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Speaker 3: You like.

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Speaker 4: Busting with the boys, Hanging with the fans.

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Speaker 1: In this episode three twenty five of Busting with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: will be there this weekend. It's exciting stuff. I think

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Speaker 1: there's some odds Campbell.

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Speaker 3: There are there are if you jump, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like look, I think it's it's a luck that cam

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Speaker 3: Ward's gonna go first over all the Tennessee Tides. Right

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Speaker 3: now on the Fandel Sports Book, he's minus twenty thousand,

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Speaker 3: he's at like he's sitting at like plus three thousand,

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Speaker 3: I believe, But it is ultimately a lock to go

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Speaker 3: cam Ward on the Fandel sportsbook. This is fun boys.

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Speaker 3: So let's just say, Shadar Sanders. You can get on

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Speaker 3: the app. You can project guys to go top ten,

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Speaker 3: York Giants sent with the number three overall pick. Abdul

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Speaker 3: Carter's on the app right now minus four to eighty

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Speaker 3: shout out the boy Chris he sent out in a

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Speaker 3: You can parlay those three together and you will get

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Speaker 1: And a bust with the boys. We like our parlays

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Speaker 3: We're gonna build, We're gonna bid, we' gonna build this spice.

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Speaker 1: We probably will bet all thirty two. Put that in

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Speaker 1: the Parliament's the soul of those draft night, Yes, because

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Speaker 3: Pick a back, all right, time to go to bed

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Speaker 3: and to go off that. Like, you can go each

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Speaker 1: That's a fun little game.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Shout out Chrissy for that parlay. Also, Chrissy had

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Speaker 1: some information in that email that he said that does

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Speaker 1: where would you rather like see ten minutes in the future.

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Speaker 1: All this stuff. It's like, that's where you.

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Speaker 3: Play the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you get your CEE ten minutes

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Speaker 1: in the future, could you imagine gambling? Could you imagine

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Speaker 1: then like you know you that's so raving yourself into

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Speaker 1: take this person next Baccarat jack player, banker. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: I put parlays. How'd your parlays do?

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Speaker 3: We can't say the guy can't say the guy you

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Speaker 3: But right now, you know, if you're watching this and

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Speaker 3: JJ Redick parlay. All my parlays lost.

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Speaker 1: All of them. I did a parlay Friday. I was like,

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Speaker 1: And then I took Houston and the Golden Knights, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I know who Steph Curry is. Let's get

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Speaker 1: him that Golden Knights, Golden I'm sorry, Golden Wars. I'm

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Speaker 1: a hockey right now, boys hockey. I'm all hockey right now, BA,

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Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, whatever, Steph Curry, he hits five threes.

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Speaker 1: I knew that was lockstock and two smoking barrels.

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Speaker 3: Well, we hit that in the last couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: He's fit three, well.

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Speaker 1: Should have washed. And then the Rockets they lose, and

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Speaker 1: then the the underhit and I bet the over, so one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three. If you think you know how it's all

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Speaker 1: Beautiful stuff.

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Speaker 3: I am excited for the draft though, Yeah, I am too.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be exciting. Like it's Mason Graham. You think

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Speaker 1: draft Tyler Booker, I don't think there's a better kid

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Speaker 3: Sorry, a free one thousand dollars bet to put this

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, rip that up a little bit. I could

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Speaker 3: You're talking about all the different three is the Giants? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Here we go, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Raiders are six.

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Speaker 1: Titans, Browns, Giants, Patriots, Jags, Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Who's that you build? The trends? Will Campbell out of

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Speaker 1: numb the number one tackle in this draft. Will Campbell,

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Speaker 3: Is more of a guard the arm length.

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Speaker 1: The arm length game. To me, it's the armlink game.

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Speaker 1: Is so ridiculous because I didn't have like overly long arms.

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Speaker 1: all about using the length you've got. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the person I looked up to the most was Jake Long.

437
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 1: Jake Long's career, I mean, he ended up getting a

438
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,760
Speaker 1: lot of injuries in the NFL, so it was very

439
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,600
Speaker 1: difficult for him to like show off how much talenty

440
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 1: actually had me. The guy was, he made three Pro

441
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 1: Bowls in a row in his first three years. He

442
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 1: is an insane talent that was only plagued by He's

443
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guy that was just injured a bunch.

444
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,639
Speaker 1: But we were much different play styles. Like I was

445
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 1: more bendy and probably a little more more athletic. He

446
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,440
Speaker 1: was strong and understood technique a little bit better. I

447
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 1: think if I was gonna spend time with a guy

448
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 1: and I would honestly want to ask you about that before.

449
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 1: Its probably Trent Williams, because we did. We were we

450
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: were like similar in a lot of ways of like

451
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520
Speaker 1: how we decided to play. He was much stronger, much

452
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 1: more powerful, but from a movement standpoint, very similar.

453
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Speaker 3: It's interesting too here and you talk about like technique

454
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,200
Speaker 3: and everything else, Like I feel like Ray would always

455
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 3: talk about the game so much like I was always

456
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,680
Speaker 3: gravitating towards a guy, so you'd see on film, like

457
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 3: on YouTube whatever it is, and kind of talking about

458
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,199
Speaker 3: the game with Ed Reid because I was just so interested,

459
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 3: like how do these motherfuckers like break the game down

460
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,120
Speaker 3: at such a level to where you know, you technique

461
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Speaker 3: and all that stuff's part of it. But I don't

462
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: think technique wise for a linebacker is as involved as

463
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Speaker 3: like say an offensive tackle.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like you guys are you guys are

465
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Speaker 1: seeing what the formation is, what the motion is, and

466
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Speaker 1: basically playing like process of a nation of what this

467
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: play could possibly be.

468
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Speaker 4: And it's reading and reacting.

469
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do a lot of red reacting post snap.

470
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Speaker 1: But like for me, I was always under the thought

471
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Speaker 1: process that if I if I lose, it's because I

472
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 1: did something wrong, not because they did something right. Like

473
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 1: people can have great rushes and do a bunch of

474
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 1: amazing things. But like if my feet are correct, if

475
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 1: my hands are corrected, my angles correct, I can't I

476
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 1: cannot lose. And so when I hear when I like

477
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, we had Luke Keiegley on

478
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Speaker 1: if you guys are watching for the first time, you

479
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Speaker 1: can go watch that incredible episode you guys listen to

480
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: you guys breakdown film. For me, it was just identifying,

481
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Speaker 1: you know, the coaches would give me hey when they're

482
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Speaker 1: in this formation, the safety is over this way, look

483
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Speaker 1: for this blitzep, what's whatever? So you knew when there

484
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: was like movement going on. But it was really just identifying,

485
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: what's this guy's fastball. And then now I'm evaluating to myself, Okay,

486
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: is his best against my best because I'll take my best,

487
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 1: but if it highlights one of my weaknesses, okay, I

488
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 1: need to now equalize the playing field of being like

489
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Speaker 1: I need to get him off his game. So if

490
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Speaker 1: it's a power guy, I was always concerned about power

491
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Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, I was fast and twitchy.

492
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Speaker 1: When it came to like just you know, sitting on

493
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Speaker 1: a bolt, that was my most difficult thing. So I

494
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 1: need to jump this guy and set up different angles.

495
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Speaker 1: So now mentally we're both playing this game of who's

496
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 1: confidence is higher in moments. So if I can jump

497
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: this guy a couple of times, set them differently, use

498
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: my hands differently, and winning those battles, I know mentally

499
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: his head's in a different spot than minus. Now my

500
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: confience is a little bit higher. So there was always

501
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: about finding that guy and seeing what he was best

502
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: at and taking that away first. And with the film stuff,

503
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,959
Speaker 1: it was like linebackers essentially handle things the same. If

504
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 1: they're fast, twitchy guys, they're going to try to up

505
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: and under you. They're big, powerful guys, Like fucking buckle

506
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: your chin strap and get ready to get hit under

507
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: the chin, keep your feet moving, and so I never

508
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: was like a student of the game that way. It

509
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: was always just like identifying the individual battles. Yeah, yeah,

510
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: but it's awesome to listen to you guys talk about it,

511
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: just talking about coverages and him like peeling off of

512
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 1: cover two and all that and listening the way you're

513
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: breaking down it. It's like it's such a part of

514
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: the game that maybe I didn't do as much, So

515
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: it's just fun to listen to.

516
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like as a back or too, like you're

517
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: always trying to identify, like how is the offense trying

518
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: to beat you? And like when Luke's in there talking

519
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 3: like which offensive lineman is going to be blocking you

520
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 3: because you've if you can, you want to have every

521
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: angle or be the fastest to the first step because

522
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: when you're going into the line of scrimmage, like you

523
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: guys are much bigger than us, so you're always trying

524
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 3: to like find those edges of when emotion's happening, when

525
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: a formation is going on, always trying to figure out,

526
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: like how an offense is trying to beat you so

527
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 3: you can have the faster first step and just listen

528
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 3: to Luke and even off Ray Lewis, Like I went

529
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: and spent time with London. Fletcher and London talked about

530
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 3: the game in such a way I remember when I

531
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: was a rookie in London had the keys to do

532
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: whatever you want, like if you wanted to check out

533
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Speaker 3: of at defense, similar to what Thomas Davis and Luke

534
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Speaker 3: Keickley were doing, Like havevn't the coaching staff have that

535
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 3: much confidence in you that you were seeing the game

536
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Speaker 3: good enough that it's like, hey, if he sees something,

537
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: he's checking something, let him do it. Like I was

538
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 3: always fascinated with, like how do you get there? Like

539
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: when I was in a cold tub and I'll be

540
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: asking London, like why you checking? Uh, why you checking

541
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: in a cover two? In these situations, but like trying

542
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: it's like always the game within the game and trying

543
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: to be one step ahead on how offense is trying

544
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: to beat you because they know what they're running and

545
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: you're just having to You're trying to put yourself in

546
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Speaker 3: the best precision position to like have the quickest first

547
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Speaker 3: step and beat them to a spot. Yeah, So I

548
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: always I always love that stuff, And I feel like

549
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: Ray always had a lot of things on YouTube to

550
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 3: at least would you would hear him talking about it.

551
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: So when Barrett would come in and talk about playing

552
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: the linebacker position and talking about breaking down film study

553
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: and everything else, I was just always so fascinated because

554
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: in the weight room, you're always gonna be trying to

555
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: chase those edges to get the one percent better, whether

556
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: in speed, jumping, quickness, body, your physicality like lish five pounds. Yeah,

557
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 3: but like what are the what are those little things

558
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: that can kind of give you a step up, like

559
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: when you're on the field to where you're kind of

560
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: anticipating everything versus just reacting to it.

561
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting. You ever see on like Instagram

562
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: when there's like someone did a drawing and they started

563
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: zooming out and then all of a sudden that drawings

564
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: instead of a cat's eye, and it's a kind of

565
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: a universe. It's like, yeah, insane, the amount of depth

566
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: and levels.

567
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

568
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: I was talking to my dad after the Easter party,

569
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Speaker 1: after the Want Easter Bash twenty twenty five just about

570
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Speaker 1: basically the conversation we're having now and how many different

571
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Speaker 1: levels there are. Like there's twenty two guys in the

572
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Speaker 1: field at one time, and if you sit there as

573
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Speaker 1: an offense, like I can understand the concept of what's

574
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: happening here. I know the backs track, I know relatively

575
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: if this is a longer route, shorter, intermedia, whatever whatever

576
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: it is, and then you go into a little bit Okay,

577
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: what's the offensive line doing here? And then you can

578
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: zoom in a little bit more about Okay, what's the

579
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: center's job here, and then the tackles, and you start

580
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: to realize all the little games of chess that are

581
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: happening while eleven guys are trying to do the same

582
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: thing to help each other. And that is why football

583
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: really is the best, because it is there's so many

584
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: levels to this ship. It's just crazy. It's it's awesomely

585
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: not even thinking about the defensive side, like everyone's also

586
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: doing their eleven things. You know, if this guy goes

587
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: inside and does this, you have to cover this gap.

