1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Hot rock and roll man, rolling rock. I got tens, 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: got twenties, got fifty blocks. I got smoked to buy 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: coke for sale, so much coke, got coke in jail 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: in the White Rose rose from a man for real. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: This little nigga got beats too fresh to beat stale. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take you back to the early eighties 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: when my cousin Stacey had the Pearl Mercedes, my aunt 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: cousin Wack had the Black on Black and Coop Legend 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: with the golden back. And I was just a little 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: young and running wild a hell, running round wild, trying 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: to get that mail. Little shorty dudes, trying to learn 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: the grooves. I was twelve years old, bout at the school. 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: But because I was quick to flip, quick to. 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: Sell that shit. 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: You ain't from the hood. You don't know about this, 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: but if you feel me, throw your guns up. 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: Hey. 20 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Black Guy to his podcast, your host 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: Rod and Kevin, and we're live on. 22 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: A Saturday afternoon. 23 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: You, sir, after already doing balls deep pregame and a 24 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: sport movie review. 25 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, sou premium. People got plenty of stuff. 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 4: Today and you got a note off from yesterday. 27 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so now it's time to give you guys your 28 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: feedback because obviously we love to do that all right now, 29 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: feedback episodes for people who love the show, and they 30 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: leave comments, and they leave us five star reviews, and 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: they want to let us know about the things that 32 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: they thought about, the things that we said, and all 33 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: that stuff throughout the week. We appreciate y'all. Y'all are 34 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: some real troopers. Y'all our favorites, and many of you 35 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: actually take the time out to leave five star reviews 36 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: on iTunes. Of stitchers, you take the time out to 37 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: email us, leave comments on the website voting the post, 38 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: and also to give us your money. Many of you 39 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: go to the website The Black guyhotos dot com, look 40 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: on the right hand side and decide to donate to 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: the show. We also got emails, voicemails, and some gifts 42 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: today and some Christmas cards. 43 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: Okay, we still need to mail y'alls out. 44 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: I feel like I've gotten everybody's I feel like it's 45 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: slowed down now. I got everybody's mailing the dress. I'm 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: ready to print them out and give them to you guys. 47 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: So but first things first, we want to give credit 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: to the people who gave us money. 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: Thank you. 50 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: I delicate the tone to person depression. 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: Today's and then day Riata may C, thank you so much. 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: Riata Bomani Jones. You guys know him from High Noon 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: on ESPN. Laura Ed, thank you, Laura, Benjamin C. 54 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: We appreciate you. 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: Ben got a one time donation from born Beautiful Naturals 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: who say, Hello, my lovelies, It's Katrina. I found y'all 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: in December twenty fifteen. I'm celebrating three years listening to 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: the Blackout tips by slipping something into the offering plate. 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: Life is so busy that I don't get to write 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: in much, but I literally listened to something them from 61 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: the Blackout to the network every day. I wish you 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: a peaceful holiday season and a twenty nineteen that enhances 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: your for coming. 64 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: Shout out to Michelle Obama. I love y'all. 65 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, Miss Hathaway, thank you, Nicholas Z. Thank you 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: so much. I put this in the wrong box. Thank 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: you so much for wrong boxing our girl Olivia from Chicago, 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, Shandra B. Thank you Shandra rnate M. Thank you, Renaatee. 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 3: Pete B. 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: Well appreciate your peat Black fem Press Comics, thank you 72 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: so much. But she go kick up some comics everybody. 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: I like Iron Heart Issue Won. It's actually really good, 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 2: all right, that one's. 75 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: Taking too long to load. Let's see. Oh they're all 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: taking too long to load. Now, you know what that is? 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: A that's excellent, it's just. 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, speaking of comics, I'm also reading this comic 79 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: called Blackbird. 80 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: You guys should check that out. 81 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: It's about like a Latino girl who gets who's like 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: in broad in a world of wizards and warlocks and 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: trying to figure out her powers and all this stuff 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: and magical creatures. 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: I really have enjoyed it. And it's still not loading. 86 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: What the hell? What there's my phone not connect to 87 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: the internet. What is going on? 88 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh, Kurt, I'm letting everybody down, Kurt, Frank, 89 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 90 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 6: I know they're singing in the background too. 91 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 92 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: I guess I'll just read these as they pop up, 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: because it's like this thing is oh all right, David 94 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: s all right, David from Brooklyn, thank you very much, 95 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: Ricky A pretty Ricky what they call him. 96 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: Laura F. Thank you very much, Laura. 97 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: Chris from Hawaii, appreciate you. Chris, Califani G. Thank you, 98 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Mayhem and Seattle. 99 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: Tabitha M. Thank you, Tabitha Brown or F Thank you Brown. 100 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: April G. Appreciate you. April Hey. All right, official first 101 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: time recurrent donator. 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. Uh, Corey the Tickler, thank you very much. 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: Corey. 104 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: Shout out to Memphis, June the Girl June from Harlem, 105 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: thank you very much. June Dia H. Thank you, Dia. 106 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: We appreciate you as well. And alexis H no relation, 107 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: thank you so much. Uh, Kyle K very much. Not 108 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: to be confused at the KKK, totally different person, has 109 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: nothing to do with them. Oh and this is going 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: back further than two weeks, so I guess I read 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: some of these people already. All right, shout out to 112 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: my phone acting stupid. All right, guys, let's get into 113 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: what's going on my phone. So anyway, let's get into 114 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: the five star reviews. Got two of them on iTunes, 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: none on stitcher. 116 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: And none on the. 117 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Uh, none on stitch on sporil reviews. I will check 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: this one when I get done. 119 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: Uh, this is. 120 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: Chaos storms who says five stars? I stand okay, okay, okay. 121 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: I've been following Rod on Twitter for over five years 122 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: and I finally just passed October decided to give a 123 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: listen to this podcast, and wow, I love everything about 124 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: Riding Karen, from the show format to the guest and 125 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: all the hilarity in between. I live in the rural 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: eastern Pennsylvania and this podcast is seriously what gets me 127 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: through the lack of adversity up in here. 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: I feel you. 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: Thanks Roding Karen for sharing so many parts of your 130 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: life with the world and giving us all some light 131 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: during the dark time's heart. Thank you, thank you, Madam 132 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Butterfly says one of the best podcasts five stars Roding Karen. 133 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: Amazing podcast. Karen know what to know that the shaming 134 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: is effective Haha. I've been listening for a little over 135 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: two years and just getting around to leaving a five 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: star review. You two have gotten me through the latter 137 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: part of my engineering PhD okay, okay, Doc PhD okay, 138 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: And I'm forever grateful for the nuanced conversations, the unapologetic 139 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: advocacy for black women and other marginalized groups and. 140 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: Giving me an into the daily news. 141 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: Without having to consume it for myself to Uh so, 142 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't really, I don't literally cry and yell all day. 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: I've learned and grown with y'all, and as soon as 144 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: I start making these PhD coins, I'll be going premium 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: to support. 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: And I started my first job today. 147 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, first job. 148 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna need all the content for this commute. Oh yes, 149 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: that's one of the best ways of listening to podcasts. 150 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: Keep up the great work, and I'm always praying for 151 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: your growth and continue success. 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: Thank you. You know what, don't pray up? We could 153 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: use it. You Come on, all right, let me see 154 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: if I can find the sport reviews real quick. 155 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: Why isn't it popping shit? I don't ramatically populate. All right, Well, 156 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: I guess I'll just search this way and see if 157 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: there's any for this. There were none on Stitcher for 158 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: sport reviews or regular so you got my stitch of listeners. 159 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: Need y'all to do better, step it up? 160 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: All right, you. 161 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: Gotta go to the website the Leader review unfortunately, right 162 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: shut up, but right now one hundred and nineteen sport 163 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: More Reviews out here for the general public. 164 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: Will take that. 165 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's really really strange on ficture that 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: you can leave it in the in the app. They 167 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: should posted the site, but apparently that connection wasn't made. 168 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: Okay, no new reviews, let's get into the website. 169 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: Comments eighteen o nine burning the Bagh. 170 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: We talked about people burning their bags up. Okay. 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: One comment star dot Star says, I found the chore 172 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: conversation so interesting because we didn't do stuff around the 173 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: house just to be responsible or to keep our house clean. 174 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: My parents, especially our dad, taught my sister and I 175 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 2: to how to do odd jobs, repairs and upkeep one 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: day because one day we would have the house. He 177 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: was teaching us how to maintain our inheritance, which is 178 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: kind of funny because we have four older brothers who 179 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: at my sister. My sister and I will still go 180 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: back to the house to help with y'alld and or 181 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: maintenance because we may not live there, but it's our home. 182 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 183 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: So did he not teach your brothers or did they 184 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: just not want to do it? Maybe I don't know, 185 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: I wonder you know what I mean? All right, that's 186 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: but still I mean, that's so many different ways. That 187 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: was a very opening conversation. The poe was, well, Kevin 188 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: Hart lose work because of this week? Yes, twenty four no, 189 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: seventy six percent? All right, lots of comments on this 190 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: very long comments. We'll see cause that just says how 191 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: caring and kit Kat, thank you so much for your 192 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: words regarding my voicemail. Once again, I apologized for being 193 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: so scattered when I talked, but I was just emotional 194 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: and triggered, remembering the first and only time I tried 195 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: to come out to my mother. In the end, she 196 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: told me that lifestyle choice of lay me in eternal 197 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: fires of hell. Oh, and that was that never tried again. 198 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: I knew where I stood, and yes, as black people, 199 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: we are just used to shit on a daily basis. 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: So when we get an apology sincere, it. 201 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: Becomes water under the bridge and onto the next day 202 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: of bullshit. That's why I'm so grateful you guys do 203 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: what you do every day. You show me that there 204 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: are people out there who genuinely can speak up and 205 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: lift us up. I adore you too, and I feel 206 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: like I owe you a check for us therapy. I 207 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm a therapist, but I appreciate you 208 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: feeling like, you know, you're in a place where you 209 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: can be supported and hears some people that at least 210 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: give a fuck, because I do think I don't know 211 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: how to. I don't know one hundred percent how to. 212 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: I haven't figured the words out yet. But I do 213 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: think there's something about the illusion of social media and 214 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: online and stuff and how it treats and how people 215 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: are able to position themselves and these like what feels 216 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: like powerful positions by being like I never forgive, I 217 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: never forget, I don't let things go, no apologies good enough, 218 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: I never make mistakes. 219 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: And you know, all that shit. 220 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: There's like a way where you feel powerful, but it 221 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: doesn't actually mirror the real world, and it doesn't and 222 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't move beyond social media in that way. In 223 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: that capacity, too many of these people who make mistakes 224 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: or are just willfully fucked up are continuing to prosper 225 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: for me to think that social media is real in 226 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: that way, like you know it really people will accept 227 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: any level of apology, and in many cases they'll even 228 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: take no apology, you know, like somebody can just be 229 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: like fuck y'all and just keep doing what they're doing, 230 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people will support and move on. 231 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 3: This week, I was just I felt like my timeline was. 232 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: Inundated with clips of the Breakfast Club, the show that 233 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: everybody quit, the show that everybody said boycott, and then 234 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: they were sharing pictures of ray J's glasses, an interview 235 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: with Mark lamont Hill and all that stuff. 236 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons canceled and don't watch him. 237 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Were millions of people listening to somebody lying. 238 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: It's the reason I said, I give up on the 239 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: like like, I just had to give up on the 240 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: always being angry about shit that really people get outraged 241 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: about in a small sector, and then they never really 242 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: maintained that rage. At some point, they're going around talking 243 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 2: ray J's glasses being adorable because that's just what it is. 244 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: Like they don't care that they called charlemagnea rapists a 245 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: few months ago, or that what their favorite artists went 246 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: on there after that happened, and shit, they don't care 247 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: that those people are transphobic. 248 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: They don't care. 249 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: And so there's a certain point where if you're the 250 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: only person that cares, that drives you crazy. But then 251 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: there's also this thing where, like I said, I don't 252 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: have the full words for it, but it's like. 253 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: You're constantly disappointed. So there's some. 254 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: Levels within life where you learn where it's like, you 255 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: know what, close enough, your intent does matter. Some people 256 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: are out here purposely being offensive and inflammatory, and some 257 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: people are just kind of making mistakes. And somewhere along 258 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: the line people stopped caring what the difference was. But 259 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: I never did, and I think we should care. And 260 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: that being said, I'm sorry your mom would say something 261 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: like that to you and that you know that's messed up, 262 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: and I don't. 263 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. 264 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: Man. 265 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: I know religion gives people some ways to feel like 266 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: this is wrong and this is bad, but this, it's 267 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: like that level of something goes beyond religion. 268 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it goes beyond religion. Because I just don't 269 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: know how. 270 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: I can say that to the to the to the 271 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: child that I bore, like, hey, you need you know, 272 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: you going to hell or something. 273 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: I don't know how you. 274 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: Do that, Phil says, I, for one, didn't don't think 275 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: Kevin Heart will lose much, if not anything, for his 276 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: inability to stop being so proud, for his refusal to apologize, 277 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: got so little burning the narrative had switched to oh man, 278 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: the oscars can't find the host now. They should have 279 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: never tried to force that apologize to Kevin so fast 280 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: that he's been placed strongly in that victim category. Onto 281 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: a random thought of mind. The voicemail you all got 282 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: this week from the emotional woman Kodesha. I think that's 283 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: how spell her name was truly tough as assists black woman. 284 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: I would never know the struggle that she faces, but 285 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: I would like to send encouragement to her and I 286 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: wish for the best for her. Thanks for another great show, 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: right and Karen, thank you. See t says at Cadessha, 288 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: KitKat is too cute. Look at y'all in the look 289 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: at our little community out here, like girl, we got 290 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: your back. 291 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: I'll see y'all. Kit Cat is too cute? 292 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: Karen? 293 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: Can we start calling you that? Well technically and we're 294 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: being honest. She said, Hi, Karen and KitKat. So I 295 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: was KitKat probably because I ate that kit Cat caddy. 296 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: But if y'all want to give Karen that nickname, that 297 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: is fine with me. 298 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: Ha ha. 299 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: If I was a betting woman, I bet it's gonna 300 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: be quiet out here for Kevin Hart. I think it 301 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: goes back to Rodd's idea entertainment not being fun when 302 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: it comes to being problematic. I don't want to watch 303 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: something and wonder what the implications are for watching the 304 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: movie or show or special. I don't want to think 305 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: that my good inclusive dollars are going to a man 306 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: that still thinks acting gay is beneath him. The industry 307 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: might not say anything, but I think at the twenty 308 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: nineteen Kevin Hart will be looking for work instead of 309 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: and work handed to him. 310 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: The smartest thing he could do is just be quiet. 311 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I completely disagree because a lot of times when 312 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: we talk, we're talking from the perspectives of social media. 313 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: The fucking the rest of the rest of them niggas 314 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: out now don't give a fuck Like I'm just we 315 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: don't want to admit that the rest of the people 316 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: outside of our sphere of online that's always quote unquote 317 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: canceling people. 318 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that. 319 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Actually support what he says. A don't care about what 320 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: he says. I didn't even hear about what he said, 321 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: so they're like, hey, Kevin Hart is doing here's my money. 322 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart got a new movie here's my money. Kevin 323 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: Hart got new special, Here's my money. Sometimes we have 324 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: to realize that the world is actually bigger than social media. 325 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: A lot of times social media is particularly if you're 326 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,359 Speaker 1: on Facebook and Twitter, Instagram, it gives people the illusion 327 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: that the world agrees or their circles because depends on 328 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: on which platform you want, you can filter it until 329 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times you get everybody around you that 330 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: kind of thinks alike. And so a lot of times 331 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: we fail to realize it's a lot of black people 332 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: outside of us, Like we could protest with our dollars. 333 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: It's not a problem, but our dollars is a drop 334 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: in a bucket compared to the billions of dollars out 335 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: there that people are just going to continue to give 336 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: him money. It's gonna be people who who's going to 337 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: hire him, probably didn't even hear about this, don't care 338 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: about this on some board somewhere. 339 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 6: You know. 340 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like everybody, I. 341 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: Mean everybody heard about this, but they won't care, you know. 342 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that part. I'm just letting 343 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: you know. 344 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a lot 345 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: of this is so big for his name and his career. 346 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think people will have heard about 347 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: it and not cared. 348 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 4: Right. 349 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: I think Kevin feels very accomplished, but he is, which 350 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: he is, but almost as if he's untouchable. Its prior 351 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: to so large and ego so blooded that he thinks 352 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: he can simply refuse apologize and most of Hollywood turned 353 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: out an opportunity for the Oscars and time will be 354 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: on the side in a few years and he'll just 355 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: host the Oscars later. 356 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: But he forgot a couple of things. One, he's black. 357 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: Hollywood don't fuck with black people. 358 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: If all us still ain't making the money she should 359 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: be making as an Oscar winner. 360 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: But she's not a man, right, you know, you kind 361 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: of got to pull that car out that she's not 362 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: a man, and a I do think of some time 363 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: it's going to pass and they're gonna hire him for 364 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: the job. And he actually did apologize, and that's the 365 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: thing people have to finishend it. It was a forced apology, 366 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: but he actually did apologize, and because he did apologize, 367 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: he actually finally came out and was like, hey, I 368 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: fucked up, and he might not have said it, and 369 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: I fucked up, but it was a forced apology. It 370 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: don't matter if it's forced or not. An apology was made. 371 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: And so since an apology was made, eventually all will 372 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: quote unquote be forgiving once enough time passes. And you know, 373 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: as of now, he's still a money maker. Now, once 374 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: he stops being a money maker, that's a whole nother thing. 375 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: Well, moneymaker is relative, because that's like I get her 376 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: point about him being black, because up until this point, 377 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: we have done the one black person at a time 378 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: thing with comedy, correct, And I could see them being like, well, 379 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: you've had a good run, and is it that fucking 380 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: hard to replace you with the next dude? And if 381 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: that was if if it became a problem, I don't know. 382 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it will become a problem. But but 383 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: but if it became a problem of like, casting Kevin 384 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: Hart is going to lead to bad media pr for 385 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: our movie, let's just put a little the ball in. 386 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: I really think that could happen. I just don't. 387 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: I just don't know that this controversy was enough, uh 388 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: in that way because people don't really care that much. 389 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: Correct, And now he might do something else that people 390 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: go oh no, no, no, no no, and they just 391 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: start pulling away and actually care. You know, once he 392 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: started sucking up the money, that's when people be like, oh, 393 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. 394 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking up the money is what I'm talking about, though, 395 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: that's what she's talking about too okay for other people. Yet, Yeah, 396 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: it's if the ship isn't profitable the movie, if people 397 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: started feeling like it's bad pr I just don't know 398 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: that he's gonna fuck up. I don't know that this 399 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: was enough to fuck up the money. 