WEBVTT - Janet Varney on Spirited Away 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.400 Hey Everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush Friday Interview Edition. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.280 The last one, Oh everybody. It makes me so sad. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.199 This will be the last regular weekly Friday Interview a 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.920 dish for Movie Crush. I do already have a guest 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.479 lined up for August, and maybe I'll try and put 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.240 out like one a month or something, but this is 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.720 going to be the last one, and we are going 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.680 to finish like we started with my friend, the great 0:00:55.720 --> 0:01:00.640 Janet Barney. She's wonderful, she's funny, she's kind, and she 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:05.840 is supportive, and she is encouraging, and she's super talented 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.679 and she's just the best. And so Janet agreed to 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.880 come back to kind of book in Movie Crush and 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.560 talk about Spirited Away. We uh, we get into some 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.640 anime talk here. It's all new to me, but it's 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.600 something that Janet knows quite a bit more than I 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:27.200 do about um because she voiced Cora, and uh, any 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.960 fans of Cora know that that's that's Janet's voice there. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.440 So we talked about that a little bit. We talked 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.720 about her new podcast project where she talks anime and 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.280 Cora and among other things. And we talked about Spirited Away, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.800 and it was a great talk with my old friend. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.880 And we also talk a little bit about the show ending. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.240 It's a very better, sweet episode you guys, So I 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.400 hope you enjoy it. So here we go with Janet 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:57.400 Barney on Spirited Away. How are you I? I'm doing 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.640 all right. I'm doing all right. I feel like my 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.240 voice has gotten less shrill when I answer that question, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.559 which is a good sign, you know, like the higher. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.960 I don't know if that's true for you or other people, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.519 you know, but I do feel like, Yeah, the more 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.160 the more people like how are you doing, You're like, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.560 I mean that pretty good. I feel like that's a 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.960 dead a dead give away. Unfortunately, I always I also 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:23.440 use that voice comedically, so maybe it's a little confusing, 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.480 but usually when someone sincerely asked me how I am, 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.240 if i'm if I'm up in that register, I'm hiding 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.440 a lot. There's a lot of deep pain that has 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.400 pushed it's it's put the pain has pushed so high 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.880 up in my body that my vocal cords have been condensed, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.600 just a tiny whistle of a noise. Yeah, how about you, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.480 I'm oh ship, we are in trouble. This is going 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.840 to be a rough ride. Uh, you look great. I 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.840 like your pink hair. Thank you, I um good. Thanks. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.680 I really like it. And I feel like people are 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.280 nicer to me when I have pink hair. And I 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.080 don't feel like people are not nice to me. In general, 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.720 they are all people are nice. But there's something about 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.880 my experience of having pink hair is that when people 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:15.280 see you from Afar, they've already decided that you're fun, right, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.560 maybe that you have a little bit of a like 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.760 it's a little punk rock. But it's like also when 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.720 you see what I wear, it's like I'm wearing a 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.920 child's T shirt basically. So it's not like I'm like, 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:27.640 I don't have like a you know what I mean. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.600 I don't have like I wish I had a sleeve. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.400 I would be so cool if I had a tattoo sleeve. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.919 But so when you put all those things together, I 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:38.000 feel like initial, just any initial meeting with people, I 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.760 feel that the niceness and familiarity level is it has 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.440 is vastly improved from what I just have, like blond 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:49.000 hair or whatever. I only wish now that you had 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.240 duped to me with fake tattoo sleeves cool because I 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.160 would be and you were just like cool about it 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.040 or whatever, because I I would swear to God, I 0:03:58.040 --> 0:03:59.680 would sit here and the first thing that I would 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.840 think is have I ever seen Janet's arms? I feel 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.960 like I've seen her arms before? Why that would be? 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.400 I mean, there's a there's a I really understand the 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:17.599 level of like when you start realizing that you're getting 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.599 so old that you don't really want to maintain yourself 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.320 in a certain way for acting jobs like that is 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.000 you know, there's there really starts to be the sense 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.080 of like I just you know, I just don't care. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.000 I like I don't care and they'll have to work 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.360 around it or whatever. Um. And there's something very liberating 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.800 about that. But it's also like, or is that just 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.760 you're you're accepting that you're going to go into your 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.919 retirement from that business because you know, I don't know 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.280 that all of a sudden people are going to turn 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.360 around be like you know what, I love your sleeve. Yeah, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.640 we're gonna start giving you sleeve roles. I just turned 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.240 fifty a couple of months ago, Janet, so I know 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.600 that's a big one. Every birthday, I said, every birthday. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.719 Day of I don't let let the record show. I 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:10.239 said it day of you did. I was just recording 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.360 with John Hodgman, actually literally eighty seconds before you jumped on, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.919 and he said, uh, he was talking about you with 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:22.320 someone else, about something like a role, and he said, well, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.400 why not, Janet? And then he said he realized that's 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:30.480 a great sitcom starring you, called why not Janet? And 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.000 he said it's up to you, now, me to go 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.600 pitch this to you, come up with a premise, and 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.440 then that's the show. It feels like I wish that 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.560 One Division hadn't all due respect to one Division, which 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.479 I wasn't maybe not a huge fan of, but but 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.200 they worked real hard on it, and there was a 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.640 lot about it that I appreciated. Um, but that had 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:56.560 they not just recently revisited the sort of old timey sitcom, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.160 I would say, why not Janet? Definitely seems like it 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.560 was you out competing And I use that term loosely 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.120 because no one had ever heard of it. But it 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.960 was competing against Mary Tyler Moore, you know, but no 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.800 one was watching it because Mary Tyler War was a 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:14.320 great show. I guess the premise would be someone like 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.680 the character Janet, would be someone who was a jack 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.600 of all trades and kind of like pretty good at everything. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.560 So anytime something comes up, they go, why not Janet? 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:33.200 Sometimes insulted? Wait, I don't have to think about this 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.880 that hard. I fully know what it's insulting. It's a 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.560 TV show, it's fiction. This is all well and good. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.599 I need to go because I gotta call Hodgman and 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.320 find out if I have a chance or whatever this 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.000 thing is. I gotta get and if a sleeve is 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.000 going to be a problem because I have a lot 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.280 of work. I gotta get downe in my arm with 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.680 so in your mind, the rewrite is the show is 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:56.080 called of course it's Janet. Yeah, where it's got to 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:03.440 be Janet? Yeah, gotta be imperially Janet. PERI that sounds 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.680 like a little indie movie. Here's the thing, why not Janet? Sure, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.159 that's fine, maybe that's season one, But how do you 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.960 keep refresh? Throw a comma in there? Why not Janet? 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.320 And that's what the next season is about her taking 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.600 chances that she wouldn't ordinarily take, living a little, living 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.480 a little larger, you know what I mean, take a chance, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:26.720 why not Janet? And then it could just be why 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:33.080 question mark and then not Janet exclamation. I don't even 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.240 know what that means. I'm just going to move the 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:41.160 comma again and say why not Janet? But then that 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.360 doesn't really that's that's about that. That years was better. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.200 I mean it was terrible, but it was still better 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:51.160 than why comma not Janet? Janet? That I think this 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.040 is all about beating the dead horse anyway, and we've 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.360 done that. What is that background you've got there? Is 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.640 that real? Or is that? No? This is ah, this 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.920 is just a a tapestry. I mean, yes, I realized 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.600 that you're saying are You're not saying are you in 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.400 the mountains? Are you in the mountains? I wondered if 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.520 it was a screen. It's not a blue screen, it is. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.640 That's nice. Yeah, I got a bunch of these Society six. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.280 It's just a place where you can get various and 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:22.720 sundry goods that are being produced. As you know, pillows, artworks, 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.960 floor mats, and tapestry is among the options. Do a 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:33.400 little landscape photography filter and I now have a curtain 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.440 next to the One of these is hung next to 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.480 our bed that's like a desert, you know, Sonoran dessert 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.880 looks like my where I'm from, Tucson, Um, you know, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.600 storm clouds, arrows, very pleasant. It turned out to be 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.480 a real like everything I've done, I think during the pandemic, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.640 and also every dream I've had during the pandemic has 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:58.200 been like transparently like textbook embarrassingly a two B do 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.840 you know what I mean? Like, oh, how to dream? 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:01.800 The I was telling my therapist I had a dream 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:08.080 about I think I'm having some like you know, like reintegration, anxiety, reopening, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.560 all that. And and then on a separate subject later 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.720 in therapy, I was complaining about a disturbing dream I 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.880 had had and as I was saying and then all 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.640 of a sudden, I was in like it was almost 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.160 like a fabric womb, and I was like trying to 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.120 get out of the whole. She was like, oh, gee, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.839 I wonder I want very direct short line we could 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.120 draw to another part of the conversation. We found I 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.320 was like, God, damn it. Everything I do is like 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.680 just teach it in the pre count Yeah whatever. Yeah, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:42.880 it's so that's having having like fabric tapestries that represent 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:48.480 places I'm not traveling during the pandemic. It's just so like, yeah, okay, sure, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.319 super creative, Dan a great job. Those are kind of 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.280 fun though. I've had those dreams. I had one when 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.400 I moved to New Jersey from college. And I moved 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:01.520 because my roommate in college, his parents were these, you know, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.640 I had, like corporate CEO types that had this big 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.000 house in New Jersey and they were getting transferred to Australia, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:08.760 and they said, why don't you come up here and 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.840 live for a few years rent free, And so I 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.080 followed him up there. But there was also, uh, I 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.439 hate to say this, it was a girl I was 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.840 trying to get away from in college that was It 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.240 wasn't like stalker territory, but it was just it's gotten 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.559 a little weird. And so I was like, perfect time 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.520 to move to New Jersey. So I moved to New 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.280 Jersey and literally the maybe the first night or two 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.679 that I was there, I had this dream that there 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.720 was a bear that like came out of the woods 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.280 and in a dress and was and beat down the 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.520 door of the house and was and was chasing me 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.120 around the house to kill me. And I woke up 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:47.920 and I was like, I wonder who the bear was. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.400 That's amazing and it does not help that her name 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:59.920 was Stephanie Grizzle, right, she did it so easy. It's 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.920 uh so, I want to talk a little bit about 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.280 the new project that you've been working on because it 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.800 kind of takes us into the movie that we'll discuss. Sure, uh, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.160 I want to hear all about it. Well, So it 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.679 is a I always feel like hesitant to say it's 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:22.080 a rewatch podcast because that's kind of not really how 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.240 I pitched it to Nickelodeon, But certainly that is something 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.760 that Dante Bosco and I are doing together, which is, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.680 you know, we're not It's not like a watch along 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.000 where you know you have to do you have to 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.160 synchronize it and listen, which I guess there are some 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.520 that do that, but you know, it's it's you know, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.319 we talk about everything that's happening in each episode of 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.240 Avatar the Last Airbender to start. But Nickelodeon's intention is 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.320 for us to do that with you know, all three 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.600 seasons of Avatar and then all four seasons of Cora 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.040 and then sort of if if we can and if 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.800 it's doing well enough, like to just sort of always 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.640 be doing this because there are all these you know, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:01.600 Avatar books and comics and um at Our studios which 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:05.559 Mike DiMartino and Brian knets Go have founded, and it's 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.960 living under the umbrella of Nickelodeon where they get to 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.240 sort of make a jillian projects over the next like series. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.920 I think it's like twenty years um, as they kind 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.880 of grow out this universe. Um. You know I I 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.480 I'm such a fan of them and would be a 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.400 fan if I had nothing to do with the shows, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.319 So having any kind of credibility at all to talk 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.440 about doing the show with Nickelodeon and have them get 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.360 excited about it. And then we brought Dante on who 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:34.400 plays Prince Zuko in Avatar the Last Airbender and general 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.400 I wrote in the Legend of Cora um and as 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.720 a friend of mine who have done many cons with 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:44.880 and really love being with. And we're very very different. Um. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.480 It's it's a great dynamic and it's been so fun. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.720 We've recorded. Must say, we've probably recorded like sixteen episodes, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.320 but we've only we've just now launched last week and 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.800 have released three. So um, it's that space of like, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.040 well I hope he but like what we've done, because 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.120 we've already done all of those and we're not going 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.560 to go back and change them. So I was so good. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.360 Let's back up a little bit, like where, uh where 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.400 did you? Where were you situated when it comes to 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.360 these original uh The Last Airbender and stuff like that, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.240 Like were you a big fan? Was this something you 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.679 had always been into? And it's like that was at 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.120 the seed of it all. Yeah. Well, so when I 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.800 auditioned for the Legend of Cora, I was a fan 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.920 of The Last Airbender. I was a fan of Avatar, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.240 but was a recent fan of it. I came to 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.080 it as a an adult um just through so many 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.480 friends of mine who were like, you have to watch 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.560 our show, and then I as as I was watching it, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.360 this audition came through for the sequel series, and I 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.480 was so freaked out that I tried to emotionally separate 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.120 myself from it. I actually had the thought like, oh, 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.199 I wish I didn't know how great this is, because 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.800 I know how great this second series is probably going 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:03.000 to be, and I stopped. I sort of put a 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.160 I put the kai bosh on watching it until I 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.800 was fairly confident that I had not gotten a part 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.520 on the Legend of Cora because it takes so long 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.240 to find out for some animation projects. UM, I'm not 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.920 sure why, but for some reason, the casting process for 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:25.000 animation just tends to be much more. It's like luxuriously long. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.160 I mean, I want to say and I'll have to ask, uh, 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.920 I'll have to ask. I mean, the guys won't remember. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.280 But maybe like the Glodeon casting will, I feel like 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.280 months and months passed. I mean I really felt like. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.320 I feel like it was a long period of time 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.000 from when I did the very first audition to when 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.760 I remember when I got a call back I said 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.800 the words like, oh, that's not cast yet, and then 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.200 from that to like a chemistry test again, I was like, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.840 wait a minute, I have long since thought this job 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.680 was went to someone else, and then and so so that, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.320 and whereas with casting in live action, for the most part, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.840 you know, it's like we're shooting next week. There's a 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.800 lot of kind of like this is and this is 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.600 the last piece is finding this person and then we 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.720 immediately start shooting. UH and so UM I had returned 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.440 to UH to the last Airbender, and then I found 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.800 out I got the job. Um, and just lost my mind. Yeah, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.800 completely lost my mind. And it was immediately terrified, as 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.000 we've been trained to be in Hollywood, and uh, like, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.480 how can this go wrong? When will I be fired? 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:28.800 This is too good to be true, all of that 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:33.720 kind of stuff. And so I absolutely love it and 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.440 it has been it's just been a great opportunity when 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:42.160 it dropped on Netflix, and both shows dropped last summer 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.200 during the pandemic on Netflix, and immediately just we're at 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.320 the top of Netflix UM chart. I don't even know 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.400 what that means, but yeah, uh they were. They were 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.680 just sort of consistently like, oh, this is you know, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.760 in in all over the world on Netflix, these two 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.000 shows were yeah and and um And so I thought, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.360 because I had talked about doing something like this, because 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.800 I do have a lot of experience in podcasting, um, 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.720 having done the j V Club for nine years, over 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:16.080 nine years and uh and I thank you. That's the 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.960 first time a smattering of applause has really felt fantastic. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.200 Uh and uh And you know, I that was a 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.320 real situation where a few years ago I thought, Wow, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.040 if I could combine those two things and get to 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:35.000 do something kind of meta about these shows, I would 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.440 love that and I had mentioned it to Mike and Brian, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.360 but they were sort of off starting the Netflix live 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:44.680 action thing. Um, and that was sort of it was 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.240 like nebulous because it was like, well, yes, they have 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.400 a relationship to Nickelodeon, but now they're working on this 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.360 other thing, and Nickelodeon hadn't licensed. Like it's just all 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.520 that sort of where does this belong kind of conversation 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.120 and but when it when it landed on Netflix, I 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.040 was like, I gotta I'm gonna have to try and 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.080 pursue this again. And so I did reach out this 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.920 time to Nickelodeon, and um, the timing was was right 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.280 for them as well, and they were like, yeah, we 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.040 want to, We absolutely want to do this. We want 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.760 to we're building you know, out our podcasting world and um. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.080 And so I've been working on it for a really 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.720 really long time. It's been you know, like almost a year, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.480 and it's it's just been amazing. It's been amazing. It's 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.320 it's just a show that both shows are you know, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.400 they just there's just nothing about it that feels like 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.320 limited or you know, I mean, yeah, like there's this 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:45.399 there's also a SpongeBob SquarePants uh. Podcast. I love everyone 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.720 who did SpongeBob I as people. I love the host, um, 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.639 I love Nickelodeon. They are treasure to work with, at 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.080 least in my personal experience. I don't know how I 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.399 would do a podcast about SpongeBob, Like, I'm not sure 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.080 what I would and I'm sure tone only they're very different. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.480 But with Avatar Lost Airbender, we're talking about you know, 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.399 we're laughing and talking about like the silly childlike adorable stuff. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.160 We're talking about the quality of animation, but we're also 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:17.360 talking about you know, genocide and you know children having 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.760 more responsibility than they're ready for, and you know parental 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.520 frankly abuse and you know, it's just it's very very dense. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.320 There's a lot of layers to it. And so it's 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.280 just not something I've ever gotten tired of watching or 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.720 thinking about. And um, and that's born out in in 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.199 doing the podcast. It's a blast, that's awesome. So this 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.399 all makes sense to me now. I purposely didn't like 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.840 look into a bunch of stuff. I know you've been 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.200 posting a lot of stuff on your social meds, uh, 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.000 And I was like, purposely like, I don't want to 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.200 know what's going on, because I just want to talk 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.080 to Janet about it in person. Uh, So I get 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.520 it now, is it? Are you going episode by episode? 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.320 Is it one of those? We are? But there's I mean, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.359 for example, there's at least forty episodes to the first 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.560 season of our podcast, and there are only twenties episodes 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.480 of the first season of The Last Airbender. So the 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.840 three episodes we've released so far, we started, yes with 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.000 the very first episode, which is called The Boy in 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.520 the Iceberg. We started with episode one, uh, and we 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.040 recap that. We also talked about kind of what we were, 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.199 what our own experiences, we're working on the shows, and 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.560 what to expect from the podcast. But then the very 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.720 next one is a is a sort of deep dive 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.560 conversation with Mike and Brian who created the show, UM 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.200 talking to them about the mythology, about their relationship, how 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.080 they met at risdy UM. And then that conversation went 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.159 on so long that it's a two parter, so that 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.800 just got released. And then the next episode that's coming 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.359 out next Tuesday is episode is Us recapping Episode two, 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.800 And then we have episodes where we're just hanging with 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.920 cast members UM and in reviewing them and talking about 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:55.520 stuff we're talking to, um, you know, like let's talk 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.560 about the martial arts techniques, let's talk about this South 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:03.280 Korean animation with an animator, let's talk about the music composition. