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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's Monday morning. Let's go October thirteenth of

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Speaker 1: the twenty fives. You've stumbled into morning combat. Luke Thomas

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Speaker 1: This is Brian Campbell, the best damn combat sports show

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Speaker 1: Can't trust that day. But you know you have a

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: There are many kinds of dumps, Brian Campbell, as I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you are well aware. This morning the order of

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Speaker 4: business was a power dump, like a true a true offloading.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable, Wow, historic times great to hear.

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Speaker 4: Also also not for nothing, but like getting able to

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Speaker 2: My wife took it to her petting zoo.

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Speaker 4: So Twoki's not here, but we're not petting zoo but

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Speaker 4: I don't remember any fight night post fight celebration that

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable, and look, the numbers are staggering when you

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Speaker 1: But it's still dough Bronx at this point, or predator

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Speaker 4: So first of all, he was absolutely connecting the dots

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Speaker 4: That's why his timing never misses in some of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's gonna have that win record. He's

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to circle back on Gambra Luke. I

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Speaker 1: his zone on the feet, but I feel like he

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Speaker 1: had almost too confident, too much confidence in himself on

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Speaker 1: the ground, and he found out he after round and

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Speaker 1: he found out.

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Speaker 4: Uh, there's no question he after around and found out.

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Speaker 4: I Mean, here's the thing you have to kind of

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Speaker 4: consider about Gamrot is that people are gonna say, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: it's because he couldn't do well enough in the striking

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Speaker 4: that he had to go to the wrestling, which is

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Speaker 4: there's an element of truth to that, right, he obviously

443
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Speaker 4: doesn't have the stand up skills. Now, not everyone's gonna

444
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Speaker 4: have the stand up skills that Charles does, but it

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Speaker 4: was like he had almost nothing right, there's no real

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Speaker 4: I think there was a couple of times Olavera tried

447
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Speaker 4: to double jab backhand and he got hit with one

448
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Speaker 4: time coming in like that, but he walked right through it, right,

449
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Speaker 4: So it wasn't that big of a deal. But the

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Speaker 4: reality is two on the ground BC. Like if you

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Speaker 4: look at Gamrock's record, for example, he's got a k

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Speaker 4: over Scott Holtzman I was in twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 4: then he had a submission over Jeremy Stevens which was

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Speaker 4: also in twenty twenty one. But like basically since Let's

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Speaker 4: see twenty twenty two against Ryuki and daryush Jalen Turner.

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Speaker 4: He beat physibe, but that was off an injury are Rda,

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Speaker 4: Dan Hooker, Klein. All those fights were decision And what

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Speaker 4: it tells me is the pursuit of jiu jitsu, in

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Speaker 4: the pursuit of ground and pound in grounded positions was

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Speaker 4: also not enough of a development for him. Like the

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Speaker 4: way in which he's been winning is sort of the

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Speaker 4: establishment of control positions that he could maintain even if

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Speaker 4: he had to change them through the course of a round.

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Speaker 4: But it could more or less maintain and could more

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Speaker 4: or less, you know, do some work to to you know,

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Speaker 4: have not the ref he stands you up or whatever,

467
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Speaker 4: but not enough to really like really put it on opponents,

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Speaker 4: not consistently, and that curd him too. This is the thing, man,

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Speaker 4: It's like skilled development. It's not a question of whether

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Speaker 4: Gamrat works hard. There's no doubt in my mind he

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Speaker 4: works hard. But has he trained in a way the

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Speaker 4: last five years, for example, that put him in a

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Speaker 4: position to really develop his ground and pound positional advancement

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Speaker 4: the offensive dilemmas between the two. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: the evidence for that would necessarily be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it it and you knew it right away. You

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Speaker 1: knew it right away that he was a step behind Olivera.

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Speaker 1: That it was that maybe if he could build it

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Speaker 1: toward five rounds, he could figure out a long term thing,

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Speaker 1: especially if he could try to tire Olivera. But he

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Speaker 1: never got there, and that's a credit to the new predator,

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Speaker 1: the old Doe Bronx. Call him what you want. So

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Speaker 1: speaking of calling him, of course, it was a call

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Speaker 1: out afterwards for Max Holloway. And that's a great, great fight,

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Speaker 1: a great storyline given that they fought so many years

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Speaker 1: ago at a different division and Holloway getting a win

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Speaker 1: at a time where Olivera. What was the injury Luke

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Speaker 1: that that that led to that victory for Max.

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Speaker 2: It was like a neck injury.

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Speaker 5: It was like esophagus or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he grabbed like his neck or his throat and

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Speaker 2: it was weird. It was.

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Speaker 4: And this was remember so this was also in Charles Olavera.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna sound crazy to say, but back then it

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Speaker 4: was true. It's not true anymore. He was a little flaky, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: He was like he would have weird performances, he'd get

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Speaker 4: kind of injured, he would just kind of fall apart.

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Speaker 2: This is in the middle of that stretch. Even though

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Speaker 2: he was still pretty good back then.

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Speaker 1: Some people thought he was a quitter. He would obviously

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Speaker 1: proved that wrong during his title run for sure. But

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Speaker 1: the idea that you know, you had Charles calling out

504
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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor before this fight for a White House BMF fight,

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Speaker 1: this makes more sense against Max. It does, potentially, though,

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Speaker 1: leave Patty Pimblet out of a major fight at this moment.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna get Ilia versus Justin Gatchee potentially in January,

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Speaker 1: which you hear some rumors, we already know we're getting

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Speaker 1: Saraiki and versus Hooker coming up for a quasi number one,

510
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Speaker 1: a tender fight based upon who wins and how good

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Speaker 1: they look. Patty's still in that mix, but looking for

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Speaker 1: a fight. Yeah, this makes a lot of sense for

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Speaker 1: both men, Holloway and Oldavera, to do with the star power,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they both still got a great amount

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Speaker 1: left under that hood in their in their mid thirties.

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Speaker 1: Here we got an almost instant reaction from Max Holloway,

517
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Speaker 1: who streamed live on What was It kick or twitch

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Speaker 1: or one of those things. Afterwards, do we have the.

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Speaker 2: Video or the or the video?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's check in on Max's reaction to this.

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Speaker 1: I know, Bro, I know, I know already.

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Speaker 7: I see the chat. You know, Bro, we're here, Bro,

523
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 7: we heard the call out. Tell them funny time hotelling.

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Speaker 7: Now bre have have a fight the White House.

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Speaker 1: So long to wait it?

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Speaker 7: He's such a long wait, you know what I mean?

527
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Speaker 7: And make no promises though it'd be a fun one.

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Speaker 7: And we've been talking about this fight. Me and him

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Speaker 7: have a history. He's blaming it on some type of injury.

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Speaker 7: I guess we'll get to five figure it out. No,

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Speaker 7: I guess we get to figure it out now. Huh,

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Speaker 7: Man is good not good? Man is getting better. My

533
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Speaker 7: man is getting better, and we're just we're just waiting

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Speaker 7: to get cleared. I haven't really got back on the

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Speaker 7: match yet. I've been doing some straining conditioning, but that's

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Speaker 7: about it.

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Speaker 2: Later so.

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Speaker 1: Uh. He would go on to say that he would

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Speaker 1: prefer this fight in March. Do you think the UFC

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Speaker 1: would put this as a pay per view main event

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Speaker 1: given the star power for March?

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Speaker 2: I mean, they got to do well again, CBS star

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Speaker 2: Power in March.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, at the point pl star Power.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, l that's right. Yeah. So I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how they're gonna They got to do something like listen,

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Speaker 2: January is the first of the year and June is

548
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Speaker 2: the sixth. You got four months in between there. You

549
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Speaker 2: got to fill out some you know, numbered shows or

550
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call him. I just feel like

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Speaker 2: it'd be a great opportunity if he doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: compete at the White House because it's too long of

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Speaker 2: a way, because it's you know, essentially you're in Q two.

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Speaker 4: At that point, right or Q three excuse me? So

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I totally get it. I totally get it.

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Speaker 4: So I would be totally I'd listen. The sooner the

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Speaker 4: better as far as I'm concerned. As you heard him say,

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Speaker 4: his hand is still messed up. He's doing strength and conditioning.

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Speaker 4: He's not fully back to training and whatnot, but he can.

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Speaker 4: He intimated in the video bec he was like, that's

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Speaker 4: too long of a wait, it's too long of a wight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Fire him up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Holloway has actually won four of his last five,

564
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Speaker 1: the only loss being that Tapooria knockout the first time

565
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Speaker 1: he was stopped in their lightweight or in their featherweight

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Speaker 1: title fight. Right now, of course, to Poria atop this division.

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Speaker 1: I mean, could you see though, if this fight happens,

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Speaker 1: does the winner get get a title shot immediately due

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Speaker 1: to that star power connection and the fact that both

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Speaker 1: are rated in the top five.

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Speaker 2: It depends what they do with Patty.

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Speaker 1: That's really that's right, right, because if you're keeping Patty

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Speaker 1: out of this January debut, if that's the way they go,

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Speaker 1: then you could be looking at a I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you don't need to put it on the White House card,

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Speaker 1: but we can make it a main event at any point.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Patty versus Elia, and that's a major, big ordeal. Look,

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Speaker 1: how different do you think this fight would look Olivera

579
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Speaker 1: versus Holloway with these versions of them right now in

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Speaker 1: this division? Say that again, how different would Olavera Holloway

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Speaker 1: to look now that they are advanced in age and

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Speaker 1: at the lightweight division.

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Speaker 4: I just can't imagine it would look like the first fight.

584
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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, one never knows. Mma is crazy.

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Speaker 4: Max wasn't nearly as good then as he is now.

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Speaker 4: Certainly he has more miles, that's obviously a part of

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Speaker 4: it too. However, he's significantly more skilled. And if you

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Speaker 4: didn't really again, if you didn't really know Charles Lavera

589
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Speaker 4: back then, it was not in any way obvious that

590
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Speaker 4: this guy, you knew he was going to be a

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Speaker 4: submission threat and go for it, but you thought that

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Speaker 4: might actually physically cost him because of how much he

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Speaker 4: was getting hit and how much it really affected, you know,

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Speaker 4: even fights he won. It was just kind of like

595
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Speaker 4: a brutal slog. He has significantly improved. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: this fight BC, this fight could be an amazing fight.

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Speaker 4: It could be on par what you know, if you

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Speaker 4: didn't know they were actually weight class champions, it might

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Speaker 4: look like it was.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say as good as fighting gets.

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Speaker 4: But absolutely no reason to not make this one, to

602
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Speaker 4: be foolish not to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because the UFC doesn't prioritize Brazil these days.

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Speaker 1: Do they not even have a TV deal there? Still?

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Speaker 4: I don't know the current state of it. I mean,

606
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Speaker 4: they did have the biggest one they were on Globo,

607
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Speaker 4: but that one' respired.

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Speaker 1: But you know there it isn't the type of nation

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Speaker 1: where they can charge, you know, insanely high ticket prices.

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Speaker 1: You don't see a lot of pay per views are

611
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Speaker 1: now plis go there anymore. Although we did just see

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Speaker 1: what UFC three to Zho one was the last one.

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Speaker 1: You've got maxwaning UFC badly to go to Hawaii, but

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Speaker 1: there's some logistical issues there. Do you believe the UFC

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Speaker 1: would do what olivera is asking to put him in

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Speaker 1: someone like Poeton on a doubleheader and go do a

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Speaker 1: big ass stadium there? Probably not right?

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Speaker 4: Probably not? You know again, the one thing that I've

619
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Speaker 4: been thinking about and I don't know the answer to this,

620
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Speaker 4: and you know, maybe you can tell me if there's

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Speaker 4: a lesson to be learned from the professional wrestling side,

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Speaker 4: which is, and we've talked about this before, in a

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Speaker 4: world of pay per view, obviously we already know the

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Speaker 4: UFC will take pay per views to Australia, they'll take

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Speaker 4: them to you know, regularly, they'll take them to the

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Speaker 4: Middle East and the Emirates. You know, they've taken them

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Speaker 4: to Brazil. But in general general, and of course you

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Speaker 4: know you kke up a few times as well, in

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Speaker 4: general they happen in North America, which is not an

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Speaker 4: accident because the overwhelming majority of the pay per view

631
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Speaker 4: buying audience has been in North America. But if pay

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Speaker 4: per view goes away, now, yes, if you're on CBS,

633
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Speaker 4: then obviously your product needs to be catered to what

634
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Speaker 4: CBS is going to prefer. But let's say it's a

635
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Speaker 4: numbered EVENTBC that doesn't necessarily air on CBS, which again

636
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Speaker 4: I know there's some lack of clarity about in a

637
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Speaker 4: case like that, why do you have to have it

638
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Speaker 4: in North America? Now Again, if you're going to have

639
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Speaker 4: it at some crazy time like for you know, it's

640
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Speaker 4: perfect time for the Japanese audience, your viewership will suffer

641
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Speaker 4: and to the extent that they have to really maintain

642
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Speaker 4: those viewership numbers, maybe what I'm about to say doesn't

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Speaker 4: make sense.

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Speaker 2: The point I'm just trying to make, or at least a.

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Speaker 4: Question I'm trying to ask anyway, is to what extent

646
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Speaker 4: does removing the pay per view component free the UFC

647
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Speaker 4: up to play with geography of their main events and their.

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Speaker 1: Events more depends upon At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I think it still depends upon how much is that

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Speaker 1: city or country paying for the site fee and how

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Speaker 1: much do they believe they can make on the live

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Speaker 1: gate with ticket prices.

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Speaker 4: But like, I mean, but that part too though, is

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Speaker 4: like I mean again, we can debate, like what is

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Speaker 4: the right amount for the UFC to be hosting events

656
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Speaker 4: on Brazil? What does that mean? How many events annually

657
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Speaker 4: does that look like? And that's a debate you can have.

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Speaker 4: But just in terms of being a talent pipeline, Brazil

659
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Speaker 4: is an extremely important market, maybe one of the most,

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Speaker 4: if not the most important markets in the world. Even

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Speaker 4: if you're not bringing shows there because you can maximize

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Speaker 4: ticket prices, certainly, maintaining a presence in that market is

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Speaker 4: a kind of investment you have to pay to maintain

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Speaker 4: that spot or maintain that hotbed of talent at the

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Speaker 4: levels that it that it is, right, isn't that part

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Speaker 4: of going there?