400 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of times we feel like it 401 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: is is it like I said before, it boils down 402 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: to it's billions of dollars out there that don't give 403 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: a fuck. 404 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: Because I'm to be honest, I'm not even a point 405 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like I see everything Kevin Hart 406 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: puts out. But even with what he did, I wasn't 407 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: even at a point where I was like, and I 408 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: will never watch a Kevin Hart movie again, Like it 409 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 2: just seemed fucking stupid and like his pride messed up 410 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: an easy win for him, and then he ended up 411 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: apologizing anyway, so it just seemed like kind of pointless. 412 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know, it's it's like that 413 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: controversy compared to many others, just felt kind of light 414 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: work for him that if you know, it felt like 415 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 2: a problem he didn't need to have. 416 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: That he made a problem, you know, created an unnecessary And. 417 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: Then I think a lot of people will look at 418 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: it as he quote. 419 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: Unquote lost the Oscars, and they'll make it seem like 420 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't that bad. Watch They're gonna it's gonna be like, well, 421 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: remember when he lost the Oscars. It won't be remember 422 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: when he willfully gave up the oscar because he would 423 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: rather uh, you know, rather have homophobic jokes and shit 424 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: that he defends. 425 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, uh, so many people came out to 426 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: wood Works and jumped on that grenade when they didn't 427 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: have to. That I know he you know, from overall perspective, 428 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: he will be just fine. Like so many people was 429 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: just like fuck them, and none of a lot of 430 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: black men came out and jumped on the grenade, and 431 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: the niggas still apologized because it actually matters to Kevin. 432 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: It don't matter to them because they don't have any 433 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: stakes in it, but it matters to Kevin and those 434 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: men that spoke represents a large group of people. People 435 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: have to realize when the people come out like that, 436 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: it's other people that don't have the platforms that have 437 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: to feel the same way. 438 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: Well, they represent a large group of black men. I 439 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: don't know what black men are representative of, most of 440 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: what the way Hollywood feels about it, or representative of 441 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: other people that go see Kevin Hart movies. 442 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think, you know, it is a 443 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: percentage of people. 444 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, they represent more than themselves. 445 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: But I don't know really honestly, Like this, it really 446 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: depends on if you pissed off enough white people, and 447 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that did, especially when I saw the 448 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: spin of like. 449 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: He just working. I mean, look, even I ain't the 450 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: jokes what about what white people did? 451 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: And you know, now they ain't got no host And 452 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: if you can't do it, who can? 453 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: And it's just like, well damn. 454 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't realize y'all were gonna be so, 455 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: you know, on this dude's you know side. But I 456 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: think a lot of people did end up on the side. 457 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: All right, back to the comment she should be talking 458 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: about all to day. She should be making an Oscar winner, 459 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: She should be making the money. She should be Violet 460 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: still ain't making the money she should be making as 461 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: an OSCAR winner when you compare her to other white 462 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: women OSCAR winners. So, if the black people that are 463 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: getting awards aren't held at the same standard as the whites, 464 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: what makes you think you have a send it behind 465 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 2: blackness enough to where people will treat you like the 466 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: white people and forget your transgressions. Yeah, I'm like I said, 467 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't think anything's wrong with that logic. I think 468 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: this scandal won't be the one, but I agree there's 469 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: a different standard for black people. Yes, And it's not 470 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: really about debating if it's good or not, or if 471 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: you can or not. It's literally just this is the standard. 472 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: Keep fucking around if you want to, because they will 473 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: cancel your ass and you won't even know what happened. 474 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: You won't the phone calls to stop ringing and all 475 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 4: that stuff. 476 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin is hot today, but so is kat Williams 477 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: less than a decade ago. 478 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 3: What makes you think his flame won't be extinguished? 479 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: What makes you think we won't just find the next 480 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: funny black man, The black Man on the Show with 481 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: Jess Hilarious, Lou Rawl or something will. 482 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: Gladly take your place in line. 483 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: He already standing up for black women that hasn't said 484 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: nothing homophobic, that has had to apologize for it yet, 485 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: so already two steps ahead of him. Well yeah, that's 486 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: interesting though, because it's just interesting because like I wonder 487 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: if dudes like that pay a cost for standing up 488 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: for black women, you know what I mean? 489 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: Like, do they pay? 490 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: Do they pay a little bit of a cost for 491 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: being like this outspoken person and shit will do this? 492 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: Hollywood like a wary of those guys, like because there's 493 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: a type you know, can we just say that without 494 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: like trying to offend anybody, Like even the woke black dudes. 495 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: They like the woke black dude that is accepted by 496 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: white people. They prefer, you know, I shouldn't say prefer, 497 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: but it's not coincidence. A lot of the woke black 498 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: dudes gonna have white spouses. A lot of the acceptable 499 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: white black dudes are kind of like, well, you know, 500 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna make funny fun of blackness and 501 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: being black in some ways that might make black people 502 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: kind of uncomfortable. It's you know, so I think, you know, 503 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: or they do that all lives matter type of shit, 504 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: or it's just about being funny, like it's a meritocracy 505 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I do think that I wonder, 506 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: I wonder not think. I wonder if there are dudes 507 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: who advocate for black women that they're like and we can't. 508 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 3: He can't be the guy, you know. 509 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: And when talking about Kat Williams, the thing is, Cat 510 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Williams never quote unquote got counseled. We might not have 511 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: been following him, he might not have had the quote 512 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: unquote true spotlight, but his bag he still got a bag. 513 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 4: You know. 514 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: He didn't do nothing to get canceled. 515 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like he did something and white people 516 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: decided no more Kat Williams. His his comments were too much. 517 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, well, he did get a lot of rest 518 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: though he got arrested a lot. But I feel like 519 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: that's a self inflicted wound. That's not the same as 520 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: saying something controversial or doing. 521 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: A joke that people didn't like. 522 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: Right, Oh, you keep getting arrested, you know what. 523 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see them saying this nigga can't say 524 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: out of jail. 525 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: Right, which is something that you know, when it comes 526 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: to white people, depend on who you are, they will 527 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: let slide. So that's that's what that sism rolls in there. 528 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: But like I said, just because you don't follow somebody 529 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: or or they not in the in the main stream, 530 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they're they ain't making income and 531 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: that that their career is quote unquote dead because we 532 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: don't see it in my opinion. 533 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so back to it. Look KM not 534 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: saying k ain't funny. I'm u oh okay, look okay, 535 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm not saying ca I ain't funny. I'm not gonna 536 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: act like I didn't laugh at that. 537 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 3: Stop. That's gay jokes. He delivered them during the special. 538 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: But as I've gotten older and chosen to be more informed, 539 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: I know that these jokes aren't okay. And what and 540 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 2: what's real, true creative comedic genius would be is to 541 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: find the humor and something else that isn't abusive. 542 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: Go to a gay. 543 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: Club, make jokes about how how you ended up on 544 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: the pole or something, talk about how your lesbian cousin 545 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: loves her woman more than you love your wife. Do 546 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: something else besides being the biggest if not, I hope 547 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: his pride is worth less loss of income in the future. Yeah, 548 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: that's the now see that part is the part that 549 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: I never really understand. Why not just because your job 550 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: is a comedian, some people look at I guess they 551 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: look at comedy differently, but a lot of people look 552 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: at comedy is like forcing themselves on the audience. And 553 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: I don't mean that sexually or anything, but like forcing 554 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: their mentality on the audience to where they must laugh 555 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: at what I find funny. And then to me, that's 556 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: not necessarily like comedy is part of that. But to me, 557 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: the best comedy is like kind of taking reading the room, 558 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: reading the world, reading society, and kind of playing with 559 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: where society is at and finding the truth and what 560 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: the humor in those subjects. Like I don't like when 561 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: we talked about Cardi b and all said we weren't 562 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: on here making jokes about how funny it was he. 563 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: Cheated on her, he was gonna get. 564 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: Her back and all this shit be cause to me, 565 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's society's kind of fucked up. That's fucked up. 566 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: That's really not funny to me. But I can make 567 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: fun of him talking about bruh, when you're apologizing to 568 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: a woman that you've scorned and all this shit, like 569 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: to me, that's like, where the funny is. It actually 570 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: took me a day or two to find that it 571 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: wasn't something readily apparent to me. But it's like, God, 572 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: what a ridiculous due you know to do that? Not 573 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: as well, said my nigga, you know what I mean. 574 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: So it's just that moment of like, Okay, that's what's funny. 575 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why comedians always reject and go back 576 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: to like, no, I'm gonna make you one, not all 577 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: to me as well a lot. I'm gonna make you 578 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: laugh at the thing. I said, Fuck what y'all talking about? 579 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: And if your boo me, if you don't want me 580 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: performing in your veny or your college or whatever, that's 581 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: your fault. 582 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm it's not my fault, right. 583 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: And the thing is just looking at Kevin Hart in 584 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: his career, he really wants to please everybody, so you go, 585 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: the last thing he really wanted to do was fuck 586 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: up his bag, and in his mind him rejecting and 587 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: quote unquote not wanting to apologize in his mind, not 588 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: that it made sense in his mind. He was like, 589 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I've already apologized. I feel like I'm tired of apologizing 590 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: for the same maybe. 591 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: This is what he's addressed. He's addressed, he's not apologized. 592 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: I like, the only reason I'm correcting that language is 593 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: because he said addressed, and he said a lot of 594 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: but not just that he did address it. 595 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: He never apologized. 596 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: And I've listened to podcasts at the podcast at the 597 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: podcast of people saying he apologized, and mostly to be 598 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: on his side and make him the victim. He did 599 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: not apologize. I've read those excerpts where he addressed it. 600 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: He didn't apologize. He basically said, I'm gonna stop telling 601 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: those jokes because I don't want to get in trouble. 602 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: He did not say I'm sorry or these jokes were wrong. 603 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: It was y'all too sensitive now. So I think that's 604 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: a very important distinction, And I just want to make 605 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: sure our podcast isn't one contributed to that narrative. 606 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's my bad. But he said he's addressed 607 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: it and he didn't want to address it again. But 608 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: it's differ between addressing something and apologizing. And at the 609 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: end he still ended up doing some. 610 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: For right after all that shitho, you might as well. 611 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: Have apologized when they first came to you, versus telling 612 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: them no. 613 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: Right, I agree. 614 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: Corey says, yes, he will be offered a fewer gigs, 615 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: but he will still get a lot of offers. He 616 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: could probably use a vacation anyway. Who knows, maybe he'll 617 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: now have time to read some books on intersectionality. They 618 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: might end up work, you know, doing a better job, 619 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: you know, at the stuff that he decides to do. 620 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: No, who knows. 621 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: Steven says, Unfortunately, he will not lose word, not because 622 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: he apologize or second time, but because most of the 623 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: industry's responsor has been it was just a joke or 624 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: he said sorry once. What do you want even if, 625 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: even if more even if people won't publicly defend the joke, 626 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: they might have privately laughed to the joke in the past. Now, see, 627 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: that is some real shit, and I think that always 628 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: gets lost into stuff. A lot of the people who 629 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: are going after him, like super woke people being super 630 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: aggressive and all that shit. A lot of those motherfuckers 631 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: did used to laugh at that shit. And that's the 632 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: universal truth that a lot of people don't want to 633 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: talk about because it's very inconvenient to be like, we 634 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: participated to his rise by laughing at that shit, you know, 635 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of his, but whatever, but 636 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: you can find something. 637 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: I guarantee you can find something. 638 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: That I laugh at that you laugh at that everyone 639 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: listening to show laughs at. 640 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: That that is not in job, that does not jive. 641 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: With their political opinions or their personal feelings or whatever 642 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: the fuck. And I feel like the fact that people 643 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: won't admit that is more harmful than even laughing at 644 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: the shit in the first place. 645 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: It's like you're a liar. You're lying to the world. 646 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: I've laughed at Dave Chappelle make jokes about r Kelly 647 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: pan on Girls. I laughed about when you had Friday 648 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: Night Sissy Fighters and they had to dude dancing the 649 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: ass and titties while cutting the grass and leather chaps. 650 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: The show was the most popular show on the earth 651 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: at the time. A lot of people were laughing at 652 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: that shit. Now we go back and if maybe if 653 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: he did the delt today, there might be people that 654 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: don't find it funny. You know, people share videos of 655 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: dudes dressed up in bikinis and dancing and saying all 656 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: kinds of crazy shit, and we laugh at it. But 657 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: someone could be like, well, that's just being transphobic or 658 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: that's being so I think there's this thing where everyone's 659 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: crossed this line into life. We don't even we don't 660 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: even know how anyone ever thought this was okay. It's like, 661 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: that's not realistic. Let's be fair and be like Eddie 662 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: Murphy had the world laughing at his homophobia. He had 663 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: the world laughing because the world's homophobia. We're all complicit 664 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: in that shit. We know better, we hear from more 665 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: voices now for a lot of us, it doesn't mean 666 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: that we can go back and retroactively take back the 667 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: fact that that dude was popular, or the fact that 668 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: people loved him, or the fact that he apologized and 669 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: people still let him quoe unquote stay around. 670 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: We can't take all that back. You know. 671 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: I wish people would just be more realistic about it, 672 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: because if everybody kind of admits that shit, I feel 673 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: like we don't have to be so fake and uptight 674 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: about it. 675 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: You know, I've been seeing well I'll get to this 676 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: in another show. 677 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just weird that people go so hard 678 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: to the point of I think, and I'm saying this 679 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: because I don't want people to exhaust the fucking momentum 680 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: of positive change with like, hey, we need to be 681 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: more sensitive to this, this and this. I think those 682 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 2: are good things. I think when we start lying in 683 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: order to create this false narrative that nobody was ever 684 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: fucking with this shit, I feel like, well, now you're 685 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: making the people on the other side, you're helping them 686 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: because they can be like, no, this was popular. Y'all 687 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: did like this, like y'all like y'all changed, not the comedian, 688 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: not this, not that, and y'all did think it was funny. 689 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: And that's why this person thinks that shit is okay 690 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: to say. And we have to be like, yeah, as 691 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: a society, we got to be accountable for that we 692 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: created this environment, and then we want to just like 693 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: shun the people that use it the profit, as if 694 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: they were just like the good the bad guys, and 695 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: we were all like, I can't believe this is so bad. 696 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: But nah he he rose to promise as a as 697 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: a popular comedian, and because more than black people, but 698 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people thought this shit was okay. 699 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: And if they didn't think it was okay, they chuckled 700 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: and moved on. 701 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, now you know that, now you know the 702 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: other side of that, because we have LGBTQ people talking 703 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: about their lives and being like, yo, someone fucking I 704 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: wanted to kill myself. 705 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: My parents disowned me. 706 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: I was fucking abused because of this, and now we're like, oh, 707 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: so that's why you can't really be on the side of. 708 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: It's funny to be gay. That's it anyway. 709 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: But I know that's a lot longer to say than 710 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: just he's a bad person and we should never laugh. 711 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: In the past, whenever I heard heard another comedians tell 712 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: such a key, low key, high key homophobic jokes, it 713 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: would make me feel uncomfortable, but I would just shrug 714 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: it off and keep and with the rest of the 715 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: comedian's jokes. That now we're in the time of accountability, 716 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: people are find a voice to speak out about these 717 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: micro slash macroaggressions. Yeah, I mean that's the thing, like 718 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: Karen said, when you woke, you can't go back to 719 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: sleep or whatever. It's kind of like that. It's hard 720 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: to turn my brain off of certain shit. And there's I. 721 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: Look, I fucking love Dave Chappelle. I love that. I 722 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 3: think he's so fucking funny. 723 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: I think at his highest of heights he can make 724 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: jokes that nobody else can make and make it make 725 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: sense and make me and make me laugh. 726 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: But his last like two or three. 727 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: Specials, like he got big chunks of the special where 728 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, this shit isn't even really that funny, you know, 729 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: to a certain extent, it's beneath you, you on the 730 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: level of like how funny you can be. Those are 731 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: like jokes you could have cut from your long ass 732 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: sets because just because they were retreads or not funny, 733 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: Like someone's already done the man a woman would a penis. 734 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: Somebody's already done that joke a million times. 735 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: Some fucking like stand up who's just doing like a 736 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: fucking open mic has done that set. It's and it was, 737 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, and it's like it's beneath you to a 738 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: certain extent, Like the story where he talks about winning 739 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of money in a like either a comedy 740 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: or a rap contest or something and walking out, like 741 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: riding the bus back to his house with twenty thousand 742 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: dollars or whatever it was in his backpack and feeling 743 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: like everyone was staring at him and everybody was gonna 744 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: get robbed, and it's like everyone could know and he 745 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: was like looking at people, and then he was like, 746 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: the punchline was something I know, I'm fucking this joke up, 747 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: but the punchline was something like, imagine if I had 748 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: pussy on me all the time. It's just like it 749 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: like basically saying all that to be like, it must 750 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: be scary as fuck to be a woman in the 751 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 2: world of people that look at you the same way 752 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: they would look at you if they knew there was 753 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars in your backpack all the fucking time. 754 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, that's a brilliant fucking analogy. A 755 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: funny ass joke got everybody in the room to do it. 756 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: But it's almost like the masculinity in us, the rebellious 757 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: side of funny people is, especially men. It's just like, 758 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: y'all ain't gonna bitch me and make me say that 759 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: thing that agrees with everybody, so I'm gonna say it 760 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 2: in a way that's actually fucked up. So anyway, I 761 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: don't think Kevin Hard is homophobic, but he is a 762 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 2: sists had black man who might have some more work 763 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: to unlearned. Is in grain homophobia like racism sexism, homophobia 764 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: is ingrained in our cultural fabric, and people are still 765 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 2: learning all the fastest of homophobia that was recently seen 766 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: as acceptable. Yeah, it's not up to me to say 767 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 2: whether he is or not in that way, but I 768 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: think those jokes definitely were, And if somebody were to 769 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 2: say he was, I'd be like, yeah, I'm not gonna 770 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: argue with you. 771 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 3: It's like the offset abuse thing. 772 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: I don't know that it is up to me to 773 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: define what abuse is in that situation. I know if 774 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: somebody said his abuse, I wouldn't argue with him. I'd 775 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: be like, that's you know, like I wouldn't do that shit. 776 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: I don't think it was cool to do. And if 777 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: you want to label it as that's an abusive situation, okay, 778 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: Like I'm not fighting you at all. I don't speak 779 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: for all black lgbtq IA people, but I speak for 780 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: this one here. It's great that he apologized twice now, 781 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: but it would be even greater if he acknowledged the 782 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: impact it had on the community and rebuke those who 783 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: are standing with Kevi in the name of it was 784 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: just a joke, and he already said sorry, I'm not 785 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 2: the cancer culture and I have empathy for his growth 786 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: in that backlash he might have faced, but right now 787 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm not feeling him. In the answer to Poe, he 788 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: won't lose work because people, oh, people don't think the offense. 