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Speaker 5: We got so much to talk about tonight, so let's
Speaker 5: get right into the controversy that's still rocking Trump's cabinet.
Speaker 5: In another installment of the Worst Wing, What a bunch
Speaker 5: of losers, None of that was Ai bye. Now we
Speaker 5: all know that all Trump's meritocracy brain geniuses planned an
Speaker 5: attack on yehmen in a signal group chat and accidentally
Speaker 5: invited a journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg. And this story might have
Speaker 5: ended on day one if the administration had just owned
Speaker 5: it and made some bullshit statement like Sorrey, we're taking
Speaker 5: account of valet hashtag listening and learning and blah dah
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah. But they just can't help themselves
Speaker 5: because whenever they're in trouble, their default response is to
Speaker 5: punch their way out of it, which only makes things worse.
Speaker 5: So now we're still talking about this three days later,
Speaker 5: instead of what I wanted to cover tonight, which was
Speaker 5: twenty three and meter going bankrupt and what they're gonna
Speaker 5: do with all your DNA one word face off? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 5: that's two words with us slash and we can't decide
Speaker 5: to fact. Look, it doesn't matter, right. The point is
Speaker 5: they're gonna put your face on someone else, and the
Speaker 5: White House wants to move on. Uh, they've got to
Speaker 5: come clean and stop stepping on their own dicks. Okay,
Speaker 5: So let's start with something easy for National Security Advisor
Speaker 5: to Mike Waltz. How did the reporter get invited into
Speaker 5: the group chat?
Speaker 6: I don't mean to be a pedantic here, but how
Speaker 6: did the number?
Speaker 7: Have you ever had? Have you ever had somebody's contact
Speaker 7: that shows their name and then you have an and
Speaker 7: then you have somebody else's.
Speaker 3: That was a mistake, right, You've.
Speaker 7: Got somebody else's number on someone else's contact.
Speaker 3: So of course I.
Speaker 7: Didn't see this loser in the group.
Speaker 3: It looked like someone else.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sure everybody out there has had a
Speaker 7: contact where you it was said one person and then
Speaker 7: a different phone number.
Speaker 5: No, no one's no one's ever had, No one's ever
Speaker 5: had that. All right, people don't have a contact with
Speaker 5: a phone number for like a different person unless they're
Speaker 5: having an affair.
Speaker 8: So I.
Speaker 5: Guess I'm saying, I think this guy is having an
Speaker 5: affair with Jeffrey Goldberg. And look, even if that was
Speaker 5: an actual, somewhat relatable mistake, maybe try not making that
Speaker 5: mistake when you're planning a war. And why are you
Speaker 5: shitting on Jeffrey Goldberg is a loser. This guy sucks.
Speaker 5: It's dishonest. He didn't do anything. All he did was
Speaker 5: wake up in the morning, and you added him to
Speaker 5: your group chat, You like abducted him and forced him
Speaker 5: to see your secrets. But okay, the bigger issue is
Speaker 5: what was shared in the group chat. Jeffrey Goldberg says
Speaker 5: there were war plans that were so sensitive he didn't
Speaker 5: even put them in his article. But Pete Hegseth spent
Speaker 5: the last two days saying he's lying.
Speaker 3: Nobody was texting war plans.
Speaker 8: Nobody's texting more plans.
Speaker 5: Nobody's texting more plans. Okay, great, clemby more clear. Nobody
Speaker 5: what's texting wall plans? You hear me, nobody what's texting
Speaker 5: war plans? Nobody what's texting?
Speaker 9: And we begin with the breaking news The Atlantic Magazines
Speaker 9: editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg is releasing the messages from
Speaker 9: the Yemens Strike Plans group chat, and the screenshots show
Speaker 9: discussions of weapons and specific.
Speaker 3: Timing of US military strikes.
Speaker 10: Eleven forty four am easter at that time weather is favorable.
Speaker 10: Just confirmed with Syncom we are a go for mission
Speaker 10: launch twelve to fifteen Eastern F eighteen's launch declaring this
Speaker 10: first strike package thirteen forty five trigger based F eighteen
Speaker 10: first strike windows starts target terrorists is at his known location,
Speaker 10: so should be on time. Fourteen fifteen strike drones on target.
Speaker 8: This is all caps.
Speaker 10: This is when the first bombs will definitely drop.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: Look, just because you write in all calves this is
Speaker 5: when the first bombs will definitely drop, doesn't mean the
Speaker 5: war plans. Okay, this is Peter hag Seth. Maybe he
Speaker 5: was talking about Yeager bombs. But if you, well, if you,
Speaker 5: if you're asking me, that looks a lot like a
Speaker 5: plan for the war. It had military time and everything. Okay,
Speaker 5: it had more details than you get from door Dash
Speaker 5: and those guys tell you everything. All right, A fifty six,
Speaker 5: we have received your order. A fifty nine we are
Speaker 5: preparing your food. Nine oh six. We accidentally dropped your
Speaker 5: food nine oh seven. Actually, don't worry about it, wing away.
