Who else got a concluder? I'm good.

1846
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I like Cal's story. I can't. Yeah, I'm sorry to

1847
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 1: top it. I wanna make a defense in my breakfast

1848
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 1: mushroom thing here real quick. That's a good concluder from

1849
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: from while I have another concluder yet, so this one

1850
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 1: doesn't count this up? Uh? From the book Wild About Mushrooms,

1851
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: the cookbook of the Micological Society of San Francisco, they

1852
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: say some people refer to puffballs as breakfast mushrooms because

1853
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: they blend so well with eggs. Okay, that seems definitive

1854
01:51:53,160 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 1: enough to me. Okay, so you're my concluder. Was that's wrong?

1855
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm convinced that a recent episode had the best, most

1856
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: unexpected thing ever said on it that I heard over

1857
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,959
Speaker 1: Quarantine recent episode of what of the Meat Eater podcast

1858
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: this very show, Yes is something you said? No, no, no, no,

1859
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: I've been I've been. I've been catching over here something

1860
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: I read on a blood Spencer new the best most

1861
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 1: unexpected thing I've ever heard on the Meat Eater podcast. Um,

1862
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 1: I've been catching up Quarantine and I've thought about this

1863
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 1: once a day, I swear to you since I heard it,

1864
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen you guys because of social distancing

1865
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 1: to bring it up. But in episode two eighteen, Kevin Murphy,

1866
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 1: I was talking to you guys, and if I were

1867
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:51,679
Speaker 1: introducing one of you, if I were like introducing Brodie

1868
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 1: to somebody who didn't know Brodie, I'd be like, this

1869
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: is my buddy, Brodie. He just moved here from Colorado.

1870
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you know that a little shi, Yeah,

1871
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 1: like this is my buddy. Honest. Uh he used to

1872
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 1: guide elk hunters something like that. Like that's that's just

1873
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: like a pretty normal introduction. Kevin Murphy blindsided you guys

1874
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: with something that I think you were so caught off

1875
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 1: guard you didn't even address it. But Kevin Murphy said, uh,

1876
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 1: does he listen to this podcast. Oh, probably not. I

1877
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to here he does not. Okay, well,

1878
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to reach out anyway. He's to like

1879
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 1: put a ball on this. But he said something about

1880
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 1: that was with my buddy Raymond, and Raymond doesn't let

1881
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 1: me go into gentlemen's clubs in foreign countries. And then

1882
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: he just moved on from there. Never never brought it

1883
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: back to that. It had nothing to do with the

1884
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 1: rest of the two hours that you guys talked, But

1885
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: that was his footnote on his buddy rain Like, if

1886
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 1: you want to know what kind of guy Raymond, Yes,

1887
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: he does not let you go into gentleman's clubs and

1888
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: foreign countries. So yeah, you're like, okay, so he's he's coolheaded,

1889
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: he thinks ahead, he doesn't get carried away in the moment,

1890
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: I was waiting for something to come back to that

1891
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 1: story or like how is this relevant? And it never happened,

1892
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 1: and it it's bothered me because I tell him telling you,

1893
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 1: I thought about it every single day. I can see

1894
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: that a little bit because I certainly caught that when

1895
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: he said it, and the thing that came to mind

1896
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 1: to me I was like, well, Kevin, to me, that

1897
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 1: says that you were on your way to a gentleman's

1898
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 1: club in a foreign country and your body thought better

1899
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 1: of it and he stopped you. You know it. So

1900
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: I kind of kind of said a little bit about Kevin,

1901
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,959
Speaker 1: which I don't know if he got a service background,

1902
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: merchant mery and or something like that. I just want

1903
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 1: to know what inspired like that specific footnote. There has

1904
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: to be some sort of back and ask him and

1905
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: you can report back to us. Do you even recall

1906
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: that being said, Steve? No, But like I feel like

1907
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to, like if I have someone on, sometimes

1908
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: i'll have someone and I'll go back and listen because

1909
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do a lot of things in my

1910
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: head hosting m HM. And the thing with Kevin two

1911
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: man he uh he uh has the gift of gab

1912
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: and it flows thought to the next and one idea

1913
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: to the next pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, well we can

1914
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 1: follow up on that keeping you up at night. Huh.

1915
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: Speaking of the this is you got one too? Oh

1916
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 1: you still got a concluder though I gave it. I

1917
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 1: gave Spencer month, so you got one. But I'm gonna

1918
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: do a story for a concluder about going to gentleman's

1919
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: clubs in foreign countries. I Uh, one time I was

1920
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: working on this magazine story and I had to go

1921
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: to the Santiago and Chile and I just started dating

1922
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: my wife and I brought her with me, and I uh,

1923
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 1: we had hired a guy I needed needed to hire,

1924
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 1: like a translator and someone to help out with stuff. Um,

1925
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: And so I said, man, I really want to get

1926
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, and he said, well, how about

1927
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: a coffee with legs? And I thought he meant like

1928
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 1: a strong coffee. So I'm like, yeah, what other kind

1929
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 1: is there? Right? Or whatever the hell I said. I'm like,

1930
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 1: I would like that's what I thought he meant. But no,

1931
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: what do you mean means? Is he takes us to

1932
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 1: this like underground arcade in Santiago and it's uh coffee

1933
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 1: shops that our staffed by naked women. So, and it's

1934
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 1: businessmen doing business meetings. It's black, there's black lights. It's

1935
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 1: full of like businessmen at eleven in the morning having

1936
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 1: meetings and you're being waited on and served coffee by

1937
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: nude women. And so I'm with my wife and so

1938
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying very hard to not look at anything. I'm

1939
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: just like not looking at anything. All three of you

1940
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 1: want to get a coffee. There, Me, the translator, and

1941
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: my wife are sitting very awkwardly, and he's like, isn't

1942
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 1: it great? Isn't it great? You know? And I'm sitting

1943
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: there like I'm not looking, I'm not doing anything. And

1944
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: I had my notebook out because I was taking some notes.

1945
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 1: And eventually my wife took my notebook and she drew

1946
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 1: a picture in it. And I looked and it was

1947
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 1: a woman. It was a picture of a woman holding

1948
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 1: a pair of scissors and a man's scrolled them gentleman's

1949
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 1: clubs in foreign countries. Man, go ahead, Johnny, I'll let you.

1950
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: I'll let it end on that I was. I didn't

1951
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 1: have one. I gave a dispenser. I said, what was yours?

1952
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: H No, you said that was the thought. The puff

1953
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 1: ball thing was me doing a follow up. The concluder

1954
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: was that Kevin Murphy had the greatest most unexpected line

1955
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: your podcast history. Okay, Phil helps out here now, now

1956
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Phil the engineer, please provide a concluder so we can

1957
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 1: wrap her up. Yet one minute, Well, I was just

1958
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 1: gonna I was actually gonna try to cut you guys

1959
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: off because I thought the picture of your wife drew

1960
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 1: into the laughter. Bring the music up. That's that's the

1961
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: end of the podcast. Go ahead and do that, Phil,

1962
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Is it too late? No? Can we

1963
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 1: talk about this and then have that happened and you

1964
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: can we can talk about its going to hear what

1965
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Let's say, let's you played this and

1966
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 1: then did what you would have done right and show

1967
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 1: that you were right. Sound okay, I would do that.

1968
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Now back up and do what you would have done right. Okay,

1969
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 1: here we go. Here comes men, folks. It was a

1970
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 1: picture of a woman holding a pair of scissors and

1971
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 1: a man scrolled them Gentlemen's clubs and Foreign Conscience Man