789 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 3: Is that serious. 790 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: There is so much more to say about all this, 791 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: but I will stop with this. He apologized to America 792 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: about his infidelity and apology he owes to no one 793 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 2: but his wife was reluctant to expand on his apology 794 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: to gay folks. 795 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 3: Sigh. 796 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: You both have beautifully talked about this subject on the 797 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: podcast and on What's the Team with Nick and Rich 798 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: seeing all sides of the issue. 799 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: Killed the good work. Much love, Steven, Thanks Steven, thank 800 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: you very nicely. 801 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: You Yeah, and yeah. That's the thing, man, I like. 802 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: Homophobia is much like the word abuse. Encompass is so 803 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: much shit that I understand when people use it for. 804 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: And this is all relative, but go with me here 805 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: quote unquote little stuff as well as big stuff, like 806 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: so on the scale, let's say, Kevin Harts, I'm gonna 807 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 2: hit my son because he's gay quote unquote joke because 808 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: he was saying it to be funny. To me, that 809 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 2: is less of an offense than the person that says 810 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: I'm seriously going to kill my kid if they're gay, 811 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: because obviously one of y'all is not. It's not even 812 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: a joke. But both of them are still to me homophobic, 813 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Kevin thing about he won't 814 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: play the role of any role that will require him 815 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: to be gay or have a gay be a gay 816 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: character or whatever because of his own hang ups about that, 817 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 2: Like there's a way he could have said that and 818 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 2: and not and maybe even. 819 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: Be a lie. 820 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: But he could have said that same thing by saying, 821 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to take the roles from gay people. 822 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: And if you want to play get one a gay character, 823 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: why not just hire a gay actor and people would 824 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 2: be applauding him, like, yo, thank you, that's what I'm 825 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: talking about. Hid gay people to play gay? What's wrong 826 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: with that? But instead it turned into like, Kama be gay. 827 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna believe that, you know, that type of thing, 828 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 2: and it went the other way. So but uh, yeah, 829 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: Like I appreciate you saying that because we talk about 830 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that in the gray area on 831 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: the show, and it's not as black and white as 832 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: maybe people would like it to be. But I feel 833 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: like it's honest in a way that is not that 834 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: everybody's not being honest like that, you know, or if 835 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: they're honest in you know, they just. 836 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: Feel the way they feel, me feel how we feel. 837 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: Episode eighteen ten, Celebrity Fuckery. We had two comments. This 838 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 2: was the one that started the car to b shit. 839 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: T Bird says, Hey, there. 840 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: Rod and Karen. 841 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 2: I normally not along in agreement and talk to myself 842 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: while listen to your podcast episodes, but today's LGBTQ segment 843 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 2: really hit home for me. I'm far from a religious person, 844 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 2: but I do carry a bit of faith that things 845 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: happened for a reason. I was introduced to your podcast 846 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: maybe three years ago by Dominick rivera shout out to 847 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 2: don out Puerto Rico. 848 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: Uh swall. 849 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: He sold He sold me immediately by describing your podcast 850 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: as a husband and wife who was able to turn 851 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: their conversation with each other into a whole business. I've 852 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: been hooked ever since. I'm a super big fan and 853 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 2: have you guys in my ears honestly every single day 854 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: trying to catch up on old episodes. 855 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 3: But I can say that journey for another time. 856 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: The discussion over the teacher getting fired for intentionally using 857 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: the incorrect pronouns address his student gave me a bit 858 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 2: of hope in this crazy world. 859 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: My fourteen year old son. 860 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 2: Now going by Christopher, came out to us trans about 861 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 2: six months ago, and it's been quite the ride. I've 862 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: been so down while trying to stay positive and supported 863 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: for him, thinking about all the challenges he will face 864 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: with employment discrimination, trying to date, and overall just navigating 865 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: this world surround about so much ignorance. He's so smart, 866 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 2: and I know, as his mom it may sound biased, 867 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: but I know he's fully capable of doing anything he 868 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 2: wants in the future. I'm so fearful of the pushback 869 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: and the doors that were closing his face simply because 870 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: he is living in his truth. We are currently in 871 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: the process of meeting with the school counselor to find 872 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 2: out what the steps are to officially change his name 873 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: in the school, how they address the bathrooms, and exactly 874 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 2: what rights we have. YO, this is one that's so 875 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: dope that y'all are so proactive to go try to 876 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: tackle that before him. 877 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: Be no shocks, so we can do whatever, So we 878 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: can go ahead and make pre and make decisions up 879 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: front right that's so. 880 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: Being proactive in that situation because it has to be 881 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: new to you, it has to be foreign to you 882 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: to then have to go and be proactive on this. 883 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 3: That's really smart. 884 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: And because she's like, I don't want no surprise to 885 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: quote unquote surprises, right. 886 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 2: And the other thing is these are considerations that I 887 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 2: think a lot of people don't even think about. Like 888 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: it's never crossed my mind really that, oh, yeah, if 889 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 2: this is your child, I need to go figure out 890 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 2: how are we changing his name? How are we making 891 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 2: sure he's addressed correctly? How are we making sure he's 892 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: okay with the bathroom situation? What is the thing with 893 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 2: the locker room? Like, how are y'all gonna treat this? 894 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: What is my child most comfortable with? Like I don't 895 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: want like yeah, because I'm trying not to have any problems, 896 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 2: and I need to know now if y'all gonna be 897 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: a problem, because I don't want to have to be 898 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: up here ready to fucking fight every week. 899 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 4: Right, And I can put my child some you know. 900 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 3: Because I will be up here, not just. 901 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 2: Kidding right up here if needed, right, I will come 902 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: my ass We live in northern Virginia, so My ears 903 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: definitely perked up when I heard about the firing this teacher. 904 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: Although this happened in southern Virginia, I've been assured by 905 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 2: other parents that our high school is really progressive and 906 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: accepting of other trans students that are attending. But that 907 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: can only ease my fear so much. Wanted to say 908 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: that I appreciate you guys bringing these issues to light 909 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 2: so often. Sometimes I really feel alone in this, and 910 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 2: I just wanted to protect my child. 911 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: Hearing you guys passionate on the subject wares my heart. 912 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: And I really think it was kids Met that I 913 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: started listening to, and I have to say I found 914 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: strength at times in your voices. Oh anyway, this was 915 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: extra long. Sorry, don't need to apologize. Just know you 916 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: guys continue inspiring. Although you may not have asked the 917 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: b ro models, my son definitely looks up to both 918 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 2: of you. 919 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 3: Oh. 920 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: Our favorite thing, thank you, and our favorite thing is 921 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 2: a sing a long and dance to Sylvesters. Do you 922 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 2: want to funk? Take care of Love you guys, Tianna 923 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: b ak Oh. 924 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 3: Curvey TV Oh Instagram Faith. 925 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope, and I'm sorry that after selvester, we 926 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 2: have to do all that Harvard News. 927 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry your. 928 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: Dance up front so you can get trying to spread awareness, 929 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We're trying to, uh you know, 930 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: trying to shed some light on some things. 931 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I'm sorry that right after that, it 932 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: becomes the fucking uh crossroads. 933 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: Kyle says, as someone who was a Kanye fan since 934 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 2: middle school. 935 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 3: Here and ye talk about how people need to respect 936 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 3: his mental health is rich? 937 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: What about all the people you talked about over the years, 938 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 2: what about Whitney Houston's family of amburrolls, same old Kanye. 939 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's. 940 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 2: Funny because of this episode in particular, I don't know 941 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: how it happened, but people are only focused on, well, 942 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 2: I know how it happened because Cardi is a lot 943 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: of people's faith. People only focused on the Cardi B segment. 944 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: But I mean, ain't nobody right in to be like, 945 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: y'all really didn't give the time to Kanye's mental health, 946 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: or y'all didn't get a time to Pete Davis and 947 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 2: suicidal ideations, or y'all didn't you know, I need you 948 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: to be more clear because everybody, because my whole point 949 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: with this episode like so much shit was happening before 950 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: you can analyze anything, it was on to the next thing. 951 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: It was like another nigga was fighting before you get 952 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: even talk. It's like motherfuckers was already on the internet 953 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: being like no, this Ariana Grande is trying to make 954 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 2: Pete Davis and kill himself and I'm like what. And 955 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: then before you can say anything, it's like Todd Reese 956 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 2: is like, y'all need to stop fighting. 957 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 3: I'm like, WHOA where you come from? 958 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 2: Celebrity death matches in this scene, right, will Cardi take 959 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: off set back? Yes and they'll live happily ever after, 960 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 2: Yes but he gonna cheat again? 961 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 3: Or no? That was the pole, Karen, I hate to yesain. 962 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: Seventy the audience agrees with you, Yes, but he gonna 963 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: cheat again. Four percent say yes and they'll live happily 964 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: ever after, twenty one. 965 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 3: Percent say no. 966 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: I hope it's the first one. 967 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 2: I really meant to add one more option, which is yes, 968 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 2: but she gonna cheat. But uh I forgot uh cet 969 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: says ha yo. These poor Poe rezolts have me cracking up. 970 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: As a Thursday evening, everybody said yes that nigga gonna 971 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:49,959 Speaker 2: cheat again. 972 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 3: It took me out, but for real, he gets more. 973 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 2: So he getting someone pregnant and they gonna call it 974 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: a comeback when they get over the break baby and 975 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 2: coach it has a little brother, then it's gonna be 976 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: hashtag black love up and down my timeline. 977 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: Laugh my ass off. Don't at me. It's just jokes. 978 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 3: But love y'all. 979 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 2: B ha, Yeah, it's funny cet because well as of 980 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 2: this recording, they already did. 981 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 3: They went on vacation for Christmas together and took a picture. 982 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: On a jet ski at the same time smiling at 983 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: the camera and shit, and I was just like, this 984 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: is why I do not investing them loving hip hop 985 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: ass relationships. 986 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 3: Man, Like I'm not doing it. 987 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going through this with everybody, Like I know 988 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 2: that's people fave, but I'm not about to be using 989 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 2: her as a launching pad to talk about relationships. 990 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 4: Man. 991 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: It's it's just futile. If you've been keeping up with 992 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: her and. 993 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: Since since the start, then you know that it's gonna 994 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: be some situations where it's just gonna be like a 995 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 2: Facebook mean, you know, like you know, like the father 996 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 2: wrote in and said that like she took the picture 997 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 2: of the baby and put it online when she wasn't 998 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 2: supposed to do that, and it messed up the record 999 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: for the Ain't nobody gonna accuse her of financial abuse 1000 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 2: or child abuse or whatever for them pictures like they 1001 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 2: like Cardi, you know, and that if that was the 1002 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: opposite way, if she was gonna use the baby for 1003 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 2: some promo and and offset. 1004 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 3: Was the one leaking the pictures. 1005 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know I'm right on this, Like I 1006 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 2: don't know, I'm just not caught up in the hype 1007 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: on it, so I know that I'm not tripping when 1008 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying I see a lot of people that are 1009 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: more about liking her than they are about whether or 1010 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: not this shit qualifies as whatever, Like it's but they 1011 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 2: don't want to hear that shit because you know, that's 1012 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: too real, Like they just want you to go along 1013 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 2: and be like, Yep, it's everything, yep, yep, everything. 1014 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 3: Y'all said is right. 1015 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 2: All these other niggas is wrong, and I'm like, no, 1016 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: them niggas is wrong. But also I be careful investing 1017 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 2: too much and Cardi because she live a crazy life 1018 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 2: and she don't really give a fuck what we think. 1019 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: And then also the other reason I said it the 1020 00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: way I said it is because I like to at 1021 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 2: least room for the fact that if this shit turns 1022 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: out to all be a publicity stunt, I want to 1023 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: be like, okay, cool, like I don't hate either one 1024 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: of y'all or whatever. And for everybody that got upset, 1025 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: that's fine, Like y'all got to deal with them people. 1026 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think it's beyond a reality 1027 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 2: star and a couple that lives that much through like 1028 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: Instagram and shit to have like think that they're especially 1029 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: after Beyonce and jay Z kind of sold their relationship trauma. 1030 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it's beyond anybody anymore to be like 1031 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 2: they could be selling this shit. 1032 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1033 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 2: You hope it, You hope that people are being honest 1034 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 2: and real, but I don't know anybody anyway. Moni says, 1035 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: epis so eighteen eleven fantasy hate crime, rid over here 1036 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 2: concerned about the wrong things with that pastor my man 1037 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: don't even give his wife the best lambo money could buy. 1038 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 3: We had to be mam. Jesus wouldn't know you have 1039 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 3: the best limbo? 1040 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: What kind of broke boy teacher preacher is that he 1041 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: couldn't afford the Lamborghini Veino wait, Vanino roadster. It's only 1042 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: a cool four point five million, But my man with 1043 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: an understated struggle car. 1044 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 3: You should really be thanking him. Don't worry about what 1045 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 3: me and my wife do. I hear you. 1046 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't worry ibout what's going on to the type 1047 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: of things while I'm at at, Anonymous says, I'm black 1048 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: and Latino. 1049 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 3: You could be both black as a race, Latinos and 1050 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: ethnic city. 1051 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 2: We we know, uh, I know, guess the race is 1052 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 2: just the game. But I definitely wanted the bonus round 1053 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 2: this week my point. Oh so you got it right? Okay, Anonymous, 1054 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: good for you, But yeah, we know edie. He says, 1055 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 2: has anyone seen Megan Kelly lately? Because I think she's 1056 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 2: the one who vanilized Black Center? He shaking Black Center. 1057 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 2: It's not photoshot that the poe was. Which one is better? 1058 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: Love and light or thoughts and prayers? 1059 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 3: Okay? 1060 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 4: Which one is better? 1061 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 3: Which one do you prefer? 1062 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 4: Living? I prefer living light? 1063 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I think I prefer thoughts and prayers. 1064 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: If you're gonna see me something. Thoughts and prayers got 1065 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 2: a bad rap because of you know, some shoot school shootings. 1066 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 4: Right, That's how I was like a little and light. 1067 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't mind thoughts and prayers, and you know, 1068 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. 1069 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 4: At least I know you're thinking about me. 1070 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, like, on the off chance that I'm 1071 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 2: wrong about this whole God thing, you know, I appreciate 1072 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: the thoughts. 1073 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 3: And the prayers more than the love and the light. 1074 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: You know, let's cover our basis. That's all I'm saying. 1075 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 2: What if I'm wrong, send me some thighs of prayers. 1076 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 2: He might be listening. I don't know what's she I 1077 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 2: don't know. They have no idea what's going on with there? 1078 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 2: Uh so, Stevens. So anyway, seventy percent of people say 1079 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 2: love and light. Thirty percent said thoughts and prayers. That's 1080 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 2: the prayers. Need better pr man, right, Stephen says, well, actually, lol, 1081 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,919 Speaker 2: love and light is my agnostic, non Christian wal of saying. 1082 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to actually pray for you, 1083 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 2: so love and light. Wow, I bet you won't type 1084 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 2: that whole thing out, Stephen. Next time, if my mother's 1085 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 2: in the hospital, well, I'm not gonna actually pray for you, 1086 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 2: but love and light truly lol at Bohemian rap CDs. 1087 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: Lol. 1088 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 2: Another note, preachers do and should get paid the salary, 1089 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: especially if that is that full time job bigger than church. 1090 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 3: Big of the salary. Yeah, I mean sure, But. 1091 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 2: My nigga, that's a little bit slippery slope as to 1092 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 2: what becomes ostentatious and what is a kind of a 1093 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 2: legitimate salary. Like a lot of people do kind of 1094 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: feed into this whole, Like my preacher is a mascot. 1095 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: He got the biggest house, They made a highway ramp 1096 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 2: for him to go straight to church, he got a limo. 1097 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 3: He look at his clothes. That I've seen that, at 1098 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: least within the Black community. 1099 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 2: I'm guessing white people probably to have some similar stuff 1100 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 2: with their megachurch preachers. But I've seen, I've been privy 1101 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: to those conversations, and that shit ain't about Jesus at all. 1102 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 2: Last of y'all ain't shit for making puns of the 1103 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: man down outside the wingspot. That's someone's brother, father son. 1104 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 2: There are many people who hold him tenderly in their hearts. 1105 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 2: See what you did, mm hm hmmm. 1106 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 3: That's messed up. 1107 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 4: Man. 1108 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna get all sad and blue cheese 1109 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 2: over this. Ah Cet says, love and light is whack. 1110 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 2: Doos and prayers just give sound like a smart ass comment, 1111 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: but aha, but makes me laugh and think someone. 1112 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: Is being shady. 1113 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: It's classic dosad prayers is good for sast sarcasm, though 1114 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 2: I did not think of. 1115 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,240 Speaker 4: That because I don't ever use it in that manner. 1116 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: Off set Gate Day three, we got many, many comments, 1117 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 2: eight comments on this one. 1118 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 4: Let's see what to say. 1119 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about a lot of stuff, though not 1120 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 2: just offset, but still so let's see you had something 1121 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 2: to say. Ray says, I just want to say I 1122 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 2: appreciate your nuanced approach to Cardi b offset issue. One 1123 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 2: thing that very few people realize is that sometimes abuse 1124 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: victims don't want to leave their abuses. 1125 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 3: Stockholm syndrome is very real. 1126 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 2: A lot of these situations about dependency of some kind, 1127 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 2: or it's possible to victim grow up in an abusive home, 1128 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 2: so they view that treatment as quote unquote love, which 1129 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 2: allows them to accept it. Abuse, especially in romantic relationships, 1130 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 2: isn't an easy problem to fix, even more so when 1131 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: they are kids in the picture. Women sometimes choose to 1132 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: suffer more than they usually would for the sake of 1133 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 2: their children. Right, You're right, we don't know the details 1134 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 2: of what's going on, and even if we did, Cardi 1135 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 2: is the only person. 1136 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 3: Who could stop it. That's all I'm saying. 1137 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 2: It's hard to watch people we care about. I'll go 1138 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: through this, but we must allow people to freedom to 1139 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: make them mistakes. I wish Cardi like I wish Carti 1140 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: like I wish for any abused parton. I wish them 1141 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 2: safety and courage find a healthy relationship. 1142 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 3: I swear that. That's all I'm saying. 1143 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 2: I don't know how that's confusing, cause I'm like, I 1144 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 2: don't know her to know what is actually happening. And 1145 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 2: I think any of us that feel like we absolutely 1146 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 2: know what's happening, then we are gotten. 1147 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 3: We've lost the plot. We don't know these people. 1148 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 2: You know, when I saw people saying she was gonna 1149 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 2: get murdered, she was being beaten and stuff. If y'all 1150 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 2: have some evidence of that or whatever other than just 1151 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 2: an inclination, then so be it. But I don't have 1152 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 2: enough experience with that type of lifestyle or what people 1153 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 2: like that do to even be like as a well, 1154 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 2: my opinion, they definitely doing this. 1155 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 3: That and the other so people. 1156 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 2: It's like people wanted me to like, I don't know, 1157 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 2: dance form or something like, to present their opinion as 1158 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 2: my opinion. I don't know, And there's nothing wrong with 1159 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 2: me not knowing that. I'm not a bad person and 1160 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm not on offset side for not fucking knowing what 1161 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 2: this is like for not being like cause I don't, 1162 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 2: like I said, I know how I feel about my 1163 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 2: personal relationship, but I don't know how everybody feels or 1164 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 2: if that is even societally acceptable. There's things within my 1165 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 2: relationship I would never tolerate that. Before you get to 1166 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 2: this offset shit, y'all, you people that are listening, go 1167 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 2: through these things and deal with these things every single 1168 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: day and find a way to make your quote unquote 1169 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 2: love work. And I don't want to pass judgment on 1170 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 2: you because it's not my fucking business. 1171 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 4: Right, it's not my relationship. 1172 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about physical violence or any of 1173 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 2: that shit I'm talking about. 1174 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 3: I don't like. 1175 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't do the silent treatment. If we're not like 1176 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 2: we talk here, you know what I mean. We don't 1177 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 2: raise our voices, we don't yell at each other, we 1178 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 2: don't call each other. 