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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren z E mccoming to you from

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<v Speaker 1>the home office in Austin, Texas. Happy spring break, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you made it through. This is what the

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<v Speaker 1>I think. It's the end of the three weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>all the spring breaks that everybody has taken with their kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you all survive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's one more. There's a round of one more.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, because we are actually going to my college,

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<v Speaker 3>University of Missouri, right to check out Josh's your son,

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<v Speaker 3>Josh has lacrosse game against Miszoo. And my only reason

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like a little bummed out is that we are

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<v Speaker 3>going and it's going to be spring break weekend, so

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<v Speaker 3>like I want you to have the full Miszoo experience

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<v Speaker 3>with the kids walking across the quad and all that,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might be a little quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>M I z z oh you baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we are going to go. Elz and I are

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<v Speaker 1>going back to college. We're going to go back to Missoo.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to check out the Theta. How We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited around town. I'm excited too.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved going to Miszoo.

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<v Speaker 3>Miszoo at TCU when we first looked at it with

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<v Speaker 3>the kids, reminded me of Missoo and that they're both

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<v Speaker 3>very like, this is what you think college is supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to look like. There's a it's all centered around the quad.

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<v Speaker 3>The town is really into the college. It's like very

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not in the middle of some big city,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I mean, every college experience can be different,

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<v Speaker 3>but I remember thinking, I'm so glad I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>had the ultimate, you know, picturesque college.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see the Lourenzema statue, the Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>Zema Square, and I think we actually are going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to some mass calm students there, so it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fun. I'm looking forward to geting up the Miszoo.

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<v Speaker 3>So okay, I mean before we get there, there's not

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<v Speaker 3>a mass calm department at the University of Missouri.

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<v Speaker 2>The University of Missouri School of Journalisms.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, okay, oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>The number the first two I have to say it

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<v Speaker 2>with an accent, you have to say it with gravitas.

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<v Speaker 1>School of Judaism.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're not British, We're American. Okay, just have some

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<v Speaker 3>depth to it. This is the first ever journalism school

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<v Speaker 3>in the country. This is the number one journalism school

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<v Speaker 3>in the country. Okay, you can't go in there, saying

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<v Speaker 3>the mass Calm department, please have some respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man. Anyway, this week is gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 3>But we did just have a great weekend of spring

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<v Speaker 3>break because.

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<v Speaker 1>Our kids were off last week. And yeah, so spring break.

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<v Speaker 2>We love the.

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<v Speaker 3>Flight prices that American Airlines gives us when they know

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<v Speaker 3>it's Texas school spring break. Dear Lord, I glance these

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<v Speaker 3>airline prices. They've gotten crazy to me. I glanced at

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<v Speaker 3>our I thought about maybe changing our flight back, because

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<v Speaker 3>we were in Mexico with your wonderful daughter Taylor and

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<v Speaker 3>three of her incredible friends.

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<v Speaker 2>They were such sweet girls.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad they have each other and that they

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<v Speaker 3>are prioritizing female friendships in college. Advice icon instantly give,

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<v Speaker 3>and I glanced at changing our flight if someone wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to get on our flight back. A flight from Cabos,

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<v Speaker 3>San Lucas to Austin, Texas was three three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>a one way, one way ticket, basic economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair. What's going on? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the flight attendant that. He said, there's an

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<v Speaker 1>algorithm now, it's all AI. There isn't like he said,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody sitting next to anybody is paying the same price

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<v Speaker 1>for any seat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like to on demand Taylor swift eras tour ticket

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<v Speaker 3>pricing style all AI.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what they're doing with apartments now. And we can

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<v Speaker 1>get into this someday too, about the whole AI, about

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<v Speaker 1>how it's raising all the rents for everybody because it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically a monopoly. Now they are controlling the price, and

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as someone buys one apartment, they'll up the

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<v Speaker 1>next price and up the next price. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be just this flat rate for everybody. Same

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<v Speaker 1>thing used to be for airline tickets, right, they'd at

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<v Speaker 1>a price everybody would buy a ticket and they go

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<v Speaker 1>now as soon as more and more tickets are sold

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, set on demand algorithm thing, and so he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, never again will people pay the same price for tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wild to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's what's nonsensical about And it makes me wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if they'll pull back. I would imagine I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>they miss out on selling tickets like today, if you

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<v Speaker 3>needed that flight, I'd be like, well, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to pay thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Three floors at the executive office that just do this.

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<v Speaker 1>They just set pricing and just deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>These is it floors If people are computers or.

