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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. What's going on? I'm Ben? Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, Ven is so peppy today? Yeah? I am

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Speaker 1: because I get to be with you. We're in studio

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Speaker 1: together finally. Um, so much to talk about, so much

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Speaker 1: to talk about. So let's start with this recap on

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Speaker 1: all that's happened in Bachelor in Paradise up until the day,

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Speaker 1: which is that, well, when you last heard from us,

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Speaker 1: we didn't know whether or not they were going to

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Speaker 1: resume filming, and to the joys of all of Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Nation out there, they have. They're all back, right, They're

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Speaker 1: all back now. I do believe that they all flew

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Speaker 1: back on Friday and Saturday, and I think today might

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Speaker 1: be the first day that they're continuing to film. That's awesome,

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Speaker 1: But honestly, there hasn't been a lot of news about

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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise since the events of Karentin Tomorrow kind

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Speaker 1: of Um, I guess we're released to the public. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm lost. I don't even know who's back down there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who left, who stayed. It seems like

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Speaker 1: the only people who are not back down there are

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Speaker 1: current and to Mario and Melanie from the News. Melanie

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Speaker 1: Bromny from the News got the first exclusive interview with

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Speaker 1: the Mario and it's um, it's any news, But we

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Speaker 1: want to talk to Melanie a little bit about all

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Speaker 1: the details and how she got that interview, which has

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Speaker 1: been so sought after. Melanie's out there right now, Melanie,

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Speaker 1: are you there, I'm here. How are you guys? Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you? We're great. Good. As far as getting

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Speaker 1: the interview, it was just that, you know, he really

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Speaker 1: wanted to tell his story, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: we did this interview actually the day after Warner Brothers

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Speaker 1: had cleared him in their own internal investigation, and he's

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Speaker 1: very keen to talk and to kind of be able

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Speaker 1: to talk about the experience from his side. Him and

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Speaker 1: I actually had a mutual friend, which is how he

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Speaker 1: came to me. That's why it all happened. Interesting, that

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Speaker 1: was my first question to you. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: everybody out there wanted this interview, or at least desired

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Speaker 1: to hear kind of from because up unto this point,

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Speaker 1: Karin has not done an interview with anybody. Correct, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's right, but you know she's also her lawyer Marty

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Speaker 1: Singer wants the investigation to continue. So as far as

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Speaker 1: she's concerned, this isn't something that's over. Okay, Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: tomorrow though, So I mean, I guess to say Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: does believe this is over that for him and absolutely

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Speaker 1: is over. Now, I'll say there is still obviously some

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Speaker 1: things that are hanging here. As party hasn't spoken to

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Speaker 1: Karin since they left to Mexico, he really wants to

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Speaker 1: speak to her. But as far as he's aware, because

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Speaker 1: he's been cleared by Warner Brothers because there's tape, he

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Speaker 1: actually feels that in his eyes, this is something that

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Speaker 1: is over. So does that mean that Karin hasn't been

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Speaker 1: clear about Warner Brothers. Oh no, you know, Warner Brothers

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Speaker 1: have said that the investigation is over internally, that's why

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Speaker 1: they stopped filming, but now they've resumed filming. They said

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Speaker 1: that Bacher paralysis coming back. It's Current's lawyer that believes

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Speaker 1: that there should be further investigation that takes place. But

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Speaker 1: as far as the Mario is confirmed, you know, he

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Speaker 1: wants people to see that tape. Now, Warner Brothers have

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Speaker 1: he says that he feels that if people saw the

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Speaker 1: tape that it would absolutely clear him, that people would

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Speaker 1: understand how it happened, how they were in the swimming,

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Speaker 1: pulled together all the events leading up to it, because

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Speaker 1: every single thing was captured on videos. You know, I

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Speaker 1: know this is airing in two parts. I guess actually

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Speaker 1: I just want to know right now to kind of

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Speaker 1: set the tone for the rest of this conversation with you,

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Speaker 1: is how is the Marow doing from your perspective? He's okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, the day I spoke to him, so the

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Speaker 1: day after he had being cleared, he was careful. He

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Speaker 1: He says it was the worst eleven days of his life.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't like that at all. He was very much

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Speaker 1: And he also said, you know, he is used to

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Speaker 1: in the situation that people were shaming her. We're calling

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Speaker 1: he understood what she had gone through as well. It's

