1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren z E mccoming to you from 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the home office in Austin, Texas. Happy spring break, everybody. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I hope you made it through. This is what the 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: I think. It's the end of the three weeks of 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: all the spring breaks that everybody has taken with their kids, 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: and I hope you all survive. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: I think there's one more. There's a round of one more. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: I know, because we are actually going to my college, 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: University of Missouri, right to check out Josh's your son, 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: Josh has lacrosse game against Miszoo. And my only reason 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 3: I'm like a little bummed out is that we are 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: going and it's going to be spring break weekend, so 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: like I want you to have the full Miszoo experience 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: with the kids walking across the quad and all that, 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: and it might be a little quiet. 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: M I z z oh you baby. 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are going to go. Elz and I are 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: going back to college. We're going to go back to Missoo. 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: We're going to check out the Theta. How We're gonna 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm so excited around town. I'm excited too. 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: I loved going to Miszoo. 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: Miszoo at TCU when we first looked at it with 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: the kids, reminded me of Missoo and that they're both 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: very like, this is what you think college is supposed 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: to look like. There's a it's all centered around the quad. 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: The town is really into the college. It's like very 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 3: you know, it's not in the middle of some big city, 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: and you know, I mean, every college experience can be different, 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: but I remember thinking, I'm so glad I kind of 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: had the ultimate, you know, picturesque college. 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the Lourenzema statue, the Lauren 33 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Zema Square, and I think we actually are going to 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: talk to some mass calm students there, so it's going 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: to be fun. I'm looking forward to geting up the Miszoo. 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: So okay, I mean before we get there, there's not 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: a mass calm department at the University of Missouri. 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: The University of Missouri School of Journalisms. 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, oh gosh. 40 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: The number the first two I have to say it 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: with an accent, you have to say it with gravitas. 42 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: School of Judaism. 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: And we're not British, We're American. Okay, just have some 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: depth to it. This is the first ever journalism school 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: in the country. This is the number one journalism school 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: in the country. Okay, you can't go in there, saying 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: the mass Calm department, please have some respect. 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Oh man. Anyway, this week is gonna be great. 49 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: But we did just have a great weekend of spring 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 3: break because. 51 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Our kids were off last week. And yeah, so spring break. 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: We love the. 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: Flight prices that American Airlines gives us when they know 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: it's Texas school spring break. Dear Lord, I glance these 55 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: airline prices. They've gotten crazy to me. I glanced at 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: our I thought about maybe changing our flight back, because 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: we were in Mexico with your wonderful daughter Taylor and 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: three of her incredible friends. 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: They were such sweet girls. 60 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm so glad they have each other and that they 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: are prioritizing female friendships in college. Advice icon instantly give, 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: and I glanced at changing our flight if someone wanted 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: to get on our flight back. A flight from Cabos, 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: San Lucas to Austin, Texas was three three hundred dollars 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: a one way, one way ticket, basic economy. 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Fair. What's going on? What's going on? 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: I asked the flight attendant that. He said, there's an 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: algorithm now, it's all AI. There isn't like he said, 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: nobody sitting next to anybody is paying the same price 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: for any seat. 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: It's like to on demand Taylor swift eras tour ticket 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: pricing style all AI. 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: It's what they're doing with apartments now. And we can 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: get into this someday too, about the whole AI, about 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: how it's raising all the rents for everybody because it's 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: basically a monopoly. Now they are controlling the price, and 77 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: as soon as someone buys one apartment, they'll up the 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: next price and up the next price. So it's not 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: going to be just this flat rate for everybody. Same 80 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: thing used to be for airline tickets, right, they'd at 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: a price everybody would buy a ticket and they go 82 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: now as soon as more and more tickets are sold 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. 84 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: It is, set on demand algorithm thing, and so he. 85 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Said, never again will people pay the same price for tickets. 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: That's wild to me. 87 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: And here's what's nonsensical about And it makes me wonder 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: if they'll pull back. I would imagine I wonder if 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: they miss out on selling tickets like today, if you 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: needed that flight, I'd be like, well, I'm not going 91 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: to pay thirty. 92 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: Three floors at the executive office that just do this. 93 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: They just set pricing and just deal with. 94 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: These is it floors If people are computers or. 95 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Just computers, now, probably they've made the people obsolete. Now 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: it's just a setting the Yeah, because that's a big 97 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: thing with rent now and all these apartments, is that 98 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's essentially a monopoly. It's not the same company, 99 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: but it's a different kind of monopoly because all the 100 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: companies are basically working together to set the price, and 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: it will just go up and up, and so no 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: one's going to undercut anybody. No one's going to get 103 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: a deal. Same thing with these airlines. It's long gone 104 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: to the days where you're going to get a deal. 