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Speaker 1: Stacy rost As always getting you guys ready for the

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Speaker 1: seahawks upcoming game. This one the season finale against the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, a game on the road, plenty to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Although it probably is good that we acknowledge now that

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Speaker 1: it's the final huddle, and guys, I'm really gonna miss

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Speaker 1: it because we always have fun and we have plenty

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Speaker 1: of fun in store for you still today we're going

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Speaker 1: to try to make it a great two hours, a

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Speaker 1: great final two hours. Here Carrie Hyder Jr. He's going

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Speaker 1: to join us at twelve thirty, Carlos Dunlap joining us

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Speaker 1: at twelve forty five, an hour two starting at one,

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Speaker 1: we've got back to back to back guests, including two

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Speaker 1: of our faves, Ray Roberts and the voice of the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: Steve Rabel. Before we look ahead, you guys, let's look

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Speaker 1: back at Detroit, where the Seahawks in their home finale,

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Speaker 1: gotta win. Dave, I'll start with you the most obvious

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Speaker 1: question heading out of this one, what can you take

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Speaker 1: from a win over a two win team? Well, I look,

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Speaker 1: it's different for the players. We talked to Ryan Neil

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Speaker 1: film is a bunch of guys that are ballers. These

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Speaker 1: you go back and look at Okay, they whooped up

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, look, you kind of did to

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Speaker 1: They didn't get that done with the Bears, and that's

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Speaker 1: a testament to the fact that you know, you've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of really good players. They're not the best.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a franchise quarterback. You know, they don't

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Speaker 1: have lots of things that you know, the winning teams

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Speaker 1: it's an incredible challenge each and every week. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought the fact that they put fifty on Detroit,

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Speaker 1: those three guys I thought played really well. Penny just

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Speaker 1: the opportunity here for the Seahawks, they have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: You know, on that interview we had with Ryan Neil,

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Speaker 1: you said, he's just he's had a hard time getting

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Speaker 1: on the field with the linebackers ahead of him, and

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Speaker 1: he's always been this great special teams player, but it'd

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Speaker 1: be cool for him to get a little more some

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Speaker 1: more reps if possible. He is John Boyle, reporter for

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. You can read his work at seahawks dot

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Speaker 1: com and hear him during the season on the huddle

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Speaker 1: on Thursdays. Except this is our last one. So John,

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Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure to talk to you. We will

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Speaker 1: miss you, and here's to talk to you next year. Actus.

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Speaker 1: You know, to reminisce in the off season, absolutely, but

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Speaker 1: we'll reminisce about your conversations with us on the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Not nothing to do with the bye. John, all right,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the huddle if you're just now joining us.

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Speaker 1: That news breaking from the Seahawks. The Seahawks to play

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Speaker 1: safety Ryan Neil on the COVID Night teen List. I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys about what that might mean for

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Speaker 1: the defensive backs a bit later. They've also activated This

445
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Speaker 1: is the good news, guard Damian Lewis and cornerback Sydney

446
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Speaker 1: Jones coming up next. Back to back interviews. We'll start

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Speaker 1: with Carrie Hyder Jr. And then get to Carlos Dunlap

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Speaker 1: This is the huddle. You are listening to the huddle

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Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross. We're waiting

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Speaker 1: on Seahawks practice to end. Gonna talk to Carrie Hyder

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Speaker 1: and then we'll talk to Carlos Dunlap. Excited for both

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Speaker 1: of those interviews before we get to them, though, you guys, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Seahawks have placed safety Ryan Neil

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Speaker 1: on the COVID list. He was playing in place of

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. How does that shuffle up the defensive back group,

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Speaker 1: presumably the starters for this weekend light on safeties, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm not sure what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they can move Sidney Jones in, you know, I

459
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Speaker 1: mean he's a very physical corner. But or you know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna, you know, maybe activate the kid off the

461
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Speaker 1: practice squad, is it Josh Johnson? Yes, Yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's really tough, and especially going against this team.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Arizona, They're they're top ten and almost

464
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Speaker 1: everything and number four in turnover ratio. You look at

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Speaker 1: you know, again, we talked to their sideline reporter and

466
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Speaker 1: he was saying, how that Detroit loss was really a

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Speaker 1: wake up call. You know, they lost to Carolina. I

468
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Speaker 1: mean if that was here in Seattle, we'd be going, Hey,

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Speaker 1: at least it happened in the regular season. We got

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Speaker 1: the wake up call, not in the playoffs, So I

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Speaker 1: think they're ready. That was a really good win against Dallas. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a tough team. It's not a

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Speaker 1: team you want to go into being light in your

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Speaker 1: defensive backfield. No, absolutely not. And uh, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: joined here in just one second. Here he is Carrie

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Speaker 1: Hyder Junior and joining us right now. Carrie, how's it going.

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Speaker 1: We're fantastic. We're in fact previewing what's in store for

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Speaker 1: you guys heading into this season finale against Arizona. What

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Speaker 1: do you see from this Arizona offense? Explosives? You know,

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Speaker 1: they they're they're a really good team. They have players

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Speaker 1: at every level. It's gonna be it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: nice game to uh end on with a with a

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Speaker 1: with a good performance by us. You know, we want

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Speaker 1: to end the season strong and we just want to

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Speaker 1: we just want to leave with some momentum at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. Hey, Kerry, I think we all

487
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Speaker 1: know how how difficult it is. But for a defensive

488
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Speaker 1: lineman talk about defending a guy like Kyler Murray. I

489
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Speaker 1: mean I always say he's like an extra meeting guy,

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Speaker 1: right because he can ron. He's pretty he's really accurate too.

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Speaker 1: To go to the one of the biggest challenges with

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, uh a little question. He's obviously seen an

493
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Speaker 1: amazing athlete, but it takes a whole team. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not just not only just the D line, but

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Speaker 1: the guys in the back end. And it don't take

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Speaker 1: a group effort just to you know, show that guy

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Speaker 1: down and try to corral on when he tried to

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Speaker 1: take off with his legs. You know, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that kind of gets better when he gets out of

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Speaker 1: the pocket, and he mixed plays and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: So we just at the defense, we want to trying

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Speaker 1: to limit the plays he's gonna he's gonna make, and

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Speaker 1: you know, do our do our part to try to

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Speaker 1: keep them bottled up. Now, Carrie, you know what did

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Speaker 1: the other aspect of the Arizona Cardinals and what they changed?

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Speaker 1: You know, Kyler Murray certainly there, but they they've had

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Speaker 1: a pretty solid running game to go along with uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the normal passing attack led by Kyler Murray. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know Chase ed Man's James Connor. What do you

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Speaker 1: see from from those two guys at those two backs

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Speaker 1: that make it uh difficult to defend? Well? They compliment

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Speaker 1: each other really well, you know, Uh, James the bigger

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Speaker 1: guy and the Chase comes in a really fast guy

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Speaker 1: and change the change of speed. So they're playing really

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Speaker 1: well this season. And uh, as a defense, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to give them everything. We don't want them to

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Speaker 1: bid a running the ball and throw the ball. You know.

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Speaker 1: We want to try to make the one dimension we

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Speaker 1: can't and try to have a good showing. You know,

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Speaker 1: guys are good, but I feel like on defense we

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Speaker 1: can we get slowing down. You guys have excelled with

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Speaker 1: slowing down opposing offenses in the red zone, limiting scoring.

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Speaker 1: You've been one of the top teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: How does your mindset personally change when you get inside

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Speaker 1: the twenty. We just we don't want to let people

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Speaker 1: get in our end zone. You know, we want when

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Speaker 1: they get down there, we know points how you win games.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can limit their opportunities and limit their points.

