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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hemmer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever

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Speaker 1: you are listening, you are happy because the Braves gave

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Speaker 1: us a double dose of positive deja vu this Monday,

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Speaker 1: just like last Monday. First, to each and everyone, wherever

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Speaker 1: you are and wherever you're listening, thank you for joining us,

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Speaker 1: me and my podcast partner, Stephen Tober. But Stephen, it

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Speaker 1: really does feel like deja vu because just a week

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Speaker 1: ago we were cumbing off a pretty disappointing loss to

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Speaker 1: a team that we definitely should have beat. You know

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Speaker 1: it would last you know, two sundays ago. It was

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Speaker 1: against the Rockies. Yesterday it was against the Marlins. Pretty

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Speaker 1: disappoint I've been showing bad into the weekend, kind of

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Speaker 1: a sour end to an overall good week. But what

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Speaker 1: do we do? We bounce back and beat the New

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Speaker 1: against so far this season. Again, a lot of disappointing

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Speaker 1: from when you can prove that you're better against one

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Speaker 1: of your rivals. And that's exactly what the Braves doing

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Speaker 1: in a big moment, a big win and a close game,

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Speaker 1: not against the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Yoh, what's up, buddy? You know, baseball is a weird sport.

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Speaker 2: The Breads are the Braves have losing records against the Pirates,

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Speaker 2: the Marlins and the Nationals, and they have and they're

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Speaker 2: I don't know why the Breads always seem to beat

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Speaker 2: the Mets. And listen, the Mets are one of the Braves'

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Speaker 2: biggest rivals. If you're a certain age then you probably

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Speaker 2: hate the Mets as much as any team in baseball

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Speaker 2: if you're if you're an old enough Braves fan, and

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Speaker 2: that's probably your number one rival. And so it's always

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Speaker 2: fun to beat the Mets. It's never there's I don't

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Speaker 2: care what the standings say, I don't care where everybody is.

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Speaker 2: It's always fun to beat the Mets. And it's really

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Speaker 2: fun to beat the Mets in Queens. And let's so

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the game. It was a

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Speaker 2: roller coaster game. The Braves had some you know, runners

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Speaker 2: bite them because the pitching was so unbelievably good. We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about it all. But yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: a big win coming off a really disappointing series in Miami,

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Speaker 2: going to New York. You know, Schwellenbach on the Mound,

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Speaker 2: you really need to win those starts, and they win

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Speaker 2: big first win of the series, and now you're set

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Speaker 1: Yes, agreed. It was another one of those nights where

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Speaker 1: any RII sp situation the Braves found themselves and resulted

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Speaker 1: in Braves Country saying every four letter word known demand.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is that the Braves were able to

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Speaker 1: work their way through that. That's the point. That's the

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Speaker 1: difference that stands out. And I know some people have

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Speaker 1: against the Nationals, the Marlins, and the Pirates, the Braves

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Speaker 1: that aren't out of the NLS, the Braves are ten

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Speaker 1: and six this year. You know, that includes against the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: against the Mets, against the Brewers. You know, the Braves

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Speaker 1: But regardless of that, let's get to the big reason

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Speaker 1: despite the struggles of their offense. Spencer Swellenbach, who has

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Speaker 1: But he was able to get the job done. Steven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I said it in the open without Chris Sale.

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Speaker 2: Not only does Spencer Strider and Spencer swallowback, not only

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 2: Tonight's game was more than just, you know, a close

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Speaker 2: make the argument between Striyder and Swallenbach, but obviously Strider's

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Speaker 2: the Braves are in the standings. They really cannot afford

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Speaker 2: But that's a big win. That's seven innings. You know,

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Speaker 2: But he pitches really well against the Mets, and the

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Speaker 2: But you know, that was kind of the only damage really.

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Speaker 2: talk about Yil Lee here in more in a minute,

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Speaker 2: but the Braves need to win these games. With Schwellenbach

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Speaker 1: We also want to talk about the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: of course, today was the second round of voting, the

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Speaker 1: Ronald Acuna Junior, who once again did his job tonight.