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, as had been talking about this situation

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Speaker 1: of situations like this where there are multiple people involved

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Speaker 1: it's nice to know that you've talked to him in

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Speaker 1: and that's his perspective. I mean, what an incredible perspective

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Speaker 1: from somebody to say, hey, I know this is hard

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Speaker 1: all this. Now, I didn't know if she wants to

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Speaker 1: be friends with him. This was this was his perspective

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Speaker 1: and what he was saying. But I also said to him,

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Speaker 1: every single person involved in this. There wasn't anybody that

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Speaker 1: he says was unfair that the woman that came back

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Speaker 1: He then went on Bachroom Paradise to redeem himself. He

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Speaker 1: And it sounds like Tomorrow's story is one that's coming

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Speaker 1: so people can catch up as well. Perfacing, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us, Melanie, you gave us so much in Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Fine, And then just have to

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Speaker 1: a lot of the footage that led up to the

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Speaker 1: shutdown on this coming season a Bachelor in Paradise. That's

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Speaker 1: surprising to me. I think so too. I was very concerned.

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened in and I guess maybe the audience

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Speaker 1: the first day footage and the second day and third

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Speaker 1: showing current to Mario at all, just completely cut them

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Speaker 1: out of it. Well, um, I will be watching Bachelor

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Speaker 1: in Paradise. I'm assuming a lot of Bachelor Nation will

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Speaker 1: guessing that a lot of people that don't normally watch

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Speaker 1: so you're you're looking forward to watching it? Then? Oh? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I agree. UM. So we have a couple of topics

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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about and around Bachelor Paradise

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Speaker 1: if I'm competing for a woman's heart, I'm not talking

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00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: about pooping on anything and including cowboy boots. Did you

428
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: hear that in um the season after your chat season?

429
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: But there was, um, well, actually let's introduced chat right now.

430
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: Villain who's just absolutely not a villain at all if

431
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 1: you get to know him. Um, do you like that?

432
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to be called a villain or do

433
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: you want me to say that you're not a villain

434
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: at all. You know. The one thing I'll say is that, like,

435
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: as far as like the people that approached me, it's

436
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: been super great for me. You know, I've met some

437
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: of the other guys off and I've seen some of

438
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: the girls that come up with them at their appearances

439
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: and stuff, and uh, it's like they were, like, Dude,

440
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: we played the good guy on the show. This is

441
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: the girls we're dealing with now. Because it's like I

442
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: only get like those club girls, you know what I mean.

443
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: I love that point. So you get a different breed

444
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: of girl depending on your I only get the girls

445
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: that understand that the cocky guy, you know. So it's

446
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: it's fantastic for me. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, So you're

447
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: saying it's fantastic for you. In my mind, I thought, wait,

448
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: you're only getting the club girl and they're getting like

449
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: nice girls. Well, they're getting the club girls are nice.

450
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: You got to take them out of the club. But

451
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: I this, yeah, and I'm sure they have great morals

452
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: outside of the club. Ben can't judge because there at

453
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: the club. Oh my gosh, this is making me think

454
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: of so many questions to ask you. But first I

455
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: have to go back to the Dodo bandit, which Wells

456
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: told me about. Um, what was that you were in

457
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: the house. Wasn't there somebody eating poop in the toilet?

458
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: I never heard. I think the first time I heard

459
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: about it was I would listen to one of Will's

460
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: podcast and I heard him say something that no clue

461
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about right now if there was

462
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: this guy in their house that would poop and not flush,

463
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: and not only that, but he wouldn't put toilet paper

464
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: in the toilet. You're talking to bachelor, Yeah, the bachelor

465
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: in the Bachelor mansion. Okay me, if you're asking me,

466
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't you. We can tell Ashley's been thinking about

467
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: this for a while. Like the first question to somebody

468
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: was wiping their But yeah, like how gross is that it?

469
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: But what we're talking about good girls and versus bad girls?

470
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: You have a girlfriend, Chad, I don't know right now,

471
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of a yeah, we don't have to talk

472
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: about Yeah we do, we sure, But I've I've sat

473
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: in this podcast room very very quickly after some confusing

474
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: stuff in my relationships, and I know how bad it

475
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: sucks to be questioned on it. I have to talk

476
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: about this stuff all the time. No, for sure. I

477
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: mean it's it's cool, Like, um, we were dating, you know.

