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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait up here and Kiki, you have

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Speaker 1: a demographic of fans that I never knew about. Really

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Speaker 1: it is fifty plus year old white man. What today?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Come give me here. Every day Fred's show is on

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Everyone. Monday May twelfth, It's the Fred Show. Hi, Kailin,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Hi Jason Brown, Hi Paulina, Hi Kiki, Good

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Speaker 1: morning Bella. I mean it's back tomorrow. Each five five, five, nine, one,

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Speaker 1: one o three five. You can call him Texas, same

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Speaker 1: number anytime. Kiky's Corny his next. But I'm bump girl.

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Speaker 1: It's a thin line between love and hate headlines and

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Speaker 1: the biggest stories of the day. Stealthie's in cancer. Woh,

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Speaker 1: I know it's serious. Fun fact is coming up? What's

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Speaker 1: in the entertainer report this hour?

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Speaker 3: Kay, I will tell you who used Mother's Day to

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Speaker 3: send an interesting message to their ax.

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Speaker 1: On the edge of my seat. Lately, each day I

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Speaker 1: get on TikTok to watch the Karen Reid trial. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she did it. If she

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Speaker 1: the prosecution for the second time are the biggest bunch

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Speaker 1: of morons that I I mean, the ineptitude is unbelievable

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Speaker 1: times too, with a whole different set of people, and

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Speaker 1: the and the I'm sorry, but you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: big police backer and first responder guy. But these guys

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Speaker 1: are idiots. These guys are they got shoes they don't

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Speaker 1: They're flirting with her, They're saying names, whether they got

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Speaker 1: people getting you know, they're they're they're calling your names,

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Speaker 1: they got people getting fired. They the experts don't know

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Speaker 3: When I tell you that Karen's lawyer Alan Jackson not

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Speaker 1: Thought it was except I think Alan Jackson passed away

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Speaker 3: Yes, rip is everything to me, Like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: His biggest fan. Phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: I want merch like that tiny man. Where does he

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Speaker 3: have time to get those guns? Like he's hitting the

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Speaker 4: Do it all.

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Speaker 3: He is eating those I know that they're not called monologues,

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Speaker 3: but he's eating those monologues up in court.

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Speaker 1: The cross examination a performance.

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Speaker 3: You have to have a close in the last trial

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Speaker 1: He eats it up well, and he's just he's crushing

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Speaker 1: these people in cross examination. He did defend Harvey Weinstein too,

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Speaker 1: which I don't love he did. He's a defense attorney. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, necessarily pick your clients. Okay, No, I'm not

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Speaker 4: And and but I mean again, I just met him,

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Speaker 1: Just thought he was somebody who pointed that out to me. No, no,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just putting that out there so that people

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Speaker 1: and they were successful. So I you know, uh, say

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Speaker 3: Because I do believe she's innocent, So that's why I

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Speaker 1: Alan, Yeah, again, I don't I don't know. I remember.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's entitled to a except for maybe him. Everyone's entitled

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Speaker 1: to a defensive Yeah, it's possible that she hit him

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Speaker 1: And I was drunk. Alan Jackson's tol u, why do

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Speaker 4: Alan, Here, I'm glad you're alive.

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Speaker 1: Why Why am I thinking? Why? Who was I thinking?

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Toby Keith did past I like a

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Speaker 1: Because I'm glad that he's alive to sing this.

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Speaker 2: He sounds very alive here.

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Speaker 4: By the way, your real is Jason.

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Speaker 1: You knew that he was alive and didn't say anything. Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't chase it. We don't need to roll with

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Speaker 1: to let us know we're so much alive. That we

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Speaker 1: Are you serious? Are you serious? Are we watching the

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Speaker 1: It is a disaster. It is an absolute disaster. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the prosecutor's fall as much

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Speaker 1: This is a it is a disaster, and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: But the defense attorney is Alan Jackson, who's related to

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Speaker 1: not related to the singer. Both very much alive of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as I was saying, it's never been more alive, Jason

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Speaker 6: Goodness, they're alive. Yeah, I love that. And she's a

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Speaker 6: bank what are you watching? No, it's it's it's a mess.