1179 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: Names, we don't fuss and fight like like like we 1180 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: might jokefully like call each other, you know, but not 1181 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: in an argument. 1182 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 4: Right, like, not when no anger is up. 1183 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: And like I said, these are things that people consider 1184 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: normal because society has taught you that it's normal. So 1185 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to abuse, everybody has a different definition 1186 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: of what it is like For me, like I'm saying, 1187 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,479 Speaker 1: those are things that I would not talk about. 1188 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 3: We don't leave the house. 1189 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 2: We don't do that thing where like one of us 1190 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 2: is upset or one of us wants to talk and 1191 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 2: the other one goes, I gotta get out of here. 1192 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 2: A lot of people do that, not just me, a 1193 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 2: lot of people, you know. And I to me, I'm like, 1194 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 2: that's a fucked up thing to do to somebody. They 1195 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 2: clearly want to have this conversation. You can't sit there 1196 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 2: and at least listen to them or whatever. So the 1197 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 2: they aren't even like things that people consist This is 1198 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 2: just communication for most people. 1199 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 3: They do not consider this to be abused. They do 1200 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: not consider this. 1201 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 2: These are things where I feel like, you know, I 1202 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,479 Speaker 2: feel like I'm outside of what people consider the norm 1203 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 2: for this kind of shit. Yes, So then people are like, well, 1204 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 2: you have to label this. I don't fucking know, you 1205 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, because I know you would. Most 1206 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 2: people would not label, uh, you gotta sleep on the couch. 1207 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 2: Most people don't label that as abuse. 1208 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 3: To me, I'm like, why fuck would someone had to 1209 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 3: sleep on the couch in the house. 1210 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 2: They pay rent for, Like y'all can't figure a way 1211 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 2: out as adults to sleep in the same fucking bed. Like, 1212 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 2: that's that's wow to me. You know, even cheating, there's 1213 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 2: a lot of relationships go through cheating and overcome it. Now, 1214 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 2: I would not say that cheating isn't isn't abusive. 1215 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 3: I think it is. You know, it's a violation of trust, 1216 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 3: a bunch of shit. 1217 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 2: But a lot of people wouldn't label cheating by itself 1218 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 2: as abusive. They would label serial cheating what they might 1219 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 2: call abusive. Some people didn't even say that depending on 1220 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 2: that you married this type of person, so you know 1221 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 2: they gonna I don't fucking know it's the point, and 1222 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,479 Speaker 2: I'm not a goddamn expert on this, but I will 1223 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 2: give you my opinion. 1224 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 3: So I feel like that's kind of the thing where 1225 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 3: it's like. 1226 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 2: I'm saying, it's messy and complicated, and I don't know 1227 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, but people are making it online. 1228 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 3: This is how it started. Conversation Sunday. 1229 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 2: Online, people are making a conversation as simple as uh, uh, 1230 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 2: he gonna kill her, so you need to leave. 1231 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 3: Uh. This is just like my cousin who got out 1232 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 3: of that. 1233 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Okay, maybe that is what's happening, but 1234 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 2: it could it could also be other things, and no 1235 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: one wants to allow for the possibility that it could 1236 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 2: be like jay Z cheating on y'all say, and somehow 1237 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,240 Speaker 2: they figured some way out and started and made it work, 1238 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 2: and he worked on himself and all that shit, but 1239 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 2: at the time everyone was his team. Get the fuck 1240 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 2: out of there, leave him. I can't believe he cheated 1241 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 2: on the Queen. This is abusive, now, you know. I'm 1242 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 2: sure there's still people that that that way. And this 1243 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 2: part of the problem of putting your life out in 1244 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 2: public that much, you know, And we're talking to people 1245 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 2: that put well Cardi anyway, who puts a lot of 1246 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 2: shit out here, and it's like a Facebook meme. She 1247 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 2: ain't never been a quote unquote perfect person anyway, So 1248 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 2: you're not really gonna be able to build this case 1249 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: of and these are what healthy relationships look like versus 1250 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 2: unhealthy relationships. Like if a person, especially a person with 1251 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 2: their own autonomy, wants to be in unhealthy relationships because 1252 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: they don't consider them to not be fucked up, I 1253 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 1254 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1255 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 2: I just know personally, I'm taking it the same way 1256 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: I take it when I watch Love and hip Hop. 1257 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 2: When we watch Love and Hip Hop, I've never come 1258 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 2: on this show and said, you know, Stevie J and me, me, 1259 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 2: that's such an abusive relationship. I know it's abusive. It's 1260 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: on TV though, because it's normalized. You know, you know 1261 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: what else is fucking abusive rom coms, most TV shows 1262 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 2: that involve a married couple or a couple that's whatever 1263 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,439 Speaker 2: they always do, shit that is foul to each other. 1264 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 2: Insecure is abusive, where there's Easter cheating on Lawrence, Lawrence's 1265 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 2: anger over it, and all this, Like all of that 1266 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 2: shit has stuff in it, these levels, and so it's 1267 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: weird that people got hung up on you got to 1268 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 2: say it's abusive more so than what the fuck I 1269 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 2: was trying to say, which is like there's levels to 1270 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 2: all this stuff, and there's a lot of gray area 1271 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: when you're dealing with two individuals and trying to make 1272 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 2: them a case study for the world. I don't know 1273 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, and I don't know what to even 1274 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 2: call what is happening. 1275 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 3: And I'm not knocking anyone who feels strongly. 1276 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 2: That they feel like I know for sure, this is 1277 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 2: what's happening and this is how it goes. I've been 1278 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 2: here before, I've had friends like this. I haven't, so 1279 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, So take my opinion with a grain 1280 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 2: of salt. I don't know. I'm leaving room for whatever happens. 1281 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 3: To happen, you know. I think what would be the. 1282 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 2: Most fucked up is probably if it's all a pr snunt, 1283 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 2: which I have to leave room for because unlike a 1284 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 2: lot of folks, I'm not as convinced that it's impossible 1285 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 2: for this to be some type of coordinated thing. I 1286 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 2: hope it's not, you know, if I was betting, i'd 1287 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 2: say it wasn't. But I also don't know them, and 1288 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 2: it maybe there's a way that they thought this would 1289 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 2: be cute and funny, and you come, oh, or it's 1290 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 2: cute and nice or whatever, and you apologize me and 1291 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 2: all this stuff would be a big deal. I don't 1292 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 2: know when you got people involved in this shit like publicists, 1293 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: venues and all this stuff behind the scenes and no 1294 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 2: one's and we're told, hey, don't be mad at any 1295 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 2: of these people. None of them did anything wrong. Y'all 1296 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 2: stay out of my life. 1297 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 3: Okay. 1298 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 2: The most I can give you is okay, I'll stay 1299 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 2: out of your I don't. I will eject from that 1300 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 2: part of your life. I love your music videos. I 1301 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 2: think you're a very funny, charming person, but I don't 1302 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 2: personally want to consume your personal life as entertainment in 1303 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 2: the way that it seems the majority of people that 1304 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 2: follow her would like to consume her personal life is entertainment. 1305 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 3: I'm off of that part. I just like it's too much. 1306 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:01,439 Speaker 4: Yep. 1307 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: But like I said on a free game show, mascot 1308 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: celebrities are nothing more than mascots something to quote unquote 1309 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: group for And if you don't agree with my mascot, 1310 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: you know you're not on my team. And I for 1311 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people, is that couldn't dry? 1312 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? I can't. I don't know, man. 1313 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 2: It's something about her has made people be like, it's 1314 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 2: different than watching black Ink, It's different than love and 1315 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 2: hip hop. 1316 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 3: It's different. 1317 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know when it became different 1318 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 2: for everybody else, But I don't think I'm there yet. 1319 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 3: I think it's the. 1320 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Same correct where it's still to me, like you kind 1321 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 2: of like dog ass niggas that dog you out. Whether 1322 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 2: it's for entertainment, whether it's just for your real life, 1323 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it consistently has been a thing. 1324 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 2: Either you grow out of that or some people deal 1325 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 2: with that shit they whole life. 1326 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. 1327 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of old women to deal 1328 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 4: with shit like that. 1329 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 2: It's like if there would have been a reality show 1330 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 2: where Mary J. Blibers dating Jojo I mean Jake and 1331 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 2: k C. Dayton Casey, like our life would, it would 1332 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 2: have been totally different than how we view it now. Yes, 1333 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 2: you know, so I don't know, man, I don't know. 1334 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 2: I just feel like it's so black and white for folks. 1335 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 2: But I appreciate you saying that because it is kind. 1336 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Of nuanced to us. 1337 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 2: GWG says, I also came here to say I appreciate 1338 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 2: you know, our sketched from you both. This is your 1339 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 2: this is your What's the Teeth feature this week felt 1340 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,439 Speaker 2: like listening to expert panelists who only know what they're 1341 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 2: talking about, but come through with the empathy and sympathy. 1342 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, Caring to Rob, Thank you, book. 1343 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 2: And shoe based I thought you and Karen gave a 1344 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 2: very nuanced through examination of the CARDI Being offset relationship 1345 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 2: as much as a person who was not directly involved 1346 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 2: with them can do. I'm very surprised by how much 1347 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 2: attention this is getting. 1348 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Personally. I don't have a dog in a fight. 1349 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 2: I said what I said, Peter, I think you mean 1350 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't have a dog in this shower. 1351 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 3: I don't know this dog. You know, I don't have 1352 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 3: a dog in this hot house. 1353 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 2: But I am curious and amused by social media's reaction, 1354 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 2: not the serious ones, but the ones of the mean variety. Yeah, man, 1355 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: y'all don't know. It's really uh because it bothered me 1356 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 2: the way that people were talking, you know, or saying 1357 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 2: that they felt I was being. 1358 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 3: And I appreciate y'all that wrote in to be like nah. 1359 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 2: I thought y'all was approaching it with nuance and not 1360 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 2: just you know, like black and white or taking this 1361 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 2: dude's side or saying this shit is okay, because I 1362 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 2: really I went back and listened to those episodes and 1363 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 2: I gotta disagree with the people that I mean, I hate, 1364 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 2: I deal with people, ask I reconsider. I went back 1365 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 2: and look, and I hope that by the time we 1366 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 2: talked about it Wednesday, it was more clear, which. 1367 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 3: Is my only goal. I don't want to be misunderstood. 1368 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 3: But I disagreed that I wasn't clear before. 1369 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 2: I thought I was clear the whole time, and I'm 1370 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 2: sorry if if you know, it didn't feel that way 1371 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 2: to people. But I really thought I was clear. I 1372 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 2: don't even feel like I was. I feel like I 1373 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 2: repeat myself now. I don't think I said anything really 1374 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 2: different in those three days. 1375 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 3: Nothing. There's no contradictory opinion, or I wouldn't. 1376 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 2: Have said this, but now I'm saying like it just 1377 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 2: felt like people needed me to say the words over 1378 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 2: and over and over again to that or something. 1379 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1380 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for putting me on that Miss new York Man. 1381 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it there. Thank you for putting on 1382 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,959 Speaker 2: that Miss new York fenty ad man. I didn't know 1383 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 2: how much I needed to have Miss New York back 1384 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 2: in my pop culture life until I watched that eight 1385 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 2: minute clip. 1386 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 3: I watched it twice. 1387 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 2: My next ot check will go to buying something else 1388 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 2: from the fency line cam. You are so right about 1389 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 2: the Foundation. I will be following Miss New York on Instagram. 1390 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I love the found Yes, all. 1391 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 2: Right, we're whispering now, Kim says the Zoe Kravit situation. 1392 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just whistling, but yes, I do love 1393 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 4: the Foundation and thank you. 1394 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 3: Uh, I'm like, I don't feel myself. 1395 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 4: Here and go, I know what happened to it? Did 1396 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 4: she disappeared? 1397 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 2: The Zoe Kravit situation leaves me a question, says Kim. 1398 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 2: I've heard her talk about this before, maybe a year ago. 1399 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 2: Shouldn't part of this question of be of her parents, 1400 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 2: like why didn't they subject the more black people. I know, 1401 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 2: of course that some black people gravitate to other cultures, 1402 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 2: and maybe that was a case for her parents. I 1403 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 2: also don't understand how her not wanting to take certain 1404 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 2: roles because she doesn't relate. 1405 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 3: Is that part of acting? Isn't that part of acting? Yeah? 1406 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 2: I agree with that part actually, but I can understand, Uh. 1407 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 3: It's that thing where. 1408 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 2: You're almost doing the respectability thing while saying you're it's 1409 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 2: because you're anti that, you know what I mean? 1410 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 3: Like, so now you've let. 1411 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 2: It define you the other way, like well I won't 1412 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 2: play any ghetto active parts. 1413 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 3: It's like, well, you could add nuance. 1414 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily have to be Well, I don't come 1415 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 2: from that. I don't know anything about that type of 1416 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 2: black And it's like, well that's what acting is, you know, 1417 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: becoming to someone else, researching and learning. I'm kind of judging, 1418 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 2: but not really because I'm not that invested. There were 1419 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 2: there were just two things I thought about. I love 1420 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 2: y'all shows and always great, thank you for keeping smile 1421 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 2: on my face and keeping giving me a belly full 1422 01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 2: of laughs. 1423 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Thanks Kim you. 1424 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, and yet I don't know what 1425 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 2: her parents would say. 1426 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 3: I thought about that too during the thing, but they 1427 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 3: didn't interview her parents. But uh, yeah, I don't know 1428 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 3: what her parents would say, like how would that happen? 1429 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 4: That, you know? 1430 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 2: And maybe they were giving her freedom in a way 1431 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 2: that black children don't often get freedom, correct, you know, 1432 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 2: and being like, well, look you will come to that 1433 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 2: awakening as you see fit. 1434 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 1: On your own, you know, versus a lot of use. 1435 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: We ain't got no mother fucking choice. But like, look, 1436 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: you step outside his house, it's some fuck shit out there. 1437 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't want you to go out there unprepared versus 1438 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 1: you know. Their child may have had a luxury to 1439 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: quote unquote growing to their own, growing to their black blackness. 1440 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Take your time the shit that white children deal with, right. 1441 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Katrice two six says the Cardi b Offset drama exactly 1442 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 2: why I left the internets come on just too many 1443 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 2: opinions and emotions. Though I found myself empathizing with afsets father. 1444 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 2: It seemed like he just needed to vent and gave 1445 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 2: a pretty fair depiction slash response to all the drama. 1446 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 2: It didn't seem like he was trying to be ashy 1447 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 2: or put out the blame on Cardi, but that he 1448 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 2: agreed with some. 1449 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 3: Of what you've been saying. 1450 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 4: Rod. 1451 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 3: They're young with money and not trying to listen to anyone. Yeah. 1452 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 2: See, he also says some shit in there where I 1453 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 2: was like, now see, I don't know what you do 1454 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 2: about because he was like, we don't have to come 1455 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 2: over there, y'all. Don't get these late night phone calls. 1456 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 2: Y'all don't know about this drug use, and you know what, 1457 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 2: He's absolutely fucking right. 1458 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know them, you know what 1459 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 3: I mean? 1460 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 2: And if I got a phone call at I don't know, 1461 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 2: two three in the morning about you know, my son, 1462 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 2: my grandchild and the woman that he's married with and 1463 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 2: they're fighting and there's drug use and there's infidelity, I 1464 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 2: might not have a neat answer for everybody that's gonna 1465 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 2: fix everything, you know. 1466 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 1467 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: And I think it's easy for us on the outside 1468 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 2: because we don't have really any truly investment other than 1469 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 2: we find these people to be entertainment correct, it's easy 1470 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: for us to just be like, it's either this or that. 1471 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1472 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 2: It made me see another unattended coust of fame, especially 1473 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 2: in our current culture. How to fame affect families, like 1474 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 2: times as Beyonce's ape cousin get asked about her or 1475 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 2: for free tickets to a concert has to be over 1476 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 2: women and annoying for some because they didn't sign up 1477 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 2: for it. Obviously, like in Megan Markle's case, some members 1478 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 2: will exploit it. 1479 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, another thing that I would add to that too, is. 1480 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: It also says a lot when fame is its own currency, 1481 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 2: and the pursuit of fame is a goal in a way, 1482 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 2: you know, like Cardi's getting to the money. 1483 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of. 1484 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Women like Cardi, a lot of people like Carti who 1485 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 2: are just sharing their lives on the internet, hoping to 1486 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 2: be the next person that gets famous off of just 1487 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 2: sharing their life on the internet. Anonymous says, I don't 1488 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 2: know why people are hating on the man's albums. That 1489 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 2: song is definitely about cheating. All said, don't need to 1490 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 2: play that for Cardy. He needs to listen to it 1491 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 2: and get his corn effactor up. And I do think 1492 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 2: being corney helps with being in love, y'all. Marlow right saying, 1493 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate the clarification, and I think I understand what 1494 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 2: you're trying to say. However, I will be honest. I 1495 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,919 Speaker 2: do not think it was clear when you spoke about 1496 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 2: this earlier. No one is saying she won't choose to stay. 1497 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 2: But identifying toxic behavior doesn't mean you are triggered or projecting. 1498 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 2: I just want to say because this is very important, 1499 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 2: because this is I think divorcing what I said from context, 1500 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 2: and this is the kind of thing that speaking of 1501 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 2: being triggered, this is one of my triggers, to be honest, 1502 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna try to like come down on you, 1503 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 2: but that is absolutely not what I said. I said 1504 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: when you say stuff like he's going to kill her 1505 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 2: or he is beating her, or like this definitely means 1506 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,640 Speaker 2: blank that to me is being triggered and projecting. 1507 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,679 Speaker 3: To say this is toxic is not being triggered or projecting. 1508 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 3: I agree that it is toxic. You know. 1509 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 2: I think the entire way that people define love in 1510 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 2: America for most part, maybe in the world, but. 1511 01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 3: Definitely America, is toxic. 1512 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 2: It's very confining, it's very limiting, it's very restrictive, it's 1513 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 2: very much about power, dominance, control. It's fucked up. And 1514 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 2: that's before you even add gender into it. To be honest, 1515 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 2: and the gendered way that we look at it in 1516 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 2: same sex relationships, much of it is this way as well, 1517 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 2: where it's about one person quote unquote winning this power battle. 1518 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Most people, in my opinion, that I've talked to about 1519 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 2: love see it as some type of power battle. You know, 1520 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,759 Speaker 2: it's not. I don't think love. The way we define 1521 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 2: love is just not healthy in America. I just don't 1522 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 2: like talking about it too much because it comes off 1523 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 2: like I'm feeling like I'm holier than now, I'm better 1524 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 2: than everybody, or some shit like that. I just think 1525 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 2: I'm very fucking lucky. I'm very lucky to have found Karen. 1526 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm very lucky to have somebody that we kind of 1527 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 2: speak the. 1528 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 3: Same language when it comes to these things. But it's 1529 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 3: so much deeper. 1530 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 2: I'm not even telling y'all all the things I think 1531 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 2: because it's so much deeper than that. I just know 1532 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 2: in general, it's important. I want to I want to 1533 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 2: keep the importance on what I said and not how 1534 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 2: people are trying to make it seem. Because I did 1535 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 2: not ever say that what he did was not toxic. 1536 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 2: I thought I even said it was emotionally manipulative. It 1537 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 2: was and this is these are words I used before, 1538 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 2: even the abusive category. It's emotionally manipulative. It's entitled we 1539 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 2: think we own women. I don't understand how, how how 1540 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 2: that that's not clear. I just maybe I just have 1541 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 2: like a privilege and a blind spot. 1542 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 3: To to to to this. 1543 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 2: And I'm just not missing I'm missing something and and 1544 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 2: and and if so then you know, I can only 1545 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,719 Speaker 2: say what I what I what I feel and experience 1546 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 2: and a scene. But I don't know, man, I thought 1547 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 2: I cut off, said a lot of stuff that was 1548 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 2: like this is not this is bad way he did 1549 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 2: and that's kind of obvious. The next step becomes like, 1550 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 2: is everyone gonna turn on car party? Is this even 1551 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 2: the end? Is this the beginning? Is it's just another 1552 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 2: thing that is gonna you know, next week he'll be 1553 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 2: doing some other shit, some break baby will be popping 1554 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 2: up next week. 1555 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 4: Year. 1556 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know. 1557 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, the only opinion 1558 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 2: that matters on how bad this was is gonna end 1559 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 2: up being Cardi. And that's a truth that's not just 1560 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 2: an opinion. That's like, the only time is gonna matter, 1561 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 2: the only thing that will change in this situation because 1562 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 2: he's a serial cheater, right he did this shit the 1563 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 2: little like half ass apology and shit. Only when she 1564 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 2: goes this is good, This isn't good for me, this 1565 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: isn't good for my child. If she feels that way, 1566 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 2: then things will change, hopefully, you know. And like I said, 1567 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 2: and even with all that I've kept saying over and over, 1568 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm also allowed for the fact that or maybe I'm 1569 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 2: just fucking wrong, and this dude is back here beating 1570 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 2: on her, being like very like restrictive of her freedom 1571 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 2: and jealous, and he could be doing he could be 1572 01:11:59,120 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 2: the worst fucking person. 