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Speaker 1: I believe is ninth tone run in less than one

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Speaker 1: We're legitimately talking about Ronald Acuna Junior now in the

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Speaker 1: midst I don't think it's the best of his I'll

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Speaker 1: seen for Ronald A. Cooney Junior. I know some in

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Speaker 1: Braves Country are starting to be like, could this guy

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's a non that's a zero percent chance.

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Speaker 1: I don't expect for it to happen. But one thing

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Speaker 1: over the past month has been He's now a month

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Speaker 1: legitimately say he's been the best hitter in all of baseball.

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Speaker 1: And he showed it once again tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, incredible. I mean he's got like a two to

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Speaker 2: he might win MVP. I'll say that, I don't know

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Speaker 2: coming back from a major surgery. But listen, nobody's got

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Speaker 2: more talent than Ronald's. If you told me he did it,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't stun me. I mean, he's batt in almost

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Speaker 2: listen anytime the Braids play the Mets. I usually listen

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Speaker 2: Ronald Cuneter Jr. They spend the entire broadcast just dogging

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Speaker 2: run trot. And that's what was happening tonight. Every time

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Speaker 2: to me. I can't imagine the brids are gonn let

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Speaker 2: But this dude is incredible and he hit another home

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Speaker 2: of a nine. Nine home runs and one hundred plate

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Speaker 2: appearances is bananas stuff, of course, And you know, got

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Speaker 2: the Breads off to a good start tonight. I think

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Speaker 2: that was actually not a great base running move. That's

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Speaker 2: the other thing, by the way, we have seen him

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Speaker 2: see if that continues, because that's obviously another layer of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day. And

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Speaker 1: then again this just goes as a reminder this success

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Speaker 1: Mets in no way, shape or form should be more

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Speaker 2: least you give yourself five cracks at it at the top.

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Speaker 2: And if you know, if like tonight, we're Akunya, Olsen,

431
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Speaker 2: Riley and Ozuna all get on base, you have one

432
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Speaker 2: more shot at it before you drop off off a

433
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Speaker 2: mountain cliff, which is kind of with this line of

434
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Speaker 2: how this lineup is constructed at the moment. So that's

435
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Speaker 2: my only thought. You got to get all the other

436
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Speaker 2: five hole and I think I would play Baldwin a

437
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Speaker 2: little bit more until Profar gets back and we see

438
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Speaker 2: what he looks like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing that I'll say is this, you know,

440
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Speaker 1: as we talk about the lineup, is that I think

441
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Speaker 1: that's kind of what the brains. This is just me speculating.

442
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Speaker 1: I guess you could say I don't typically like to

443
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Speaker 1: do that, but I do feel in this case it

444
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Speaker 1: makes sense. I truly feel that the Braves are just

445
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Speaker 1: trying to tread water this week in terms of trying

446
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Speaker 1: to get at least three or four wins. If they

447
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Speaker 1: can get at least three or four wins, this week

448
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Speaker 1: has definitely been a success. But what I think they're

449
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Speaker 1: really targeting is, if I'm correct, I believe that they

450
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Speaker 1: have a day off next Monday, which we would be

451
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Speaker 1: June thirtieth, and then they had play on July the first,

452
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Speaker 1: and Profar will be eligible to come out off from

453
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Speaker 1: suspension a week from when. The point that I'm getting

454
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Speaker 1: at is they're just trying to get to July second,

455
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Speaker 1: and when they get to July second, that two week

456
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Speaker 1: stretch from July first till the All Star break, the

457
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Speaker 1: Braves are going to be favored in most of those games.

458
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Speaker 1: It's a lighter part of the schedule. I really think

459
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Speaker 1: that the Braves are looking to put themselves in a

460
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Speaker 1: position to when Profar comes back. They feel over that

461
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Speaker 1: next ten or so day stretch they have a really

462
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Speaker 1: good shot at getting at five hundred, especially if they

463
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Speaker 1: get tread Water this week. I think that's their goal.