Speaker 5: So I think it's a war plan. But what the
Speaker 5: hell do I know? I've never seen one before, because
Speaker 5: no one's ever been dumb enough to put one in
Speaker 5: a group chat with a journalist. But maybe maybe it's
Speaker 5: a maybe this is a good thing. Okay, the receipts
Speaker 5: are out, so we can call a spade a spade
Speaker 5: and admit that these are indeed very specific warplans. I
Speaker 5: don't think it's specific enough to be considered war plans.
Speaker 6: It doesn't tell you, hey, we're gonna hit this particular village,
Speaker 6: this particular city, this particular target is a particular individual.
Speaker 2: They were talking about when not specific longitude, latitude and
Speaker 2: all that other stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Janine must be a nightmare to make plans with. Hey,
Speaker 5: you said me that chili's at seven, But where's the
Speaker 5: fucking longitude? Like, stop pretending you need some oboritrary detail
Speaker 5: to make it a war plan. Okay, it's like saying
Speaker 5: this wasn't an orgy. We didn't have the pink feathers
Speaker 5: and the eyes, white shut masks. Well, there are more
Speaker 5: than three decks, then it was an orgy. Okay, everything
Speaker 5: else is semantics. You know what you tell me. If
Speaker 5: having a detailed schedule plan of attack is not a
Speaker 5: war plan, then what is it?
Speaker 3: Do you think these are war plans?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 7: This is you know, it's a it's an outline of
Speaker 7: what is about to happen.
Speaker 3: There were no war plans in any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: There's a conversation.
Speaker 5: This was a private conversation.
Speaker 11: I would characterize this messaging thread as a policy discussion,
Speaker 11: a sensitive policy discussion.
Speaker 3: Surely, what is.
Speaker 5: A war plan?
Speaker 4: Whoa?
Speaker 5: What is war?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 1: It's just raw spelled backwards.
Speaker 5: I think it was Shakespeare that said, what is in
Speaker 5: a plan? That which we call a war by any
Speaker 5: other name? Would accidentally get texted to? Jeffrey Goldberg well
Speaker 5: more in this stupid argument, we go live to the Pentagon,
Speaker 5: which senior war correspondent Michael Costa Michael, Michael, Hey, am
Speaker 5: I crazy? Or are these very clearly warplans?
Speaker 1: You're crazy, Ronnie?
Speaker 6: You know, be a civilian reporter like yourself, spills his
Speaker 6: cortado all over his little ug boots reading these texts.
Speaker 6: But the grizzled veterans that the Trump administration know that
Speaker 6: these are not war plans. I mean, would it be
Speaker 6: a war plan if I said, Carrier Strike Group two
Speaker 6: will engage fourteen targets in Northeast Syria at O nine
Speaker 6: hundred tomorrow. Sent Coom says, go, I repeat, Scentcom says,
Speaker 6: go over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds like a wool plan.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you're a civilian, you know, peeing through his
Speaker 6: full raven jacket all over his Lululemon Yoga Matt. But
Speaker 6: it's not a war plan because I didn't say something specific,
Speaker 6: like what type of plane they're using.
Speaker 1: You have no idea that it's an F eighteen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just said that as an faighteen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, F eighteen could mean anything.
Speaker 6: It could could be a bingo number or a parking spot.
Speaker 6: F eighteen could be pete Hegseth's search on a dating app.
Speaker 5: You don't know, okay, but fateen is clearly a plane.
Speaker 1: Oh you're an expert.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 6: The only military figure you know anything about is general
Speaker 6: So by the way, by the way, by the way,
Speaker 6: that's a burn about you being a civilian not an Asian.
Speaker 5: Okay, then why don't you enlighten me of your military genius.
Speaker 5: If that's not war planning, then.
Speaker 1: What is it's it's war manifesting.
Speaker 6: You know, hag Seth was asking the universe to drop
Speaker 6: a Tomahawk missile and it happened.
Speaker 1: How much you ever read the Secret you.
Speaker 6: Know, the book, not the State Secrets he text, Jeffrey Goldberg.
Speaker 5: You really want me to believe this was war manifesting?
Speaker 6: Of course it was manifesting, no different than making a
Speaker 6: vision board.
Speaker 1: It kind of like this one, you know.
Speaker 5: Look, look, holy shit, is that a war plan for Canada?
Speaker 6: There you go again with that phrase war plan.
Speaker 1: It's not a war plan. It's an operational scribbling.
Speaker 5: Although war plan has like arrows and airplanes and like
Speaker 5: weapons and no cross has and the times. It's clearly
Speaker 5: a plan name big Canada.
Speaker 6: Look, but we don't know which Canada, you know, And
Speaker 6: none of these arrows are even labeled, so we don't
Speaker 6: know where we will be attacking, which is why the
Speaker 6: people of Winnipeg and bamps here and here will never
Speaker 6: see this coming on Saturday at noon, it's.
Speaker 1: Going to be sweet.
Speaker 5: Okay, where did you even get that war map?
Speaker 1: The DoD accidentally mail?
Speaker 6: It's in my house Mike Waltz has my address in
Speaker 6: his contacts.