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: I mean, thirty three hundred dollars. I was like, let's 106 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 2: go to Europe. 107 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, it is cheaper to go to Europe than 108 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: it is to go I was sey domestically. 109 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Now I just got right, like I just got some 110 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: TikTok fed to me or an Instagram rule or something. 111 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: That's probably because I was annoyed in looking this up 112 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: where someone was talking about how it's you know, it's 113 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: ski season right now, that it's cheaper to fly to 114 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: France and go skiing in France than it is in 115 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: to go to Colorado. 116 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: I was like, well, take me to France, exactly, fly 117 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: me to France. I'll go. 118 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of British accents, I would love to not talk 119 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: about this because I'm going to put this in the 120 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift category of sure you would love to avoid it. 121 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: But when I noticed you and I have been talking 122 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: about something for three days straight, it's just what it's 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: what we got to talk about. We have been talking 124 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: about this. Kate, Kate Gate, water kits William water Kate. 125 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: Some people are saying water kak Kay. 126 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: I like that, but it is where and who is 127 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Kate Middleton? 128 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: Where? And who? Oh my god, it's you know this, 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: this conspiracy of. 130 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: Where is Kate? And the photo that was doctored? Is 131 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: she okay? And then the Palace say, you know, she 132 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: had abdominal surgery, don't expect to see her before Easter, 133 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and she's recovering, please respect her privacy, okay, And then 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she emerges with this doctored photo 135 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: that only stirred things up more Well, yesterday we finally 136 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: got living proof via a video from the Windsor Market 137 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: or did we or did this video just stir things 138 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: up even more so? 139 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: When something has reached your ears, then that is also 140 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: always a gauge to me that it's really getting weird 141 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: and people are really into it. I like, first, I 142 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: want to say, because I've been posting about Kate Gate 143 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: a little bit on Instagram, and I've gotten a lot 144 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: of people, mostly people who were like, oh my gosh, 145 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: I'm so invested what is going on? And then I'll 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: get a few people who are saying, I can't believe 147 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: you and Chris are even talking about this, because your 148 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: public figures and you need to respect her. I want 149 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: to make something clear. I've not criticized her in any way. 150 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: I've not criticized William even in any way, And I 151 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: do not want the paparazzi going out and hounding to 152 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: try to find pictures of Kate. What I am fascinated 153 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: by and what I am critiquing is the Palace's roll 154 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: out of this is the way that they've handled whatever 155 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: she's going through and how badly it's gone. I think 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: that this has done significant damage to the level of 157 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: trust and the level of respect that people have for 158 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: the royal family their role. 159 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Out of all this, it's been a mess and okay, 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: so much. 161 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts flooding through my head, and 162 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll start with what you just said. I don't know 163 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: if it is the fact that we don't trust the 164 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: media anymore, and I think that's a huge part of it. 165 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: Nobody trusts the media, So there's that and the fact 166 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: that I don't know we can trust the Royal Palace 167 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: anymore and their pr So there's this weird dichotomy going 168 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: on if I don't trust the palace and what they're 169 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: putting out, but then a lot of the stuff that's 170 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: hitting the media, and of course social media is not trustful, 171 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: so it's hard to find out where the truth is. 172 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: Like yesterday there was this big thing about the flags 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: that can anyone tell me why the flags at Buckingham 174 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Palace are at half staff? 175 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: They weren't because the conspiracy theories are at the point 176 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: of some people are like, Kate is dead. They're hiding 177 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: that she's dead, and I'm like, you, guys, the. 178 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: White Horse a month ago that went through and that 179 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: signifies somebody passed away, and then the flags are at 180 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: half staff. And then you know, somebody debunks that and says, 181 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: well that that picture was taken back in September. 182 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: Right, the video is old, they're not. 183 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Actually, you have to worry about all that stuff even 184 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: when And then can we just throw in Barack Obama. Now, 185 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Barack Obama is on Downing Street, he's an England Meetia 186 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: with the prime What does that have to do with it? 187 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: And then but honestly, as soon as I saw Barack 188 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Obama's video of him in England, my first thought was, 189 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't believe this was this from when he was president? 190 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, is this an old video as well? So well, 191 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: you do hard to corroborate this stuff. 192 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: You really have to. 