464
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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of should be their goal. But

465
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Speaker 1: once Profar comes back, I think the Braves are really

466
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Speaker 1: looking to kind of take off offensively, which is what

467
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Speaker 1: they hope will happen against a lot of part of

468
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Speaker 1: the schedule. Does that kind of make sense to you, Steven.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have to bank on that right now,

470
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Speaker 2: because unless we're going to talk about us, you know,

471
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Speaker 2: adding a starter here in a minute, Unless you add

472
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Speaker 2: a starter sometime soon, you know, your rotation is kind

473
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Speaker 2: of Strider and schwellenback and then kind of hold on.

474
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Speaker 2: Like I know, listen, I know Grenholmes has been solid,

475
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Speaker 2: I know Bryce Elder has been solid at times, but

476
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Speaker 2: on the whole, a lot of times you're going to

477
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Speaker 2: be at a disadvantage in those games, and so you

478
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Speaker 2: need your offense and We've said this for two years now.

479
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Speaker 2: The Braves need to score more runs with Profar. At

480
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Speaker 2: least you can say, all right, now we've got another

481
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Speaker 2: hitter to add to this group. We're taking either Verdugo

482
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Speaker 2: or Eli White out of the lineup. That's one less

483
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Speaker 2: black hole in the lineup. You know, if we put

484
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Speaker 2: Baldwin in there, we put Profar in there, it's starting

485
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Speaker 2: to resemble like a complete lineup again. So one hundred

486
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Speaker 2: and listen. The Braves have the Mets for the rest

487
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Speaker 2: of this weekend, and the Phillies this weekend, and then

488
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Speaker 2: you know next week when Profar comes back. I think

489
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Speaker 2: the I think it's the Angels, right, the Angels come

490
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Speaker 2: to Atlanta. What what is after? What's after the Angels?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Sean? Is it Saint Louis? Did they go to Saint

493
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Speaker 2: Louis's They go to Saint Louis pretty soon?

494
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Speaker 1: I know that, But I know it's Saint Louis. Let's see,

495
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Speaker 1: it's the Angels, it's Saint Louis. I want the athletics

496
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Speaker 1: are in there too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the athletics.

497
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Speaker 2: So you're right, it does lighten up and you'll have

498
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Speaker 2: Profar back and maybe they can make a move and

499
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Speaker 2: get a starter at some point. But yeah, you do

500
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Speaker 2: have to kind of tread water this week because the competition.

501
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Speaker 2: You know where your rotation's at. You just got to

502
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Speaker 2: do the best you can. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And a little bit more on the rotation. Look in

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Speaker 1: at some comments that Stephen made from Saturday when we

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506
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507
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Speaker 1: So, Stephen, the latest update today actually came from foul Territory,

529
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Speaker 1: it seems from friend of the podcast. We had the

530
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Speaker 1: pleasure of speaking with him a few months ago, Aj Perzinski.

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Speaker 1: He said that he had talked with Chris Sale, talked

532
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Speaker 1: with him about, you know, the injury that he occurred.

533
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Speaker 1: He said basically that so confirmed it was two ribs

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Speaker 1: that had small fractures in them. He would be okay.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the thing that kind of stands out for

536
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Speaker 1: eight hours later is there's not really been any more

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Speaker 1: updates or kind of a time table, you know, given

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Chris Sale. Now, I know that

539
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Speaker 1: you found some additional information after you and Scott talked

540
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Speaker 1: about it on Saturday, when it comes to Chris Sale

541
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Speaker 1: on this type of injury, but it's at least good

542
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Speaker 1: to see Aj Persinski say that Chris Sale feels so

543
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Speaker 1: be fine. It seems like that there's probably a likely

544
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Speaker 1: chance to not He'll be back at some point this season,

545
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Speaker 1: especially if the Braves are in the thick of things,

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Speaker 1: But again, a timetable is still to be determined. But

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Speaker 1: just just kind of your thoughts after hearing aj persions

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Speaker 1: can give a bit more details on the severity of

549
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Speaker 1: the injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was good to hear, obviously, but it

551
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Speaker 2: is kind of a funny thing to hear when somebody

552
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Speaker 2: says it's not a big deal, it's just two small

553
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Speaker 2: rib fractures. It's like, okay that I hear what you're saying,

554
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Speaker 2: but that still sounds kind of bad, especially for a

555
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Speaker 2: guy who's pitching. You know, I've never broken a rib before.