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. He's having an affair with
Speaker 1: my wife.
Speaker 5: Okay, great job. I guess Michael costs everyone.
Speaker 11: When we come back, we find out Chris di Stefano
Speaker 11: can solvate, So don't go away.
Speaker 5: Welcome back in the Daily Show. America has a ton
Speaker 5: of problems right now, and no one knows who can
Speaker 5: solve them, but Chris DeStefano will give it a try
Speaker 5: and on you segment, can Chris solve it?
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I'm Chris Desifanu, as Ronnie said, aka Chrissy
Speaker 2: the American, And if you're like me, you love having
Speaker 2: opinions on things that you don't know anything about. Like,
Speaker 2: for example, there's no way childbirth is not bad, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, we have tailand aw.
Speaker 5: It's easy, Ronnie.
Speaker 2: So today we're going to go through some of the
Speaker 2: world's biggest problems to find out if Chrissy can solve them.
Speaker 5: Hit me.
Speaker 7: Market script by anxiety about an all out terraff for.
Speaker 3: Tariffs.
Speaker 2: I have to be honest, I have no idea what
Speaker 2: a tariff is. I really don't, and don't pretend you
Speaker 2: do either. Babes and unless you went to like Hofser University,
Speaker 2: one of the fancy ones, but I couldn't get in.
Speaker 2: When I first saw the word tariff, I thought it
Speaker 2: was a Dune character. I was like, yes, tarif will
Speaker 2: lead to sandpeople to freedom.
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 2: But listen, apparently that's not what tarifs are. It's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a tax on imports, and that sounds bad because
Speaker 2: America imports everything. I'm pretty sure the only thing America
Speaker 2: makes are the Real Housewives, and those ladies are fifty
Speaker 2: percent plastics, so I don't even know if that counts.
Speaker 3: I mean, where does plastic come from?
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know, but it feels Chinese.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: If they're gonna have a war, a trade war is
Speaker 2: probably better than like a war.
Speaker 3: War, you know what I mean, like with guys and women.
Speaker 2: Obviously you know they kill each other too, Ladies. My
Speaker 2: gramps was in a war war. He was crawling through
Speaker 2: the mud dodging bullets in Okinawa. Now I'm just paying
Speaker 2: eighty cents more for WAK. But hey, we're still both
Speaker 2: here us. I'm gonna go ahead and call this one solved.
Speaker 6: Next topic, the battle over President Trump's actions to secure
Speaker 6: the border and combat illegal immigration.
Speaker 3: Immigration.
Speaker 2: Everyone, buckle up, everyone, please stop saying there are two
Speaker 2: sides to this issue.
Speaker 3: We have to have a country with laws.
Speaker 2: The border should at least be as secure as the
Speaker 2: deodorant at CBS. If you want to get in, you
Speaker 2: have to hit a button and wait for ice to
Speaker 2: come unlock the wall. But listen, that being said, we
Speaker 2: also have to celebrate legal immigrants.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 2: Even though I look like the fire chief of ron Konkama,
Speaker 2: my wife and kids are Puerto Rican Olah. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so I know how it feels when people hate on
Speaker 2: the Latino community.
Speaker 3: What's up, dad?
Speaker 2: Look, the reality is this, immigrants can make our country better.
Speaker 2: For instance, our soccer team has never won a single
Speaker 2: World Cup.
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: How about free green cars to anyone who can make
Speaker 2: a penalty kick? Right, it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: What I thought.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's get it done. Vama nostros or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to learn Spanish. That's for my
Speaker 2: wife and kids who talk shit about me. I mean crap, sorry, mommy.
Speaker 2: At as you can see, I actually know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about on this subject, because, like I said, I
Speaker 2: not only have a Puerto Rican family, but I'm also
Speaker 2: from Queens, the most diverse community in America.
Speaker 3: And yeah, right fella, and look, hey, look how I
Speaker 3: turned out. I'm only kind of racist.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is this country should welcome everyone
Speaker 2: who wants to meaningfully contribute to American society except Dominicans.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, I'm Puerto Rico poppy, and apparently
Speaker 2: there's bad blood. But I don't speak Spanish and my
Speaker 2: kids will teach me, so either way, this one's soft.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, here we go. No, seriously, that was
Speaker 2: I was nervous on that one. That was a controversial subject.
Speaker 2: So I want to get to something a little lighter,
Speaker 2: so hippie, all right, Can I spin again?
Speaker 3: Can I spin again?
Speaker 2: Because I just I don't want to say anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: can we just get rid of the trans writes on
Speaker 2: the board? Not on the board, Jesus Christ, don't.
Speaker 10: Clip that drama surrounding Elon Musk and his Department of
Speaker 10: Government Efficiency.
Speaker 8: Doge, who I was.
Speaker 2: Close, wiggled out, Okay, Doge, please do not tell me
Speaker 2: you're against the government running more efficiently. I mean, anyone
Speaker 2: who says that doesn't remember the DMV before they installed
Speaker 2: the bakery number system.
Speaker 5: I mean remember that.
Speaker 3: It's still too slow though.