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: Question what is what you see on Twitter, on TikTok, 194 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: on Instagram, because I think I don't know why it 195 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: is if it's because people want to go viral, or 196 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: if because they don't check out where they're getting stuff, 197 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: but they post things that are like, yeah, it's like 198 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: this old photo and people are posting it like it's new, 199 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: and then what is the truth becomes very confusing and 200 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: we live in that age and that is why I 201 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: really started getting into this Kate thing when it came 202 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: out that the photo of her on Mother's Day with 203 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: her kids was fully doctored, Because the issue to me 204 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: there is it's not an issue of oh, we airbrushed 205 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: a photo and you know, smoothed out some skin and 206 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: made somebody look a little better and had a really 207 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: good life. 208 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: He's a weird film. 209 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the 210 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: fact that it has been shown through the metadata of 211 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: the photo, that it was seemingly two or three different 212 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: photos comprised together, that Kate's face was not the face 213 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: like of that photo, and that it was presented as 214 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: if it was real. You can't be a public figure 215 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: creating and faking an official figure. I mean, the people 216 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: of England pay for the Royal family. 217 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: I think you hit a good point the other day 218 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: when you and I were talking about this, going back 219 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: to journalism in your school of journalism, you had. The 220 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: biggest issue was they sent that out as journalism to 221 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: news organizations, and you're sending that out as this is legit, 222 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: this is real. 223 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: You can't send a fake a photo of a faked moment, 224 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: a moment that never happened to the Associated Press, to Reuters, 225 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: to the AFP and say send this out for wide distribution. 226 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: If you want to put something up on your Instagram, 227 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: that's your right, right. But those agencies are supposed to 228 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: be sending out images that are only true. 229 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: And there's a difference between you put a filter on 230 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: it and you fix your you know, a bruise or 231 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: a beauty marker. So there's a difference between that and 232 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: actually doctoring and faking a moment that didn't happen. That's 233 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: the big difference here. We all use filters. Now, flash 234 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: forward to this TMZ video. This was and I just 235 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: saw something just two seconds ago. They ran the metadata 236 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: and TMZ is going back over this saying, guys, this 237 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: metadata shows this video was taken live Saturday. This did happen. Now, 238 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: was that Kate? Was that William? All that stuff? You 239 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: can argue that all the day, all day long. But 240 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: so TMZ's backing up the fact that they released this 241 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: as news. This moment happened in time. Whoever that woman is, 242 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: it's Kate or if it's some other woman, we don't 243 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: know because it doesn't look a lot like Kate. I'll 244 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: be honest, but that we can confirmed did happen Saturday? 245 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so the market. 246 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: So I think with the reason that we keep talking 247 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: about this now is because every thing that's happened has 248 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: a weird angle to it. So this all started if 249 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: you've really been living under I rock. The cliffs Notes 250 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: version is over right after the holidays. The Palace says 251 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: that Kate is going to have a planned abdominal surgery 252 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: and she will be out of public appearances. She won't 253 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: be seen until Easter, and everyone's kind of like, whoa that. 254 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: First of all, she had a trip planned for Italy 255 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: in early January that got canceled, so it doesn't really 256 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: sound like a planned surgery. If you also had a 257 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: planned trip you canceled, that's a little weird. And the 258 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: fact that she's going to be out for a while 259 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: kind of raises some red flags. But you know, hey, 260 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: whatever the surgery is, she doesn't have to share her 261 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: medical stuff with everybody, even though she's a public figure. 262 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: I get that, but it was a little weird. So 263 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: they started out with that, that's weird. Then she's really 264 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: not seen, not even like you know, seen going to 265 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: and from someone's house, not seen, and that's a little 266 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: weird because if we remember Prince Philip when he was 267 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 3: like in his late nineties, Yeah, there were some picks 268 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: of him in a car and we were like, oh 269 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: my god, let the man rest. I mean, so, while 270 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: we didn't expect her public appearance as official appearances, it 271 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: was a little weird that she literally wasn't seen anywhere. 272 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Then we get a picture of her in a car, 273 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: but she doesn't totally look like Kate. She looks a 274 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: little different. Now, maybe it's something medical that's going on. 275 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to it's not that she looks bad, 276 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: but she doesn't totally look like Kate. Then we get 277 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: a picture of her in a car with William, but 278 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: you can't really see her face at all. It's like 279 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: her from the back. 280 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: That's weird. 281 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: Then we get the doctored photo on Mother's Day that's 282 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: completely fabricated. Now we have this video, and here's what's 283 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: weird about the video. To me, I'm glad TMZ said 284 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: that the metadata showed it was taken on Saturday. 285 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: But if she is out at a. 286 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: Farmer's market, the windsor little local market, right, and at 287 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: this point everyone in the world is talking about this story, 288 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: I would think everyone would have been whipping out their 289 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: phones filming it, like, oh my gosh, it's Kate and 290 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: Will and all we get is one video from very 291 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: far away. It just feels odd to me, like that's 292 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: like there's all every. 293 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: Single one of these instances. Something is a little off, 294 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: that's the thing. 