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<v Speaker 1>Just computers, now, probably they've made the people obsolete. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a setting the Yeah, because that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>thing with rent now and all these apartments, is that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's essentially a monopoly. It's not the same company,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a different kind of monopoly because all the

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<v Speaker 1>companies are basically working together to set the price, and

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<v Speaker 1>it will just go up and up, and so no

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<v Speaker 1>one's going to undercut anybody. No one's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. Same thing with these airlines. It's long gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the days where you're going to get a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, thirty three hundred dollars. I was like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it is cheaper to go to Europe than

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<v Speaker 1>it is to go I was sey domestically.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I just got right, like I just got some

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok fed to me or an Instagram rule or something.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably because I was annoyed in looking this up

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<v Speaker 3>where someone was talking about how it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>ski season right now, that it's cheaper to fly to

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<v Speaker 3>France and go skiing in France than it is in

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, take me to France, exactly, fly

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<v Speaker 2>me to France. I'll go.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of British accents, I would love to not talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this because I'm going to put this in the

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift category of sure you would love to avoid it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I noticed you and I have been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about something for three days straight, it's just what it's

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<v Speaker 1>what we got to talk about. We have been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Kate, Kate Gate, water kits William water Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people are saying water kak Kay.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, but it is where and who is

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Middleton?

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<v Speaker 2>Where? And who? Oh my god, it's you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>this conspiracy of.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is Kate? And the photo that was doctored? Is

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<v Speaker 1>she okay? And then the Palace say, you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>had abdominal surgery, don't expect to see her before Easter,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's recovering, please respect her privacy, okay, And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, she emerges with this doctored photo

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<v Speaker 1>that only stirred things up more Well, yesterday we finally

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<v Speaker 1>got living proof via a video from the Windsor Market

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<v Speaker 1>or did we or did this video just stir things

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<v Speaker 1>up even more so?

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<v Speaker 3>When something has reached your ears, then that is also

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<v Speaker 3>always a gauge to me that it's really getting weird

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<v Speaker 3>and people are really into it. I like, first, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, because I've been posting about Kate Gate

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit on Instagram, and I've gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, mostly people who were like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so invested what is going on? And then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get a few people who are saying, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>you and Chris are even talking about this, because your

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<v Speaker 3>public figures and you need to respect her. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to make something clear. I've not criticized her in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>I've not criticized William even in any way, And I

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<v Speaker 3>do not want the paparazzi going out and hounding to

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<v Speaker 3>try to find pictures of Kate. What I am fascinated

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<v Speaker 3>by and what I am critiquing is the Palace's roll

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<v Speaker 3>out of this is the way that they've handled whatever

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<v Speaker 3>she's going through and how badly it's gone. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that this has done significant damage to the level of

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<v Speaker 3>trust and the level of respect that people have for

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<v Speaker 3>the royal family their role.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of all this, it's been a mess and okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many thoughts flooding through my head, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with what you just said. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it is the fact that we don't trust the

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<v Speaker 1>media anymore, and I think that's a huge part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody trusts the media, So there's that and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know we can trust the Royal Palace

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<v Speaker 1>anymore and their pr So there's this weird dichotomy going

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<v Speaker 1>on if I don't trust the palace and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting out, but then a lot of the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the media, and of course social media is not trustful,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's hard to find out where the truth is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yesterday there was this big thing about the flags

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<v Speaker 1>that can anyone tell me why the flags at Buckingham

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<v Speaker 1>Palace are at half staff?

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't because the conspiracy theories are at the point

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<v Speaker 3>of some people are like, Kate is dead. They're hiding

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<v Speaker 3>that she's dead, and I'm like, you, guys, the.

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<v Speaker 1>White Horse a month ago that went through and that

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<v Speaker 1>signifies somebody passed away, and then the flags are at

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<v Speaker 1>half staff. And then you know, somebody debunks that and says,

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<v Speaker 1>well that that picture was taken back in September.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the video is old, they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you have to worry about all that stuff even

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<v Speaker 1>when And then can we just throw in Barack Obama. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama is on Downing Street, he's an England Meetia

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<v Speaker 1>with the prime What does that have to do with it?