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Speaker 1: I agree? I mean that is a MMA, you know,

668
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Speaker 1: BJJ and MMA mad Country. Just life's part of the culture,

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Speaker 1: part of the lifestyle obviously along with football, Luke and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Urt a lot of curview women too. You gotta, you gotta,

671
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Speaker 1: you know, you do have to speak out on that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you were you were like yo yo

673
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Speaker 4: these uh i can't even do it.

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Speaker 2: I can't even do it.

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Speaker 1: Don't be putting them ruskies down, Luke, Okay, picking them

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00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: up instead. All right, let's get grosser. No one more

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00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: thing from OLIVERA the dad. How about that moment with

678
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: his son. I thought he was going to drop him

679
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: when he palmed his kid, and it was very lion

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00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: King asked Luke, you're a hashtag girl, dad, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about this?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm typically of the belief that there should

683
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Speaker 4: be limited conditions under which babies are brought into the

684
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Speaker 4: UFC octagon, you know, just for all party's sake. However, well,

685
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: Risky and I did take a bit of a breath

686
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: watching this.

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Speaker 2: I think all's well. That ends.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not progressive enough to argue for a an

689
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Speaker 1: in octagon birth during a fight. That's not something you're

690
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Speaker 1: looking for.

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Speaker 2: I think there's plenty of blood already. I don't know

692
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Speaker 2: if we need to add that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, people that don't know about the floor

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Speaker 1: of an operating room post pregnant.

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Speaker 2: It's a murder scene. It's a murder scene. Yeah.

696
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Speaker 4: By the way, I saw on Netflix. I saw on Netflix.

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Speaker 4: Do you see the new BTK Killer.

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Speaker 1: Documentary I have not no So, dude, you.

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Speaker 4: Remember the BTK killer, Like he was in the seventies.

700
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Speaker 4: He was killing a bunch of women and stuff in Uh.

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Speaker 1: Sam, what are you talking about?

702
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Speaker 4: No, No, BTK buying torture kill. He kills a bunch

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Speaker 4: of people in the seventies. A bunch of dudes try

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Speaker 4: to take claim for it, and he actually writes a

705
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Speaker 4: new station and being like, no, no, it's me, And

706
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Speaker 4: then he includes details that only he could possibly know,

707
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Speaker 4: and he loves the attention. He keeps doing it, but

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Speaker 4: it stops for like twenty years. He does it again

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Speaker 4: in the nineties, but then eventually he gets caught. Dude,

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Speaker 4: his daughter, he had a daughter. His daughter speaks about

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Speaker 4: her his dad or her dad, excuse me, and it's uh,

712
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Speaker 4: it's insane. It's absolutely insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Netflix says cornered the market on insane documentaries of

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Speaker 1: Lake Deep inside the Membrane. All right, now's a good

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Speaker 1: Of course, the the sirah Gan challenging Tom aspinof for

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Speaker 1: am Eastern Wednesday, October twenty second from the Meadow Larks

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Speaker 1: Studios in Manhattan. Although previously advertised, Jed Meshu number two

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Speaker 1: is no longer able to make it, Luke, but we

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Speaker 1: found a suitable replacement.

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Speaker 4: He has to Jed told us, and he told us

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Speaker 4: to tell you guys this, that he has unbearable crab

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Speaker 4: nether regions.

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Speaker 2: So yep, we wish him the best.

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Speaker 1: We do we do one Charles J. Mendenhall. Okay is

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Speaker 1: back into the Iceman two wednesdays from now. Don't miss

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Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going down there in hel

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Speaker 1: where we did see by the way, the King of Hio,

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Speaker 1: Jose Aldo, officially laid down those gloves for the final time,

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Speaker 1: family around him. Look, we don't get weird ceremonial things

752
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: like that in the UFC too often. That one felt good, right.

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00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: It did feel good. I actually was very heartened to

754
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Speaker 4: see this. I thought this was a very classy gesture

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Speaker 4: by them, seemed well received by all parties.

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Speaker 2: Well done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jose had a tear in his eye, but he

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Speaker 1: earned it. He deserved it. All right, Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to the main card. The co main event there or

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Speaker 1: one of the featured fights. Sorry. Joel Alvarez, the Spaniard

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00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: moving up to welterweight. He was more than a five

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Speaker 1: to one betting favorite against a Vicente Luk, who we

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Speaker 1: were wondering there at age thirty three whether he still

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Speaker 1: had it wow. Alvarez lit him up from pillar to post.

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00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: There was a referee controversy built into that, and that

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Speaker 1: led to a little bit of a tussle on the

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Speaker 1: microphones that we mentioned earlier. But first and foremost Luke.

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Speaker 1: This stops a streak for Joel Lvarez, who had finished

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Speaker 1: every single opponent he has beaten in his MMA career.

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Speaker 1: But it was weird in round three where he had

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Speaker 1: a headset on Luke and both guys seemed to be

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Speaker 1: content to sort of just sit there with it the

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Speaker 1: fight goes the distance. I was overall impressed with Alvarez.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people on my timeline were like impressed,

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00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: No where do you come in on that? On his

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00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: one sided drubbing, I mean beat Luke. It beat the

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Speaker 1: shit out of him Luke, and that's a guy who

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Speaker 1: who fought some big names right there. I was impressed

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Speaker 1: by Alvarez. His welterweight debut.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he beat him like a drum. I'm not, honestly, Like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not. Why is this his fault? Of all the

782
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: people you could blame for, Like why that fight ended

783
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 4: up the way that it ended up, Why would it

784
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Speaker 4: be his fault?

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. He was crisp, his boxing was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Like I get it, Oh he didn't. He didn't go

787
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: there and maul Luke in round three. Okay, he didn't

788
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: go in there and when it looked like he could

789
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Speaker 4: have mauled him, It's like, did y'all see what happened

790
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: to him in rounds one and then then especially rounds two?

791
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 4: Like the guy clearly took mercy on him. And I

792
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 4: know you're not supposed to, but there's been circumstances where

793
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: people do that, and you know, I don't love all

794
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: of them either, but in this one, I kind of

795
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Speaker 4: get it. Like the dude the guy he was fighting,

796
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: had talked about brainybe We had a brain skin issue

797
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: that held him out for a little bit BC and

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00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: it was a brain bleed issue, I believe, So Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I totally get why he would actually soft pedal it

800
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Speaker 4: in round three, I realized that's boring to watch and

801
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: it's not what he should be doing.

802
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be advancing the fight.

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Speaker 6: Dude.

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Speaker 4: The referee could have taken a point from him, to

805
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: be perfectly honest, like that would have been well within

806
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Speaker 4: the right to do, but it didn't. Again, once again,

807
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 4: there's a lot of other people you could blame for this.

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Speaker 4: You want to put a little bit on Joel Alvarez, fine,

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Speaker 4: but it seems to me like there's a lot of

810
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 4: other things that happened here too, dude.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're gonna we're gonna get right into

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Speaker 1: this referee controversy. But first and foremost, I'm it's sad

813
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: to see Luk who's always been an action fighter, who's

814
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: always brought it to names better and bigger than him,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's won some, he's lost some, but

816
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: he's not lost. He came in losing three out of

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Speaker 1: his last five and being stopped in all three. He

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Speaker 1: probably would have gotten stopped here if that weird you know,

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Speaker 1: leg choke wasn't going on around his neck. I mean

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Speaker 1: sad to say it, Luke, but he kind of looks

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Speaker 1: past it here at age thirty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an inverted triangle that he had.

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Speaker 4: He just didn't finish it. But I was an inverted triangle.

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Speaker 4: Luk needs to consider his health here.

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Speaker 2: You know everyone always says, oh, you can't tell another

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Speaker 2: guy to retire. Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 4: I'm not his mom. I can't do that. But what

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Speaker 4: I can say is he's taking the kind of damage

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Speaker 4: that either is already or soon will and probably already has,

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Speaker 4: going to affect his quality of life later on in life.

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Speaker 2: Like this is.

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Speaker 4: If this was in pursuit of winning efforts for the

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Speaker 4: sports highest honors and paychecks, this would be something of

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Speaker 4: a very different conversation. But we're not there. That's not

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Speaker 4: what's happening. This is an extraordinary amount of damage. For Yes,

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Speaker 4: is Luk a good fighter. He's a very quality fighter.

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Speaker 4: Everybody knows that. But the kind of performances he's turning

838
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Speaker 4: in are not super high quality. They're not up to

839
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Speaker 4: the standard that we know him to sometimes be, and

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Speaker 4: they're coming at extraordinary costs. This is the very moment

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Speaker 4: where some reflection about what you want to do with

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Speaker 4: your life. Remember, b see, he speaks multiple languages, he's

843
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Speaker 4: done some commentary work. He is very articulate. He's clearly

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Speaker 4: quite bright, but there's there's some thought that needs to

845
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Speaker 4: go into like saving these things like a Chris al

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Speaker 4: Jeri did for use in life later, and the kinds

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Speaker 4: of ways that can reward you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's having those conversations, but he needs.

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Speaker 1: To immediately agree. I think that's well said right there.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of shocking to see his face. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: he's getting hit too much. His face doesn't hold that

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Speaker 1: resistance well. And in the first round he took a

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00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: left short left hook that ultimately the knuckle hit him

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Speaker 1: right in the eye. He would react as if he

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Speaker 1: was poked. He probably thought in real time he was.

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Speaker 1: But Luke local Brazilian referee whose name I do not

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Speaker 1: currently have.

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Speaker 2: I think it's oh Cyrus Myra.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he Ocyrus Myra could not have botched this more.

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Speaker 1: He's stopped the action. It is kind of instantly discovered

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Speaker 1: upon replay that this was from a clean punch, not

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Speaker 1: a poke. Instead of restarting the fight, he then allows

863
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: the KG side doctor to come in to examine the eye,

864
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: giving Luke an unnecessary amount of time to recover before

865
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: we get into Bisping's over reaction. What do you make

866
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: of the handling of this referee and are we all

867
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: correct to say he should have just restarted the fight

868
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: the moment that the replay official let him know that

869
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: this was a clean shot.

870
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: Dude, I gotta say, like, and I realized, they're not

871
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: in North America where people can say that this might

872
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if people think this is I'm like,

873
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: obviously there are great judges and referees who aren't in

874
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 4: North America, but the centerpiece of how MMA rules came

875
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: to be and the culture around that did come from

876
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 4: the United States. Again not exclusively, but the vast majority

877
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: of that. So, like, the best training typically is there,

878
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: the best referees, of course not always, but typically can

879
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: be there. Or again you can get somebody like Mark

880
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: Goddard who's been training in you know, in those places

881
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: and abroad. Anyway, the point'm trying to make is there's

882
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: a bit of a trade off when you go to

883
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: Brazil in terms of the if you're gonna use local referees,

884
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 4: what kind of quality you're gonna get. So that's partly

885
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: what's happening here. But yeah, this was a don't you

886
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: just feel like, I mean, I'm not saying that over

887
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: the years, I haven't witnessed improvements in real ways to

888
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: various forms and jobs within the officiating world. At the

889
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 4: same time, I'm not sure if I felt like referee

890
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 4: work was sloppier than it is now, and generally I

891
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: go for everything.

892
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: They're making obvious mistakes, I like, not even in ways

893
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: where you could say, okay, well, maybe the Commission is

894
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: universally telling them to focus on this. It's a wildcard.

895
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: It's a giant buffet of buffoonery.

896
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: Yes, you just never know what you're going to get.

897
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: You're never gonna know if the rule is gonna even

898
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: if two plays like because it's one problem if you

899
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 4: have let's say State X and State why, and they

900
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: actually have different rules, right, that's kind of a problem.

901
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: But if you actually have a place where X and

902
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 4: Y have different referees but the same rules, you might

903
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 4: expect some variants, but it should be closer. And it

904
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 4: feels like we're just not getting that with at least

905
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 4: in this case, with osirus MAYA and plenty of other places.

906
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: And again even last week we had Keith Peterson or

907
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: whatever whatever one goes whatever it was his last time

908
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: out Keith Peterson just absolutely categorically refusing to take a

909
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: point or beyond. You know, there's four foulsers, like even

910
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: a minor but real headbutt between rounds, and they're not

911
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: doing anything. Either they're not enforcing the rules BC, or

912
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: they're enforcing them selectively, or they're just making it up

913
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: as they go. We saw that submission a couple of

914
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: weeks ago. It was where the referee didn't count it

915
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 4: but then did, or maybe it was the opposite something

916
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: like that. What was that long Island Luca card Like

917
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks.

918
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: Ago it was Neil Magni, j Magne's.

919
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: And Jake Matthews. They're just making this shit out as

920
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: they go. They're not enforcing the rules. And he missed

921
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: this one, John Gooden. I'm sure we'll get into it now,

922
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: but John Gooden was right. Once you realize after replay, hey,

923
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 4: he actually guess he did get hit in the eye,

924
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: but it was some more a legal punch. There is

925
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 4: no time out on your feet and fight it out

926
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 4: or quit. What those are your choices And to your point, BC,

927
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: that didn't happen.

928
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think we all said we're gonna talk

929
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: about Lucas Almada's broken hand, but Jason Herzog let him

930
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: get hung out to dry in this card as well,

931
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: and just take a beat in before that stoppage. But

932
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about the reaction here. Look, I got nothing

933
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: personal against Michael Bisping, and but I have been on

934
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: record and saying that he's probably my least favorite UFC

935
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: Live fight commentator. Think he's a great personality on a desk.

936
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: I loved him on the Fox Studio show. They used

937
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: to have, you know, established podcaster, all that legend of

938
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: the sport. But to use a two man booth involving

939
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: him is just asking for more mayhem than you already get.

940
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: And what do I mean by mayhem? I just mean

941
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: from a broadcasting standpoint, the guy doesn't follow the traditional lanes.

942
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: He acts as if he's the play by play guy

943
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: and the color commentator throughout the entire broadcast and leaving

944
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: scraps for the third person usually and talks over everyone

945
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: and all a lot, a lot of things that from

946
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: a mechanical technical standpoint of broadcasting is tough to listen to.