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Speaker 6: And the judge is so boud, Barb is so biased.

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Speaker 4: Barb is a new judge too, No sage.

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Speaker 1: I believe her name is Barb, and we can can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I've never been so into something as I am into

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And the second thing that I've been following each day

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Speaker 1: all day and people have been dming me asking us

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Speaker 1: to talk about this is a dude named Phoenix. Now

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Speaker 1: Phoenix is sailing from Oregon to Hawaii. You know boat

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm done with this, like I've had enough

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Speaker 1: and I'm just going to I'm going to just go

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Speaker 1: you video to Crack and Sales. I'm not sponsored. They

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying thank you, is what it is.

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Speaker 1: And before I had.

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Speaker 7: Any big following or anything like that, these guys at

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Speaker 7: He kind of heard my story and he knew about

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Speaker 1: So he's just going on and on about this sale.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, this is he's I guess he has like

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Speaker 4: I get it. The judge's name is Beverly, not bar.

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Speaker 1: It's bad barb okay, good, thank you a couple. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. She's terrible. I don't care, not what. I

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Speaker 1: Jackson musicians, all of them. Yeah, yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bev Barb, It's interesting that you.

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Speaker 4: A mistrial and they couldn't come to an agreement.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. And I realized that the burden is

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Speaker 1: less on manslaughter. I do not again a bunch of

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Speaker 1: things that if you come to us for facts, please

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Speaker 1: don't then you should listen to someone else. But because

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Speaker 1: I believe the burden is less for manslaughter than it

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Yeah, I don't know how you can. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because one of them is like, you were acting

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Speaker 3: carelessly and someone died, but it wasn't intentional.

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Speaker 4: And one of them is that was my intention to

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't think it was either. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, you should follow this guy because very inspired

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Speaker 1: story Phoenix Sailing with Phoenix, and he's got a gazillion

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Speaker 1: said enough, enough is enough. I'm catching in my non

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Speaker 1: if it didn't matter to you in that moment and

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Speaker 1: What would you do, Kiki? Go to Cabo, live in

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Speaker 9: text his wife and said, listen, I know you lost

434
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 9: your mom five years ago.

435
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 1: So maybe you don't understand how much.

436
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, so maybe you don't understand how much these traditions matter,

437
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 9: but they matter.

438
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 1: Well that's a very messed up way of saying that.

439
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,119
Speaker 1: But okay, now, yeah, your mom's dead. I don't get it.

440
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: Well I had a mom and I do get it.

441
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, now he's not speaking to me and

442
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,879
Speaker 9: I'm questioning everything. Maybe I was being a bit too

443
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 9: old fashioned. Maybe I'm holding on too tightly, but it

444
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 9: really hurts me that he forgot about his own mother

445
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 9: on Mother's Day?

446
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? All right? Judge kick, I have some thoughts,

447
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: but it's it's your thing. What say you? You're the judge, Yeah,

448
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 1: your honor. Yeah.

449
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 9: She was definitely wrong, so wrong for sending that text message,

450
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 9: like you, any credibility that you had before the text

451
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 9: is out the window because the wife did not call

452
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 9: you and say, you know, he can't come see you.

453
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 9: She didn't even tell your son he couldn't come see you.

454
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 9: She just said she would like a quiet day at home.

455
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 9: Now he decided not to attend the mother's day lunch

456
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 9: or whatever, so you could have taken that up with him,

457
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 9: But to text her that was so out of a line. Ooh,

458
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 9: I think that was out of line. And I think

459
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 9: you crossed the line by doing that. And I was

460
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 9: with you before that text. Honestly, I was like, Hey,

461
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 9: you know you are his mom, and it is okay

462
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 9: to want to see your kids. And no, no, it is.

463
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 9: It's okay to want to see your want to see

464
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,479
Speaker 9: your kids. You're right to feel like, oh man, you

465
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 9: can come by, or you know, at least bring the grandkids.