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.359 Because the fan base, my experience with them has always 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.480 been that they have a really really uh deep interest 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.680 in appreciation for the craft of the making of the show. 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.959 Um opposed to maybe you know, I'm sure there are 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.679 some fandoms that are more about like, you know, this 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.840 funny thing happens on the show, or I want it. Yeah, 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:28.359 that's right, that's right. Uh So, so there's that, and 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.280 again that feels unlimited, like we're having a problem that 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:32.920 we have so many people that we wanted to fit 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.119 into the first season that we're having. We're like, oh no, 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.080 we're not gonna have enough episodes? Can we Maybe we 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.760 can add some more? And then you know, um, it's 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.680 it's great, it's great. It's great to nerd out on. 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.080 That's awesome. What about what is it about voice work 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.240 for you? Is it is it your kind of I 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:51.960 don't want to say favorite kind of work to do? 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.159 I know, you know a lot of actors talk about 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.320 how great it is to just go in there and 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.639 your sweatpants and not have to go through hair and 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.280 make I don't think I've ever in a single recording 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.240 seen anyone in sweatpants. I hate to out us all 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.320 because I've also joked that, but I mean, yeah, everyone 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.159 I know, everyone I know looks like they mind as 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:17.960 well be going to a fancy dinner. But is it? 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.639 Is that true? Though? As far as kind of shedding 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.879 away some of the things that you need to do 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.800 for camera, is that a big part of it? In 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.240 a big relief, It is? It is. And you know, 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.159 when I started doing it, I think I was less conscious, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.520 but still a little conscious because I was looking around 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.040 at all of these heroes of mine who have been 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.640 doing it forever. You know, when like being friends with 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.360 someone like Lorraine Newman. You know, she does a ton 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:49.480 of kids voices on cartoons, and I feel like she's like, 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.919 you know, put her arm around my shoulder and was like, 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.000 You're going to be grateful you have these voice over 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:58.080 jobs when you're sixty, you know, Like so that I 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.080 think that feels really good. That being said, I'm not, 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.080 you know, a prolific voice over actor like someone like her, 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.119 or like someone like you know, Tara Strong or somebody 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:11.920 who's just it does everything all the time, is always working. Um, 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.040 because you know what, I'm a jack of all trades, 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:19.040 master of none. Why not Janet? Why not Janet? She's 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.240 producing a comedy festival. She's she doesn't have time to 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.480 audition right now? Why not Janet? Yeah? I just found 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.639 out about Tara Strong. Whose voice did she do? That? 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.920 I just she does a voice on Loki? She does 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:35.720 like a that's what I had just looked up. You're 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:38.119 totally right. And then I realized that she's you know, 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.560 and she does a voice in and she does a 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.679 voice and spirited away, So not to worry. She does 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.560 a voice and spirited away. Yeah, she's the baby. Oh 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.280 my god, that funny. I'm not ready to talk about 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:53.280 that yet. Great, Like you said that, you really said 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.480 that in a too soon kind of way, like I'm 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.800 not ready, I'm afrad. I'm not ready to talk about that. 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.760 I'm not emotionally ready to talk about that yet. When 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.040 does your podcast? Do you say? Just launched the first 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:08.040 couple of episodes. It launched last Tuesday. Today is the 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:10.240 whenever we're recording this. I don't know if you're I 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.320 don't know if you want people that's going to ruin. 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.679 The will be a couple of weeks old. So mid 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.600 June we launched. We launched the podcast in mid June, 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.199 and uh and we are. We dropped every week. The 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:23.639 only reason that we have three out now is that 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.359 we did, you know, sort of a bonus on our 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.720 opening week, and did dropped another one on Friday. But 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:32.359 in general, every Tuesday, that's great. I bet that's so 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.520 much fun. I love it. I love it, and I'm 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.440 sure people are gonna love it. Super fans from other communities. 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.120 We want to have them come in and talk about 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.840 what it means to them, so you have time to 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.560 become an expert in you know, in that world, and 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:48.240 then you can come and talk about why you like it. 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.359 I mean, I guess we can go ahead and start 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:01.440 talking about Spirited Away a little bit because I my 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:06.240 background with anime uh is not was not strong at all. 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:08.600 I didn't ever watch any of it, did never read 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.280 any of the the comics, and it's just not something 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.680 I was ever I think maybe I was a little 0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.679 too old. Well, but yeah, came around. I was going 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.960 to say that the same is true for me in 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.440 the sense that like, no one was telling me about 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.760 anime being I knew it existed because I lived in 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.359 San Francisco and when you go to you know, spend 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.760 time in Japantown, as I did because I worked right 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.520 near there. Um. I would always go into these like 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.160 I'm sure I'm gonna butcher this word, but kinokunia these 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.840 the books Japanese bookstores, and they have you know, manga, 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.639 and they have like animy that you could buy on 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.879 a DVD. But that seemed like something that people who 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.560 knew about it already knew everything about it and it 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.600 belonged to them, and no one was saying, like, come 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.919 over to my house and let's watch this show and 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:03.680 so and and because um, because it didn't become as 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:08.639 as widely available until much later. I think you're right. 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.240 I think there are people younger than us who were 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.720 right there for like Crunchy Role, which you know is streaming, 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.800 and like is just all kinds of exposure to anime. 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.680 And then you know, I waffle between saying anime and anime, um, 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.720 depending on like how seasoned the person as I'm talking to. 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.320 I feel like I have to say it the right way. 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.120 It's like it's like going in being like I would 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.879 like to order Ashila and totacos Um. Which where do 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.520 I fall on the seasoning scale? I mean zero, you 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:40.000 fall in. Yeah, I'm saying it anime for you, and 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:44.919 then for any listener who is seasoned, I am also 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.199 I want to make sure they know it's like a 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:52.280 secret secret word only slightly different. Yeah, because I'm a zero. 0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:56.359 You would say anime and I'm like, what do you quote? 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.120 Brian Can Let's go one of the creators of Avatar, 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.320 as he sort of talked about their influence and vice versa, 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.360 he was like, he pointed out, he was like, I mean, 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.919 it's just short for animation, like they're they're the same thing. 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.760 It's it's really okay. Um, but uh but yeah, So 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.320 there's tons of stuff that I didn't get and that 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:19.520 I still haven't seen because now the library of of options, 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.040 even just on Netflix alone is just endless. There are 0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:29.640 people who only watch who are American, who only watch anyway. Um, 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.240 and when I go to conventions that are that are 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.119 heavily on that side, like rather than on the kind 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:40.919 of pop culture like oh look, there's an actor from 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.760 Guardians of the Galaxy to like that's not Um. I 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.840 always feel like wildly intimidated because there's always a ton 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.080 of costplay that I just don't recognize, and I have 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.240 to be like, tell me, tell me what you're dressed as. 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.399 And you can see the look of disappointment cross over 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.120 their eyes, like, Oh, I thought you were cool enough 0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.359 to know what this was, Janet, thanks a lot for 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.800 not knowing. You know. Um so, but but these are 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:08.119 but but these movies are are sort of the most 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:10.800 excess of the they to me, they be they were, 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:12.760 I think, and and it's true for a lot of people. 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:18.520 Um that's the first exposure to what you consider uh, 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.400 Miyazaki is like the first you know, anime. I can't 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.400 I really can't decide it's terrible. I'm say anime. I'm 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.400 gonna say anime. Uh. That that that many people ever 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.040 saw because it was you know, Spirit Away in particular, 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.080 was you know, an Academy Award winner, and it was 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.800 uh it did very very well worldwide, and and so 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.760 I think it was kind of a gateway, whereas like Avatar, 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.639 the Last Airbender and Legend of Kora are kind of 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:46.320 a gateway um animation to anime for some people. Uh, 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.679 so so is and and for much longer and deservedly 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.520 so is is Miyazaki. Yeah. The other thing that happened 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:59.199 to was, um, you know my adopted daughter Ruby. I 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.560 was gonna say, how are you feeling about her being 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.600 the right age to watch something like this or this is? 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.760 But I'll get to that in a second. This is 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.440 I'm not ready to talk about yet. Jane, by the way, 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.800 just fully put her hand in front of the camera. 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:21.080 Uh stop in the name of love fashion. Um. So 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.280 the reason I said my adopted daughter Ruby because I'm 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.040 not like uh Royal Tannenbaum and like, that's how we 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.720 introduced her to people, but it's it's purtned into the story. 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.800 So when we adopted her, we went out to um 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.280 to where we adopted her from, and uh, there's this 0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.560 process of getting to know birth mom, and so we're 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.520 getting to know uh you know, I'm not going to 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.480 say her name just because I want to protect her 0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.440 identity and stuff. But we were getting to know her. 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.360 And she's a kid, you know, who's who's giving us 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:55.360 a child and very young and um was way way 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.520 way into anime. It was one of her passions and 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.880 I didn't know anything about it, and I'm so you're 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.560 in a situation where you're trying to connect a little bit, 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.480 and because you're also even though they've decided, you also 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.160 always feel like you're sort of auditioning to be like, 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.760 you know, I'm gonna be a good dad and stuff 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:15.800 like that, and so I was sort of not faking interests, 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.240 but like, oh, yeah, that sounds so cool, you know, 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.360 like blah blah blah, tell me about it. And through 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:24.200 those conversations it really became clear what it meant to her, 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.840 and it wasn't just these cartoons that she was watching. 