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<v Speaker 1>And then but honestly, as soon as I saw Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama's video of him in England, my first thought was,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe this was this from when he was president?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is this an old video as well? So well,

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<v Speaker 1>you do hard to corroborate this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You really have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Question what is what you see on Twitter, on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram, because I think I don't know why it

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<v Speaker 3>is if it's because people want to go viral, or

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<v Speaker 3>if because they don't check out where they're getting stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but they post things that are like, yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>this old photo and people are posting it like it's new,

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<v Speaker 3>and then what is the truth becomes very confusing and

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<v Speaker 3>we live in that age and that is why I

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<v Speaker 3>really started getting into this Kate thing when it came

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<v Speaker 3>out that the photo of her on Mother's Day with

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<v Speaker 3>her kids was fully doctored, Because the issue to me

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<v Speaker 3>there is it's not an issue of oh, we airbrushed

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<v Speaker 3>a photo and you know, smoothed out some skin and

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<v Speaker 3>made somebody look a little better and had a really

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<v Speaker 3>good life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a weird film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that it has been shown through the metadata of

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<v Speaker 3>the photo, that it was seemingly two or three different

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<v Speaker 3>photos comprised together, that Kate's face was not the face

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<v Speaker 3>like of that photo, and that it was presented as

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<v Speaker 3>if it was real. You can't be a public figure

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<v Speaker 3>creating and faking an official figure. I mean, the people

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<v Speaker 3>of England pay for the Royal family.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you hit a good point the other day

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<v Speaker 1>when you and I were talking about this, going back

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<v Speaker 1>to journalism in your school of journalism, you had. The

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<v Speaker 1>biggest issue was they sent that out as journalism to

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<v Speaker 1>news organizations, and you're sending that out as this is legit,

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<v Speaker 1>this is real.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't send a fake a photo of a faked moment,

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<v Speaker 3>a moment that never happened to the Associated Press, to Reuters,

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<v Speaker 3>to the AFP and say send this out for wide distribution.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to put something up on your Instagram,

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<v Speaker 3>that's your right, right. But those agencies are supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be sending out images that are only true.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a difference between you put a filter on

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<v Speaker 1>it and you fix your you know, a bruise or

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<v Speaker 1>a beauty marker. So there's a difference between that and

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<v Speaker 1>actually doctoring and faking a moment that didn't happen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the big difference here. We all use filters. Now, flash

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<v Speaker 1>forward to this TMZ video. This was and I just

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<v Speaker 1>saw something just two seconds ago. They ran the metadata

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<v Speaker 1>and TMZ is going back over this saying, guys, this

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<v Speaker 1>metadata shows this video was taken live Saturday. This did happen. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>was that Kate? Was that William? All that stuff? You

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<v Speaker 1>can argue that all the day, all day long. But

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<v Speaker 1>so TMZ's backing up the fact that they released this

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<v Speaker 1>as news. This moment happened in time. Whoever that woman is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Kate or if it's some other woman, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know because it doesn't look a lot like Kate. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, but that we can confirmed did happen Saturday?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so the market.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think with the reason that we keep talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this now is because every thing that's happened has

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<v Speaker 3>a weird angle to it. So this all started if

0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.040
<v Speaker 3>you've really been living under I rock. The cliffs Notes

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<v Speaker 3>version is over right after the holidays. The Palace says

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<v Speaker 3>that Kate is going to have a planned abdominal surgery

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<v Speaker 3>and she will be out of public appearances. She won't

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<v Speaker 3>be seen until Easter, and everyone's kind of like, whoa that.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, she had a trip planned for Italy

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<v Speaker 3>in early January that got canceled, so it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>sound like a planned surgery. If you also had a

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<v Speaker 3>planned trip you canceled, that's a little weird. And the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that she's going to be out for a while

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<v Speaker 3>kind of raises some red flags. But you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the surgery is, she doesn't have to share her

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<v Speaker 3>medical stuff with everybody, even though she's a public figure.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that, but it was a little weird. So

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<v Speaker 3>they started out with that, that's weird. Then she's really

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<v Speaker 3>not seen, not even like you know, seen going to

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<v Speaker 3>and from someone's house, not seen, and that's a little

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<v Speaker 3>weird because if we remember Prince Philip when he was

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<v Speaker 3>like in his late nineties, Yeah, there were some picks

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<v Speaker 3>of him in a car and we were like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, let the man rest. I mean, so, while

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't expect her public appearance as official appearances, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a little weird that she literally wasn't seen anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we get a picture of her in a car,

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<v Speaker 3>but she doesn't totally look like Kate. She looks a

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<v Speaker 3>little different. Now, maybe it's something medical that's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to it's not that she looks bad,

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<v Speaker 3>but she doesn't totally look like Kate. Then we get

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of her in a car with William, but

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<v Speaker 3>you can't really see her face at all. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>her from the back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we get the doctored photo on Mother's Day that's

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<v Speaker 3>completely fabricated. Now we have this video, and here's what's

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<v Speaker 3>weird about the video. To me, I'm glad TMZ said

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<v Speaker 3>that the metadata showed it was taken on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>But if she is out at a.