Speaker 2: I mean by the time I get to the window,
Speaker 2: I forget why I'm even there. I'm like, yeah, let
Speaker 2: me get a half a pound of mortadella.
Speaker 3: I mean sorry, I have a DUI.
Speaker 2: That said some of these cuts might be going too deep.
Speaker 2: I mean, they just listed Guantanamo Bay on Airbnb, and hey,
Speaker 2: if you've ever stayed at an Airbnb, it could be worse.
Speaker 5: My solution.
Speaker 2: Let them do their cuts, but I get to bring
Speaker 2: a baseball bat on a plane if you're at defunding
Speaker 2: air marshals.
Speaker 8: I'm not going down without a fight.
Speaker 3: Now give me that seat, give me that aisle seat.
Speaker 3: I'd pee a lot. Christy the prostate, all right, solved it.
Speaker 9: Moving on, President Trump is doubling down on claims that
Speaker 9: controlling Greenland maybe in America's future.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Canada isn't the only cold, pasty country Trump wants.
Speaker 2: He's also after Greenland.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: People are really mad about this for some reason. And
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, I've never even met
Speaker 2: a single person that's been to Greenland, let alone anyone
Speaker 2: from Greenland. And like I said, I'm from Queens. We
Speaker 2: got everybody there. One time I had to break up
Speaker 2: a fight between a Hari Krishna and a meter made
Speaker 2: from Tajikistan.
Speaker 3: I was like, you guys both wear robes. Just be friends.
Speaker 2: True. Now, Also, this is crazy. Did you know there's
Speaker 2: only fifty thousand people in Greenland? I have fifty thousand
Speaker 2: people on my block, not for nothing. You guys are
Speaker 2: also being kind of greedy with that land. It's six
Speaker 2: hundred million acres. That's got to be at least four
Speaker 2: home depots. What are they doing in Greenland? I mean,
Speaker 2: is that where they make the plastic?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And if you're a liberal and you hate this, maybe
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have spent so much time telling Trump to
Speaker 2: go green. This is what he thought you meant so
Speaker 2: and it's true. And I gotta be honest, that's what
Speaker 2: I thought you meant too. I'm an idiot. We cannot
Speaker 2: please these people, so I'm just gonna mark this one
Speaker 2: not sold all right, Yeah, can't win them all.
Speaker 3: Well that's it for me.
Speaker 2: I hope you didn't learn anything today, because if you did,
Speaker 2: that means you're even dumber than me. And I got
Speaker 2: bad news for you. You're definitely getting rejected from Hofstra.
Speaker 3: So I'm christ Stephano and I hope I saw that
Speaker 3: one for you.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, Chris. When we come back, Jeeve
Speaker 5: cool it will be joining you on the show. If
Speaker 5: you don't go, well, it's just awful. Welcome back to
Speaker 5: the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a legendary comedian
Speaker 5: an actor whose new film is called The Penguin Lessons.
Speaker 5: Please welcome the one and only legendary mister Steve Coogan.
Speaker 3: Ovation Fading Ovation.
Speaker 5: In New York.
Speaker 8: I know that's unusual.
Speaker 5: No, we reserve it for legends, your legend. It's so
Speaker 5: great to finally meet you. I've been following you for
Speaker 5: a long time, huge fan of yours.
Speaker 8: You made me feel old keeper.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because I kind of we kind You
Speaker 5: started in live performing, and I also started in live performing,
Speaker 5: and we went to Edinburgh. You went to Edinburgh in
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety you did a show with mister Frank Skinner,
Speaker 5: and then you went back in nineteen ninety two you
Speaker 5: did a show with mister John Thompson and a second
Speaker 5: At the same time, you're doing the show with Richard Herring.
Speaker 5: And was it Aarmando Nucci.
Speaker 8: I'm chie Patrick Stewart Lee was on that.
Speaker 5: And then you won the Perrier, which is the best
Speaker 5: show at Edinburgh. For the show with John Thompson. And
Speaker 5: I went to Edinburgh, I won nothing and I.
Speaker 8: Think I hated it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so yeah, I hated it too. The first time
Speaker 12: I went with Frank Skinner, this British comedian, and the reviews,
Speaker 12: the reviews were great for him and for me they
Speaker 12: were terrible. And the newspaper they're in. He hid under
Speaker 12: the sofa so I wouldn't find it, but I did.
Speaker 5: But then you came back with vengeance in the end.
Speaker 8: I won.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, But I guess, yeah, I know Edinburgh. I
Speaker 5: say all of that to be like, first of all,
Speaker 5: I've been to Edinburgh. It's the biggest live performing festival.
Speaker 5: But I guess you being a household name comedy legend,
Speaker 5: very established in the UK, but you still stick with
Speaker 5: live performing, never let that go. And I guess I'm
Speaker 5: wondering for myself, Like you know, I like to I
Speaker 5: like to think I've been able to do it too.
Speaker 8: But I think it's good.
Speaker 12: I mean, I have a recurrent dream where I'm about
Speaker 12: to go on stage with no material and I wake
Speaker 12: up in a cold sweat.
Speaker 8: But but you know, I.