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.200 And I realized for the first time speaking to her, 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.760 how much meat on the bone there was, because she 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.360 was really into it and really got into telling me 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.200 about how it's not like what you might think it is. 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:45.920 And so flash forward to a year ago now that 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.400 Ruby is she's almost six and at the time like 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.440 five ish, getting to the point where she can watch 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.400 some of the stuff. I thought, you know what this is, 0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.360 I think in a way sort of honoring the birth 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.760 mom to try and turn Ruby onto some of this 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.360 stuff and and hopefully they will meet one day and 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.680 they can have, you know, something sort of in common 0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:09.280 like this and so we watched uh my neighbor Totorow 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.800 to start her out, and Emily and I and Ruby 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.120 watch it and we were all just like completely charmed 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:20.120 and entranced by how wonderful that movie is. And got 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.120 her a tote robe stuffy a lovey and she sleeps 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.640 with it and it's just it was so wonderful. And 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.560 then moved on to Spirited Away, which for her age 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.600 was a little bit more intense. It's scary. It is scary, 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:36.960 isn't it all right? I was going to ask if 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.920 I'm wrong? She was She was fine. She's always been 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.280 able to separate fact from fiction. And if she gets 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.400 a little scared and a thing, she'll just like snuggle 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.720 up a little tighter. But she's never it never freaks 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.280 her out. Later, she never has nightmares. He's always been 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.480 able to punch a buy her class. And you got 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.680 to start watching The Last Airbender with her, because if 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.680 she if she was fine with Spirited Away, she's going 0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.120 to be totally fine with The Last Airbender. And it 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.600 is so adorable. It's just wonderful. And I want to 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.200 watch so I can tell, but you gotta watch my order. 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.240 And Cora is scarier so she can age up into Cora. 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.160 So you need to watch Airbender before Cora. I mean 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.560 many people don't know you don't have to watch them 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.040 in that order to get it um at all. There 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.920 are definitely people who watched Cora first and then who 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.080 watched the Last Airbender. I'm sure there are Last Airbender 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.120 fans who are like, I can't believe you just said that, Janet. 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.440 But from Mike and Bryan's own lips, absolutely, you can 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.560 watch one before the other. Um. That being said, certainly 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.080 chronologically like the like the Last Airbender takes place seventy 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.880 years before the legend of course, so there are absolutely 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.560 there's a value inherent to watching The Last Airbender first. 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:47.000 And uh, it's just it's just better for younger kids. 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.280 I mean, I think it's it's there are sometimes there 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.160 are people who bring up their kids who are like four, 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.280 and they say, she's obsessed with Cora, And in my mind, 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.920 I'm like, I would not have been able to handle 0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.280 the legend of four when I was four. I mean, 0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.480 I couldn't handle you know, Bambi when I was four. 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:04.680 So I'm trying to handle it out and barely handle 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.040 it now. Yeah, she has a hard time with all 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.680 those Disney movies because she's like, why is always someone's 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:14.000 always sucking dying in these movies? And she should not 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.480 be saying why is someone always fucking dying with that 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.680 much vehemence in public? In public, people are going to 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.719 think that's a little weird. I'm trying to watch your 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.600 core show, though, and you're pushing me away from it. 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:30.320 I'm pushing away because why not, Janet? Because you because 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.640 you will not regret watching the last year of wnder 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.720 first Okay, you won't regret it. And it flies by, 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.239 and there's and it's almost sad how fast it flies by, 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.520 because it's so good. I just realized I have my 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.320 notes on my phone for this, so I'm gonna email 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.280 those while we keep talking for Spirited Away. I'm just 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.760 I'm I'm stuck on the idea and how charmed I 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.360 am by the idea of you, you know, still feeling 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:56.920 like you wanted to impress the the mother Ruby's mom. 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.680 I think that's so lovely. But I was sort of 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.400 a man having being like, let's talk more bad enemy. Here. 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:07.000 Hold this baseball? Mit uh, grab this tr let me 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.280 this princes us tr a child size Hold on to 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:13.320 that for a second, Like, how else are you trying 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.360 to you know, what, how do how does one other 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.760 than just to try to telegraph as many ways as 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.000 possible what a great person you are? Like, that's that's 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:27.600 just that's such a specific experience that we don't hear 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.480 about very often. You know, the experience I mean surely right, 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.120 there's the experience. I'm not making you talk about it, 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.560 but the experience of of your I'm going to be 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.920 adopting your child. Yeah, yeah, it's very intense. And here's 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.920 and here's how I want you to feel about that 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:47.080 and feel about me is very intense. It is very intense. Uh, 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:48.600 one of these days I'm gonna do I don't know 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.040 if it's would be on stuff you should know, because 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.240 we may do a show on adoption, but I'd probably 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.800 refrain from getting super personal there. But at some point 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.720 I feel like I want to like talk about that 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:08.160 a lot, like to the people on the internet personal 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:12.319 way I do because I have got to share it 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.960 with nameless, faceless strangers. Well, for the reason why is 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.040 not to do anything for me. But I think that 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:23.400 there's so much I think so many people are scared 0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:27.120 of something like adoption because it's super, super fucking scary 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.919 that they might shy away from it. And I think, 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.920 I think more people need to tell their story because 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:37.040 it is fraught with many, many complications, but it's it's 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.279 worth it because you know, and I would say, you know, 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:44.000 without I'm speaking directly out of to quote Ira Glass 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:48.960 Modern Jackass Magazine, But I feel like as people, as 0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:53.120 more and more people of this generation of future generations 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:57.880 wait to have kids, perhaps adoption will become even more prolific, 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.759 just because it's just, yeah, it's a better choice for 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.440 all kinds of reasons, within the context of like, well, 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.760 I'm forty eight and I've decided that it's really important 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.000 to me to be a mom. You know how what's 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.640 that going to look like? The more that's out there 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.399 supporting that as a viable choice, if you know, if 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.560 that's if that's right for somebody, the more the better. 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.520 I mean, yeah, totally, I love it. Maybe I'll do 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.200 that one day, share it with the internet. It's not 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.440 even a person. So when we had heard a lot 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.840 about I had heard a lot about Spirited Away, obviously 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.239 because it's just such a huge movie and a big 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.239 award winner, and what are you drinking? What is that? 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.160 I'm sorry to say, it's a much a it's a 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.359 ice much a latte, that's right, but it's also did 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.080 you say that in a dumb down way? For me? 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:55.040 How's it really pronounced? Mata? Uh? It's a spirited away 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.600 is something I knew about because even though I wasn't 0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.400 a fan. You can't be just a fan of movies 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.239 and watch the Scars and stuff like that not know 0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.040 about it. But it was always in that category of like, oh, 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.880 I'm not into anime, so I'm not going to watch 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.600 that like a dummy, Like what a closed minded way 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.439 to think. And when we finally watched it, I didn't 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.399 know what to expect because Totoro was so just such 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.040 a simple story and so lovely and spirited Away was 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:27.080 just so like druggie mind bending and out there and 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:32.040 grotesque and scary, and uh, I was just like what 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.000 the At times I was like, what am I watching? 0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.680 Is like it blew me away? Yeah, well that's one 0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.880 of the reasons that I am so fascinated by it 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.719 and why I think it's so it's so interesting to 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.760 talk about because this is a very very bad comparison. 0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:47.799 So I should probably shouldn't even be doing it. But 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.000 you know how like they are like, this is a 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.000 very bad example, and it's of course I'm like, I'm 0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:57.319 whitewashing everything in americanizing it. But because I'm American, bear 0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.640 with me. Radiohead is not a band I would have 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:05.480 ever thought would have become a huge band all over 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.279 the world, because you know, Tom York is interested in 0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.880 making more like his music was just becoming more and 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.400 more experimental, and the more experimental became and the less 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.719 sort of mass appeal you would think it had their 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:22.960 star continued to rise. And that's not always the case. Um, 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.560 because you know, there's all you can snob out in 0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.640 pop culture and go like, oh the you know, a 0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.560 lot of the time really popular stuff is not necessarily 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.080 great because it's been watered down, or it's doesn't have 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.440 as unique voice or whatever. Um. And so the fact 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:42.319 that something like this cross so many cultures and and 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:44.720 was beloved to so many people in so many different 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.960 age groups and is still so strange, I think it's 0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.680 really cool and and worth noting. You know, I think 0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.000 that's a great comparison. Actually, Okay, well that's not bad. 0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:02.480 The two white people are great it's an Internet first 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.400 Uh yeah, I mean it. I think as Emili and 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.400 I were both watching it. Of course with Ruby, we 0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:13.320 were both a little bit uh not thinking I should 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.279 we turn this off because she was really loving it. 