947
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: This one in particular, though, when it was a two

948
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: man booth with just him and John Good, and they

949
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: had Heidi andrel of course, as the ringside report creates

950
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: side reporter, but Bisping was just snappy, I mean, yelling

951
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: at Gooden to let him talk. The key part was

952
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: about this referee time out in round one, where Bisping

953
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: was arguing that it should have been a TKO win

954
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 1: for Alvarez. I think he was intimating that Luke had

955
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: like quit, but Luk, I'm assuming thought he was poked.

956
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: So it was obviously a confusing scenario, one in which

957
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: the referee made harder by allowing that doctor to come in.

958
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: But to hear Gooden, who's you know, seem like a

959
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: class guy, seems like a solid announcer, just get talked

960
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: down to by bis being and when Good's just trying

961
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: to explain to him that the fight should have continued, Luke,

962
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Is there an argument for what Bisping is saying that

963
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: the fight should have been a stopished? Because I don't

964
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: agree with that under any interpretation of the rules. And

965
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: even further, is there an argument that this guy shouldn't

966
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: be rained in more? Because I'm not gonna say my

967
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: ears are bleeding, but it's not a it's non enjoyable.

968
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Listen it's it's ten minute stories. It's it's taking something

969
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: simple and describing every part of it in a circle

970
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: and a loop to the you know, leaving others the

971
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: out of the opportunity to speak. It's too much, dude,

972
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: it's too much.

973
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a few things I would say on this,

974
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: just as a general observation, BC, I'm just gonna say this.

975
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 4: I think it's way too often that you've got UFC

976
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: fighters in commentary roles who consistently seem to struggle with

977
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: rules knowledge. Right here, you have a case where John

978
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: Good never fought. He does train jiu jitsu, but has

979
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 4: never fought, just took it upon himself to learn the rules.

980
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 4: He was the one unless there's just a special set

981
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: of rules that cab MMA has that's the Brazilian which

982
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: I don't believe is the case the Brazilian Commission. He

983
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: was the one arguing correctly. And this isn't just you know,

984
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: specific to one commentator, and not all of them, by

985
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: the way, I think there are some that do. But

986
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: you know, I just feel like there's a lot of

987
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: these athletes who obviously are very talented broadcasters, certainly very

988
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: talented fighters, and think that that is just enough to

989
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 4: carry the day, and it's not. Understanding what the rules

990
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: are in a commentary position is critical and it is

991
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm frankly non negotiable. You you don't have to have

992
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 4: the most insane command, but a basic literacy of them

993
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: is important. And what Michael Bisson was arguing is to

994
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: my knowledge, not correct. It was what John Gooden was arguing,

995
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: which was once the referee ascertains that this was an accident,

996
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: the point at which you're having a time out immediately ceases,

997
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: and you either start the fight again or you can

998
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 4: you know, if he doesn't want to continue, then the

999
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: fight's over. But those are those the only choices that remain.

1000
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: Let me say something BC as somebody who has you know,

1001
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: may or may not have snapped at his.

1002
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: His on air co host.

1003
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 4: Let he who is, without sending cast the first stone

1004
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: in a circumstance like this, you know, I have actually

1005
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: done something relatively recently, as a matter of fact, just

1006
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: kind of like this, maybe even worse. So I'm not

1007
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: gonna sit here and beat up Missing for that, because

1008
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not the person for that. I have

1009
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: my own issues. What I can say, though, is having

1010
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: lived through that experience a little bit is maybe to say,

1011
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: you know, you got to take a look in the

1012
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: mirror and realize it doesn't matter why you felt the

1013
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: need to say that.

1014
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: It's unacceptable. You know.

1015
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 4: And again you and I and even spirited debate can

1016
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 4: happen in a commentary booth. Absolutely spirited debate, I think

1017
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: is something that the listeners on occasion would actually be

1018
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: up for. But snapping at each other that's different. That's

1019
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: a different thing. And if you're doing that, it's incumbent

1020
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: upon the person doing it to take a look in

1021
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: the mirror and examine why do they need to have

1022
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: a talk privately off camera about some friction that might

1023
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 4: be exsting.

1024
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm making something up. I don't even know

1025
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: if that's it.

1026
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, whatever it is, you got to take

1027
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 4: it upon yourself to solve that issue. And then lastly,

1028
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: the thing I would say bec is just about the talking.

1029
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: It's like I think, you know, and again I'm I

1030
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 4: do a little bit of a commentary. I don't make

1031
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: any claims about how good I am. And in fact,

1032
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: the last show I had two bad fuck ups that

1033
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 4: are kind of eating at me a little bit. I'm

1034
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 4: not saying this is somebody who's got this shit figured out.

1035
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Far from it.

1036
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: You're better than me on the boxing, well, far better

1037
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: than me on the boxing side, and commentary, I think

1038
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: more broadly, so I think you can speak with a

1039
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 4: little bit of more authority. But what I am gonna

1040
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: say is just a lesson I've learned. And I do

1041
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: think you're right. If there's a criticism you can make

1042
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: of this being it's he simply talks too much. It's

1043
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 4: just too much talking. And I think a lot of

1044
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 4: broadcast situations can be improved by just having a little

1045
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 4: bit less to say.

1046
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think if he can learn

1047
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: to speak in sound bites and make those those sounds matter,

1048
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be more beloved and will allow his personality

1049
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: to come on. And I've said this before and I'll

1050
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: say it once more. I also think he's a natural heel.

1051
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: It's just his personality. You can be that natural heel

1052
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: as a color announcer, especially as a former fighter, lean

1053
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: into that. Just don't dominate the broadcast, That's all we're

1054
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: saying there. Uh Luke. There was this Luk moment after

1055
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: round two where it seemed like he was telling his

1056
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: corner that he did not want to continue, or he

1057
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: wasn't sure. Do you think there's an argument for a

1058
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: stoppage there in this Alvarez fight.

1059
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely worth asking the question, and I'm

1060
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: glad you did. I don't know what the answer is here,

1061
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: because I respect Henry Hooft, I certainly respect vincente Luke.

1062
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 4: I don't know the ins and outs of what they

1063
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 4: have said to each other in the corner, because here's

1064
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: one thing, I've jumped the gun on this kind of

1065
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 4: stuff before, and then come to find out that there'll

1066
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: be certain contours of a relationship you don't fully appreciate,

1067
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 4: that certain language will sound really bad.

1068
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: Uh, and then.

1069
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: It's a little less clear when you actually do some digging.

1070
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 4: On the other hand, we also know it to be

1071
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: true that in my judge, well okay, I believe is

1072
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: better maybe way a better way to put that BC

1073
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 4: that there are not enough proactive corner stopping fights in MMA.

1074
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: Now again, Joel Alvarez didn't do a whole lot to

1075
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: be sent he in the third, but somebody else might have.

1076
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 4: And I think he got away with one. And he

1077
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,479
Speaker 4: was asked like how are you feeling? And he said

1078
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: not good? I believe long I looked at it.

1079
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: Get that right? He said not good between the second and.

1080
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 5: Third round, Yeah, something like that. I don't remember exactly

1081
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 5: what he said.

1082
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: Well enough, yeah, I mean it's just it's a very

1083
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: simple kind of it's it sounds overly simplistic, BC, but

1084
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: it's like if you ask the guy how they're doing

1085
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: and they can't even like fake a good maybe maybe

1086
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: they shouldn't be out there, you know.

1087
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. To close on

1088
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: Joe Joel Alvarez here in his welterweight debut, improving to

1089
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: eight and one over his last nine. Here is Joel

1090
00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: reacting to this victory. Look, I like that. He's not

1091
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: going to entertain a cup back down once more. Welterweight

1092
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: is his future? Is the future bright for him? This

1093
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: is a deep division. It's probably the deepest from one

1094
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: to fifteen that we have. I release. It felt like

1095
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: that about three four months ago. Is this guy sort

1096
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: of an instant contender in your eyes?

1097
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: Well? I was hardened by this. I don't know again, Okay, fine,

1098
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 2: you didn't love the third round out there? All right?

1099
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: Who did? But he didn't look small.

1100
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Luke is not the biggest welterweight, but he didn't

1101
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: look it anyway. Alvarez outgunned out physically sized at one's seventy,

1102
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: he seemed like pretty appropriate. He looked fast, he looked sharp.

1103
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: You know, again, there's criticisms to make of him, like

1104
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 4: there is any fighter, but I don't know, it seemed

1105
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 4: like to me, I was like, wow, he actually looked

1106
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 4: like he could do something here. And again the fact

1107
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 4: that he just kind of annihilated Luka in the second round,

1108
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 4: I was actually I left this whole thing being pretty

1109
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: hardened about his welterweight campaign and BC thirty two years old.

1110
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know exactly how good Alvarez is

1111
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: gonna be, but he's a tough out. He's certainly a

1112
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: violent guy. You're adding to an already super stacked welterweight division. Yeah,

1113
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: I don't know what the problem is.

1114
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him. I think he's fun. I think

1115
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: now he's not gonna have the thing hanging on him

1116
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: of the weight cuts of it dragging him down. I mean,

1117
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: we might be seeing that with drawn Boutsennes. By the way,

1118
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: now at one fifty four, we'll get to that. How

1119
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: he just looks like he's not carrying that physical burden anymore.

1120
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Here's a tweet though about that third round in which

1121
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: the fans did not love here from Geera may Cruz.

1122
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Alvarez has the inverted triangle locked in but obviously won't

1123
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: finish Luk from that position. So crowd is now chanting, Hey, referee,

1124
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: fuck you. I mean, look what do you do? In

1125
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: that spot? Alvarez is clenching the cheeks to try to

1126
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: get the tap. Obviously Luke is okay. Like in that

1127
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: spot he gave the thumbs up. It felt like both

1128
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: were content to just ride it out.

1129
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, both were contended to ride it out.

1130
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: There's no and this this kind of goes back to,

1131
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: like you, if your fighter is suffering but still wants

1132
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 4: to compete, then it's a really more difficult question, and

1133
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: you probably err on the side of letting them compete.

1134
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: But Luke wasn't.

1135
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 4: It didn't look to me like he had like competitive

1136
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: fire in that answer between the second and third rounds.

1137
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 4: And then look at look what he turned in on

1138
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 4: the third BC. Yeah, like did that look like he

1139
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 4: had Like did that look like somebody who was trying

1140
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 4: to win.

1141
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: I would submit to you it was not no.

1142
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: Tough to see there, but big win for Joel Alvarez.

1143
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: Let's transition to topic number three, which is the rest

1144
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: of the UFC Fight Night Rio card from Saturday. And

1145
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: in that Colemane event, Boy, did we have a streaking

1146
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: Montel Jackson having won six in a row, looking to

1147
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: crack into the ranked portion and the title contending portion

1148
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: of this bandamweight division. He took on a former two

1149
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: time Flyway champion in Devison Figaredo, who had a lot

1150
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: of questions coming in from age to recovering from the

1151
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: knee injury in the illness that had him looking not

1152
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: so great against Corey Sanhagen. But on a night where

1153
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: we would find out we didn't know what we thought

1154
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: we knew about Charles olivera same thing could be said

1155
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: in this Colemane. How about Figi bouncing back getting the

1156
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: split decision victory, eyeing on his wrestling early and then

1157
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: just using the threat of the wrestling to keep Montel

1158
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: at bay from distance. The fight was not overly exciting,

1159
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: particularly down the stretch where it looked a little bit

1160
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: more like a sparring match. But Luke, you don't see

1161
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: people at this advanced age in a division this small

1162
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: retaining contendership like this. I mean, we're even shocked there

1163
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: what olivera just did at lightweight. How I don't know

1164
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: if happy or proud are the right words, but what

1165
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: were you in your fields? After Figgie bounced back and

1166
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: got the win right.

1167
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: Here, I was happy for him, but I didn't.

1168
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

1169
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: I was very happy for him. It was a nice

1170
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: feel good moment.

1171
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: He turned thirty eight and two months by the way.

1172
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing that he is as competitive as he

1173
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 4: is the stage. You can see why he won a

1174
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 4: UFC title right that level of we talked about with Charles, like,

1175
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 4: you can see why he won a UFC title. It's

1176
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 4: not really a mystery. At the same time, it's like,

1177
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: did this win make me feel like, oh, he's back?

1178
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't say I got that. I thought

1179
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: he was coming back a little bit too quickly from

1180
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 4: his knee injury.

1181
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: Again he won.

1182
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: I thought Montel Jackson was, you know, sort of stubborn

1183
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 4: as an opponent, which makes it hard to look good against.

1184
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1185
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 4: Maybe you feel differently if you do, please say so.

1186
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: But I just didn't watch this and go, oh, well, yeah,

1187
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 4: I mean, let's, you know what, two more good wins,

1188
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 4: he's back in the title contention.

1189
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: I just don't.

1190
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Feel that I took it more as I didn't think

1191
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: he's not as far out after losing two straight fights

1192
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: against good opponents that I assumed he was at this age.

1193
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so undersized for this division, yet he's

1194
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: able to control distance, He's able to use the thread

1195
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: of that right hand. In this fight, he used the

1196
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: threat of that wrestling. I thought it was a smart

1197
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: veteran performance, but if you want to be real, the

1198
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: real thing we learned about this is that Montel Jackson

1199
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: isn't ready for prime time. Unfortunately for him. I mean, look,

1200
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: hands the size of you know, giant ass water melon basketballs,

1201
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 1: like just monstrous hands that didn't trans late in this fight.

1202
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: It was an underwhelming performance for an American at a

1203
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: time when American mma can use a boost.

1204
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that this is more to me.

1205
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: You're asking who I learned more about. I learned more

1206
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 4: about Jackson the fact that this was a great step

1207
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: up opportunity, and again he didn't look shabby.

1208
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: He just couldn't get much done.

1209
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 4: And to your point, B see, that also certainly speaks

1210
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: to Figaredo's level of, you know, even baseline ability. But

1211
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: you know, if you're not able to win those kinds

1212
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: of fights against a guy who is older in Figaredo

1213
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: and coming off of a pretty devastating injury, you know,

1214
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 4: there's some pretty significant questions about your upside at that point.

1215
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: So unfortunately, that's kind of the lesson that I took.

1216
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: Hey, Long Island, Looke, we had tears in the eyes

1217
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: of Figaredo. Were you not feeling anything? Because I was.

1218
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: I was happy for the guy.

1219
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 5: I was happy for him. I did throw in before

1220
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 5: the fight started a former.