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Speaker 1: We can we have a change of opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: in the game. So when God when teams to get

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Speaker 1: down there and try to buckle up and try to

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Speaker 1: and try to focus zone or guitask at him and

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Speaker 1: try to keep him out the end zone. Hey, carry uh.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Ryan Neil yesterday and you know, he

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Speaker 1: was saying, how, hey, this is one of those games

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Speaker 1: where you're playing for you guys obviously, or not playing

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Speaker 1: for you know, a winning record or or a playoff,

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Speaker 1: but you know, just the motivation for guys, and you know,

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Speaker 1: for you personally going into a game like this, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything on the scoreboard, but it means

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Speaker 1: a lot to your pride and things like that speak

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Speaker 1: speak to that a little bit about how how you

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Speaker 1: feel going into this game. We don't we don't take

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Speaker 1: it for granted. You know, being in the NFL is

545
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: not like something that's guaranteed, you know, So whenever you

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to put your pads on and be

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Speaker 1: on the field, you want you want to be a professional.

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Speaker 1: You want to have a good show. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as football players, all we have is our tape, you know,

550
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Speaker 1: that's our resume, so we never want to put bad

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Speaker 1: tape out there, no matter the situation. So we have

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Speaker 1: a lot to play for. I know we're not going

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs, but as a team and as individuals,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of pride and we also have

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Speaker 1: a lot of professionalism throughout our buildings, so we're always

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Speaker 1: want to go out there and give it all. Kerry,

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Speaker 1: what has the adjustment been like throughout the year is

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Speaker 1: you know, defensively, you guys have worked through your scheme, uh,

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Speaker 1: from a defensive line perspective, from a defensive front, and

560
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Speaker 1: how much of a challenge or unique opportunity that has

561
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Speaker 1: been to try and figure out how to best you know,

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Speaker 1: play within those changes along the defensive line, you know,

563
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Speaker 1: moving from a traditional four down structure to you know

564
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Speaker 1: maybe going with you know, bigger body packages from times

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Speaker 1: you guys do a lot from a defensive front perspective,

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Speaker 1: we're just being able to adjust and uh, you got

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Speaker 1: to be able to adjust and you got to be coachable.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna try to put guys in the

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Speaker 1: best tradition to succeed, and uh, they're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: get guys in situations where they can help the team.

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Speaker 1: So you just gotta be a team player and you

572
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: got to be able to jet some the fly. You know,

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Speaker 1: whatever we're doing, it's for the betterment of the team.

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Speaker 1: So you just try to do your part and do

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Speaker 1: whatever you can to help out. Hey, Carrie, congratulations is

576
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Speaker 1: in order. You and your wife welcomed your second child,

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Speaker 1: a baby girl, in December, so congratulations from us. But

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Speaker 1: also your wife tweeted that you delivered the baby. What's

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Speaker 1: the story behind us? Yeah, so we we had a

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Speaker 1: home birth, so we did everything at home. We had

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Speaker 1: a duel in a midwife president, but I will in

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Speaker 1: one kind of I caught you know, receiver. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was the one that was helping her through the process

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Speaker 1: and catching the baby. And I announced it with the girl.

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Speaker 1: And how does it feel with baby number two? Now,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. I'm a girl dad. You know, I'm officially

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Speaker 1: I had one daughter, but now I'm officially a girl dad.

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Speaker 1: I got two girls. So well I'm excited. You know, Terry,

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Speaker 1: where does that rank, like as far as nerves, you know,

590
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Speaker 1: going into like a game versus delivering. Now, I've never

591
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Speaker 1: been that nervous in my life, Like, you know, I

592
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: know some people don't like hospitals, but you like the

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Speaker 1: comfort of being like in the hospital with doctors and

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So just I just remember that

595
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Speaker 1: we've been delivering babies since the beginning of time. You know,

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Speaker 1: I have to go in with an open mindset, and

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Speaker 1: honestly me, I wouldn't change it for the world. I'm

598
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Speaker 1: so happy I was able to experience that with my

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Speaker 1: family at home. Well it worked out. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: everyone is happy and healthy, and congratulations from us and

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Speaker 1: good luck this Sunday. Thank you. I appreciate you guys.

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00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Thanks Jared. He is Carry Hyder Junior working.

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Speaker 1: Come right back with an interview with Carlos Dunlap. This

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Speaker 1: is the Huddle. Don't go anywhere. You are listening to

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Speaker 1: the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps and Stacy Ross.

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Speaker 1: We just spoke with Carrie Hyder June. You're waiting on

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Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap and then we've got some some fun kind

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Speaker 1: of expert conversation to get to an hour two. While

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Speaker 1: we're waiting on Carlos Dunlap. Out of curiosity, Dave, I

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Speaker 1: have a question for you. Yeah, does not having Bobby

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Speaker 1: Wagner or your regular starting middle linebacker out there, change

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Speaker 1: anything outside of like calls, I know, for like defensive

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Speaker 1: ends or defensive lineman. How might it be different for them? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know the NFL. I mean, it's gonna be weird

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Speaker 1: without Bobby. Obviously he's different, but you know, there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of change over you know, as far as

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Speaker 1: guys that have been here, you know, three four years.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is you just get so used to

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Speaker 1: the next guy up, and I know, you know, for us,

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Speaker 1: we're like, oh, geez, the backup's got to play this game.

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Speaker 1: When you're in the locker room, you're like, yeah, I've

622
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Speaker 1: seen this guy play a million times. He's he's a

623
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Speaker 1: good player, you know, and he's let's go, let's go

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Speaker 1: with the second guy. Get the next best guy in there.

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00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: And that's that came from Chuck. I won't say the

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Speaker 1: term that he used to use, but he used to say,

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Speaker 1: get the next bleep and bleep in there, you know,

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Speaker 1: And that was kind of like a you know, his

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Speaker 1: way of saying, it's not a big deal. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: we everybody's practice, we all know the scheme everything, second

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Speaker 1: second guy going in, Okay, let's go. Let's get it done, Jake.

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Speaker 1: When you're looking at just the performance from Carlos Dunlap,

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Speaker 1: I'm switching gears, but we're gonna talk with Carlos Dunlap.

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Speaker 1: It's been very weird, like very kind of limited snaps.

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Speaker 1: In the middle part of the season. It seemed like, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Seahawks are saving his legs a little bit,

637
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: maybe they're trying to get younger guys out there. And

638
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: then when he got more snaps, he had what five

639
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: sacks in two games. Yeah, there's it's a very unique

640
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: situation because when you talk about the beginning of the year,

641
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: I believe they went out there and they thought that, hey,

642
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: if we can just go back to our traditional way

643
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: of just rushing for in a traditional sense, we're going

644
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: to get great production. And that didn't happen. And so

645
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: once they were not getting that production and you didn't

646
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: see that same level of play, then you tried to

647
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: make adjustments and tried to figure out what you can

648
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: do well and make those adjustments with your defense affront,

649
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: and it just it really limited the ability from a

650
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: pass rushing perspective to get the best out of the

651
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: guys that you have and I believe they went back

652
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: and gave Carlos more opportunity, more run in the second half,

653
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: and he's responded well to it, and I believe matchups

654
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: played favorably, and it's been great to see that level

655
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: of production. All Right, speaking of Carlos Dunlap joining us

656
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: right now on the huddle. Carlos, how's it going on?

657
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: Pretty good? How are you? I'm well, thanks for asking.

658
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: We're previewing the game and we're looking ahead, and I've

659
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: got some questions about the Cardinals, but before I do

660
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: any of that, it's been pretty cool to see you

661
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of increase production as you've gotten more snap counts.

662
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Is it's something that you felt like you were getting

663
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: healthier or that you felt like you just needed the opportunities.