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.399 But I think we were just I didn't know it 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:24.440 was so kind of batshit crazy right until we started 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.680 getting into it. And it's one of those that I 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.000 watched it again, like just finished right before I recorded 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.160 with Hodgment again for the second time. And I know 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.440 it's a movie I'll revisit because it's one that I 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.720 know you could probably see twenty times and just visually 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.000 still find new things that just blow your mind somewhere 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.640 in the frame. Yeah, absolutely, And I will say, I 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.640 mean that's the feeling that I have watching it, is 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:54.480 it taps so quickly into the being a kid and 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.840 feeling out of your elements somewhere, even if it's everything 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.359 I say is so American, even if it's them all, 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.920 uh like I keep getting awesome them all, but you know, 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.680 just that feeling of homesickness. I mean, I felt it 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:14.799 activates my feeling of homesickness immediately because it's so it 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:19.719 is so strange, and she's transported so quickly and she's 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:26.160 so adorable, and the sense of like loneliness of feeling 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.160 like I don't have anything to hang onto, I've got 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.200 no sort of touchstone. I don't know what's happening to me. 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:36.440 Uh for it doesn't pull its punches on that, to 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.719 be sure. And I completely understand why you would be 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.799 watching with Ruby and going like sort of constantly just 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.920 then watching realize you, oh, I'm just watching her. I'm 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.160 not even watching the screen. I just want to make sure, however, 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.359 she's responding to this, because I promise you, if I 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.840 was four or five, six seven, possibly, there were so 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.120 many movies that my dad thought I was ready for 0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:58.520 that he would turn have to turn off because I 0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:04.080 would just be sobbing, sobbing. And it's those freaking mirror neurons, 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:07.359 like when when a child would be afraid in in 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.760 a in a moment in a movie, or even an adult, 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.080 I would just be racked with like fear and sadness 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.280 and I would have to take a break. Would be like, okay, 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.359 j do you want it now here? There's all here 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.880 are the categories. Do you want to stop watching it 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.040 and never come back to it? Do you want to 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.840 keep watching it and power through the international breakdown you're having, 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:27.920 or do you want to maybe we just take a break. 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.920 Why don't we stop playing it and then we'll come 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:30.920 back to it. I had to do that with a 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.120 Life of Pie. Like the year that came out. I 0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.040 knew I couldn't see it in the theater. I was like, Nope, 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.160 not going to see in the theater. Finally got around 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.480 to it and I and I was like, I got 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.480 you know, forty minutes in and I was crying so 0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:44.759 hard that I was like, I'm gonna have to walk 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.120 away from this, Mike, get a cup of tea, like, 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.960 get myself back together. I know I'm going to finish it, 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.680 but I cannot do it in one sitting. Um And 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.040 this absolutely would have been the case for me. I 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.560 would have the minute she's scared, the first time it 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.560 starts crying, I would have been like, Okay, why don't 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.520 we stop this, why don't we bike ride? And then 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.480 we'll come back and we'll be ready, will be stronger 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.520 and tougher. We will have processed the first few minutes, right, 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.680 you know. Yeah. The good thing about kids, or at 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.319 least my experience with Ruby, is that they're they're so 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:21.200 just brutally honest and like she'll let us know. First 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.080 of all, we don't even have to check in um. 0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.959 And also like just the little things that you find 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.680 a five and a half year old saying watching a 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.400 movie like Spirited Away along the way, you know the 0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.839 running commentary, which is, I wish I could have heard it. 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:40.040 It's the sweetest thing because it's the basest, most honest 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:44.480 take on something. Yeah, through those little eyes like um, 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.040 it really helps you point because it can seem like 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.880 a convoluted story when you read a plot summary of it. 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:53.279 It sounds crazy and hard to follow. And it is, 0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.600 like you said, as you're watching it, you're going, like, 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.440 I am so engrossed in this. But if you asked 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.279 me what is this movie about? Out, I would give 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.400 the most cursory answer, knowing it was a waste of 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.839 time because no one will get the sense of what 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.719 it is just by saying, like a little girl gets 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.440 lost in a bistical bathhouse, Like right, it's over. You 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.960 can't talk about it, you know, but it is about 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.719 Like it's one of those movies that an adult can 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.960 go and research afterwards, which is what I did. What's 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.560 it about? And they're all these I know, I'm excited 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.600 to talk about those themes because I too had to 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.359 be like, okay, I I know I'm missing stuff. It 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.040 was that feeling, and even that is a little kid feeling, 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.759 right of being like, I know this represents something specific 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:40.040 and I cannot look I can't eyeball it and say, well, clearly, 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.160 that's the difference between the working class and capital, like 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.400 you quite able to fudget A little bit of this 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.520 stuff is sort of obvious, But it's a movie that 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.719 you can research and dive into. But the beauty of 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.600 it is it's also a movie that can exist in 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.319 so simplistically for a five and a half year old. Absolutely, 0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:01.479 and she scared, she wants her parents. She loves Haku. Yeah, 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.080 we all love HACKU. We all love hack. He's a dreamboat. 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.960 First of all. I think him, I love him or 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:11.640 be him. I'm not sure a handsome little Japanese dragon 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.759 boy in our life to take care of things, that's right. 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.400 Oh he's such what a splendid dragon he becomes, yeah, 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.239 very splendid dragon. Um. But let's talk about some of 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.040 those themes because I did some research, and you know, 0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:27.440 some of the more obvious things is the class distinction, 0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:31.760 and like you know, obviously these parents literally become pigs 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.200 after they drive up in their autie. And then at 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.120 first you're like cash and credit cards and you know, 0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:40.680 it's it's it's pretty black and white. But as the 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.279 movie goes on, there's there's so much going on that 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:48.720 I found myself wondering, all right, the three green heads, um, 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:50.680 one of them has a full mustache and the other 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:57.879 two do not, Like what is that? Like? Okay, one 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.399 of these mustaches is different. If I activate that one, 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:02.520 I will get out of the escape room faster. Uh, 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:07.600 It's true, It's true. We think everything, which is a 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.839 testament to it. I think absolutely, What are the themes 0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:14.439 have you found? Janney, I was setting up to go, Well, 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:18.480 there's also and who could forget? She said, hope, holding 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:22.279 up her face. Well, I think the other another really 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.439 big one is no face, right, Like wondering, like trying 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:29.920 to understand, especially from you know, the sense you get 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.719 of that character before he kind of transforms um and 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:38.600 trying to sort of understand like, okay, is he something 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:42.319 it's it feels like he's mirroring his environment. But is 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.759 that a very specific reference or is it just the 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.880 sort of idea of how malleable we all are and 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.680 how we need you know, some we we do need 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.360 that touchdown, We do need that guide that who is 0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:59.000 going to remind us, you know, what the who we 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:04.319 are or or what the best version of ourselves might be. Um, 0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.719 which actually don't know if that's like fully answered. I think. 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.319 I mean it's talks talks about the idea of him 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.719 being you know, like reflecting the characters who surrounds him 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.080 like and then becoming the things you consume, which makes 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:20.320 you become even more of the thing that you've consumed, 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.640 like if you sort of uh, it becomes this kind 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:26.200 of cycle. Um. But that's such an interesting character. And 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.560 I will also say that that is an oft cosplayed 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.080 character because when you look at the characters and spirited 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:32.920 Away are like, oh, a lot of these would be 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.440 a real challenge to pull off and pay homage to. 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:39.560 If you're like trying to get around in a convention center, 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:41.799 you put on your black cloak and you paint a 0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:46.360 beautiful no face mask. You have anonymity and you you know, 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.680 provided you're not eating people, um, you stay pretty small 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.919 and you can you can navigate yourself across the coun floor. Yeah, 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:57.319 and what was the magic trick that Miyazaki uses to 0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:02.360 somehow get different emotions out of no face and almost 0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.560 seemingly expression. But it doesn't change. I mean, it's all 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.120 it's all in our own heads. As a viewer, I think, yeah, 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.799 and this and just the I mean I I realized 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:16.600 that I was leaning forward so hard when he's just 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:21.919 going uh huh huh, like you really are like I'm 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.640 with you, I'm with you, I'm okay, I'm right here, 0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.799 like I'm trying to understand. I want to understand. Um 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:30.840 that that that that could have such a strong effect 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.160 and be so simple. You could say that for the 0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.839 whole movie. But that's definitely an example of like, oh, 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.600 how do I help you? What do I do you 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.640 need from me? You know, there's a lot of that 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:45.080 in this movie. I think because you identify so strongly 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.160 with all of the characters to want to jump through 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.239 the screen and lend a hand. Yeah. Um, And and 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.799 it's hard as a person of my age coming into 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.360 this stuff at the first time. I can't not compare 0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:00.720 it to Disney. And that's totally fair. Well, look, Disney 0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.120 had to, I mean, they that was like Pixar who 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.799 kind of helped Shepherd in the movie on the American side. 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.040 So were you thinking of the brooms the brooms uh 0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.200 and the little set care Well, I just mean sort 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:16.080 of period, like just the different different animation styles, the 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.240 fact that there's and you know, I love the Disney stuff. 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.239 I love the Pixar stuff, and there they do have substance, 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.520 but there's so much more meat on the bone with 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:29.239 this stuff than your typical Disney thing. And I think 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.319 part of that is all the symbolism that you may 0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:34.360 not quite have it with the Disney movies. Part of 0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:38.360 it is it's not wall to wall pop music. Um, 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.360 you don't always know, you don't know to look for 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:45.360 the pidd and penises and the Little Mermaid. And I 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.439 love the music of all. I mean, I can listen 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:50.680 to and now I have to and have enjoyed listening 0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:54.640 to Frozen and and uh and Frozen two and uh, 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.880 what's the one on the Island with the girl? It 0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:00.000 was so great Mowanna, Like, I love all those songs. 