556
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Speaker 2: I do know people who have, and it effects every

557
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Speaker 2: thing you do because it's literally like your how you

558
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Speaker 2: walk and how you breathe, and like it's it's very

559
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Speaker 2: painful and I can't imagine like standing on a Major

560
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Speaker 2: league mound trying to pitch with a broken rib. We

561
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Speaker 2: did find that Chris Sale did have this injury. I

562
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Speaker 2: think Brad Scott talked about this, I can't remember on

563
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Speaker 2: their show, but Chris Sale did have a similar injury

564
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Speaker 2: with Boston. It was on the other side. It was

565
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Speaker 2: the right rib and not the left rib in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, and this is not great. He missed four months.

567
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Speaker 2: He was out from like March to July. Now again,

568
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Speaker 2: not every not every rib fracture is the same. There's

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Speaker 2: different severities. The one in twenty two was on his

570
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Speaker 2: right side. This is on his left side, So it

571
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's a one for one thing. I don't

572
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Speaker 2: want to I don't want people to hear four months

573
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Speaker 2: and think, all right, well the season's over, because that's

574
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Speaker 2: we haven't heard that. We don't know that. But it

575
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Speaker 2: was you know, I saw that clip come out from

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Speaker 2: AJ and then Bowman MLB doc beat writer for the

577
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Speaker 2: Braise Mark Bowman, friend of the show, tweeted out almost

578
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Speaker 2: immediately like, yeah, we haven't heard it update, but it

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Speaker 2: still sounds like August is gonna be the timetable, And

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were kind of shocked. I was

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Speaker 2: reading the reply, so a lot of people are like shocked.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's like, even if this goes well,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of the thing is, even if this goes well,

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Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be like six weeks. And that's just

585
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Speaker 2: the nature of a broken rib. Like it's very some

586
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Speaker 2: of it is pain tolerance, but I can't imagine you

587
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Speaker 2: can pitch all that well with a broken rib, at

588
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Speaker 2: least until it gets some level healed. So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: It's all speculation at this point, but I would probably

590
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Speaker 2: caution people from expecting him to be back before the

591
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Speaker 2: second half of the season. August. I think Bowman is right.

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Speaker 2: I think August sounds right to me. Probably middle August.

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Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, it's probably gonna be like a

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Speaker 2: you know, a two month, month and a half injury

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Speaker 2: if I'm if that's my get best guess at this point.

596
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a while. And you know, I

597
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Speaker 2: know a lot of people said by the time he

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Speaker 2: comes back to Brave Sea and could be over and

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Speaker 2: it could be h I mean, that's very true. So

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Speaker 2: we'll have to see. But I think they probably need

601
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Speaker 2: to go get a starter. I don't know what Scott

602
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Speaker 2: and I talked about this on the Emergency show. They

603
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Speaker 2: probably need to go get somebody to bridge the gap.

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Speaker 2: I know Didier Flintes is a high level guy. He's

605
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Speaker 2: got a lot of really interesting qualities his pitch mix,

606
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Speaker 2: but he's still only twenty years old, and I really

607
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Speaker 2: don't know how much you can expect to this kid.

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Speaker 2: I would love for them to go get just some

609
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Speaker 2: sort of veteran fifth charter, not anybody crazy expensive or anything,

610
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Speaker 2: just somebody that's on a bad team that maybe lets

611
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Speaker 2: you have them a little a few weeks early from

612
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Speaker 2: the trade deadline. We'll see what they do. I thought

613
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Speaker 2: they might do something between our emergency show a couple

614
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Speaker 2: of days ago and right now, and they have it.

615
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Speaker 2: So maybe they've tried and it's just not available yet,

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Speaker 2: and that's very possible. But I do think they probably

617
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Speaker 2: need to go at a, you know, a fifth charter

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Speaker 2: type to help out with at least some depth.