466
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 1: But after you sent that text, girl, I have no sympathy.

467
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: I think if you live in the same town as

468
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: your mom and you're married and your wife in this

469
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: example is a mom, I think you could celebrate both, right,

470
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think breakfast could be about

471
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: your wife and kids and she's a mom and you're

472
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: you know you have obviously you have to celebrate her,

473
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 1: she's the mother of your children. But I don't know

474
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: why that would prevent you then from later in the

475
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: day stopping might have seen your ma. I wish I

476
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 1: were in the same city as my mom yesterday, so

477
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: I could have driven over there and said hi. And

478
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: if I were married with kids, I would have figured

479
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 1: out a way because I want I know it's not

480
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: their mom, but I would probably want my kids to

481
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: honor their grandmother too, So there's a way to do both.

482
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be one or the other. Now,

483
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: the text message was out of bound, That's what I'm saying. Like,

484
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: once she sent that text, girl, you are wrong. You're wrong.

485
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 9: But Paulina, I hear you over at your wife. I'm

486
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 9: a wife, so.

487
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: Let me hear what.

488
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 8: All right, So I think it's time for mom to

489
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 8: put her blub away and it's time to stop breastfeeding

490
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 8: her grown song. That's my theory. And I know FROMI

491
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 8: to come for me, and that's okay. I only say

492
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 8: that because at the end of the day, you guys

493
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 8: know how I feel.

494
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 10: Like.

495
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 8: This man is now married and he's got a family

496
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 8: of his own. Okay, so he can't so he could

497
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 8: see his mother. But if your wife says, hey, I

498
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 8: just want to do breakfast in bed and chill and

499
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 8: do our own thing, I think it's okay to start

500
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 8: your own traditions.

501
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: And I stand by that. I do.

502
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 8: Now, if you want to go and see your mother

503
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 8: later in the evening or whatever, that's your own thing.

504
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 8: But we don't have to do like a who ha parade,

505
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 8: where like now we're going to go to brunch and

506
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 8: dinner and like.

507
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: Why is mom too high? My mom's who? I mean,

508
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: why is my mom's who hauba? Like put him away?

509
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 8: Mom.

510
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm always having to say that, but.

511
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 8: She's acting like it might be because like, oh, yeah,

512
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 8: I think you can do both.

513
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 4: Yeah saying that.

514
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 8: But if your wife says, hey, I don't want to

515
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 8: do all these things of going out and brunching and

516
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 8: lunching and dinner, that's okay because it is it is

517
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 8: her day too. She's a mother, right, that's the mother

518
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 8: of your children. I think that's okay to have your

519
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 8: own editions if she doesn't want to. And I don't

520
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 8: think grandma can get mad at that. I did a

521
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 8: brunch at my house yesterday and I invited my mother

522
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 8: and my mother in law. But that's the kind of

523
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 8: wife mother I am where I want to celebrate with

524
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 8: them in my home. That's what I wanted to do it.

525
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 8: I didn't want to go out. I didn't want to

526
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 8: do anything after at two o'clock, after a lot of champagne,

527
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 8: everybody was out the door, and that's what we did.

528
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: And that was okay, But that was because that's what

529
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: I wanted. My husband respected that. I think you got

530
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: a way to incorporate I think you got to find

531
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: a way to incorporate both, because I mean, it's hard

532
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: to get into the game of who's more important. Yes,

533
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: that's your wife, but that's a different name, that the

534
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: relationship is different. You don't get to ignore. I wouldn't

535
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: get to ignore my wife, who's the mother of my

536
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: children on Mother's Day by any means. But I also

537
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: don't get to ignore my mom either. Now, again, the

538
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: text message was out of bounce, but she was mad,

539
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'm not justifying she needs to apologize for that.

540
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: She was mad because she felt like she was being

541
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: prevented access to her son. So maybe it's not a

542
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: breakfast or a lunch the way that she's used to.

543
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: But I mean again, and if we're in the same city,

544
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: I can drive across town and I can give my

545
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: mom flowers or a Mother's Day card. I don't need

546
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: to I don't need to be attached to you simply

547
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: because you're my wife.