1221
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 6: Champ parlay Figgie and Olivera was like plus six hundred,

1222
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 6: so I was pretty bad.

1223
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad right there? All right, let's go further

1224
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: on down the card. What a debut for the lady

1225
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: goat of Brazilian jiu jitsu. We're talking about former decorated

1226
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Brazilian jiu Jitsu champion and practitioner be

1227
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: A Mosquita, who, at age thirty four, scored a dominant

1228
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: win in her UFC debut against somebody who will show

1229
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: and have you seen this shit is becoming one of

1230
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: my favorite crazy undercard fighters. And that's that's Rocket Ronda,

1231
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: Russian rocket Arena alex Eva. Look this was one sided.

1232
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: We got be a mesquite mestita going to full mount

1233
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: and just I mean look that time she had her

1234
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: the arm trapped around.

1235
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: What do you call that gift rep.

1236
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: The she gift rep the shit out of her in

1237
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: full mount, reigning down strikes. I'm not ready to put

1238
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: her in there against Kayla Harrison, but to make a

1239
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: transition from a dominant run in one discipline of martial

1240
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: arts now to the highest level of UFC pretty impressive

1241
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: to kick off the career in my opinion.

1242
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: What about y Yeah, that gift rapp was real nice.

1243
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 4: I mean one of the things you know, I'm an

1244
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: old piece of shit and IBC, but one of the

1245
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: things I learned when I used to roll back in

1246
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: the day with very very good people is they don't

1247
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: just break your grip. They break your grip and then

1248
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 4: keep it and they keep it for themselves. If you'll

1249
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 4: notice there's a moment where she peels back on the

1250
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 4: blade of the hand Alexeva's arm and then uses that

1251
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: to then she peels it and then controls it right.

1252
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 4: So it's just sort of it just reminded me like this.

1253
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 4: You know, every part of her jiu jitsu game is

1254
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 4: just obviously high, high quality, but it's those little details

1255
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 4: about you know, the thing, the things that good ones

1256
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 4: do versus really consistently excellent ones do, and she has that.

1257
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 4: She looked awesome, you see, you know, her her LFA

1258
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: run was also pretty impressive. This was an overmatched opponent.

1259
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 4: I think we can all agree there.

1260
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: She was not up to par you game, She's wacky

1261
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: in game. You gotta give Russian Ronda that.

1262
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: Okay, she had she pushed her to a second round,

1263
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 4: so she had to you know, start the attack over again.

1264
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: But it obviously went from bad to worse, very very

1265
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: you know what ground and pound and also what I'm

1266
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 4: gonna say is you just don't see many people who

1267
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 4: have that level of mount in mma anymore, where they

1268
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: can just float position to position to position to position

1269
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 4: inside of mount and then still terrify you with ground

1270
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 4: and pounds.

1271
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: So really nice to see what she turned in. Great performance.

1272
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as long as Luke would tell us, Russian

1273
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: and Ronda had never been finished before, so a sort

1274
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: of dominant start. Now, look Luke Forbia, the striking didn't

1275
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: look world class, but she's muscular, confident, obviously experienced at

1276
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: a very high level. And when we consider the women's

1277
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: bandam weeight division, which we rarely consider, we've got a

1278
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: superfight coming up with Kayla and Amanda. You've still got

1279
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: former champions in Rocky Pennington and Juliana Pana who are lingering.

1280
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: But you could use a player in this division. When

1281
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: was the last time you got excited, you know, outside

1282
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: of the free agent pickup of Kayla Harrison that there

1283
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: was a rising women's bandon weight who could potentially make noise.

1284
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: Question obviously is going to be how much noise? So

1285
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Speaker 1: how do you how do you come off of this

1286
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: one performance? Like will they be will they be matching

1287
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: her quickly? Or is this still going to take time?

1288
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 4: In your eyes, she's thirty three, thirty four, They're gonna

1289
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 4: move this one quickly.

1290
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: I think I don't know.

1291
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: The only thing for me remains the question is BC

1292
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: is how much her takedown translates at the higher.

1293
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: End of this division.

1294
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: When the when the opponents have better balance, better takedown offense,

1295
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 4: better take down defensive habits, you know harder to get

1296
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 4: hold of, because you know there's some stuff where you know,

1297
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 4: you're looking at what she did here and leaning too

1298
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 4: far this way and taking some risks that I don't

1299
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 4: know if other opponents might punish or not. But if

1300
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: she could solve that problem, BC, then I think you

1301
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: know again, Mackenzie Dern, she's only now getting good at

1302
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: ground and pound, and obviously she has great submissions, but

1303
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 4: she had no takedowns and she had no ground and pound.

1304
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 4: Remember she used to balance on her head from the

1305
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: back and then punch this way like this, totally mechanically

1306
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 4: awful way of trying to attack.

1307
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: You.

1308
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 4: Look what yourself from Mosquito. She's building in damage through

1309
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 4: positional advancement all the way right now. That's that's a

1310
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 4: much healthier sign.

1311
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I was. I was fairly impressed overall. And

1312
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: not only did she dispatch a red rocket Russian rondo

1313
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: with these, she then turned her her her exploits toward

1314
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: the American version. Must listening to this sound.

1315
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 8: Eleven years ago you told me you you consider doing

1316
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 8: the transition from jiu jitsu to mma to fight round

1317
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 8: the rousing, And now eleven years later you're fighting Russian

1318
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 8: Ronda at uf Cereal and now there are talks of

1319
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 8: maybe around the Rousing coming back to m A. Is

1320
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 8: that maybe a long time ago? Uh? And now it

1321
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 8: could come to us to our reality.

1322
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: What a crazy coincidence. I' mean happy reminder. Well, I

1323
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 3: don't know who told she's the Russian rounda Rouse, but

1324
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 3: well if she says so, it's what she believes. But

1325
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: I prove it that my take down to some point.

1326
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: And and I mean, I'm a very big fan of

1327
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 3: Ron the true Ronda Rousing. She made history in the MMA,

1328
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: and she opened a lot of doors for all the

1329
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: womans that are coming out as well as me. So

1330
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: I respect a lot all her history and everything she

1331
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: did to the MMA. Woman's be what it is today.

1332
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: So I really hope she comes back. Everybody enjoy her

1333
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: fighting a lot, and I think that would be amazing.

1334
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 3: They arm Babatto even knowing that I didn't got my

1335
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: arm biys yet, But who knows, maybe fighting her it's

1336
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: gonna come. I don't know, but I really respect her.

1337
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of everything she did, and I'm

1338
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: just happy if she's coming back. It's going to be

1339
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: amazing for the MMA. World then, especially for the woman's Now.

1340
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Speaker 1: For the record, Ronda has not announced that she's coming back,

1341
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: but these training videos do seem to create some talk.

1342
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: The training videos, the shape she's in, the matter of

1343
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: fact way, she's talking about rediscovering her love. But I

1344
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: don't think Bea would be on that opponent right away.

1345
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: But it's interesting to think about Luke Thomas gun to

1346
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: your head. Will Ronda Rouse you ever fight in the

1347
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:06,959
Speaker 1: octagon again?

1348
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think she will.

1349
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: Wow, I did not think I was ever going Sorry,

1350
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 4: my laptop is dying and I'm trying to get the

1351
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 4: charge going here. I never ever thought I would say

1352
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 4: something like that. But I don't think she's coming back

1353
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 4: for nothing. This white house car and everything. It's just

1354
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 4: all too coincidental. And again, the way her MMA career

1355
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 4: ended was given to its heights. It ended in kind

1356
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 4: of this like I don't know, pretty ignoble way where

1357
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 4: she refused to even like I'm not even gonna look

1358
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 4: at the MMA media like like where your problem?

1359
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: Like where are the ones who hurt you?

1360
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 5: You know?

1361
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: Uh So, I don't know. I think coming back from that,

1362
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I think she might be will Yeah.

1363
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: She needs another betch Kohea. Why don't we just give

1364
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: her Fiona?

1365
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: You could do that? Yeah?

1366
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: Is that the same weight clause?

1367
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure, Yeah it is.

1368
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just thinking out of my all right, let's

1369
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: keep it moving down this card, Luke, we did see

1370
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: some bangers in terms of big time finishes. What do

1371
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: you make here ultimately? Well, first of all, Vitor Patrino

1372
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: at heavyweight. Now, dude, that two punch knockout in round

1373
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: three of Ahubby Thomas Peterson. Dude, that should be a

1374
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: highlight we see again. Man, that was some nasty stuff

1375
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: right there.

1376
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got him coming forward, so then he just

1377
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: kind of like flops like a like a sea lion.

1378
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: Fantastic finish for a jack dude looking to reamind himself.

1379
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: Larger picture talk might come at heavyweight here from Mario

1380
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: Pintu of Portugal, but he's got a UK accent and

1381
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: he definitely fooled Michael Bisbey in the postfight interview by

1382
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: saying he doesn't speak English, but he needed less than

1383
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: two rounds to get Johanada Dnes out of their denise nuts. Luke,

1384
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: what do you think about Pintu? Should we be looking

1385
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: at him as a riser in a shallow division.

1386
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was a fun little thing.

1387
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 4: He's Portuguese and Denise is Brazilian, so they brought the

1388
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: Portuguese guy over to Brazil. The Brazilians apparently. By the way,

1389
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: Shasta Gierme Cruz over at MM fighting. He was covering

1390
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,479
Speaker 4: this event in both Portuguese and English, and I thought

1391
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: he did an amazing job. Really gave great coverage and

1392
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 4: helped people to understand a fight and I better than

1393
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 4: they ordinarily would have.

1394
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: So in general he was great.

1395
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: But he was talking about this fight BC and all

1396
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: like the anti colonial things people in the audience were

1397
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 4: yelling at him, you know, which I thought was kind

1398
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: of funny. But dude, he looked pretty good. I mean,

1399
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 4: it was weird. He was like, I don't speak English,

1400
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 4: and then he was like, friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me

1401
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 4: your ears, and I'm like, I don't know, brother, I

1402
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 4: think the English is pretty good, but hey, undefeated.

1403
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: He fought in a I wouldn't. I mean, I would

1404
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: say this.

1405
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 4: The finishing mechanics on the paint brush the Americana were

1406
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: real bad, which is why it didn't work, because if

1407
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: the elbow comes up, there's nothing really torquing it. It

1408
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 4: has to come down this way, not like this, but

1409
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 4: like open and then like this and then that way.

1410
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 4: That's how you get it anyway, so that he needs

1411
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: a little bit of work. He needs a little bit

1412
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: of work, but heavyweight could use him. Let's say it

1413
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 4: that way.

1414
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can use anybody with a pulse right there.

1415
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the featured prelim at featherweight where all's

1416
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: well that Michael as Well ends well got a first

1417
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,480
Speaker 1: round TKO victory over Lucas Almeida, but the MMA detectives

1418
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: on X all week we're focusing on the obvious broken

1419
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: hand that Almeida was showing up to the press events with.

1420
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: He never threw that right hand in the bout that

1421
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: was stopped in the first round, and it felt like

1422
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: the referee was looking for this guy to go out

1423
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: like a warrior Luke like potentially to the terms of death.

1424
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 1: How does this even get sanctioned?

1425
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 4: Here's what I just can't wrap my head around. How

1426
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 4: is it People on Twitter will know a guy is

1427
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 4: injured based off of making visible observations of their condition,

1428
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 4: typically though not always at way in events. So either

1429
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 4: the ceremonial or the real one. This will affect betting lines, right,

1430
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 4: so now money is changing the way it is coming

1431
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 4: in one way or the other as a result of

1432
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 4: these observations. And then somehow all of that can happen.

1433
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 4: But the fight doesn't get called off either by the commission,

1434
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 4: who appears to be not aware of any of these things.

1435
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 4: I don't know if people who work at athletic commissions

1436
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 4: have cell phones BC.

1437
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: That maybe they don't even have computers. I really don't know, dude.

1438
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: I get that you could hide like neurovirus from a

1439
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,440
Speaker 1: medical professional.

1440
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: By no, this is being observed. This was people were

1441
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: talking about that.

1442
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: Show you your filangies here and get inspected.

1443
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: How how did this happen?

1444
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 4: I don't Because he goes in there, he never throws

1445
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 4: that hand that's injured, he tries to throw out of

1446
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 4: South Paul, he gets tuned up quickly with right hands

1447
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 4: that were coming over the top, and you know, he

1448
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 4: gets kind of polished off. And it's like, why this

1449
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 4: fight should not have happened, like matter of factly it

1450
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 4: should not have happened. And who was responsible for that is?

1451
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 4: I guess the promoter, I guess the commission. I'm not sure,

1452
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 4: how that's really supposed to go down. It's just insane

1453
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 4: to me that people in the commission are like, no,

1454
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 4: we don't see anything. It's like, dude, it's all over

1455
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 4: social media. Yeah, and the betting lines are moving. How

1456
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 4: are you not noticing?

1457
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, James Kraus saw that. I'm wondering if Long

1458
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: Island Luke did did you follow the trends on this bet?

1459
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 6: So Unfortunately I put my bets in on like Thursday,

1460
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 6: and I had it now made a bet at plus

1461
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 6: one twenty four night plus two fifty.

1462
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 5: Yes. Yeah.

1463
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: I also wanted to shout out straweight Julia Pilastri of Brazil,

1464
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: who man, she gave it to Carolinakovo Keevitch almost to

1465
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: the point where you're wondering if the thirty nine year

1466
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: old Carolina should should end it now. She was game

1467
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: as always, but the look the short punching power of Pilastrey,

1468
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: who's in great shape, has a ground game. I'm wondering

1469
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: if we got someone here at straweight. I think that's

1470
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: not her fifth straight win.

1471
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: You were, yeah, and also how about this set the

1472
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: tone right away with that body.

1473
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: Kick up the middle and you know what I mean?

1474
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 2: Right away was like.

1475
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 4: This is what it's going to be tonight. You know,

1476
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: you can figure out how you want to get it.

1477
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: I got a dead wrong in real time BC. She's

1478
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: two and two in the UFC, and that she was

1479
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 4: coming off a loss.

1480
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I take that back. Then the over excitement,

1481
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: but she did look good in this fight. I should

1482
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: probably do my homework.

1483
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 2: Lastly, lastly, koble Keevich.