478
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: I met this girl online everything, like she actually she's

479
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: slid into my business emails and was like yeah. It

480
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: was like how can I get some abs? And I

481
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: was like, what up, girl? You don't want ads? Like

482
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Yeah? So we started talking and um,

483
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, we ended up meeting up finally like six

484
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: months later out Newport Beach and start dating and everything.

485
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: But then like she still don't understand the TV stuff.

486
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: So like I was doing an interview the other night

487
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: on Entertainment Tonight where you know, they're like, hey, are

488
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: you in a relationship with someone right now? And like

489
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: the show is airing, so I'm like, maybe maybe I'm not.

490
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: And I roll over the next morning to a text

491
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, so you're not in a relationship, well

492
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: you're single now, And I'm like she thinks I was

493
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: gonna like go back and fight for and be like nah, baby,

494
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: like we are dating, like, but I was just like

495
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: I can't deal with this, Like if you're gonna like

496
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: scrutiny scrutinize every single interview I do for like things

497
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: that I have to do for like, you know, I

498
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: can't like go ruin a show, you know what I mean. No, No,

499
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: you're contractually obligated to say what you do, right, Yeah

500
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, she didn't get that, and so

501
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: I've kind of like taking a step back now to

502
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: kind of be like, you know, your relationship doesn't pay

503
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: my bills. So yeah, No, that's tough. That that is tough.

504
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: I get that. I I mean I think it's actually

505
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: I've talked about here before, is you come off of

506
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: this this well you're in this world that is different now.

507
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: It's not just the Bachelor for you. Now you're doing

508
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff outside of the Bachelor, um and everything,

509
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: and you do kind of have to say things at times,

510
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: uh that maybe aren't more politically correct. Yeah. Yeah, she's

511
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: got to be vague. Vague the good word to say.

512
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: You have to be vague all the time. I'm never vague,

513
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: which is why I get in trouble. That's why she's

514
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: great podcasting me because she says everything and I just

515
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: get to listen and he, you know, balances me out

516
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: because he says everything perfectly. Well I don't know about that,

517
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: but somebody chaid, I've only got to to meet you

518
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Um, one all at bad Bachelor

519
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: or Bachelor esque events. Um yeah, they've all been fantastic,

520
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: not all fantastic. But the uh, the one question I

521
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: have for you coming off of this week's episode of

522
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: The Bachelor at is you you were a villain? Uh?

523
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: And I think we can all admit that that's not

524
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: hiding anything. You were known as the villain? Uh. Did

525
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: you know during the season, like as you were actually

526
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: living in those moments, that you would be the villain? No?

527
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: I I mean I kept talking to the producers. I

528
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: was like, if you guys air everything that's happening here,

529
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: that like the whole country is gonna hate everyone here

530
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be the only person that makes any sense.

531
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: And so they couldn't air like everything that I said

532
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that like made sense, because then they would be like, well,

533
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: now everyone else looks really weird. Definitely a lot of

534
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: times that I thought you were right on actually right,

535
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: But the thing was like when I started like calling

536
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: people out on stuff that made me bad, and then

537
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: they didn't really know what to do. They couldn't like

538
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: try and make me likable or they're like everyone else

539
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: would just look really weird. So then they started running

540
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: with that. Then every question they asked me was kind

541
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: of geared towards me saying bad stuff about the other guys.

542
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: And then it just them rolled from there, and the

543
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: eventually I kind of was like, whatever, let's just do this.

544
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: The accepted the role that yeah, yeah, you know, I

545
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: mean after a while, you can't go back. I kept

546
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: being like, I don't want to say mean things anymore,

547
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, so you hate him, right, And

548
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: I'm like all right, yeah, So wa have you been

549
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: watching this season? I've only saw the last episode. Do

550
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: you think that people are trying to become the villain now?

551
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Like I think Lee is just to make a splash.