588
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: It's just it's fucking awesome. And so like going into

589
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: these these schools and being able to do what we

590
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: were doing is just great. I mean, we talked about

591
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: it last week in Oregon.

592
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 3: But like yeah, yeah, and if you haven't watched that vlog, it's.

593
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Speaker 1: One of our favorites we've ever done that. Michigan was

594
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: great too. I think the only thing that gotten the

595
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: way with us with Michigan was their scheduling. They had

596
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Speaker 1: the spring game coming up, so these guys are kind

597
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: of like loaded on the back. Oregon was very much

598
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: Jake still in their process of like you know, implementing

599
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: like installation, doing the workouts, all that stuff. We got there,

600
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: what was it Tuesday last week?

601
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got there Tuesday.

602
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: The other Tuesday their spring game Saturday, so their last

603
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: like it was kind of their last real practice before

604
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: they split up into their Mazing Blue groups, and it

605
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: was just it was a little bit different. But the access.

606
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: I was impressed with the access because Oregon really opened

607
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: it up to where we walked away and I looked

608
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: at the boys. I was like, I don't know if

609
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: Michigan's gonna give us this, Like that was insane amount

610
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: of access. It was awesome. Lanning is an absolute homemade

611
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Speaker 1: But I mean even after practice at Michigan, like it's

612
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Speaker 1: you me ab off the boys Sean, We're all just

613
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: basically telling terrible stories about me the whole time. Top

614
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: five Top five isn't that crazy, bur It doesn't.

615
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Speaker 3: It doesn't like so top five, JP explained the.

616
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Speaker 2: Top top five. Dave Alof has been at Michigan for

617
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: how long.

618
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: Like twenty five plus years.

619
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Speaker 2: He's essentially the director of media relations, So anything that

620
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: goes down with Michigan, he's the guy that gets reached

621
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: out to and he has to handle it. So we

622
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: were asking him or I don't even know if we

623
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: ask Dave.

624
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: David a couple of times like made a couple like

625
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: comments like I thought I'd be done worrying about Taylor.

626
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: He keeps saying the gift that keeps on GI.

627
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would keep making those types of comments, which,

628
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: like you do you laugh at but I'm thinking to myself, like, bro,

629
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: I won I won that bad it was? You know,

630
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: there's a couple of instances and.

631
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: Those exchanges get us spark to ask Dave, like, so

632
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: where's Taylor?

633
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: So after practice problem, Joe all singing a circle and

634
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: it's like us plcorn, Searon Moore and Dave and I

635
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: don't know who was it you who asked the question?

636
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: I might have yeah, but I should say we'll ask

637
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: a question like how bad was Taylor? And then he goes,

638
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean you guys, I don't feel like talk about myself.

639
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: Like yeah, he says, I was saying.

640
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: We were up by Coach Moore's office when it came out. Maybe,

641
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: JP as like, where's Taylor rank?

642
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: Maybe? And basically Dave was like he's probably top five?

643
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, top five?

644
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: What what?

645
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: What? And then the very first there was already two

646
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: different versions of it where Taylor thought one thing happened

647
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: and they which one was. He was like, oh, Arizona,

648
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: the Arizona BWL, he's.

649
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: Where the bus left him.

650
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: Well do you remember this?

651
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: The bus did leave me? And I think he bet

652
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: the need of that.

653
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: No, well, he goes, well, do you remember how that

654
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: trip started?

655
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: I actually, you know what, it's crazy he brought that

656
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: up and I did not remember that. We can we

657
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: can talk about like that's all. That's all news, Like.

658
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was your brother's fault.

659
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: No, I still blame the kid. These dudes were twenty

660
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: nine years old. This is the old my eighteen year

661
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: old brother. So I came in and yeah, I hit

662
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: the kid. I did what people says I did my

663
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: senior year after the House State game, and.

664
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: They didn't hear about it.

665
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: They didn't hear about it. Obviously, me being dumb and

666
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: twenty one years old, I'm like, I'm not going to

667
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: tell them this happened. Yeah, and then we land in Arizona,

668
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: and I guess Dave Abloff's phone starts going off like

669
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: the headline, Yeah, the headlines tale of one hit this

670
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State fan after the House State game, which we

671
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: did lose forty two forty one. That was like the

672
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: most painful loss of all time.

673
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: He said, they sat you, they brought you, Taylor saying

674
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: he didn't.

675
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: Do I didn't.

676
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: I said my brother did it at first video on him. Yeah,

677
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: and I ended up telling the truth. Yeah, but they

678
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: did leave me after the Buffalo while they left me

679
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: after that. But some of the stories, man, and then

680
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: as we're sitting there in al Glick Fieldhouse and then

681
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: like story after story is happening, I'm having to explain

682
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: the story. I'm thinking to myself, goddamn, maybe I am

683
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: top five. Maybe I really was top.

684
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: By the story diabolical.

685
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: I love thebolicle.

686
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: I loved Blake's reaction to hearing all the stories because

687
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: he's like smiling and kind of just in awe of

688
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: like kind of like, how did the heck did.

689
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: You do this?

690
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: While yeah, yeah he said three times while y'all were

691
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: just talking like off the back. He's like top five.

692
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: I like that because you know, Blake was probably number

693
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: one easiest.

694
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

695
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: The freshman year dorms with Craig Row was probably is

696
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: the worst one.

697
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't get anyway, you.

698
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: Know, it's weirdest, like, I didn't think it was that bad.

699
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that bad that I'm telling

700
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: that story. I'm thinking, oh my.

701
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: God, I turned the camera off. Did you really? Yeah,

702
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: like we I we don't need to put this out

703
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: there for Taylor.

704
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: That is what great times though, that's hey high production,

705
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: production maintenance was there? I guess yeah, yeah, I made

706
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: the most.

707
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: Those were great. I also love Will and Blake Korham's rivalry.

708
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: That they have.

709
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: It's beautiful.

710
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: It's also like four zero Blake, So it really is, man,

711
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: it really is.

712
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: And you see it's on me. He's up on me

713
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: so high. I have to just walk by him on

714
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: the sideline shoulder him. I feel like that's a dub,

715
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, nothing dude.

716
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean you kind of didn't want

717
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: to do a one on one against him either.

718
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't that I didn't want to do a one

719
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: on one against Blake. It truly wasn't that. You heard

720
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: me talking about my back just a few minutes ago.

721
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Right, and I know you're feeling fine at this time,

722
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: but go ahead.

723
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling fine on the field. I was like, bro,

724
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: I'll have to do a full warm because we were

725
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: staying Like at Oregon, it was hey, the next morning,

726
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: you know, get the body right, I'm like ready to

727
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: go because it's early in practice. It's early enough in practice.

728
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: This one, we were there all day long, like we

729
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: fly out early in the morning, we're doing that workout,

730
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: which by the way, they they absolutely crushed us send

731
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: that workout. With my shoulders, I felt like I had

732
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: a chess cold after the time for going to tear.

733
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: And then we're standing at practice all day long, like

734
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: we were out there on the field for what three

735
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: four hours?

736
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah before it's like hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like.

737
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: Think about the pre practice, I like an hour before

738
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: practice started, right, and so it's just you feel the

739
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: swelling coming on. Like I would have had to do

740
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: an entire like program just to get ready for this

741
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: one on one.

742
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: But but the practice was two hours. An hour in.

743
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: I did come up to you and I was like, hey,

744
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: we should get ready for you to do the thing.

745
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: There's about thirty or forty minutes. But when had your

746
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: home what was going on? Though they were playing, they

747
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: were doing the move the ball situation. I did want

748
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: to see Bryce Underwood like play Yeah, like he was

749
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: going out there and he looked insane. Yeah he was.

750
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: And then you guys are you guys talking about Nebraska

751
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: and they're talking he was moving the balls five for five, Like, yeah,

752
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: he was moving the ball, getting the ball out so fast.

753
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: And I'm like, he does look nice and a little nervous.

754
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: And then he throws his pick to shut out Nico.

755
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: He throws a pick to the safety. Then right when

756
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: he throws a pick, right after they were talking, Hey,

757
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: you guys are saying something about the Yeah, it's just

758
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: perfect time. Yeah, but he was.

759
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: He was lighting it up. And there was a couple

760
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: of times he had like a like a zone read

761
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: type of situation. He should have pulled it because and

762
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: crashed inside and you see him like kind of doing

763
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: the chest thing. We were basically doing the same thing

764
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: that Bryce under. What is we did at the Colorado

765
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Nebraska game with Dylan Royola, like helping up his offensive lineman. Yeah,

766
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: he's doing the thing. He's taking a knee in the huddle,

767
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: he's looking around while you just see this guy. This

768
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: guy's confidence is insane. And then he as the status

769
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: and everyone's like this kid struggles in the spring game

770
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: It's like, dude.

771
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: I did see I did see that. Like you know,

772
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I guess game game reps are a little bit different

773
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: than practice.

774
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Spring game bro, Like they probably just like, hey, go

775
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: there he threw another peak. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, eighty

776
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: eight yards. There was a Instagram post I don't know

777
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: which one. It was one of the football college football ones.

778
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, number one overall recruit struggles in

779
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: spring game? Is Michigan gonna have more quarterback woes this

780
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: upcoming season? Most light comment was Bryce Underwoods and it's

781
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: just a bunch of cry laughy faces like that, And

782
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm in a parking lot of target

783
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: just like this motherfucker's got the confidence.

784
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: Articles got a.

785
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: Point, y'all do y'all should clear y'all should clear the

786
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: air though, because Bryce was getting a lot of hate

787
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: for the photo we put up.

788
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: What was that was crazy?

789
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: What was your first reactions when you saw him?

790
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 3: Special?

791
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, specimen, Oh that's he looks like a leaner Cam

792
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: Newton like he is, I mean, Cam was.

793
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: People are talking about his gut that it's the most

794
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: it's one of the more athletic looking guts that you

795
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: will find like, the Internet's reaction to this photo was

796
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: blowing my mind because I'm like, and people are really

797
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: seeing it that way? Yeah, because he is he's all

798
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: of sixty six. I don't know how much he weighs,

799
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: but the dude, he's seventeen years old, seventeen and seeing him,

800
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: I know it's a very small thing, but seeing him

801
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: one hand those one hand those footballs, bro, I mean,

802
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: dudes are chucking at like thirty yards and he's just

803
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: snatching the wide receiver.

804
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: The ball was coming to unions. I don't worry about that.

805
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm filming and the ball is like coming in

806
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: kind of hot. He's like, don't even worry about it.

807
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I'm gonna worry about it. Yeah,

808
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: and I like, get out the way he just plucks

809
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: it out of the air. Looks it he lost Chris Bryant.

810
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Chris was just like walking towards us back to the ball.

811
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: And this is like in the far left of my

812
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: camera frame where I was filming somebody else and this

813
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: is just going on on the side and Bryce jumps up,

814
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: reaches over with his right hand, comes back over one hand.

815
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, dude, this guy I'll tell you what

816
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Man, if he's a baller on Saturday's, like

817
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: the offense will be extremely fun to watch.

818
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: You'll say this, If he's not on Saturdays, it's not

819
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: because of him, it's because of whatever scheme they have

820
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: around him. Because he's athletic enough. You have got to

821
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: be able to move the ball.