1484
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, she took a lot of abuse in

1485
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: this fight, and she tried to fight back with heart,

1486
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 4: but not a ton of ability. She's also got some

1487
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 4: questions to be asking about what's next.

1488
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: I think it should be next. I think it should

1489
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: be it. But Long Island, Look, you are a master

1490
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: of the undercards, and they usually happened before your sobriety

1491
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,839
Speaker 1: gets challenged. What else did you pick up on Saturday?

1492
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 6: Not so much the undercard was on the main card.

1493
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 6: But my boy con Offley, the Australian got his first

1494
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 6: UFC win. He had the backpack on Kardo o'hamos there

1495
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 6: choked him out. I mean I was impressed with him.

1496
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 6: Not so impressed with the other Aussie Stewart Nickel. He

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01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 6: was kind of a little bit of a letdown there.

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Speaker 6: Other than I feel like we covered Jaffelle Felio getting

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Speaker 2: That was a good one. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was surprised that that worked because he kind of

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Speaker 6: So the opening bout was interesting. Luan laserradas Simon Oliver.

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Speaker 6: Have you guys ever seen that in MMA? I don't

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Speaker 1: All right, let's slide it over to the topic number four.

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Speaker 1: In six months after a unified boxing welterweight titles with

1580
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Speaker 1: a one sided demolition of unbeaten Imontes Staniosis, Philadelphia's own

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Speaker 1: Juran boot Tennis was at home on Saturday on his own,

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Speaker 1: also making his debut at one hundred and fifty four pounds. Now,

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Speaker 1: His opponent, we Sma Lima came in with a hard

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Speaker 1: and nothing close to the athleticism. In the end, it

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: was a destructive two knockdown first round t KO win

1589
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Speaker 1: for Boots Ennis, who offensively looked like a nightmare, switching stances,

1590
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Speaker 1: landing a lead uppercut to hurt Lima before a beautiful

1591
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: two punch combo put him away. Lima tried to last,

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Speaker 1: but this was ultimately a statement performance. Now, the question

1593
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Speaker 1: is how big of a statement, because you did have

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Speaker 1: longtime boxingscribes like Dan Rayfield just rightfully railing against this

1595
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Speaker 1: fight all week, which could take away from the idea

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01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: that this was bit some big announcement at one fifty four. However,

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Speaker 1: you look at the opponents and the matchmaking here, though

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01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: it was a big announcement because the fight to make,

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Speaker 1: even though neither have a world title at one fifty

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Speaker 1: four is Jeron Boots MS against unbeaten Virgil Ortiz Junior

1601
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: or Cheese is gonna have to get through the always

1602
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: tough ericson Lubin in November. But this is shaping up

1603
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: to be a fight that boxing fans are going to

1604
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: need to see. First, let's show the finish here on

1605
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: a camera taken from the crowd of what Boots did

1606
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: to Lima Luke six thousand people in the Wells Fargo Center,

1607
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: but that was nine or was nine? That sounded like

1608
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: an infernal once they got cooking in there. How much

1609
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: are you going to separate the fact that this was

1610
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: an unnecessary, meaningless marination. But yet our boy Boots, and

1611
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: we've been watching him a long time. Dude, he looks

1612
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 1: like a million bucks from then.

1613
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 4: Who gives a shit? This fight was ridiculous. This was

1614
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 4: a waste of everybody's time. And the reason why you

1615
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 4: know that is like, first of all, this was I

1616
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 4: know there were some Jabbronis who were trying to talk

1617
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 4: to themselves into like, no, this guy can actually box.

1618
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 2: No, the fuck he can't.

1619
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 4: First of all, not certainly, not on any level that

1620
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 4: mattered for Saturday. We knew that going in this was

1621
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Speaker 4: a fight that never needed to happen. He didn't need

1622
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 4: to tune up to go to fifty four, not one

1623
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 4: like this. We're now thirty five years into his career

1624
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Speaker 4: and his best winzard Chukazan and Staniosis, which are fine

1625
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Speaker 4: B level fighters. He doesn't have a single A or

1626
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Speaker 4: A minus fucking win on his entire career and BC.

1627
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Speaker 4: Here's how you know this is meaningless. This is the

1628
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 4: shit he was doing when we were working at showtime

1629
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Speaker 4: against better guys than this, by the way, are certainly

1630
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Speaker 4: just as good. We already know he can do this. Okay,

1631
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 4: he didn't do it at one fifty four, It doesn't matter.

1632
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Speaker 4: We knew he could do this kind of thing to

1633
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Speaker 4: this level of opponent. Moving up a weight class is

1634
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Speaker 4: not that revelatory. If the test isn't sufficiently difficult, it

1635
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Speaker 4: doesn't have to be the most difficult one in your

1636
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Speaker 4: first fifty four up, but it had to be better

1637
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Speaker 4: than this. The fact that he blew him out and

1638
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Speaker 4: around is not evidence that, oh my god, Thanos just

1639
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Speaker 4: took over and beat up the Hulk. No, it was

1640
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Speaker 4: evidence of a fight that was an absolute sham that

1641
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Speaker 4: did not need to be made. That you learn nothing

1642
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Speaker 4: in Actually was fucking that they dude the balls on

1643
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Speaker 4: match room to ask for money for that is insane.

1644
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Speaker 4: If the fans in Philadelphia BC were happy because you

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Speaker 4: know Jiron Ennis, you know, the lion Ate, the Gazelle, great,

1646
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Speaker 4: I understand that I don't begrudge them that, And I'm

1647
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Speaker 4: not saying BC that Juran doesn't have elitability. I was

1648
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Speaker 4: once a big believer and I'm still willing to be

1649
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Speaker 4: again dot dot dot once he starts fighting people of

1650
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Speaker 4: enough threat or challenge, which he's still thirty five fights

1651
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Speaker 4: in not doing.

1652
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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty eight years old. Hearn talked a big game afterwards,

1653
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: calling him the future pound for pound king and saying

1654
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Speaker 1: that this is what happens when you get out of

1655
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Speaker 1: a weight class that you're you know, cutting down so

1656
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: aggressively that they he estimated that Boots was only seventy

1657
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, sixty or seventy percent of what he can do.

1658
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: The problem is, like you mentioned, we had that completely

1659
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: unnecessary rematch at Walter White against Karen Chukinsen just to

1660
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: just for Boots to hold on to the titles in

1661
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: a mandatory, which showed the ridiculousness of current boxing. But

1662
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: so did this fight to really marinate this so unnecessarily,

1663
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Speaker 1: I'm happy for Boots. He looked great by the way.

1664
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: Hearn said, they're willing to match him with anybody from

1665
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Speaker 1: one fifty four to one sixty eight Luke, which is bold.

1666
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: But here's Eddie Hearn talking about the future for jeronas

1667
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Speaker 1: spread out.

1668
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Speaker 9: Promotionally, you have to pay the money and you have

1669
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Speaker 9: to hope that people have ambition to take on the

1670
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 9: best and create a legacy and fight other champions and

1671
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 9: fight the best in the game. We're in a really

1672
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 9: good spot right now where we had the biggest TV

1673
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 9: contract in American boxing in the real boxing world, and

1674
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 9: for us, we need to work with other promoters to

1675
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 9: make sure that we can make those fights. But after admit,

1676
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 9: we need the fighters to have the ambition to try

1677
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 9: and be the best, and I can't. I just hope

1678
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 9: they're full of that ambition. I hope they want to

1679
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 9: chase legacy, but we do have to pay them a

1680
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 9: lot of money, and we realize that with stanionis because

1681
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 9: we were under pressure to deliver the Stanionis fight and

1682
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 9: he was the best world to wait in the world

1683
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 9: outside of the Boots. We paid up, we got the fight,

1684
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 9: he destroyed him.

1685
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: We've got to do the same at once with people.

1686
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 10: And just one one final up question for you as Boots.

1687
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 10: This question a few weeks ago. You know, when we

1688
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 10: talk about that has me mention of if he's going

1689
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 10: to defend he wants to defend the Puerto Rico. He's

1690
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 10: been to Porto rican before. Would you entertain that? Would

1691
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 10: you take Boots to Poterricos? But I think he means

1692
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 10: more of a homecoming fight.

1693
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Speaker 9: Sure listen xanders Aias against Boots Puerto Rico weekend, Madison

1694
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 9: Square Garden have some of that. All of Philly will

1695
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 9: come up to MSG for that. Fighters. Ias is a

1696
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 9: great young fighter. I believe Zaias has ambition to test

1697
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 9: himself with the best.

1698
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: I would say, what's the biggest now? Boots called out

1699
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: all the champions afterwards at fifty four, which is Xanders Aias,

1700
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 1: Sebastian Fundor and bakram Mertizaldi of Unfortunately, Luke, this fight,

1701
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: even being booked against Lima, is sort of another like boxing,

1702
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: can't get out of their own way in the second

1703
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: half of this year, and it sucks. And to see

1704
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: Fondora pull out of that October twenty fifth pay per

1705
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: view against Keith Thurman with a hand injury only adds

1706
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: to that suckage. And then we did see Hearn's team,

1707
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: by the way, say publicly that they reached out to

1708
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: Keith Thurman and he didn't want anything to do with Boots.

1709
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true, but that's not great,

1710
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: not great stuff. But if we get look Orchees versus Lubin,

1711
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: that's a very good fight that we need. If it

1712
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: leads to Ortees versus Boots, then this is a fight

1713
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: worth setting up, a setting up plans for, and watching

1714
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: comfortably and enjoying because these are two of the best

1715
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 1: in this game, two unbeatens before they even reached the

1716
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: title level of fifty four. I'm all for it, but

1717
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: enough of this marination. Come on, people, all right.

1718
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 4: This was ridiculous and I can't believe anyone's saying anything

1719
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 4: other than that, Yeah, Jerron's great, he's really great, but

1720
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 4: he's got a I mean, this is this We're nearly

1721
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 4: forty fights in and you haven't fought one a level guy.

1722
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, all right, there's a couple other combat

1723
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: sports one hitters that we can we can smoke through here, Bill,

1724
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: how about Luke? Speaking of Big Big John McCarthy, how

1725
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: about this. He announced that he has stepped down from

1726
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: the Weighing In podcast with Josh Thompson and that now

1727
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,480
Speaker 1: that his body is healed, he will be back to refereeing.

1728
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: He already made his return on more of the regional

1729
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: level last weekend and put out a post on social

1730
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: media talking about just how good it felt to be

1731
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: back doing what he loved. It was the sort of

1732
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: physical setbacks that originally took him out of that job.

1733
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: This is a welcome development for the officiating world. Nobody's

1734
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: been a part of more big fights literally going back

1735
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 1: to UFC two than Big John McCarthy. Luke, do you

1736
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: think we'll see him on the highest level from PFL

1737
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: the UFC once he gets back on a regular basis.

1738
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: I hope.

1739
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 4: It's not like I've agreed with every call that any

1740
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 4: any one officiant has made.

1741
01:23:58,920 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: They win something.

1742
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 4: But it's just very hard for me to look at

1743
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 4: what we just had a conversation about the state of refereeing.

1744
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 4: It's very difficult for me to believe looking at the

1745
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 4: state of things that you can add McCarthy to the

1746
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 4: mix and this is not an improvement. Again, that doesn't

1747
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 4: mean he's gonna have all great calls. No referee does.

1748
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 4: But as a general observation, Yeah, refereeing I think could

1749
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 4: certainly use his help.

1750
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Big John. It's fair to say he's

1751
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: the greatest referee of all.

1752
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 4: Time, right and certainly I mean, well, there is some

1753
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 4: debate about that, but I would say maybe the most

1754
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 4: impactful because of the role he played in helping to

1755
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,480
Speaker 4: shape the rules to begin with, and how many seasons

1756
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 4: of MMA he's observed.

1757
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:40,879
Speaker 2: It's given.

1758
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: For a lot of that. I mean, he was almost

1759
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: all of that. It wasn't like you were looking for

1760
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: him to lose his job at any point, That's right, Yeah, Luke.

1761
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk quickly about one championship which we don't talk

1762
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 1: about a lot these days, Marcelo Garcia versus Lachlan Giles.

1763
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,520
Speaker 1: That's been booked for December fifth of this year in Bangkok.

1764
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: The act will be part of One Fight Night thirty

1765
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: eight at Lumpeni Stadium and we'll be contested at one

1766
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds. Why should we care?

1767
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think it's Loompinie Stadium. Yeah,

1768
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 4: the two the two major stadiums in muy Thai are

1769
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 4: Roja Dominan and Loompini, which are the two?

1770
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 2: Everybody, Well, you didn't know that?

1771
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I haven't tried to know that. No,

1772
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't made it a priority.

1773
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1774
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know much about kickboxing but muay Thai,

1775
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 4: but I do know that Raja dominant and Lumpini. Anyway, Dude,

1776
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 4: Marcello Garcia, if not the greatest no gie grappler of

1777
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: all time, certainly number two. H Lachland Giles, I mean,

1778
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 4: an absolute master of the half guard and camora and

1779
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 4: you know a million other things. He's, you know, certainly

1780
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 4: one of the very very best. These are two going

1781
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 4: to be close to the same weight class. They're both retired,

1782
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 4: but they're both still you know, viable as fun entities.

1783
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,959
Speaker 2: That one. That's that's do Tom de blasts. That's good matchmaking.

1784
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: It's great matchmaking.

1785
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: We'll be looking for that December fifth in Bangkok. Also

1786
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: from this UFC Heal broadcast, Josh Van's teammate Michael as well.

1787
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: During the post fight interview, seem to matter of fact,

1788
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: Lee leak the Alexandre Pantosa Josh Van title fight taking

1789
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: place on the December sixth final UFC pay per view

1790
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: card of twenty twenty five in Las Vegas. Luke, does

1791
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: he get any talking to from the company.

1792
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 9: For doing that?

1793
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 2: Probably not.

1794
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: All speech is protected, including hate speech.

1795
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a well if listen to

1796
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 4: if you want to post on your Instagram stories about

1797
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 4: how much you love the Nazis, they'll let that rock.

1798
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: That dude is getting a lot of attention.

1799
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: What's that guy's name, I'm aj Cunningham. I think is

1800
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 2: that right? Long Islandluke? That I get the name right?

1801
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,759
Speaker 4: I mean, can you believe that that is not somehow

1802
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 4: do you know how deranged it is that that's not disqualifying?