295 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I don't want 296 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: to care about this and the royal family is I'm 297 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: really I'm not that interested in any of this stuff. 298 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: But nothing has made sense. Nothing has been the lowest 299 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: common denominator of just here she is here, Look, she's speaking, 300 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: she's alive. The video of this woman, whoever that is, 301 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: was not only not injured, hrt sick. She was gallivanting, 302 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: like almost skipping through this market completely fine, as if 303 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: nothing has ever happened to her a day in her life. 304 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: None of this makes sense. Somebody's got to make it 305 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: make sense to me. 306 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: I just can't believe, Like, even if the people of 307 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: England are quite respectful of Will and Kate, I can't 308 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: believe that at this point, at this stage in the story, 309 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: when everyone knows that, like the world over is talking 310 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: about this, that a few people didn't like pull out 311 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: their iPhone which everybody has, and like, take a couple 312 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: of picks. 313 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: If if you had, if this had. 314 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: Been she showed up at a market and lots of 315 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: people got pictures and took videos, I'd be like, Okay, 316 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: there she is. She's fine, but it's just a little weird. 317 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: And someone mentioned this as a bruder film of you know, 318 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: the famous JFK film of trying to fit. It's like, 319 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: that's how I feel we're looking at It's like, you know, 320 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: people are trying to unblur the image, like again, help 321 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: me make sense of this. And that's all I'm saying. 322 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: I hope she's okay, God bless her. This is crazy, 323 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: but they can end this. 324 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 325 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't want this on her, don't want to put 326 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: this on her, but just by the way you can 327 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: put it into it so quickly, and that's where when 328 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: people get on you or you know, a message, you'd 329 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: be like, oh, how dare you? Just let her live? Okay? 330 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: They are famous to be famous, that is their job. 331 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: Their their job is to be famous. Their royal family. 332 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: They don't really have a job. It's not a title. 333 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: It's a self proclaimed title from this family. But so 334 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: just if your job is to be famous, your job 335 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: is to be seen, as they say in the Crown 336 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, part of my job is to 337 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: be seen. 338 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: When the Queen Elizabeth quote was a real quote, is 339 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: she said I have to be seen to be believed. 340 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: So Kate could put an end to this in two 341 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: point two seconds and just put out a video of guys, 342 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're worried about me, and dah dah 343 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: da dah you saw me at the market the other day. 344 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know I feel all 345 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: your prayers and well wishes. I'm doing great. I'll see 346 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: you soon. 347 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: Boom, We'll see that. And that's it, I know. And 348 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: that's what I don't get. 349 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: That's what I don't get because now I've heard some 350 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: people point out and this is part of like the 351 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: Royal families outdated. I think media policies apparently they like 352 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: are like no selfie videos on social media, that's not 353 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: something they allow, okay, But the Queen of England did 354 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: an address every year, a video address at Christmas. It's 355 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: not weird for them to do video messages, so why 356 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: can't they just if Kate's added a farmer's market. Send 357 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: someone with a camera to her house and have her 358 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: film a quick, sweet video. 359 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, or make one of those royal appearances you know 360 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: when they like, like you mentioned, when she had a baby. 361 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: Well, but this is what everyone well, I know, okay, 362 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: everyone's saying they kind of trotted her out after each baby. 363 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: I mean, hours after giving earth she's standing in heels 364 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: and address outside the hospital holding that baby. You want 365 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: to talk about an abdominal surgery. I mean, she just 366 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: had a baby, and they took photos of her hours 367 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: later after each of the three kids. 368 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: If she's that healthy, just walk her out, William, and 369 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, they don't ask, have to ask questions, just 370 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: walk out, give the royal wave, right hey guys. 371 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: Well so then this is when people make the argument 372 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: of but she told us she wanted some privacy to 373 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: recover from the surgery, okay, And then to that, I say, 374 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: this is why I think the Palace is just handling 375 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: it wrong. They should have just given people regular updates. 376 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: Part of what this came out of is they were like, 377 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: there won't be any updates. They literally send a statement 378 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: there won't be updates. Well that's a little weird. I 379 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: would have and William has been at these public appearances. 380 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: Just tell people, Hey, everybody, he could have said something. Hey, everyone, 381 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: just want you to know. Kate wishes she could be 382 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: or she continues to recover. She sends her lest he's. 383 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: That's the other thing. 384 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: The husband, William has given speeches in the last few 385 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: weeks as if none of this is happening. It's it's 386 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: not gaslighting, but maybe that is the term of just 387 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: stop making me feel crazy. Stop making me feel crazy 388 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: for just trying to figure out what's going on. And 389 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: every time I think I got a handle on this, 390 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: you guys do something crazier. 