822
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: That is.

823
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: That's a that's a fantastic point because college football, that

824
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: amount of athleticism you can Johnny Manziel right, I mean.

825
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: Away at Auburn, I was they were always winning like

826
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: ten games. Guy could not throw the ball to save

827
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: his life. But that offense was schemed up so well

828
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: around him. Yeah, and it's like Bryce is a lot

829
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: better than Nick Martin.

830
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: What really impresses me about this kid he is? I mean,

831
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: he was the first guy out there. He was the

832
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: first guy taking snaps, throwing the ball. He was working

833
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before practice even started. His dad's at practice,

834
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: his first off. The dad, him and his sister all

835
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: they look the exact same. They looked the exact same.

836
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm like talking to the dad and the sisters like

837
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: fake dribbling in the back, like dunking on her dad

838
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: the whole time. But I'm like, hey, like you know,

839
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about his work ethic and he's like, we

840
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: brought up the money, and his dad's like he has

841
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: always said he wants to afford opportunity to work, and

842
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: he's like the money is just more of an opportunity

843
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: to get work. And he's like, last night he was

844
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: at this one place with a private quarterback coach from

845
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: eleven to one. He woke up at seven, did X.

846
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: Y and Z. He's like just coaching staff talks about

847
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: him being in the film room for hours.

848
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: And towers and so sounds like this kid's it sounds

849
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: as even as a Michigan fan, it sounds too good

850
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: to be true, Like what's.

851
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: This this kid?

852
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: They're saying all the right things, he's doing all the

853
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: right stuff, and it's just like, hell can he do?

854
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to come see us in Lincoln.

855
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all saw you there, Well, we'll see.

856
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 5: He gifted his high school like coo yes, or like

857
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 5: a brand new car, which I mean, if you're a

858
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: seventeen year old, gift in like your security guard from

859
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 5: your high school car.

860
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Kids got a good head on his shoulders.

861
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: And they were saying he was in the facility too,

862
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 5: like three am the day before and then came back

863
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: to three Yeah, and then then came back at seven am.

864
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: So when we were doing when we were doing the

865
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: crossbar challenge, he's like, we were talking about the workout,

866
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: we were doing harm kind of hert and he's like, yeah,

867
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: I got mine at five am. I'm thinking, all right,

868
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: it's a weird flag like to say on us, But yeah,

869
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: that's impressive, Jack. How did that make you feel seeing

870
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: somebody get gifted a truck?

871
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 6: This feels nasty now, I mean, yeah, it's cool.

872
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Speaker 1: Nico, Nico found a home.

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Speaker 3: You happy for him?

888
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: Who?

889
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: You see that video that Tennessee fan walking in Trick

890
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: fil A and he's like, no Polynesian sauce. That is

891
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: funny as hell.

892
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: Dude.

893
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's back. I mean, he's back home. He's back

894
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 6: in California. I mean, it's the comical at least.

895
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: To say that he goes from a state with zero

896
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: state income tax to the state with potentially the highest

897
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 5: state income tax, making less money, going to a college

898
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 5: with less talent, way worse offense.

899
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: But good luck, good luck. I know, fired the boy

900
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: up right there, fired him up.

901
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: He is in the Big ten. We got to see

902
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: him this year. Could say, no matter what, he is

903
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: a hell of a player, hell of a player. But

904
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean this next movie makes it's all ball from

905
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: this point on, He's got to right some wrongs. And

906
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: not that it wasn't all ball. I'm just the magnifying

907
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 3: glass that will now beyond him since he this situation

908
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: is kind of going to be the example of college

909
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: football when he does be come draft eligible, like this

910
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: will be something that's peeled apart and picked apart. So

911
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: wherever he is now or being at U c. L A,

912
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: now you hope that it's all it's all ball from

913
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: this point on because he's got to know that that

914
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: magnifying glass is gonna be.

915
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's gonna be all eyes on him. But yeah,

916
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 5: it'll be exciting to watch, especially those first few games.

917
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: Tennessee fans are going to be tuned in.

918
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: What's Tennessee gonna do a quarterback? We're so fairing out.

919
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 6: We got two guys right now on the roster.

920
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: No one's been contacted as of right now for anyone

921
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: coming in, but we'll see.

922
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 6: It's scary.

923
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's yeah, because I mean he is like Nico.

924
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks apart, He looks apart, and he looks.

925
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't think such ap I know you got

926
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: I got, I know you got your cat out of

927
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: South Carolina. But you see Nico, like he can throw

928
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: the ball around, when he puts his foot in the ground,

929
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: he can run so I saw U c l A,

930
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: like I've had all the takes on NCO and then

931
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh, yeah, we got to play u c

932
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: l A this year.

933
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: And there's a home game. It's different playing in Lincoln, Man, Lincoln,

934
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: do we really?

935
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: I thought we go to u c l A. U

936
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: c l A beat US at when we were in

937
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: Memorial last year. Yeah, usc USC will be at home.

938
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: We need that home crowd. Yeah, Like U c l

939
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: A got better getting Nico on board. Yeah, we'll figure

940
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, yeah, we'll figure it out. Yeah.

941
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: He used to be all right Yeahola.

942
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah we got a squad. We don't got just Riola,

943
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: Like we got a squad. Conch rule coach. You know,

944
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: I was watching the local presser last week. He's like

945
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: he's been waiting for a team like this. Oh yeah

946
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: yeah he got me right. It got me hype.

947
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Saturday, we'll be there. Do you have any idea what

948
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: to expect from the spring game because it's not really

949
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: a spring game?

950
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: No? No, So I think they've pivoted a little bit

951
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: now that the n C double A has put in

952
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: that new rule. If you can only carry like one

953
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: O five on the roster, he'll be doing something and

954
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: Michigan was kind of doing it too, but to where

955
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: a lot of those guys will be bubble guys are

956
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: trying to like earn their way into training camp, so

957
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: they will be having like a scrimmage for like guys

958
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: to show talent and have film to send out everywhere

959
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: else because they're, you know, they're cutting down to the

960
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: one oh five, so guys are gonna have to like

961
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: make rosters. So he's kind of treating it like they

962
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: only have three in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, four third

963
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: preseason game. Yeah, Yeah, but no, I don't know what

964
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: to expect. I'm sure they'll have elements of both to

965
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: where they'll have a scrimmage, but I have no.

966
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: Clue what to expect Team captain.

967
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even this, I don't even know if that's

968
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: going down anymore, just because they they kind of pivoted

969
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: early last year.

970
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're changing it.

971
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're changing the layout a little bit.

972
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: Haw Boys is gonna be a fun time in Lincoln

973
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: Stars versus the Legends. Well, it sounds like they're not

974
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: doing that, or they might not be.

975
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: Just what they were doing now, they were gonna do something,

976
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: and I don't even know what was gonna take place

977
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: with the Stars versus Legends thing. But just off last week,

978
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 3: like I haven't had much communication with Nebraska on what

979
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: exactly is going down this weekend.

980
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: What year is that right there?

981
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: Freshman year in the background.

982
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see him giving you a little flowers too.

983
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah come on now, Yeah, that's nice.

984
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: Played a crucial role in get Neck out of Tennis

985
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: out of Tennessee to Nebraska. It was, you know, he

986
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: just happened to be at Tennessee.

987
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 5: Disgusting, especially person that you have influence in this college

988
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 5: football world like that, because that's cool.

989
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 6: Is a hell of a special teams coach.

990
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: Another thing from spring tour that I've noticed is how

991
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: important special teams coaches are, like the enthusiasm that needs

992
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: to be in the room to keep guys involved in

993
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: what's going on. Because we sat in a couple of

994
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: rooms and it was like, I've never really been in

995
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: special teams meetings.

996
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I leading over.

997
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: To Will at one point about this ship is fucking boring.

998
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 3: Like yeah, you run down?

999
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yet you run down, you got a lane,

1000
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: like stay in that lane?

1001
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, take it. We've only been to a couple

1002
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: of schools people can figure out.

1003
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: No, no, but there's no an ex enthusiasm that he has.

1004
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure his his rooms are the entire time a recruiter. Yeah.

1005
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: I wasn't taken away from that. Yeah, I could see

1006
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: how that was bad. Listen, I was bored because this

1007
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: ship just seemed like he just run down the field.

1008
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's it's like there's more. It's more

1009
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: drill essential stuff than it is like ext on special time.

1010
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: I feel like it's such an unutilized part of the game.

1011
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: Just part of the game matters.

1012
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it matters a lot. Yeah, but the third or

1013
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: third or third thing is a little crazy.

1014
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. Uh, it is cool though. I saw

1015
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: that interview that Act did and I that is I

1016
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: was his very first recruit, which is awesome. Yeah, he

1017
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: would like give me an envelope and I'll be I

1018
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: thinking in my head like, oh, snow was about to happen.

1019
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 3: I'd open it up and it'd be like a stick

1020
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: of gum with another that said, there's more where that

1021
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: came from.

1022
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: That's what told you.

1023
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is funny.

1024
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, exce the man, though, it seems like.

1025
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fun Week. Anytime you go

1026
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: to Nebraska, man, they treat you right, treat you right

1027
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: out there. Are you guys still Adidas?

1028
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: I think so?

1029
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1030
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Thedas has been up and up though. JP knows

1031
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. Best shoes in the game. He

1032
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: won't have to trade his shoes out there. He's gonna

1033
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: be leveling up out there.

1034
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: What else we got boys?

1035
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1036
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: Tians taking cam Ward?

1037
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: NBA?

1038
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: What?

1039
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 7: What?

1040
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: What guy in the draft? Do you think we'll have

1041
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: the best NFL career in the early prediction for it

1042
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: cam Ward?

1043
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. Tyler Booker, Yeah,

1044
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: it's it's tough because it's like, like book we got

1045
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: to be around him, so you kind of know his

1046
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: mental you kind of know his approach of the game

1047
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: and not just the game but off the field, and

1048
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: we know it's it's like guys like that who are

1049
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: gonna last last the longest?

1050
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and he understands like the fans.

1051
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see Tyler Warren in the NFL. I

1052
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be.

1053
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: At Penn State.

1054
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1055
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: He seems like he can't do it all.

1056
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can. You got a there's you guys got

1057
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: a cat on a Michigan right Love Cortland.

1058
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Colson Loveland. Yeah, he is a stud. That's

1059
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: a guy good. His draft stock probably fell a little

1060
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: bit because the quarterback play was below par last year.

1061
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: We actually had quarterback turned off. We just handed the

1062
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: ball for twelve games. But he's a cat that can

1063
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: he can block, he can run routes, he's he's a

1064
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: guy that he's a matchup nightmare. Yeah, my workout for

1065
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: him in the long run, for sure.

1066
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch Travis Hunter's career. Yeah, dude, that'd

1067
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: be interesting.

1068
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: This was the first weekend I saw like the Travis

1069
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: Hunter effect on the youth. There was this kid. We

1070
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: were at this little easter thing on Sunday and he

1071
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: put on his Travis Hunter jersey and they're playing football

1072
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: in the backyard and he was switching between offense and

1073
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: defense and he would line up and he would go

1074
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: offense mode and then he would switch back and he

1075
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: would go defense mode and do his thing. So I'm

1076
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: like that that's pretty cool because for us, it's like, yeah,

1077
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: we were growing up. It's only like, oh, I'm Randy

1078
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: Moss or yeah, whoever, when now they can just beat

1079
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter everywhere.

1080
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: And he is trying to play both positions at the

1081
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: next level, right, I think I don't want to miss quote,

1082
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: but I think he said he won't play football if

1083
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: you can't play both ways. Yeah, which is wild.