1803
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: Did he qualify with pre or post math when he

1804
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 1: made those comments?

1805
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know if this

1806
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 4: was pre meth or not. It's really an important qualifier.

1807
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 4: But dude, the state of the sport, I mean, oh

1808
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 4: my god. Anyway, last thing on this is yeah, so

1809
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 4: like that's the thing that we're kind of expecting for

1810
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 4: UFC three twenty three is that you're expecting Pantoja to

1811
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 4: be in there, and that's some either main or how

1812
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 4: would people feel that's a main right?

1813
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: They'd be better, right, they'd be better.

1814
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: They would be they'd feel like they're mailing it in

1815
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: for the tail end of the UFC deal.

1816
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Guys.

1817
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna I'm not saying that

1818
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 4: they will. I'm saying at least have that in mind

1819
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 4: as a possibility.

1820
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: Maybe they're saving the good ones for Paramount Luke.

1821
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: I think all they're definitely doing that. They're definitely doing that.

1822
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 4: But you know, if some of these guys are saying no,

1823
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 4: and if some of these guys are injured, it complicates

1824
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 4: the timeline there too.

1825
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,440
Speaker 2: You know they need a lot of volunteers.

1826
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly does. Former heavyweight champion of boxing Deontay Wilder

1827
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: says he's coming back in January and has a quote

1828
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: about it, quote, I've signed the contract already. I can't

1829
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: give no details at this point, but it's definitely live.

1830
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. I got a big year next year.

1831
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. All I can say is

1832
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: two time, let's go Any guesses on who it will be,

1833
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: or who it should be, or who you want it

1834
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: to be.

1835
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: I want it to be. Dude. He already has the statue,

1836
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: he already kissed it, He already made a bazillion dollars

1837
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 2: to fight Dominique Brezil, Like, just go enjoy life? Why

1838
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: are you doing this? I don't Is he still with

1839
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Malik uh.

1840
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Scott's I don't Scott think? Actually I don't know. I

1841
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: don't think Malik Scott was with him when he had

1842
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: that comeback fight in June. But I could be wrong.

1843
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: I could be wrong.

1844
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 4: Anyway, Here's what I want. I want for him retirement

1845
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 4: and this bums me out. I'm just hoping he lets

1846
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 4: me down easy. You know what I'm saying.

1847
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: I mean it could be Francis and Ghano. Would you

1848
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: hate that?

1849
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 4: U fire up the chainsaw? I guess let's fucking do it?

1850
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I am. I mean I'm a degenerate.

1851
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 4: I guess I am. You know I shouldn't be, but

1852
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 4: I guess I am.

1853
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Uh even sadder news to close here. Luke is a

1854
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: former two division UFC champion BJ Penn, continuing his unfortunate

1855
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: mental downfall here This comes from Perry Punch News developing.

1856
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: A judge has ordered Bjpenn to undergo a mental health

1857
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: exam to determine if he is mentally fit and penally

1858
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: responsible for several criminal charges against him, including alleged abuse

1859
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: of a family member, violating a temporary restraining order, and

1860
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: refusing to comply with a police officer. If found not

1861
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: fit to proceed, Ben Penn could be released to the

1862
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: custody of Hawaii and placed in a treatment facility. He

1863
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: is due back in court on January ninth, and those

1864
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: updates come from Hawaii News. Now, Luke, everything about this

1865
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: is super sad. It does not appear I'm no expert

1866
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: like he is mentally sound in that this has been

1867
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: a big part of the downfall for him as a

1868
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: civilian in recent years, and all the posts on social

1869
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: media and all the accusations of his family members being

1870
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: killed and replaced with impostors. I don't know where you

1871
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: go from here. I really don't do.

1872
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 4: Everyone. I'm not saying they should look at this news

1873
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, this is great news, I feel

1874
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 4: so great about it. That's not what the kind of

1875
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 4: that's not what this news does. But let me tell

1876
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 4: you something. There's a lot of people with mental illness

1877
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 4: who don't have people who care about them pushing for

1878
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 4: them to get the kind of services or evaluations that

1879
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,600
Speaker 4: are necessary to protect them from themselves. And BJ is

1880
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 4: and it's not great if he ends up in the

1881
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 4: custody of you know, various entities, state or otherwise that

1882
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 4: have to monitor his mental health. And to your point, BC,

1883
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 4: I'm also not an expert in mental health, but I

1884
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 4: don't know, like it doesn't take a genius to look

1885
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 4: at this and say this is clearly in need of

1886
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,520
Speaker 4: proper medical evaluation. That so a determination can be made.

1887
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 4: And I tend to think that there will be one

1888
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 4: that's made that that requires some level of oversight. Let's say,

1889
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 4: and DC, I'm gonna say it again, there are so

1890
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 4: many people who don't have someone advocate for them, who's

1891
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 4: who don't have brothers, sisters, parents with money, legal resources,

1892
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 4: the ability to lean on the state to force these

1893
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 4: kinds of issues. They don't have these kinds of things,

1894
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 4: and they fall through the cracks. At least BJ has

1895
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 4: this going for him at this stage of what is

1896
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 4: obviously an incredibly tragic and terrible scenario.

1897
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this is a wake up call to matchmakers,

1898
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: and they're in the UFC promotion too, because you know,

1899
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: when BJ was on that eight fight losing skid that

1900
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: was only equaled by Tony Ferguson's a few years later,

1901
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 1: no one thought he was going to create some type

1902
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: of comeback, and even if he got a win, it

1903
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 1: would only lead to a larger step up and potentially

1904
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 1: more damage. I really feel like even with great legends,

1905
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: once we hit a certain point where it's over, just

1906
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: end it, just end the career. And I don't know

1907
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: what that means for them financially afterwards, but you know

1908
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: how much of this was deeper activated by being in

1909
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: fights he shouldn't have been and taking finished losses. You know,

1910
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: I have the same fear for Tony Ferguson's boxing career,

1911
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: even though he just scored sort of a triumphant victory

1912
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: right there. Only so much the human you know, mind

1913
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: and body can take care. Same thing with the wild.

1914
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: They're to be fair, Luke, you know it's not as

1915
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: we're not as advanced here in the dangerous realm, but

1916
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of bad endings in combat sports.

1917
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: I wish there was another way that these great athletes

1918
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,759
Speaker 1: could make money. I wish those same UFC sweetheart deals

1919
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Speaker 1: that like Matt Hughes used to get in Forest Griffin

1920
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: and Stepan Bonder that went away with the with the

1921
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: sale in twenty sixteen. I wish we could bring those

1922
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: back in a lot of ways. You know.

1923
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the UFC did have a deal.

1924
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 4: I don't know what the state of it is where

1925
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 4: they had a Bjpenn branded UFC gym in Hawaii. There

1926
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 4: might even been like a few of them that were

1927
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 4: Bjpenn branded. Obviously, that would make a bunch of sense

1928
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Speaker 4: to partner with a local legend in that way. Sure,

1929
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Speaker 4: he comes from wealth, BJ, This is what I mean.

1930
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 4: BJ's family comes from wealth, So, like you know, it's

1931
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Speaker 4: not in his case a question of does are there

1932
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Speaker 4: enough resources to help that? The question is can they

1933
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Speaker 4: be applied effectively in a scenario where a person is

1934
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 4: having a mental episode or it's potentially even now too

1935
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 4: far gone. These are separate questions, but to your point,

1936
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 4: more broadly, I think everyone should take a look in

1937
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 4: the mirror, Like, dude, there is an expiration date on

1938
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 4: this shit. And if you're Vicente Luke, I'm not telling

1939
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 4: you like, if you keep competing, oh, you're gonna end

1940
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 4: up just like this or just like that. We don't

1941
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: know that, but we know that there are enough risk

1942
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 4: factors where you don't even want to get close to

1943
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 4: that conversation. And if you're and bja one at the

1944
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 4: very highest level, you know what I mean, you can

1945
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 4: at least say, what did he achieve a lot?

1946
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Speaker 2: He achieved a lot?

1947
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're not doing that kind of a thing,

1948
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 4: why are you sacrificing your health?

1949
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: So willingly? Don't do that?

1950
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, one day you're going to be walking down at

1951
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Dark Alley and Mark Sanchez is going to be there.

1952
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's not it's not cool, it's not fair. Hey,

1953
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Speaker 1: this podcast is sponsored Sorry, excuse me. This podcast is

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1984
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Speaker 1: topics on this Monday. But now every Sunday night. You

1985
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: know what we do. We give you the opportunity to

1986
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: be heard at Morning Combat on X and the IG.

1987
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: The questions they're open, fill them up. Here we go.

1988
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 1: This one's called DMS from Donks. It's disturbing to say

1989
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 1: the least, to hear that noise. Here's Kevin Underscore Mitchell

1990
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: Underscore seventy nine. Why doesn't the UFC invest in a

1991
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 1: physical hall of fame that stands alone to the public.

1992
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Currently it resides on the staircase of the first and

1993
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 1: second floors of the Vegas Performance Institute. I think the

1994
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: fans deserve a museum at this point to honor the sport,

1995
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 1: since it's now a global entity and has been for

1996
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: some time. Luke, I think you can say the same

1997
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 1: thing about the WWE Hall of Fame. And even though

1998
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 1: the International Boxing Hall of Fame, which you can visit

1999
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 1: right off the highway in Cannestota, New York, is not

2000
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 1: overly impressive. It's a very small building. It's got very

2001
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 1: cool stuff in it, but you'll get through that cool

2002
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: stuff in about twenty five minutes. I feel like with

2003
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: the growing empire of the Performance Institute, the UFC headquarters,

2004
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: the expanded Apex, if they just put a little thing

2005
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: together that they can keep open during daytime hours and

2006
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: charge fight fans five bucks to come in and see history,

2007
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Speaker 1: I think that's a win win, right.

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Speaker 4: I believe that this is a no brainer. You could

2009
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 4: even put it next to the Apex and have its

2010
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 4: own little thing where. For example, I went on a

2011
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 4: family vacation BC We went to Lisbon, Portugal, and we

2012
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 4: stayed right next to the Benfica stadium and we just,

2013
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 4: for like five year old we took a tour of

2014
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 4: the stadium and all the rich history of that club

2015
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 4: and you know, where everything, who the best players were,

2016
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 4: the big years, and let they let you sit in

2017
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 4: like the press area and it's just so much fun.

2018
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 4: And I'm not you know, I don't know anything about

2019
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 4: Benfica all that much. I just wanted to see some

2020
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 4: European football history, That's all it was. And it was

2021
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 4: five year oh and it was great. It was one

2022
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 4: of the it was a great day. They can't have

2023
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 4: a physical hall where yeah, I mean, you know, how

2024
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 4: big could it be? It's okay, but there's some debate

2025
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 4: about that. But they've got the money, they've got the land.

2026
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 4: They just have to have the willingness and a museum

2027
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 4: curator type of level talent to set it all up.

2028
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Speaker 4: But I think that would make a lot of sense,

2029
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 4: to be honest with.

2030
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, I really do. Let's continue it on. Here's

2031
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: from it's not cage fighting. But the only thing is,

2032
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: though it is cage fighting. Which location would you like

2033
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 1: the UFC to go back to which they haven't visited

2034
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: for a while. We're talking five years or more, so, Luke,

2035
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: are you itching for UFC Monkton to return? No, all right,

2036
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Piquets would have been there though.

2037
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: Right probably?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I'm interested. I mean, I don't I'm not

2039
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 4: sure what. I'm not sure what I mean? I mean, dude,

2040
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 4: you know what I want them to do. I want

2041
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 4: them to go to Hawaii. That's where I do too. Yeah,

2042
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 4: that's that's kind of where my head is at these days.

2043
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 1: What about d C, what is their history there outside

2044
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: of that Virginia? I mean, that's true, right there? Would

2045
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: you like to see an annual d C stop or

2046
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: is it the fact that you're embarrassed about how rude

2047
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: the service providers are in terms of like Starbucks cashiers

2048
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 1: in your city.

2049
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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I'm sorry that your armpit fart jokes.

2050
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 4: Uh didn't bring the house down when you were ordering

2051
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,440
Speaker 4: your double caramel macchiato.

2052
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2053
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 4: No, I don't need to see that. I think you

2054
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 4: know they're in New York City once a year.

2055
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 2: That's important.

2056
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 4: You know, they don't need to come to d C

2057
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 4: in that kind of way. Go to places that need you.

2058
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 4: That's that's what MMA should be doing.

2059
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not itchin for them to come to Connecticut.

2060
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 1: It's not really a great spot for a bit.

2061
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Connecticut is a shithole. I mean, let's just

2062
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 2: be honest.

2063
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't go that far. I'd like more Boston,

2064
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: p l E. S Luke, all rights, there's a certain

2065
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: energy there right remember McGregor Siver. Remember are some like

2066
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 1: big fights we've seen there. I'd like to see a

2067
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 1: great New England city like Boston get more. What about

2068
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: you Long Islandluke, I'm sure you're gonna say, like that

2069
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: theater in Huntington where Chris al Jerry is.

2070
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, paramount.

2071
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 2: Let's go.

2072
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I will say like I mean Long Island baby.

2073
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 5: They were at Ubs Arena like three years ago.

2074
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 1: But wasn't that when Gaslom got widemand No.

2075
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 5: That was at Nasau Coliseum in twenty seventeen. I was

2076
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 5: there for that, okay. Now the last one was Brian

2077
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 5: Ortega yah year and it ended in a no contest.

2078
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 2: It was there.

2079
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 5: Fuck, what came to mind? Melbourne, Australia. I think the

2080
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 5: last time they were there is the poster behind me

2081
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 5: is he Whittaker won? So that was twenty nineteen. I mean,

2082
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 5: you gotta go.

2083
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: Back to mil paying too much, that's the problem.

2084
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 5: They are and they go to Sydney occasionally, but never Melbourne.

2085
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: So I'd like you and your dad to go to

2086
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: a live fight down under. I mean, I'm down with

2087
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: Dennis Scrototov.

2088
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 5: We're down, dude, We'll do it all right, all right.

