1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a new twist in the 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: desperate search for a beloved TV anchor who vanishes on 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: her way to work. Does an alleged confession shed light 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: on what happened to Jody? Who's in Trut. I'm Nancy Grace. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: being with us. It was early, early morning, still dark outside. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: June twenty seven, Jody Husen Trut was woken up by 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: the sound of her phone ringing. It was four am 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: and she was late for the morning shift at KIMT TV, 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Mason City, Iowa. She sounded like she was asleep. She 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: apologized and headed to the station, got herself together and 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: was never seen again. Somewhere in the very short walk 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: between her apartment and her car, she was kidnapped four 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: a m. The items she gathered together were strewn around 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: her Mazda. Drag marks on the asphalt suggested a struggle. 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Her case remains unsolved. These are the facts. 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Today's forecast shows mostly windy and cool temperatures with scattered 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: showers or high as expected. 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: To be in the upper sixties. 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: The clouds will continue through this evening. 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: Showers will end, but the windy and cool temperatures will prevail. 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: Saint Cloud State's increase enrollment. 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Has not been enough to make Eastman's not Listener take 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: on any dramatic changes this year. But the telegrapher Marien Slater, 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: I am Jody who was insured for you TBS news. 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Just hearing her voice seemingly makes this all so real. 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Now you're hearing Jody's voice when she was a student 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: reporter at Saint Cloud University for the campus TV station, 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: University TV, and she went on from there to become 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: a rising star in the TV industry, really making her mark. 31 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: The viewers were enthralled by her. They gravitated torture, not 32 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: just because of her good looks, not just because she 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: was prepared and articulate, but she had a warmth about 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: her that seemingly went out across the airwaves to everybody watching. 35 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Beloved in her market until suddenly she just goes missing. 36 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Let me introduce to you an all star panel to 37 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: help figure out where is Jody Husing shrewd. First of all, 38 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: the tip line nine seven zero four or five eight 39 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: Jody Jodi nine seven zero four five eight five six 40 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: three four with me Jay Alberio, former Commander Woodbury Police Department, 41 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Investigative Unit Manager, Woodbury Public Safety, former US Marine. You 42 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: can find him right now at Findjody dot com. Doctor Jorykrasin, psychologist, 43 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: faculties Leo University, consultant and author of Operation s OS 44 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: with Me. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags. 45 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: You can find her at Wendypatrick PhD dot com and 46 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: she's the host of Today with Doctor Wendy on KCBQ 47 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: San Diego. Investigative journalist. You can also find her at 48 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Fine Jody dot com and she is the founder of 49 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: the Fine Jody podcast. She's also a Caroline Low TV. 50 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Caroline Low joining us, but first to a very special 51 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: guest joining us. This is Jody's sister, Joanne Nathy. Joanne, 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. 53 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: Well, thank you again for having me. 54 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Jillianne. It's unfathomable to me how someone that is so 55 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: present in the lives of her local TV community can 56 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: just disappear. It's like someone just cut off the TV 57 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and she's gone at the end of it. It seems 58 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: very very surreal. 59 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, we never, you know, anticipate anything like this ever happening. 60 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: We thought Jody would be safe in Mason City. It 61 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: wasn't that big of a community, and she just she 62 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 5: took a lot of safety courses and stuff, and she 63 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: she was careful, she really was. She wanted to have 64 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: a good reputation in the community. And yeah, we were 65 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 5: just stunned. I mean when it happened in ninety five, 66 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: and of course it's been really hard and everybody, not 67 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 5: just the family, it's friends. She meant a lot to 68 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 5: so many people. 69 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember when you first learned Jody was missing. 70 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember it very well. What happened, Well, we 71 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: were on a bus trip up north, my mom and 72 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 5: aunt just oh with the group of ladies, you know, 73 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: and we were going to this casino because some ninety 74 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: five the casinos well they had started prior to ninety five, 75 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 5: but anyway, it was going to be a fun day. 76 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: And so we were up in Walker, Minnesota, and then 77 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: they asked us to come to the room when we 78 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 5: got there and that there was an emergency phone call. 79 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 5: It was shortly after we arrived, and so we came 80 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 5: in and they said it's from Mason City. And right 81 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 5: away my mom said, oh, no, Jody, And we thought 82 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 5: maybe she'd been in a car accident, That's what I thought, 83 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: and she'll be okay, you know, she'll But then when 84 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: Halverson said, oh, she's missing, Joanne, are you sitting down? 85 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 5: And I said missing, Well, we'll find her, you know, 86 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 5: there's some mistake. Why would she be missing, you know. 87 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 5: But then we got pretty nervous and about it all, 88 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: of course, and we left. They provided a vehicle for 89 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 5: us to go back to Long Purrie. They brought us. 90 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 5: It was quite a drive too, but it was very hard. 91 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 5: And then we got back and nobody had found her, 92 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 5: you know, by the end of the day, and so 93 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: then we were getting very worried. But we thought it'd 94 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: be that it was some kind of a mistake, that 95 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: she would be found and she'd be okay. That was 96 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 5: their original thought. 