1573 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,600 Speaker 3: He could be Lawrence Fishburne. And what's love got to 1574 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 3: do with it? 1575 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 2: I just don't know, that's it, And I don't feel 1576 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 2: and I won't feel bad for saying I don't know. 1577 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,679 Speaker 2: I feel like more people need to be honest with it. 1578 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 4: And right, a thing is the thing. 1579 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 2: And just because society is male oriented doesn't negate the 1580 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 2: issues with these so called romantic gestures. 1581 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 3: When the society ever. 1582 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 2: Championed women, championing women as a whole, it is that 1583 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 2: private life. 1584 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 3: It is their private life, but they have chosen to 1585 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 3: air this out publicly. 1586 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,679 Speaker 2: If you agree with all of that, then there isn't 1587 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 2: anything to this conversation, to this conversation. But as a listener, 1588 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 2: I did not gather that from your previous episode. All right, 1589 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate you clarifying your position further, but I felt 1590 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 2: this was more of a clarity issue than you being 1591 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 2: a man. 1592 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that's fine. It's just weird because me 1593 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 3: and Karen both talked about it. 1594 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 2: So I do feel like it kind of became about 1595 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 2: me being a dude. And that's fine, That's what male 1596 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,839 Speaker 2: privilege is, Like, Yeah. 1597 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna keep rearing out at any period of 1598 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 1: time that with any of these comments directed towards me, 1599 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: and nobody had any period of time right in and 1600 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: be like, well, carrying girl, why didn't you support Cardi 1601 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: while you you know, let her get out here and 1602 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: hung the dry And I said it before and I 1603 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 1: will continue to say this again. People hear what they 1604 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 1: want to hear because I was here too. I heard 1605 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 1: the conversation to me and Right just talked about it online. 1606 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Me and Right to talking I mean not online, but 1607 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 1: me and Right talk about it offline. 1608 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 4: We've had discovered, you know, conversations. 1609 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: He really listened to the show, and it's one. 1610 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,879 Speaker 4: Of those things to where uh. 1611 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 1: And and And it's not even to be dismissive when 1612 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 1: I say this, but sometimes it's just something within you, 1613 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, that makes you feel like we're having a 1614 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 1: fight when there's actually not a fight here. Like we're 1615 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 1: not arguing with you, we're not saying that you're not wrong, 1616 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: you're you're wrong and. 1617 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 4: Feeling this way. 1618 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 1: All we're saying is that there has to be an 1619 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 1: understanding that I said these things and went through them 1620 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,479 Speaker 1: very because Roger picked his words very carefully, and people 1621 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 1: that have listened to this show over the years, there's 1622 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 1: nothing about Roger that will make you think he's ashy, 1623 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 1: that will make you think he's hotel, that will make 1624 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 1: you think that he would come out here and just 1625 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 1: dismiss this dude's actions and totality like to do it 1626 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: was right, And so for me, I feel like certain 1627 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: things was said and people kind of pinpointed those things 1628 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: and was just determined because you're a man, you were 1629 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: automatically wrong, and sometimes that can be a fact that 1630 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 1: that could be true. Please don't get me wrong, But 1631 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,559 Speaker 1: like I said, I was here too. I heard him too. 1632 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Other people wrote in and also said that, you know, 1633 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: they were glad he clarified and they had an understanding 1634 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 1: at some period of time. Baby, it's just you, and 1635 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: you know when you say that, people go, well, you're 1636 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 1: just no, I'm not dismissing anything at all, because actually, 1637 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,919 Speaker 1: like I said right before, we're talking around in circles. 1638 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 4: You're acting like it's a fight. 1639 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: It's not a fight. You're saying we're disagreeing with you. 1640 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 1: We're not disagreeing with you. So then where is this confrontation? 1641 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 1: Where is this friction coming from on your side to 1642 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: make it appear as though we're. 1643 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 4: Arguing with you when actually there's no argument here. 1644 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, in all fairlers, they did say that they 1645 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 2: wanted clarity, and I provided that, so I do. I 1646 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 2: don't know that they think we're disagreeing at this point. 1647 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 3: I would really sincerely hope not. 1648 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 2: I would hope that I've probably been a bit too 1649 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 2: meticulous almost in going back over point by point. This 1650 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 2: is what I mean, this is what I'm saying, And 1651 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, I did want to just kind of confront 1652 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 2: what I consider to be a misrepresentation that you know 1653 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 2: of the like, well, you're projecting if you think it's abuse. No, 1654 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 2: I think if you're saying this means he is like 1655 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 2: he's going to kill her, that that is, to me 1656 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 2: is a projection because we don't know that. That doesn't 1657 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 2: mean it's unrealistic. It's based on nothing or any of 1658 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 2: that shit. Like I said, I mean, I personally wouldn't 1659 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,640 Speaker 2: have put up with any of the ship they have 1660 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:09,639 Speaker 2: done to each other. 1661 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 3: But that's me even he says, oh go ahead, I'm. 1662 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, no, right, And if it's one of those things 1663 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 1: where you feel like we're it's still a disagreement, well 1664 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 1: we just have to agree to disagree. 1665 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,639 Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't. I don't. 1666 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: I don't ever think it was a conflict from the beginning. 1667 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: But I'm okay with you because everybody listen to the 1668 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: show does not one hundred percent agree with us, and 1669 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 1: we're okay with that. 1670 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 4: We don't take it personally. It's not an attack on us. 1671 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Just because we don't say everything that you said, and 1672 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,599 Speaker 1: vice versa. It's fans that voice the opinion that disagree 1673 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 1: with us all the time. That's that's not a problem 1674 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,439 Speaker 1: at all. But you know, I, like I said, I 1675 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 1: just didn't want to sound dismissed it, but like I said, 1676 01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: some period of time, it's it's not us. 1677 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I'm glad that we had a 1678 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 2: feedback for that, for people to come in and voice it, 1679 01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 2: because you know, it helps sharpen my points to be like, well, 1680 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,600 Speaker 2: this is what I want to say. And you know, 1681 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 2: occasionally I'm like, oh, yeah, I absolutely said that wrong, 1682 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 2: or I see the point that I didn't see before 1683 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 2: or whatever. It's just like I said, I really did 1684 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 2: re examine that because I try to be really careful 1685 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 2: about talking about women, especially black women like that on 1686 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,640 Speaker 2: the show. But I would add one more analogy. I 1687 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 2: know everybody's rolling their eyes out in the world, but 1688 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,559 Speaker 2: I would add one more analogy to me. This is 1689 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 2: like Martin lamont Hill last week when Mark lamont Hill 1690 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 2: said that river to the sea shit. We had a 1691 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 2: bit of a conversation about how you don't really wait 1692 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 2: into the water on people like Martin lamont Hill because 1693 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 2: Mark lamont Hill builds houses on sand casts, right, like 1694 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 2: he doesn't build a foundation. He says a lot of 1695 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 2: inflammatory rhetoric, goes off half cocked. His stuff doesn't always 1696 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 2: make sense. He will completely ignore points that he's made 1697 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 2: and have no accountability to him. So I'm not gonna 1698 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,000 Speaker 2: let him being fired be my well, this Jewish thing 1699 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,760 Speaker 2: and we need to talk about it because Israel is 1700 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 2: out of control in Palistini's freedom. Like, I'm not trying 1701 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 2: to say that that's not true, but I would not 1702 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,680 Speaker 2: start that conversation based off of what I consider to 1703 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 2: be a Facebook meme of of a comment by by 1704 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 2: a guy. It's something I don't truly understand with Mark 1705 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 2: Lamont Hill. Well, that's how I feel about this. I'm 1706 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 2: not starting my let's talk about healthy relationships based off 1707 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 2: of Cardi B and her personal life. I just refuse 1708 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,720 Speaker 2: to It's not it's not it's not gonna end up 1709 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 2: in a good place because you're starting with people that 1710 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,759 Speaker 2: are already kind of being fucked up as a living, 1711 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 2: as a brand. Like everyone forgets that if bitch got 1712 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 2: a problem with me, she got a problem forever. Comment 1713 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 2: is not Cardi B saying that because someone did something 1714 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 2: wrong to hers, Because she's talking about taking someone else's man, 1715 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 2: you know, and beating up a woman who flew all 1716 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 2: the way from Europe to be with her boyfriend. She 1717 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 2: beat that woman up and physically solvet her on TV. 1718 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 2: No one carries those things with Cardie. None of us 1719 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,600 Speaker 2: dislikes her because of that. No one said as she 1720 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 2: was wrong in a home rerecord. But instead people get 1721 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,760 Speaker 2: mad at the woman who cheated with offset for going 1722 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,680 Speaker 2: on Instagram and doing interviews about it. 1723 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,320 Speaker 3: What we wouldn't know Cardi if. 1724 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 2: She wasn't doing interviews about cheating with other niggas women 1725 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 2: and other niggas men and shit like. 1726 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 3: It just is what it is. Man, None of none 1727 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 3: of this shit is clean. 1728 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,920 Speaker 2: So I'm just staying I'm trying to have a conversation 1729 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,639 Speaker 2: separate from from that, and I think if any mistake 1730 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 2: was really made, it's just the fact of trying to 1731 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,280 Speaker 2: have a conversation based off of you know, this messy 1732 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:31,760 Speaker 2: ass shit. 1733 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 3: It's not it's not gonna be black and white. 1734 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 1: Right, and it ain't clean, and and you know, the 1735 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 1: reality of it is people don't want to accept sometimes 1736 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:40,920 Speaker 1: the fact that sh it ain't just black and white. 1737 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,599 Speaker 3: All right, all right, let's let's move on. 1738 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 2: Uh Eve says, I'm all for Christians getting that holy 1739 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 2: cake smash smither ring sex, save as many. 1740 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 3: Lives as Jesus true. 1741 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 2: Hey, the poem is Christian? Uh wait, the Christian sex album? 1742 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 2: I guess I fu the type of on this I 1743 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,760 Speaker 2: meant to say, is a Christian sex album good or 1744 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:06,320 Speaker 2: something like that? 1745 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,719 Speaker 3: Or would you listen to one? 1746 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,960 Speaker 2: Yes, chop my Christian case the saintly smithereens Nay. I 1747 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:18,799 Speaker 2: need that Satanic sex, Karen, I need fifty six percent? 1748 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 3: Agree with you. 1749 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,639 Speaker 2: It was close, though, fifty six percent say they need 1750 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 2: some Satanic sex, and forty four percent said they will 1751 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 2: listen to the man's it makes sweet heavenly love. 1752 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 3: Okay. 1753 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 2: Mike and London says, I'm a Buddhist, so it's more 1754 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 2: like like some incense and assume the lotus position, for example, 1755 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 2: and then he put a list. Brooklyn shoe Bay says, 1756 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 2: I'm a Christian and inviting you to go to church 1757 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 2: with me means I have developed very strong feelings for 1758 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 2: you and invited someone into my spiritual life. It's much 1759 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 2: more intimate than inviting you into my body. I don't 1760 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 2: think of myself as corny Christians like Russell Wilson in 1761 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 2: Sierra of Michelle Williams and her now ex fiance, but 1762 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 2: I get down to some Christian love making music. The 1763 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 2: gospel music they played the secular radio could be a 1764 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 2: love song if you listen to it quickly. They never 1765 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,599 Speaker 2: mentioned God or Jesus name. 1766 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 3: Lol. 1767 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 2: I think my parents would love it because they find 1768 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 2: today's R and B pretty voguer. I feel you on that, Yeah, 1769 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,520 Speaker 2: I think people are unfairly hating on this album. 1770 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 3: Also, I reject Russell Wilson. 1771 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 2: This year having corny Christian sex. I think they are 1772 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 2: having some freaky ass sex. Yeah, I think y'all don't 1773 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 2: even know what that man is doing over there. Cet says, 1774 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,759 Speaker 2: I'm Buddhist too. Shout out to the Mike from London, 1775 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 2: thank you, thanks for not being hated. Y'all saw the 1776 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 2: album covering on the Shade Room and surely skipped right over. 1777 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 2: If it wasn't for y'all, I would have never listened 1778 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,679 Speaker 2: heard one song. Now that I heard it, I don't 1779 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 2: completely dismiss it, and it is for people that are 1780 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 2: trying to listen to nice sound of R and B 1781 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,840 Speaker 2: with I regret now is that person me? 1782 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 4: No? 1783 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,799 Speaker 2: But still I won't knock it because it's for someone. 1784 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. 1785 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it was gonna sound way worse than 1786 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:48,000 Speaker 3: it was. 1787 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what was like, come on now. 1788 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, like some of the music sounds bad because they're 1789 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 2: trying to copy secular music, but they can't do the 1790 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,800 Speaker 2: secular shit like especially I can wrap. 1791 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 3: It's like normally the worst with that. So I appreciated 1792 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,639 Speaker 3: this all. 1793 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,680 Speaker 2: Right, Uh eighteen thirteen, we're not in Texas anymore. I 1794 01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 2: had five comments to get to these. Jamel says, I 1795 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,920 Speaker 2: don't want. I don't want shit, just to say, if 1796 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,920 Speaker 2: the ghost priorate was related to offset uh want and 1797 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 2: wanted her back, he would probably say, oh mate, I'm sorry. 1798 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:33,600 Speaker 3: Bruh, that's terrible. Uh it's like Karen level pun. How's that. 1799 01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,679 Speaker 4: You have arrived? You got my level of pun? 1800 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,240 Speaker 2: Ms Anderson says, I'm not sure where in New York 1801 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 2: that person is from, but we do have dollartry in 1802 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 2: Long Island, and I also feel like I'm bothering when 1803 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 2: I live up in there. We are you are right 1804 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,720 Speaker 2: about them killing us though my boss worked for a 1805 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,600 Speaker 2: company that ship stuff to try to be filled with 1806 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 2: some other product and shipped back and sold in the 1807 01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 2: dollar store and name brand packaging. Mmmm, we should We 1808 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,640 Speaker 2: could be dying. We could be lined. She could be lined, though, 1809 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't trust that lady. 1810 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 3: My conspiracy grows. 1811 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the bot down truth because I worked at a 1812 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical place where we actually packed like peels and things 1813 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 1: like that. 1814 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 4: The bottles would change. 1815 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the bottles were the same, the medication was 1816 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:20,759 Speaker 1: the same, y'all. 1817 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 4: Know what changed? 1818 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,920 Speaker 1: The labels they the nose, the bottles. 1819 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 4: Would be blank. It would run down the line. 1820 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 1: It's Tayler. Naw, it run down the line again. It's 1821 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,720 Speaker 1: the Kroger brand. It run down line again, it is 1822 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 1: the off brand. The motherfucking medication inside the bottle did 1823 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,640 Speaker 1: not fucking change. And that's why I know for a 1824 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,760 Speaker 1: fact that a lot of times if you turn the 1825 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 1: flip and flip the boxes and turn the bottle the 1826 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 1: side of the containers with medication, all of them have 1827 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 1: the exact same ingredients in them. 1828 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 4: Okay, so I believe them could because it's probably cheaper. 1829 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 3: I won't lie though I like the name. I don't know. 1830 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,600 Speaker 3: I don't trust them Generics. 1831 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Or Public Tailernod. I'll be going with the tilernand. I 1832 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 2: know they getting me for an extra dollars, but I 1833 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 2: mean it's in case. 1834 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and sometimes I do it too, just because 1835 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'd rather spend the extra money too. 1836 01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 3: I mean, no, I'm just saying they got me here. 1837 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm not. 1838 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying, you know for a fact, the truth, and 1839 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 2: they still got me. I was like, rover testing or 1840 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 2: Public's are testing. No, if that's the case, I'm going 1841 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,920 Speaker 2: robotest an that robotesting. 1842 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,120 Speaker 1: Every time I paid a two extra dollars, I believe 1843 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: them could think of because of the cost of American wages, 1844 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,720 Speaker 1: even though they fucking suck. It's cheaper to do all 1845 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 1: that than it is to pay for the for the 1846 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,559 Speaker 1: process to be completely done here in the United States. 1847 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 3: Uh, to be fair. 1848 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,760 Speaker 2: In the fireboroughs of NYC, we have ninety nine cents store, 1849 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 2: but that ain't ship in there. 1850 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,160 Speaker 3: That is ninety nine cents. 1851 01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,679 Speaker 2: But everything used to be a dollar plus tax about 1852 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,240 Speaker 2: twenty years ago. Now we do have a handful of 1853 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 2: dollar trees, family dollars, and dollar generals throughout Brooklyn, and 1854 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:00,920 Speaker 2: everything is a jet one dollar. 1855 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,479 Speaker 3: I have bought groceries from dollar Tree, like canned. 1856 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 2: Vegetable soup, crackers, pasta, and some other broke people staples. 1857 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,679 Speaker 3: Lol, Okay, did not know that. 1858 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 2: I guess June got to get out of Harlem and 1859 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 2: start getting some of these other boroughs so she get 1860 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 2: them deals. Start Start says that Jehovah witness attacks might 1861 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 2: be a thing, might be in response aka revenge to 1862 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 2: there being a mass uncovering of child abuse going on 1863 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,560 Speaker 2: behind closed doors. Obviously, absolute power corrupts absolutely, so the 1864 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 2: hierarchy within the religion makes it very easy for badshit 1865 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,439 Speaker 2: to go down. Most people willing to burn down one 1866 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 2: of their buildings knows specifically when nobody will be inside. 1867 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 2: The point is to keep them from meeting, not to 1868 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 2: actually hurt them. Oh, I did. 1869 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 3: Not know any of this. Why they ain't burning no 1870 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 3: Catholic churches down? Then? I mean, you know what, move on, 1871 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 3: that's not going anywhere. 1872 01:25:55,320 --> 01:26:01,040 Speaker 4: Good, gotta let it burn. I got little birds? 1873 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 3: Oh man, All right, that's all calmed down. 1874 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,280 Speaker 2: Even E says, I'm not too proud to admit that 1875 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 2: the Dollar Store is my go to place for movie 1876 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,640 Speaker 2: theater snacks, party decorations, gift bags and wrap paper and 1877 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 2: odds and ends. 1878 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,599 Speaker 4: Oh yes, oh yeah, that wrap wrapping paper is the flame, now, 1879 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 4: you know. 1880 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,600 Speaker 3: And and them back gift bags. 1881 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 4: I go on, dollar trees, gift bags. 1882 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 2: I'll buy just about anything from Dollar Store except me. 1883 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't know about anywhere else, but the dollar trees 1884 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 2: in my neighborhood are really nice. 1885 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 3: That's for the jink. Listen you on. Who be in 1886 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:33,679 Speaker 3: the dollar trees? 1887 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Y'all? 1888 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 3: Wanna know who be in them dollar trees? 1889 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why it is dollar trees and general 1890 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 2: dollar You know who be in them? 1891 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 3: White women? 1892 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 4: What up? 1893 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 3: White women with some money be in there. I've seen it. 1894 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:47,639 Speaker 3: I've seen it with my own eyes. 1895 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 4: By the whole goddamn stow out. 1896 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 3: It's like when I. 1897 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 2: Saw white people are ready that damn Bojangle's chicken around 1898 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 2: the block when we moved over to the white side 1899 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 2: of town at that time, I was like, what y'all 1900 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,840 Speaker 2: my whole life been making me believe niggas is the 1901 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 2: ones loving chicken. We ain't never had the bow Jangles 1902 01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,120 Speaker 2: wrapped around the block. Now, come on, now, oh. 1903 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, the both Jenkins the white side of town, you know, 1904 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,240 Speaker 6: and you know it's on a white side of town 1905 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,160 Speaker 6: because they would even pay for the police officers the 1906 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,720 Speaker 6: direct traffic in and around the bow Jenkins. The bow 1907 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 6: Jenkins was right beside the Chick fil A, so they 1908 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,680 Speaker 6: end up directing traffic in the both of them. 1909 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 3: How dare you? 1910 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,200 Speaker 2: How fucking dare you make me feel that I'm supposed 1911 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,519 Speaker 2: to feel bad? I can chicken in public, y'allma, I 1912 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 2: ain't never been like, let me wait an hour for 1913 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 2: this chicken in my life other than that black family 1914 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 2: functions where they cook late. 1915 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 4: Other than that, that's all we show up. 1916 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,559 Speaker 2: Lady never waited for anything as for that Jankie Wiz production. 1917 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:41,519 Speaker 3: I think I can top it. 1918 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 2: I guess around the time of dream Girls the movie 1919 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 2: came out, my friends daughter was selling tickets to a 1920 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,360 Speaker 2: high school play. He drama department decided to put on 1921 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 2: a multicultural version of dream Girls. And my multiculture, I 1922 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 2: mean there were only two black people in the cast, 1923 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 2: and neither of them played the main three girls. What 1924 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 2: and the girl played Fie White who was skinny, but 1925 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,719 Speaker 2: they patted up her body with it was a hot mess. 1926 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,240 Speaker 3: Okay, but they are kids, right? 1927 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:03,360 Speaker 6: What? 1928 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:04,760 Speaker 3: What great were they in? 1929 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 4: What's happening to high school? 1930 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,479 Speaker 2: High school is late? It should be better about then. 1931 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,760 Speaker 2: And when she sang and I'm telling you how, the 1932 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:15,679 Speaker 2: audience walked out. 1933 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,080 Speaker 3: No, not on the babies. 1934 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 2: Now see, you gotta take the l for the kids, man, 1935 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 2: you gotta stay for the kids. One white guy in 1936 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,640 Speaker 2: the front of the audience stood up and yell, this 1937 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 2: is terrible. 