0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:03.200 But there's something really refreshing about seeing a movie like 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.680 this with just that wonderful score and not feeling like 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.400 they're trying to sell a soundtrack on top of it. Well, 0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:11.319 it's funny because there are elements of it. I brought 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.920 up the brooms um from Fantasia with a little soot creatures, 0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.160 because there are some sort of like you could compare 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.839 some of it to Fantasia, which is, you know, not 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:27.520 something that Disney continuously repeated. But it was this very strange, 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:32.640 special experiment that did have all of these different styles 0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.640 and all of these and was you know, so largely 0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.120 based in the music. And it was entirely based in 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:40.520 the music and and some you know, more mature sort 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:46.040 of themes um. But I'm sure he did. I'm sure 0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:49.480 he did. I have absolutely Again, modern Jackass magazine do 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.880 not know what I'm talking about. It seems unlikely that 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:56.520 he wouldn't have been exposed to that. But I mean, 0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:58.160 that's the thing where it's like, well, if that was 0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:01.520 a mild influence or inspiray, shin, you've taken it to 0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.520 the nth level and so far out, you know, just 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:11.760 surpassed whatever your influence was profoundly um. And I realized 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:13.759 also by the way that I was lying, this was 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.239 not the first anime that I ever saw. I did 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.439 I I saw, I saw. I know that there's something 0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:23.640 else that I saw, in addition to having seen something 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:27.880 called Barefoot Gen which is UM anime that I watched 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.480 in an ethics in film class when I was in college. 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:38.000 And it is a horrifying, heartbreaking, shattering as it should 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.759 be UH anime about a little boy and uh in 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:49.200 the bombings in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and it is fucking horrible. 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.319 It will haunt you forever. I there are things in 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:57.480 that movie I can't unsee and it is chilling, And 0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:02.240 it was definitely something that you know, it's so well done, 0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.319 but boy is it. I mean, it's like, you know, 0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.239 the only comparison is the Wall I guess you know, 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.600 and that it's just you're like, oh, yes, the things 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.920 that can be achieved through anime in terms of depicting 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:18.640 human horrors that we put each other through no no bounds. 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.440 So if anybody wants to see something that will shatter 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.960 their soul and make them never question whether Americans should 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:30.320 be hated by other countries for decisions they've made through time. 0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:35.160 It's it's really something, It's really something well anime definitely 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.680 feels like it's much more willing to walk through the 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:44.040 door of of making a movie that really teaches kids 0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:47.760 something much more deeply than sort of the Disney stuff. 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:49.759 I mean, there are plenty of less Every Disney movie 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:53.640 has it's lesson, But I don't think they're dumbed down. 0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:57.040 They're just very sort of down here and basic. I 0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.560 can't wait to have this conversation after you've watched The 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:04.880 Last Bender, because you're twirling your hair. Guess what you 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.759 will not say that about those Oh okay, you will 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.799 be like, wow, I can't believe Ruby loved it for this. 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.160 But the whole time during that episode, I kept thinking, God, 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:17.400 this is so you know, there's some deep, deep stuff 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:27.000 in there. I guess one of the big themes is 0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.400 that's sort of talked about the parents feeding their faces, 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.520 and there's so much grotesque sort of what was it 0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:38.120 called the stink distinct distinc spirit. There's so there's so 0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:42.719 much over consumption and purging. Were so the theme of 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:49.359 regurgitation and like X explanation, I guess so, I mean 0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:53.839 it just that happens over and over and over. Yeah, 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:57.399 there's a lot of puking, like the idea of being 0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.600 like I'm gonna sit down with a you know, bag 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.480 of pop corn and some snickers and just you know, 0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.759 it'll drive you towards vegetarian is well, I don't know 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:08.880 if that was any of the point of it. Um. 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:14.240 I love the Uh. Just that whole first bathing sequence. Uh, 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:16.439 from the moment it started till the moment it ended 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:21.359 was just so fucking weird, amazing. Yeah. Uh, because you're 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.520 trying to figure out, as the first time watcher, like 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:29.080 what even is what is going on at this bathhouse? 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.479 And like I think you spend most of the movie 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.160 trying to figure this out, and and you think, boy, 0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.440 this is nuts. And that's in the first third ish 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:41.600 of the movie, and it just gets crazier and crazy. 0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:48.719 Yeah it doesn't. It's so unapologetically bizarre and it's not 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:53.040 like things get wrapped up in a way that that like, 0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:57.239 using just this as one example, you know, the main 0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:01.120 character Yukuba, right is or you, Bubba. I don't want 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:02.520 to say that wrong, So I hope that you can 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:06.719 edit that out. Um yeah, no, I beg you, I 0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:08.640 beg you. I don't need the hate mail. I do 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:12.040 not need the hate mail. Um yeah, yeah, Bubba, thank you. 0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.680 But the fact that she has we find out, you know, 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.520 towards the end of the movie, while not really maybe 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:21.480 it's halfway through, but that she apparently has a twin sister, 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:26.080 and yeah, and and a twin sister, Zeniba. And then 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.799 when we meet we go to and then Zeniba says, 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:33.319 it has this wonderful she has this uh they all 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.279 have this kind of wonderful experience with her, and she 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:41.680 call me, call me granny. Then when sen goes back 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:48.600 to see she calls her granny. And that's right at 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.840 the end, and you're and you're like, oh, wait a minute, 0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:55.000 and but nothing is that's it, that's your that's your 0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.480 your experience of is that is she is she one? 0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:02.200 And the same is is there's nothing helping you along 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.279 other than that she calls granny. And then you sort 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:07.760 of project back and go, well, it does fly away 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:11.319 every day. Where is she going? I need it? Well 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.279 year old to explain it to me. Yeah, exactly, like 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:18.320 for real. But I mean, but that's the other ideas, 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:21.080 like there's no one is ever any one thing. And 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:22.920 I mean, as much as you would think, oh, this 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.400 person stands for this, so this person represents this. Everyone's 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:29.719 constantly transforming. People have more than one name. Um. You know, 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:33.120 So there's like, I mean, there's as much transformative stuff 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:38.280 that just keeps happening over and over as there is puking, yeah, 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:42.200 as there is barfing out sludge uh in. In my research, 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:44.400 I did find that u shape shifting is such a 0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:47.400 big thing in Japanese culture, So I mean this movie 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.520 is just full of it, like things morphing into different 0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:52.640 things all over the place. Yeah. I don't know that 0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.920 I've ever seen a movie with so many original looking creatures. 0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.440 It's you know, when you're used to when you're raised 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.319 an America and you're you've seen only Disney, you see 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:06.720 kids and adults and like a talking animal, one talking 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.160 parrot or something right, right, And that's sort of the 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.480 extent of it. Maybe some of them get a little 0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:15.160 more creative than that, but like, nothing that comes close 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:19.759 to touching this. And also why when you're watching it, 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.600 why why are some people presenting as human? Why are 0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:28.239 some people? Why are some creatures sort of human what 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.560 you know? And then other creatures nothing like them? The 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:35.760 big giant baby. You know, some things are have almost 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.520 no shape at all and just totally just sort of 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:40.719 shadows with like a little bit of a hint of 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:44.520 maybe two eyes. And then some are fully articulated and 0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:48.720 have giant bushy mustaches and multiple arms and little claw 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:53.400 nails and they're the good right, or they're the tiny 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:58.560 little black little little guys are so cute, little city 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:02.479 dusk guys. Yeah, I think you know, there's so many 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.520 little things about the movie that make it stand out 0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:07.839 above the rest. Like one of my favorite sequences at 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:11.240 the end, when she's taking the train with no phase 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.000 and instead of just having the train on the tracks, 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:18.600 the tracks are underwater and that just like all of 0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:21.479 a sudden, everything is reflected and it's just a little 0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:24.799 decision like that where you know, whereas it could have 0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.600 just been a train track is just it's amazing. Yeah. 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:32.760 And those all the backdrop painting is just yeah, so stunning. 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.520 I mean it hurts your heart how beautiful some of 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:39.520 those renderings are. And um, you know, I had that 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:41.279 there are these moments where I would be like, oh, 0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:43.480 I'm going to look away to you know, pick up 0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:46.399 my glass of water, and then I would go what wait, 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:48.160 and then you would and then I would rewind. And 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:50.399 it was like on that, especially specifically on the train, 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:54.719 it was like, oh, the blank space quote quotes that 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:57.239 they're that they're going through. You don't want to miss 0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:00.600 that because there's this sort of open landscape that's just 0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:03.440 might as well be an abstract painting. But it's just beautiful. 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.960 It's just beautiful to the eye. Yeah. I mean, the 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:10.120 whole third act is just full of so much emotion 0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:14.040 and heart. I think there's a lot of like sort 0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.320 of figuring it out of the story and a lot 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:19.280 of fear of what's going on through the first two thirds, 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:22.200 and then that last third it really goes into much 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.320 more as far as if you're used to watching Disney 0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:28.560 and more traditionally able to digest it thing like linear 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.080 even it's just like a sense of was a standard 0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:35.640 linear storytelling style sort of Yeah. And then like oh 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:40.280 my god, when she's flying with Haku and she remembers 0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:44.760 the story about the shoe, yeah, and he turned and 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:46.720 she remembers that he was the spirit of the river 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.920 and he changes back, it's just like the music swelling 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.440 and oh, I'm like getting choked up just thinking. I know, 0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.480 I'm like crying in my house at a on a 0:57:55.560 --> 0:58:00.600 what's this a Wednesday at noon? About to record Ricogman 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:02.280 and I'm finishing up that movie. I'm like, I gotta 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:05.640 pull it together. Yeah, And you know, Ruby's like, why 0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:09.000 are you guys crying? Like this is very sad to 0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.200 remember he was a river and She's like, but that's happy, 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:15.720 and I'm like, oh, so simple. It really active. That 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.400 was That was another thing that I was not expecting 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.720 was um and this is you know, perhaps speaking of 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:26.320 going deeper than necessary for movie crush, but uh it 0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:30.440 I felt I'm I'm so used to crying during movies. 