97 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: You know. To doctor Jory Kraus in psychologist Faculty, Saint 98 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Leo University joining us doctor Drury, I know I'm projecting 99 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: right now, but I've also seen it with many, many 100 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: other crime victims. When I first was told my fiance 101 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: it was dead, at first, I thought there was some 102 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: kind of a mix up and if I could just 103 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: get to him, I could fix it, and I could 104 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: get him to the hospital and everything would be okay. 105 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: I thought there had been a car crash, just like 106 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: what joe Ane Nathee is saying about Jodie Houston truth 107 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: and I know you hear her saying, well, we thought 108 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: it was a car accident, then we thought missing. Well, 109 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: there's just some mix that we're going to fix this. 110 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Why is our mind? Why do I minds go to 111 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: something that we can comprehend? Like I couldn't comprehend that 112 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Keith had been shot five times in the face and 113 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: the neck and the head in the back. That was 114 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: hard for me. That would never have occurred to me 115 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: that that could have happened. Just like with Joe and Nathy, 116 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Jody's sister, she really thought, oh, there's been a car crash, missing, 117 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: What this is wrong? We're gonna We're going to get 118 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: this all straightened out. Why is that? What is that? 119 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 6: It starts off as like a protective mechanism for ourselves, 120 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 6: you know, to try to make some positive sense out 121 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 6: of it. You know, the term we use is closure, uh, 122 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: And it's not like closing up the you know, the event, 123 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 6: but it's trying to make sense out of ambiguity. And 124 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 6: you know, you think of well, maybe it was a 125 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 6: car accident. They're okay, they're going to be found. You 126 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 6: continue to put the positive perspective on it, and it 127 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 6: helps kind of keep you stayed. So as you take 128 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 6: in more information, you can, you know, better assess it 129 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 6: and apply it to the situation. 130 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 7: Is this some sort of a defense mechanism, Well, I 131 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 7: call it more of a protective mechanism, you know, trying 132 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 7: to keep you know, that stress level down so you can. 133 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 6: Keep a rational cognitive process going on with the information 134 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 6: that you're taking in. You know, some people they react, 135 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 6: you know just where they totally break down and you 136 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 6: know they're not able to do anything. 137 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: Yea. 138 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: I take a listen to our friend Ross Cugis KSTP 139 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: TV son and I just woken her up. 140 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 8: Amy Coons called Jody's apartment at four a m. The 141 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 8: morning Jody disappeared. 142 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: I wondered if anything was going on, like maybe somebody 143 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: was in her apartment. 144 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Now, I listened for other voices. 145 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 8: Jody had said she had overslept and would be right in. 146 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 8: At four twenty that morning, Tenant's hear screams in the 147 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 8: parking lot. 148 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: Jody has never heard from again. 149 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Caroline Load founded a podcast called Find Jody Podcast. You 150 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: can find her also at Caroline low TV. Caroline, thank 151 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: you for being with us. You've been on the case 152 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: for some time. Let's start at the beginning. What do 153 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: we know of the last time that Jody was seen alive? 154 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: No wait, no, let's start with the scene. Let's start 155 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: with her place where she was. What do we know. 156 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 9: What we know is it appears that whatever happened to 157 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 9: Jody happened in the parking lot right adjacent to her building. 158 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 9: It looks like they're about twelve steps from Jody's building 159 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 9: to her car. That she was most likely ambushed attack 160 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 9: from behind. 161 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Okay, right, are you talking about her building where she 162 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: lived or her building where she where she lived. 163 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 9: We're talking from where she was running late. As we 164 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 9: heard Amy Koons, her producer, say, she was running late, 165 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 9: and so she's rushing to her car. She's carrying her 166 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 9: things she needs to. 167 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 10: Get ready her work. 168 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 9: Most likely her hair was wet being so late, and 169 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 9: she had a blow dryer with her. Somebody attacked her 170 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 9: from behind, and from all signs that we can tell, 171 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 9: there were signs of a struggle. She was dragged easterly. 172 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 9: According to the police. 173 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 11: You know what. 174 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: I got to break everything down that you're saying. I 175 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: got to go through it one fact at a time 176 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: and digest it and trying to make sense of it. 177 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: Guys were talking about a beautiful TV anchor that goes missing. 178 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: Jody Hu's in truth. Take a listen to our friend 179 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: Jim Axelrod. 180 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 12: The anchor of KIMT six am newscast. She usually rived 181 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 12: at work by three point thirty in the morning. 182 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 9: If she's not there between three thirty and TRIGGI were. 183 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: Calls a hey, are you awake. 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 12: Producer Amy Koons noticed nothing unusual, and she called and 185 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 12: whoped Jody up about ten after four that morning. 186 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: She was asking about the show. 187 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: She was concerned about the show and she said, I'll 188 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: be right there. 189 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: But at five point thirty. 190 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 12: Still know Jody, and this being a time before cell phones, 191 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 12: Amy tried her at home again and got her answering machine. 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 12: At six am. Amy had a step up and deliver 193 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 12: the news in Jody's place. 194 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: She loves her show. She got it her show. You know, 195 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: she wouldn't miss it for anything. 