Speaker 5: Think, why why do you stick? Why do you what
Speaker 5: makes you think? Like?
Speaker 12: I think it's important to you know when you when
Speaker 12: you write comedy and you do comedy on TV, you know,
Speaker 12: you there's so many layers between you and the audience.
Speaker 12: You don't see them laughing. You do, I mean you
Speaker 12: do because they're over there and you're the guys are
Speaker 12: here again. But a lot of time these guys for.
Speaker 8: That's what those guys with the whips are.
Speaker 12: So I think it's important to to to to get
Speaker 12: rid of all the filters because you can sort of
Speaker 12: you can.
Speaker 8: You don't want to be in an ivory tower. You
Speaker 8: got to be connected with.
Speaker 12: Your audience and make sure they're still laughing and see
Speaker 12: the whites of their eyes and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: Right, As a live performer, you use it to stay
Speaker 5: connected to the crown. Is there any element of it
Speaker 5: where you feel like just as career diversification and just
Speaker 5: from a pure money point of view in terms of like,
Speaker 5: oh that stuff people can take away from your TV film,
Speaker 5: but live performing, it's always it's.
Speaker 12: True if you if people want to come and see that,
Speaker 12: they'll come and see you, and there's no and you
Speaker 12: you got. You're in total control, you know. And also
Speaker 12: it's like it's quite gladly your toil.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 12: If if it's successful, you get all the credit, but
Speaker 12: if it fails, it's all your fault.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And and you do, like I mean, you kept
Speaker 5: again you got. I don't know if I should tell
Speaker 5: people this. You have like all the money in the world.
Speaker 5: You don't need to do anything anymore.
Speaker 8: You might as rich as Elon Musk.
Speaker 5: Second, Yeah, and you you still got. And I mean
Speaker 5: you did, and only do you do the Alan Partridge
Speaker 5: live show. You did like Doctor Strange Love. Recently I did.
Speaker 8: The Stanley Kuber movie. We did it on stage.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I played Pizza Salas did this famous and anyone
Speaker 12: over fifty and the artists might know this movie?
Speaker 8: Yes, Wow, okay, I'm surprised too.
Speaker 5: Where did you guys come from?
Speaker 12: So this He did this movie about nuclear war, a comedy,
Speaker 12: a black comedy about nuclear war, and Pieter Sellers played
Speaker 12: three roles in it. And I did a live stage
Speaker 12: version and I did four roles because I wanted to
Speaker 12: do better than Pizza Sellers I just wanted to beat
Speaker 12: a dead man, so.
Speaker 5: That no, but which is great because four roles and
Speaker 5: you are like losing you I saw you doing press
Speaker 5: for it, and you are like losing your voice from it.
Speaker 12: Your do It's like when you when you're doing four
Speaker 12: roles on stage, you're on and up so fast. When
Speaker 12: you go off stage, they pull all the clothes off you,
Speaker 12: not in a good way, and then put it all
Speaker 12: back on you, and it's like a Formula one pit
Speaker 12: stuff because you're just going back by by by back,
Speaker 12: and you're back on stage and I did one hundred
Speaker 12: and forty shows and I'm done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but again again, all the money in the world,
Speaker 5: why did you do that?
Speaker 12: I think maybe I'm a Catholic, and because I'm a Catholic,
Speaker 12: I like to sort of punish myself and do penance.
Speaker 8: What they call penance, it's lent.
Speaker 5: So you know that was a doing Doctor Treet's love
Speaker 5: was your len?
Speaker 12: I think if you, I think somehow like if hard
Speaker 12: work is good and if if if life gets too easy,
Speaker 12: you get too lazy, it's good to kind of make
Speaker 12: to scare yourself.
Speaker 5: Right, And I guess that goes back to what was
Speaker 5: saying about you being this legendary comedic figure in the
Speaker 5: UK Alan Partridge and you've done it for so long now,
Speaker 5: I mean, do you do stuff to just kick yourself
Speaker 5: in the ass, just to because you've managed to like
Speaker 5: reinvent this character you've been doing for I guess what
Speaker 5: thirty years now?
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, in the UK is an institution people over here,
Speaker 12: it's not that well known over here.
Speaker 8: The only people know him over here the cool people
Speaker 8: like Bill Hayden.
Speaker 3: Me, I know, I know you you.
Speaker 8: Gen Z or millennial don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm like why and then they call me millennial? I
Speaker 5: resent that, but I don't know.
Speaker 12: Okay, well I'm definitely I'm the last of the baby
Speaker 12: boomers start Generation X.
Speaker 5: In between there, so just to say it all of
Speaker 5: a white, middle aged guy.
Speaker 8: So I know, I'm an endangered species.
Speaker 5: Not as in danger as you think. Right, they're doing
Speaker 5: pretty well, right, having a resurgence. That's true, they were,
Speaker 5: they were endangered for a while. We brought them back
Speaker 5: from but I'm sorry about But the point is that
Speaker 5: Allan Patres is a I like to call you mom
Speaker 5: famous in the UK. Everybody no mom's know you know
Speaker 5: how famous you have to be to be mom famous,
Speaker 5: It's very difficult. And so you're that level in the UK,
Speaker 5: and so like, is that like why you.