391 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: This is really affecting. 392 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I feel nuts because it's just, you know, when you 393 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: and I always talk about these things when we get 394 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: into journalism, when we get into stories, and you and 395 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: I always dig deep in all these stories when it 396 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: comes to news, and it's like when things don't make sense, 397 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: when things don't pass the smell test, that's when I 398 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: get intrigued. They've made me vested in this story because 399 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: none of this makes sense. It's bonkers. 400 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we're the idiots and it's all really brilliant 401 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: because they've gotten everyone talking about the road fan. 402 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: You and I Well, as we were leaving the airport yesterday, 403 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: I thought, is this are they thinking the next season 404 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: of The Crown is not written and so we just 405 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: have to come up with the most bizarre story. 406 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't need to get a cut of the Crown. 407 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: That that's the problem. Ibe. 408 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: Maybe they worked out a deal behind the scenes that Netflix, 409 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: and now we'll get a cut in or. 410 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean I thought about this too. You know, we 411 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: grew up in the world of the Kardashians. Are are 412 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: they so savvy? And I don't think they are, because 413 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: if we've learned anything from all this, the press are 414 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: so disjointed over there, and the press meaning the pr 415 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: people of the you know, Kate has her people, William 416 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: has her people. You know, Megan and Harry had their people, 417 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: et cetera. And they're all kind of contradictory, and they 418 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: don't really have any synergy. And so I don't think 419 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: they're smart enough to do this. But it would be 420 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: brilliant if this was all contrived to just make the 421 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: royal family. 422 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: Well, because here's the thing. When we finally do see Kate, 423 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna. 424 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: Be like, Oh, she loves yay, I love you Kate 425 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: like I Like I said, I have no critique of Kate. 426 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: I don't want her hounded and I don't want to 427 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't need to know if she's going through a 428 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: private medical issue. I just think either A, the rollout 429 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: of this was such a mess and they need to 430 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: like have handled it better, have updates and things. If 431 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: they had just given people a few regular updates, like 432 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: like I'm talking once a month, you know, release a 433 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 3: real photo of her, or have her do a VID 434 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 3: or just release a statement or have William say something, 435 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: it could have been a lot better. But B maybe 436 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: it's just brilliant and maybe they got everyone's eyes and 437 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: ears back on will and Kate and we're all really 438 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: interested invested again and it's a resurgence of we want 439 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: to know everything about you and it's really smart. 440 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, But when in what world does a 441 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: video make things more confusing? And that in this day 442 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: and age where it's like oh, okay, great, there you go. 443 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: That video, it speaks to the day and age we're 444 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: in right with AI. With deep fakes, people are going 445 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: to question everything on a level they never did before. 446 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: And again that's why I think, like what truth is 447 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 3: becomes even more important, and I and the royal family 448 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: is going to have to like find ways to navigate 449 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: this now. 450 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Like, why doesn't that woman look like Kate? I think 451 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: this is this is how crazy this has gotten me. 452 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: And again for someone who was at his zero and 453 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: now I'm at a twelve, I'm sitting here comparing picture 454 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: old pictures of Kate to this video of Kate to 455 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: old pictures of Kate to this, I'm like, this is 456 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: what it's turned me into. I've become Colombo. I'm on 457 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: the case. So clearly my thing is this isn't over. 458 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: There is more weirdness to come. Something else will happen 459 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: this week that's weirder than the last thing, and it's 460 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: only going to stir things up even more. Obviously, she's 461 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: the most sought after person in the world right now, 462 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: so the fact that there weren't a thousand paparazzi at 463 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: the Windsor Open air Market seems a little odd. So 464 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: there we go, Kate Gate, all right. Next up Shakira. 465 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: She is split up with. 466 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: Her husband Gerard. Do you know how to say this? Last? Nay? 467 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he's a football he's a soccer player. 468 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: He is a massive, massive Spanish football player. Okay spent 469 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the majority of his career obviously played for his country 470 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: in Spain, but played for Barcelona along with Messi. He's 471 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: a massive, massive international rock star. 472 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: So they had quite a messy split in the past 473 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: couple of years, and they were together for a long time, 474 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: though they were together for over a decade. And she's 475 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: done a new interview with The Sunday Times. And the 476 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: reason this caught my eye is because I did not 477 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: expect a woman of her level of success, honestly to 478 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: say something like this. And I think what she said 479 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: a lot of women understand and relate to. 480 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: Quote. 481 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: For a long time, I put my career on hold 482 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: to be next to Gerard so he could play football. 