1938 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 3: On the children. 1939 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,559 Speaker 4: And you know what they are in high school. 1940 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 1: So you know a lot of them are like, hey, oh, 1941 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,719 Speaker 1: I mean the tickets brought it free. 1942 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 4: I mean, you parents to love one. 1943 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 3: Right, You're supposed to be parents support other people kids. 1944 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 4: But they was like I didn't. 1945 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 2: Sign up for this, White fie Rent. See, this is 1946 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 2: why I can't be a parent, because I'll choke a nigga. 1947 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 2: If you blew my little girl, I'll choke the fuck 1948 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:50,920 Speaker 2: out of you on the way out, Like, can I 1949 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 2: talk to you for a second? White fie Rent off 1950 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,559 Speaker 2: the stage in tears. So the direct d had to 1951 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 2: come out and scold the audience, said, you should all 1952 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:56,799 Speaker 2: be ashamed. 1953 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 3: It was a hot ass mess. He was right by 1954 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 3: the way. I mean he he should be ashamed for 1955 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 3: putting that shit out there. 1956 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say. 1957 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,040 Speaker 1: You should have been like, you know what, baby, No, no, 1958 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 1: we gonna get your the lips sync this, Like he 1959 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,680 Speaker 1: should be ashamed because you heard it before we heard it, 1960 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,160 Speaker 1: so you know that baby couldn't. 1961 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 3: Say he should be ashamed. 1962 01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 2: But now that y'all was all there in the autist, 1963 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 2: y'all was in this together. Okay, y'all was in on 1964 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 2: this dream girls heist. Y'all just ain't like, YO, what 1965 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 2: function right? Try to switch it up? 1966 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I would hit him up later and be like, 1967 01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 3: you should be ashamed? What the fuck was you thinking? 1968 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,120 Speaker 2: Would you rather see a good production of the Wiz 1969 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,679 Speaker 2: or horrible production of the Wiz Karen a good one. 1970 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,080 Speaker 2: Fifty three percent of audience says they rather see a 1971 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,719 Speaker 2: good one. Eleven percent don't want to see either version, 1972 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 2: and I'm with the thirty seven percent horrible. 1973 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,400 Speaker 3: Thank you. I would rather see the horrible version that 1974 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,160 Speaker 3: sounded hilarious. 1975 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,439 Speaker 2: I would not have walked out, I don't like I wouldn't. 1976 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,200 Speaker 2: I would have been like, oh, this is about to 1977 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,360 Speaker 2: be There's no place like Texas. 1978 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,799 Speaker 3: What how did we get to practice? 1979 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 4: That's no place like Houston? 1980 01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,840 Speaker 3: What? Right? Oh? That has been so. 1981 01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,400 Speaker 4: Good, clean Antonio? Why are we traveling around Texas? What 1982 01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 4: is happening here? 1983 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 3: These are the only places I know? We got some comments. 1984 01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,719 Speaker 2: Kim says, honestly that production of where It sounds funny 1985 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,120 Speaker 2: as hell. I wouldn't have mind seeing just to laugh 1986 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,639 Speaker 2: my ass off, but not for thirty five or seventy 1987 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,639 Speaker 2: dollars maybe five or ten. Oh, get a good point. 1988 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,759 Speaker 2: I did not think about the money. Valid point, valid point, 1989 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,120 Speaker 2: valid very valid point. Actually that's a lot of money for. 1990 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:30,759 Speaker 3: A bad production. 1991 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 1: Right. 1992 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:32,600 Speaker 4: If I said, if I'm gonna pay full price, I 1993 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:33,240 Speaker 4: want a good one. 1994 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:34,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. 1995 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,040 Speaker 4: If I'm getting a group on. I do the bad one. 1996 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 2: But I'll say this once I'm already there. Are you 1997 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,800 Speaker 2: right and it's bad, I'm staying. I'm staying once I'm 1998 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,719 Speaker 2: already there. It's better than mediocre. I'd rather take bad. 1999 01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 2: Cet says, you see, I try to go see shows 2000 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:49,920 Speaker 2: in my city, but this shit sounds crazy. 2001 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 3: This makes me signed out. All the local shows. Don't 2002 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,000 Speaker 3: do that to the local shows. 2003 01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:55,720 Speaker 4: They read some good local shows. 2004 01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,400 Speaker 2: I need to see a few four or five ratings 2005 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,479 Speaker 2: before I go out to see your show. I feel 2006 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 2: you open the night as a risk. I'm just sad 2007 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,479 Speaker 2: for the people that lost that hard ear money. Try 2008 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 2: and see a fun musical. Tim says, if I'm paying, 2009 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 2: I'd rather see a good production. But I think I 2010 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,559 Speaker 2: get more enjoyment out of seeing a video of a 2011 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 2: bad production. Yeah, oh man, I'm suck inflicted on this. 2012 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 2: The troll part of me is like, let's just see 2013 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:23,720 Speaker 2: the bad version. You know, all right, we got some voicemails. 2014 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,800 Speaker 2: I will play them. 2015 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:27,880 Speaker 3: This is our first one. 2016 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 2: The voicemail number is seven oh four five five seven 2017 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,559 Speaker 2: zero one eight six seven O four five five seven 2018 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,080 Speaker 2: zero one eight six and you can leave you two 2019 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 2: minutes or less voicemail Karen and. 2020 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:43,280 Speaker 7: Rod, This is Falcon Steva, just calling. Hope I get 2021 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,719 Speaker 7: this in in time for the tee back show. Anyways, 2022 01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 7: for a while since I've just ritten in and told 2023 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,840 Speaker 7: you guys how much I love and appreciate you, and 2024 01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 7: I wanted to call and we got the happy holidays. 2025 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 7: Let you pray for you guys, because I know that 2026 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 7: you got couldn't work. I really appreciate it. So I 2027 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 7: just want to drop for a quick the line and 2028 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 7: say love you people doing what you're doing. I appreciate 2029 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,879 Speaker 7: you guys behind us always. 2030 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,840 Speaker 5: Oh and I got a new job, so my commute. 2031 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,679 Speaker 7: Will go from fifty seven miles one way to five 2032 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,000 Speaker 7: miles one way. I don't know when I'm gonna listen 2033 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,160 Speaker 7: to you guys that you are the guys in the car. 2034 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:29,240 Speaker 7: So anyway, love you, appreciate you. Happy holidays, and I 2035 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:34,479 Speaker 7: can't wait to hear some more GGGWT in twenty nineteen. 2036 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:39,759 Speaker 4: Bye, thank you, thank you. Shout out to the short commute. 2037 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't listening. I don't care if it means 2038 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 2: you got to hear us less. There's nothing better than 2039 01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,080 Speaker 2: that short commute man. 2040 01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 4: I Oh, I love it. 2041 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,160 Speaker 2: On the highway, less time, less dangerous. Good for you, 2042 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,600 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you'll hopefully you'll find a way to 2043 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,320 Speaker 2: fit us in somewhere appreciate. 2044 01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,000 Speaker 4: It is on miles down like no joke. 2045 01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's see we get to the next 2046 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:07,400 Speaker 2: voicemail and that might I think that's it for this week. 2047 01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,839 Speaker 3: Oh no, No, it's one more ro and Karen. 2048 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 5: I think I would be anonymous. The story I want 2049 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 5: to say, but this que story bout this man getting beat. 2050 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:28,599 Speaker 5: That shit is crazy because one y'all say he's so fou, 2051 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:36,400 Speaker 5: but uh, that that shit really triggered me, because yeah, 2052 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:37,439 Speaker 5: I got my ass beat. 2053 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 3: No, but I was like. 2054 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,280 Speaker 5: Eighteen and I still don't know. I still don't know why. 2055 01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,840 Speaker 5: And now that I'm, you know, thirty three, fifteen years later, 2056 01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,640 Speaker 5: I don't even feel as connected to the org like 2057 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:56,720 Speaker 5: that anymore, Not so much like nationally, but more so 2058 01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,439 Speaker 5: like the idea of being in a fraternity kind of 2059 01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,720 Speaker 5: turns me off now because I find myself like that 2060 01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 5: should get real locker room these real fast when I'm 2061 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,640 Speaker 5: around them, and I'm not even like that, you know. 2062 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 5: It's like I'm eighteen all over again. When I'm around them. 2063 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:19,679 Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean all my experiences have been bad 2064 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,720 Speaker 5: with my fraternity or with fraternities other Greeks. There's a 2065 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,639 Speaker 5: lot of you know, the ship they tell you, they 2066 01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,640 Speaker 5: tell you when you join, you know a lot of 2067 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 5: business opportunities and stuff like that, job references that network. 2068 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 3: It's good, But. 2069 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't really find myself being that interested. 2070 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 5: And when I was going through the hazing, I was like, oh, 2071 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,040 Speaker 5: you know, if it made sense because I was eighteen 2072 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,519 Speaker 5: and stupid. But now, if you ever try to tell 2073 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,080 Speaker 5: somebody about what you went through, the ship really does 2074 01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:56,599 Speaker 5: sound like joining a cold run outside. One last thing, 2075 01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 5: I would move to that town in Cleveland because I got. 2076 01:34:59,760 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 8: Hell of. 2077 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2078 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 2: Man, I think it's weird because first of all, I 2079 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,439 Speaker 2: was sorry that happened to you, obviously, I think I 2080 01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 2: think it's really weird the fraternity shit, because somehow that's 2081 01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:18,719 Speaker 2: not like considered abuse or abusive to a lot of people. 2082 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,280 Speaker 2: Once again, like things that I knew at eighteen, where 2083 01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,080 Speaker 2: I was like, no, that seems wrong to hit somebody 2084 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,559 Speaker 2: who wants to be in your organization. And it was 2085 01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:32,640 Speaker 2: something that pretty much every organization on my campus was 2086 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,880 Speaker 2: secretly going to do like it was just part of 2087 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,200 Speaker 2: the pledging process. There was no you go paper. It 2088 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,960 Speaker 2: was you become brothers, but us making you a psyche 2089 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 2: Greek alphabets and hitting you and doing all this type 2090 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,559 Speaker 2: of shit. And so I never it was never on 2091 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,240 Speaker 2: the table for me. But I just don't think I 2092 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,200 Speaker 2: had that type of mentality, but I was. There were 2093 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,639 Speaker 2: not everybody was not like me. I was the weird though. 2094 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,559 Speaker 2: So once again another situation where I'm like, that sounds abusive. 2095 01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 2: They could drive your car around, you can't walk on grads, 2096 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,920 Speaker 2: You like, what, Like, why would they be able to 2097 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,800 Speaker 2: do any of this to you? You're gonna pay them 2098 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:11,400 Speaker 2: to let them do that. But those fraternities and sororities 2099 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,599 Speaker 2: are around, and they exist, and they're very popular, and 2100 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,760 Speaker 2: people have what they would consider to be great experiences 2101 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,800 Speaker 2: in them. And so I don't know how I turn 2102 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 2: around and tell them, like, no, y'all were just beating 2103 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,280 Speaker 2: and shit and that was fucked up And you shouldn't 2104 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:24,760 Speaker 2: have to do that to be anybody's brother or. 2105 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,360 Speaker 4: Sister, because different people experiences are different. 2106 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,360 Speaker 1: Because you would talk to some people and they might 2107 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,000 Speaker 1: not have had to deal with any of that, so 2108 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 1: I guess. 2109 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:32,280 Speaker 4: It just varies. 2110 01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,840 Speaker 2: Well, it's some level of a for a lot of 2111 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,400 Speaker 2: it's some level of abuse. It might not always be physical, 2112 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,800 Speaker 2: but it's something. It's something, you know. But anyway, all 2113 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,800 Speaker 2: that stuff aside, Man, I'm just sorry that happened to you. 2114 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,040 Speaker 2: And yeah, a decision you made at eighteen nineteen might 2115 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,679 Speaker 2: not be one that at thirty five is gonna necessarily 2116 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,720 Speaker 2: be that fruitful. And I think at that age when 2117 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,680 Speaker 2: they were selling that to me, I think it's just 2118 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,040 Speaker 2: more I'm headstrong and stubborn in some ways. And so 2119 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,000 Speaker 2: when they sold me the like you'll need these connections 2120 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 2: and ship, I was like, I don't think I will, 2121 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:05,880 Speaker 2: you know. I'm like, I'll get my connections through internship 2122 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 2: programs and academically get the youth programs and ship. I'm 2123 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 2: not doing the uh, I'm not gonna do the fraternity thing, 2124 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,479 Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, like I said, I don't want to. 2125 01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,439 Speaker 2: There is another one of those topics. I don't feel 2126 01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,840 Speaker 2: like alien a now the audience that uh pledge and ship, 2127 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,040 Speaker 2: and I don't feel like fighting anybody over it. 2128 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,360 Speaker 3: It just is what it is. 2129 01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,720 Speaker 2: It's not something for me, all right. I think we 2130 01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,559 Speaker 2: have one more voicemail. Actually, let's see where were we at? 2131 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:34,400 Speaker 3: That was here? 2132 01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,920 Speaker 2: So then Wednesday is here and that should be the 2133 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,080 Speaker 2: last one for the week. Uh, okay, why isn't it 2134 01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:46,800 Speaker 2: not going here? Goddamn it, Skype, you were doing so 2135 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 2: great you okay, did it work? 2136 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:58,640 Speaker 3: No? All right? What about now? Oh? Why did it 2137 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,880 Speaker 3: even work? On the Now? Skype is wrong? It's calling somebody. 2138 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 3: I didn't tell her. What was he doing? Like? What 2139 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,799 Speaker 3: come on Skype together? All right, let's see. 2140 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 2: If it works now, okay, hung up? 2141 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:23,200 Speaker 3: Thank you? Okay, now it should work all right, And 2142 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,679 Speaker 3: of course you gotta give it a second because you'll 2143 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 3: have to kill the Skype. 2144 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 8: Running. Karen, just to be mine, sorry about my voice, 2145 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:37,559 Speaker 8: and I'm just a little sick. But I never laughed 2146 01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:41,639 Speaker 8: so hard as when Karen didn't laugh at your Freddie 2147 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 8: Mercury joke. It was just like he said, a fresh line. 2148 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,599 Speaker 5: It was just cricket, he sighed. 2149 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:56,840 Speaker 8: I was like, oh, man, I love you. I'm down 2150 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 8: it because it's so honest. 2151 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 5: You're like, okay, Oh, I also love it. 2152 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,400 Speaker 8: When there's a like when y'all read a story and 2153 01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,840 Speaker 8: there's like a long pause and it happens to me 2154 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,920 Speaker 8: almost every time. Sometimes, like if I'm looking at my 2155 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,600 Speaker 8: phone when it happens, I know what's happening. But a 2156 01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,439 Speaker 8: lot of times, if I'm in my car listening and 2157 01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,920 Speaker 8: you guys do a long pouse because it was just 2158 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:28,280 Speaker 8: a foolishness that you knew was gonna happen, and you 2159 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 8: just have this really long silence, I was like, oh no, 2160 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,840 Speaker 8: what happened to my phone? The podcast turn off? I'm 2161 01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:38,400 Speaker 8: just accolutely press something and I'm looking and then you 2162 01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,400 Speaker 8: guys have a heavy sigh. 2163 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:53,000 Speaker 9: You're like, I'm gonna go all right by hope you 2164 01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,280 Speaker 9: feel better, baby, Yeah, thank you for calling them on, 2165 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:56,679 Speaker 9: and I do help you feel better. 2166 01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,639 Speaker 2: And uh yeah, not all the joke. So I knew 2167 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 2: when I said that joke it wasn't funny. I just 2168 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,360 Speaker 2: had to get it out, y'all. Y'all ever have that, 2169 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,400 Speaker 2: you just had to get it out. You're like, this 2170 01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,000 Speaker 2: is a terrible, terrible joke. But if I don't tell 2171 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,360 Speaker 2: the world how terrible this terrible joke, I'll never be 2172 01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:13,360 Speaker 2: able to live with myself. 2173 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,240 Speaker 4: And see, now it's the same. That's how you feel 2174 01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:16,600 Speaker 4: about my terrible puns. 2175 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:17,200 Speaker 3: That's true. 2176 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:22,880 Speaker 2: That's why we're together. And just like me, didn't laugh. No, 2177 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 2: actually I do laugh at your terrible puns. It is 2178 01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:26,400 Speaker 2: probably a problem. 2179 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 4: Y'all. Do it too, y'all be encouraged about terrible puns. 2180 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 3: I got some emails, a lot of them. Actually, let's 2181 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 3: get to them. Okay. 2182 01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:39,360 Speaker 2: Someone Jane sent me a gift for my candle. Their 2183 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:43,559 Speaker 2: eyes were watching God, a novel by Zora Neil Hurston. 2184 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 2: I added on my list. That's why it lets me 2185 01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,599 Speaker 2: add Kindle books on my list now for time right, 2186 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 2: it used to wouldn't let me do it, but now 2187 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,400 Speaker 2: on Amazon, it lets me add them to my Kindle 2188 01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,000 Speaker 2: wish list. So if people go to our wish list 2189 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,120 Speaker 2: and want to get us something, there's books on there too. 2190 01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:03,280 Speaker 3: Now, Uhane, Jane? All right's see Allegro. 2191 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:07,559 Speaker 2: Then feedback on eighteen o nine feedback show, Hello you too. 2192 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 4: Well. 2193 01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,280 Speaker 2: Listening to your feedback show eighteen o nine, I realized 2194 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 2: another aspect of my dukes. 2195 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 3: It has a childhood. I mentioned that as a. 2196 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,920 Speaker 2: Child I was bitter about not getting dukes as a paraphernalia. 2197 01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,120 Speaker 2: But I just realized while listened to my aunt, a 2198 01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:22,479 Speaker 2: blond hair, blue eyed native Missouri, Missouri woman clearly did 2199 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 2: not have an adverse reaction to the Confederate flag. Giving 2200 01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:27,680 Speaker 2: her background, it's allege that her father may have been 2201 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:28,439 Speaker 2: a high rank. 2202 01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:32,000 Speaker 3: And clan member. Little girl, thank you, I'm glad you hear. 2203 01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:33,559 Speaker 3: I'm glad you made it through that come out. 2204 01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,000 Speaker 2: Though she was mostly a strange from her family for 2205 01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,919 Speaker 2: marrying a black man and having biracial babies, her upbringing 2206 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:44,960 Speaker 2: probably highly likely included appreciation for that whitewash history. True, 2207 01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,640 Speaker 2: like you can be woke but still not know and 2208 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,240 Speaker 2: still don't understand because you're still white. 2209 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:51,240 Speaker 3: Anyway. 2210 01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,560 Speaker 2: I had learned as I got older that white that 2211 01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,640 Speaker 2: flag is truly terrible, But it's only now that I'm 2212 01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,720 Speaker 2: realizing how the affected our family in my childhood. 2213 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,679 Speaker 3: Crazy, how our country prize itself on keeping people ignorant. 2214 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,839 Speaker 3: Love you, guys, legate, Yep, yes, thank you, baby, But yes. 2215 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,360 Speaker 2: Nobody likes to hear that point when people make it. 2216 01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,639 Speaker 2: But I'll make it anyway because I don't give a fuck. 2217 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,880 Speaker 2: White people are victim of racism too because of stupid 2218 01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 2: shit like that, like in trying to make it about us, 2219 01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,480 Speaker 2: they've also successfully wounded themselves. 2220 01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,200 Speaker 3: It's so stupid. It's just so stupid because then knows. 2221 01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:28,519 Speaker 3: We did get a five star review from Great Britain. 2222 01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,879 Speaker 3: Yay uh this is from last. 2223 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:36,439 Speaker 2: Week we out your Heart emogic five stars as by 2224 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 2: it looks like betto and then a bunch of numbers. 2225 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,360 Speaker 2: It says Karen and Rod, I love your work the 2226 01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,600 Speaker 2: way you both think your humor with a U in it. 2227 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,320 Speaker 3: Hey, thank you, Pip. 2228 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:55,080 Speaker 2: That's as far as good day, good day, I say, 2229 01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,640 Speaker 2: and dedication to your podcast. The black Out Tests was 2230 01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,000 Speaker 2: a tremendous addition to my life life in twenty sixteen, 2231 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,920 Speaker 2: and like everywhere else has said, you feel like family. 2232 01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:06,840 Speaker 2: But I hope I never get too familiar for helping 2233 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,679 Speaker 2: me with my Southern accent to help him. 2234 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,280 Speaker 3: Take Oh it's all it got cut off. How do 2235 01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 3: I see the whole review? 2236 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how to see the whole review? Oh wait, 2237 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,240 Speaker 2: I had to go to iTunes and put it in 2238 01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:20,599 Speaker 2: Great Britain. Wanner, I think I would have to do that. Okay, 2239 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:25,160 Speaker 2: did you go and see uh yeah, sure, but I 2240 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,040 Speaker 2: had to do it in the background. Give me a second, 2241 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,840 Speaker 2: everybody to get to that because I don't know another 2242 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:31,639 Speaker 2: way to see it. 2243 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,920 Speaker 3: This is link I can click. Let me see if 2244 01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:35,600 Speaker 3: this takes me to it. 2245 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,519 Speaker 4: Let me see a bunch of flags. 2246 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,360 Speaker 3: Oh okay, you know what, Now this link will take 2247 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:39,720 Speaker 3: me to it. 2248 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,920 Speaker 2: There we go, all right, Okay, to help me with 2249 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,960 Speaker 2: my southern accent, to help me take my mind off 2250 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,519 Speaker 2: of my illness. I was in the hospital for two 2251 01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:48,960 Speaker 2: months and back again for three weeks for sharing your 2252 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 2: blackness and helping me feel like a black a black 2253 01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,720 Speaker 2: CRUs Yes, I use the N word now, and this 2254 01:43:54,840 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 2: your all your fault. It's honestly, it's this is my superpower. 2255 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:01,879 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 2256 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,800 Speaker 2: It's honestly the one thing that's it really is my superpower. 2257 01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,040 Speaker 2: Be careful I use it though, Okay, got it. I 2258 01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:09,439 Speaker 2: know you you're new to it, so. 2259 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,439 Speaker 4: You gotta great power comes possible. 2260 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta like kind of parts it out, you know, 2261 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:14,760 Speaker 2: and make sure you're using it right. 2262 01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:16,320 Speaker 4: Know when you said and know when the whisper it 2263 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:17,920 Speaker 4: be like look around, like. 2264 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,840 Speaker 3: Listen to lots of rap Dave Chappelle. They'll get your 2265 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,080 Speaker 3: niggas right. Uh. And if you want to go high level, 2266 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:29,840 Speaker 3: maybe even go to What's My man? Why I can't 2267 01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,920 Speaker 3: think Paul Mooney? Maybe even go pal money with it. 2268 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,720 Speaker 2: I love your band to your chemistry, your guess, your 2269 01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,360 Speaker 2: closed mouth, laugh of rise and Karen's blasted. 2270 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,000 Speaker 3: Jory, thank you endlessly love, love and more love. How 2271 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,080 Speaker 3: about Bet? Oh, thank you? How about bet? 2272 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:42,679 Speaker 4: Thank you? 2273 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:43,960 Speaker 3: There we go? 2274 01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:47,320 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next email. See what 2275 01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:54,479 Speaker 2: else we got here? How about I don't know if 2276 01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:55,799 Speaker 2: it's pronounced Tanya or Tonia? 2277 01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,000 Speaker 3: Hey, toy here? Oh, there we go? Toy uh. 2278 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,080 Speaker 2: In June twenty seventeen, I had to leave my husband 2279 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,679 Speaker 2: after and during emotional, mental, financial, and physical abuse. Eventually 2280 01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 2: I had to get a restrain in order to keep 2281 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,120 Speaker 2: it short. I had to fight for my life. I 2282 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,880 Speaker 2: lost a lot. I still miss my old life in Charlotte. 2283 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,200 Speaker 2: I understand that going back put me in danger of 2284 01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:15,479 Speaker 2: my ex husband finding me. 2285 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:16,639 Speaker 3: When I saw. 2286 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,479 Speaker 2: Everything happened with Cardy, I felt for her. I married 2287 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 2: my husband at twenty three. I had to leave it 2288 01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,080 Speaker 2: twenty five. We're around the same age. She will have 2289 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,479 Speaker 2: to make a hard decision regarding her marriage. 