Speaker 8: I'm kind of part of the furniture in.
Speaker 5: The UK institution.
Speaker 12: Over here, I'm still kind of I'm still a bit
Speaker 12: because no one knows who I am.
Speaker 8: I'm a little underground. So I'm still quite cool and edgy.
Speaker 8: I come here to I come here to feel cool.
Speaker 8: I go back. That's around a living.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but I mean that also is relevant for
Speaker 5: me too, because I really had to ask myself this,
Speaker 5: not only coming to America, but staying here in American
Speaker 5: show business. Why do you come to America?
Speaker 12: Why are you I don't It's not like I want
Speaker 12: to come to America to live the American dream. I
Speaker 12: come here because I get to work with interesting people
Speaker 12: and uh fortunately because the people I admire have had
Speaker 12: chance to work with them in the past, people Owen
Speaker 12: Wilson and Stiller and uh and and you know, so
Speaker 12: I go and work with people I respect, people who
Speaker 12: want to do you know, I want to entertain people,
Speaker 12: and but I want to have some substance to it too,
Speaker 12: you know. I like to I like to make people laugh.
Speaker 12: I like to punch up, not punch down like your president.
Speaker 5: So but yes, that's right, our president. We are applauding
Speaker 5: the president right now.
Speaker 8: Okay, uh yeah.
Speaker 5: And you so you do come to America to kind
Speaker 5: of ask you to be and challenge yourself.
Speaker 12: And I just I go where the where the where
Speaker 12: the interesting people are?
Speaker 8: You know. I mean, I'm lucky enough.
Speaker 12: In my career that I can work with people I
Speaker 12: like and respect. That's why I'm here with you.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you. I really appreciate it. That's very nice.
Speaker 5: So so that's that's so, that's what I do.
Speaker 12: And I I'm over here right now promoting this new movie,
Speaker 12: Penguin Lessons.
Speaker 8: Yes, so, and I know there's a good audience here.
Speaker 12: I'm not in some ways in the UK because I
Speaker 12: had this famous character. I'm kind of pigeonholed over here.
Speaker 12: I did some odd odd movies that kind of have
Speaker 12: followed a movie called Hamlet too that has some kind
Speaker 12: of cult following over the know.
Speaker 5: You did everything you ain't everything you did around the
Speaker 5: world in any days, Jackie Chang, you did you did?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm your premium on spot. You were
Speaker 5: in Tropic Thunder the other guys and other guys. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm Gid Flip Phillow. Philomena, Filomena was, Philamina was nominator.
Speaker 8: I got Yeah, I got an Oscar nomination. Yeah that's nice.
Speaker 8: I'm nice to win, but you know it didn't happen.
Speaker 5: But so you did a bunch. I mean you talk
Speaker 5: about this a lot in America about how you were
Speaker 5: doing You were kind of doing Alan Padridge, household name,
Speaker 5: and then you came to America and you were doing
Speaker 5: kind of not bit roles in American movies, but kind
Speaker 5: of smaller profile.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, pay me my air fare and put
Speaker 12: me in a nice hotel. And I mean I did
Speaker 12: like two days on The Joker and that was great
Speaker 12: because and.
Speaker 5: So I guess by asking for myself here is like
Speaker 5: it seems like you because I'm trying to build that.
Speaker 5: That's kind of what that's kind of where I'm going myself.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I'm doing twenty on the call.
Speaker 5: She grateful to do the role, have fun. But but
Speaker 5: you talk about doing these roles in America finding them
Speaker 5: a little bit unsatisfying, and that's what inspired you to
Speaker 5: write Well, I.
Speaker 12: Was, yeah, I mean I was doing a film called
Speaker 12: The Other Guys and Matt pharo very funny.
Speaker 3: Guys with Adam McKay.
Speaker 12: Adam Adam McKay, who is a is a great director,
Speaker 12: and I was I enjoyed it a lot, but you know,
Speaker 12: it was kind of like I like to be on
Speaker 12: the driving seat, and I wonder I was doing that.
Speaker 12: That's why I've discovered the story of this Irish woman
Speaker 12: whose child had been taken from her and sold to
Speaker 12: an American couple back in the nineteen fifties, and that
Speaker 12: was it.
Speaker 8: So I pursued that as a writer, which was drama.
Speaker 12: And before that I'd just done comedy and I didn't
Speaker 12: know if it work out, but wound up at the Oscars.
Speaker 12: So I thought, okay, well I'll do some more of
Speaker 12: this stuff. It seems to be it seems people seem to.
Speaker 5: Like it, right, But is that the strategy? I mean,
Speaker 5: would you so you would you say you need to
Speaker 5: do these kind of small roles in America to build
Speaker 5: enough politically.
Speaker 8: I just have it all.
Speaker 12: I have a career in the UK and I like
Speaker 12: to do a bit of comedy, a bit of a
Speaker 12: bit of drama, you know, like sometimes you don't get
Speaker 12: too serious because you can banish up your own ass.