2089
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: The next one comes from Michael is Michael, Oh, Mike,

2090
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Michael Simon XO. Thank you for the kisses and hugs there. Michael,

2091
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about one of my current fighters,

2092
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: Sean Brady, essentially wasting his prime. He's brilliant yet he's

2093
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: fought once a year since twenty two and is on

2094
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 1: pace to fight only once this year. I know people

2095
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: are ducking him, but sometimes you have to fight down

2096
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: in the rankings to stay relevant. Well, the problem is

2097
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: he's so damn close to either a title fight or

2098
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: a number one contender fight that you don't want to

2099
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 1: waste that, do you.

2100
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: No.

2101
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 4: I mean it's a tough situation, because, yeah, I agree,

2102
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,679
Speaker 4: fighting once a year if you're unless you're Gary Russell

2103
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 4: Junior is very much inadvisable. But at the same time,

2104
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 4: when you're this is the problem, then you get close

2105
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 4: enough and you're like, I can't fuck this up, and

2106
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 4: so you end up making like very careful decisions and

2107
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 4: then that just the whole thing gets jacked up.

2108
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.

2109
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I hope

2110
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 1: Sean Brady gets back out there. I hope we get

2111
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: the top of this division figured out from me and

2112
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: Gary to all these guys. Number four comes from Skuyler

2113
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 1: Underscore Lerwell, Skuyler Lurewell, BC, you're looking good as the

2114
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,799
Speaker 1: prop quiz champ. Thank you. However, you have some serious

2115
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: contenders lined up, including Ben the Bain Davis and a

2116
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 1: Bron Aaron Bronsteader, how do you like your chances to

2117
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: retain your title? So I've yet to see the Ben

2118
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: the Bain episode against Oscar Willis and their rematch of

2119
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 1: their BKFC fight, but I did hear that Ben created

2120
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: a short lived record for most points. I will say

2121
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 1: this though, when I watched Abron put it on Chuck

2122
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 1: Mindenhall and extend that record, I was a little nervous.

2123
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean, lte We've seen great stories of people falling

2124
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,719
Speaker 1: into a title Bisping Michael Bisping at UFC one ninety nine,

2125
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: but then we see what we saw gsp come in

2126
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 1: there and humble that I don't want to get gsp'd

2127
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: by Abron here. So I'm wondering if long out look,

2128
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: can I invoke any champ status shit to like, you know,

2129
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: pick and shoes or how is this gonna work?

2130
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 6: I think I'm going to do another bracket, so I

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Speaker 6: may have been the Bane and a Bron go head

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01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 6: to head, and then obviously there's going to be two

2133
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 6: other matchups on the other side of the bracket, and

2134
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 6: then maybe the winner of the.

2135
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 5: Bracket faces you.

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01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 6: It's it's still working in my head, BC, But uh,

2137
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 6: you do have I mean, if you want to face

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01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 6: someone specifically, we can make it happen.

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01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: No, I want I want to play it fair. But

2140
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: you know, Abron had like no emotion. He was like

2141
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: a killer in that episode.

2142
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 6: He knew everything. He also no hesitation. People, bitch, I

2143
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 6: need a shot clock all the time. Not with a

2144
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:28,959
Speaker 6: bron Man. He knew everything.

2145
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: This is you know, for all the talk about him

2146
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: being a varsity athlete, this is his wheelhouse. This is

2147
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 1: where he is a stud of studs until I accidentally

2148
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: beat him. All right, because if you think I'm going

2149
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: out like that, right, Luke Thomas, what do you think

2150
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I accidentally beat three very very intelligent gentlemen in this series.

2151
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not an intelligence test. It's a trivia

2152
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 4: knowledge test. You can just prep for that, all right,

2153
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 4: all right, seriously, you can just prep for something like that,

2154
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 4: you know, if it was actually an AQ test, and

2155
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 4: you can't really prep for when you prep a little bit,

2156
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 4: but for for a but for a rote memorization test,

2157
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,640
Speaker 4: that's that's just practice.

2158
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 1: You know what I'm going to bring out basketball VC,

2159
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do, right, Yeah, all right, I'm

2160
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: gonna start, you know, making prank calls to Bronstetter's house

2161
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 1: to night before to get in his head. How about that?

2162
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 5: All right?

2163
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 2: Pull the fire alarm at the hotel.

2164
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: That's what soccer there, all right? No, I love Abron,

2165
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: but shout out to him. I'm coming for you if

2166
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: you end up there, I'm coming for you, a Bron,

2167
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. Our final one comes

2168
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: from Triple A ten seventeen. So if there was a

2169
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: y'all must have forgot mount rushmore of fighters who just

2170
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: continue to never go away when we write them off.

2171
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Who is on it? This man likes OLIVERA. Magni Arlovski

2172
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 1: and he needs help with the fourth I mean Katur.

2173
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,520
Speaker 2: Katur was written off multiple times.

2174
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 1: Including on this show for that twelve o'clock guest appearance.

2175
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he might be here today. We never know.

2176
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 4: The ghost of Randy Cooter just floats in the ether.

2177
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 4: You never know when he's going to show up. But

2178
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 4: in all seriousness, BC, dude, I remember I this is

2179
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 4: you know again, I'm an old piece of shit. But

2180
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 4: like I distinctly recall the media cycle before he returned

2181
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 4: out of it because he got sent to oblivion. Bye Bye, bye,

2182
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 4: Chuck for the second time, he hangs it up. He's

2183
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 4: I'm fucking done. And then Tim Sylvia is on this

2184
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 4: role where you know, Tim Sylvia looks like a newborn giraffe,

2185
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,679
Speaker 4: but he's six nine. He's a fucking tough guy to fight.

2186
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: Katoria. Is you know, training with Eric Peley. What's his face?

2187
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 2: No Pele.

2188
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 5: Right?

2189
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 4: No Eric play Yeah, the big heavyweight. He's training with

2190
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 4: a bunch of these dudes over in his gym, and

2191
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 4: you're like, dude, he is gonna.

2192
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 2: Get fucking wiped out.

2193
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 4: And then he goes and then the whole media cycle

2194
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 4: was about all this ship and then he goes in

2195
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 4: there and just bodies Tim Sylvia. I'm telling you that

2196
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 4: is the king of comebacks after being written off.

2197
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 1: That is very true right there. He mentioned some good names.

2198
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta say, Jim Miller. I mean, have

2199
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 1: we ever written off Jim Miller?

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01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 4: Or is he just is it just he's here because

2201
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 4: he just k Yeah, I don't think we wrote him

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01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 4: off per se, but he's just kind of lingered with relevancy. Orlovski,

2203
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 4: you know, I definitely or Lovsky was written off, Yes,

2204
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 4: for sure.

2205
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: Any along that journey, no doubt about that. All right,

2206
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 1: good stuff there. Those are dms from Donks and a

2207
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: reminder you can reach the program by emailing Morning Coombat

2208
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com for Friday's dead wrongs and fan

2209
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,879
Speaker 1: subs and to probably possibly show Mikey your piece. But uh,

2210
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: I did want to say publicly, you know, longtime friend

2211
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 1: of the program, backbone of the program, former producer of

2212
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: the program, the great Mikey Morms, he just got engaged

2213
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: to his lovely fiance Donna while in Italy. So much

2214
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: love from the MK community to one of the great ones.

2215
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 1: There a a cannabis officionado to say the very least.

2216
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably high right now, I hope.

2217
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: So I hope he's eating spaghetti right now.

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01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 2: Somebody, by the way, I have a bit of an

2219
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 2: update on that.

2220
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: On Mikey's spaghetti, and take care well on weed.

2221
01:45:58,040 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 4: So like you have to have a car, you have

2222
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 4: to have like a a medical card in DC, and

2223
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 4: mine expired and I was like, oh, I have to

2224
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 4: go back to like you know, so.

2225
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,560
Speaker 2: I go into the goddamn DMV. I don't want to

2226
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 2: do this again, you know.

2227
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 4: But then they legalized it in Maryland, and all you

2228
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 4: need is just a government issued ID. So I was like, well,

2229
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 4: if I don't mind, let's get behind the wheel of

2230
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 4: the car.

2231
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 2: Here, let's drive. Dude.

2232
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 4: Maryland is like ribing it's a mile from here. I

2233
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 4: just drive right over the line and then Oxton Hill. Uh,

2234
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 4: that's a little bit further away, but you know, to

2235
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,719
Speaker 4: Hyattsville or surround.

2236
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hyattsville, hyah, yeah exactly.

2237
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 2: I was like, this is great. I don't have to

2238
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 2: get my license renewed. Thank god.

2239
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: All right, our final segment here on the Monday is

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01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: the one you've been waiting for, the one where I

2241
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: scour the globe for the highs and lows, the good,

2242
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly, in the in between, in the

2243
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: world of combat sports and beyond. Look, somebody posted on

2244
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,799
Speaker 1: mk Reddit that they're sick of this segment. It should

2245
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 1: be retired and killed your thoughts.

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01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't agree, but I do think you need a

2247
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 4: little bit of a cattle prod in the rear end,

2248
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 4: you know, get the paddles out here a little.

2249
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, just go full nine to eleven BC. Why do

2250
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: you hold back anymore? All right, that's great. This one's

2251
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: called have you seen this shit all right now, Luke,

2252
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I can't show you the footage of her walking to

2253
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: the prep point Saturday night. This is Russian Rocket read

2254
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: Ronda Arena alex Eva and doing Johnny Walker type twerking.

2255
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: But I got a few videos here on why Russian

2256
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: Ronda is my new favorite crazy person in Mma. Here

2257
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: is her getting ready at the weigh in. I mean, look,

2258
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 1: this is great stuff right here, right, No, what do

2259
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 1: you make of her tats? Can you rate them?

2260
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 2: Very? Tanya? Evenger vibes a little bit here. I mean

2261
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 2: she's spirited.

2262
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: You know, she's very spirited. If you go a little

2263
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 1: bit deeper on her ig, it gets more spirited. Here's

2264
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 1: Russian Ronda dancing in a purple mink coat with some

2265
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 1: very subtle smm vibes coming out of these bodybuilders. I

2266
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing here, Luke, but this is interesting.

2267
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, uh?

2268
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 2: This is deeply uncomfortable?

2269
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Well, I said very soon.

2270
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 2: The thing that could have made that worse is if

2271
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 2: the cake ladies showed up and started eating them.

2272
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the wrizzler came out and she took his

2273
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: head and it was really cake and she started eating it. Yeah,

2274
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 1: those were subtle SMM vibes. Here's full on SNM from

2275
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:34,599
Speaker 1: Russian Ronda.

2276
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 4: Okay, you know, maybe maybe MK read it has a

2277
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 4: point here?

2278
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 2: What the fuck are we? Says? Love me on her chest?

2279
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 1: It does?

2280
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 2: It does? Yes, I don't.

2281
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. Okay, she's kind of like the

2282
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 1: female Slava clause. You gotta see her when she's fighting.

2283
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: You gotta see it Long Island. Look, you were the

2284
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: one that got me onto the Red Rocket Russian RNDA train.

2285
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 2: Say.

2286
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 6: BC joined my watch along once when she was fighting

2287
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 6: and became a huge fan.

2288
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 5: I texted BC.

2289
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 6: During that fight and was like, Yo, Russaurant is fighting

2290
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 6: the street.

2291
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: How did you not tell me on Friday's MK that

2292
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: she was back.

2293
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 6: I we glossed right over it because we were talking

2294
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 6: about her opponent be a mosquito, and we just forgot

2295
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 6: to mention her.

2296
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't know her real name. Unbelievable. All right,

2297
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: here's your relatable moment of the week, Luke.

2298
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 4: I could neither confirm nor deny the details, although I

2299
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 4: work from home, so that's more like lunch break than

2300
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 4: it would be.

2301
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 5: Right.

2302
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Luke, what are you gonna do? The

2303
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,599
Speaker 2: first hour, mks off. I don't know.

2304
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: I might, I might the vinyls myself. Here's your father

2305
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: of the week, Luke. I think we call this man

2306
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: cowboy Cromarty.

2307
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 6: How many children do you have?

2308
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 8: Twenty three?

2309
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 2: Tw real?

2310
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if we saw anything there, did we?

2311
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 4: We saw a man who has fathered a lot of

2312
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 4: children with different women.

2313
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, my screen was blank, so I don't know that.

2314
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 4: Oh yes, we saw a gentleman who bragged about having

2315
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 4: twenty two kids with or twenty three kids with twenty

2316
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 4: two baby mothers are a very Yeah, this guy he

2317
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 4: doesn't love condom so big, no condom guy so far.

2318
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I would support that this segment needs to come to

2319
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: an end. But hey, it's regional MMA time, where anything

2320
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 1: can happen. Let's check out this European MMA brawl in Germany.

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01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 4: The fuck and there's a guy with a Palestine flag.

2322
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening.

2323
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: There, gentlemen, we're live on CBS.

2324
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:50,920
Speaker 2: Here's Gus Shotson. Boys, these legs happen? What is this over?

2325
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 2: What is the what is the Oh.

2326
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 4: Jesus, there's still do there's no cage security at all.

2327
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 4: They're just jumping right over the top.

2328
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: This is like Connor versus a Beab all over again. Wow,

2329
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's KSW. I don't know, Luke,

2330
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: that's Polish one, right, that's na yeah this mayhem? All right, hey,

2331
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: let's keep it going on the regional scene, the no

2332
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 1: nonsense Keith Peterson had a lot of nonsense after this

2333
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 1: backflip caught him. Oh he is not he is not happy.

2334
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well yeah, yeah, chill out. He teld him

2335
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: to chill out. Finally, Keith Peterson's you know what, just

2336
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 2: give him more warnings.

2337
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, yeah, no points, take good the king of warnings.

2338
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 2: Hey, don't you do it? Or what? Or don't you

2339
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 2: do it?

2340
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: All right? Look this from twenty twenty four from one championship.

2341
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Watch this losing fighter go off to the ref.

2342
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, get in there, there you go, got the neebea.

2343
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 1: One he tapped, Luke, you see that?

2344
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I'll show it again.

2345
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 4: Hold on, okay, so after the ref intervenes, okay, just

2346
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 4: pay attention to the ref, all right, Now, pay attention

2347
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 4: to the opponent who won. Watch this, Look at him,

2348
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 4: come around, watch us, watch us.

2349
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like mocking his dead you know, hold at this,

2350
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 2: fuck you?

2351
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, did you see Julia Polastri do the the

2352
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: whole Tito Ortez burying bit after she stopped Covid cavitch?