548
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 8: That's not fair either, And I do agree with that

549
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 8: because I think, you know, like you said, you don't

550
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 8: have that where you can just you know, go to

551
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 8: your mom's house and drive across the expressway or whatever.

552
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 8: My mom's five minutes away. So I do come from

553
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 8: a place of privilege, right. You know, my mom is

554
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 8: very close to me physically and emotionally, and I understand that.

555
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 8: But I do think, like, if your wife is asking

556
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 8: for something a little more chill, a little more like, hey,

557
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 8: let's do our own things.

558
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: There are new traditions. I don't think it's it's bad

559
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: to respect that. Am I wrong?

560
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 8: If that's what your wife wants to do, it's tough.

561
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that would be. I would feel crazy

562
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: like asking that of my son. Now, he is a

563
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: grown man. You pointed this out and it can make

564
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: his own decisions. So if Europists take it out on him,

565
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 3: I just as like the spouse would never ask you

566
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: to not see your mom on Mother's Day.

567
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for that situation.

568
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: But I think you could do breakfast in bed and

569
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 3: then if she's cool with being a lo own, she

570
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: doesn't want to go for a little while, you can

571
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 3: go over to your mom's. But I don't think I'm

572
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: looking at her crazy for asking that.

573
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm not cool.

574
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm fine with new traditions, and we've talked about this

575
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: over the years on the show, but I'm not fine

576
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: with new traditions that alienate family. I don't like that.

577
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to do your own thing,

578
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, on a holiday, that's fine, But I don't

579
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: know why that has to exclude everybody else, because I

580
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: don't think you would like it very much if you

581
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: were excluded because you were married, Like what if what

582
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. What if the rest of the family

583
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: is like, oh, well, we didn't necessarily want, you know,

584
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: kids around or whatever. So you guys do your own

585
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: it seems to be, well, we have our own traditions

586
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: and we're doing our own thing, and that's separate from

587
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: this family. But then when they want to be incorporated

588
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: in the mass group, then it's it's like, I don't think.

589
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a an a la carte kind

590
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: of thing.

591
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 4: Maybe you can choose your saying, like when I think.

592
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if that requires a little bit of effort then,

593
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: which means we have to split the day up, or

594
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: which means that you know, and I get that could

595
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: be hard when it comes to like Christmas, and maybe

596
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: one person's famili's here, one person's family's there, Well, then

597
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: we probably have to rotate or something like that. I

598
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Family is so important to me,

599
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: and I don't like the idea, well that all of

600
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, your traditions become more important than mine. They

601
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: might be, we might have to adjust them, but I

602
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: mean to say, like, no, you have to stay here

603
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: all day, you can't go see your mom. Yeah, yes,

604
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: that's all.

605
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how much time we have left with mom.

606
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: But also once she sent that text, I was out

607
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: because you can't talk about somebody's dead mom like that,

608
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: Like that's crazy.

609
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: I think when families grow, it certainly becomes more complicated

610
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: and more work, But I think it's worth it. I

611
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: think you have to do the work, yes, and you

612
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: have to make compromises too. Hey, Clarissa, Yeah, I think

613
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Paulina has hi.

614
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 5: I think Paulina has it all right, Like she said

615
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 5: all the right words exactly what I was thinking. Like

616
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 5: it's just inappropriate. The text is way out of line.

617
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 5: But also it's really important, you know, as a mother

618
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 5: to be recognized, whether the mom, mother in law, or

619
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 5: even herself. You know, she wanted the opportunity to rest.

620
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: You know, we don't know if she was to stay

621
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 5: home mom, and that's hard being a staying a home

622
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 5: mom is harder, or she does both working again to

623
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 5: say home mom in the evenings or whatever the case is.

624
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 5: You know, to ask for a little bit of time

625
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 5: to chill out is really not that hard of a

626
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: concept to understand. And you know, if the mom wanted

627
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 5: an opportunity to see her son, you know, try to

628
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 5: the son it was up to the sun and say,

629
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 5: you know what, my wife wants to do this. But

630
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: if she's okay with it for dessert, I'll bring dessert

631
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: or I'll stop by it. You know, we can go

632
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: for a coffee ruck or whatever the case is, you know,

633
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 5: even if it is up to an hour.