Speaker 12: So it's important to have a laugh and just remember
Speaker 12: it's just that, don't don't get too full of yourself.
Speaker 12: So I like to do the bit of Yin Yang,
Speaker 12: you know, so make people laugh, make them cry, make
Speaker 12: them cry too much, they're not going to want to
Speaker 12: see you anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have forgot no, but you definitely played that
Speaker 5: Ying Yang almost burn anyone ever seen, because you got
Speaker 5: the comedy bona fides like legend comedy characters, and then
Speaker 5: you do dramatic roles, not just fil them. You know
Speaker 5: that you do like Jimmy Savil, you know which is
Speaker 5: more probably the.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I played a second offender as he was.
Speaker 12: I know it's a terrible thing, but you know it's
Speaker 12: it was a terrible story actually in the UK. But
Speaker 12: the worst thing about it was when I said I'm
Speaker 12: playing Jimmy Savil, the sex offender, people actually said you'd
Speaker 12: be perfect for that.
Speaker 8: Wait, wait a second.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you managed to do Ying Yang just I
Speaker 5: don't anyway, Just you know, heads off to you and
Speaker 5: every project you do, you know you you're talking about
Speaker 5: it with the other legend, Irish legend, Tommy turning on
Speaker 5: his show, you said you're looking for projects that are
Speaker 5: funny but have hot in it, And I feel like
Speaker 5: you've definitely been going that way. I mean, you did
Speaker 5: this move in twent nineteenth fort Greed, which was about
Speaker 5: a fashion mole goal and kind of there were political
Speaker 5: overtones in that about about kind of the wage gap.
Speaker 12: And yeah, I mean the thing is you makee people
Speaker 12: laughing about people think at the same time, and there's
Speaker 12: there's ways to do that. Also, I think, you know,
Speaker 12: a lot of comedy is about some some comedy can
Speaker 12: be about cruelty. I think it's always important to you.
Speaker 12: You can be smart and tough and you can be
Speaker 12: kind at the same time. You don't have to be
Speaker 12: a dick.
Speaker 5: I got it, write that down, Yeah, do do, I'll
Speaker 5: email it to you later. I didn't know you could
Speaker 5: do it with being a dick. I've been approaching this
Speaker 5: all wrong. Yeah, but you so, I mean, just going
Speaker 5: back to the politics. So my point is that you
Speaker 5: kind of try to do things that have not just
Speaker 5: be funny, but have a message.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Well, I think Look, it's like anything, when you have
Speaker 12: an argument with someone, you can bang heads and if
Speaker 12: you have a different point of view you can, you
Speaker 12: cannot end up resolving anything.
Speaker 8: And also, if you have those.
Speaker 12: Facts of statistics, they get twisted and people can present
Speaker 12: their alternative facts and all that stuff. But if you
Speaker 12: tell a story you make someone laugh, then you kind
Speaker 12: of show you people relax a little and you can
Speaker 12: talk about serious stuff as you do on this show
Speaker 12: in a funny way. Then people relax about it, and
Speaker 12: it takes the edge of it, and it stops people
Speaker 12: being scared. You know, we're living in scary times, and
Speaker 12: if you can laugh, you have that that gallows humor,
Speaker 12: then we can all get through it together.
Speaker 5: I think, right, right right.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 5: I have to expertly pivot to what you're promoting. All
Speaker 5: your publics is going to kill me. So no, but
Speaker 5: really I mean this, I I did have a plan,
Speaker 5: and this is where I wanted to get with all
Speaker 5: this is that you talk about political activism. So your
Speaker 5: latest movie is Penguin Lessons, Like, what is it about?
Speaker 5: And do you MND just saying what I mean?
Speaker 12: It's ostensibly look at it was film about it's a
Speaker 12: cute from about Penguin. I'm not really interested in doing
Speaker 12: a cute from about Penguin.
Speaker 5: I just think I told the penguin there.
Speaker 8: I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5: I told his agent there is a lie penguin in
Speaker 5: this thing.
Speaker 8: There's not. There's a few penguins in it.
Speaker 12: But to me, my buddy Buddy was writing at uh,
Speaker 12: Jeff Pope, who I've written a bunch of films before with,
Speaker 12: and he said, Hey, I might the film about penguin.
Speaker 8: Do you want to be in it? And I said no.
Speaker 12: I said, well, hang on, if I make the guy
Speaker 12: someone who doesn't like penguins and doesn't like animals and
Speaker 12: doesn't like children, doesn't really like people, then that gives them.
Speaker 8: Somewhere to go.
Speaker 12: And the penguin acts as a catalyst and set against
Speaker 12: the fascist regime, the military dictatorship that exists in Argentina
Speaker 12: from the late nineteen seventies. So there's a kind of dark,
Speaker 12: brooding backdrop to it, and.
Speaker 5: You need parallels to modern times.
Speaker 12: Well, I figured out everyone loves the penguins because they're cuddly,
Speaker 12: and fascism is very popular at the moment, so it's
Speaker 12: something for everybody.