552
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: It seems like it seems like there's like three or

553
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: four dudes all kind of trying to pull the same maneuvers. Now,

554
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: Like it's gotten really crazy. I feel like, but you

555
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: went into it with no intention, no intention. But I mean, like,

556
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at everything I'm doing now,

557
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Imagine if I had let

558
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: those guys like get me kicked off, like I'd have

559
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: been like lu gee, Like I guess I'm a bad

560
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: guy juju, like you know. I mean, I'm flying all

561
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: over the world. I'm doing all this stuff. I'd be

562
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: back in Oklahoma still trying to sell houses, you know,

563
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: to like little old ladies, Like that's no fun I

564
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: want to do. Now. You're doing single. You're doing Famously

565
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Single on E which is Sundays at ten o'clock. It's

566
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: a second season. Josh Murray was on the first season,

567
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: getting from him advice from him, not really. I mean

568
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: I watched like two minutes. I never watched the shows

569
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: before I go on, and I'm just like, put me

570
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: in a house and tell me what to do. Like

571
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: but um, I talked to him a little bit after everything,

572
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: But I think for the most part I talked to

573
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: like poly d and everything before. Okay, Yeah, was also

574
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: on the first Yeah, so tell us about the premise

575
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: of FAMAS Single. Basically, it's like you take a bunch

576
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: of famous people or whatever that have been single for

577
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: a long time, and they throw us into a house

578
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: and try and figure out why we were single and

579
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: see if we can get into a relationship. Give us,

580
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: give us one reason why you're single. I was determined

581
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: by the famous Um, that's a toughie, Okay, probably just

582
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm so perfect and I haven't accepted it.

583
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: It's something I have to work on every day. I

584
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: have to wake up and convince myself it's okay. But no, Um,

585
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I think my main real reason was that I was

586
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: taking care of my mom when she was going through

587
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: cancer for like seven eight years, and um, all throughout

588
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: that time, I knew that getting into a relationship would

589
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: actually pull me away from her. So I got in

590
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: this like habit of like date for a couple of weeks,

591
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: moved to the next girl. They did a couple of weeks,

592
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, never developing any real relationships. And now I've

593
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: gotten to where, no matter how much I like a girl,

594
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: I can just like stop talking to her and move

595
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: on and go to the next one and not really

596
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: like you know, have heartbreak or anything. So that sounds

597
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: like a real problem. Well it's now it's about like

598
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: finding a girl to be able to like. Okay, I'm

599
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: just gonna make it work with this person. I'm not

600
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: going to choose to just like move on like I

601
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: always do. I mean, I guess, I mean that's some

602
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: great self perspective and self self awareness and that's not

603
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: just that hasn't just came from you thinking, you know

604
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: at night or meditating on that. This came from these shows, right,

605
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I know for me, I've talked about The

606
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelor at um have had exposed a lot

607
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: of my weaknesses, especially with relationships and how I cared

608
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: for my partners or for the people I was trying

609
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: to invest my life into. Um. Has this, I mean,

610
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: are you seeing all of this kind of came from

611
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: these shows? You know? And I knew the most. I

612
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: think I had the general gist of why I did

613
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: what I did for a while. Um, and it almost

614
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: kind of convinced me, like, well, it's okay to just

615
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: keep popping from girl to girl because I know that.

616
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't know whether I convinced myself that it's okay

617
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: or convinced myself to do it, but like at the

618
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, the show's helped me kind of

619
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: understand deeper of why, you know what I mean, Whereas

620
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I never really kind of like dug into it. But um,

621
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: but I mean I always kind of, you know, before

622
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: the shows, knew what I was doing. Yeah, but it's

623
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: like you just you just start digging into it more

624
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: emotionally because you get asked questions, so many questions in

625
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: these little interviews you know about why you're doing what

626
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: you're doing, and you just start talking and you start realizing,

627
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, as you're talking, why, well, it's really in

628
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: your head. Definitely. I mean, I think that's my advice

629
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: to anybody that goes back on these shows is you know,

630
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: the whole purpose of the Bachelor Bachelor is for the

631
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: audience and the people involved to kind of fall in

632
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: love with each other. You know, you get to know

633
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: the people better. And if you're not vulnerable, if you

634
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: aren't open, uh, then you're not only going to be

635
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: a terrible person to watch on TV or especially on

636
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: these dating shows, because nobody's ever going to get to

637
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: know you, but the person that is pursuing you is

638
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: not gonna get to know you. And I think these

639
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Speaker 1: shows have been a great um event in my life

640
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Speaker 1: because I've been able to talk about things I've said

641
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Speaker 1: in these interviews with producers for hours, just discussing why

642
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: in the heck I'm so down on myself, or why

643
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: in the heck I don't you haven't fallen in love