2353
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 1: That was too far?

2354
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 4: Look uh yeah, it's like, no, you got to really

2355
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 4: like hammer them in the first round to do that.

2356
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a deeper look inside the

2357
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers coordinators coaches box. All right, there's a

2358
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: couple of gentlemen there.

2359
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 2: Yep, oh yeah, oh yeah, brother, a.

2360
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,719
Speaker 1: Little little rerack you never heard anybody luke.

2361
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little a little crotchitch, you know.

2362
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time for Mma fighters in the wild. Here's

2363
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 1: a great bousheeto moment, Alex Pereira showing up at a

2364
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Brazilian gym that has his name on the wall and

2365
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 1: just getting mobbed by children.

2366
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 4: You know, I'm glad that I finally reached a point

2367
01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:00,719
Speaker 4: in my life where I find the joy of children amusing. Yes, yes,

2368
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 4: it wasn't always a thing in my life, but now

2369
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 4: it's a big one, and this is just awesome.

2370
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 2: This is just great, It's.

2371
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: Just about fantastic. We saw another anime fighter in the wild,

2372
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor playing barefoot basketball and it went about as

2373
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: well as you would think it would look at that form. Yeah, yeah,

2374
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 1: he took it back.

2375
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 4: We don't have to do that stuff with you, by

2376
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 4: the way, all right.

2377
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 1: We also have Khalil Rounchrie Junior showing up on the

2378
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 1: Jackson podcast talking about how crazy Morob.

2379
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,759
Speaker 5: Is in the gym.

2380
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 11: It's it's really hard to say that he's any different

2381
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 11: in the gym than he is in the cage. Really,

2382
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 11: I promise you this is a one story. At twelve

2383
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 11: o'clock in the afternoon on fight Day, Saturday, October fourth,

2384
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 11: Morob sparred five rounds in the cage live on the

2385
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 11: day of his fight. Because that's just who he is.

2386
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:00,879
Speaker 2: That's unreal.

2387
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 12: Yes, five full live round five full live rounds at

2388
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 12: twelve o'clock, not even half a day before he has

2389
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 12: to be in the arena to put on the biggest

2390
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 12: fight of his career.

2391
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 2: That's just him.

2392
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 11: You cannot make it up. So to be around that,

2393
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,680
Speaker 11: I mean, it's just it's just another experience.

2394
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 2: You know.

2395
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 11: Most guys will sit in the hotel room or try

2396
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,719
Speaker 11: to collect their thoughts or do whatever, you know, maybe

2397
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 11: even get like a bike ride in on the assault

2398
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 11: bike to kind of burn some energy. I've never in

2399
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 11: my life seen somebody spar five full rounds the day

2400
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 11: that they have to fight and go do another five

2401
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 11: full rounds with Cody Sanhey, So like, yeah, it's just

2402
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 11: he's a different look.

2403
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: How do you even explain that?

2404
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how you I don't know.

2405
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: That's just like I don't even know what that is.

2406
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: That's just absolutely without price.

2407
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I've heard of guys having, you know,

2408
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 4: hitting mits for a couple of rounds earlier in the day,

2409
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 4: stuff like that, you know, in the sweat out, but

2410
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 4: not five five minute rounds that. Like, I just don't

2411
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 4: know how it's possible to recover like that. I don't

2412
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 4: know it's possible to stay fresh like that. He's beyond

2413
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 4: description in that regard. He's unlike any fighter in MMA history.

2414
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 1: To close here, Luke, you wanna Champion was in Brazil

2415
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: over the weekend, but recently her and her twin Kashia,

2416
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 1: celebrated their thirty eighth birthday. What do you think, Luke

2417
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: doubl date.

2418
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 2: Is the cake lady going to eat these two?

2419
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: Congratulations to them, Luke, Right, sure, all right? That's great.

2420
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 1: It's time for our Big Brown Report. Luke, You've mentioned

2421
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot lately about how jim wars and sparring wars

2422
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 1: can definitely shorten your career. Did you see what Brendan

2423
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 1: shab told Joe Rogan recently? What was the worst injury

2424
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: you ever went into a fight with.

2425
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 12: I got knocked out three days before I fought No Give,

2426
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 12: Oh my gosh.

2427
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 1: And I got knocked out four days before I fought Rothwell,

2428
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Shane car Wins, Oh my god. That's so.

2429
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 1: That's rough? Right?

2430
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 2: Is that new?

2431
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard it before, but that's rough, dude.

2432
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 2: That well.

2433
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 4: First of all, I can believe that the guys that

2434
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 4: grudge back in the day with Shane Carrwin. Someone asked

2435
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 4: me in my lap chat last week. I forgot to

2436
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 4: say this at the time, but they're like, who's the

2437
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 4: scary Who are some of the scariest punchers in mm

2438
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 4: A history? And you know, Francis and Ghana would be one, dude,

2439
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 4: Fucking Shane carr Win would be another one. A terrifying puncher, yes,

2440
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 4: and shop having to spar that guy all the time,

2441
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. I would not be surprised at what

2442
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 4: he's saying there is absolutely accurate. Those guys were vicious

2443
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 4: back in the day.

2444
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 1: You have to wonder how much that affected his losses

2445
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 1: in those fights.

2446
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 4: Seriously, right, I mean you know he wasn't And also,

2447
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 4: like Nogara was not a bullshit puncher himself.

2448
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 2: You know, he like he could do it.

2449
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 4: And yeah, dude, like, how can you win at that

2450
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 4: level if you're getting stars that and why are.

2451
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 2: You sparring that hard?

2452
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2453
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 4: I mean that's the problem to Carwin has Like car dude,

2454
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 4: Carwin had like comical levels of power.

2455
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 2: You know.

2456
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we just heard Morob was sparring five

2457
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: rounds on the day of a fair point.

2458
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair point.

2459
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of Shah, Luke, drive Fast Eat Ass had another

2460
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: truck giveaway. Let's see the result here.

2461
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 2: Okay, what are we doing here?

2462
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 1: Okay?

2463
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 2: Is this a real thing? I need to buy this vehicle?

2464
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm gonna.

2465
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna. I'm gonna take two key to school in

2466
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 2: the I eat Ass vehicle. She'll love that.

2467
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Luke, are you a fan of white rappers?

2468
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 2: Aheso? I suppose all right.

2469
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: What about this guy his pums? This sweating and these

2470
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 1: weak arms are heavy. There's vomited on his sweat already, Mom, Spaghetti,

2471
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of done with that guy. Luke.

2472
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs to be bullied more, which is difficult

2473
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 4: because he's great at jiu jitsu, but his stick sucks.

2474
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 4: Can we just be honest about that. He got his

2475
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,080
Speaker 4: ass kicked in that debate with Craig Jones, and his stick.

2476
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 2: Is fucking lane. He's very good at jujitsu, very good.

2477
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: Look, do you remember your number one undisputed most exciting

2478
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Christmas gift you.

2479
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 4: Got as a child, Probably this when I was like

2480
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 4: seventh grade. This like the first time I got a

2481
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 4: bike that had gears like the you know, on the

2482
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 4: left and right side.

2483
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're like freedom.

2484
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2485
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's look in on these kids, way, I said,

2486
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: Dom whosin rookie card.

2487
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 2: Thanks Sienna, this is gonna be worth a fortune someday.

2488
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm glad we're eating up natural resources so kids could

2489
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 2: have Saddam Hussein rookie cards to play on stupid shows

2490
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 2: like this one.

2491
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 1: All right, hey, time for your poetry of the week.

2492
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 2: Let's listen in Roses, I was finna go to bed.

2493
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: But not tonight. Sweetheart, give me ahead. Not bad, not bad,

2494
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: right there.

2495
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 4: I've never been a big Lee Corso guy, but he

2496
01:58:58,280 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 4: works in limited circumstances.

2497
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: He does, he does, Luke, you know you love gender reveals.

2498
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: Let's rate this one from Dolphins player Jay Leon Phillips

2499
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: and his and his significant other.

2500
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 2: That's gonna fly over the.

2501
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 1: Head one blast off.

2502
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 4: Wow, it's like we're gonna murder like five natural ecosystems,

2503
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,000
Speaker 4: all those trees, all the birds who live there are dead,

2504
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 4: so that you could just announce what sex it was,

2505
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 4: which is just a thing you can normally do.

2506
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 1: It's a boy, it turns out, Luke. Let's go to

2507
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 1: this next one. How do you rate this one? We

2508
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 1: got a balloon.

2509
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 2: She has an interesting build, all.

2510
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 1: Right, looks like it's a girl.

2511
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 4: Luke, you know what, I rethink everything I've ever said

2512
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 4: about gender reveals, and I also need this person's phone number,

2513
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 4: yes to further pursue this line of inquiry.

2514
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,839
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, like regional MMA, anything can happen on local

2515
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 1: TV news. Let's go to South America. Here a nice

2516
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:07,800
Speaker 1: little street report.

2517
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 2: Oh it's just a man's ass.

2518
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Full moon tonight. There you go. All right, let's go

2519
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 1: over to Jana's party. I don't know what this means.

2520
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 4: From the street. Janna's party is way more interesting. Oh

2521
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 4: oh anal, oh yeah.

2522
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 1: You're invited, Luke.

2523
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:29,920
Speaker 5: There you go.

2524
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, this eighth grade football PA announcer would

2525
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: lose his job for this. Tell me if it's justified.

2526
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 2: Let's give my hand job. I'm so sorry. Let's give

2527
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 2: my hand folks. Great job, Well done, ladies. He works

2528
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 2: at that orchid place that Robert Kraft went where we're at.

2529
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 1: Look, you think you've had a bad day. Let's see

2530
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:58,360
Speaker 1: this lady. This day can't get any worse. My car

2531
02:00:58,600 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: is getting told.

2532
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 2: Why can't I support her?

2533
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:13,040
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, this trend of that Selene started with eating

2534
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 1: cakes is getting very much out of control. Let's check

2535
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 1: in on the weird cake lady. Oh god, what time

2536
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 1: is it, Luke? It's cake time?

2537
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, here we go, just eating off the wall, fucking.

2538
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:34,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna eat yep, yep, sure enough, sure enough?

2539
02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 1: Oh god, damn, I mean, whoa dude? PlayStation? All right, cake.

2540
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:44,839
Speaker 2: Lady, we get it. You make cake look like unusual.

2541
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go, eat the fortnite Luke, we could

2542
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 1: be hanging out with her.

2543
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 4: Look at this, you know what, That Fortnite cake looks

2544
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 4: pretty good. Actually, I'm in it, looke.

2545
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 1: This might have set the record for the most amount

2546
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: of people DM ing me, so I finally had to

2547
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 1: play it. Here's more cake love. Okay, okay, that is uh.

2548
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 2: I've seen this.

2549
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's uh. That's something. All right.

2550
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 2: Our final he picks it up and eats a piece.

2551
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, our final weird cake moment. I don't know

2552
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: how to describe it.

2553
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm the songest motherfucker in the world.

2554
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:31,720
Speaker 1: Bitch, all right, maybe it is time for this show

2555
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 1: to come in, this segment to come into it. What

2556
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: we're ending on is like, no, no, I got one

2557
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 1: more for you, Luke. You know when I was a kid,

2558
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 1: they said don't play with matches. They didn't say anything

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Speaker 1: about fireworks though.

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Speaker 2: Hmm stop movie, hold it up.

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Speaker 1: Holding up, hold up? Yeah, what would happen if if

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Speaker 1: you gave two kya battle rocket?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, I have her on. She wouldn't

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Speaker 2: do that. She wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: That's the ship of the week. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it comes back next week. We'll have to wait.

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Speaker 2: It needs to come back.

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Speaker 4: I mean this was Charles Lavera getting knocked out by

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Speaker 4: I need you to give me the gam Rock performance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I need I need some elder abuse.

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Speaker 1: I need a few different things there. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: That would be most of the show until I just

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Speaker 1: tell you once more about our merch situation. Why don't

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Speaker 1: you head on over to Morningcombat Dot Shop get our

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Speaker 1: October exclusives before they go shout out to the great

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Speaker 1: average Joe art on the designs. I think you'd look

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Speaker 1: great in the super Mario wash Dad shirt. How about

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Speaker 1: that Frankin Luke and Donkey La Halloween collab right there?

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Speaker 1: Get it an autographed poster or the T shirt with

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Speaker 1: the color of your choice. Evergreen items available. Buy them

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Speaker 1: for your Abweila while you still have her in your life.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Morningcombat dot Shop. You can like the show,

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Speaker 1: you can follow us, you can do different things with us.

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Speaker 1: There's our YouTube channels. Thank you. Look anything coming up

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Speaker 1: fresh and new on your channel. I saw you had

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Speaker 1: a nice breakdown on OLIVERA.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, that's it. I got I mean, I got

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Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff to do after the show today.

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Speaker 4: Before TOOKI gets back from the Petting Zoo, petting Farm,

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Speaker 4: whatever the fuck is. So I will try to get

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Speaker 4: up a full breakdown on some of the Amalplata series

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Speaker 4: that Olivera went after.

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Speaker 2: So we'll be on the lookout.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff right there. Let's say goodbye to our third

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Speaker 1: member of the team, Long Island, Luke. Will the main

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Speaker 1: card Minute be back up and running this week?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll have a bet breakdown out tomorrow, New pop

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Speaker 6: quiz on Friday, Watch Along Saturday.

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Speaker 5: You guys are on the trail, Come on, well we.

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Speaker 1: Do we make content in this in these parts? All right, Luke,

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Speaker 1: any message of wisdom that you want to share with

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Speaker 1: the viewers. Sawool he's on vacation right now. If you've

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Speaker 1: been following him on Instagram on the it looks like

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Speaker 1: he's on the island somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Life is about the ability to have consistent, simple joys.

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Speaker 4: May you ever find them?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes? And if you're home alone, as Luke Thomas often says,

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Speaker 1: you know, yes, it's easy to find one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know listen porn Hub. Let's be real okay,

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Speaker 2: all right?

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Speaker 1: Uh for both Lukes, it's your boy BC. Thank you

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02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 1: for watching. Take care of Yourselves. Die your hair if

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Speaker 1: it's getting gross, we love you, we'll see you on Friday.

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Speaker 1: There's some fights this weekend or something like that. Peace

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Speaker 1: and we out of here. Thank you,