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:34.280 It's it's a non issue. I mean, that's that's that's expected. Um. 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:39.040 But I had the the feeling that for those of 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.080 you who have experienced a loss that has resulted in 0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:47.760 tremendous grief of some kind, I had that like you 0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:50.680 can't take a deep enough breath kind of feeling where 0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:54.360 grief is like, oh I don't have lungs anymore, only grief, 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:59.240 and it just there's a sense of there's a really scary, 0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:02.280 out of control role feeling about grief sometimes and crying 0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:06.439 and feeling like, you know, you really understand why there 0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:10.280 are cultures that that have keening and that wail and 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:13.840 and that that that that is a necessary part of 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:19.000 of grieving because they're speaking of regurgitating. There is a 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:23.800 sense of needing to get something foreign that's lodged inside 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.480 of you out so that you can continue to be 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:30.680 a person and survive. And that started bubbling up in me, 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.920 and I was so unprepared for it. And it like 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:38.200 everything with this movie not like everything you can definitely draw, 0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:42.080 as we said, we're identifying certain themes, but at the 0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:45.840 same time, it's just abstract enough that you can't necessarily 0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:48.160 you don't have to necessarily point to any one thing 0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:52.160 because it's just this feelings are just being washed over you. 0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:55.040 And then and the music and the visuals and the 0:59:55.160 --> 1:00:00.160 sense of emotion even not expressed through this specific fick 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:03.840 experience of a character um that I was like I 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:07.160 couldn't necessarily say, you know, because Brandon was like I 1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:09.880 was like, oh no, like like, oh, this has become 1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:13.960 something else now for you, and sort of like how 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:17.640 what what was what was there a trigger? And I 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.640 was like no, I don't know. It was almost like 1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:22.760 a sneeze, you know what I mean. It was just 1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:25.600 like this is just happening to me. I'm just it's 1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:28.360 just happening, and I can't say, oh, I it was 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:30.439 that moment. This moment reminded me of my mom dying, 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.200 Like not at all, but it has just been. It 1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:34.920 was just down there. I was like, I'm ready here, 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:39.240 I come. Guess what I really I really was like, God, 1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:41.720 I gotta I gotta get this under control. Like I 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.560 have to sort of tell myself, like you can breathe, 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:47.880 you can breathe. You know, it's okay to have this ceiling. 1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:51.760 It feels good, absolutely, I mean it always feels better, 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:57.320 like throwing up. The moment when the nausea stops and 1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:01.240 you've realized that you have you fear body feels amazing. 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:06.880 Going from feeling so intensely difficult on some level, Is 1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:10.280 it is that's its own high of just saying, oh, 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:14.200 I feel so much better, this is amazing. Yes. Yeah, 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:18.640 I've had those moments through movies, specifically where it I 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:21.000 don't even know and if it, like you were saying, 1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:23.760 if it was something specific that was inside me that 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:25.840 I clearly needed to get out but I wasn't in 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:29.720 touch with. But where I had found myself just un 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:35.640 inconsolable and and just in a different state of upset 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:37.880 than I had ever been at the at the end 1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:40.600 of a movie or something, and it happened a couple 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.680 of years ago, and I can't remember the movie, so like, 1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:45.720 that's not even the important part. It's this. It's this 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:49.600 literal physical reaction that happens. Like we said, there are 1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:53.680 no lungs anymore. It's like your your throat closes, and 1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:58.200 it's uh, it's very cathartic feeling. I always wondered if 1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:00.960 like primal screen therapy would be something that would benefit me. 1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:05.120 I mean, that's you, I get it. There are cree 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:09.440 creepy seventies therapy that you see in like cult documentaries. 1:02:09.760 --> 1:02:12.200 I'm sorry to say, I'm like, now this I don't 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:14.600 have a problem with. It's like, wait a minute, that 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:16.800 that's the thing that most people are pointing to, going like, 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:21.560 well that's wrong, and it looks very healing actually exactly. 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:26.200 Oh goodness, um the I'm surprised Disney didn't try to 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:28.680 rip this off at some point, not this movie specifically, 1:02:28.680 --> 1:02:32.120 but after Spirited Away. I'm surprised they didn't say, well, 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:35.080 let's try our hand at anime, or maybe they did 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:37.919 and I wasn't aware of it. I don't even know. Yeah, 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:41.520 I don't. I mean I think you know, like Big 1:02:41.560 --> 1:02:45.200 Hero six sort of again, now I'm sort of conflating 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:49.640 Pixar and Disney, and that's not fair to Pixar into sense, um, 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:53.480 it's not fair to either. Look is that fair to either? Um? 1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:55.640 I have I I feel the same way about Disney 1:02:55.640 --> 1:02:57.320 stuff as as you do anything. I still want to 1:02:57.360 --> 1:03:00.800 do voice work for both, and I'm and I am available, 1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:03.000 and I do and I am a princess. I'm a princess, 1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:05.920 princess princess. Uh No, I mean, it's just it's just 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:09.320 a different The experience that you expect to have is different. 1:03:09.360 --> 1:03:11.600 And that's not to say that there aren't Disney movies 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:15.160 that have had um, really lasting impacts on me, and 1:03:15.200 --> 1:03:18.280 that I absolutely cherish an adore. I think to some 1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:22.080 degree there is a sense of I don't want to 1:03:22.160 --> 1:03:26.520 fetishize the otherness of being from a different culture, but 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:31.600 the experience of of watching, you know, I mean, even 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:35.440 like something like Aladdin is still told through the lens 1:03:35.520 --> 1:03:39.240 of American storytelling, Like that's okay, this is how we 1:03:39.320 --> 1:03:42.000 understand this is this is the Disney way of understanding 1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:44.720 this thing that you know is now like problematic yet 1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:48.000 also very beloved and important. For other reasons to people, 1:03:48.400 --> 1:03:50.640 and I get all of that, um, but I think 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:54.439 there there's you know, there's just something to be said 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:56.960 for like we should all like we should all be 1:03:57.000 --> 1:03:59.560 so lucky as to have the opportunity to see art 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:02.040 from all over the world that just feels really important 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:06.240 and um, and it might connect you with something inside 1:04:06.240 --> 1:04:10.360 yourself that you haven't had access to through art because 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:14.440 some some some way in which you've you've digested it, 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:16.720 like there, it hasn't touched a certain part, you know, 1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:20.920 um that maybe something else will. Yeah. I mean anytime 1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:24.880 I'm traveling or here in Atlanta at the High Museum, 1:04:24.920 --> 1:04:27.520 anytime I see like something, you know, the art of 1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:31.200 Zimbabwe coming for two weeks whatever, whatever, I always try 1:04:31.200 --> 1:04:33.640 and go because you know, and a lot of times 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:35.960 it's not something that resonates with me, but sometimes it is. 1:04:36.440 --> 1:04:38.320 But it's just like, well, you know, now I know 1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:40.800 what that's like. Now now I know what that country 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:43.880 is putting out there, absolutely, and and that definitely goes 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:48.240 I think for my Unsurprisingly, things that maybe would be 1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:52.280 more accessible or thought of as children's entertainment on some 1:04:52.360 --> 1:04:55.200 level if they are like Miyazaki or if they are 1:04:55.280 --> 1:04:59.959 like you know Hungarian like puppetry or I mean pupp 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:02.760 treat to great example, speaking of the Center for Puppetry. 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:06.280 You see the way, if you see the way all 1:05:06.320 --> 1:05:09.520 these different cultures handle the same idea of like a 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:12.440 doll that's moving on behalf of a person, like it 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:16.280 has some sort of human traits and characteristics. Um, it's 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:19.760 it's amazing what you can what you find is universal. 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:22.840 And then also those moments that you feel like, oh, 1:05:22.880 --> 1:05:26.120 I'm seeing something that comes from some totally other place 1:05:26.480 --> 1:05:29.760 in terms of you know, like literally and and metaphorically, 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:34.640 and that's it's you know, it's exciting and it is uncomfortable. 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:37.040 It can be uncomfortable. Yeah, and it doesn't even have 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:39.920 to be another culture or country. Sometimes it can just 1:05:39.960 --> 1:05:42.480 be something and there's a little off track, but it 1:05:42.520 --> 1:05:47.720 can be something that you just never previously were turned onto. Yeah. 1:05:47.880 --> 1:05:52.880 That One of the maybe top two three museum exhibits 1:05:52.880 --> 1:05:56.320 I've ever seen was the Alexander McQueen one in New 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:58.840 York that I was like, I don't know anything about 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:02.439 fashion and how fashion and couture and I know nothing 1:06:02.440 --> 1:06:04.760 about that stuff. So I go to the show and 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:08.920 I'm just like blown away and then all of a sudden, 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:11.520 I'm not all of a sudden some huge fashion guy, 1:06:11.560 --> 1:06:13.640 but I wanted to watch the documentary about this guy, 1:06:13.640 --> 1:06:15.560 and I wanted to know more about his life. And 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:17.880 it's like, you know, Emily and I went to the 1:06:17.920 --> 1:06:19.760 opera once in l A. We've never been in the opera. 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:22.040 It turns out we don't like the opera. Fair enough, 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:24.640 fair you gotta you gotta try that chip. Yeah, I 1:06:24.680 --> 1:06:26.240 got a couple of operas of it. You would like, 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:30.120 Oh yeah, I don't know, being like a weird opera dealer, 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:31.480 all of a Sunnen got a couple of I got 1:06:31.480 --> 1:06:33.000 a couple of operas. I think you met. Like we 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.520 went to see La bo M that Bas Lorman put 1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:37.480 on stage in l A when I lived there. I 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:39.200 was like, this is gonna be the one. It's bos Lorman, 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:43.280 it's operads, and we just couldn't get into it. There's 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:47.000 a there's a German opera company um that did a 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:52.120 version of the Magic Flute that was like, um, Tim 1:06:52.160 --> 1:06:57.040 Burton nineteen like Tim Burton meets the nineteen twenties meets opera. 1:06:57.240 --> 1:07:01.840 It's they used a bunch of film projection and um, 1:07:01.920 --> 1:07:05.560 and it's just strange and dark and unlike anything I 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:08.600 had ever seen before, and I was like, oh, I 1:07:08.640 --> 1:07:10.760 love opera. And then I went and saw something more 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:13.520 convention I was like, oh, no, I appreciate opera. I 1:07:13.600 --> 1:07:19.959 appreciate opera. I just love that opera in that specific way, 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:22.000 and says Janet, you need to take a little break. 1:07:22.160 --> 1:07:24.520 Do you need to finish this later? Do you want 1:07:24.520 --> 1:07:28.600 to power through? Oh, that's what intermissions are for got it, 1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:33.880 gotta gotta got it. It's your opportunity to leave with grace. Yeah, 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:35.920 it's your opportunity to realize you left the stove on 1:07:36.040 --> 1:07:39.960 and that's fine. Um. Well, just to wrap up Spirited Away, 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:42.800 I think the ending with um it kind of struck 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:46.640 me today. Well, like the supposed goal is for her 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:50.200 to be reunited with her parents, but it's not. Um, 1:07:50.240 --> 1:07:52.000 it's not one that if you grew up on Disney, 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:55.520 your conditioned that that is like the end all be all. 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:57.880 Like as a viewer, you're not like, you're kind of like, 1:07:57.920 --> 1:07:59.439 do you really want her to go back to Yes? 1:08:00.400 --> 1:08:04.040 The movie yeah, And it pays off in exactly that way, 1:08:04.200 --> 1:08:07.880 like its ending is so abrupt you don't go to 1:08:07.880 --> 1:08:11.440 see started very quickly and yeah, like I don't know 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:13.640 where she hero was going to live she see the 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:16.360 new home. I feel sorry for her that she is 1:08:16.520 --> 1:08:19.760 back with the parents that were greedy enough that they 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:22.080 I mean, because at the end of the day, they 1:08:22.160 --> 1:08:24.640 were the ones who made the decision to you know, 1:08:24.720 --> 1:08:27.719 we don't have an understanding of them having been magic 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:33.240 into gorging themselves on this food. Um, that seems to 1:08:33.320 --> 1:08:35.120 be a decision that they fully made on their own. 