644
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: before these things, and you do, you start to see

645
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: things about yourself that you've never seen before. And Iggy

646
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Speaker 1: talks about that when he gets eliminated in the episode

647
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: this week, and it really resonated with me because he said,

648
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Speaker 1: I learned more about myself in four weeks than I

649
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: have in the past thirty years. And he said, and

650
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: I finally am learning to accept myself or something like that,

651
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow. You know, I haven't been

652
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: a fan of him the entire time, but he's definitely

653
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: gotten out of He's definitely gotten the right thing out

654
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: of this experience. This is a side of chat that

655
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: we don't get to see very often. It is a

656
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: side that you're actually admitting faults or in being vulnerable.

657
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: At least I haven't seen it as somebody's watching on

658
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: these shows and wasn't actually on a show with you.

659
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's always trying to get me kicked off. I'm always

660
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: just like, stop, like, stop trying to make me look

661
00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: aggressive up probably probably that everyone's like, are you actually

662
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: like super violent crazy? I'm like, well, don't try and

663
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Speaker 1: get me kicked off a TV show or steal my

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Speaker 1: wallet or something. And you know, no, like your your

665
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: social media does point to that. Like, if I was

666
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Speaker 1: just through social media, I would say, this guy is

667
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: exactly who I wanted. No, do you see him with

668
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Speaker 1: his doggie Pumpkin? Actually, just because he's a dog doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean he's a great guys. Dog. If you treat a

670
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Speaker 1: woman like you treat your dog, she's gonna be Yeah. Yeah,

671
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: for sure, my my social media when all the first

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Speaker 1: let's just meditate on what that that line? Can we

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Speaker 1: can we get that printed off somewhere. If you treat

674
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Speaker 1: a woman like you treat your dogs, he buys her

675
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: new bathing suits. Yeah, she's got some qualities actually fashion fashion.

676
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: But Chad, we can't get enough. I mean honestly, as

677
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: she was so excited for you to be in the

678
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Speaker 1: studio day, she claims you're a great guy. From just

679
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: my conversation with you today, I'd say, hey, I got

680
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot to learn about Chad, a lot to learn

681
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Speaker 1: about Chat. And if I to learn more about Chat,

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Speaker 1: at iHeart Media dot Com. Critiques comments can cern, especially praise. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's continue on this Bachelor episode Rundown. We just

724
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Speaker 1: have a few more points to touch on. It was

725
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: a crazy episode. One thing I want to talk to

726
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: you about is I felt like Rachel's first one on

727
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: one day of this of this week was awkward. I

728
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: felt like this guy was super into it, right, I

729
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: think Jack, Yeah, he didn't know Jack before this episode. Yeah,

730
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: he fell in love quickly, um, which will come back

731
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: to bite him as we've seen. Um. So he falls

732
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: in love with Rachel or whatever he thinks he's feeling

733
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: for Rachel. Um. And then he gets let go, which

734
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: which I'm happy for him because I hope he gets

735
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: a dose of reality and says, hey, you just met

736
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: this girl. Do you know what this guy looks like?

737
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: When he was talking, it was so eerie. He was

738
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: hard to watch. It's another one of those hard to

739
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: watch moments, which is what I do for all The Bachelor.

740
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: It's like not watch it and just like kind of

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: like peek through my fingers every once in a while. Wait,

742
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: we have to talk about the kiss for a second. Okay,

743
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk. I was gonna talk about how

744
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: like he always had his chinned down and he like

745
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: glares up, he like puts his eyeballs. Oh you know

746
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: I was from day Okay, so he's very weird when

747
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: he talks. But the kiss was hysterical because she goes,

748
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get sick. I'm contagious and that is the

749
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: ultimate go to line when you don't want to kiss

750
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: someone and they go in for it. And here's my

751
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: advice to Rachel as the bachelor. Bachelor at the worst

752
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: thing you can possibly tell one of the contestants is

753
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm contagious, because meaning like, hey, I've also kissed somebody

754
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: like probably right before you, probably, And this whole house

755
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: is about to get sick real quick. Did you ever

756
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: use the sick card? No, because I was just trying

757
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: to play it cool the whole time. Like for me

758
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: to admit any faults during my season the Batchel would

759
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: have been a huge step for me, Like I was

760
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: just trying to trick all these people to think I

761
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: was like the part time. Yes, maybe I tried really

762
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: hard to be cool. Let's just say that. So I

763
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: don't know if ever anybody got sick on my season,

764
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: but I do know, and I can't wait to talk

765
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: to beck about this. This week. Is I was in

766
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Mexico City and I was hiding around the corner because

767
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: the women were staying in this room and they all

768
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: or a lot of them, had just gotten the stomach

769
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Speaker 1: flu and they're all talking about it in the hallway,

770
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: and so I could hear a couple of the women

771
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: from my season talking about what was going on with

772
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: their stomachs, and they had no clue I was there.