2290 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:26,200 Speaker 3: If she does. 2291 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:30,240 Speaker 2: Decide to leave off cheat, it will probably be it 2292 01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:32,000 Speaker 2: will probably be one of the hardest things she's ever 2293 01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 2: had to do. She will take a loss financially because 2294 01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,040 Speaker 2: her career popped off during the marriage. 2295 01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:37,400 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 2296 01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,720 Speaker 2: Every person who gets divorced has to take some sort 2297 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 2: of loss. 2298 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 3: That's deep. That's true. 2299 01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,519 Speaker 2: When I left my ex husband, all I had was 2300 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:49,280 Speaker 2: my son. Not here is thank God, my right, my 2301 01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 2: car and my clothes. I slept in my car some nights. However, 2302 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,120 Speaker 2: my son and I now have a beautiful life. 2303 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,559 Speaker 3: And I don't even know what I should be saying. 2304 01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,759 Speaker 4: Where you live now saying yeah, skip the city. 2305 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,600 Speaker 2: Lem'a skipped that far because I don't feel comfort. We 2306 01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,719 Speaker 2: are still recovering. My son and I had to both 2307 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,479 Speaker 2: go to therapy. Sorry for the long email. 2308 01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,519 Speaker 3: It's not too long. It's fun. All I say is all. 2309 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:10,120 Speaker 3: I said. 2310 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,080 Speaker 2: All this to say that if Cardi choose to move on, 2311 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 2: she will take some losses, but she is still young 2312 01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:16,840 Speaker 2: and she has so much time to get it right 2313 01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:21,280 Speaker 2: the next time. Yeah, and if especially if that's the 2314 01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,080 Speaker 2: stuff that's happening with him, Like I said, I don't know. 2315 01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:28,080 Speaker 3: What's happening with them. I don't know. That's all I got. 2316 01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,479 Speaker 2: And I understand why if you have their history, that's 2317 01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 2: the first place you're gonna go. Like, nah, you know 2318 01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,400 Speaker 2: what I mean. So, and I think people had to 2319 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,720 Speaker 2: do so much to survive. And I really hate that 2320 01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,160 Speaker 2: people felt like my police analogy was so fucked up 2321 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,400 Speaker 2: because I'm like, that's to me, that's kind of a 2322 01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:49,120 Speaker 2: working analogy that works because it doesn't fucking matter to 2323 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,639 Speaker 2: me what the intent is. 2324 01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 3: At a certain extent. 2325 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,040 Speaker 2: There's just a certain imagery I see and I'm like, nah, 2326 01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,920 Speaker 2: something bad is gonna happen. Fight or flight kicks in. 2327 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,840 Speaker 2: I won't out. Everyone should be out. When I see 2328 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 2: people get other people get pulled over by the police. 2329 01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:04,760 Speaker 4: What I'm gonna tell you. 2330 01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,120 Speaker 1: If I'm riding, I'll just stuff I ride, I see 2331 01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,840 Speaker 1: other people pull over, I stop panicking, and I'll start 2332 01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:11,599 Speaker 1: thinking about them. I'd be like, I hope that nothing 2333 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 1: happened in it. It's like I automatically just go into it. 2334 01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,519 Speaker 1: I hope doesn't happen to them. I hope they save 2335 01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,800 Speaker 1: I hope the police officer's minded right, like almost immediately 2336 01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:21,400 Speaker 1: when I see them, because I was like, I do 2337 01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:22,719 Speaker 1: not want this to in bad. 2338 01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to pass this. And then I'm watching 2339 01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:25,720 Speaker 4: the news. 2340 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,240 Speaker 1: And to be like, so on, so got shot, you know, 2341 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,080 Speaker 1: just from a random from a routine check. 2342 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I hope anyway, not gonna re explain myself. 2343 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:39,240 Speaker 2: But come on, Ernest Wright said, steam pastors riding car 2344 01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,560 Speaker 2: given honor to God, the deacons, and my brothers and 2345 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:45,439 Speaker 2: sisters anti anti blackness. I come before the congregation the 2346 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 2: day and need a prayer for I am a black. 2347 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:53,120 Speaker 2: I a black, am fucked with. As evidence of said fuckery, 2348 01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,559 Speaker 2: please see the linked images which our skins are the 2349 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,320 Speaker 2: front and back of an unwanted handbill found on my 2350 01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:05,120 Speaker 2: windshield after a heart day's work. Uh it's after perusing 2351 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,720 Speaker 2: this foolishness, I found the following e book on Amazon, 2352 01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,040 Speaker 2: as promised by. 2353 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:14,040 Speaker 3: This migger M I G G E R missive. Okay, 2354 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:14,599 Speaker 3: let me. 2355 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,679 Speaker 2: Share my screen because people are gonna have to see 2356 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:17,640 Speaker 2: this in order to get it. 2357 01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I see, we don't have much time left in 2358 01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 3: this session. 2359 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'm ana pause right here, all right, So 2360 01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 2: let me share my screen so y'all can see what 2361 01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:32,599 Speaker 2: is going on over here that triggered this man at. 2362 01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,120 Speaker 3: The after he got out of out of work. 2363 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,800 Speaker 2: Uh so it says the first one says bigger M 2364 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,800 Speaker 2: my G G E R dot Org is the caption 2365 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,479 Speaker 2: for the not capturing the description for the picture you 2366 01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:49,000 Speaker 2: put up? 2367 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,040 Speaker 3: Why does this picture want a load? What's going on? 2368 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:54,479 Speaker 3: All right? 2369 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:59,000 Speaker 2: Gmail clicked on it and now it's taking the sweet 2370 01:48:59,040 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 2: ass time. 2371 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:00,320 Speaker 1: Right. 2372 01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's just a picture. It's not even like a 2373 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,280 Speaker 2: movie or something. All right, So that's the second picture. 2374 01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:07,559 Speaker 2: Let's go back to the first. 2375 01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:12,240 Speaker 3: All right, Well i'll go is it showing? 2376 01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 2: I'll go back to the second one. Megger by author 2377 01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:19,840 Speaker 2: Ray Adam Bosolda. My name is Ray Adam Bosolda. I 2378 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,559 Speaker 2: am writing this notice to inform you I have filed 2379 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,680 Speaker 2: with the United States Patting and Trademark Office USPTO a 2380 01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:30,360 Speaker 2: trademark Megger. This trademark is of no relation to the 2381 01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,759 Speaker 2: N word. It has been legally defined a creative idea 2382 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,879 Speaker 2: to stems from theory, developed into a simplest format, resulting 2383 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,439 Speaker 2: in a power of discovery beyond the imagination that could 2384 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,400 Speaker 2: that became fact. I have this e book currently for 2385 01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:44,479 Speaker 2: sale on Amazon, disclosing the purpose of Bigger. 2386 01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:47,439 Speaker 3: I'm informing you of the path I. 2387 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,760 Speaker 2: Have chosen to take, so that you may take any 2388 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,799 Speaker 2: steps to find necessary on your end to keep the peace. 2389 01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,400 Speaker 2: In my opinion, this may raise a legal criminal defense 2390 01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,120 Speaker 2: issue due to the misrepresentation of the N word in 2391 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,280 Speaker 2: the near future. I think it is imperative to bring 2392 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,519 Speaker 2: this to your attention so that no public official, private 2393 01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,599 Speaker 2: citizen is unnecessarily put in their life of career at 2394 01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:11,200 Speaker 2: rizdo to being uninformed. Thanks ray Adam Bosoda. 2395 01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:12,160 Speaker 3: What does this mean? 2396 01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:12,759 Speaker 6: Dog? 2397 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,519 Speaker 2: And the front is him with no shoes on, in 2398 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:22,920 Speaker 2: a suit, standing on top of a fountain and it 2399 01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:28,600 Speaker 2: says bigger, Bigger by ray Adam Bosodia. 2400 01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:33,320 Speaker 3: I'm so confused. What and the book is actually on 2401 01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 3: Amazon apparently four ninety nine for Kendle. Now see this. 2402 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,760 Speaker 3: Biggers out of this goddamn mind. 2403 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:42,880 Speaker 4: I wish these niggers would get it together. 2404 01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:47,120 Speaker 2: Come on, man, ninety nine cents is the right price 2405 01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:48,120 Speaker 2: for bigger literature. 2406 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,439 Speaker 1: There's no way in the world you got these biggers 2407 01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,400 Speaker 1: mixing up with these other biggers making these nigger kids. 2408 01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,200 Speaker 2: It's called he has a description. It had been brewing 2409 01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,719 Speaker 2: for years. Many in the working class community. Working class 2410 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:06,880 Speaker 2: community knew something was wrong, but Jake, they just couldn't 2411 01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:08,479 Speaker 2: quite put their finger on what it was. 2412 01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:09,320 Speaker 3: Something had to give. 2413 01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:11,280 Speaker 2: There was no way the working class community was going 2414 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,000 Speaker 2: to stand for this very much longer. 2415 01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:18,160 Speaker 3: Some were even predicting a revolution. Meger. 2416 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,040 Speaker 2: There was a division among the people that everyone agreed existed, 2417 01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:27,960 Speaker 2: those with money and those without. Twenty eighteen, twenty percent 2418 01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:32,600 Speaker 2: of American's own ninety percent of the wealth, and the 2419 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,680 Speaker 2: other eighty percent of Americans had little or nothing to 2420 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:35,120 Speaker 2: word that. 2421 01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,680 Speaker 3: Everyone was putting the blame on the education system. It had. 2422 01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:41,639 Speaker 2: The education system was broken. It was the same old 2423 01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,200 Speaker 2: story again and again. Policy makers for Leithopes had gotten 2424 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,160 Speaker 2: together to reform the public educational system that failed. There 2425 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,840 Speaker 2: was a missing link between this twenty percent and eighty percent, 2426 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,400 Speaker 2: and no one could figure out what it was. 2427 01:51:51,800 --> 01:52:00,280 Speaker 3: And then came bigger ah ah. 2428 01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:05,960 Speaker 2: I gotta say no reviews, zero customer reviews, zeroms. 2429 01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:05,880 Speaker 3: No comments. 2430 01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:11,040 Speaker 2: Uh, you know what I gotta say this mega please 2431 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:16,760 Speaker 2: mm hmm. I don't think so, all right, let's go 2432 01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,640 Speaker 2: what wow. I would have been sucked with too. I 2433 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:21,320 Speaker 2: don't blame you. 2434 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:22,479 Speaker 4: Uh. 2435 01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,639 Speaker 3: Detroit retired sim says, why what do you. 2436 01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,919 Speaker 1: I mean if you see somebody that has its economic anxiety, 2437 01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:30,719 Speaker 1: do you like my megger? 2438 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,280 Speaker 3: What's going on? My mega? I think it's my mega, 2439 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:34,160 Speaker 3: my mega. 2440 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,600 Speaker 1: But only they could say that that no disrespect? 2441 01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,120 Speaker 3: Why Congress. 2442 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,920 Speaker 2: Why is Congress trying to pass obviously unconstitutional bill that 2443 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:49,080 Speaker 2: were criminalized boycotts of Israel from tech Dirt Detroit. 2444 01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:53,639 Speaker 3: Or tire sim synth us this Uh. As we've noted in. 2445 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,680 Speaker 2: The past on articles discussing this topic, I recognize that 2446 01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,000 Speaker 2: people have very very strong views on both Israel and 2447 01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,960 Speaker 2: the whole BDS movement. 2448 01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,919 Speaker 3: What is the BDS movement? I don't know what that means. 2449 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,280 Speaker 2: And trust me, you're not gonna convince anyone about the 2450 01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,200 Speaker 2: rightness or wrongness of those views in our comments. However, 2451 01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,559 Speaker 2: even if you support it. Oh, just from the article 2452 01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:11,799 Speaker 2: they left this he's. 2453 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,560 Speaker 4: Coming, yeah eject. 2454 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:15,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2455 01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:17,679 Speaker 4: I know nothing about that. 2456 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:22,519 Speaker 2: My understanding is free Palestine and that they dealing with 2457 01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,080 Speaker 2: some of the same shiit niggas over here deal with. 2458 01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,240 Speaker 2: And that's all I got for you. I don't know 2459 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:27,840 Speaker 2: enough about the rest of that. 2460 01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:38,720 Speaker 1: I know, and I don't know. Oh, somebody says boycott, divestments, 2461 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:40,360 Speaker 1: and sanctions. 2462 01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,559 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so y'all didn't even know that. 2463 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,400 Speaker 2: Todd Wright saying I think I found my new white 2464 01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:48,519 Speaker 2: People news anthem. 2465 01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,760 Speaker 3: My god, uh, what is this? Ship? 2466 01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:58,280 Speaker 2: Mark Ribelett for featuring Peanut butter Jones the Butthole. 2467 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:01,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 2468 01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,599 Speaker 2: But so here's the thing, Todd, I checked it out 2469 01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 2: that I did listen to this. It's not based on 2470 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:09,400 Speaker 2: a black song. You gotta steal a black song and 2471 01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:11,439 Speaker 2: make it white. So this don't count for white people 2472 01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:12,080 Speaker 2: news at all. 2473 01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:16,479 Speaker 1: Be it gotta be a black song? Does somebody white sings? 2474 01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm sure it's funny, but this is not counting, 2475 01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,519 Speaker 2: So I'm not not counting that for white people news. 2476 01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,479 Speaker 2: Thank you for an amazing twenty eighteen. I hope I 2477 01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,559 Speaker 2: pronounced this right. Zenzi Okay? 2478 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,400 Speaker 3: Cool? Dear Rod and Karen. 2479 01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,240 Speaker 2: I've been wanting to write you guys for a while now, 2480 01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 2: but I never was sure what to say, and I 2481 01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,160 Speaker 2: always put it off. I started listening to you guys 2482 01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:41,160 Speaker 2: a few months ago, and already I can tell I 2483 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,200 Speaker 2: can't wait to process a lot of the news I. 2484 01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:46,680 Speaker 3: See in here through your unique and entertaining perspective. 2485 01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:49,800 Speaker 2: For some contexts, I'm in Nigeria, and to be honest, 2486 01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,080 Speaker 2: your podcast really helped shed some of the established biases 2487 01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,280 Speaker 2: I didn't even know I held against Americans in general 2488 01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,840 Speaker 2: and black people in the US, but in particular, you 2489 01:54:57,920 --> 01:54:59,280 Speaker 2: guys have really. 2490 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:03,200 Speaker 3: Open my mind, my eyes, sorry some of them stuck 2491 01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 3: in my throat. 2492 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,040 Speaker 2: You guys have really opened my eyes to the things 2493 01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,320 Speaker 2: that y'all find that black people face every day just 2494 01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:11,240 Speaker 2: existing in the US. Why I love the last that 2495 01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,080 Speaker 2: come with the way you present your segments, especially fucking 2496 01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:16,080 Speaker 2: with black people. I always stop and acknowledge my own 2497 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,080 Speaker 2: level of privilege, never having gone through the fear of 2498 01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,520 Speaker 2: what it means to be a black person in that environment. 2499 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:25,440 Speaker 3: Oh no doubt, Thank you. Glad to be spreading the 2500 01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:26,280 Speaker 3: experience somewhere. 2501 01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:29,840 Speaker 2: One thing that's personally affected me is how passionate you 2502 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,720 Speaker 2: both have been about the twenty sixteen election and the 2503 01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,440 Speaker 2: apathy and complacency that enabled this administration here in Nigeria. 2504 01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,320 Speaker 2: I will admit that I was very disinterested in our 2505 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,640 Speaker 2: last election in twenty fourteen because the. 2506 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,840 Speaker 3: One thing we have become used to, apart from the lack. 2507 01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,600 Speaker 2: Of infrastructure and rampant corruption, it's hardy election rigging that 2508 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,240 Speaker 2: always leads to the same people staying in power, just 2509 01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:51,560 Speaker 2: at different combinations. 2510 01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,160 Speaker 3: Yo. You know what's wild though, right, So. 2511 01:55:54,240 --> 01:56:01,040 Speaker 2: Like we in America actually take for granted how clean 2512 01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,960 Speaker 2: our election system actually does run, right, and you still 2513 01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:07,760 Speaker 2: have people that they don't understand we actually have it 2514 01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,880 Speaker 2: good compared to some places where where you cast a 2515 01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,200 Speaker 2: vote and you actually do feel like there's a a 2516 01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,880 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent chance it will be counting, and when 2517 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,400 Speaker 2: it's and when something is fucked up, like you typically 2518 01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 2: see those stories and they stay in the story for 2519 01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:25,240 Speaker 2: in the news for weeks, and people are seeing each 2520 01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,680 Speaker 2: other people like we take a lot of shit for granted, 2521 01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:30,480 Speaker 2: there's places where it's like, why even vote? 2522 01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,920 Speaker 3: They just gonna say it was the same people it 2523 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:33,600 Speaker 3: always is. 2524 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,640 Speaker 2: I always believe that my vote didn't matter and that 2525 01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:38,760 Speaker 2: they would always get what they wanted in the end. However, 2526 01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:40,360 Speaker 2: hearing you guys talk about how much this kind of 2527 01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,280 Speaker 2: attitude hurt, it led to the situation where all now 2528 01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:45,760 Speaker 2: have to live with. I have started to reevaluate my 2529 01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:49,400 Speaker 2: position on voting, even in our own ridiculous, fucked up system. 2530 01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,200 Speaker 2: I've made up my mind to take a more active 2531 01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,840 Speaker 2: role in upcoming elections next year, even if I don't 2532 01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,880 Speaker 2: really believe they'll be changed, because I now know that 2533 01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,000 Speaker 2: it's better to fight and lose and it just roll 2534 01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,000 Speaker 2: over and let them win out any effort. Thank you 2535 01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:04,200 Speaker 2: for having me see the error always, yo, that's that's beautiful. 2536 01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,520 Speaker 4: Yes, And the thing is. 2537 01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,320 Speaker 1: Guarantee you you're not the only person that feels that way. 2538 01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:14,680 Speaker 1: But if enough people feel that way, it will. 2539 01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:15,560 Speaker 4: It will cause the change. 2540 01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,800 Speaker 2: And in all fairness, I don't know enough about Nigeria 2541 01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,920 Speaker 2: to say like anything definitive, but I just like the fight, 2542 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:26,320 Speaker 2: you know, within you because change I put like that 2543 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,160 Speaker 2: because it's not like it has to be limited to 2544 01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:31,080 Speaker 2: just voting or whatever, but it's just it's it's like 2545 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 2: people want to do a three sixty wind mill, but 2546 01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,640 Speaker 2: they don't want to like make a bounce pass, you know, 2547 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,760 Speaker 2: the junk with with the with of course the voting 2548 01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,760 Speaker 2: being the bounce pass. It's like one of the simplest 2549 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,880 Speaker 2: rights that we have that can be done without a 2550 01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:50,040 Speaker 2: lot of you know, inconvenience, if you if you're able 2551 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,600 Speaker 2: to do it, and and yet some people will tell 2552 01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:55,520 Speaker 2: you they wouldn't even do that. I really appreciate everything 2553 01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:56,800 Speaker 2: you say in the way you say it, because you 2554 01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:58,880 Speaker 2: don't try to force your opinions on anyone, and you 2555 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,920 Speaker 2: always make so much sense. I often think of Karen 2556 01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:02,840 Speaker 2: as my big sister who I can rely on to 2557 01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:04,360 Speaker 2: always give the best advice. 2558 01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:05,880 Speaker 3: She hasn't failed me yet. 2559 01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:09,040 Speaker 2: Everything for your advice about social media to forgiveness and 2560 01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:11,320 Speaker 2: understanding relationships with others has been on point. And I 2561 01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,600 Speaker 2: love listening to you guys every week without fail. I 2562 01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,680 Speaker 2: just want to add that when you talked about chores 2563 01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:17,520 Speaker 2: in the household, I remember that growing up, my parents 2564 01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,160 Speaker 2: were not big into sharing chores because of gender, mostly 2565 01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,680 Speaker 2: because I'm the only girl with the three other brothers 2566 01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,360 Speaker 2: older brothers, and my dad would not hear of me 2567 01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:29,640 Speaker 2: doing chores alone. We also had domestic help growing up, 2568 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,560 Speaker 2: so we really lived a life of privilege, but we 2569 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,720 Speaker 2: still had to do our chores, and my dad gave 2570 01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:36,840 Speaker 2: us weekly allowances that were based on our negotiating power 2571 01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 2: and not our gender. Yeah, that's actually a different concept 2572 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:40,800 Speaker 2: I've never heard before. 2573 01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,280 Speaker 3: Right, Like, nah, I need to make you. 2574 01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:44,320 Speaker 4: A good negotiator. 2575 01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:47,040 Speaker 1: Boy, you'll learn how to please your case. 2576 01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,520 Speaker 3: I need to get these premium lunches at school, Pops. 2577 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:52,760 Speaker 1: It's like you'll realize I've been doing an extra twenty 2578 01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:55,080 Speaker 1: five percent molde in my brother. 2579 01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,200 Speaker 4: Here are the numbers, daddy. 2580 01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:00,440 Speaker 2: Right, Thank you so much for enriching my and for 2581 01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,480 Speaker 2: shaming me and the care more about my own elections 2582 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:03,320 Speaker 2: of my voting power. 2583 01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:05,280 Speaker 3: They said it didn't work, But. 2584 01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:08,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for enlightening me about the life in the 2585 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,440 Speaker 2: US or the average black person, because I've been informed 2586 01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,800 Speaker 2: by the liberal white media only for too long. You 2587 01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,640 Speaker 2: guys are wanted the best part of twenty eighteen for me, 2588 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,720 Speaker 2: and I hope that twenty nineteen is filled with more 2589 01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,360 Speaker 2: laugh and more love and yes, more checks for sharing 2590 01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:22,440 Speaker 2: your wisdom with the world. 2591 01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:23,920 Speaker 3: We did get some checks this year. 2592 01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,960 Speaker 4: We did some checks this year. This has been good. 2593 01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:28,200 Speaker 3: We got some checks. 2594 01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,120 Speaker 2: You guys deserve the absolute best things, and I wish 2595 01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,400 Speaker 2: I could send you something for your wish list too, 2596 01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,000 Speaker 2: But it's been a pretty tough month and needs exchange. Race, 2597 01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:40,040 Speaker 2: don't play man, It's cool. I don't anybody feel obligated. 2598 01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:41,320 Speaker 4: We don't take it personally. 2599 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:45,160 Speaker 2: You appreciate y'all and appreciate y'all that think about it, right. 2600 01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,520 Speaker 1: If you five stars, I tell people file stars. 2601 01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,600 Speaker 4: That's how you pay us in five stars. 2602 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,440 Speaker 1: If you know you ain't got it, put five stars 2603 01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,080 Speaker 1: on it and I will be just as happy. 2604 01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Zizz left us a file star review. 2605 01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:58,320 Speaker 4: So thank you. 2606 01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:01,920 Speaker 2: Good From now though, I'm sending you out my love appreciation, 2607 02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:05,280 Speaker 2: not thoughts and prayers. Ha ps. Sorry for the long email. 2608 02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Don't worry about it with love. 2609 02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:06,640 Speaker 4: Zenz. 2610 02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,520 Speaker 2: This is my middle name and I often use it 2611 02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:12,920 Speaker 2: because it's easier for people to now pronounce all right, cool. 2612 02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:15,440 Speaker 3: Well, thank you Zenz. We appreciate you. It was very 2613 02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,960 Speaker 3: nice of you say it's such a nice show. 2614 02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Miss Stacey says generally and Healthy Roots Dear Riding Karen, 2615 02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm related to say that my girlfriends brought bought Healthy 2616 02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:31,480 Speaker 2: Roots dolls for their daughter and granddaughter. Ay I swear 2617 02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:33,880 Speaker 2: the link. I shd a link anytime I can now. 2618 02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:36,640 Speaker 2: For episode eighteen oh six, I absolutely hollered. I was 2619 02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:39,440 Speaker 2: a big fan of Dukes as a years later when 2620 02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:43,280 Speaker 2: I watched episodes when it aired on CMT, I saw 2621 02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:47,120 Speaker 2: all the defaults of the show being awoke adult and 2622 02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,320 Speaker 2: I know there are many shows that were problematic, so 2623 02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:52,040 Speaker 2: I don't dwell on that fact if that, if it 2624 02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:54,560 Speaker 2: was what it was, Love you too, Happy holidays with guards, 2625 02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:58,400 Speaker 2: Miss Stacy, thank you, thank you, and uh you know what, dog, 2626 02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,920 Speaker 2: I absolutely watch old problematic shit at the time. 2627 02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:04,320 Speaker 3: I just I understand that. 2628 02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:08,080 Speaker 2: I don't live my life based off of that shit. 2629 02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:11,320 Speaker 2: But yep, sometimes I'm like, this was fucked up back then, 2630 02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:16,720 Speaker 2: but living color what's funny. But you couldn't do it today. 