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:38.680 And um, and it's yeah, it's so funny, Like here, 1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:41.320 I immediately Michael Chicklist just says one of those voices 1:08:41.360 --> 1:08:43.600 that I just, you know, immediately know it's him. And 1:08:43.720 --> 1:08:47.320 I was like, oh, that's Checklist. That is full on Checklist, 1:08:47.439 --> 1:08:50.120 Like they're really they really did it because they picked 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:53.160 this like just very like I'm just a regular guy, 1:08:53.439 --> 1:08:57.400 you know voice as his. Yeah, and and and then 1:08:57.439 --> 1:08:58.880 I had to look up that it was Lauren Holly 1:08:58.920 --> 1:09:00.800 who did the female voice, because it wasn't quite as 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:08.080 iconic sounding. But yeah, but and Suzanne Plushchett is the ISA, 1:09:08.920 --> 1:09:11.840 which is like, you have to smoke a lifetime. She 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:14.680 had to. She really devoted a lifetime of smoking to 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:19.280 that role. Um, with her incredibly raspy boys, but of 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:22.439 course it was perfect. Um but yeah, she's she comes 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:26.479 back and you really have a sense of like, oh, yeah, 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:30.920 the regular world cool, cool, cool, and you know as 1:09:31.000 --> 1:09:33.439 she's going through that, and then they're like, well, you're 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:34.800 gonna be going to do school and she's like, I 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:39.320 think I'll be okay. Credits it's just very over, yeah, 1:09:39.520 --> 1:09:41.880 not a lot of sentiment attached, like you're used to 1:09:42.040 --> 1:09:44.639 hear in the States, Um, well in fact, and she's 1:09:44.680 --> 1:09:47.240 like she's so she's feeling emotional in her mom's like 1:09:47.560 --> 1:09:52.680 don't stop clinging, like oh boy, okay. Yeah, it's like 1:09:52.920 --> 1:09:54.840 can we go back to the to the spirit world 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:58.120 to Yeah, it's a little bit of the Goonies effect 1:09:58.200 --> 1:10:01.840 of like the kid has this big adventure and then 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:04.479 as reunited with the parents and then it's kind of like, oh, 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:09.920 adventure Land was so much better. Yeah. Yeah, I think, um, 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:13.360 we are and we are. Yeah, you're right. We're conditioned 1:10:13.400 --> 1:10:15.360 to feel like if it's a it's a movie we 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:18.560 think of for young people, there's more a sense of 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:21.320 like I have to be taken care of all the 1:10:21.400 --> 1:10:23.320 way through, and part of being taken care of all 1:10:23.360 --> 1:10:27.320 the way through means that there's something beautiful and wonderful 1:10:27.360 --> 1:10:31.639 and and uh and and safe and great about being 1:10:31.680 --> 1:10:35.320 back with your parents and yeah, I think he wanted 1:10:35.760 --> 1:10:38.320 the parents to be different or like, if they were 1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:40.960 here in the United States, the parents would have transformed 1:10:41.040 --> 1:10:45.280 somehow and been different. And then you know, but this 1:10:45.680 --> 1:10:50.000 means accuses like nah, yeah, back to it. Yeah, kid, 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:52.400 they wish they could have eaten more of the those 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:56.080 beautiful dumplings. I know, those dumplings that they eventually probably 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:59.560 threw up. Well, Janet, this was great. I think we 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:02.280 were going to record a separate thing to go into 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:05.479 the final mini Crush, but I think since we're here 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:09.000 and we're just chatting, uh, this is the last Movie 1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:14.080 Crush episode officially. Uh. You started the show off with 1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:18.519 show number one, and everyone was like, oh, you started 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:25.200 with Tron the best movies of all time. You can't listen. 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:28.000 You came around, did you? I don't know, but you you, 1:11:29.880 --> 1:11:33.519 if I recall correctly, you begrudgingly acknowledged that there was 1:11:33.840 --> 1:11:39.760 personal history that made my choice really justifiable. Have you 1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:41.280 been hanging on to this for three and a half years? 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:46.200 I am this is a reckoning, Mr, this is a reckoning. 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:48.680 Now it's not even about the movies. It's about having 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:52.080 these great conversations with with people who are friends of 1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:54.360 mine sometimes and people who I don't know that I 1:11:54.439 --> 1:11:58.360 can connect with about movies and art and culture. And um, 1:11:59.000 --> 1:12:00.760 you were the first person to have on because it 1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:04.200 was it was just a no brainer for me to 1:12:04.880 --> 1:12:07.000 have someone on who has done a lot for me 1:12:07.080 --> 1:12:10.439 and my personal creative life. And I know I've told 1:12:10.439 --> 1:12:12.680 you that before, but you have always challenged me to 1:12:12.720 --> 1:12:15.240 do things I didn't think I could do. And uh, 1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:18.240 I know that will continue through the years with um 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:21.439 sketch Fest coming back back, which I'm so excited about. 1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:23.320 But I wanted to have you on here is the 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:25.640 last guest, and that you were actually the fact you 1:12:25.720 --> 1:12:28.960 were already scheduled. And then it's kind of been in 1:12:29.000 --> 1:12:31.320 the back of my head about ending the show, and 1:12:31.400 --> 1:12:33.160 then it kind of hit me out of the blue. 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:36.040 I was like, wait a minute, Janet's coming on. It's like, 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:38.160 I think this is it, Like this is a sign 1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:41.960 you'll just bookend it. An I can't thank you for that. 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:44.840 That means so much to me. I I can't even 1:12:44.880 --> 1:12:49.639 tell you why. Um, I that means that just means 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:52.240 the world to me, chuck, um, because I've been wanting 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:55.760 to do the show again and um and then dem 1:12:55.800 --> 1:12:58.639 old Cole like became you know the guy who comes 1:12:58.680 --> 1:13:00.120 on the show. So oh, I goes, he's you do 1:13:00.160 --> 1:13:01.720 He's gonna talk about defending your life. Great, now I 1:13:01.760 --> 1:13:04.160 can't talk about defending your life either, Thanks, Cole. Let's 1:13:04.200 --> 1:13:07.040 just keep cross him off all my favorite movies off less. 1:13:07.600 --> 1:13:10.360 Uh no, it's and it and it really you know, 1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:12.920 as you know, we were going to record earlier than this, 1:13:13.240 --> 1:13:15.639 and my mom passed away, and I was just sort 1:13:15.640 --> 1:13:18.559 of take, you know, pulling back because at any moment, 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:20.760 I didn't know when that feeling was going to bubble up, 1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:24.160 and it felt very very unpredictable, and it felt like 1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:30.680 a lot to put another person through. If I understand now, 1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:33.000 you know, you could have had the juicy your episode. 1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:35.760 If if we've done it, then uh and so and 1:13:36.000 --> 1:13:38.920 and so I'm really really glad that it that it 1:13:39.000 --> 1:13:41.200 did work out, because I don't know that you would 1:13:41.280 --> 1:13:45.760 necessarily have have thought, you know, oh right, I you know, 1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:48.040 Jan is probably wondering why I didn't follow up with 1:13:48.080 --> 1:13:50.040 her after her mom died to say are you ready yet? 1:13:50.080 --> 1:13:53.040 Are you ready yet. Um, well, i'd certainly is trying 1:13:53.080 --> 1:13:54.439 to give you space, and I knew it would come 1:13:54.439 --> 1:13:56.760 around at some point. Well, I just and then too, 1:13:56.960 --> 1:13:59.719 you know, I I just miss you guys. I can't 1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:02.640 believe of how much love I have and such a 1:14:02.720 --> 1:14:04.600 deep connection I have with friends that I mean, I 1:14:04.720 --> 1:14:09.080 can but um, you know I I I love you 1:14:09.160 --> 1:14:11.200 guys like you're my next door neighbors and we've lived 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:12.960 next to each other for ten years. I it's so 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:17.280 insane how much I would yeah, and and so you know, 1:14:17.600 --> 1:14:20.800 my it really it's very touching to me that you 1:14:20.800 --> 1:14:22.519 would that you would have me on and have it 1:14:22.640 --> 1:14:26.519 be the last episode. I don't I thank you and 1:14:27.200 --> 1:14:29.760 and and if you're and and if it's and if 1:14:29.800 --> 1:14:32.880 it feels good and like, yes, I'm I was ready 1:14:32.920 --> 1:14:34.439 to be do you know it's not like that. Obviously, 1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:36.720 no one's saying it's not a show that you that 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:38.640 you would have done forever that someone else was like, 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:42.000 we're a Paula blug buddy. Sorry, you know, to feel 1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:44.560 like that's the nice thing that's sort of representative of 1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:46.680 one of the nice things about podcasting is that you 1:14:46.760 --> 1:14:50.360 can go I think I'm good like this was great. 1:14:51.160 --> 1:14:53.240 This was great. On your terms, I'll probably do some 1:14:53.320 --> 1:14:55.600 episodes here and there when I feel like it. No, 1:14:55.880 --> 1:15:02.040 this is the last episode. What are you talking about? 1:15:02.080 --> 1:15:09.479 Don't undo what it? Asshole. I can't believe I did that. No, 1:15:09.640 --> 1:15:11.400 I've told people that I will do one off episodes 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:13.639 here and there. But how about this. Of course, after 1:15:13.800 --> 1:15:16.000 every one of those potential last episodes, I will have 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:20.080 you on to get and we'll have this moment again. 1:15:21.720 --> 1:15:25.880 Won't beat contrived? Mean a lot to me? You know what. 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:28.720 I'll even watch whatever movie it was that your other 1:15:28.760 --> 1:15:30.640 guests wanted to talk about, and you just tag me 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:33.120 on and we'll just do one minute's worth where I 1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:34.880 tell you my opinion of the movie, and then we 1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:38.879 spend the rest of the time saying, well, right, you're wonderful, 1:15:39.080 --> 1:15:46.479 this is great. What a run? Can you believe it? Uh? So, 1:15:46.600 --> 1:15:49.720 thank you, Janet Barney. Where what's what's the name of 1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:52.799 your podcast? Where can people find it? Uh? The Avatar 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:57.320 podcast is Avatar Braving the Elements. Uh. It is available 1:15:57.360 --> 1:15:59.840 anywhere you get podcasts. It is an I Heart Radio 1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:04.400 UH partnered presentation. But you can find it anywhere Stitcher, Apple, 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:07.360 all that good stuff and it comes out every Tuesday, 1:16:07.680 --> 1:16:12.160 and I do that again with Dante Bosco and uh. 1:16:12.240 --> 1:16:14.240 And then obviously the j V Club has been around, 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:16.439 Chuck's been on it more than once. I talked to 1:16:16.479 --> 1:16:19.760 people about their awkward teenage years. UM one of my 1:16:19.800 --> 1:16:22.759 favorite shows. It's a very it's very very fun again 1:16:22.840 --> 1:16:25.479 like movie Crush, It's like, yeah, the premises, we talked 1:16:25.479 --> 1:16:27.880 about this, but it's really just about getting to know 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:30.400 someone and getting a chance to hang out. Um. And 1:16:30.560 --> 1:16:33.280 then and then I do an improvised space comedy podcast 1:16:33.400 --> 1:16:36.240 called Voyage to the Stars with Kirsten vangs Nous from 1:16:36.280 --> 1:16:40.479 Criminal Minds, Felicia Day, Colton Dunne, Steve Berg and oh 1:16:40.560 --> 1:16:42.960 you didn't. Oh we've been like, we've just finished recording 1:16:42.960 --> 1:16:46.559 our third season, but only two seasons I think are out. Um. Yeah, 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:49.360 we were on a We're on a mad cap adventure, 1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:51.439 a bunch of people thrown together. I am not even 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:53.719 a person. I'm an AI on a ship that eventually 1:16:53.800 --> 1:16:57.760 gets a robot body. Uh and uh, and have a 1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:01.760 bunch of uncomfortable space missive tuers that UM most often 1:17:01.800 --> 1:17:05.400 results in as accidentally destroying a planet as we try 1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:07.960 to navigate back to Earth. I got to check that out. 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:09.640 You should look because it's of course a ton of 1:17:09.760 --> 1:17:13.559 your favorite people are the guests of it too. All right, Janet, Well, 1:17:13.560 --> 1:17:16.639 I can't wait to see you hopefully next January sketch 1:17:16.720 --> 1:17:19.360 Fest and hug your neck and get Brandon and Emily 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:22.360 and all of us together again. Yes, please, I need it. 1:17:22.520 --> 1:17:25.560 My soul needs it. My soul needs it too, And 1:17:25.640 --> 1:17:29.400 I'm so glad again to have been the very very final, 1:17:31.040 --> 1:17:36.000 final final episode of the movie Crush. Final episode. All right, 1:17:36.000 --> 1:17:38.080 I'm gonna let you have the last even word, So 1:17:38.240 --> 1:17:42.400 go ahead, what's your final word? Final episode? One word 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:53.479 by Janet? All right, everybody, that was it. I hope 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:56.200 you like that as much as I did. I had 1:17:56.240 --> 1:17:59.120 such a good time talking to Janet. She's just you know, 1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:01.760 she's she's the best. I've said it before. I know 1:18:01.800 --> 1:18:03.479 you're tired of me saying that she's the best, but 1:18:03.600 --> 1:18:05.640 she really is. If you knew her, you'd say the 1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:08.840 same thing. So big thanks to Janet for for coming 1:18:08.920 --> 1:18:13.400 back and wrapping up the regular weekly interview editions with me. 1:18:14.720 --> 1:18:17.439 Thanks to Janet for kicking off the show three and 1:18:17.520 --> 1:18:22.240 a half years ago with Tron and uh boy, It's 1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:24.960 It's been a lot of fun in between, and book 1:18:25.080 --> 1:18:27.120 ending this with Janet means a lot to me, so 1:18:27.760 --> 1:18:30.080 big thanks to her. So I hope you all enjoyed it, 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:32.439 and I hope you take care of yourselves. This is 1:18:32.560 --> 1:18:35.439 not the end. Look for episodes here and there, everyone, 1:18:36.200 --> 1:18:39.960 They'll be coming at you with some regularity. But I 1:18:40.080 --> 1:18:41.880 love you all and I thank you all. Look for 1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:46.519 a very special supersized mini crush coming up soon as 1:18:46.520 --> 1:18:48.679 soon as I can lick this covid and get everybody 1:18:48.720 --> 1:18:51.040 in the can that I wanted to And you're really 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:54.000 gonna enjoy that. One's a lot of fun. So be well, 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:57.479 take care of yourselves, get backs, and continue to wear 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:02.680 those masks everyone. Movie Crash is produced and written by 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:05.880 Charles Bryant and Meel Brown, edited and engineered by Seth 1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:09.000 Nicholas Johnson, and scored by Noel Brown here in our 1:19:09.080 --> 1:19:12.679 home studio at Pontsty Market, Atlanta, Georgia. 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