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Speaker 1: So, hey, you know what, when you talk about this subject,

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Speaker 1: you know, who could the Braves go get. I typically

621
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Speaker 1: try to stay away from this, but I'm just going

622
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Speaker 1: to throw out three names, and three names who I

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, check the box of either being

624
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Speaker 1: a veteran or someone that the Braves are familiar with,

625
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Speaker 1: and also check the box to where they would be rentals.

626
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Speaker 1: They're on one year contracts. Four teams that aren't doing

627
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Speaker 1: so well right now, and I know that several of

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Speaker 1: these teams, some of these teams are going to mention

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Speaker 1: you know, these teams maybe two or three games, you know,

630
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Speaker 1: have two or three wins less than the Braves. But

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that also they're more of a focus on

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Speaker 1: the future than right now. Three names that stand out.

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Speaker 1: One that you mentioned was Charlie Morton. Another one that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned at the beginning of the year, why haven't

635
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Speaker 1: we signed him if he's still out there? Is Ander

636
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Speaker 1: Heny of the Pirates. And then the third one who

637
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Speaker 1: would be to me the most intriguing would be Mike

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Speaker 1: Soroka of the Washington Nationals. Three names on one year

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Speaker 1: contracts who I think are doing pretty decent on those

640
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Speaker 1: one year contracts. Those are kind of three names who

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Alex called about. I'm also

642
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Speaker 1: not surprised those teams that currently have them want to

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Speaker 1: wait to drive up the price and till later on.

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Speaker 1: But just three names out there that could make sense.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing is there's a lot of teams

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Speaker 2: out there looking for starters. You know, the Mets just

647
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Speaker 2: lost half their rotation. The Yankees have been dealing with

648
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: with injury problems since Garrett Cole went down. The Dodgers

649
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: always have like twelve guys on the il, you know,

650
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Speaker 2: and so if you have, if you're one of these

651
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Speaker 2: bad teams that has a veteran starter that's got good,

652
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Speaker 2: decent numbers, at least you're not in really any hurry

653
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Speaker 2: because you want the bidding war to get up. And

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Speaker 2: so that's the thing about making trades right now is

655
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Speaker 2: in order to convince the team to pull the trigger now,

656
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Speaker 2: you have to overpay, because that's the only way you

657
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Speaker 2: get them to say yes. Otherwise they're just gonna say, yeah,

658
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Speaker 2: that sounds good, call me back in a month. You know,

659
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Speaker 2: that's kind of what you're gonna get. And you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're trying to do something immediately, it's not a

661
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Speaker 2: good Honestly, it's not a good spot to be in.

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Speaker 2: You don't ever want to be in a spot where

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Speaker 2: you have to make a deal right now because it's

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Speaker 2: a good way to get you know, it's just a

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Speaker 2: good way to to have zero leverage and to give

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Speaker 2: all the leverage to the other side. So it's gonna

667
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Speaker 2: have to be you know, those guys honestly might be

668
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Speaker 2: having two good of years to get a team to

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Speaker 2: say yes right now. Like I know Charlie Morton started

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Speaker 2: out bad, but if he look sin it's like the

671
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: middle or the end of April till now, he's been

672
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Speaker 2: fantastic and he's probably rebounded enough where the Orioles can

673
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Speaker 2: get something for him, and they're probably not in any

674
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Speaker 2: hurry to move him. You know, Soroka's been decent. I

675
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: know he's got a higher RA, but his perphiles look better.

676
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Speaker 2: Hayne has I think got an era in the threes.

677
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Speaker 2: So like you might have to go even worse than that,

678
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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, to get a team to

679
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Speaker 2: say yes immediately, it might have to be somebody who's

680
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: having a straight up bad year that you can project

681
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Speaker 2: maybe some improvement on. So we'll see. And maybe they don't, man,

682
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: maybe they can't. Maybe it's just too early. We know,

683
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Speaker 2: if they don't do anything. I know they do like Fintes.