196 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 12: The police were called shortly after seven. When they arrived 197 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 12: at Jody's apartment, she wasn't home. But they found her shoes, 198 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 12: hair dryer and keys scattered on the ground near her 199 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 12: beloved red Mazda Miata. 200 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: You are hearing our friend Jim Axelrod at fine Jody 201 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: CBS forty eight hours the search on for Jodie Houston Street. 202 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: Let me go back to Caroline Love, investigative journalist. Caroline. 203 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: Let's start again at the beginning. Now you're telling me 204 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: she was leaving. You believe she was leaving her apartment 205 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: building that morning. She was running a little late for work. 206 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: Her hair was still wet because she had a hair 207 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: dryer with you with her. I assume that was standing 208 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: in the parking lot. You're telling me she was only 209 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: twelve feet out from her apartment or twelve feet from 210 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: her vehicle. And how would you know she was dragged behind? 211 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 9: That information came years ago from police, a police investigator. 212 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 9: She was dragged easterly. They saw marks in the silt, 213 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 9: if you will, and they believed that that's what happened, 214 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 9: That she was strigged easterly most toward Kentucky Avenue, which 215 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 9: is the main road going by the Key Apartments where 216 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 9: Jody lived with me. 217 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Former Commander twenty seven years Woodbury Police Department, Jay Alberiro, Jay, 218 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: tell me what you know of the morning Jody goes missing. 219 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 10: An examination of the photos that the media had, the 220 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 10: information that the Mason City Police had put out there 221 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 10: in the past. So based on all that, my interpretation 222 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 10: and from the facts is that Jody was at her 223 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 10: car and it appears that she was attempting to put 224 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 10: the key in the door lock to open the door 225 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 10: to her car when she was grabbed, more likely from behind, 226 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 10: because there's indications or the key that she had was bent, 227 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 10: which tells me that she had to keep in the 228 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 10: door lock when she was grabbed, So the force of 229 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 10: somebody grabbing her pushed her towards. 230 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 11: The front of the car possibly and bent that key, 231 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 11: and also the driver's side mirror on the door was 232 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 11: also bent forward, and again that indicates there's a struggle 233 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 11: taking place and the perpetrator has grabbed her and has 234 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 11: taken her towards the front of the car, away from 235 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 11: her apartment building. You know, and the examination we've been 236 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 11: down there, we've driven through the parking lot and looked 237 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 11: at the scene, because the scene will tell you volumes 238 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 11: of what happened, and it's a very tight parking lot 239 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 11: where that's. 240 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Really interesting to Wndy Patrick, prosecutor, author of red Flags 241 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: at wendypatricktphd dot com. Wendy, I never was so arrogant 242 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: as to try a case in frontly jury without having 243 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: gone to the scene. In fact, very typically obsessively gone 244 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: to the scene many, many times, often on my off time, 245 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: looking at it, trying to make sense, reenacting in my 246 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: mind what happened, who could see what or not see? 247 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: And in court, Wendy, it made all the difference because 248 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I've had many defense witnesses take the stand under oath 249 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: and state what they saw or didn't see, and into 250 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: my knowledge of the scene makes it very easy to 251 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: say something like, well, wait a minute, isn't there a 252 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: big tree and a hedge around the building, So you're 253 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: saying you could see through the hedge what happened at 254 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: the front door? Is that what you're telling me? You 255 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: have to know this scene and we're just hearing that 256 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: from Jay Alberia. 257 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, No, that's huge, And I usually go as soon 258 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 13: as possible when after the prime was committed, because especially 259 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 13: in a case like this where you have an incident 260 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 13: in the morning, you want to know when exactly the 261 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 13: sun came up, when people would be out walking your dogs, 262 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 13: when you'd see the joggers, when you would be able 263 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 13: to have seen the evidence left behind. You know, we 264 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 13: all know the first few hours after a kidnapping or 265 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 13: an abduction are the most critical, the most crucial, because 266 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 13: that's when the bad guy or whoever abducted the victim 267 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 13: is able to make the escape. So yes, and you're 268 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 13: also right, it gives you enhanced credibility in front of 269 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 13: not just the jury but also the judge to where 270 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 13: you are the one in the courtroom that has done 271 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 13: your homework. You've been there and you're in the best 272 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 13: position to be asking these questions. 273 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: It also helps you catch liars. But in this case, 274 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: we're hearing Jay Alberiro and Caroline Low describe what happened, 275 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: and the scenario is really important. Now, what have I learned? 276 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: I've learned that she was most likely attacked from behind. 277 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Somebody she didn't know, somebody that 278 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: felt they had to sneak up on her, in the 279 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: sense that maybe it was someone she did know, but 280 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: they had bad dealings so they had to sneak up 281 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: on her. It tells me that she fought tooth and nail, 282 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: that she had almost made it to her car, because 283 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: we're here Alberio describing how the key to the car 284 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: was bent, So Jesse she had gotten it in and 285 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: it was pulled away with such force it bent the key. 286 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Now we are hypothesizing what happened, but there's a lot 287 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: of evidence to prove that. Take a listen to reporterly 288 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: with ABC six KAA l what happened to Jody. 289 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: Outside of Jody's apartment, investigators found evidence of a struggle, 290 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: her personal items scattered in the parking lot, jewelry, shoes 291 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: and a bag near her red convertible, and perhaps one 292 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: of the most important pieces of evidence, a broken key. 293 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: As Jody's mourning producer morning assistant producer, I was the 294 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: last one to speak with her before she disappeared. 