2631 02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:19,880 Speaker 2: Everybody stopped asking for a reunion. You don't want that. 2632 02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:20,720 Speaker 3: You just think you do. 2633 02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:21,560 Speaker 4: Correct. 2634 02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:25,160 Speaker 2: We are adults and this is ridiculous. Episode eighteen eleven. 2635 02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:28,800 Speaker 2: So a girl ms Martiken. She says, hey, love you guys, 2636 02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:31,560 Speaker 2: b I'm not part of the Barti gang. I do 2637 02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,800 Speaker 2: like a few of her singles. I don't particularly find 2638 02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:35,680 Speaker 2: her loverboar or genuine. One hundred cent of the time 2639 02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:39,800 Speaker 2: she was just human. I want people to leave her alone. 2640 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,360 Speaker 2: I let this woman be. If she is not mad 2641 02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:46,640 Speaker 2: at sir set first name off, then we won't. 2642 02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:47,600 Speaker 3: Then we don't have to be. 2643 02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:49,520 Speaker 2: I do understand and respect that people are triggered by 2644 02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:52,240 Speaker 2: his actions, but but they are projecting a lot of 2645 02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:55,560 Speaker 2: their experiences onto the relationship and their reality. These people 2646 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,920 Speaker 2: are entertainers who live a completely different life than most 2647 02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,480 Speaker 2: of the general general public. She does do not work 2648 02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:01,880 Speaker 2: at a bank. He did not show up to her 2649 02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:04,080 Speaker 2: tailor station. This is a woman who routinely acted a 2650 02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:05,320 Speaker 2: plum food when she. 2651 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:08,000 Speaker 3: Was on reality TV. What is acceptable and what is 2652 02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,640 Speaker 3: not in her world is her business. Who who are 2653 02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:12,600 Speaker 3: me to judge? 2654 02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:15,640 Speaker 2: I think that labeling Sir said abusive is triggering for 2655 02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:18,000 Speaker 2: many black men because it echoes how the world season 2656 02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:23,320 Speaker 2: a stugs overly violent. That is absolutely true, because I'm 2657 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,840 Speaker 2: not saying for me, but I've listened to other podcasts 2658 02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:30,600 Speaker 2: with black men on it, and they, you know, do 2659 02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:33,160 Speaker 2: feel sensitive to the idea of being the face of 2660 02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:36,120 Speaker 2: domestic violence and stuff. Now I feel like, for me personally, 2661 02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:39,080 Speaker 2: the solution to that is to call out the other 2662 02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,000 Speaker 2: black men that are doing these things and the culture 2663 02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:45,920 Speaker 2: that enables us doing this shit and not giving any 2664 02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:48,080 Speaker 2: excuses to that. So I you know, but a lot 2665 02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:50,320 Speaker 2: of black men don't get to that level. They just go, 2666 02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, I feel attacked and I'm the victim and 2667 02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:55,400 Speaker 2: fuck y'all. 2668 02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:57,240 Speaker 3: Then if it's fucked me and fuck y'all, you know. 2669 02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Correct, Though I may think his actions are emotionally manipulative, 2670 02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,800 Speaker 2: the threshold for abuse is hazy, but when comparing to 2671 02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:07,160 Speaker 2: someone in that family getting killed, does not recognize that 2672 02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:10,120 Speaker 2: there are many shades and a greater approach to what 2673 02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:14,360 Speaker 2: abusive is that man, he's saying it better than I did. 2674 02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Should have let you do the show him showing up 2675 02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:19,760 Speaker 2: like that he proposed in public and she liked that. 2676 02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:22,080 Speaker 2: It's not the same as cussing her out of beating her. 2677 02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:24,720 Speaker 2: I can't and won't cake for the ashy. But when 2678 02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:28,800 Speaker 2: we say that abuse, that this is abuse, it cannot 2679 02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:31,280 Speaker 2: be overlooked that there are some parallels to calling black men. 2680 02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:33,560 Speaker 3: Thus just like just call him niggers. 2681 02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,040 Speaker 2: When the world has sold us rom coms and romantic 2682 02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:41,400 Speaker 2: gestures in a media slash art but seems but when 2683 02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,760 Speaker 2: someone does it, they get put in the same category 2684 02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:47,200 Speaker 2: as Ike Turner. Sir set seems dumb and full of 2685 02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:50,240 Speaker 2: come and an idiot. Cheating is hurtful and emotionally damaging. 2686 02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:52,360 Speaker 2: And I don't know that I would say it is 2687 02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:54,400 Speaker 2: abusive or not, because I'm just unsure. 2688 02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,360 Speaker 3: I do not know. I do know. 2689 02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:59,040 Speaker 2: I wish the best for young culture and Lady B 2690 02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:02,920 Speaker 2: and I hope she's in on it and then people 2691 02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:06,280 Speaker 2: get mad and leave her alone. That would be hilarious. 2692 02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:09,960 Speaker 2: I really don't want anything bad to happen to Cardi 2693 02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:13,720 Speaker 2: or whatever, Like I do worry that if this is 2694 02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,440 Speaker 2: some type of gimmick, she gonna end up catching a 2695 02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:19,080 Speaker 2: lot of people who were They were like, I had 2696 02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,240 Speaker 2: your back and I've been talking all this shit, and 2697 02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,720 Speaker 2: now you're back with this nigga and y'all saying it 2698 02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:28,080 Speaker 2: was just some type of stunt. I can see people 2699 02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,880 Speaker 2: being upset by her if that was the case. 2700 02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what is the case. As you said, 2701 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:33,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2702 02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:37,800 Speaker 2: And all the stuff you brought up that's kind of 2703 02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:41,800 Speaker 2: gray area or different or whatever that was not you 2704 02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,200 Speaker 2: were not able to even say something like that on 2705 02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:47,640 Speaker 2: social media, like and I didn't even make any of 2706 02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,920 Speaker 2: those points about black men don't want to be douzd shit, 2707 02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:53,080 Speaker 2: because you know, I really that wasn't even what something 2708 02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:57,520 Speaker 2: I was thinking about. But I have heard other black 2709 02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:02,560 Speaker 2: dudes express that, like damn, Like I like, that was 2710 02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:06,080 Speaker 2: not an act of him trying to harm her. That 2711 02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:08,120 Speaker 2: was an act of him trying to get back with her. 2712 02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:12,080 Speaker 2: That being said, you can still harm somebody even when 2713 02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:15,240 Speaker 2: you don't mean to, and you can still all those 2714 02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:17,760 Speaker 2: people that aren't in a relationship can still be reminded 2715 02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,360 Speaker 2: of all the men that showed up in places they 2716 02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:22,200 Speaker 2: weren't supposed to be after being told not to be 2717 02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:24,960 Speaker 2: places and told no and stuff and all that. Now 2718 02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:27,280 Speaker 2: they don't have like restraining orders or anything, so I 2719 02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:29,000 Speaker 2: don't know how serious it has gotten, but. 2720 02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:32,160 Speaker 3: That's a lot. You know. 2721 02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,320 Speaker 2: It's just crazy because I keep thinking of love and 2722 02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,880 Speaker 2: hip hop stories, and like every time I'm thinking of shit, 2723 02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, Kirk had a whole ass other baby, you know, 2724 02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:45,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he had a whole 2725 02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:48,720 Speaker 2: ass of the baby and they stayed together, and you know, 2726 02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:51,240 Speaker 2: everybody like kind of hates his guts, but then also 2727 02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:53,920 Speaker 2: they kind of just go with us love and hip hop, 2728 02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,840 Speaker 2: Like we don't have long conversations based off of that shit. 2729 02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, babies, look, Lakiita. 2730 02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:02,680 Speaker 2: Says, Yeah, it's just crazy, like all these people treat 2731 02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:05,120 Speaker 2: each other like shit on these shows, you know. 2732 02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:06,800 Speaker 3: And then I guess it's hard for me to. 2733 02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:10,760 Speaker 2: Define, like where is the line when we've seen Cardi 2734 02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:13,680 Speaker 2: do foul shit? But then somehow we want to talk 2735 02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,000 Speaker 2: pause it right here at this moment and go all 2736 02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:19,440 Speaker 2: right now, see clearly she is above this kind of shit, 2737 02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:21,200 Speaker 2: and I can't believe this will happened to her. And 2738 02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm like she kind of dabbles in and out of 2739 02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:27,600 Speaker 2: this shit too, Like is that wrong to say? 2740 02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:30,120 Speaker 3: Like you like I don't know. 2741 02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but okay, see on voter I D. 2742 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:36,560 Speaker 2: People are knowingly racist, even when it is so implicit 2743 02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:39,640 Speaker 2: that they delude themselves. The people that you described and 2744 02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:42,240 Speaker 2: the old poor black poor people, people don't care about them. 2745 02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:46,400 Speaker 4: True, that's why they apply these cast loss d. 2746 02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:48,880 Speaker 2: I bet my herschel Ali didn't say bruh in his 2747 02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:50,320 Speaker 2: apology to that man's family. 2748 02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure he didn't. 2749 02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:55,400 Speaker 2: E your commentary on Lady B Sir said and young 2750 02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:57,640 Speaker 2: culture was nuanced, and I appreciate it, and f refer 2751 02:06:57,760 --> 02:06:59,880 Speaker 2: back up to a which was I love you guys, 2752 02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:04,120 Speaker 2: less up, thank you, thank you. I appreciate y'all man, 2753 02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:06,360 Speaker 2: because I've been in my head about this ship all week, 2754 02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:09,160 Speaker 2: and Karen could tell you. We've had many dinners. I've 2755 02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:12,360 Speaker 2: been like, so, what about this angle? Am I saying 2756 02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:14,640 Speaker 2: it like this kind of way or you know? And 2757 02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,000 Speaker 2: Karen's just kind of you know, Karen's a little bit 2758 02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:19,800 Speaker 2: more like, man, fuck these niggas than I am. 2759 02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:23,440 Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, well, they could have a point. 2760 02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:26,120 Speaker 2: Karen's like them niggas are tripping, they're projecting, don't even 2761 02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,720 Speaker 2: worry about that shit, which I absolutely appreciate, but you know, 2762 02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,400 Speaker 2: I try not to just use be like, well this 2763 02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:34,360 Speaker 2: fits my agender fuck y'all, but right. 2764 02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:35,080 Speaker 3: And what's so funny? 2765 02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,840 Speaker 1: And sometimes a certain topics it's completely the opposite. 2766 02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:39,480 Speaker 3: So it just very on what it is. 2767 02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:43,760 Speaker 2: But I appreciate all the people, especially you care, because 2768 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:46,280 Speaker 2: I know I've been talking about this a lot this weekend. 2769 02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:47,560 Speaker 4: Oh and I don't mind talking with you. 2770 02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Look, we did get things in the mail. 2771 02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:51,760 Speaker 3: Let's talk about them. 2772 02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Allegra and Mariano sent us some chowry birds. 2773 02:07:58,200 --> 02:07:59,840 Speaker 3: They are in the refrigerator. 2774 02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:05,640 Speaker 6: Yes, I opened up the refrigerator and I see some cherry berries. 2775 02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:07,280 Speaker 4: And I came in here and I was like, who 2776 02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,680 Speaker 4: is this other woman that you've sent some berries too? 2777 02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,760 Speaker 2: There ain't nobody, but sure Shari doesn't send me some 2778 02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:14,440 Speaker 2: burds uh. 2779 02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:18,600 Speaker 3: As we say down South shirt birds. But yeah, we've 2780 02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:21,080 Speaker 3: eaten some and they were deliciously chocolate coated. 2781 02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,800 Speaker 4: Thank you and it's so gorgeous. 2782 02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:31,160 Speaker 3: We got some cards too. Let's see who this was from? 2783 02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:35,720 Speaker 2: Uh black al Merry Christmas, it says on the front 2784 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:40,440 Speaker 2: with a big white Christmas tree for white power. Yeah, 2785 02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:42,640 Speaker 2: at a happy New Year. Riding careen two of my 2786 02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,360 Speaker 2: favorite people. Much success and happiness to you in the 2787 02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:48,520 Speaker 2: coming year. I'm so proud of you and I can't 2788 02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:51,240 Speaker 2: wait to see what's next. Tiffany aka calib Beauty aka 2789 02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Boss geekery A, thank you. 2790 02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,080 Speaker 4: Some little calls to put in my drawer full of cards. 2791 02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:59,040 Speaker 3: We do have a lot of cars, Yeah, we do. 2792 02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:01,200 Speaker 4: I hold on it all to tell y'all be a grandma. 2793 02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:03,360 Speaker 2: Oh this one is like an envelope, like a like 2794 02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:07,160 Speaker 2: a melon lisize. Oh, it has a Yoda on the background. 2795 02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:11,560 Speaker 2: Oh ship, Wait is this from a leg ground Mariana, 2796 02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:12,880 Speaker 2: let me see. 2797 02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:18,200 Speaker 3: Oh oh it's bad boy up. Wow, they're so thoughtful. 2798 02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:19,880 Speaker 3: This is like recyclable paper and ship. 2799 02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:26,200 Speaker 2: Marry everything, it says, and on the side it says, 2800 02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:28,520 Speaker 2: wishing you marry everything this season with love. 2801 02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:32,920 Speaker 3: Allegra and Marianna. You go, thank you you sent the 2802 02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:35,360 Speaker 3: berries and then this you didn't have to. 2803 02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,680 Speaker 4: Believe the berries. Oh it's a fine piece of art. 2804 02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,160 Speaker 3: Crunch alright, this is beautiful. 2805 02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:43,240 Speaker 4: In my mouth, Yes, in my mouth. 2806 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:47,960 Speaker 3: I got another one. Let's see coming. 2807 02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:52,560 Speaker 2: From New York, y'all, girl, Tyanya, yay, look at this 2808 02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:56,600 Speaker 2: little mouse sleeping on some presents and stuff, y'all, says 2809 02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:01,880 Speaker 2: Rod and Karen, wishing you a warm and snugly, cozy, 2810 02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,560 Speaker 2: happy holiday, have a very merry Christmas and a wonderful 2811 02:10:04,640 --> 02:10:06,040 Speaker 2: New Year. It was so great to be able to 2812 02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:08,520 Speaker 2: attend the live show this year. The black Out Tips 2813 02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:11,720 Speaker 2: fans are awesome. I've never seen an event like that 2814 02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:15,640 Speaker 2: where complete strangers just started talking to one another. You 2815 02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:19,360 Speaker 2: both rule all the best, Tanya, thank you, and you. 2816 02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:21,640 Speaker 1: Know what you do maake a good point. Everybody was like, well, 2817 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:23,560 Speaker 1: we all know we like riding krons. 2818 02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:24,880 Speaker 4: So let's talk. 2819 02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:28,520 Speaker 2: And I love that about you guys, and nobody even 2820 02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,960 Speaker 2: got punched in the face, Like shout out to my 2821 02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:33,040 Speaker 2: people that wanted to punch people in the face and said, 2822 02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:35,360 Speaker 2: I respect ridder Caroen enough not to do it. 2823 02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:38,320 Speaker 3: Y'all are real MVP. Yes, y'all all, don't get it twisted. 2824 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,000 Speaker 2: A gift for you to my favorite podcasts, A little 2825 02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:46,840 Speaker 2: something to make Rise Adventures cooking easier, have a married Christmas, happening, 2826 02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:47,680 Speaker 2: prosperous New Year. 2827 02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:49,600 Speaker 3: This is from Jane. 2828 02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:54,919 Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all will not believe what she got me, my Nighglas, 2829 02:10:56,360 --> 02:10:59,960 Speaker 2: I got electronic salt and pepper grind us. 2830 02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:01,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2831 02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:02,920 Speaker 3: I was like, who this is fancy? 2832 02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:07,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like you mustn't really love me because 2833 02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:12,360 Speaker 2: on my you know, I cook a lot down and 2834 02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:14,720 Speaker 2: on my I put a picture on my Instagram and 2835 02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:19,000 Speaker 2: my Facebook that was like, man, my delicate wrists are 2836 02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:22,320 Speaker 2: hurting from this fucking these pepper grinders and soft grinders. 2837 02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:26,360 Speaker 3: These things hurt, Like I don't know about. 2838 02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:27,840 Speaker 1: This and I get only a little bit because it's 2839 02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:29,400 Speaker 1: nothing like fresh crack pepper. 2840 02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:31,560 Speaker 4: I'm not even just tasted so much better than food. 2841 02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:33,240 Speaker 3: And I was asking people for a solution. 2842 02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:34,960 Speaker 2: I was like, man, what can I do about this 2843 02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:37,000 Speaker 2: because this shit hurts and I'm not getting enough pepper 2844 02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:39,240 Speaker 2: or salt out of these things. And they was like, 2845 02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:42,440 Speaker 2: you can change the the thing on the inside, and 2846 02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:43,720 Speaker 2: I'm like that didn't really work. 2847 02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:44,920 Speaker 3: My hands still hurt. 2848 02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:48,160 Speaker 2: And then finally they were like you can get electric, 2849 02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:49,280 Speaker 2: when I was like, I'm gonna add it to my 2850 02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:52,600 Speaker 2: wish list and see if somebody get it, and somebody did. 2851 02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:56,920 Speaker 4: Appreciate. Thank you for thinking about us, and he has 2852 02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:57,920 Speaker 4: been cooking more. 2853 02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:00,320 Speaker 3: Thank you for being a friend. 2854 02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:05,280 Speaker 2: Yes, Simon says, Happy holidays. Riding can great shows. I 2855 02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:08,280 Speaker 2: get introduced to new candles too. Y'all are the best. 2856 02:12:08,440 --> 02:12:11,320 Speaker 2: Hope you enjoyed a small token appreciation, enjoyed. 2857 02:12:11,080 --> 02:12:14,600 Speaker 3: The smell goods. I'm trying to think. Oh yo, this 2858 02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:15,320 Speaker 3: was from last week. 2859 02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:19,640 Speaker 2: Okay, the banana but the banana butt, banana nut bread candle. 2860 02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:25,560 Speaker 3: Smell my nuts. These nuts. We appreciate those. 2861 02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:32,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh absolutely, we got Oh wait, I got two 2862 02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:34,200 Speaker 2: more cars before I get to this one. 2863 02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:36,960 Speaker 3: All right, let me open this one up. 2864 02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if y'all still want to send us cars, going 2865 02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:42,960 Speaker 1: to blackout hootips dot com click on about us and 2866 02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:44,320 Speaker 1: has our meiling of dreads. 2867 02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:46,040 Speaker 2: I'll put our show notes. Put in the show notes 2868 02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:48,000 Speaker 2: one more time, and that'll probably be it for the year. 2869 02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:51,760 Speaker 3: Happy holidays. What's some marshmallows? 2870 02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Snowman and on the inside says, wishing your absolute joy, 2871 02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:58,520 Speaker 2: Wishing you absolute joy this holiday season. Congrats on all 2872 02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:02,680 Speaker 2: your success you deserve. Bye, Samantha, Thank you, Samantha, thank you. 2873 02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:07,240 Speaker 3: We appreciate you. That's adorable, little card. I love these cards. 2874 02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:15,040 Speaker 3: All right, one more. 2875 02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I go through that Jordan kind of 2876 02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:16,160 Speaker 1: organize right now. They just kind of all in the 2877 02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:17,040 Speaker 1: little Joridan together. 2878 02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:22,080 Speaker 2: Then Oh my girl, babe, coko o qt look at. 2879 02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:26,160 Speaker 1: Her all girl, you is everything I be liking our 2880 02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:26,760 Speaker 1: older pics. 2881 02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:30,000 Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna lie. Come on, man, cutting on 2882 02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:32,160 Speaker 4: these hos like. 2883 02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:35,040 Speaker 2: I don't care how many booty models I follow on Instagram, 2884 02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:37,240 Speaker 2: I always have a like for you. Okay, come on, 2885 02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:39,880 Speaker 2: don't ever, don't ever let it slip. Who's important to 2886 02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:41,320 Speaker 2: love ones from man? 2887 02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:42,360 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 2888 02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:46,120 Speaker 4: Yes she had like. 2889 02:13:46,040 --> 02:13:47,400 Speaker 3: A professional photo shoot. 2890 02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:49,880 Speaker 4: Yes you did stunting on these foods. 2891 02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:52,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry this one first? All right? So then 2892 02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:55,400 Speaker 3: we got this. It is wrapped up in the Amazon 2893 02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:56,000 Speaker 3: gifts thing. 2894 02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:58,760 Speaker 2: Happy holidays, right and Karen great shows and I get 2895 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:01,400 Speaker 2: introduced to candles to Okay, so simon, this is from 2896 02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:03,520 Speaker 2: this week. Okay, I read yours already. Let me open 2897 02:14:03,640 --> 02:14:05,720 Speaker 2: up and see what's in it. I guess I hadn't 2898 02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:06,320 Speaker 2: opened it yet. 2899 02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:08,160 Speaker 4: You might have to do the outside things. 2900 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:12,000 Speaker 2: Trust me. I know how to open up something. I 2901 02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:13,480 Speaker 2: know how to secure the bag, if you know what 2902 02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying. All right, it is a white box, y'all. 2903 02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:21,800 Speaker 4: We got a white box. 2904 02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:23,920 Speaker 3: See what's inside the white box? 2905 02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:29,040 Speaker 2: All sniggtyds nuts. 2906 02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:31,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I can't believe. 2907 02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:37,120 Speaker 2: You got us these nuts, that's what we wanted. Oh 2908 02:14:37,160 --> 02:14:39,600 Speaker 2: and this banana bread flavored. Okay, so this is m 2909 02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:42,520 Speaker 2: almost like banana banana pudding. 2910 02:14:42,680 --> 02:14:43,440 Speaker 3: That's fell good. 2911 02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:47,960 Speaker 2: And you know what's funny, Ironically, during this show, the 2912 02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:50,000 Speaker 2: candle always burn a candle when we do the show. 2913 02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:54,480 Speaker 3: During this show, my candle went out. You know it's 2914 02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:59,560 Speaker 3: like it's like, you guys really get me. All right, 2915 02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:02,240 Speaker 3: I'm about to light up the new candle right now. 2916 02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:09,960 Speaker 1: And then we got one more thing. 2917 02:15:07,840 --> 02:15:10,680 Speaker 3: You want me to do yours, But I ain't get 2918 02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:11,360 Speaker 3: you nothing yet. 2919 02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:12,040 Speaker 4: I don't care. 2920 02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:17,880 Speaker 2: Okay, but uh, your gift is in the your gift 2921 02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:21,600 Speaker 2: is in the in the apartment office. 2922 02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:25,880 Speaker 3: Oh damn, they closed. I guess tomorrow. Okay, it's tomorrow 2923 02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:28,680 Speaker 3: Christmas Eve. No, okay, cool, So I guess tomorrow we 2924 02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:33,960 Speaker 3: can get it. Mele Christmas and a Prairie New Year. 2925 02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:37,360 Speaker 2: Sending our best wishes to a wonderful holiday and great 2926 02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:40,080 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. The Rider Carrn thanks for all your hard 2927 02:15:40,120 --> 02:15:41,440 Speaker 2: work and for aspiring me. 2928 02:15:42,040 --> 02:15:46,480 Speaker 3: Snocky delicious. This is the uh, this is the cat all. 2929 02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:52,200 Speaker 2: And then let me open up this tin. Inside the 2930 02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:57,520 Speaker 2: ten is something that smell good. Some snacks or something. 2931 02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:03,040 Speaker 2: And it got some that's some type of flowering, some 2932 02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:07,920 Speaker 2: type of urban health. Oh oh yes, oh we got 2933 02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:09,520 Speaker 2: some chocolate brownie treats up in hell. 2934 02:16:10,360 --> 02:16:10,760 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 2935 02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:13,880 Speaker 4: Long talking about and you get a little thing too. 2936 02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:16,720 Speaker 3: What was it? She gave us that bacon last time? 2937 02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:19,640 Speaker 4: What jam? 2938 02:16:19,960 --> 02:16:22,160 Speaker 3: Oh and she gave us speaking of bacon, she gave 2939 02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:22,920 Speaker 3: us bacon jam. 2940 02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:23,960 Speaker 4: Okay, that's what it was. 2941 02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:26,480 Speaker 2: Okay, she gave us that chocolate cold bacon last time 2942 02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:27,680 Speaker 2: was in st. 2943 02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:32,240 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Thank you. We appreciate you. 2944 02:16:32,360 --> 02:16:32,760 Speaker 4: We did. 2945 02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:37,080 Speaker 2: And uh I think that's Oh and then the last thing, 2946 02:16:38,480 --> 02:16:39,879 Speaker 2: I'll go ahead and open this now. 2947 02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:41,520 Speaker 1: Careen, Yes, since you were already I thought that's why 2948 02:16:41,560 --> 02:16:42,560 Speaker 1: you put it over in the first place. 2949 02:16:42,560 --> 02:16:52,280 Speaker 2: My bad, It's fine, uh m. 2950 02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:58,160 Speaker 3: Opening the last box, all snuff. 2951 02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:06,760 Speaker 2: This is exactly what I needed. I got the bevel tremor. Okay, 2952 02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:11,480 Speaker 2: the same hell the same hair intension that cut Barack 2953 02:17:11,520 --> 02:17:17,040 Speaker 2: Obama's infamous presidential main Come on. 2954 02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:20,360 Speaker 1: So so in the enddirectly way you've had, you've got 2955 02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:21,520 Speaker 1: to touch Barack Obama. 2956 02:17:21,680 --> 02:17:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm moving into the it's a wireless it has four 2957 02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:27,080 Speaker 2: hours worth of power in it. I've moved into the 2958 02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:32,600 Speaker 2: motherfucking twenty second century wireless. Uh, they not gonna know 2959 02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:33,119 Speaker 2: what hit him. 2960 02:17:33,160 --> 02:17:35,160 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, baby, You're welcome. 2961 02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:40,879 Speaker 2: All right, guys, that is us, That is it we. 2962 02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:43,800 Speaker 2: I think we're doing one episode this week, might do 2963 02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:45,440 Speaker 2: tomorrow and then take the rest of the week off, 2964 02:17:45,879 --> 02:17:47,360 Speaker 2: possibly all the way to the end of the year. 2965 02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2966 02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:50,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for everybody that took the time out to 2967 02:17:50,840 --> 02:17:52,760 Speaker 2: whether you send us stuff, wrote the stuff, hung out 2968 02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:56,040 Speaker 2: with us in the chat, left feedback or whatever. 2969 02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thank you. 2970 02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,280 Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk to you y'all later. Until then, I 2971 02:18:02,360 --> 02:18:03,480 Speaker 3: love you. I love you too. 2972 02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:03,879 Speaker 4: Wh