634
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: But to bring up with the seas mother on my

635
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: way to handle that at all.

636
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 5: So I think you guys are all saying the right thing.

637
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 5: You know, all together, boundaries are super important, and unfortunately

638
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 5: the mother crossed this one and it's going to be

639
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: hard for her to kind of bring herself back into

640
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 5: a circle of trusty essentially with the mom who is

641
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: just trying to rest out.

642
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be a hard one to walk back.

643
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: I agree, Clarissa. Thanks, you have a good day.

644
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: Thank you to you guys.

645
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: Ah, Debbie, Hi Debbie, good morning, Ybbie.

646
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 10: I'm not saying on you. Yeah, oh my god, tell

647
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 10: me why, I'm you tell me why? Absolutely ridiculous. The

648
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 10: whole thing started with a twenty year tradition. You have

649
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 10: twenty years where you have your children. I have two,

650
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Speaker 10: and I didn't even see both of my kids yesterday.

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Speaker 8: And it is hurtful.

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Speaker 10: Oh see both of your children.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 10: But having said that, if I had a tradition which

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Speaker 10: we do on certain you know, holidays, it's my children.

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Speaker 10: Then said well now my daughter, you know she has

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Speaker 10: a child. If she said, well, now we have another tradition.

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Speaker 10: I would have been like, but for the last twenty years,

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Speaker 10: you've given me this and now you're going to take

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Speaker 10: it away from me on Mother's Day. No, you have

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Speaker 10: to rearrange your schedule. You have to say, okay, my

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Speaker 10: wife wants you know, breakfast and bad and quiet. They great,

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Speaker 10: I've got this off plans. Oh, you'll have breakfast in bed.

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Speaker 10: I will get the kids ready. We're going to go

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Speaker 10: to my mom's and do what I have done for

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Speaker 10: the last twenty years, and then we're going to come

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Speaker 10: back and I'm going to bring you something back for dinner.

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Speaker 10: D You know, it's really simple. Everybody could have been happy,

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Speaker 10: but instead it turned into.

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Speaker 1: This horrible thing.

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Speaker 10: And shame on the mom too for sending that terrible

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Speaker 10: text message episode.

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Speaker 1: Shame on everybody.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, everybody, you have a new baby and you're gonna

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Speaker 10: want to do special things for your family, and you're

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Speaker 10: gonna still to, like you said, traditions.

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Speaker 8: Of your very own.

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Speaker 10: But that doesn't mean you have to interfere with other people.

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Speaker 10: And I'm not.

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Speaker 8: I am a Yeah, i am an amazing daughter in

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Speaker 8: law and I will say that on this radio a

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Speaker 8: lot and proud, and I'm an amazing mother. Now, when

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Speaker 8: my daughter is older and when she becomes a mother,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna let her pick what she wants to do

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Speaker 8: with her family, because she's going to experience her mother's

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Speaker 8: day when her time comes. I'm going to be old

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Speaker 8: and wrinkly and sitting somewhere at home at a nursing home,

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Speaker 8: and if they want to come see me, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Be so happy. And if they don't, I can't be

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Speaker 1: upset with that. I think you could. I think you

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Speaker 1: have a right to be upset if they don't make

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Speaker 1: any effort to see you on Mother's Day. I think

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Speaker 1: that is a fair The other day, it may not

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Speaker 1: be in the form that you want. It may not,

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Speaker 1: you know, to Debbie's point, or I guess, sort of

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Speaker 1: counter to your point, the tradition that you have known

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Speaker 1: before another family was created might have to adjust. But

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Speaker 1: for her, for her to be like, for her to

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Speaker 1: be like, no, you're staying here all day because I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do anything that shouldn't preclude him from

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Speaker 1: driving across town to see his mom and give her something. Now,

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Speaker 1: Mom may not get her way, wife not may not

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Speaker 1: get her way. It's going to have to be compromised.