Speaker 5: Right, fascism but Disney Disney fight.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like fascism meets Disney.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Which is Disney, which is this? Yeah, I had to
Speaker 5: I had to quickly calculation to see if our parent
Speaker 5: company was Disney. But it's not. It's our paramount'll find. Okay,
Speaker 5: So I think I did a show with anyway, the
Speaker 5: one they don't watch YouTube, So yeah, but I did.
Speaker 5: This is kind of just for me now because did
Speaker 5: you when when you Again, By the way.
Speaker 12: I just want to say about the penguins, because I'm
Speaker 12: not worried. No penguins were harmed in the making of
Speaker 12: this film, and we had a we had a We
Speaker 12: have a robot penguin the film as well as real ones,
Speaker 12: so if we asked the permits, we didn't ask the
Speaker 12: penguins to do anything difficult.
Speaker 5: There there's one scene where you throw the penguin back
Speaker 5: into the ocean.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's like that was that's there's a there's
Speaker 12: a fake one that I throw and then and then
Speaker 12: we cut it together.
Speaker 5: You guys say that for legal reasons.
Speaker 12: Yeah no, and also I've never thrown a penguin in
Speaker 12: my life, but I get canceled for throwing penguins.
Speaker 5: It's in the movie.
Speaker 8: It's in the movie. It's trickery.
Speaker 5: Okay, magic The Magic Movie is not real penguin, but
Speaker 5: we had.
Speaker 12: A robot penguin and we had a puppet penguin. Someone
Speaker 12: had their their hand of a fake penguin, so to speak,
Speaker 12: and uh and so so yeah, we sort of mixed
Speaker 12: the two together.
Speaker 5: And I just yeah, and when you're doing these scenes.
Speaker 5: I was watching it, and it's like, it's it's comedic,
Speaker 5: it's not. I wouldn't say you did. You're not obviously
Speaker 5: not doing a sketch when you're in this movie. So
Speaker 5: is it difficult to kind of like to dial it
Speaker 5: to where it's you know what I mean, where you're
Speaker 5: not doing a sketch.
Speaker 12: No, No, it's funny. It's not silly, it's not dumb funny.
Speaker 12: It's I play a guy who doesn't really like penguins
Speaker 12: and minds up adopting one by mistake and and ends
Speaker 12: up teaching these kids at school with it.
Speaker 5: And it's very touching and it's not goofy, it's not
Speaker 5: play goofy.
Speaker 12: And there's and like I said, there's there's a there's
Speaker 12: a little bit of fascism in that, because you know,
Speaker 12: we haven't we need more of that. Yeah, a little
Speaker 12: bit sprinkled in there, Yeah, a little sprinkling of fashion.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And I just feel like you're you're like this
Speaker 5: beloved character in the UK, both Steve Coogan and Alan Partridge.
Speaker 5: I think you you appeal your character Alan Partridge appeals
Speaker 5: to people on the left and the right in the UK.
Speaker 8: I would say that's true, that's true.
Speaker 5: And you're Steve Coogan yourself. You're very politically active. You're
Speaker 5: you're you're out there, you're campaigning. Yeah, publicly, I pick.
Speaker 8: I pick and choose my fights.
Speaker 12: If you if you bang on about what you think
Speaker 12: about stuff, after a while, people go, who cares what
Speaker 12: you think?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 5: So and it's like, the way I know right now,
Speaker 5: chans all what I think. I guess That's what I
Speaker 5: asked him. I was like, why you can't answer the
Speaker 5: question now? I feel like you never use chose to
Speaker 5: use Alan Partridge as a political overt political.
Speaker 8: Thing is you have more satirical You've.
Speaker 12: Got to if you're just trying to entertain your the
Speaker 12: people who already agree with you, you're never going to
Speaker 12: change anyone's opinion.
Speaker 8: They're going to challenge them. So you have to reach out.
Speaker 12: You have to put your arms around everybody and say, look,
Speaker 12: I don't agree with you, but come over here, let's
Speaker 12: have a laugh and maybe we can learn something. And
Speaker 12: so I do I do that with that that Alan
Speaker 12: Partri's character. And you know, sometimes I slip. I try
Speaker 12: to make people laugh. And if occasionally you can slip
Speaker 12: a secret message under the door while you're doing it,
Speaker 12: then that's great. And I do do that with the parties.
Speaker 12: But if you're just preaching to the converted, what's the point.
Speaker 5: Other than making money?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean, and I like to do that occasionally anyway,
Speaker 5: But I could talk to you forever. But I just
Speaker 5: want to say thank you so much, mister Steve Coogan,
Speaker 5: your legend. Thank you for calling me cool. Hi.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 11: You you increase my street credit, you pay, Thanks for
Speaker 11: entertaining everybody.
Speaker 5: Thanks for coming on this show. I real appreciate You're
Speaker 5: the best man, Bigger Steve Coogan, everybody depending lessons for
Speaker 5: the Why masnier it's.
Speaker 3: Mister Steve Corgan.
Speaker 13: Well, my pairtquakes right, we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 13: That's us over tonight now here.
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Speaker 5: Well, Morgan, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave all that to
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