664
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: I just feel like I've been seizing the opportunities. Really

665
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: um starting to come together, and us as a collectives

666
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: have been playing you know, better football just lay half

667
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: of the season. So yeah, you know, Carlos, I was

668
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: looking at like, you know, you had the Washington game,

669
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: four snaps, seven snaps against San Francisco, but man, you

670
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: got to sack a pass defense. I mean, just, uh,

671
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: can you remember anything specifically? That that kind of clicked

672
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: for you or in this defense, or because the production

673
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: for you has been, you know, really good lately. Um,

674
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I think you know what game was at Washington or

675
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: whichever game was that, uh had a lot of production

676
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: and very little snaps. So you know, UH in in

677
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: in their opportunity, I mean, in their perspective, they they

678
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: reopened like let's give them more snaps. Yeah. So and

679
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: with more snaps and with more snaps, more production. So

680
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: I feel like they go hand in hand. It's a

681
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: lot easier getting rhythm when you can get in rhythm. Yeah. Yeah,

682
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. Carlos, and this is you

683
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: are no stranger to that, as you have played for

684
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: a long time in this league and has had so

685
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: much production over the course of your career. What was

686
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: that like? You know, as I watched the film and

687
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: watched the evolution of the defense over time over the year,

688
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: you guys have done a lot of different things with

689
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: your defensive fronts, and you have specifically talked about, you know,

690
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: some of the new things that you've been asked to do,

691
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: the new role that you've been you've been playing. You

692
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: feel like you've been getting a chance to get back

693
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: to more of the type of player and the type

694
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: of role that you've always been in your career in

695
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and last year absolutely the majority of my production

696
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: has came in situation of the scenarios when I'm on

697
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: the edge doing what I've done my whole career. Rusus. No.

698
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: Early in the season, you know, we were mixing up

699
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: different looks because we had a bunch of guys and

700
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to find roles and positions for everybody.

701
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: But you know, as a season settled in, you know,

702
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: they started they got a better understanding of, you know,

703
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: what we were good at, and they started playing to

704
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: players strengths, and well, if that you see my strengths

705
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: sign Brew Carlos, How excited are you to have one

706
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: more opportunity to continue to keep showing that through You know,

707
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: film is your resume, right, It's everybody's resume out there,

708
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: and you've been really you know, adding a lot to

709
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: the resume that you have, the tremendous resume that you

710
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: already have. You know, in the last you know how

711
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: it Romni games, four or five games in particular, how

712
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: much are you looking forward to doing that against a

713
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: really good team against the Arizona Cardinals. And I know

714
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: it's not any implications for playoffs for you guys, unfortunately,

715
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: but certainly one opportunity to get after a really good opponent,

716
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: a really good team. Yeah. For I mean, this is

717
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: just this is not just another opportunity. This is you know,

718
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: the last opportunity. So this for me is my super Bowl.

719
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: So you know, I really want to get after these boys.

720
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Their their division opponent, and they're a really good football team.

721
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: So you know, we haven't played our best football all

722
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: year and that's clearly why we're out of the playoffs.

723
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: But we got an opportunity to play a really good

724
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: football team one last time and for the last game

725
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: of the season. So I want to you know, last

726
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: week was our first it was our last home game

727
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: of twenty one season and the first home game of

728
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: the twenty two seasons. So here we got our first

729
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: really good opponent in twenty two and you get to

730
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: see how we stake up against them and their arrival.

731
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: So so you've got all kinds of steaks and storylines,

732
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: whatever you want to spend it, how you guys spend it. Yeah,

733
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: but we're just looking forward to the opportunity to play

734
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: a division opponent. Um, and we're gonna give it our all. Hey, Carlos,

735
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: everyone always talks about how frustrating it can be to

736
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: play Kyler Murray. Who's the best quarterback you've ever faced? Well,

737
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: obviously it's clear the man in the arena is Brady.

738
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: But I was fortunate enough to you know, get Tom Brady,

739
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: to get Peyton Manning, and to get Aaron Rodgers. Um.

740
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to get Vic. I got

741
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: him in the preseason. You know. But there's a lot

742
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: of really great quarterbacks out there, but the guys who

743
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: really take over the game, you know, that's the man

744
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: in the arena. So you've sat Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers,

745
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning. Yeah, no big deal. I've been keeping

746
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: I've been you know, at this point in my career.

747
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I went back and tallied up my resume. I think

748
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I have uh uh was it eighty eighty four sacks

749
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: and fifty two different quarterbacks or something like that. I

750
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: think they said something like that. I think it's like

751
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: fifty eight or fifty nine. Actually, did Carlos, did you

752
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: see this thing over the weekend where the kid picked

753
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: off Tom Brady and then came and asked him for

754
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: an autumn I know, I know that was awkward. That

755
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: was awkward, but that was you know, paying homage. That

756
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: was paying hommage. I'm glad Brady you know, signed it

757
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: for him and respectable to do it for it. I

758
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: just speak the type of person Brady was. But that

759
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: had been awkward, Like I don't want to, I don't

760
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: want to glorify one of my mistakes. But at the

761
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, Tom Brady has done

762
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: a lot of great things since his career. So for

763
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: a young player to you know, who probably was a

764
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: kid when Tom Brady started winning Super Bowls to get

765
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: to the league and to get a pick on him,

766
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: that's a really big deal to him. And it's really

767
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: cool to see that Tom Brady was president enough to

768
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: technoledge that sign that for him. But it's a good

769
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: thing he put his step. He's not going to do

770
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: that frequently because he would open the whole kind of

771
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: worms on that. Well, he said, that's the last one.

772
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that personal. Yeah, yeah, he had to otherwise,

773
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's not the last pick. He's going through them.

774
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: So you don't want everybody coming run over there and

775
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: doing that. You don't want to start that. So you

776
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: know the val he goes up on that ball and

777
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: he got Carlos real quick. I saw that you had

778
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: a chance to sit down and actually took the time

779
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: to sit down and watch a movie that Russell Wilson

780
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: was an executive producer for National Champions. He said, you

781
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: were going to have your review. What's the word? It

782
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: was a very suspenseful movie, was very insightful to what's

783
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: going on in the league. And I mean, well that

784
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: process of what happens with college football. But you get

785
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: to see the different ebbs and flows, and you know

786
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: the power that the game has and the players have,

787
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: and and some of the stats that the kid was

788
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: bringing up. I wasn't aware of it. I didn't think

789
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: about but um, you know, it's a real thing, you know,

790
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: cause there's a lot of college football players who who

791
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: played college football at a high enough level that they

792
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: bring these colleges, you know, fortunes of money, and then

793
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: they're back at home in their hometown looking for a

794
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: job and you know, trying to figure out where they're

795
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: going to get their medical insurance and all those type

796
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: of things. Too. You know, you know, same things with

797
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: the league with former players. But you know, think about

798
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: the college. They really don't have no no, they don't

799
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: have no four oh one k they don't have The

800
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: clubs aren't contributing to that, all that type of stuff.

801
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I didn't even think about some

802
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: of those things in that perspective. And here I am

803
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: telling the whole movie. I'm sorry. We could have this

804
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: conversation endlessly. We're up against the clock. We have to

805
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: let you go. You're busy, but but we do appreciate

806
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: the time. Man and good lucke this weekend. Sorry to

807
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: whoever wants to watch the movie. Hopefully I didn't spoil it.

808
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: Still watch it, thanks car. All right, our two here

809
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Ray Robert, Steve raybel lots

810
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: of good stuff coming up. Don't go anywhere. This is

811
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: the huddle. You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman,

812
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross. Let's go on the trenches

813
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: with Ray Roberts. Ray. How's it going. I'm doing pretty good.