773
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: So I cannot wait to talk to her about that.

774
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: But so so I don't know if that was from me.

775
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Such a good story, it's going to be such a

776
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: good story. There's a lot of stomach flu that happened

777
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: on my season, hopefully not just because of me, right,

778
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean we're at the plate place in

779
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: time in the Bachelor at that we're starting to get

780
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: to know these guys better. We're starting to find out

781
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: who we like and not like we're starting to see

782
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: the villain, and and we're starting to see how these

783
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: kind of storylines to play out. Were I would say

784
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: we're close to halfway. Um, Rachel's gonna start really starting

785
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: to have to decide who she cares about and who

786
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: she doesn't. And then also there is a level of

787
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: of the show where she has to be strategic in

788
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: the sense of she if there's if she sees somebody

789
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: there that she is not fully committed to, and and

790
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: and but they're they have a great heart, and they

791
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: could get hurt easily. Maybe she just to decide do

792
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: I let them go early or late? Do I like

793
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: to keep them around for a little long because they're

794
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: just really good to have around. Um, And I think

795
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: about this time, she's really gonna start seeing who, if anyone,

796
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: she could be with. Right, did you ever have to

797
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: dump people on your one on ones? Because I feel

798
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: like Rachel, I don't know, I don't remember, might be

799
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Speaker 1: a fan of that. Yeah, she's doing it, and I

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Speaker 1: kind of really like that because I feel like if

801
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Speaker 1: you get the one on one, you normally feel like

802
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna stick around that week. But that is definitely

803
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: not the case with Rachel. Yeah. No, she's confident, and

804
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Speaker 1: I think Rachel's gonna make the decision that she feels

805
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: like her best and she's going to kind of follow

806
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: her heart, maybe a little quicker than I would. Um,

807
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: but no, I think most of my one on ones

808
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: really well. Um, I always I look back. I mean,

809
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: maybe I'm missing something, but I've always I think most

810
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: of my goodbyes happened either midweek because of something crazy

811
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: or at a roast ceremony. It's it's a question that

812
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: has kind of came up in my life A lot

813
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: here recently, right, as I've now been entered into single

814
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: life again. Um, I guess I've opened myself up to

815
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: two more girl friend relationships, like having friends at our house. Yeah,

816
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: gop house. Let's say that. Um. One of them just

817
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: happens to be my ex girlfriend from college. Um. And

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Speaker 1: here's a crazy story behind this, right. So one of

819
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Speaker 1: my best friends, who is the founder of Humanity and

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Speaker 1: Hope United, which is the nonprofit that I support, and

821
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Speaker 1: his wife live in Austin, Texas and my ex girlfriend

822
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Speaker 1: from college lives in Austin, Texas. And they've stayed friends

823
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Speaker 1: the whole time. There's some of the best friends, right.

824
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Speaker 1: And so this last week I was actually in Austin

825
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Speaker 1: for a meeting for the coffee company that I'm starting

826
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Speaker 1: with my buddy, and we all decided to go go

827
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Speaker 1: out have fun. It was their three year old's birthday

828
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Speaker 1: and so they're kind of celebrating three years of being

829
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Speaker 1: parents and we were all in town. Well, my ex

830
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Speaker 1: girlfriend was there, and we were seeing in town, just

831
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Speaker 1: hanging out, just you know, with everybody. Well, I think

832
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Speaker 1: a couple of trolls on the internet started to say, oh,

833
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Speaker 1: we saw a video have been and his ex girlfriend

834
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Speaker 1: together and oh they must be dating again. They must

835
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: be falling back in love. He never liked Lauren. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, So I mean and and all that is,

837
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Speaker 1: I guess, uh laughable because of course I did. And

838
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: of course like, um, you know, we are just friends.