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<v Speaker 3>Farmer's market, the windsor little local market, right, and at

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<v Speaker 3>this point everyone in the world is talking about this story,

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<v Speaker 3>I would think everyone would have been whipping out their

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<v Speaker 3>phones filming it, like, oh my gosh, it's Kate and

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<v Speaker 3>Will and all we get is one video from very

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<v Speaker 3>far away. It just feels odd to me, like that's

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<v Speaker 3>like there's all every.

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<v Speaker 2>Single one of these instances. Something is a little off,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to care about this and the royal family is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really I'm not that interested in any of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But nothing has made sense. Nothing has been the lowest

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<v Speaker 1>common denominator of just here she is here, Look, she's speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>she's alive. The video of this woman, whoever that is,

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<v Speaker 1>was not only not injured, hrt sick. She was gallivanting,

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<v Speaker 1>like almost skipping through this market completely fine, as if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing has ever happened to her a day in her life.

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<v Speaker 1>None of this makes sense. Somebody's got to make it

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<v Speaker 1>make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't believe, Like, even if the people of

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<v Speaker 3>England are quite respectful of Will and Kate, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that at this point, at this stage in the story,

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<v Speaker 3>when everyone knows that, like the world over is talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this, that a few people didn't like pull out

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<v Speaker 3>their iPhone which everybody has, and like, take a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of picks.

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<v Speaker 2>If if you had, if this had.

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<v Speaker 3>Been she showed up at a market and lots of

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<v Speaker 3>people got pictures and took videos, I'd be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>there she is. She's fine, but it's just a little weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone mentioned this as a bruder film of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous JFK film of trying to fit. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel we're looking at It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people are trying to unblur the image, like again, help

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<v Speaker 1>me make sense of this. And that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope she's okay, God bless her. This is crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can end this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want this on her, don't want to put

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<v Speaker 1>this on her, but just by the way you can

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<v Speaker 1>put it into it so quickly, and that's where when

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<v Speaker 1>people get on you or you know, a message, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, how dare you? Just let her live? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>They are famous to be famous, that is their job.

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<v Speaker 1>Their their job is to be famous. Their royal family.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't really have a job. It's not a title.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a self proclaimed title from this family. But so

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<v Speaker 1>just if your job is to be famous, your job

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<v Speaker 1>is to be seen, as they say in the Crown

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you know, part of my job is to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen.

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<v Speaker 3>When the Queen Elizabeth quote was a real quote, is

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<v Speaker 3>she said I have to be seen to be believed.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kate could put an end to this in two

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<v Speaker 1>point two seconds and just put out a video of guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you're worried about me, and dah dah

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<v Speaker 1>da dah you saw me at the market the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to let you know I feel all

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<v Speaker 1>your prayers and well wishes. I'm doing great. I'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom, We'll see that. And that's it, I know. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I don't get.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I don't get because now I've heard some

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<v Speaker 3>people point out and this is part of like the

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<v Speaker 3>Royal families outdated. I think media policies apparently they like

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<v Speaker 3>are like no selfie videos on social media, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>something they allow, okay, But the Queen of England did

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<v Speaker 3>an address every year, a video address at Christmas. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not weird for them to do video messages, so why

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<v Speaker 3>can't they just if Kate's added a farmer's market. Send

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<v Speaker 3>someone with a camera to her house and have her

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<v Speaker 3>film a quick, sweet video.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or make one of those royal appearances you know

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<v Speaker 1>when they like, like you mentioned, when she had a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but this is what everyone well, I know, okay,

0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 3>everyone's saying they kind of trotted her out after each baby.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, hours after giving earth she's standing in heels

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<v Speaker 3>and address outside the hospital holding that baby. You want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about an abdominal surgery. I mean, she just

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<v Speaker 3>had a baby, and they took photos of her hours

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<v Speaker 3>later after each of the three kids.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's that healthy, just walk her out, William, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't ask, have to ask questions, just

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<v Speaker 1>walk out, give the royal wave, right hey guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Well so then this is when people make the argument

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<v Speaker 3>of but she told us she wanted some privacy to

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<v Speaker 3>recover from the surgery, okay, And then to that, I say,

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<v Speaker 3>this is why I think the Palace is just handling

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<v Speaker 3>it wrong. They should have just given people regular updates.

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Part of what this came out of is they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>there won't be any updates. They literally send a statement

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<v Speaker 3>there won't be updates. Well that's a little weird. I

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<v Speaker 3>would have and William has been at these public appearances.