1084
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see it twenty game. I mean, it

1085
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: hasn't been done. Like in my brain, I don't see

1086
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: how it works out. Like, just imagine the week you

1087
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: have invested in one position at the next level and

1088
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: think of yourself, you know, both sides of the ball. Yeah.

1089
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Speaker 1: Could you imagine being in the NFL and stepping off

1090
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: the sideline and then not stepping back on the sideline.

1091
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: Your bank is just special teams.

1092
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, punts on, I'll get off for one play.

1093
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: You get this water real quick.

1094
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: I wonder if, like, because Cam Newton was breaking it

1095
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: down on Cam Newton was breaking it down on his pott.

1096
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: He's like, imagine if you're like you're you're on the

1097
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: Dolphins and in practice it's like you're covering Tyreek Hill

1098
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: and then the next period you're stepping to the other

1099
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: side and Jalen Ramsey's covering you. Yeah, in the physicality

1100
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: at the next level, just all of it, the mental,

1101
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: the physical, everything interesting. I'm questioning is his gas tank?

1102
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: I'm more so just questioning, like it will be insane

1103
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: if he gets that done. Yeah, I can imagine, Bro,

1104
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: I know it's crazy.

1105
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: I think to myself, like what about when he gets older, Like, well, no,

1106
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: will he was not going to one and just staying

1107
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: with one position the whole time because there's more longevity

1108
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: in that. Yeah, you got to think four years from now,

1109
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: there's twenty snaps a game.

1110
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: That it can't be for the organization. You got to

1111
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: be fired up, like using it out in his rookie deal. Yeah,

1112
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: but longevity purposes, Like for the individual, it's almost like

1113
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: I don't see how that's sustainable.

1114
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: But imagine he plays ten years.

1115
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: Do you think you that we would ever see? Because

1116
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: as the quarterbacks get more and more athletic, a quarterback,

1117
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: my dream scenario will be a quarterback playing both ways

1118
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: in the NFL, like quarterback playing quarterback and safety nor no, Bro,

1119
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: never it's already halfened Taysom Hill.

1120
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 3: There's too much involved in like the quarterback position, like

1121
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: if you get should or not Sul Travis, I would

1122
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: see him being predominantly like a corner and then in

1123
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: the situation where he just has packages on offense, yeah,

1124
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: but more Charles Yeah yeah, but obviously like more invested

1125
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: on the offensive side, but you more so just have

1126
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: packages and his main focus will probably be cornerback. You

1127
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: can't because there's no way. There's just I mean, who knows,

1128
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: though I'm not trying to sell him short, but I'm

1129
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: just thinking, like, there's no way, like.

1130
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: The our brains cannot comprehend, yeah, being in it for

1131
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: this many that many years and just being like imagining

1132
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: how tired you are after camp and then being like wartime,

1133
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: look at that guy, he just played everywhere.

1134
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he is able to like actually play both ways.

1135
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 8: Do you think he's gonna demand an absurd amount of

1136
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 8: money because hey, I'm a lockdown corner and I'm also

1137
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 8: wide receiver number.

1138
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: But if he's a lockdown corner and a wide receiver one,

1139
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: he should get a billion dollar contract.

1140
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Quarterback.

1141
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1142
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Higher than.

1143
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Yes, on track, you just got to hope, like he

1144
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: can keep it up for four years until he gets

1145
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: a new contract. It's like, yeah, Travis Hunter signs one

1146
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: billion dollar deal and then I mean that would be

1147
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: mind blowing. Yeah, yeah, five hundred million games.

1148
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 8: And different clauses and everything. And if you get hurt

1149
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 8: playing this playing defense, you're only making this much. Or

1150
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 8: if you get hurt playing offense, you're only gonna make

1151
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 8: this munch contrac That contract would be like so interesting

1152
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 8: to read.

1153
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: Crazy man, he created a different market.

1154
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: I hope he does it. I would love I would

1155
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: love to witness that a dude that plays in the

1156
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: NFL at the highest possible level you can play and

1157
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: plays both ways in his dominant.

1158
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: Like first three games a rat technically, could he be

1159
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: a Would he be like a two time Pro Bowl

1160
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 2: selection in one year?

1161
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 3: Could be? Yeah, it would be so sick.

1162
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just double everyone's numbers.

1163
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 7: That would be insane.

1164
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Plays plays eight years, is a sixteen time Pro bowler,

1165
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: sixteen time All Pro.

1166
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see too, like, uh, this class performing

1167
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: the league because everybody's kind of like shitting on it

1168
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: being one of the weaker class classes. Yeah, yeah, so

1169
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: I'm kind of hopeful that you know, they have like

1170
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: a good a good selection of guys that just conquers

1171
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: the league. And how he does he saw his letter.

1172
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: His letter, that was awesome. That was awesome, I pray

1173
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: to God cam Ward is the guy for the Titans

1174
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years.

1175
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 3: How do you feel? What do you think?

1176
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he he's got the talent. He put up,

1177
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: he put up records. He can he can move through

1178
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: the pocket, he can make every single throw, he can

1179
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: extend plays like. He's got the capability.

1180
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: I know. I hope it works out for the for

1181
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 3: the Titans organization.

1182
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it does.

1183
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: Crazy. I just hope he has a mark A Marcus

1184
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: Mariota situation. Three tuddies in the first half.

1185
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: The Nash will be set on fire. That first game,

1186
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: I thought we were winning the Super Bowl that year.

1187
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 4: I was like, what's over?

1188
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: I get Yeah, it was No.

1189
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: One's number one pick, first, number two pick.

1190
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: A number two pick dismantled, number one murdered. It was crazy.

1191
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 7: Speaking of Marcus, Yeah, this this episode is this is

1192
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 7: everything Mount busmore for me personally, I feel like it's

1193
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 7: a Mount busmore.

1194
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: It is and you could I wish. The only thing

1195
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: I wish about this podcast is that it was two

1196
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: hours longer.

1197
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he talked for days.

1198
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: You can't and he was we talked about I think

1199
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: it was in the vlog, but If we would have

1200
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: got Marcus a couple of years ago, the podcast wouldn't

1201
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: have been as good. He was so open and vulnerable

1202
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: about all the trials and tribulations, the ups, the downs.

1203
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: And a couple of years ago, just no one talking

1204
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: to him in this interview, like where his head was at. Yeah,

1205
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: this podcast is all time, man. God, it's one of

1206
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: my favorites.

1207
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: There's not the Yeah. I love him, I love him.

1208
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been trying to get him for his wife though.

1209
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: I tell you what in the future.

1210
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: His wife is.

1211
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the tell all when it's over. Yeah,

1212
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: when he's done in what eleven more years, wants to

1213
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: play twenty years in the NFL. Yeah, dude, win up

1214
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: this episode of Bring You True Classic Boys. The shirt

1215
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Speaker 1: I'm wearing right now, you might think, Yo, Louis looks

1216
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Speaker 1: kind of tight right now. We're really see them boys

1217
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Speaker 1: look nice today. Well, the reason why is because we're

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00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: wearing True Classic and I know, listen, they messed up

1219
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Speaker 1: in a big way because they decided that they're going

1220
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Speaker 1: be buying True Classic, not only is the fabric incredible.

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Speaker 1: It grabs his shoulders and the chest just right. It's

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Speaker 1: they did come out with the XLS. They're also extremely affordable.

1226
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: I love this brand. It's a little warm right now,

1227
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Speaker 1: so I got the shorts on, but usually I'm rocking

1228
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: those black pants. Them boys are in another sneaker.

1229
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Speaker 3: Too easy to pack like. You just have the blank,

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00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,440
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1232
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: I wear this, should I wear that? Yeah, you just

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00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: get true class.

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Speaker 1: One thing I noticed in my life is anytime I'm

1235
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: around people that think they have money, it's the you know,

1236
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: the gaudy brands, the big bowld they got the cscrylic

1237
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: painting on top of them, and they got the watches

1238
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Anytime I'm around a gentleman who

1239
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: you know his bank account looks like a phone number,

1240
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: it's a classic, plain looking tea. He's not there to

1241
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: impress anybody because he's already inside knows I'm successful as fuck.

1242
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: I can do this, And that's another reason to wear

1243
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: true classic tea. Do me a favor, Go find yourself

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Speaker 1: in Women's Line are launching later this year. Look good,

1247
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Speaker 1: play good boys. Let's feel good out there too. Let's

1248
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: get back to this episode.

1249
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: Should we hit shout out nofree shot on jump into it?

1250
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: By the way, I just saw on Netflix's background this Wednesday.

1251
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah tomorrow, Yes.

1252
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: Battle thank you? Yes, we always the last couple of

1253
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: weeks you've been talking about we talking about it. I

1254
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: I want to say, I have no ideas host are

1255
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 1: we doing? How's everybody doing? This is battle camp?

1256
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 4: Dude.

1257
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: This was such a fun experience, and so like this

1258
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: time last year, I was just getting back from filming

1259
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: this in Mexico, and I had no idea what to expect.

1260
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: I had no idea, I had no idea what I

1261
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: was doing the entire time. It was so much fun

1262
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: to process. Like my agent calling me and being like, hey,

1263
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: this company wants you to host a show, but you're

1264
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: probably too busy for it. I'm like, well, what's the company?

1265
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: They're like Netflix. I'm like, we should we should probably

1266
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: take that fucking call. So I take the call with

1267
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: these people, and then I make a joke about not

1268
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: being able to read good and they like kind of

1269
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: sent him in a blender a little bit. So, hey,

1270
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: we got to make sure Taylor can do a script.

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00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: What was it like basically the tryouts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

1272
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was you were I was nervous, So I

1273
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: went I memorized the entire script and I did it

1274
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: for him and told me I had it, and they

1275
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: sent a host coach shout out Alita to my house

1276
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: for three days, and we stood outside of my backyard

1277
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: upon and she's like, all right, this is out. It's

1278
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: gonna go. This's gonna happen. When you're going you're talking,

1279
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: they'll just stop you and they'll move cameras and all

1280
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: of sudden. So she was so great, like kind of

1281
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: teaching me what was going to happen in the process.

1282
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: And then I go down there. She's with me for

1283
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: like two days or I could I think a day

1284
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: and a half, and then she flew back to California

1285
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: where she lives, and I remember just being alone. Like

1286
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: four hundred people on set. Two hundred were straight out

1287
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: of Mexico. The other two hundred were, you know, besides

1288
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: the contestants of me, like all from like London, all

1289
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: from Europe, and it's like me and like two other

1290
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: Americans the whole the whole time, it was like it's

1291
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: such a culture shock everything, but it was so much

1292
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: fun to do. I had a blast. Like these people,

1293
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go me into it.

1294
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: So explain what battle Camp is too.

1295
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: So battle Camp is there's three teams and they're gonna

1296
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: do this challenge. It's gonna be intense, Like there's like

1297
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: these massive walls that they got to do this different

1298
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: stuff on. There's some simpler ones, but these insane challenges.

1299
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Speaker 1: Whichever team wins is immune from being eliminated. Then the

1300
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: other two teams, whoever got third place, their name goes

1301
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Speaker 1: on this wheel. The first team will then pick three

1302
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: people from the other two teams to do punishments. Those

1303
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: punishments could be like cold tough stuff, it could be

1304
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: eating crazy things like it could be how many steps

1305
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: you can do in an hour. Whoever does the best

1306
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: is good. The other two they go on the wheel,

1307
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: and then there's a camp wide vote to fill up

1308
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: the other twelve slots. They vote on who they want

1309
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: to go, and at night we do a wheel ceremony.