684
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: I know that for a fact they do love Didier Fuintes,

685
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: and he does have real potential. I just wish he

686
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Speaker 2: wasn't twenty years old, because it's gonna I think it's

687
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: gonna be bumpy, quite honestly, that first start is a

688
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: perfect example. You're gonna have good innings and then you're

689
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna blow up innings. So we'll see, we'll see what

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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we focus on you know, before

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Speaker 1: we focus on what could happen. It's one game at

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Speaker 1: a time to consistently bring up those chances of something

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Speaker 1: actually happening, so the Braves can focus on a potential.

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Speaker 1: You know, each and every win against a quality team

696
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Speaker 1: like the Mets. I know it's a long road, but

697
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Speaker 1: that step, it's one step more in the right direction

698
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Speaker 1: when we get those wins, and tomorrow becomes that important

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Speaker 1: because now we sell out of the way. And Steven,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you elaborate on this because it's your point

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Speaker 1: now is sell out of the way in your words,

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Speaker 1: any start where you have Swelling the block and Strider

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Speaker 1: on the mound, with sell on the il, it becomes

704
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Speaker 1: that much more important to win because your favorite and

705
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Speaker 1: that's what the Braves are tomorrow night. And if you

706
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Speaker 1: can get the win tomorrow, you've got two and zero

707
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Speaker 1: on the Mets in this series, five and zero against

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Speaker 1: them with two remaining in this series, it's right there

709
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Speaker 1: on the doorstep. But the offense has got to be

710
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Speaker 1: able to cash in these opportunities. I think that they'll

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Speaker 1: have opportunities again tomorrow night. Frankie Montas on the man,

712
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Speaker 1: But just your thoughts. It's I'm not gonna call it

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Speaker 1: a must win, but you gotta get the win tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with odds in your favor.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm fine calling a must win because you

716
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Speaker 2: got Elder, you know, Holmes or Fuenttees Holmes, Elder coming after.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what you're gonna get. They have Frankie

718
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: Montas on the mound. Who is you know, he's been hurt.

719
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Speaker 2: He was rehabing in Triple A. He was so bad

720
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Speaker 2: in Triple A that the Mets literally didn't want to

721
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Speaker 2: call him up until they absolutely had to. And they've

722
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: just had so many pitching injuries that now they have to,

723
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Speaker 2: so you got to, you know, Strider versus him on

724
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Speaker 2: Montas tomorrow is advantage Braves. I mean the Braves are favored.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Mets are ten games ahead of the

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Speaker 2: Braves in the standings. The Mets are playing at home,

727
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Speaker 2: and the Braves are favored tomorrow. That's how big of

728
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: a mismatch this pitching matchup is. So you got to

729
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Speaker 2: win that. You know, tomorrow's a game you need to

730
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: win because you know it's a decent chant. You're not

731
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Speaker 2: gonna be favored in any of that eat in the

732
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Speaker 2: next two games. You know this. If you get out

733
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Speaker 2: of here with a series split, that's probably fine. With

734
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Speaker 2: how the pitching is lined up without Sale, I would

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00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: love to win three out of four, but I will

736
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Speaker 2: take a split, quite honestly, and to guarantee that just

737
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: whin tomorrow when with Strouder on the mound without Sale.

738
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Speaker 2: These Strider swollen Box starts are so important. Those guys

739
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: aren't gonna pitch like aces every time, but when they

740
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: do like swollen Buck did tonight, you need to win.

741
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Speaker 2: And so if Straider gives you a good start tomorrow,

742
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Speaker 2: you need to win.

743
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: Now.

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Listen, if Strider has a bad game, then it is

745
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: what it is. But if he goes out and get

746
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: and handles his business, then like you said, the offense

747
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: needs to show up three four, five, six runs, maybe

748
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: ten runs. You know, let's get wil let's get crazy

749
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: with it. Maybe maybe twelve maybe fifteen runs. You know,

750
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: have fun with it, but they need to win them.