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<v Speaker 3>Just tell people, Hey, everybody, he could have said something. Hey, everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>just want you to know. Kate wishes she could be

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<v Speaker 3>or she continues to recover. She sends her lest he's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The husband, William has given speeches in the last few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks as if none of this is happening. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gaslighting, but maybe that is the term of just

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<v Speaker 1>stop making me feel crazy. Stop making me feel crazy

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<v Speaker 1>for just trying to figure out what's going on. And

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<v Speaker 1>every time I think I got a handle on this,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do something crazier.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really affecting.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel nuts because it's just, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>and I always talk about these things when we get

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<v Speaker 1>into journalism, when we get into stories, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I always dig deep in all these stories when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to news, and it's like when things don't make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>when things don't pass the smell test, that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>get intrigued. They've made me vested in this story because

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<v Speaker 1>none of this makes sense. It's bonkers.

0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe we're the idiots and it's all really brilliant

0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.080
<v Speaker 3>because they've gotten everyone talking about the road fan.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I Well, as we were leaving the airport yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, is this are they thinking the next season

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<v Speaker 1>of The Crown is not written and so we just

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<v Speaker 1>have to come up with the most bizarre story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to get a cut of the Crown.

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.440
<v Speaker 2>That that's the problem. Ibe.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they worked out a deal behind the scenes that Netflix,

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<v Speaker 3>and now we'll get a cut in or.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought about this too. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in the world of the Kardashians. Are are

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<v Speaker 1>they so savvy? And I don't think they are, because

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<v Speaker 1>if we've learned anything from all this, the press are

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<v Speaker 1>so disjointed over there, and the press meaning the pr

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>people of the you know, Kate has her people, William

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 1>has her people. You know, Megan and Harry had their people,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And they're all kind of contradictory, and they

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>don't really have any synergy. And so I don't think

0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they're smart enough to do this. But it would be

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant if this was all contrived to just make the

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<v Speaker 1>royal family.

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, because here's the thing. When we finally do see Kate,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, Oh, she loves yay, I love you Kate

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.600
<v Speaker 3>like I Like I said, I have no critique of Kate.

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't want her hounded and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need to know if she's going through a

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<v Speaker 3>private medical issue. I just think either A, the rollout

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<v Speaker 3>of this was such a mess and they need to

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<v Speaker 3>like have handled it better, have updates and things. If

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<v Speaker 3>they had just given people a few regular updates, like

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm talking once a month, you know, release a

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<v Speaker 3>real photo of her, or have her do a VID

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<v Speaker 3>or just release a statement or have William say something,

0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 3>it could have been a lot better. But B maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's just brilliant and maybe they got everyone's eyes and

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<v Speaker 3>ears back on will and Kate and we're all really

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<v Speaker 3>interested invested again and it's a resurgence of we want

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<v Speaker 3>to know everything about you and it's really smart.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, But when in what world does a

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<v Speaker 1>video make things more confusing? And that in this day

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<v Speaker 1>and age where it's like oh, okay, great, there you go.

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 3>That video, it speaks to the day and age we're

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<v Speaker 3>in right with AI. With deep fakes, people are going

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<v Speaker 3>to question everything on a level they never did before.

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.439
<v Speaker 3>And again that's why I think, like what truth is

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.479
<v Speaker 3>becomes even more important, and I and the royal family

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.920
<v Speaker 3>is going to have to like find ways to navigate

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<v Speaker 3>this now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, why doesn't that woman look like Kate? I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is how crazy this has gotten me.

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<v Speaker 1>And again for someone who was at his zero and

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 1>now I'm at a twelve, I'm sitting here comparing picture

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>old pictures of Kate to this video of Kate to

0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>old pictures of Kate to this, I'm like, this is

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 1>what it's turned me into. I've become Colombo. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the case. So clearly my thing is this isn't over.

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<v Speaker 1>There is more weirdness to come. Something else will happen

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<v Speaker 1>this week that's weirder than the last thing, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>only going to stir things up even more. Obviously, she's

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<v Speaker 1>the most sought after person in the world right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so the fact that there weren't a thousand paparazzi at

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<v Speaker 1>the Windsor Open air Market seems a little odd. So

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<v Speaker 1>there we go, Kate Gate, all right. Next up Shakira.

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<v Speaker 1>She is split up with.

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<v Speaker 2>Her husband Gerard. Do you know how to say this? Last? Nay?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's a football he's a soccer player.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a massive, massive Spanish football player. Okay spent

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of his career obviously played for his country

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<v Speaker 1>in Spain, but played for Barcelona along with Messi. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a massive, massive international rock star.