1310
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: I spin the wheel, someone goes home, and all these

1311
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: guys are competing shoe whoever the wheel lands on, whoever

1312
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: it lands on. So there could be somebody with seven

1313
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: their name on the wheel seven times and a person

1314
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: on the wheel one time, and if it lands on them,

1315
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: they're out of there. So it's a game of like popularity,

1316
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: athleticism and chance, dude, and it is. It was cool.

1317
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: It was interesting too, like being a part of this

1318
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: because you're just in a football world your whole entire life.

1319
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: Now you're being thrust it into like this reality TV

1320
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: pop culture and so you do not know what to expect.

1321
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: I will say this cast was awesome, Like they were

1322
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: great to be around. There were so many moments where

1323
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: were re arranging cameras and they're like it's kind of

1324
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: just me staring at them, and eventually I'm like, let

1325
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: me just talk to these people, you know, And so

1326
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: like they were all awesome. This dude, Tony, who you

1327
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: will see on the show.

1328
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: He is.

1329
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: Hilarious. And this guy right here I would make fun

1330
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: of him all the time, but he was one of

1331
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: those guys you can kind of like punch on a

1332
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: little bit.

1333
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: And he was.

1334
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: He was great, but he kept coming on. He was

1335
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: so curious about like the football world and all that.

1336
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I played and I was like,

1337
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's like high school. He got stiff hips

1338
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: and we were just going back and forth. This kid

1339
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: was great. He was awesome.

1340
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: But the show.

1341
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun doing it. I hope

1342
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: everybody enjoys it because it comes out comes out tomorrow.

1343
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 5: For a watch crew that's going to be in Green

1344
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 5: Bay on Wednesday. I think we got to do a

1345
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 5: watch party first episode.

1346
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will be together.

1347
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: Yoah, wait, we're going Wednesday. Yeah, I think we're going

1348
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: Thursday morning, Wednesday evening.

1349
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: No, no, it's Wednesday early afternoon. Yeah, after your Wednesday.

1350
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: I can already see one. One thing from seeing the trailer. Yeah,

1351
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 3: you should have had the fade. Boy, you should have

1352
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 3: the fade. You're clean with the fade.

1353
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that, and I do think the fade.

1354
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: I will say it looks better than I thought it would.

1355
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: It looks better than I thought it would. However, the

1356
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: maintenance it takes to keep a fade. For that reason,

1357
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm out.

1358
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1359
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1360
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: Three haircuts a year, four hair cuts a year type

1361
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: of guy I like to let grow out and eventually

1362
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: look at the miror and be like, I got to

1363
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: take care of this, So I go and take care

1364
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: of it. I like a little more, a little more

1365
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: of a grungelo ye.

1366
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: Big win for the bus. We've been trying to get

1367
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: Taylor to get this fade shout out.

1368
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Promises made promises, cat brother, we got it done.

1369
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: Let's go. You know, hey, he'll he'll, he'll keep the

1370
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: fade going. He'll keep the yeah because you know, boy,

1371
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: he likes to look good. He likes to look good like.

1372
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: Once it girls that, he'll get fade again.

1373
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: It likes to look good like likes to look good.

1374
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: This sure do, little editor that looks solid. Man, shout out,

1375
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: No for shout out, shout out for shout out.

1376
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: I have a shout out and it's going to be too.

1377
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 3: Charcuterie boards at the Luwan Easter Bash twenty twenty five. Look,

1378
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm a man who I don't like to socialized a

1379
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: whole lot. I love to sit by a charcuterie.

1380
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: Board, which, by the way, is just such a lie.

1381
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 3: Well, I know, once you get in the groups, but

1382
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: once you're there feeling it out like I'm somebody who'll

1383
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: just gravitate more towards the eating table and then kind

1384
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: of you kind of pick your shots. You kind of like, yeah,

1385
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: you find You're hoping you find your people there and

1386
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: so and so showed up yet, and then if new

1387
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: ones are coming over, you're kind of like, man, hopefully

1388
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: this doesn't last too long, but I like to find

1389
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: myself by the by the eating table and shout out Jason,

1390
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: but your shark. That whole table set up was as

1391
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: good as I've ever seen, as good as I've ever seen.

1392
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: And we got a photo up right now. But picture

1393
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: like little motes and crevices going throughout the board, and

1394
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: those little moats and crevices are like cheese and chocolates,

1395
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: different variations of chocolates. It was you as your tuna

1396
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: salad sandwiches to where the bread is kind of soft

1397
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: and smashed into the tuna salad, the what's the what's

1398
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: like the yellow orange cheese, pimento pimento cheese, the little

1399
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: pimento cheese bites, shit, bro the cups that you had

1400
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: with the salami and the cheeses and the olives, like

1401
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: it was incredible. It was incredible.

1402
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: It is amazing. Jason made lawan Easter Bash twenty twenty five.

1403
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a would be?

1404
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: It was awesome, beautiful shadow shadows shotowt No Free Shadow,

1405
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: My shadow, No Free Shadow is the first time being

1406
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: sun kissed after a long winter, and it kind of

1407
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: goes back to La Wan Easter Bash twenty twenty five. Man,

1408
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: we were all out there all day. It's like hot

1409
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: where if it was like it's been weeks of it

1410
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: being that temperature. Everybody like, yeah, it's pretty hot out here,

1411
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: but I feel like it was everybody's first time, like

1412
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of being out in the open after a long

1413
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: hibernating winter and everyone's just like enjoying a little bit

1414
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: of sweat going on your cheeks. At the end of

1415
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: the day, you kind of look. I look at Tailor

1416
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: and I go, sweet, you got a little a little

1417
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: red on your face. She's like look at you, and

1418
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: I go look in the mirror and I'm like, dude, yes,

1419
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: we're back and tan time. It's beautiful. Sooner or later,

1420
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: Jack will see me in the bronco ripping around no shirt.

1421
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: Just try to keep that tan even baby. I'm I'm

1422
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: about it.

1423
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: I love it.

1424
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: I Hey, there's not a better feeling, man than getting

1425
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: that first hand. Yeah, boys, got it.

1426
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 5: I got one kind of on the same lines as yours.

1427
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 5: But it's the first time you get into a pool

1428
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 5: after a winner or whatever. And apparently yesterday my cousin

1429
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 5: told me he's ex army guys, so like, I believe

1430
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 5: what he's saying.

1431
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 6: Was apparently the hottest record on day for April twentieth

1432
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 6: ever earlier this year.

1433
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: So it was a beautiful.

1434
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 6: Dayesterday in Nashville.

1435
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: Pool was going.

1436
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 5: I was at my parents' house and just like getting

1437
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 5: in there and just diving in, just kind of floating around.

1438
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 9: You.

1439
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 6: Remember, Yeah, the good times are right on the horizon.

1440
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're on the horizon.

1441
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: I love the water.

1442
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 6: So anytime I getting the pool, the ocean, the lake,

1443
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 6: it's a good day. Sipping on some neutral, sitting on neutral,

1444
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 6: like whatever you want.

1445
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: Man, they both work.

1446
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Also, you brought you said four twenty yesterday. Oh, my

1447
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: wife and I nine year anniversary.

1448
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 3: So nine years manage you guys do easter. We just chilled.

1449
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: We just chilled. Man, it was awesome.

1450
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: Like, so did you throw on a you throwing a

1451
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: roast spark and spark that ship up?

1452
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: You don't worry about my personal life and on your

1453
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: birthday personal life. No, that's gog. Could you imagine could

1454
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: you imagine me like putting on the shold and I

1455
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: kind of over the kail and start kissing the neck

1456
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: a little shit we doing? You know you in the buggalo?

1457
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1458
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: Are you still watching you while we get that.

1459
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: This is battle camp? Yeah? Yeah, we were sitting there

1460
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: and uh, it was like, yeah, we kind of just

1461
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: chow because it was Easter and the kids were all

1462
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: about Easter. We did this this so last year, we're

1463
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: driving down Granny White and we see a dog and

1464
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: the dogs are just like kind of in the open,

1465
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: So we get out, we get the dog. We find

1466
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: out we like go over to these people's houses. These

1467
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: this old couple lives in this house. We end up

1468
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: hanging out their house for like an hour. This lady Margaret,

1469
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: it's like showing us our greenhouse, their garden. Like it's

1470
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: just awesome to be around them. They send us a

1471
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: east like they do like an Easter egg hunt for

1472
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: the neighborhood every year, and we like we went to

1473
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: that hung out. It was awesome, nice and then obviously

1474
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: you guys know Jason like I don't want a flex

1475
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: but like your I righte every day, every day, Monday

1476
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: through Friday, like we're eating like crazy good meals and

1477
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: so Tayler, like last night I called shum up. I'm

1478
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: like Torchies, what should I get? So we order a

1479
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: budge of that torches got that caso.

1480
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: But was it enough?

1481
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: No hughe babies Burgers milkshakes. Just sitting there watching my team,

1482
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: the Toronto maple Leaves take one oh against the Senators

1483
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: due my team, my boys.

1484
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: The number one seed, number one, bro.

1485
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: You want the last time they won a Cup nineteen

1486
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: sixty seven. See are notorious for being for getting kicked

1487
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs in the first round. Notorious for it,

1488
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: and everyone I talked to who's been in the NHL

1489
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: says the Toronto may Believes are like the Dallas Cowboys.

1490
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: Like it's like like you're treated like royalty, like that

1491
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: is the America's team. That's whatever, NHL's team. And then

1492
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: Austin Matthew Scottsdale guy Senators, their captain Brady Kuchuk, he's

1493
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: a scott Stale guy. So I got a couple of

1494
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: azy boys walking to sea on their chest watched them

1495
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: good old fashioned hockey, watching the boys crush them. Sixty

1496
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: two cashed in a nice little money line, Toronto Bett,

1497
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: We're up, We're gonna win it all this year.

1498
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 3: Let's go, Let's go.

1499
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: I got a shout out, A free shout out what

1500
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: you got This morning? I was working out in the

1501
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: garage and I saw something and that I wish I

1502
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: could meet the dad that created it. But it's the

1503
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: tennis ball in the garage that lets you know when

1504
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: to stop pulling forward nice and it's multi use like

1505
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: when you're growing up. You punch it, yeah, you dodge it.

1506
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: And it was I saw it in my friend's garage,

1507
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, whoever this legend was?

1508
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 3: You know?

1509
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: When he finished screwing in that little thing up top,

1510
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: just stood back, put his hands on his hips, looked

1511
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: at it and was like I just changed the world.

1512
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: And he did.

1513
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: And I wish I knew.

1514
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 3: Nn't wait to tell the rest of the dad's is

1515
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: practice right.

1516
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Speaker 2: Like y'all got to do this. You or your wife

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01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: will never run into the front of your garage again.

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Speaker 2: Once you do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah icon, it's a great shout out.

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Speaker 1: Yeahs of mankind ever, Yes, hence mankind.

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Speaker 3: Anybody anybody trying to follow that one. Oh okay o.

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Speaker 8: Ship, It's not like that had I want to shout

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 8: out Alex Cant too. He came to the shot last

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Speaker 8: week you guys had just left. He is a border

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Speaker 8: patrol officer down in Texas, dropped off some patches for

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Speaker 8: the boys. So I said that we would shout him

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Speaker 8: out on the pod. So, uh yeah, shout out Alex Canto.

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01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 8: We appreciate you what you do down there on the border.

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Speaker 8: All right, now we got some uh some patches. Show

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01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 8: shout out Alex.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Alex Man, appreciate you coming, Bob brother.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive in.

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Speaker 1: We're good.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive in.