839
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Speaker 1: But Ben, but would you ever think about going back? Yeah,

840
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: but it is it is crazy to think of like

841
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Speaker 1: in our society, we can't be friends with our exes.

842
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: And actually, I think you know what I get all

843
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: the time. You know, Jared and I can't post ever

844
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Speaker 1: a picture. You can't post a picture because we definitely

845
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: are dating and we're definitely gonna get married one day,

846
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Speaker 1: even if one of us doesn't see it like you guys,

847
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I know as a fact, says commenters that we will

848
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: definitely get married one day. Well, I hope so. Well.

849
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Speaker 1: So I understand this completely. And it took me a

850
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Speaker 1: long time to get to the point where I could

851
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: just be friends with Jared and uh, yeah, I mean

852
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: you can be friends with your ex. I think there's

853
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: always gonna be some sort of lingering feeling. Um, if

854
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: it's not always, I think it comes in cycles. Definitely. Yeah,

855
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: let's see if Gabby in Los Angeles has any opinion

856
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: on this, Gabby, do you think you can be friends

857
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: with your ex? I absolutely think that that's a thing

858
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: that you can do. Thank you so much. Are you

859
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: ordering food? Are you ordering food right now? That's perfect?

860
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: What are you eating? Okay? Perfect? So okay? As you

861
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: sit there and enjoy your ramen um and hundreds of

862
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: thousands of people are listening to you on a podcast

863
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: right now, eat your ramen um. Can't you do believe

864
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: you be friends with your ex? Because that's what I believe.

865
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: I think, not all, not every time. Right, You're gonna

866
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: have exes that come into your life on a situation basis, Yeah, definitely,

867
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: But it's not a bad thing, right. I mean, if

868
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: if you've moved on and you they know you better

869
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: than a lot of people in the world know you,

870
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: and you still like each other, like you're still like

871
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: you're pretty cool person, it seems like you should be friends. Absolutely.

872
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that Statemam. And me and my

873
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: boyfriend we broke up six months ago, and because we

874
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: like moved separate places and we FaceTime all the time.

875
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: He talks to me when I'm like I live in

876
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: a new city and I'm freaking out, and you know

877
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: it's it's really really helpful to have someone there for

878
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: you who knows you. Bet definitely. Yeah. Well I appreciate

879
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: that perspective cause I agree with you, but we have

880
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: buddy somebody on the line that disagrees with you. Oh yeah,

881
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: Brett Collorado Springs, Hello, Hi Brett, Hi, Hi, how you doing.

882
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: Can you be friends with your exs? Brett? Absolutely not.

883
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you. If I had to

884
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: choose one or the other, I would go with this team.

885
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: My mom was actually talking to me about this this week.

886
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: It's totally old school, but back in the day, on

887
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: our parents generation, there's no way that you stayed friends

888
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: with your acts. This is such a millennial thing. Brett

889
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: explain why. Well, it was about maybe seven years ago.

890
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: Seven I had seven years ago. Yeah, I had just

891
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: gotten engaged. Oh, you can't be friends of the next fiancee.

892
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: Well no, actually, so I had an ex boyfriend from

893
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: a few years further from that who reached out to me.

894
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, build up a friendship again,

895
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: and you know I was open to it. If you want, say,

896
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: last like the military, I really needed so great a

897
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: friend and it didn't really work out. Um drunk, I

898
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: don't know. We had like a hours called about how

899
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: much we loved each other. Oh, it was just a

900
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: phone call. I mean, it's still cheating, but it really was.

901
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean I felt like the worst person in the world.

902
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: So I you know, I told my fiancee. You know,

903
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: he was obviously up to it, but you know, I

904
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: cut off. I cut that person out of my life

905
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: and I'm still married to this day. That okay, okay,

906
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: that let me. Yeah, that was a good ending to

907
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: a story that I was, like I was, I was

908
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: trying to follow, but I was feeling for you, us,

909
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: feeling for your fiance I'm feeling for this third party.