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<v Speaker 3>So they had quite a messy split in the past

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 3>couple of years, and they were together for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>though they were together for over a decade. And she's

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<v Speaker 3>done a new interview with The Sunday Times. And the

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<v Speaker 3>reason this caught my eye is because I did not

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<v Speaker 3>expect a woman of her level of success, honestly to

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<v Speaker 3>say something like this. And I think what she said

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of women understand and relate to.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>For a long time, I put my career on hold

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<v Speaker 3>to be next to Gerard so he could play football.

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<v Speaker 3>Shakira said. They share two kids together. By the way

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<v Speaker 3>she said quote, there was a lot of sacrifice for love. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>what was interesting to me about this is, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm not sure I really thought of Shakira as

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<v Speaker 3>like having put her career on hold. But then I

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<v Speaker 3>stopped a thought about it, and I thought, well, she

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of did. Like I mean, we all still knew

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 3>who Shakira was, but she wasn't like putting out a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of new music she wasn't touring, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to me because I hear a lot of women

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<v Speaker 3>say this, and actually it was something that like women,

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<v Speaker 3>even female friends of ours, have like said to me before.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was maybe a concern that I had, not

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<v Speaker 3>really about putting my career on hold when we started dating,

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<v Speaker 3>but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, we've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 3>I was concerned, like you had such a level of

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<v Speaker 3>fame and I had no fame, and I was worried

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<v Speaker 3>that people would think that I was like trying to

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<v Speaker 3>use you for fame. I was worried about how your

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<v Speaker 3>career would like affect mine, or you know, these are

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<v Speaker 3>questions that I had. And then actually when we were

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<v Speaker 3>going to get married, I had a friend of ours

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<v Speaker 3>tell me to you know, not like get lost, make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that my career didn't get lost in yours. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was really more her projecting what she

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<v Speaker 3>felt had happened in her own life onto me. But

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<v Speaker 3>it also, you know, I get that she was coming

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<v Speaker 3>from a place of care because I was kind of like, well,

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 3>I've never stopped working. All we've done is, you know,

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 3>we're morphing into working together, and I've never felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>you've done anything but champion me and want our next

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<v Speaker 3>chapter to be us working together. But it was interesting

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<v Speaker 3>that even a woman on that level of power could

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<v Speaker 3>like have felt that pain.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, what it kind of reminded me a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of the Beckham documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Victoria and what the David Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, it's kind of one of those something's

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<v Speaker 1>got to give if you're going to and typically this

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<v Speaker 1>involves kids, right, and so the Beckham's were kind of

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>like that too. She's in the hospital having babies and he's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on stage with Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 2>And and Jalo posing photos.

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<v Speaker 1>For photos and and he comes in he's like, hey, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>do my hair, you know, for the photo out in

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<v Speaker 1>the hause, you know that kind of stuff. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it reminded me a lot of that documentary and they

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<v Speaker 1>were very open about that. And if you haven't watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, great documentary, and it sounds very similar

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<v Speaker 1>where Shakira is like, well, we had kids. He's playing

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<v Speaker 1>football and you know, he's in the Spanish league or

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he's playing with Barcelona, so his season's

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<v Speaker 1>on and someone's got to be there, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. And you look at Taylor Swift and Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Kelcey right now, clearly they're embracing each other's careers and

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<v Speaker 1>supporting each other. And I feel like it's easier when

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<v Speaker 1>you are younger, and it's easier when you don't have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But even for them, you know, when you look at

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Travis and Taylor, something's gonna have to give, or something

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<v Speaker 1>would if you truly want to be together. She's on

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<v Speaker 1>a world tour, his football season's coming up, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to training camp. Then he's got to go

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<v Speaker 1>So it's very interesting and and typically, to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to your point, when you enter into a relationship, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you find that it's often if it's the man or

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<v Speaker 1>the woman either way who's kind of the bigger breadwinner.

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, well, i'll support you because you're further

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<v Speaker 1>along and you're kind of crushing it, so that'll give

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>us a better life.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a biology factor, right like if you're the mom,

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 3>you probably you have to have the baby and go

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 3>on at journey, leave and breastfeed and all the maybe

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 3>and all these things you know or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What's interesting In the case of athletes, like you were

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<v Speaker 3>just talking about. I wonder for Shakira and Gerard if

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<v Speaker 3>there was a discussion of like, he probably only has

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<v Speaker 3>so many years he can play soccer, right, so if

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't do his job now, he'll have to stop

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 3>doing his job.