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Speaker 3: welcome to Busting with the Boys.

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Speaker 4: It's an honor, it's an it is an honor to

1567
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: have you on. Man, I'd been looking forward to this

1568
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 4: for a long time.

1569
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 3: I appreciate you're not a big interview guy.

1570
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 4: I'm not. So we are off season too, and it's

1571
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 4: like and it's like in my kind of my hometown,

1572
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 4: you know, and it's like where I really just try

1573
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 4: to like unwine and not get into too much. So really,

1574
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: she kind of pushed me to do it.

1575
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: Should I kill me?

1576
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: Man?

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

1578
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 4: You really did not. Really, No, I was wanting to

1579
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 4: be damn. Wanted to my wife and.

1580
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 3: If she wanted to we got the wife. Now, we

1581
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 3: got a little Micah here.

1582
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do a tell all of the bus. That'll

1583
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: be nice. I know every person in Nashville who has

1584
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: ever gone to a Tennessee Titans football game is smiling

1585
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: ear to ear right now. They're thinking about you. And

1586
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: you were telling a story before about coming back and

1587
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: playing the Titans for the first time. I like you

1588
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: to relive that for me and camera.

1589
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 4: So back last season was the first time I played

1590
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,959
Speaker 4: against the Titans and crazy thing. It's been five years

1591
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 4: and it was a really emotional time for me. It

1592
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 4: was kind of weird and eerie because it's like, you know,

1593
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 4: I really I wasn't playing, and it was like I

1594
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 4: was going out there and I was seen. I mean,

1595
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 4: there's like maybe two guys there since I've been there,

1596
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, but it's a lot of the same resource staff.

1597
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 4: You know. I saw Jeb of course saw Jeb, you.

1598
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: Know, Jeff Wald Marcus, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1599
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,440
Speaker 4: But got to see Amy and Keith and the ownership

1600
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: and it was it was cool. Got to share a

1601
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 4: moment a little bit and got a big hug, and

1602
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 4: I was kind of unexpected for me. I didn't know

1603
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 4: how that was going to go, and they were just

1604
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: very welcoming, and I think for me personally, like it

1605
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 4: was so such a good five years regardless of how

1606
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 4: it finished and all that, but there's a lot of

1607
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: good memories in there, and it was it was kind

1608
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 4: of cool to share a moment with them, and you

1609
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 4: never close the door man, you never closed the door?

1610
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, why why was it? Why was Why did it

1611
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 3: feel unexpected? Do you feel like it ended in a

1612
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 3: very awkward way to where you just you more so.

1613
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm gonna use the word hate for

1614
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 3: a lack of a better term, but you just have

1615
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 3: this assumption built up in your head how it might go. Yeah,

1616
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of animosity, but maybe not really

1617
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: I think a little bo.

1618
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 4: It's I mean pride, right, you know, like at the time,

1619
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 4: like Ryan played unbelievable and I was upset that it

1620
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 4: wasn't me and I wanted to be there. I wanted

1621
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 4: to be a part of that. And when it didn't

1622
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 4: work out, I didn't know what that response was going

1623
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 4: to be from people that were around there, I know,

1624
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 4: for how it was for me personally, Like you know, yeah,

1625
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 4: I was upset, but at the same time, we had

1626
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: so many people in there that were so good to

1627
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 4: me that I was like, huh, I wonder how that's

1628
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 4: gonna like pan out? Like I didn't. I didn't really

1629
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 4: get to say goodbye maybe the way that I wanted to,

1630
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 4: and to see people, to see some familiar faces, the

1631
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 4: love and all that that was still there, like it

1632
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 4: was very genuine and yeah it was. I mean it

1633
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 4: was emotional for me. So it was kind of one

1634
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 4: of those moments. And it does help when you win

1635
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 4: the game obviously, Yeah, but yeah, it was cool to

1636
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 4: see a lot of a lot of old faces.

1637
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: Did you have a lot of guys on the team

1638
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: leading up to playing the Titans that were like, Hey,

1639
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna get.

1640
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 3: One for you.

1641
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it's funny because d Q he does

1642
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 4: he does like a rotation of captains every week, and

1643
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 4: a lot of times it's guys that either played for

1644
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: that team or whatever. So when it was the Titans week,

1645
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: I was like, he's for sure. Like I was like,

1646
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 4: he's gonna because at the at the end of the day,

1647
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 4: like he picks three guys and then like he has

1648
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 4: a guy basically speak to the team, And for me,

1649
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm probably gonna end up being one

1650
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: of those guys just because how it played out. So

1651
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 4: it was kind of the team was like kind of

1652
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 4: rallying around that and I'm like, guys, I'm I'm like

1653
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 4: five years removed, Like you know, that staff, everybody there,

1654
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 4: like most of those guys are, but you.

1655
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: Remember Ben Jones, like every time we played Houston, Oh

1656
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: for sure, it was always like super personal to him.

1657
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: And he was at the Titans for seven years, yes,

1658
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: and even that seventh year to be like Ben, like this,

1659
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: you gotta we don't worry, We're gonna get this one

1660
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: for you.

1661
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1662
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: So they were rallying around you like that a little bit.

1663
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 4: And we had such a good team, just a like

1664
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 4: a core group of guys last year. That was just fun.

1665
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 4: It reminded me a lot of like our first few

1666
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: years in Tennessee. Just guys are very close regardless of

1667
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 4: what side of the ball they played on. So it

1668
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 4: was a pretty cool moment for me to be a

1669
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 4: part of that. And yeah, those guys, man, they were

1670
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna get this one for you. I'm like, it's

1671
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: still a regular game for me. Like we're good, bro.

1672
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: But when the clock struck zero, it was a piece

1673
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: you Like there was a little bit that's like your

1674
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: competitive nature.

1675
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, got those best?

1676
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. How was how was the the goodbye? You say?

1677
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 1: You might have been the goodbye you wanted to have

1678
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: obviously the way it ended with the Denver with the

1679
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: Denver game, and we'll get into all that, but like

1680
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: when you're cleaning out your locker for the last time,

1681
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: do you like remember that. Do you remember looking back

1682
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: and being like, I think, Okay, this is probably the

1683
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: last one I'll ever step in this facility again after

1684
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: being picked.

1685
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. I think those those emotions definitely

1686
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 4: crossed my mind. What was hard about it was I

1687
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: was I mean, I was like twenty six, so I

1688
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 4: was like, I'm just I'm I'm gonna find the next

1689
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 4: spot and I'm going to go play, and I'm going

1690
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: to go prove everybody wrong. And instead of like kind

1691
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 4: of just like you said, taking a moment and like

1692
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 4: realizing like what was really going on and to just

1693
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 4: say thank you to a lot of the people that

1694
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 4: were I mean, there's people in there job you know,

1695
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 4: hoss and hosses in there anymore, but you know, just

1696
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 4: years and years and years of people that you know

1697
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 4: did a lot for you. So I think I was

1698
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 4: so focused on what was next that I didn't didn't

1699
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: really take time to just say, you know, hey, thank you.

1700
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 4: We we had a good run.

1701
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1702
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to be present in those moments, for sure,

1703
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: it really is.

1704
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 3: How was it for you as a player kind of

1705
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 3: going through. I'm not going to say first you've had

1706
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 3: plenty of adversities, but a big adversity known that you

1707
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 3: were the second overall pick, and probably a part of

1708
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: you feels like maybe yourself personally, like did I fail

1709
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 3: this franchise or am I starting to doubt my ability?

1710
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 3: Like bring us in your head of the player in

1711
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 3: that moment in that year, Oh.

1712
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 4: Dude, it was yeah, all of that. And I think

1713
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 4: a lot of that was because I have such high

1714
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 4: expectations for myself that I was. I envisioned being a

1715
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 4: part of a super Bowl team there. I envisioned myself

1716
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 4: kind of like being a guy and playing up to

1717
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: all the expectations, and when it doesn't work out that way,

1718
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 4: it's a it's a sting. And I think for a

1719
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 4: long period of time, like I never really had to

1720
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 4: deal with that. You know. I came here at Oregon

1721
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: and we were rolling, you know, and.

1722
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: I three till what was it, three or four touchdown

1723
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: ass in the first half of this first year.

1724
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: He had a perfect perfect quarterback rating. Yeah, hey, that

1725
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: game too, We'll get into that. That game, I was like,

1726
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna win it, because but the year before that,

1727
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: we were three to thirteen, and I was like, we're

1728
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: gonna be This is awful.

1729
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 4: Bro, It's so funny. I'll never forget. I'm sitting next

1730
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 4: to Craig Stevens after we'd won that game. He looks

1731
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 4: at me, he goes, we're gonna make the playoffs this year,

1732
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 4: and then we lose like six.

1733
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 3: I was like, what the yeah?

1734
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 4: But no, I mean yeah, I just you go through

1735
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 4: a lot of ups and sometimes you feel like you're invincible,

1736
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 4: and I think I was kind of in that mode

1737
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 4: and I was struggling a little bit. Probably. I would

1738
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 4: even say, like in twenty eighteen just being hurt. I

1739
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 4: was like banged up, and that's right.

1740
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 3: You had the was it the wrist of handle four?

1741
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 4: I don't wish twenty eighteen up on anybody like I was.

1742
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 4: I had a fraction in my neck, I had a

1743
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 4: broken rib, I had torn plant and fascy itis. It

1744
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 4: was like it was a mess.

1745
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: And it sounds like it is off. It's lined to

1746
01:14:59,640 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: do better.

1747
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 4: That's not true. That's true.

1748
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 3: The Ravens.

1749
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: A that Ravens games crazy.

1750
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 4: Talk about. We got to talk about that. A lot

1751
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 4: of that was I was holding the ball. It's fair,

1752
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 4: you know, but yeah, I was just I think, like

1753
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 4: twenty eighteenenty seventeen, like I was, I didn't feel invincible anymore.

1754
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 4: I had. I had a really bad ankle injury in sixteen,

1755
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 4: very unfortunate, where you know, you just got legs like

1756
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 4: tangled up and I broke my ankle, and that was

1757
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 4: kind of the first time really as an athlete where

1758
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like, Okay, I'm really not superhuman, like

1759
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to I can get hurt, I can kind

1760
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 4: of get in trouble in that sense. And it was

1761
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: kind of interesting because I think a lot of that

1762
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 4: started to develop a little bit of the anxiety, the

1763
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 4: fear of not being maybe who I thought I was,

1764
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 4: and I think that all kind of cumulated into what

1765
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 4: transpired in nineteen, where I mean, I wasn't playing well

1766
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 4: at all, be completely honest with you, and I think

1767
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 4: Braves was just trying to like hang on during camp

1768
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 4: and we all kind of knew Ryan was playing well,

1769
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 4: and I think out of respect for me, he was like,

1770
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 4: just keep it, like we'll get you there. We'll get

1771
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 4: you there, because I mean we've I played against him.

1772
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 4: He was a defensive corner in Houston, like I had

1773
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 4: some good runs against him, so he kind of knew

1774
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 4: what the potential was. And I think I was so

1775
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 4: lost in my own mind that I just it kind

1776
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 4: of just led to what it was. So yeah, I

1777
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 4: mean it's interesting because I think throughout my career, I've

1778
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 4: kind of had these peaks and valleys, and I'm starting

1779
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 4: to overcome these values because I'm leaning into a little

1780
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 4: bit more of the mental side of the game. I

1781
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 4: was so much more like physical, Like I was like

1782
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 4: I can just kind of outrun people, I can outthrow people.