814
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing? We are well. Seahawks got

815
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: good news and bad news today. Safety Ryan Neil placed

816
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: on the COVID list, but guard Damian Lewis and cornerback

817
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: Sitting Jones do come back. Let's focus on Damian Lewis because, Ray,

818
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: this offensive line not only is it banged up, but

819
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: a couple guys dealing with illness yesterday. I am very

820
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: nervous for this game against Arizona when it comes to

821
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: the health of the OH line. How about you, Yeah,

822
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: just a little bit, you know, And Damian Lewis has

823
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: been a guy that's been in and out of the

824
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: lineup all year, whether it's you know, COVID related or

825
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: just you know, injury related, and he hasn't quite really

826
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: gotten into his groove the way that we've thought he

827
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: would beat that that he would this year. And so

828
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, with with the moving parts in and out,

829
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: Brendan Shell in and out, Gabe Jackson, his missis time,

830
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: all those different kinds of things. But the last few

831
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: weeks they've been able to muster up, you know, whatever

832
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: it takes to create a good running game and protect

833
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: Russell in the way that that the team has played

834
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: well on offense. Who stood out to you, Ray, I was,

835
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: like I wrote down as I was watching the run game,

836
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I got a little asterisk there.

837
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: The ask ray, I looked like Phil Haynes played well,

838
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: I thought, Ethan is it looks like he's playing some

839
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: of his best football. But Jake Curran also, I mean,

840
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent rookie, pretty amazing, although he's going

841
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: to be in for a pretty tall uh tall order

842
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah, who's really impressed with Phil Haynes just

843
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: because I mean, it's been waiting for a long time

844
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: to see him. You know, when he when he came

845
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: out of college. You know, I thought he was like

846
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: a more athletic kind of DJ Slucker type dude who

847
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: could just be a big, strong do that mauls people.

848
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: But he had a little bit better technique. But he's

849
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: just been so beat up and having had an opportunity

850
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: to play, and so it was really good to see

851
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: him come in. And the thing I like about him

852
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: is his technique was really good. Like the footwork, like

853
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people say like, oh man, this guy

854
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: made a great block, but they have no idea how

855
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: the block actually came to be great, And so just

856
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: watching his footwork and his hand placed him in his

857
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: pad level has been awesome. But the but Jake Karen

858
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: has been the dude that has really impressed me the most,

859
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: and not because he's the most gifted athletic you know,

860
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: technical offensive linement in the history the world. But the

861
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: dude just has grit. He he gets in, he does,

862
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: he plays the dirty, he does the dirty work. He

863
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: battles the entire time, he finds a way to keep

864
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: himself if against you know, more athletic pass rushers. And

865
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: then in the run game, I love the way that

866
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: he mauls the dudes in front of him, but he

867
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: can also get up to the second level and maintain

868
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: flocks long enough to create creases for the running back.

869
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: So I've been really impressed with him just from a

870
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: pure football player perspective. Now, if you wanted me to,

871
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, match up this technique and scale and all

872
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: that to other people, it probably won't match up. But

873
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: just from just Jake the football player, love him, Yeah,

874
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely. And that's the thing is, Look, in

875
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 1: this situation where it's next man up, you're bakers, can't

876
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: be choosers. And the thing that Kurran's bringing to you,

877
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 1: he's bringing a ton of effort and like you said,

878
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: a ton of grit and he is moving people right,

879
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: He's he's helping you know, as you've said before to us, Ray,

880
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: you know that six inch battle, you know, Jake is

881
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: definitely helping. Jake Kurran is helping win that battle on

882
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: a consistent basis. And now, Ray, what have you seen

883
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: not just from an individual perspective from the offensive line,

884
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: but as a unit. I mean they they not only

885
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: are doing a good job, you know, working together, but

886
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: they seem to be opening just enough holes for Rashad

887
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: Penny where he's hitting the hole pretty confidently and trusting

888
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: this group. Yeah, and it's it's unfortunate that it has

889
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: taken this long, uh for this offensive line to perform

890
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: this way. But you know, as I went back and

891
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: watched the film of last week, the one thing that

892
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: I really did notice is that when you're running the

893
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: zone schemes, the double teams are unbelievably important. And the

894
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: person who has to set the usually as to if

895
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: you run into the right, it's going to be the

896
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: guard setting the double team, you know, with the center

897
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: or then sometimes you know you have the tackle and

898
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: the guards on the back side. But the footwork that

899
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: it takes to get your shoulders at the right angle

900
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: to get your leverage at the at the right spot

901
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: so that you can then work up to the second level.

902
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Has been as best as I've seen it here in

903
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: a long long time. Over the last two or three weeks,

904
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: the guards are doing a great job of getting turning

905
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: the shoulders of the defender versus having their shoulders turn.

906
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: I wish I could show it to your own film,

907
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: but it's basically like I can see you it now. Yeah,

908
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: it's like you want to you want to take the

909
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: defender and open his shoulder up like you're opening the door,

910
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: and then that allows the second person then on the

911
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: double team. It allows them to get in and take

912
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: over the double team, and then you can kind of

913
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: slot up to the next level. If the guard has

914
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: his shoulder opened up like the door, then they split

915
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: the double team. You tend to not get any movement

916
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 1: and then they stop the running play. And so that

917
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: has been the best I've seen it around here in

918
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: a long time, especially in this last game. So they

919
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: were able to get those double teams to create those

920
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: creases to get pinning to the second level, and then

921
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: Penny has been running through arm tackles. The tackles have

922
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: been getting up to the next level. Phil, you know,

923
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Phil Haynes had a couple of good blocks where he

924
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: got up to the second level, and that's what really

925
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: opens up the running game is when you're able to

926
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: do that. Ray. So, I mean, this may be I

927
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: want to focus on the good here, but at the

928
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: same time, I also am curious to get your perspective

929
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: on this. They are working better together, Things seem to

930
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: be clicking right now. How much of it do you see?

931
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Is this group, you know, just trying to finish the

932
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: season strong, And how much of this group can you

933
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: maintain and keep together going into going into next year

934
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: and you know, legitimately getting that production, you know, for

935
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: a full seventeen week season. Yeah, I honestly like you

936
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: know me, Jake, I've always defended the offensive line and

937
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: the different guys they have up there and and whatever

938
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: processes he Alas have gone through to get them to

939
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: get them there. But I don't think that this the

940
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: offensive line it's going to finish the year. It's going

941
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: to be the line that starts the year. Next year.

942
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: I think there's probably gonna be uh some movement at

943
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: center and even as well as Jake's planet at right tackle.

944
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: I think they still need to bring in an upgrade

945
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to create some competition at that spot because he

946
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: does have some limitations. But and so I think though

947
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: that you know, coming down the stretch here, um, you

948
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: know your back is against the wall. You have nothing

949
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: else to do but come out and try to play

950
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: as best you can. And uh, and they just have

951
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: seemed to find a rhythm. And I'll keep saying it

952
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over that Rashard Penny

953
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: has really energized the offensive line and the offense in

954
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: a way that nobody saw coming. And I think the

955
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: way that he's running the ball, the way he's finished

956
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: running strong, the way he's picked up blitz, picked up

957
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: all those different kind of things. I've said it for

958
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: two or three weeks now that if you watch when

959
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: he scores a touchdown, every single person from the offense

960
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: is in the in the end zone tapping him on

961
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: the helmet like sometimes I'm not gonna lie Barry saying

962
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown, I'm going to the sideline. I'm

963
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: going right to the auction machine. That's because he was

964
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: eighty yards away, right, I mean and it's not. It

965
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: is not because I don't want to celebrate. It's just like, dude,

966
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: I'm dog tired and I'm going to do But if

967
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: you watch, when you watch Penny, every single dude, the

968
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: tight ends, the receivers, the quarterback, all the offensive linement,

969
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: they're all down at pat Mount helmet. And I think

970
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: that that has energized the offensive line in the way

971
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: that day. Like I said before, they just grit a

972
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: little longer, they strained a little bit harder. They finished

973
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: a little bit at a little bit more intensity, and

974
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: you can see them open up the lanes for the

975
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: running game. All right. That was in the trenches with

976
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: Ray Roberts. You can hear Ray on the Seahawks pre

977
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: and postgame show this Sunday. Ray, thanks for joining us. Yeah,

978
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 1: thanks for having you guys. Have a good one. Thanks.