483 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: Shakira said. They share two kids together. By the way 484 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: she said quote, there was a lot of sacrifice for love. Now, 485 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: what was interesting to me about this is, like I said, 486 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: I I'm not sure I really thought of Shakira as 487 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: like having put her career on hold. But then I 488 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: stopped a thought about it, and I thought, well, she 489 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: kind of did. Like I mean, we all still knew 490 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: who Shakira was, but she wasn't like putting out a 491 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: lot of new music she wasn't touring, and that was 492 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: interesting to me because I hear a lot of women 493 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: say this, and actually it was something that like women, 494 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: even female friends of ours, have like said to me before. 495 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: And it was maybe a concern that I had, not 496 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: really about putting my career on hold when we started dating, 497 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: but you. 498 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: Know, we've talked about this before. 499 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: I was concerned, like you had such a level of 500 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: fame and I had no fame, and I was worried 501 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: that people would think that I was like trying to 502 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: use you for fame. I was worried about how your 503 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 3: career would like affect mine, or you know, these are 504 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 3: questions that I had. And then actually when we were 505 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: going to get married, I had a friend of ours 506 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: tell me to you know, not like get lost, make 507 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: sure that my career didn't get lost in yours. And 508 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: I think that was really more her projecting what she 509 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: felt had happened in her own life onto me. But 510 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: it also, you know, I get that she was coming 511 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 3: from a place of care because I was kind of like, well, 512 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: I've never stopped working. All we've done is, you know, 513 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: we're morphing into working together, and I've never felt like, 514 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: you've done anything but champion me and want our next 515 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: chapter to be us working together. But it was interesting 516 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: that even a woman on that level of power could 517 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: like have felt that pain. 518 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: To me, what it kind of reminded me a little 519 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: bit of the Beckham documentary. 520 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Oh Victoria and what the David Yeah. 521 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: Because you know, it's kind of one of those something's 522 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: got to give if you're going to and typically this 523 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: involves kids, right, and so the Beckham's were kind of 524 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: like that too. She's in the hospital having babies and he's, 525 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, on stage with Beyonce. 526 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: And and Jalo posing photos. 527 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: For photos and and he comes in he's like, hey, babe, 528 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: do my hair, you know, for the photo out in 529 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: the hause, you know that kind of stuff. And so 530 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: it reminded me a lot of that documentary and they 531 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: were very open about that. And if you haven't watched it, 532 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: by the way, great documentary, and it sounds very similar 533 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: where Shakira is like, well, we had kids. He's playing 534 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: football and you know, he's in the Spanish league or 535 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's playing with Barcelona, so his season's 536 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: on and someone's got to be there, and so it's 537 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: very interesting. And you look at Taylor Swift and Travis 538 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: Kelcey right now, clearly they're embracing each other's careers and 539 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: supporting each other. And I feel like it's easier when 540 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: you are younger, and it's easier when you don't have kids. 541 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: But even for them, you know, when you look at 542 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: Travis and Taylor, something's gonna have to give, or something 543 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: would if you truly want to be together. She's on 544 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: a world tour, his football season's coming up, he's got 545 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: to go to training camp. Then he's got to go 546 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: So it's very interesting and and typically, to get back 547 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: to your point, when you enter into a relationship, don't 548 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: you find that it's often if it's the man or 549 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: the woman either way who's kind of the bigger breadwinner. 550 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, i'll support you because you're further 551 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: along and you're kind of crushing it, so that'll give 552 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: us a better life. 553 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: There's a biology factor, right like if you're the mom, 554 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: you probably you have to have the baby and go 555 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: on at journey, leave and breastfeed and all the maybe 556 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: and all these things you know or I don't know. 557 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 3: What's interesting In the case of athletes, like you were 558 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: just talking about. I wonder for Shakira and Gerard if 559 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: there was a discussion of like, he probably only has 560 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: so many years he can play soccer, right, so if 561 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: he doesn't do his job now, he'll have to stop 562 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: doing his job. 563 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Which, by the way, good athletic point. You're very much right. 564 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: But you know, and I noticed this, and again I 565 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: this is not against athletes, but it's tough for these 566 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: guys to walk away. You see it with boxers that 567 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: come back for too many you know, boxing matches, and 568 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, we saw it with Muhammad Ali it's like 569 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: stop coming back, and Michael Jordan returning it's like, no, 570 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: don't come back, you know, ind on top. And we 571 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: saw it with Beckham in that documentary of like finally 572 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: you know, she's like, great, it's my time, and he's like, well, 573 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and sign one more season 574 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: with a team that you know, all of a sudden, 575 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: they'm moving from La oh, we're going back to France. 