1783
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 4: Now it's like, Okay, you can't do that anymore, Like

1784
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: how are you going to kind of create the advantage

1785
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 4: create those types of things? And that's when I started

1786
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 4: to kind of learn a little bit more about how

1787
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 4: to play the position. And that was a lot of

1788
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: that had to do with like being with the Raiders

1789
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 4: and and so yeah, but I think over time you

1790
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 4: just kind of learn, and part of that adversity made

1791
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 4: me better.

1792
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: When you talk about things you would do a little

1793
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: bit differently, do you ever wish you were more vocal

1794
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: with the ocs. Yeah, one thing I noticed, There's one

1795
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 1: thing I did notice when they're like, what was it

1796
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: doing between Ryan and Marcus is I always you always

1797
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: were very agreeable, like you were always super easy to

1798
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: get along with. It always see my hey, markus are

1799
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna do this and this, And there was never a

1800
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: pushback in a team meeting room. But I remember, I

1801
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: think it was the game after the Denver game, We're

1802
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: playing a Chargers. I remember Ryan's first starting him and Arthur.

1803
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: I walked into the little cafeteria on Saturday, and I

1804
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: literally hear Ryan going, don't call this play, call this one.

1805
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 1: I like this play on first down, like this play

1806
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: on second down. And he just seemed like he seemed

1807
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: like a guy that's been in the leaf for a

1808
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: long time and has had more valleys. And so when

1809
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: you look back at that, like what would you have

1810
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: done differently from like a vocal standpoint with these ocs.

1811
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 4: I think you said it just being open and transparent

1812
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 4: about what I felt most comfortable with, because I think

1813
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 4: the ego for me is like I can do anything.

1814
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: Whatever you want me to do, I'll do it. But

1815
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 4: there's things that you really like and there's things that

1816
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 4: you're good at, and I think I could have been

1817
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 4: more transparent about Hey, I don't see that very well

1818
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 4: I'm not into that. I don't like hard play action,

1819
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 4: turning my back and like trying to figure out what's

1820
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 4: going on. Like being able to communicate those things early

1821
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 4: on in my career I think would have helped. And

1822
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 4: that's something that like with me now, like being able to,

1823
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 4: like hey, Jay talking about Jaden, like tell them what

1824
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 4: you like and what you don't like, you know, just

1825
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 4: kind of passing some of that knowledge on a little

1826
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 4: bit so that maybe he doesn't kind of follow the footsteps.

1827
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 10: That I did.

1828
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: You mentioned figuring some things out with the Raiders. What

1829
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 3: was it about the Raiders that was kind of bringing

1830
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 3: you out of your shell or your development or maybe

1831
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 3: it was coming out of that valley and being in

1832
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: a completely new environment, because sometimes that's super helpful for

1833
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 3: a player.

1834
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of that, A lot of it was

1835
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 4: Coach Gruden. He was like, hey, I want you to

1836
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 4: come here for a couple of years, just like find yourself.

1837
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 4: I know you're kind of not you who you are,

1838
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 4: Like you're kind of lost, and he's like, man, just

1839
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 4: take your time figure it out. And I have a

1840
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 4: lot of respect for Coach Gruden. I know people may

1841
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 4: have however they feel about him, but at that point

1842
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 4: in time in my career, that's exactly what I needed.

1843
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 4: And I was in a great quarterback room like Derek's

1844
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 4: awesome and being able just to kind of find the

1845
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 4: love again almost like competing and having fun. And a

1846
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 4: lot of that was just like Gruden, like, hey, just

1847
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: go out there and feel free to make a mistake,

1848
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 4: like you don't have to be perfect. So I really

1849
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 4: kind of aligned with that and I felt very comfortable

1850
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 4: with it. And then on top of that, like Vegas

1851
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 4: is like the Ninth Island, so people in Hawaii when

1852
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 4: they go to vacation, they go to Vegas, And for me,

1853
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 4: I had a lot of family and friends there, so

1854
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 4: like I felt very comfortable in that community and it

1855
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 4: made it really easy for me just to kind of

1856
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 4: transition with my family, and I think a lot of

1857
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 4: that was kind of why I felt like I found

1858
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 4: myself again.

1859
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: About this place we're at right now, Oregon, like what

1860
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: has changed so much since you've been here, because it

1861
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: seems like they just keep growing every single year and

1862
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: things just keep getting better and better.

1863
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 4: It's impressive. It's impressive. And there was a street there

1864
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 4: when we were done where there was kind of a

1865
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 4: transition of coaches over and over again, but I think

1866
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 4: the heart and soul of the program has always been Eugene.

1867
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 4: It's like the only thing in town right, Like, no

1868
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 4: matter regardless of how the team's doing, like that stadium

1869
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 4: is usually sold out, and it was such a crazy

1870
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: following here. So to have that kind of steady fandom

1871
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 4: I think has always propelled this place to be good.

1872
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 4: And it's always given this place like expectations and regardless

1873
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 4: of who's been the coach, I think guys have always

1874
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 4: tried to come here because it is the University of Nike.

1875
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 4: And when you look at it from that standpoint, you

1876
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 4: let these guys just come in here and play and

1877
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 4: put it together. You can find ways to be pretty

1878
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 4: good here. And I think Dan's kind of found the formula,

1879
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 4: and it's been cool to watch.

1880
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: What's it like when you walk into this building and

1881
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: you go up. I don't know why this place is amaze,

1882
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: but you walk up, you walk up the stairs one

1883
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: of these seventeen staircases and you look over and it's

1884
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: got the Islands of Hawaii. Yeah, and there's another hallway

1885
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: that has the eight Mariota jersey, Like, yeah, what is that? Like,

1886
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: what does that feel like?

1887
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 3: Well, our first visit here, we're walking in and we're like, yo,

1888
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: this is Marcus's.

1889
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: House house, Like it's it's crazy, your only Heisman Trophy winner.

1890
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: It's sitting right there.

1891
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 4: It's surreal, man, And don't do that. No, I know

1892
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 4: it's really and I don't want to get emotional because

1893
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 4: it is like, you know, I came here. I was

1894
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 4: seventeen years old, like, didn't have much thought about what

1895
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 4: was going on outside of Hawaii and come to this

1896
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 4: place in you g. I was so homesick my first year,

1897
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 4: but like they took me kind of under their wing

1898
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 4: and regardless of who it was, like it was people

1899
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 4: in the community, it was a staff, a lot of

1900
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 4: the trainers are still here that I was here with,

1901
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 4: so they really kind of helped me transition into who

1902
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 4: I was. And yeah, I just it's it does it

1903
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 4: does get a little emotional because it's so such a

1904
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 4: part of you and it's kind of like I said,

1905
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,799
Speaker 4: it's surreal, like to think that middle of the Pacific,

1906
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 4: some kid gets to come here and become the only

1907
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy When they're like that's well, I don't even

1908
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 4: know what the odds Are that right, Like that's wild. Yeah,

1909
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 4: So it kind of blows my mind and still to

1910
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 4: this day, like even walking through there, it is it's

1911
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 4: just surreal.

1912
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: How did you go through the process of choosing organ.

1913
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 4: That's a great story. Actually, So they offered me before

1914
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 4: I even started a game in high.

1915
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 3: School, before you even started a game.

1916
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 4: So there was a kid, there was a guy in

1917
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 4: front of me. His name is Jeremy Higgins's All state player.

1918
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: He's great, left handed kid, could really throw it and

1919
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 4: was committed to Utah State. So I really just had

1920
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 4: to wait my turn, and I like I messed around

1921
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 4: playing receiver, like I was doing all sorts of stuff,

1922
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 4: and I'd kind of done the camp circuit and got

1923
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 4: my name out there.

1924
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 3: I guess camp circuit like Nike camps, so Spark.

1925
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 4: The Nike Spark Camp. The other couple of combines they

1926
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 4: used to hold like these A P I A combines

1927
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 4: in Hawaii And.

1928
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 3: How old are you at this time? Like what are

1929
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 3: you like a soft sophomore? Part hadn't started yet.

1930
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hadn't played. I mean I played a game

1931
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 4: here there when we're blowing teams out or when Jeremy

1932
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 4: had gotten hurt I played a little bit, but nothing

1933
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: to the extent to receive and organ at the time

1934
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 4: was like playing in national championship. Yeah, so it was

1935
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 4: kind of a weird, wild story that like, why are

1936
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 4: you offering this kid wasn't played yet. But what I

1937
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: learned the story was was the off into the line

1938
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 4: coach here, Coach great Wood was going and recruiting, and

1939
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 4: he was recruiting in my high school. Mina Greg who

1940
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 4: ended up playing here, was playing guard and it just

1941
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 4: so happened while he was there. He I guess, had

1942
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 4: noticed me running like I was. We were running sprints

1943
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: or something, and had threw my name out there. So

1944
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 4: they invited me to come to the camp here, and

1945
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 4: someone showed me a video. But Johnny kind of talked

1946
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 4: about this a little bit, Johnny Manziel and at the

1947
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 4: time I was offered and Johnny was offered, but they

1948
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 4: invited me to this camp and they basically were like,

1949
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 4: put me on his team to I don't know, play

1950
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 4: with all these other high school kids. And I had

1951
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 4: been there for two days. I'm in pads like doing

1952
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 4: all this stuff, and Johnny shows up unpadded T shirt

1953
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 4: and shorts, goes in there says they're going to do

1954
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 4: a workout with him. Coach Kelly hasn't really even talked

1955
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 4: to me. I've been here for two days. He's like, hey, like,

1956
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 4: why don't you just come in, like just do a

1957
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 4: workout with Johnny. And I'm mad because I'm like, Johnny's

1958
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 4: not even been here. They're gonna he's like offered whatever.

1959
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,839
Speaker 4: Like I was just like not feeling the love basically,

1960
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 4: and we run a forty We're throwing and Johnny, it

1961
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 4: was the worker was unbelievable. Like I mean, I can

1962
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 4: still remember to this day, like I don't think a

1963
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: ball touch the ground and it's funny to think, you know,

1964
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 4: ten years later or whatever it is. But like he

1965
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 4: had two Heisman Trophy winners in there going through a

1966
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 4: workout together. And but I just remember at the time

1967
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 4: I left and Johnny commits, and I was so mad

1968
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 4: because I'm like, he hasn't been here. I've been here

1969
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 4: a couple of days, Like I've been talking to the coaches,

1970
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 4: Like he just commits on the spot and I don't

1971
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 4: even have a chance to commit or whatever. And I

1972
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 4: was like upset about it. And we're on the plane

1973
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 4: ride home and I told my mom like, I want

1974
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 4: to go to Washington. I had got an offer from

1975
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 4: Washington Steve Sarkes and was up there and sark was like,

1976
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 4: he gave me wrote out the red carpet. We had talked,

1977
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 4: you know. I was like, I'm going there. I'm selling

1978
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 4: from there. Yeah. So we're sitting there on the plane

1979
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 4: and my mom's like, you really want to go to Washington.

1980
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 4: I was like no, I mean, Oregon was like all

1981
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 4: like everywhere I wanted to be. And she's like, at

1982
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 4: some point in time, you're gonna have to compete, so

1983
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 4: you might as well compete wherever you go, and you

1984
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 4: might as well go where you want to go. And

1985
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 4: she told me that and that was it, and I

1986
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 4: committed when we got home, and kind of the rest

1987
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 4: is history. But yeah, that's wind it out. I was

1988
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 4: so sad on being an Orgon Duck because of guys

1989
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 4: that had played before me, Like there's a guy named

1990
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Massoli who went to my high school had played

1991
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 4: quarterback here and I just remember watching the Ducks as

1992
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 4: a kid, and I was like, that's where I want

1993
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 4: to be. So for my mom to say that to

1994
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 4: me in that point in time, I was like, well, yeah,

1995
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 4: I might as well compete and go where I want

1996
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,799
Speaker 4: to go. So that's how I know that's awesome.