979
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it all year and looking forward to keeping

980
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: it going same. We can't wait for next year. Thanks Ray.

981
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: All right. The Voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, joins

982
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: us next on the Huddle. This is the Huddle with

983
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jake Heaps, and Stacy Ross joining us now.

984
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: The Voice of the Seahawks Steve Rabel raves, how's it

985
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: going going? Great? Guys? How are you? We're well, I

986
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: mean kind of sad. We're getting ready for the season

987
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: finale here and there is no postseason. It's the last

988
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: time that we'll watch the Seahawks take the field this season,

989
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: the last time we'll talk to you and John Boyle

990
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: and Ray Roberts. And it's a bummer. Although if I'm

991
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: talking about what you're maybe still looking forward to, still

992
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: getting excited about to see in this one, what would

993
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: you say, well, to see if the if if all

994
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the things that we saw in the last couple of weeks,

995
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: albeit against some lesser opponents, but certainly the way the

996
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Seahawks offensively have run the football, offensive line has played well. Um,

997
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: if those kind of things continue against a really good team,

998
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: against the playoff team, against arguably one of the best

999
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: teams in UH in the NFC West, then then we

1000
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: know we've got some some things to build on for

1001
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: next season. Um. You know, I'd like to see the

1002
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: defense get off the field. Uh, this is a tough

1003
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: offense to play against. They've got a lot of weapons,

1004
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: they can run, they can throw, and of course Kyler

1005
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: Murray is A is a video game out there, but

1006
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, all those things we'd like to see in

1007
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: this in this final game, and I think it will

1008
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: give us a sense for kind of how it's not

1009
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: going to be a rebuild, I don't think, but a

1010
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: retool might happen during the offseason. Well, speaking of that,

1011
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: RAB just talk about a little bit about what Bobby

1012
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: Wagner means. And I'm not trying to eulogize him or anything,

1013
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: because look, he could be back next year, you don't know.

1014
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: But you know, we don't know if he's going to

1015
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: play this weekend. So what do you think, first of all,

1016
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: as far as you know him playing this weekend, and

1017
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, just a little brief synopsis of what Bobby

1018
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: has meant to this team. Yeah, well I would love

1019
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: to say that, Hey, as he has said, listen, I'm

1020
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: going to do everything I can do to get out

1021
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: there and play. And we know he will short of

1022
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 1: you know, living in a hyperbaric chamber and having a

1023
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: full medical staff at his place twenty four to seven,

1024
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: I think he'll do everything he can do to get

1025
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: out there. It's gonna be tough if if the reports

1026
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: are to be believed that he sprained his MCL and

1027
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: his PCL. They you know, the team hasn't actually come

1028
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: out and said anything like that, but it's going to

1029
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: be difficult for him to get back there and play.

1030
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: And all that said, it is kind of sad that,

1031
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: you know, we don't get a chance to see him

1032
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: in one final game. It is though, Dave, as you know,

1033
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: and if anybody who follows this game knows how sudden

1034
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: things can change and how quickly your career, if not

1035
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: for the season or maybe your entire career, can end

1036
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: on a note that you don't want it to end on,

1037
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: but sometimes you just don't have any choice. I prefer

1038
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: to think that Bobby Wagner will find a way to

1039
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: be back next year, whether it's financially or whatever, but

1040
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: he can find a way to be back and play

1041
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: with this team and help them get back to the

1042
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: playoffs because he has been such a just such a

1043
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: terrific football player over the last decade. Rapes, I'd love

1044
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: to talk about how the Seahawks could end on a

1045
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: positive note. I mean, the two people, there's there's a

1046
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: lot of players that you look at and say, man,

1047
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: this game means a heck of a lot for them

1048
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: in terms of what twenty twenty two could mean for

1049
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. But how big would it be to see

1050
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: players like Rashad Penny and Russell Wilson and the season strongly? Oh,

1051
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: I think I think it means everything. I think oftentimes

1052
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: it's that last impression that you have that carries you over.

1053
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: We always used to talk about, you know, that last

1054
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: game of the season, and early on in my career,

1055
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: we didn't win many games, so you were just trying

1056
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: to win anything, but especially that last game, even if

1057
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: you were out of it. There's just something about winning

1058
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: that last game to send you to the offseason with

1059
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: a good taste in your mouth. All the fans, you know,

1060
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: I was so happy for the Twelves last week to

1061
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: see the most explosive offensive performance for this team all

1062
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: season long, and that was the final home game. Yeah,

1063
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: I know against the Lions, I get it. But it's

1064
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: that Lions team who beat the Arizona Cardinals just a

1065
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, So you know, anybody can step up

1066
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: on any given week. We play well in Arizona, Russell

1067
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: plays well in Arizona, and Rashad we haven't seen enough

1068
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: of down in the desert until we have this opportunity

1069
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: this week. I think if these guys can get out

1070
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: on top, can make some plays, I think we've got

1071
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: a really good chance of winning some football game. I'm

1072
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: winning the football game down now. Assuming that Rashad Penny

1073
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: just has like an average shade, let's just assume that

1074
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: he finishes the day without getting hurt. It seems even

1075
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: then that just given the performance he's had in this

1076
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: past month, you'd want to bring him back. You know,

1077
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no vote in it, but I would.

1078
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, see, will you please bring Penny back? If

1079
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: John calls me, okay, I will be sure to give

1080
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: him my opinion, although I'm sure he couldn't care less

1081
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: what I think. But I think he has proven that

1082
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: he definitely is that kind of running back that can

1083
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: help carry this football team. Now, do you need help

1084
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: around him? Absolutely? Here's something And I was going to

1085
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: ask Pete this later on today, but I'll just throw

1086
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: it out there now. You know, Alex Collins went on

1087
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: IR this week, and I granted they didn't win a

1088
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: lot of games in that whole period of time when

1089
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Russ was heard and Chris got heard and Alex was

1090
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: in there, gutting it out with an abdominal injury. That's

1091
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna mean he'll have some offseason surgery too. But

1092
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: what an unsung hero that guy is going in there

1093
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: and playing hurt for the the you know, the last

1094
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: half of the season. But the team will need some

1095
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: help at that position. No guarantee that Chris Carson is

1096
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: ever gonna play again. I'd love it if those two

1097
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: guys could come back, Rashad and Chris on a one

1098
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: two punch, But we hope that going into this season,

1099
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out that way till these last

1100
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: five when Rashad's been healthy. So I would say absolutely

1101
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: keep him now. You know you can't give him everything

1102
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: he wants, probably, but the Seahawks have some spending money.

1103
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: They've got some cash in their pocket. They'll be able

1104
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: to pay him some money to stick around and be

1105
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: the kind of player that I know John drafted and

1106
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: Pete wanted back in four years ago when they when

1107
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: they brought him on as a first round pick. All right, Rebell,

1108
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: I got an important question for you here, and keep

1109
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: it okay because I know off the radio you're like

1110
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: a sailor. I'm sorry to all the sailors. But what

1111
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: do you think Adrian Peterson said to Rashad Penny in

1112
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: a sentence, You know, that's a it's a it's a

1113
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: great question. And and I don't know if if it's

1114
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: as much that he said things specifically, or if it's

1115
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: the example that he said that, you know, here's a

1116
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: guy who what is Peterson in the league fourteen fifteen

1117
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: years something like that? Yeah, you know that kind of career.