295 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Ammy Coons was working that morning Jody disappeared. She tells 296 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: police Jody was often late for work and that morning 297 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: she called Jody and says Jody answered and told her 298 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: she was on her way in. We still have our 299 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: jobs to do and I just got to get the 300 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: show yere Coons went on to anchor that morning in 301 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: Jody's place, It wasn't until hours later that a phone 302 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: call was made by the station to police that Jody 303 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 4: never arrived to work. 304 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, man, that is critical to Joanne Nathy. This 305 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: is Jody's sister. They didn't call for how many hours? 306 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: Those are critical hours in finding Jody. 307 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 5: Yes, that's true. I'm sure they just well, maybe she 308 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: overslept and she would be in That's what I've understood it. 309 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: But it was critical time period. It's too bad that 310 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 5: they didn't call. 311 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 6: But you know, it happened. 312 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Those cards were dealt and we're working with what we've got. 313 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 5: Certainly, Amy Kons never saw that Jody was being oblessd 314 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 5: accepted of course, just thought she had overslipped you know, crime. 315 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. What happened to TV anchor Jody 316 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: Houston truth. No arrests have been made and only a 317 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: handful of PAIS persons of interest have been named. 318 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 14: Why. 319 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: Earlier this month, a local PI Steve Ridge, claims there's 320 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: a dramatic breakthrough. He says he Id's the person responsible 321 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: for Jody's abduction by getting a second hand confession from 322 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: one of the alleged suspects former partners, who an unnamed 323 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: woman claims she was dating a man just months after 324 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: Houston Troup's disappearance, who told her he quote did it now. 325 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: According to this PI private investigator Ridge, the woman provides 326 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: evidence to support her claims. These of the facts as 327 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: we know them, Caroline Loath, isn't it correct that you know, 328 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: I heard another coworker say that Jeddie was never late 329 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: to work, So I've got a conflicting report on that. 330 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 5: Well. 331 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: Is that significant? Yes? Because if she was never late 332 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: to work as she was late this morning, that is 333 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: what we call quote routine evidence, evidence of habit or routine. 334 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: It's very hard to break, you know, when you're in 335 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: the TV business. You can't be one minute late or 336 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: there'll be an empty chair sitting there. You need. If 337 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: you're fifteen minutes early, you're late. So I'm curious about that, 338 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: and I'm also curious the coworker said Caroline that they 339 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: called her and she said, I'm on the way. Is 340 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: that correct? 341 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 9: We have no information otherwise, and that's what police are reported, 342 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 9: So we are guess guessing that they checked the records 343 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 9: to verify that. But to back to Amy, Amy said 344 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 9: that she was basically crashing to get the show. 345 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 5: On. 346 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 9: She was initially just kind of angry at that she'd overslept, 347 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 9: and she told maybe just the other day one of 348 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 9: her biggest fearies was she would lose her job if 349 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 9: she didn't get that show produced and on the air. Yeah, 350 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 9: she never imagined. 351 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's right about that, because people would tune in 352 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: and there'd be nothing there. So yeah, she would probably 353 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: have lost her job. Another question to Caroline Lowe. Very 354 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: often I would take clothes, shoes, makeup, whatever jewelry that 355 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: I was going to wear it that night with me 356 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: in my hands, in a bag and a backpack folded 357 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: up with me. So I'm assuming that everything that was 358 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: found in the parking lot. When we hear hair dry 359 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: or shoes and all that, that doesn't mean they came 360 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: off her feet. That means to me, that's what she 361 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: was going to wear onto the air. Guys, we're talking 362 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: about Jody, who's in truth just twenty seven years old. 363 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: That goes missing seemingly into thin air. So, Caroline low 364 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about all the items that 365 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: were scattered in the parking lot. 366 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 9: What we know is there are a pair of red 367 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 9: high heels, which would seem to suggest that Jody was 368 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 9: likely wearing something with red or all red that day. 369 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 9: We don't know exactly. As far as we know, what 370 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 9: she was wearing has never been found. There was hairspray, 371 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 9: there was a blow dryer, There are earrings, so the 372 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 9: basics of what you would wear to go on the air. 373 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 9: What's missing is a bag that she carried it in. 374 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 9: We've never heard anything about whether that was located. Presumably 375 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 9: Jody did not run to her car carrying all these 376 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 9: things in her arms doesn't make sense. So where is 377 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 9: that bag? Where is the purse that she normally would 378 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 9: have had. 379 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 11: We don't know. 380 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: And we also know that she was in a hurry 381 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: because she was running late, so she may have grabbed 382 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: things and then they came out of her hands. But 383 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I find that also odd. Why would she have be 384 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: carrying ear rings and other things in her hands and 385 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: trying to open up the car door. Guys, take a 386 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: listen to our cut seven A This is Brian Mastery 387 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: Evening anchor kimt listen. 