910
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: But here, okay, so let's break this down together. Um,

911
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: you were lonely, you you were desiring somebody. Now that

912
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: might be a situation I think where you have to

913
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: put a boundary, and I don't think being a friend

914
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: with your ex in this situation is is a good choice,

915
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: which you found out. You have to set boundaries if

916
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: you're in a committed relationship, but if you're not, then

917
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: you could have been friends. And I'm not talking anything romantic, right,

918
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: So like I'm just saying you're just friends, like you

919
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: don't talk to each other at the time, but when

920
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: you see each other it's great to catch up. You

921
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: can you can be around a bunch of people at once. Um,

922
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: I think that's okay. Would you agree with that? I

923
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: agree with that, But I mean if you're going to

924
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: movies with them or you know, going out to eat,

925
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: then you're crossing some lines. And I think if you

926
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: can keep the boundary there with your just relationship, go

927
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: for it. But if you think you'd be tempted in

928
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: the slightest backup them out. I would have to say

929
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: that if you've got to be friends with your ex

930
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: and you're not in a relationship, and that's fine, But

931
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: if you are in a relationship, then it's not that cool.

932
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't think you were hanging out with your

933
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend if you're still at Lauren. No, no, no,

934
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I know. I agree with you completely on

935
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: that front. You have to set those boundaries in life,

936
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: like what Amy? Okay, Amy, the producer chimes in to disagree.

937
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: That's when you should be friends with your ex is

938
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: and anybody you want to. If you're you're engaged to somebody,

939
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: you're committed to them. There's nothing wrong with being friends

940
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: with men or an ex. I don't know. I would

941
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: always feel like I just gonna think you're just gonna

942
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: get engaged and just cut off everybody so you get engaged.

943
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: No more Wells, no more Jared, all these friends you've had,

944
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I mean, I think i'd have to disagree there.

945
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I didn't cut out all of

946
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: my friends, but you know I did other exes I

947
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: did cut out. Um. I thought the relationship hathetics. I

948
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: could keep it appropriate, and it turned out I couldn't.

949
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to is if you can't

950
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: be appropriate, you shouldn't be friends with that. If you

951
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: can be great, I can't be appropriate. That's the bottom

952
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: line here, and that's actually for you. She knows herself

953
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: better than anybody else. Actually cannot be appropriate. Brett. Thank

954
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: you for calling in. Um, congratulations on still being married.

955
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. We should celebrate that. Ben. Do

956
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: you ever think that you could be friends with Lauren?

957
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: Definitely close friends? I mean, right now, that's so hard

958
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: for me to say, because like just being friends with

959
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: her seems so weird, Like you know, I think there's

960
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: still that like emotional connection that I haven't released. I

961
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I ever release it. But if I

962
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: can give up kind of the um that emotional attachment,

963
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: and then yeah, we could just be friends. We could

964
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: catch up, we could I don't know, hang out in groups.

965
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: But right now that, right now, that just seems so

966
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: odd to me that I'm even putting her in a

967
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: friend category that makes sense. Points like is there really

968
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: a point of being friends with your ex? Because have

969
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: enough friends in your life? They're good people, And I'd say, yeah,

970
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: that's hard, that's I don't know if I'm like if

971
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: I need a thousand more friends. But when you meet

972
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: somebody that is special and that you want to share

973
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: life with and in terms of dating, then afterwards it's

974
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: great to still share life with them at some level,

975
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: like not every time, but sometimes so I hope so.

976
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: But no, right now I would consider Lauren somebody that

977
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: I just respect a lot, I care about a lot,

978
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: But putting her in that friend category still seems weird

979
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: to me. Um or seems hard. I guess that's what

980
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: with me and Jared, People like still always say, what's

981
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: up with that? How do you be friends with somebody

982
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: you cried over so many times on TV. But basically

983
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: we both made a decision that we couldn't we didn't

984
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: want to be without each other. Yeah, I mean, relationships

985
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: are difficult, if it's romantic, if it's friendships, if it's

986
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: family romantics. Relationships are hard and it takes work and commitment.

987
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: And I think maybe, um, just to kind of close

988
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: off this topic, is you could be friends with somebody

989
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: that you've been in a relationship with because you've already

990
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: put the work in to show them that you are loyal,

991
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: hopefully committed and worthy to be at least worthy to

992
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: be trusted. And um, so I don't know. Yeah, I

993
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: mean I hope that one day Lauren I can be

994
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: friends and and but we'll see. What do you have

995
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: to say the haters out there who told you that

996
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be friends with your X and

997
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: they saw you out this weekend with her, Well, I

998
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: would say thank you for bringing up a great topic

999
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:24,400
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1000
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