1118
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: And there he was out there practicing like a rookie,

1119
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: trying to make the club and just sort of set

1120
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: the tempo for everybody in that running back room. His

1121
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: sense of coming in and wanting to learn instantly so

1122
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: that he can contribute, which he did scored a touchdown

1123
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: in his only action with the team earlier this year

1124
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: when they really needed him. I think he probably gave

1125
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: him some hints on how do you succeed in this

1126
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: league as a running back, how do you keep yourself

1127
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 1: healthy and all those things, and maybe most importantly, how

1128
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: do you go out there and say I'm going to

1129
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: take over this game. I'm going to be the tougher

1130
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: of the two of us when I come meeting a

1131
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: linebacker in that at that line of scrimmage. Here's what

1132
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: you do, here's what you think, here's how you have

1133
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: to comport yourself, here's how you prepare. And then, hey,

1134
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: don't let a couple of little injuries, back injuries slow

1135
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: you down. Go out there and show him what you

1136
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: can do. I'd think probably he said a little bit

1137
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: of all that. Yeah, I think to me, that was

1138
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: what I was talking earlier about. Dwayne Brown told us

1139
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: one time, I don't want my head to know what

1140
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: my body is feeling. And you know, it's the same

1141
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: type of thing like you have to play hurt and

1142
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson I think of him, Frank Gore, those are

1143
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: the those are guys that are just tough guys. Man.

1144
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: They had just endured so much and and that's a

1145
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: that's a tough position. I mean, everybody you have the

1146
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: ball in your hand, everybody's trying to kill you, you know.

1147
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: So that that to me, I think is probably, uh,

1148
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: that's my vote anyway, that that he just said, hey man,

1149
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: you've got to play through some of these little little

1150
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: problems that you're having physically. Yeah, And it can't be

1151
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: a false bravado or anything like that to piggyback on

1152
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: what Dwayne said, you know your can't your mouth can't

1153
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: write a check that your back can't cash. So you

1154
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: need to go out there and and you got to

1155
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: back it up when when you say this is what

1156
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to do, and I think, I really think

1157
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: what I've seen in the last five weeks, he can

1158
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: all right. He is the voice of the Seahawks. See

1159
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Rabel raves as always and especially today on our final huddle.

1160
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. It's always a blast. And uh,

1161
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: everyone listening, you can hear Rabel and Wyman on the

1162
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: call for the Seahawks broadcast this Sunday. Thanks rapes. Wait minute,

1163
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: you're not going to bring me back every week just

1164
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: to talk. I mean, yeah, I would like love that.

1165
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're more than welcome. Wyman won't be there maybe,

1166
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: but your guys aren't gonna pay me, so no thanks.

1167
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: But see he's a paycheck, that's what it is. Only

1168
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: here for the money. I have really enjoyed, honestly, goodness,

1169
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: I have really enjoyed it. It's been fun. And thank you,

1170
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: thank you guys for thanking it easy. Thanks Ray see

1171
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: you Sunday. All right, we're going to take a step

1172
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: over enemy lines. And talk to Josh Winefass, who's the

1173
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: ESPN Cardinals reporter, and then we'll be back with our

1174
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: final thoughts to wrap things up. Don't go anywhere. This

1175
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy

1176
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: Ross joining us. Now of ESPN, it's Josh Winefass covering

1177
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Josh, how's it going. I am great. Thanks

1178
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: for having me, of course, I mean I'm going to

1179
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: actually start at the end of the season. I have

1180
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: questions to get to about the Cardinals three game skid.

1181
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: But one of the biggest critiques, as you know, and

1182
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: as you've levy about Cliff Kingsbury, is that he just

1183
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: can't finish. Does it feel like he's done that with

1184
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: their win over Dallas or is there're still more to prove.

1185
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean, one game I don't think will will change

1186
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: that stat or change that notion. Um, here's the thing

1187
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys game is that the Cowboys played really bad.

1188
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: So everyone who you know, all these Cardinals fans are

1189
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: trying to tell me that, oh they're back, they're an

1190
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's over, that skids over. They're not who

1191
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: they were. Well, when you beat a team that played terrible.

1192
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: You can't really gauge a ton from that. So to me,

1193
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: if they go out and they just demolish the Seahawks

1194
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: on Sunday, to me, there'll be a sign that they're

1195
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs on a good note. But if

1196
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: they if they struggle against Seattle, or if they lose,

1197
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: then I think it's pretty safe to say they still

1198
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: have those issues. That was just a I mean, I

1199
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: think it's kind of the opposite of what conventional think

1200
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: would be. That win was an anomaly because of how

1201
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: well they played compared to how poorly they potentially could play.

1202
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, it is one of those unique aspects of

1203
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: it because what is the pulse from a fan and

1204
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: media perspective about Cliff Kingsbury. We talked about this last

1205
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: time we had you on, and you gave us a

1206
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: very unique answer. At the time, you guys were rolling,

1207
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: you guys were at the top, and there's still some

1208
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: questions about how the second half was gonna go. Obviously

1209
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: there was good reason for that, but are people still

1210
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, confident in Cliff Kingsbury and that he is

1211
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: he's the guy for the job. It's such a weird situation,

1212
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: right because it seems eleven and five, well, any by

1213
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: any standard, that's a great record. I think most times

1214
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: people will be really excited about eleven five record, especially

1215
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: here in Arizona. But you know, you lose what so

1216
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: it was three out of the last eight, So now

1217
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: it's like three or they won't it's four out of

1218
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: their last nine is what they won, right, I think

1219
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: I think that's the stats. So you feel good that

1220
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: you're eleven and five and you're in the playoffs for

1221
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: the first time in the sixth year, but then you

1222
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: look at what happened recently and you're like, well, it

1223
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: could have been way better. So this is kind of

1224
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: a weird juctiposition where fans are like, on one side,

1225
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: on one hand, this is great. On the other hand

1226
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: is kind of like what has happened in the last

1227
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: two months. So with the tab, I think what people

1228
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: are starting to kind of contemplate is what's his feeling

1229
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: and has he hit that feeling in his last three years,

1230
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: well maybe every year of his coaching career, but especially

1231
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: in the last few years here. Right, sure they're in

1232
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they went from the number one overall

1233
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: season the NFC to being the leader in the NFC

1234
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: West basically all season two. Now you're a five seed

1235
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: on the road of the playoffs, which for them isn't

1236
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: terrible because they're not very good at home and they're

1237
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: quite good on the road. But it's kind of you

1238
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: have to step back, take a step back and look

1239
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: at the big picture, like what if they get bounced

1240
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: in the first round. At what point do you have

1241
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, this is obviously a trend. We need

1242
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: to we need to figure out what we're going to do.

1243
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: Because he doesn't really coach at the defense. He doesn't

1244
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: really coach the running game. He is a passing game

1245
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks coach. Is really what it comes down to,

1246
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: is that the type of guy that we need to

1247
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: run our organization. I think that's a question that owner

1248
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: Michael Biddell needs to ask himself because sure they got

1249
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: the eleven wins, Sure they got to the playoffs, but

1250
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: this year could have been so much better, just like

1251
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: last year could have been so much better. So how

1252
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: many years are they going to I guess, tolerate or

1253
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: accept it could have been so much better as kind

1254
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: of what they're, you know, what they're when they look

1255
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: back on the season and you do your postseason review.

1256
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: If that's the title of it every year, how much

1257
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: longer can that last? I feel like that sentiment I

1258
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: hear from a lot of people that idea that like, look,

1259
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is good at X, Y and Z, but

1260
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: is he the guy which leads me to think that

1261
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: there's just moments that make you want to pull your

1262
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: hair out. What are some of those, maybe more common

1263
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: moments game management, play calling? I mean, there are times

1264
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: when Neil You'll be in the red zone, they throw

1265
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: the ball three straight times, and you have a guy

1266
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: like James Conner or Chase Edmonds who can get you

1267
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: to three yards a carry and get into the end

1268
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: zone in two plays instead of trying to go for

1269
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: that back shoulder fade to a guy who's five eleven. Right,

1270
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: It's just there. There are decisions like that would just

1271
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: I think everyone who's watching games, media and and and

1272
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: fans alike. You're trying to scratch your head and you're

1273
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: kind of thinking what's going on down there? Right, and

1274
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: then you know they might sale for a field goal,

1275
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: and then all of sudden you're like, well, you could

1276
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: have had a touchdown. If you did, would have run,

1277
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, basically a typical NFL offense, but you're trying

1278
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: to do something else and then it leads you know,

1279
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: you you end up with with with three points out

1280
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: of seven um a lot of penalties, right Cook King

1281
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: Grays had highly penalized teams his entire career. So I

1282
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: think when nest starts to happen, I mean, when you

1283
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: start seeing you know, false starts consistently, you have to

1284
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: take a step back and think, why are these happening?