388 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 15: Jody wasn't there, and so in an associate producer Amy 389 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 15: Kons calls Jody at her apartment. Jody sounded as though 390 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 15: she had just woke up and told Amy, Okay, I'm 391 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 15: getting around, I'll be in. 392 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: So then the time passes. 393 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 15: It's now four point thirty, it's now five, Amy, I'm 394 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 15: assuming always thought, well, Jody probably just fell back asleep. 395 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 15: Jody not coming in right on time wasn't necessarily unusual 396 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 15: from talking to the people who worked in the morning. 397 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 15: She wasn't always right on time. Show starts at six 398 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 15: o'clock without Jody, and so it was just a few 399 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 15: minutes after seven o'clock, right after she had gotten off 400 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 15: the air, Amy Coons calls Mason City Police for a 401 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 15: welfare check. 402 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 9: Manka, can I clarify something there? Yeah, Amy didn't make 403 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 9: the Amy did not make the phone call. Amy was 404 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 9: still sitting on this set at the seven o'clock when 405 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 9: the show ended. A co worker came in and she 406 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 9: asked the coworker to call police because she still had 407 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 9: to do. 408 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 13: A morning update. 409 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 9: So a co worker called the police at seven point thirteen. 410 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 9: First officers arrived on the scene at seven sixteen. 411 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: Interesting. That makes me feel a little bit better about 412 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: the timeline, because the whole day hasn't passed. Take a 413 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: listen to more of our friends at KIMT Listen Mason City. 414 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 15: Police found Jody's car in the parking lot in the 415 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 15: apartment complex, was maybe twenty feet twenty five feet from 416 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 15: the front door. 417 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 13: They did find her car in the parking lot, and 418 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 13: or she had been found a bench. 419 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 15: If you see that scattered, a key bent in her 420 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 15: fairly new car. There's a palm print on the car. 421 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 15: There's a struggle. She's been abducted. She's probably still alive. 422 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 15: There's a three hour window in between the phone call 423 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 15: and the welfare check, and that's a lot of time 424 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 15: for somebody to do something. 425 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: And get away. That is conventional wisdom. If someone is 426 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: killed in an induction, very often the first three hours 427 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: or the critical that's the critical window in which you 428 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: have a chance to save the person. Straight out to 429 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: doctor Jury Cross in Psychologists Faculty, Saint Leo University. You know, 430 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: another wrinkle in this case is that Jodi Huson Troup 431 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: was in everybody's living rooms and bedrooms and dens and 432 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: kitchens all across the viewing area. People thought that they 433 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: knew her. Not only that, there are a lot of 434 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: people out there that, for instance, I know this sounds crazy, 435 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: doctor Jury, that think you're sending them nonverbal messages, or 436 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: that you are speaking to them in code in some way. 437 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Of course, these people have mental issues, but they believe, 438 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: for instance, somebody young and beautiful like Jody Hughsons Trupe 439 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: is actually in love with them. It happens quite often, doctor. 440 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 16: Yes, it does with you know, celebrities or anybody that's 441 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 16: in the public light of you know, I guess all 442 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 16: the reporters that can kind of. 443 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 6: Relate to that. But the one thing is that you know, 444 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 6: from the psychological perspective of who did this, I mean, 445 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: it seemed to be pretty well planned out, and most 446 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 6: people that you know either have those kind of delusions, 447 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 6: I mean, they can still plan it out well, but 448 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 6: committing it to this degree of almost perfection. You know, 449 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: it was that time of day, early in the morning. 450 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 6: They had to wait. She was late. I mean, there's 451 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 6: a lot of things that you know, what we don't 452 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 6: have answers for. 453 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming to you, Caroline Low that there were 454 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: no security cameras in the parking lot, no. 455 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 9: Security cameras, and as far as we know, no eyewitnesses. 456 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Oh man, of course, to you Jay Alberio, it was 457 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: so early in the morning that she was leaving correct. 458 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: What time was it? 459 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 10: We made from the information it was about four thirty 460 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 10: in the morning. 461 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a lot of people out and about 462 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: at four thirty in the morning. Take a listen to 463 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: our forensic KIMT. 464 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 15: The search for Jody was immedia. The response was overwhelming. 465 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 15: I mean, she's in your living room every morning. In 466 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 15: Mason City and the surrounding communities, people feel as though 467 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 15: they know you men. So everybody wanted to help. You 468 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 15: had dogs, you had psychics. You had so many people 469 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 15: looking just to see if they could find clues. 470 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: To Joey and Nathan. This is Jody's sister. Do you 471 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: remember the use of psychics trying to find Jody. 472 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 6: Oh? 473 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had telephone calls and we were on a 474 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: show with psychics too at the beginning. Could I clarify 475 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 5: something that always bugs me that I hear them say, 476 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 5: like I heard this morning again that she was late 477 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 5: many times for work. And I never had that impression 478 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 5: of a few times she was late for work. But 479 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 5: Jody was very conscientious about her job. I mean, she 480 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: wanted perfection. I would not say she was late many times. 