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<v Speaker 1>Which, by the way, good athletic point. You're very much right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, and I noticed this, and again I

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<v Speaker 1>this is not against athletes, but it's tough for these

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>guys to walk away. You see it with boxers that

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>come back for too many you know, boxing matches, and

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we saw it with Muhammad Ali it's like

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<v Speaker 1>stop coming back, and Michael Jordan returning it's like, no,

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>don't come back, you know, ind on top. And we

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>saw it with Beckham in that documentary of like finally

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's like, great, it's my time, and he's like, well,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go back and sign one more season

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>with a team that you know, all of a sudden,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>they'm moving from La oh, we're going back to France.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, we have friends who are professional coaches,

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and these coaches are finally done and then they get

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>pulled back in regarding what we'll call normal folks like us.

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<v Speaker 1>It is something I think every couple has to deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, and I totally like by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a professional athlete and a pop singer, these

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 3>are two career driven people. Like I say this with

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 3>no critique, you have to have a certain level of

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 3>ego to like get to that level of fame, of

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 3>belief in yourself of identity. And that's the thing is

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 3>our jobs are very much your identity, right, especially if

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 3>you're someone who's pasionate about your career. But I think

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>in America we put a lot into like what are

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 3>you going to be when you grow up? And so

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>your job is really part of your identity and that

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 3>becomes why it's hard for people to walk away or

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<v Speaker 3>why when you're doing the toughest job in the world,

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 3>being a stay at home parent, maybe you feel like,

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>what is my identity? And I hear that from so

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 3>many women that like you lose it and there's this

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>big shift when your kids leave the house or go

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>off to college because you're almost like retiring from your

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 3>job a little bit right or semi retiring.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never over.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd say it's one of the leading causes of

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<v Speaker 1>divorce in America. For sure is that come to Jesus

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>moment when kids are gone, or even not even when

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>they're gone. Sometimes it's just when they get to high

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>school and they're driving and you kind of realize you're

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>not needed that much anymore and you have defined yourself

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>by being the stay at home mom, stay at home dad,

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, and now you have to come

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to that realization of oh gosh, I now have to

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>figure my life out, and you look around you're like,

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>is this what I really want? So that is a huge,

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>huge part in a lot of marriages that sometimes does

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>lead to divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's such a beautiful thing again to

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 3>be a stay at home parent like my mom being

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 3>there for us as much as she was was incredible.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm so lucky. We were so blessed that we got

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 3>to have that. But at the same time, I really

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 3>had a moment of learning when my dad died because

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 3>my mom was a lawyer.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Had, you know, it is incredibly smart, had put her

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>career on hold, just like Shakira saying, to raise us.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 3>And when my dad died, she had really advised and

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 3>helped support my dad in his business a lot. But

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 3>suddenly she needed to find a job and she had

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 3>nothing on her resume for the last over a decade,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 3>and so it was really hard. And I just watched

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 3>her go through that and watched it kind of hurt

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>her self esteem, and it made me realize that if

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.040
<v Speaker 3>you can, if you're able to, I do think I

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 3>think it's really important for both partners in the relationship

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 3>to try to have something there, just a little something

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 3>they're doing outside of parenting, whether it's like you're involved

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 3>in organizations or you're and I mean, I can't imagine

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>how hard it is in time consuming it is to

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 3>raise kids. But I just would advise that, like you know,

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.479
<v Speaker 3>like I said, for my mom, it was just to

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 3>she had to go get a job and it became

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 3>very hard. And so I've always admired when couples have

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 3>made room for each other to try to have a

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 3>little something, because I also think that's better for the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when something defines you, no matter what it is

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that in this case it's parenting, When something defines you wholly,

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>when that's gone, you have to redefine yourself and find

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>a new definition. And that is a very difficult leap

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>to take. And it takes some understanding, some grace and

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of communication, or it can go south in

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a hurry.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think it's something we all have to have,

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of empathy for of you know, a

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of I feel like our friends right now are

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 3>going through that the kids are going to college thing,

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>and it is it's like, look, you have to this

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 3>is a change, this is a thing you have to

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 3>navigate because it's a huge shift in how your life's

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 3>been for And I.

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Would recommend if whoever the partner is that is at

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>work and has been working, and you've had the you've

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>had your definition of your business going, just make sure

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that you pay attention to what's at home and what

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that person's going through. Because it's really easy when you're

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the one that's been working, you're the breadwinner, you've been

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>doing all this, you get kind of defensive on your

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>own like, well, I've been the one making all the money,

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been paying the bills and not. Yeah you don't

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>think I'm stressed. Yes you are, and good on you

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>for doing all that for your family. But also just

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure you pay attention to the partner that has

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>been defined by something else. And that definition is gone.

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Help them pay attention to that, help them redefine and

0:32:51.600 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>find what they're passionate about.