1285
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: Is it that Cliff kings Ray's teams are not disciplined enough,

1286
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: which you know one year might be you know it

1287
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: was an off year. When you go back and you

1288
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: look back to Texas Tech and then you look at Arizona,

1289
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean they let the league and penalty last year.

1290
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: They're always among the top five highest teams in the

1291
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: country of Texnas Tech. This is a trend, and I

1292
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: think it's safe to say Cliffs team, various teams are

1293
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: not disciplined enough. So I think there's some major issue

1294
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: that need to be addressed, and this teams thought that

1295
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: they had addressed those this off season, right or Kyler

1296
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: Murray was extremely frustrated with how last year ended and

1297
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: he went into this off season saying, we need to

1298
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: do the small things better if we're going to be

1299
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: a team that's going to compete in this league. And

1300
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: they were doing those for seven games and they stopped

1301
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: doing them, and then we still it happened. Yeah, this

1302
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: is this is fascinating. This is incredibly fascinating because you

1303
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: look at the roster that Arizona has and it is

1304
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: incredible and you see some of the moves that was

1305
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: that were made over the off season by time and

1306
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: it worked out tremendously well for this team, and they

1307
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: still have the ability to do some damage in the playoffs.

1308
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: There's no doubt if they can get back on the

1309
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: right track of what they were doing earlier on in

1310
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: the season. How much of it also is due to injury, Josh,

1311
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: because we also know that the Arizona Cardinals have been

1312
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: unfortunately been bitten by the injury bug the last few weeks. Yeah,

1313
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: I think I think there's one injury in particular that

1314
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: really we do have to taking conservation when it takes

1315
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: that kind of the big picture of view of the season,

1316
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: and that's DeAndre Hoppings, because you take him out of

1317
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: the equation offensively, well, you know, it changes everything really,

1318
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was the isolated receiver to

1319
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: one side of Kyler Murray the whole season. Essentially, you

1320
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: take that that piece out. Well, a defense now has

1321
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: to they don't have to decide that they're going to cover.

1322
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: They know they don't need to cover, or they don't

1323
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: need to double or bracket or roll the coverage over

1324
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: to the single receiver they need to watch out for

1325
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: a J. Green, Christian Kirk mondeal more. And it changes

1326
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: the complexion of the offensive, changes the complexion of the defense.

1327
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: It changes the complexion of what the Cardinals can do

1328
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: and will do. And I think that's kind of been

1329
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: the biggest issue obviously on Defensio's JJ Watt early in

1330
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,959
Speaker 1: the season and then you I thought they were gonna

1331
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: be until other injuries started hitting the defensive front. And

1332
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: then once those guys started going down, he started seeing

1333
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: where JJ Watt's absence was an issue. But for the

1334
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: most I think the one, the one issue, the one

1335
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: interesting you know, take more seriously than all others is Hopkins.

1336
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: But you know, the one thing that I also I

1337
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: think it's fascinating is this offense can turn it on

1338
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: in like two seconds right, Like, they can go down

1339
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: the field and forty five seconds and score a touchdown

1340
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: in like three plays, and you're just like, where is

1341
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: this offense all the time? Right? And and then they

1342
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: might go three and out, three out, three, do it again,

1343
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: and you're trying to like that. They weren't doing that

1344
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: early in the season. So I think if if this

1345
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: team wants to get on a roll, they need to

1346
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: obviously pick it up against Seattle. But once they get

1347
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, if they can play like they did

1348
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: in those first seven games, I will say that they're

1349
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: going to be very tough to beat. There's no doubt

1350
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: about they have the talent, they have the skill is

1351
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: will they be all right? Very last question here, don't

1352
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: be afraid to be tough with us for the band

1353
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: Aid off. What kind of game do you see on Sunday?

1354
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: You can talk it. I mean, it's going to be

1355
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: a tough game, I really do. I think you can

1356
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: ask at least for a little bit. Mean, for the

1357
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: first time, I think Seattle is going to come out

1358
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: with his mental we have nothing to lose their last game.

1359
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: We also he's gonna probably want to finally show that

1360
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: he's I mean he'd beat up on Detroit, but that's

1361
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: going that they did beat the Cardinals, but it's still Detroit,

1362
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: you know. I think he's gonna want to show that

1363
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: he can still play. Obviously, he's all the rumors circulating

1364
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: about whether he's gonna be on the team next year.

1365
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: I think he didn't want to have in a great game. Obviously,

1366
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: he wants to play well every game, but he's gonna

1367
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: want to have a great game against get these guys,

1368
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: and these games typically are. So I think it's going

1369
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: to be a good game because it's two NFC West rivals. Um,

1370
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are gonna be playing because if the Rams lose,

1371
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: they win the NFC West, and that's at an incentive

1372
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. So I think it's gonna kind of

1373
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: be a bloodbast for the first half and then after that. Honestly,

1374
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a crapsheet, like which teams come out

1375
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: of that locker room tired up. I don't know, like

1376
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be that the Cardinals are going to

1377
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: take off of this and just fly away, or it's

1378
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: going to be a a grueling game up until triple

1379
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: zeros in the Seahawks could win. All right. He is

1380
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: Josh win Fitz of ESPN. Make sure you're reading his

1381
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: coverage of the Cardinals at ESPN dot com. And Josh,

1382
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: this is our second time the season talking with you.

1383
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: It's always a blast. I hope we can get you

1384
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: in the offseason for some good NFCS previews. Let's do.

1385
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: I always enjoy it, all right, wrapping up the final

1386
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: huddle with our final thoughts. It's coming your way next.

1387
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps,

1388
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: and Stacy Roston. Guys, it's the final huddle of the season.

1389
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: The Seahawks are out of the postseason. You all knew that,

1390
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 1: and this is their regular season finale against the Cardinals.

1391
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: It's a game on Sunday one, twenty five day. Wyman

1392
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: going to be on the Seahawks broadcast with Steve Rabel,

1393
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: who we spoke to earlier in the show. Guys, let's

1394
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: start with an easy starting point for jumping off into

1395
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: our final, final kind of final thoughts. You're wrapping up

1396
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: just the keys to a win. It's what everyone wants,

1397
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: is with the Seahawks want, It's what their fans want. Dave,

1398
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Yeah, I would say the pass

1399
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: rush on Kyler Murray. He has not been sacked a lot,

1400
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: twenty six times. I saw Joe Burrow has been sacked

1401
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: fifty one, unreal, and what Jake is Russ like thirty one,

1402
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: thirty two something like that. I think, yeah, somewhere in

1403
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: that range. YEA, yeah, so I think, you know, getting

1404
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: those guys going. You know, we talked to two guys

1405
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: that can affect that, Kerry Hyder and Carlos Dunlap and

1406
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: really interesting with Carlos Dunlap and the things that he

1407
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: was saying. But yeah, I think getting after him. I

1408
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: know that's just kind of the easy answer, but I

1409
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: feel like if you can contain him, he's been pretty accurate.