481 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 5: A few times she was a little late. Probably she 482 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: did jam pack. Her day's way too much. She worked, 483 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: stayed up late writing thank you notes, and you know, 484 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: she just used every hour I don't know, you know, And. 485 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: I was trying to clear that earlier, Joe n Natha. 486 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Through my research and investigation of the case, I found 487 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: other co workers that said she was never late or 488 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: really late. 489 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: She was so conscientious. But no, she was late a 490 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: few times. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm glad. 491 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: You said that, because I don't like the impression at leaves, 492 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: and more important, it factors into what happened that morning, 493 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: because she told the co worker I'm up, I'm on 494 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: my way here. 495 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: I count and I'm sure she was very nervous at 496 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 5: that point because she was so conscientious. 497 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure take a listen as Brian Master kimt Free. 498 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 15: Neighbors apparently heard screams that morning, and none of them 499 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 15: are able to really give an indicator about what those 500 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 15: screams were about. 501 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace now this PI Ridge has 502 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: made more than one sensational claim about the case in 503 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: the past. He doesn't name either person, either the alleged 504 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: suspect or the woman that rats him out, but he 505 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: shared his findings with the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation 506 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: the DCI. The Mason City Police Chief Mike McKelvey warned, 507 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: quote misinformation spread by social media slews and private eyes. 508 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: That information is having a quote detrimental effect on the investigation. 509 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: That suggests to me that he doesn't believe what the 510 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: PI is saying. Well, these are the facts that we 511 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: know to be true. To Wendy Patcheck, California prosecutor, author 512 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: of Red Flags, and hosters today with doctor Wendy k 513 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: c BQ in San Diego. Wendy, you know, a timeline 514 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: can start with something seemingly innocuous. And I will refer 515 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: to a really good example where in the Nicole Brown 516 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: Ron Golman double murder, the neighbors were first alerted by 517 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the dog. I believe the dog. Same was Akida's, as 518 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: they say, mournful or plaintive. Well, that really started the timeline. Yeah, 519 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: same in the middle of the night, and here the 520 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: neighbors hear these screams. Wendy, that's right. 521 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 13: And you know a lot of people would have called 522 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 13: the police right away upon hearing those screams, and a 523 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 13: timeline would also include people that were up at six am. 524 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 13: This was a morning anchor. She was in the morning 525 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 13: rooms of the breakfast tables across this small town, where 526 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 13: more people were likely to know her, to recognize her, 527 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 13: to know her name. It also, when you talk about 528 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 13: a timeline, you would want to know if she had 529 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 13: a stalker. And I've prosecuted several men who have stalked 530 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 13: news anchors specifically, but they were news anchors that were 531 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 13: on when they were awake. That timeline would also sweep 532 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 13: in everyone that would necessarily have seen her, have seen something, 533 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 13: who would have been up, who know who she is, 534 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 13: because they would have been awakened in a position to 535 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 13: be not only sharp many people are sharper in the morning, 536 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 13: but also in a position to notice something out of 537 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 13: the ordinary, like those screams that, as you point out, 538 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 13: really starts that timeline. Yeah. 539 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a scream at four thirty five 540 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, and there's a big difference of 541 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: hearing the neighbor calling the dog and a woman screaming, 542 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm very surprised no one called police, But you know what, again, 543 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: that's what we're working with. They did not take a 544 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: listen now to Ross Curious at KSTPTV. 545 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 8: Jody's closest friends in Mason City are for the first 546 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 8: time talking about their suspicions because. 547 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: It could possibly be someone that we know. 548 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: All with all the times I've talked to detectives, they 549 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: feel that someone's stoptor watched her, know what her schedule 550 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: was and was definitely going to plan on I'm doing 551 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: something that morning. 552 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 8: Right up to her disappearance, this group of people socialized 553 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 8: with Jody. As they realized Jody's abductor might not be 554 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 8: a stranger, they grew uncomfortable with one of their friends. 555 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 16: You see signals you may not have seen that make 556 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 16: me think that there's there is always a possibility that 557 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 16: could be somebody that we know. 558 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Now take a listen to Brian Mastri and Beth Bednor, 559 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: former anchor from KIMT and KAA L speaking to our 560 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: friends at ID. 561 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 15: Investigators start to zero in on someone who was with 562 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 15: Jody the night before. They knew that she had been 563 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 15: with a friend twenty years her senior, John van Seiss. 564 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 13: John van Seiss is considerably older than her, recently divorced 565 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 13: and looked to Mason City. 566 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: You've spent a lot of time together two weeks prior 567 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: to her disappearance. John had a birthday. 568 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 10: Party for who is celebrated twenty out of Fursday. 569 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 15: It seems so he was the last one to see 570 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 15: Jody alive too. 571 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: Caroline Love investigative journalists and you can find her at 572 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: find Jody dot com, Find Jody podcast and Caroline low TV. Caroline, 573 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: who is this guy? And so he's the last one 574 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: to see her alive the night before. 575 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 9: That's what he says. His name is John van Seiss. 