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Last headline we're getting to today, So Jenna bush Hager

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 3>has talked about what it's like when other women flirt

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 3>with her husband.

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is such an interesting headline to me, because

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>first of all, I was kind of thinking, like, how

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>often does this happening?

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, someone called in and they brought it up on

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the Today Show with her and Hoe to copy, and

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>this woman was asking for advice. And there are two

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>schools of thought on this, but you know, Jenna was

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>saying she doesn't mind when.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she said it on her quote.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 3>This might be weird, but sometimes I like it when

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 3>people flirt with Henry. I'm just like a baby girl.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Still got it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said it's because I am very secure in

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<v Speaker 2>our relationship. I guess she is. I got to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>When I read this, my first reaction was, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would like it if other women

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<v Speaker 3>were flirting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't like I mean, other men flirt with

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<v Speaker 1>you all the time, and when I see it, they do, well,

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<v Speaker 1>people flirt with you, of course they do. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>bother me, Like, I don't get angry, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>something in this that that's different if it's when we're

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<v Speaker 1>out and about if someone's flirting with you and it's

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<v Speaker 1>someone we don't know and it's random whatever, because you

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<v Speaker 1>look beautiful or you're funny, whatever it is. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular case, if it's the same person, Oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>same friend keeps sitting on my husband, the same friend

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<v Speaker 1>keeps sitting on my wife, that gets weird. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if it's the same person doing this all the time

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<v Speaker 1>and always like says that inappropriate thing or pushes it,

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<v Speaker 1>that gets weird. But if it's just sure, but if

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<v Speaker 1>it's random, like, yeah, that just that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh int Okay, So maybe you and I have different

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I saw a random woman flirting with you,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess i'd be I'm I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I wouldn't love that. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>all in how you handle it. You know, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>in how you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to say something to you. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>like you did anything wrong, but well it is. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be like, oh I like that, it makes me

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<v Speaker 3>feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's how how does how does your spouse lean

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<v Speaker 1>into it? Or how do they deflect it or how

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<v Speaker 1>to they kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jenna's saying that she likes it because it makes

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<v Speaker 3>her feel like, oh she's got like yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that reaction. I'd be interested. Can anybody please

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<v Speaker 3>shoot me a DM. I'd love to talk this through,

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<v Speaker 3>like with another woman and see. Okay, well, let me

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<v Speaker 3>ask if you see a random guy flirting with me,

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<v Speaker 3>does that make you feel good?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, it definitely that. I don't get what

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<v Speaker 1>Jenna is saying. It's not like, oh, yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a hot wife, like I think you're beautiful. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need someone else to tell me you're right and so

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. That's not something I get pleasure out of.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of I certainly don't mind when but.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't bother me to the point where i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like get in the car and like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, of course, how did you do?

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<v Speaker 3>It's also kind of like maybe your definition of what

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<v Speaker 3>flirting is like when you just said other men flirt

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<v Speaker 3>with you all the time. I don't think about that,

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<v Speaker 3>but some people have different definitions of like to me,

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<v Speaker 3>talking and laughing isn't flirting. But some people, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>what's your definition of flirting?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's But like, look, we go to these

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<v Speaker 1>events and you'll be out on the dance floor because

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<v Speaker 1>you are the life of the party and you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>everybody dancing with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you got to get the party gone exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that you know what? I just I do

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<v Speaker 1>look at that with admiration and it's like, that's my girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I do take pleasure and just I

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<v Speaker 1>see you.

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly love that you're a social person who can

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<v Speaker 3>chat with anyone. I love seeing you like command a

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<v Speaker 3>room and have people talk to you. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 3>think I differ from Jenna on this. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>love watching it. And two, I agree with you of

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<v Speaker 3>someone if that same person is like always, I call

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<v Speaker 3>it testing the waters. Like you can kind of tell

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<v Speaker 3>when somebody's like, you know me, seeing how far they

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<v Speaker 3>can take it with you and I all love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess we're both super jealous people.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we deserve each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That's perfect. I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that we always try to find that balance

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<v Speaker 3>of supporting each other's careers while making sure that the

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<v Speaker 3>other person has family time and gets that time in.

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<v Speaker 3>And we didn't even really talk about our spring break enough.

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<v Speaker 3>We should have chatted about it more. It was great,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm also glad that no alleged deep fake AI

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<v Speaker 3>videos came out of us on spring Chat and.

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<v Speaker 1>We will keep our eyes out looking for Kate at

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<v Speaker 1>the local markets. Thanks for joining us. We always enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>chatting with you. We'll do it again next time because

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening.

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