1410
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: You know, I was looking at his first three years

1411
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: Jake compared to Russ. First of all, as far as

1412
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: winning goes, Russ has got a seven fifty win percentage,

1413
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: which is twelve games in the sixteen game season, and

1414
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray's like twenty two, twenty two and one.

1415
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: The other thing is this just their development is much

1416
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: different because when you're the number one pick of the

1417
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: entire draft, you get more resources, more attention and Russ

1418
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: was the number seventy five picks, so you know, it

1419
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: wasn't like they were gonna feature him, so it's, uh, yeah,

1420
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I still think there's question marks. Twine

1421
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: fuss geez, I was he didn't sound good interview, I know,

1422
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: but all right he was letting it. Oh hey out

1423
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: there with Kingsbury. And you know, I know Clayton has

1424
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: told us he thought that he would be in trouble

1425
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: if he didn't make the playoffs. So you know, with

1426
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: him and Kyler Murray Jake, I think both of those guys,

1427
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: there's still a question mark, Like I feel like they

1428
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: need to win in the playoffs. Oh, they certainly do,

1429
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: and in this game against Seattle is very very important

1430
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: to them. I mean, make no mistake about it. It

1431
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: is not something that they're walking into and going, oh,

1432
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: here's the lowly Seahawks. This is a game. It was

1433
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: a huge win for them against Dallas that they needed.

1434
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: It was an emotional win almost kind of like a

1435
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: collective side of relief. Now they're going into this game

1436
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: against Seattle and saying, Okay, can we build something some

1437
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: possible momentum going into the playoffs, and if we can

1438
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: do so maybe we can do some damage. Maybe we

1439
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: can play more like the team we were in the

1440
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: first half of the season than anything else. And they'll

1441
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: get DeAndre Hopkins back for the playoffs and at least

1442
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: that's the word, that's the hope. So you see how

1443
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: they can want They can try to build that for

1444
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in order to you know, be spoiler and

1445
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: to play spoiler and to win in their own building

1446
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: to cap off a disappointing season on a high note,

1447
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: you have to be able to Dave one hundred percent

1448
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: agree with you in terms of rushing the passer and

1449
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: being able to fet Kyler Murray because he has made

1450
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: poor decisions through the month of December. You have to

1451
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: get the run game going and have to get Russell

1452
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: Wilson in rhythm and in order for you to have

1453
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. With the news to Ryan Neil,

1454
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: I really feel like if they can't get a pass rush,

1455
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are going to put up points. They

1456
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: are going to be able to light up the scoreboard,

1457
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks offense has to be able to control

1458
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: the time of possession. They have to be able to

1459
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: stay on the field. They have to be able to

1460
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: put up points if they want any chance of winning

1461
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: this game. And so it really comes down to Rashad Penny,

1462
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Those two guys, how they play, they're what

1463
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: they're night looks like at the end of it all,

1464
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna very much determine how this you know,

1465
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: how this game goes. Now it's interesting, is it's possible

1466
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: for your answer, both of you, but day for your

1467
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: answer to be, Hey, most important key is get the

1468
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: pass rush going contain Kyler Murray. And also possible that

1469
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: the answer to the question which player are you watching

1470
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: most closely? Is someone entirely different? But is that the

1471
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: case for you, Dave? It's a question for both of

1472
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: you who I'm looking at? Yeah? Just which player you

1473
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: are watching most closely in this one? Well, I know,

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Speaker 1: Rashad Penny's probably gonna be the popular answer because you know,

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Speaker 1: if he can continue, I feel like we've been hey,

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Speaker 1: prove it for like the last couple of weeks, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's probably going, what do you guys want?

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I want three hundred yards over the

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Speaker 1: last two games. But I'll tell you what, how about

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Speaker 1: this one Rashane Green, whose contract is up. He's also

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01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: tied for the lead as far as um sacks go,

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Speaker 1: and I always bring this up to him. He had

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Speaker 1: an open field sack on Kyler Murray. Let's say it

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Speaker 1: was his rookie. No, it was twenty nineteen, and I

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01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: remember he was one on one with him. He got

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Speaker 1: actually got the sack, but I remember thinking, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: Rashim's got no chance. And he has been such a

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Speaker 1: great nice player. I mean, I feel like this is

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Speaker 1: this defense has really benefited more the inside guys than

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: it has you know, the guys coming off the edge,

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: as we heard from from Carlos Dunlop. So you know,

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: I'd say keep an eye on him and he might

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: be one of those guys that that comes up with.

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Speaker 1: When I asked him about the sack, he goes, yeah,

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01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: he tried to give me some bleep and limp leg

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: move or something like that. We had to bleep it out.

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01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: But I liked his, uh disdain for Kyler Murray and

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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,480
Speaker 1: his moves. Something tells me that you Dave would appreciate

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01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: any disdain for quarterbacks from another Jake. What about you

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01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: or offensive lineman? Yeah, receivers, Green pick is a good one.

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: It's a sneaky good pick um and he's been a

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01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: sneaky good player this year. Hasn't been totally flashy, but

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: you look at his production and go, man, this guy's

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01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: had a pretty solid year this year. I'm gonna keep

1505
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: it very obvious in first and foremost. We talked about

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01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny, but for me, it's the offensive line for

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. I mean, Rashad Penny is a good

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01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: football player, but the offensive line has been playing so

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: much better to finish out the year, and they're gonna

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01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: have to put up a great effort against a very active,

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: very talented front seven in the Arizona Cardinals, and that

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: is something you're gonna have to keep an eye on

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: because if they can play well, it gives Rashad Penny opportunities,

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01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: it helps Russell Wilson, and ultimately, if you can do

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: that and Russell Wilson can get into rhythm and he

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 1: can play well, to me, that's gonna be a huge

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,839
Speaker 1: key to this game is seeing Russell play like Russell,

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: and that is going to be if you want to

1519
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: go score for score or have to go score for score,

1520
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: you need your quarterback to be playing at a high level. Stacy,

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: how about that intel that Marcus Golden needs two sacks

1522
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: for a million dollar bonus. This is from Paul KELVC

1523
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: who's the sideline reporter for Arizona, And I'm just thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: I would not want to be the guy who was

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01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: in between that man and his million dollars. Absolutely not,

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: absolutely not. It already like you know that there's even

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: more incentive to do that. And if you're him, if

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01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: you're Marcus Golden, you already know two sacks. They need,

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01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: just two sacks, and I have a million dollars now

1530
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: it's million, one million dollars. It's gonna be one in

1531
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: the trenches for sure. And I know that all of

1532
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: us are also going to be watching Rashad Penny. All right,

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Speaker 1: you guys, Jake Dave, it is the final huddle. It

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01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: feels very weird to say. It's really sad, you guys,

1535
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: though I've had a blast all season long. I always

1536
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: have fun. I know, I try to bring my notes

1537
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: and keep pace. But you two are amazing analysts. You

1538
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: do a great job, and it helps to have unique

1539
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: perspectives on both sides of the ball. When we're talking

1540
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: about this team. And also we appreciate all of you

1541
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: guys for tuning in, So thank you to our regular

1542
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: guests as well. Dave trying not to get you're making

1543
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: me you're making me teery out here. All right, guys,

1544
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: you guys do a great job. We love having you

1545
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: guys lead into our show and it's really been fun.

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Speaker 1: Good job. It's been a blast. I'm gonna miss these

1547
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: Thursday to shout out here, Shout out to Curtis Rogers

1548
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: absolutely yea, and in all of our Seahawks guests, shout

1549
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: out to Ray Roberts, shout out to Steve Rabel, shout

1550
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: out to John Boyle for joining us all the time,

1551
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: and just all the Seahawks that have been on with us.

1552
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: We seriously appreciate it, you guys. This is it Week eighteen,

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01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: Game seventeen. It's happening this Sunday one twenty five pm

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01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: kickoff in Arizona. Stay tuned right here. Sevent ten ESPN

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Speaker 1: Seattle