576 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 9: He was twenty two years older than Jody, and just 577 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 9: two days earlier that weekend, he and several of Jody's 578 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 9: friends had gotten together in northern Iowa to go on 579 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 9: a water skiing trip. Actually writes about him in her journal. 580 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 9: The last thing she writes about two days before she disappeared, 581 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 9: talks about what a great time she had with John 582 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 9: van Seiss her other friends Annie Cruz and Tammy Baker. 583 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 9: So he's an older friend who has spent a lot 584 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 9: of time with her in the last couple months before 585 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 9: she disappeared. 586 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: And to you, Jay Alberia, former commander of Woodbury Police Department. 587 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: Jay did he he worked with her in what capacity? 588 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 10: No, John Vancis did not worry with her with Jody. 589 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 10: There are acquaintances. As far as we know, John had 590 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 10: lived in the apartment complex at one time. That's possibly 591 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 10: where he met Jody that became friends. Had a mutual 592 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 10: interest in water skiing and John had a boat, so 593 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 10: John was taking her waterskiing, and we believed that he 594 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 10: was also helping her learn how to water ski. 595 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: To Joey and Nathy, what was her relationship with John Vansoiz. 596 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 5: Well, actually I didn't know about the guy till this 597 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: all happened. She had mentioned to my mom. My mom 598 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 5: cautioned her that she was not really dating this guy, 599 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: but he was a friend, you know, and stuff. And 600 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 5: my mom said, well, you better be careful because you 601 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 5: know he might be getting romantically interested in you all. 602 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 5: We're just good friends. Jody would say, you know, and 603 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 5: so but I after hearing about after it all happened, 604 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 5: we know that he was quite obsessed with Jody. 605 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 12: Why say that, Oh just. 606 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 5: He wanted always to be a round her and he 607 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 5: wanted to you know. Said he even named his boat 608 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 5: after her, which was odd. And the friends knew that too. 609 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 5: They cautioned Jody. They said, Jody, are you sure that 610 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 5: John isn't more interested in you than you think, and 611 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 5: it was just very obvious that he that he has 612 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 5: been was very interested in her. 613 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a matter of fact, you're absolutely correct. Joeyne Nathy, 614 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: this is Jody's sister in joining us. Take a listen 615 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: to Mary McGuire k I m t force. 616 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 3: To play the role of both journalist and friend. Robin 617 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: wolf From reported on the disappearance. Even interviewing the man 618 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: who Jody was seen with last, what was his demeanor like? 619 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 17: Joyful, almost strangely happy, and telling me how he named 620 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 17: his boat after and how he just loved her. 621 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: She has no doubt in her mind that man, an 622 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 3: older gentleman who is friends with Jody, is the one 623 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: responsible for her disappearance. 624 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 17: I cautioned Jody about their friendship in television. 625 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 4: We have a gut incidint about things. My gut and 626 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: my instinct tells me that he's responsible. 627 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,959 Speaker 3: But Wilfrom isn't the only one who shares those same 628 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: suspicions about him. Last March find Jody dot Com, a 629 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 3: website dedicated to the case, reported Mason City police served 630 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: him with a search warrant seeking GPS data on two 631 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 3: of his cars. 632 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: Straight out to Caroline Low. Caroline, what can you tell 633 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: me about the search warrant served on this guy, this 634 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: much older gentleman twenty two years her senior, that apparently 635 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: was besotted with her. 636 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 9: The search warrants occurred in twenty seventeen, and well, what 637 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 9: the police were seeking was two vehicles associated with John 638 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 9: van Seiss, vehicles that he did not have back in 639 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 9: nineteen ninety five. They weren't manufactured till a few years later. 640 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 9: We don't know specifically what they were seeking. Their probably 641 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 9: will cause statement, the affidavit is not public. What we 642 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 9: do know, as I said, is they were after she disappeared. 643 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 9: The possible theory is that they were seeking to see 644 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 9: if maybe he was going to some kind of a 645 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 9: crime scene when he was back in Iowa. He was 646 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 9: subpoena before a federal grand jury in that same month, 647 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 9: where he was ordered to provide palm prints, fingerprints, and 648 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 9: DNA sample. But we don't know, and the chief later 649 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 9: said it did not produce any evidence. 650 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm guessing Wendy Patrick that they would want to compare. 651 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: He has not been named as a suspect. Number one. 652 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: Let's just state that any potential palm prints or fingerprints. 653 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: Is something found on that car? 654 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 13: Oh absolutely, And you know the Joanne and your other guests. 655 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 13: What we've done is we bumped the timeline back to 656 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 13: even the night before. So you talk about that palm print, 657 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 13: where it came from, who might have made it. Now 658 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 13: we're sweeping in people that may have seen her within 659 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 13: even the last twelve hours. And yes, you know forensics. 660 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 13: I know this happens a long time ago, but we 661 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 13: still today had some. But we had even back then 662 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 13: Google fashion forensics, especially in a case like this where 663 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 13: that's all that they had left at the scene. There 664 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 13: was no footage or cell phone tinging like we do nowadays. 665 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 13: A pall print like that would have been an enormous 666 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 13: piece of evidence. 