576 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: And and you know, we have friends who are professional coaches, 577 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: and these coaches are finally done and then they get 578 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: pulled back in regarding what we'll call normal folks like us. 579 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: It is something I think every couple has to deal with. 580 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I totally like by the way, 581 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: I mean a professional athlete and a pop singer, these 582 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: are two career driven people. Like I say this with 583 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: no critique, you have to have a certain level of 584 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: ego to like get to that level of fame, of 585 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: belief in yourself of identity. And that's the thing is 586 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: our jobs are very much your identity, right, especially if 587 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: you're someone who's pasionate about your career. But I think 588 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: in America we put a lot into like what are 589 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: you going to be when you grow up? And so 590 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: your job is really part of your identity and that 591 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: becomes why it's hard for people to walk away or 592 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: why when you're doing the toughest job in the world, 593 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: being a stay at home parent, maybe you feel like, 594 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: what is my identity? And I hear that from so 595 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: many women that like you lose it and there's this 596 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: big shift when your kids leave the house or go 597 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: off to college because you're almost like retiring from your 598 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: job a little bit right or semi retiring. 599 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: It's never over. 600 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: But I'd say it's one of the leading causes of 601 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: divorce in America. For sure is that come to Jesus 602 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: moment when kids are gone, or even not even when 603 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: they're gone. Sometimes it's just when they get to high 604 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: school and they're driving and you kind of realize you're 605 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: not needed that much anymore and you have defined yourself 606 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: by being the stay at home mom, stay at home dad, 607 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and now you have to come 608 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: to that realization of oh gosh, I now have to 609 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: figure my life out, and you look around you're like, 610 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: is this what I really want? So that is a huge, 611 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: huge part in a lot of marriages that sometimes does 612 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: lead to divorce. 613 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: So I think it's such a beautiful thing again to 614 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: be a stay at home parent like my mom being 615 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: there for us as much as she was was incredible. 616 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: I'm so lucky. We were so blessed that we got 617 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: to have that. But at the same time, I really 618 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: had a moment of learning when my dad died because 619 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: my mom was a lawyer. 620 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: I mean, my mom. 621 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: Had, you know, it is incredibly smart, had put her 622 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: career on hold, just like Shakira saying, to raise us. 623 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: And when my dad died, she had really advised and 624 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: helped support my dad in his business a lot. But 625 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: suddenly she needed to find a job and she had 626 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: nothing on her resume for the last over a decade, 627 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 3: and so it was really hard. And I just watched 628 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: her go through that and watched it kind of hurt 629 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: her self esteem, and it made me realize that if 630 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: you can, if you're able to, I do think I 631 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: think it's really important for both partners in the relationship 632 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: to try to have something there, just a little something 633 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: they're doing outside of parenting, whether it's like you're involved 634 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: in organizations or you're and I mean, I can't imagine 635 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: how hard it is in time consuming it is to 636 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: raise kids. But I just would advise that, like you know, 637 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 3: like I said, for my mom, it was just to 638 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: she had to go get a job and it became 639 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: very hard. And so I've always admired when couples have 640 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: made room for each other to try to have a 641 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: little something, because I also think that's better for the relationship. 642 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: Well, when something defines you, no matter what it is 643 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: that in this case it's parenting, When something defines you wholly, 644 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: when that's gone, you have to redefine yourself and find 645 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: a new definition. And that is a very difficult leap 646 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: to take. And it takes some understanding, some grace and 647 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of communication, or it can go south in 648 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: a hurry. 649 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it's something we all have to have, 650 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: like a lot of empathy for of you know, a 651 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: lot of I feel like our friends right now are 652 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: going through that the kids are going to college thing, 653 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: and it is it's like, look, you have to this 654 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 3: is a change, this is a thing you have to 655 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: navigate because it's a huge shift in how your life's 656 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: been for And I. 657 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: Would recommend if whoever the partner is that is at 658 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: work and has been working, and you've had the you've 659 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: had your definition of your business going, just make sure 660 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: that you pay attention to what's at home and what 661 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: that person's going through. Because it's really easy when you're 662 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: the one that's been working, you're the breadwinner, you've been 663 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: doing all this, you get kind of defensive on your 664 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: own like, well, I've been the one making all the money, 665 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: I've been paying the bills and not. Yeah you don't 666 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: think I'm stressed. Yes you are, and good on you 667 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: for doing all that for your family. But also just 668 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: make sure you pay attention to the partner that has 669 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: been defined by something else. And that definition is gone. 670 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: Help them pay attention to that, help them redefine and 671 00:32:51,600 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: find what they're passionate about. 672 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: Last headline we're getting to today, So Jenna bush Hager 673 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: has talked about what it's like when other women flirt 674 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: with her husband. 675 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is such an interesting headline to me, because 676 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: first of all, I was kind of thinking, like, how 677 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: often does this happening? 