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Speaker 1: But you might have to put the effort in because

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Speaker 1: that's what family is about. In my opinion.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear.

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Speaker 8: Those you like, I'm okay with like gues going to

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Speaker 8: see your mom at night or whatever, going to see

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Speaker 8: your mom later in the day.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 8: That's nothing wrong with that. But I do think your

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Speaker 8: wife in a sense comes first. She has to like

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Speaker 8: that is not your new family.

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Speaker 10: Of course your wife comes first at some single day.

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Speaker 1: But can your.

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Speaker 10: Mother have Mother's Day blunch like she has for the

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Speaker 10: life you give.

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Speaker 1: Him that I think? Do you think there's compromise here?

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Speaker 1: I definitely think compromise. Yeah, Debbie, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for colling have a good day. But that really is

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Speaker 1: that's the bigger question.

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Speaker 9: Like when it comes to Mother's Day, is it your

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Speaker 9: wife or your mother? Because it's like Mother's Day is

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Speaker 9: you should honor the woman who gave birth to you,

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Speaker 9: But then you also have this woman who has giving

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Speaker 9: you children.

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Speaker 1: And it's like on that day who really comes first?

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Speaker 1: For a man? I feel sorry for a man who have.

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Speaker 9: To decide this, But like, seriously, who is the who

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Speaker 9: do you celebrate the most?

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Speaker 1: I think mom has to acquiesce to the wife and

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Speaker 1: the you know, the mother of the kids. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think that means that mom gets ignored, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: doesn't get a visit or do you and you know what,

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Speaker 1: that might suck, that might be a little extra work,

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Speaker 1: But I don't I get new traditions. But I also

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Speaker 1: think it's like, but you want to be part of

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Speaker 1: this family. Oftentimes you you know mother, mother maybe does

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Speaker 1: a lot of babysitting, mother does, Maybe he's contributing financially.

741
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Speaker 1: Mother is you know, it's a great grandmother. Yeah, So

742
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Speaker 1: we need to instill that and the kids too. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes people just they just draw the line

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Speaker 1: and pick and choose which parts of family they want

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Speaker 1: and which parts of family they don't want, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's very damaging. I think. I think it's just gonna

747
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Speaker 1: be more work, but I think you have to do both.

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Speaker 8: It's more work, it's good. It's gonna be rewarding though.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be rewarding because, like you said, then your

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Speaker 8: children can see. You know, you're gonna celebrate your mother,

751
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Speaker 8: and you can celebrate grandma if Grandma still with us. Like,

752
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 8: those are okay and everything is okay with that. Those

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Speaker 8: are great traditions to have. My whole point was that

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Speaker 8: the mom just has to come first, and if she

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Speaker 8: doesn't want to come to brunch, lunch, dinner, whatever, she

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Speaker 8: can stay back.

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Speaker 1: And that should be okay for everybody. Everybody should respect that,

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Speaker 1: all right. I wish we could to all these phone calls.

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Speaker 1: We can't. The fun fact is next day.

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Speaker 7: Here more Freadshew Next the Fread Show is on Friend's

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Speaker 7: Fun Fact.

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Speaker 1: Fread Fun learn so much? Guys, did you know that

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Speaker 1: in a while. Another day Saving the bees. Bees can

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Speaker 1: get drunk unfermented tree sap. Same same same on the

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Speaker 1: way in here. I tap a tree and uh in

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Speaker 1: Grant Park and I That's why this show sometimes is

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Speaker 1: a little cool cool. It doesn't go well for those

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Speaker 1: who partake, though. Bees that get drunk unfermented tree sap

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Speaker 1: are often attacked by the sober bees and denied access

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Speaker 1: to the hive. Like you drunk, get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Can't be drunken here. Same thing happens. You know, I

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Speaker 1: show up with a little bee sap. Everyone's like I

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Speaker 1: can see it. I can smell that bee sap on

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Speaker 1: your breath. Fread go home, like I want more be sap.

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