667 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 18: It's a new information has come out from that twenty 668 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 18: seventeen search warrant which shows the GPS tracking data of 669 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 18: a car owned by that person of interest. He died 670 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 18: December of last year. The data tracks a vehicle during 671 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 18: the four day span as it traveled from Baxter, Iowa, 672 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 18: through Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and New Mexico before stopping 673 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 18: in Phoenix. The rest of the information has not been released. 674 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: It could have been anyone everybody in the area knows 675 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: Jody who's insrut. They see her every single morning. Take 676 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: a listen to Jennifer Austin KA R E eleven. 677 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 9: Don't think because the world is concerned with other news, 678 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 9: that she's forgotten. 679 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 17: Caroline Lowe is an investigative journalist and part of the 680 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 17: Fine Jody Team, a group of investigator who continued to 681 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 17: look into the unsolved case. 682 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 14: What happened to Jody. 683 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 17: They launched a podcast this month on what would have 684 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 17: been Jody's fifty second birthday, hoping to keep eyes on 685 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 17: her story and find answers about what happened the early 686 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 17: morning of June twenty seventh, nineteen ninety five, when Jody 687 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 17: left her apartment late for her job anchering the morning news. 688 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 4: America's most highly publicized missing children. 689 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 17: She never made it. 690 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: She was very easy to follow. 691 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: You knew her schedule anchoring the six AM and new news, 692 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: her home number. 693 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: For address, for even lists in the local directory. She 694 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 4: would have been very easy to find. 695 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: What could have been done differently? And can there be 696 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: a save? Take a listen to our cut sixteen A. 697 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: This is Laurlee ABC six KAA L listen I can't 698 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: remember Jody. 699 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 3: Ever being too or late for work. She's a professional 700 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 3: journalism journalist. 701 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 4: Then general manager John Shine seen during a press conference 702 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 4: later that day describing a very different front. Jody a 703 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 4: devoted employee who took her job seriously. 704 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 14: I've made it clear this case is not going to 705 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 14: go away for us. 706 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,479 Speaker 4: For many decades, this case has puzzled the Mason City 707 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 4: Police Department. What do you think you, as a chief 708 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 4: can do different than the chiefs prior to you that 709 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 4: have had this case under their tail and nothing has 710 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: come about. 711 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 14: I'm not going to sit here in second guess decisions 712 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 14: made officers in the field twenty five years ago about 713 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 14: what they did. I will tell you that I don't 714 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 14: believe that any of them probably thought that we would 715 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 14: still be working this case today. 716 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 4: Chief Jeff Brankley says bringing a fresh pair of eyes 717 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: to the case could help. 718 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 14: Cold cases I think are of interest to a lot 719 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 14: of people. It's obviously a case that affected Mason City, 720 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 14: and so if we could put some closure to that, 721 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 14: I'm interested in doing that. 722 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: To Caroline Low, Investigative journalists find Jody dot com Caroline, 723 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: where does it stand now? There was one reporting of 724 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: a body found at a Mason City river. We don't 725 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: believe it remains and we don't believe that was Jody. 726 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: A PI popped up and said he had information that 727 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: he is still not shared with anyone in the family. 728 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: Have there been any developments, Caroline that we could really 729 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: sink our teeth into. 730 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 9: Nancy, I really wish I could say there were, and 731 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 9: we get tips all the time at find Jody dot com, 732 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 9: but we have no information that authorities, anybody is any 733 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 9: closer to finding Jody, Hues and Troup today than they 734 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 9: were years ago. 735 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: To Joanne Nathan, this is Jody's sister, Joanne, what is 736 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: your most vivid memory of your sister Jody. 737 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 5: Well, she was always so very caring about us. She 738 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 5: just wanted us to be happy. That was a big interest. 739 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 5: You know. If she was working at a resoarch and 740 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 5: her time off, she'd invite us up to use the facilities. 741 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 5: And oh, she was just so bubbly. She has a personality. 742 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 5: Plus you know, she probably didn't have the best speaking 743 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 5: ability necessarily, but all her personality on the air just 744 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 5: came through. Doug Murbrick told me the ratings were very 745 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 5: high and one thing though, she revealed too much about 746 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 5: her personal life on the air also, but that's you know, Jody. 747 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 5: She was so personable with everyone and people felt they 748 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 5: really really knew her. And all you need is somebody 749 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 5: who was not playing with a full deck to become 750 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 5: obsessed and sitting and listening to her daily routine. She 751 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 5: would often talk where she went jogging and what activity 752 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 5: she was going to do that day, and she probably went. 753 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 5: She probably did too much of that on the air 754 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 5: and it was too personable, but they liked it. The 755 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 5: viewers loved it. 756 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: The police chief goes on to stay the majority of 757 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: leads brought forth by pis and amateurs had been quite duds. Seemingly. 758 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: Her family rejects the news as well. They put out 759 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: a statement claiming that misinformation routinely shared about JODI's case 760 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: subjects them to a quote different kind of pain. It 761 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: makes them relive it all over again, maybe even get 762 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: their hopes up for nothing that has got to hurt immensely. 763 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story, signing 764 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: off Goodbye friend,