678 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: Well, someone called in and they brought it up on 679 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: the Today Show with her and Hoe to copy, and 680 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: this woman was asking for advice. And there are two 681 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: schools of thought on this, but you know, Jenna was 682 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: saying she doesn't mind when. 683 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, she said it on her quote. 684 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: This might be weird, but sometimes I like it when 685 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: people flirt with Henry. I'm just like a baby girl. 686 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: Still got it. 687 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: And she said it's because I am very secure in 688 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: our relationship. I guess she is. I got to be honest. 689 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: When I read this, my first reaction was, I don't think. 690 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: I don't think I would like it if other women 691 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: were flirting with you. 692 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Well, I don't like I mean, other men flirt with 693 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: you all the time, and when I see it, they do, well, 694 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: people flirt with you, of course they do. It doesn't 695 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: bother me, Like, I don't get angry, but there was 696 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: something in this that that's different if it's when we're 697 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: out and about if someone's flirting with you and it's 698 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: someone we don't know and it's random whatever, because you 699 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: look beautiful or you're funny, whatever it is. But in 700 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: this particular case, if it's the same person, Oh, the 701 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: same friend keeps sitting on my husband, the same friend 702 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: keeps sitting on my wife, that gets weird. And so 703 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: if it's the same person doing this all the time 704 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: and always like says that inappropriate thing or pushes it, 705 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: that gets weird. But if it's just sure, but if 706 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: it's random, like, yeah, that just that's going to happen. 707 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: Oh int Okay, So maybe you and I have different 708 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: Like if I saw a random woman flirting with you, 709 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: I guess i'd be I'm I don't know. 710 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: I think it's I wouldn't love that. I think it's 711 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: all in how you handle it. You know, it's all 712 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: in how you know. 713 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say something to you. It's not 714 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: like you did anything wrong, but well it is. I 715 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't be like, oh I like that, it makes me 716 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 3: feel good. 717 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's how how does how does your spouse lean 718 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: into it? Or how do they deflect it or how 719 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: to they kind of. 720 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 3: But Jenna's saying that she likes it because it makes 721 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: her feel like, oh she's got like yeah, and I 722 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: don't have that reaction. I'd be interested. Can anybody please 723 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: shoot me a DM. I'd love to talk this through, 724 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: like with another woman and see. Okay, well, let me 725 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: ask if you see a random guy flirting with me, 726 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 3: does that make you feel good? 727 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: No? No, no, it definitely that. I don't get what 728 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: Jenna is saying. It's not like, oh, yeah, I got 729 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: a hot wife, like I think you're beautiful. I don't 730 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: need someone else to tell me you're right and so 731 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: thank you. That's not something I get pleasure out of. 732 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: That's kind of I certainly don't mind when but. 733 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me to the point where i'd be 734 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: like get in the car and like. 735 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Well, right, of course, how did you do? 736 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 3: It's also kind of like maybe your definition of what 737 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 3: flirting is like when you just said other men flirt 738 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: with you all the time. I don't think about that, 739 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: but some people have different definitions of like to me, 740 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 3: talking and laughing isn't flirting. But some people, I don't know, 741 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: what's your definition of flirting? 742 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's But like, look, we go to these 743 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: events and you'll be out on the dance floor because 744 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: you are the life of the party and you'll have 745 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: everybody dancing with you. 746 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: Well, you got to get the party gone exactly. 747 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: But is that you know what? I just I do 748 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: look at that with admiration and it's like, that's my girl, 749 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, And I do take pleasure and just I 750 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: see you. 751 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 3: I certainly love that you're a social person who can 752 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: chat with anyone. I love seeing you like command a 753 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: room and have people talk to you. Yeah, I just 754 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: think I differ from Jenna on this. I'm not gonna 755 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 3: love watching it. And two, I agree with you of 756 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 3: someone if that same person is like always, I call 757 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: it testing the waters. Like you can kind of tell 758 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: when somebody's like, you know me, seeing how far they 759 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 3: can take it with you and I all love that. 760 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 2: Well, I guess we're both super jealous people. 761 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: Then we deserve each other. 762 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: That's perfect. I love you. 763 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad that we always try to find that balance 764 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 3: of supporting each other's careers while making sure that the 765 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: other person has family time and gets that time in. 766 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: And we didn't even really talk about our spring break enough. 767 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: We should have chatted about it more. It was great, 768 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 3: but I'm also glad that no alleged deep fake AI 769 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 3: videos came out of us on spring Chat and. 770 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: We will keep our eyes out looking for Kate at 771 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: the local markets. Thanks for joining us. We always enjoy 772 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: chatting with you. We'll do it again next time because 773 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. 774 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever, 775 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: and make sure to write us a review and leave 776 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: us five stars. 777 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you next time.