751
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: Strider shows up, then the offense needs to show up,

752
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: the bullpen needs to show up, get a win, secure split,

753
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: and then maybe get you know, maybe get a kind

754
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: of a unexpected great performance out of the rookie the

755
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: next nine and go ahead and win the series.

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Speaker 1: You get that win tomorrow, you're five and zero against

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00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: the Mets on the season. Yeah, you've gotten two wins.

758
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: Did that major at least going to split or win

759
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: the two series you've had against the Mets on the season,

760
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: And in a week where you once again are going

761
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: to have Spencer Swellerbach and Spencer Strider pitching at the

762
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Speaker 1: end of the week against the Phillies, you're halfway to

763
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Speaker 1: having a winning record for the third straight week. That's

764
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: how you build on things. That's how you make the

765
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: most of the opportunity. But as much as we're talking

766
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: about the pitching being able to do their job, it

767
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: all circles back to the offense getting it done on

768
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Speaker 1: their end. Steven, anything else that you have to add,

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Speaker 1: But as we wrap up this edition of a Hammer

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Speaker 1: Territory podcast.

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Speaker 2: Know just to add this, after this Mets series, the

772
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: ready to go home for a nine game homestand oh yeah,

773
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Speaker 2: three against the Phillies, three against the the Angels and

774
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: then three against Baltimore. I think is the nine game

775
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: homestand so like those last six are against two bad teams,

776
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be at home. So take care tomorrow,

777
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: get you know, secure the split on the road, and

778
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: then you got a nine game homestand I know, the

779
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: first three against the Phillies, but you do have Sale

780
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, you do have Schwellenbock at Strider for

781
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: two of those, and then you got two bad teams,

782
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: so you could really mix them. Ay here, Profar is

783
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: gonna be back. I think by the second Angels game

784
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: of that home stand. I think it's July second. You know,

785
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: you could go on a run here. I would love

786
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 2: for the Braves to add another sharter at some point

787
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: to take some of the pressure off this twenty year

788
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: old kid, and maybe some pressure off Brice Elder. But

789
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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But secure the split tomorrow, maybe

790
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: get you know, go crazy with it, win three out

791
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: of four, and then come home for a nine game

792
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: homestand get Profar back. See what happens.

793
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but at least, hey, you know what, at least

794
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: we're giving ourselves a chance now I think this is

795
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Speaker 1: the first time we talk about how rare it's been

796
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: for the Braves to, you know, get a three game

797
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: winning streak. Steven, I think this is the first time

798
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: all season you and I have been on a winning

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Speaker 1: streak ourselves three straight games or a three straight podcasts

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Speaker 1: with both of us where we want a game now now,

801
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: for the life of them, Brad and Scott can't have

802
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: any luck on the sun.

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00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: Brad Scott, Yeah, they violated an Indian barrel ground or something,

804
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: and yeah they got they got to have better lock.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they need to burn sage on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, I'll dance responsored.

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Speaker 2: A live chicken, maybe a live chicken, maybe a bucket

808
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Speaker 2: of chicken.

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Speaker 1: Whatever. It needs to be live, and it needs to

810
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Speaker 1: be sincere. You know, Ted lasso the middle of the field,

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Speaker 1: you know, get the demons out. I don't know what

812
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: it is, but to the point, exactly, exactly whatever you

813
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Speaker 1: have to do. The point is, though, is that it

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Speaker 1: feels good when we're doing a podcast after some wins.

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Speaker 1: You know, it feels good for the Braves to get

816
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: some wins as well. The good thing is they got

817
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: the talent to continue it and hopefully that will occur.

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Speaker 1: You could find Stephen at be Underscore Outliers on Twitter

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Speaker 1: covering the Braize. My name is Sean Coleman. You can

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Speaker 1: proud member of the family of podcasts at Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: And once again want to say this, cannot thank you enough.

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Speaker 1: We're coming up on half a season of coverage when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the Braves. I know it's not been

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Speaker 1: that fun of a season, but right now it's a

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Speaker 1: bit more fun than it has been. Can't thank you

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Speaker 1: enough for the continued support and we absolutely enjoyed bringing

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