1997
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: That is well because I did see I think that

1998
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: was on Club that Johnny was talking about him saying

1999
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: Marcus and he's like, this fucking guy just he talks

2000
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: about the work like not a ball touched the ground.

2001
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: Have you seen that clip?

2002
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 4: That's it?

2003
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's making it an organ basically said that

2004
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: because of Marcus, I'm not gonna make it an organ.

2005
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 3: And that's wild. What was it like, dude? Talk about

2006
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: growing up in Hawaii. Like anytime that I've taken my

2007
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: family down for a vacation, I've seen eight jerseys in

2008
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 3: Hawaii and the culture they're like even listen to you

2009
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 3: in the interview, like the perspective that you have, the

2010
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 3: peaks and valleys, and just the intention and the moments

2011
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 3: that you seem to live in and appreciate. I feel

2012
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 3: like that's all over. That's all over Hawaii. Like that's

2013
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: like Hawaiian culture. Like everybody seems to be so proud

2014
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: of guys like yourself, Mantiiteo, guys who have like made

2015
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 3: it on the mainland and talk about just talk about that, yeah,

2016
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 3: like talk about it. You can talk about that. Man.

2017
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 4: It's funny because growing up, when you like watch the

2018
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 4: news and they would like the sports would come on,

2019
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 4: they would just show the athlete, like they wouldn't even

2020
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 4: really care about what the score was, like whether they

2021
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 4: put in the NFL MOLB like whatever. It was like, hey,

2022
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 4: so and so from Hawaii was two for three and

2023
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 4: hit a home run or and it was like, oh,

2024
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 4: by the way, like the Boston Red Sox won the game.

2025
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 4: So like very early on, like as a kid, you

2026
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 4: just it was always highlighted like people from Hawaii, and

2027
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 4: you kind of like that was like, oh, it's like

2028
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 4: it's the responsibility, like you want to be able to

2029
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 4: represent that the best way possible. So that was kind

2030
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 4: of always in my mind. And then really I think

2031
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 4: for Hawaii, like there is a little bit of a

2032
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 4: chip on your shoulder, like you're not a part of

2033
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 4: the continental US, so it's like, you know, the closest

2034
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 4: land mass is five and a half hours away, so

2035
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, there is a little bit of a

2036
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 4: chip on your shoulder, and everyone's always talking about, oh,

2037
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 4: you're from Hawaii, Like you know, maybe the football is

2038
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 4: a little different down there or whatever, and it was

2039
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 4: just kind of that type of chip on your shoulder

2040
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 4: and people always highlighting those athletes. I think that really

2041
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 4: just like creates like this really crazy fandom, you know,

2042
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 4: and it's it's a blessing in guys. And I really like,

2043
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 4: whenever I look back and think about it, like, I'm

2044
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 4: very lucky to be where I'm from. And when it's

2045
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 4: all sad and done, that's that's where you'll find me.

2046
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 4: Somewhere on the beach. I'll be like three hundred pounds,

2047
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 4: but I'll be down. Yeah. Yeah, hell dude, have you

2048
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 4: you've been there all the rice and amazing.

2049
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 3: It's amazing when you go there. Is it like a

2050
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 3: movie star showing up?

2051
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: No?

2052
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,759
Speaker 3: No, no, bro, it has to be. Is it crazy?

2053
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: I'll ask the missus what we're not walking around the mall? Yeah,

2054
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like.

2055
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 4: It's really honestly not that bad.

2056
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Who do you think is more famous in Noai? You

2057
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: were Manti Tale?

2058
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 4: Okay, I get Manti. He's got his own Netflix, bro,

2059
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 4: he does have his own Netflix Netflix. But I mean

2060
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 4: I was kind of a third part of Pat and Kirk.

2061
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 4: You know, they're just like oh, we kind of put

2062
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 4: Marcus in there.

2063
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 3: So how was that experience?

2064
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 4: It was all right, safe space, Yeah, it was it was.

2065
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 4: I will say our crew that we had for Netflix

2066
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 4: were it was awesome. They're unbelievable. Shannon and that entire

2067
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 4: group were great, especially with Kimmi being pregnant with her

2068
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: first like very respectful of space and all that. It

2069
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 4: was old though, after really like a week, I was like,

2070
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 4: I don't know why I signed up for this.

2071
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: They're just in your house every day all the time.

2072
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 4: Well, they actually they were like for outside stuff, they

2073
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 4: were cool. They're like, hey, I know Kelly's pregnant, like

2074
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 4: just once every couple of weeks, just like let us

2075
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 4: come do something, whether it was like meeting with Taylor

2076
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 4: our chef, or you know, like coming into the Ultra

2077
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 4: sound and different things like that. So they really kind

2078
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 4: of kept safe space. But like I was mic for

2079
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 4: like every practice, every game. It was brutal.

2080
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing to think that you signed up for that.

2081
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 4: Just well I'm not gonna lie to you. Like the

2082
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 4: money was good, so yeah, I kind of turned that

2083
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 4: down too. I was they sat there like, hey, will

2084
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 4: you do this for this? I was like Uh yeah,

2085
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:09,080
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2086
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2125
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 3: removed from from your perspective what went down at Atlanta,

2126
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 3: because there are obviously stories that came out of your

2127
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 3: like questioning your commitment to the team, obviously being a

2128
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: teammate of yours, it's like you're reading that stuff and

2129
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 3: trying to fill in whatever gaps without being like, hey, Marcus,

2130
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 3: what happened in Atlanta? Like fresh off of Atlanta?

2131
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was, And we talked about peaks and valleys,

2132
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 4: like that was a valley for sure, I think, and

2133
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 4: we all kind of know Art, Like Art's a very

2134
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 4: emotional person, so I think sometimes he can kind of

2135
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 4: maybe say some things that give or take maybe not

2136
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 4: what he wanted to say or wanted to portray. And

2137
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 4: it was one of those things where we were all

2138
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 4: pretty aligned of like what was going to happen. I

2139
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 4: was signed there for two years, yea, and it kind

2140
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 4: of flipped And I don't really know the extent why,

2141
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 4: And nothing against Art, Like I understand being a head

2142
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 4: coach it's a hard position. I understand that it can

2143
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 4: make you do some things that maybe you don't want

2144
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 4: to do right. But at the same time, like some

2145
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 4: things were said, and it was almost like I just

2146
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 4: kind of had to remove myself from that situation just

2147
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 4: because I was like, first of all, I didn't want

2148
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 4: to be distract I never want to be a distraction,

2149
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 4: Like that was never the intent. At the time. I

2150
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 4: was not sure how bad of a knee injury had

2151
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 4: and when they wanted to go in a different direction

2152
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 4: with Daz, I was they were like, hey, you know

2153
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 4: you're signed for a couple of years. We love to

2154
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 4: have you. So in my mind, I was like, well,

2155
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 4: at that point in time, like, let me just go

2156
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 4: make sure my knees like ready to roll, regardless of

2157
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 4: whatever that looks like. And you know, unfortunately, like when

2158
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 4: and I left to go get the surgery, like things

2159
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 4: were said, and yeah, I mean but at the end

2160
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 4: of the day, like I saw Art the other day

2161
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 4: or not the other day, but during the season, and

2162
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 4: I got nothing but love for him, Like he gave

2163
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 4: me a chance really after after Vegas, well almost at Oakland,

2164
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 4: but he gave me a chance to be a guy. Right,

2165
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 4: he gave me a chance to play. And I don't

2166
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 4: have any towards that animosity towards that situation kind of

2167
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 4: unfolded the way that it did, and it was unfortunate

2168
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 4: because I think at the end of the day, like,

2169
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 4: I'm not sure my relationship with art will ever really

2170
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 4: be the same. But when you look back on it, like,

2171
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 4: I learned a lot from it and it made me

2172
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 4: appreciate being around people that care for you and want

2173
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 4: you to be around.

2174
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: So is there anything you would have done different in

2175
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,520
Speaker 3: those moments looking back on how everything unfolded.

2176
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 4: If I I guess if I had known maybe what

2177
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 4: was going to be said for people, So I guess,

2178
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. Like he kind of came out after

2179
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 4: the I think it was like we had a bye week.

2180
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 4: Makaia was born on Wednesday. He brought me in on Thursday.

2181
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 4: Was like, hey, we're going to go in a different direction.

2182
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 4: You know, take some time to kind of talk it through,

2183
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 4: talk it to your agent whatever. Yeah, tough, right, there's

2184
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 4: a lot of emotions kind of built in there, so

2185
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 4: you know, talk to my agent. And we were just

2186
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 4: like it was very much like, hey, they want you

2187
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 4: back for another year. You know, you're kind of technically

2188
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 4: we're not out of it, but we were out of

2189
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 4: it in terms of playoff positioning. He's like, you know,

2190
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 4: let's just go maybe make sure your knees good to

2191
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 4: go and attack this AID camp again and see where

2192
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 4: you stand. Talk to Art, talked to Terry, and that

2193
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 4: was kind of where when I laughed, we were kind

2194
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 4: of all aligned in that, and my thought was that

2195
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 4: I was going to go get surgery, come back and

2196
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 4: kind of be around and helped as if he needed it.

2197
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 4: And then some things were said on Monday with Art,

2198
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 4: and at that point in time, I was like, Oh,

2199
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to just kind of pop back in

2200
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 4: and like make this a whole ordeal, so I'll just

2201
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 4: kind of take it on the chin and just kind

2202
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 4: of step away from it. And you know, guys reached

2203
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 4: out and called and kind of checked in to see

2204
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 4: what was going on. But yeah, it was just like

2205
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,799
Speaker 4: I never want to be kind of the center of attention.

2206
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 4: I just kind of want to do my job and

2207
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 4: make sure others around me or kind of getting better

2208
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 4: and I can help them kind of achieve what they

2209
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 4: want to achieve. So for me, like I saw Daz

2210
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 4: after the whole conversation talk to him, was like, hey, man,

2211
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 4: if you ever need anything, I'm here for you. I'm

2212
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 4: gonna go get my knee fixed, but don't hesitate the

2213
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 4: car or whatever. And I left, and I'm looking back

2214
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 4: on it, I probably should have stuck around maybe till

2215
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 4: the following week and just talk to the team. But

2216
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 4: in my mind, I was like, I'm coming back anyways.

2217
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 3: Right, you felt like you were aligned, Yeah.

2218
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 4: And I felt like I was like going, okay, I

2219
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm not disappearing, like I'm going to

2220
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 4: come back and like be around. And but once that

2221
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 4: was sad, I was like, yeah, I don't think it's

2222
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 4: probably healthy for anybody for me just to walk back

2223
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 4: in there.

2224
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2225
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was just yeah, stepped away, and you know,

2226
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 4: and like I said, like I think with Art, it's

2227
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate because I do think he's a good guy. Like,

2228
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 4: and when you're put in positions where it's like, you know,

2229
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 4: maybe things aren't going the way that you want and

2230
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 4: things aren't really materializing, you know, I think unfortunately it

2231
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 4: can get a little bit where I don't I don't

2232
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 4: want to say like cover your ass, because I really

2233
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 4: don't think that's what it was. I just think like

2234
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 4: he didn't know what to say, and I wasn't there

2235
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 4: to make any sort of comment on it, and I

2236
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 4: think that's really why maybe he went down that road.

2237
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I saw Art,

2238
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:51,600
Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't got any hate in my

2239
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 4: heart for him.

2240
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 1: I just it is what it is, just a little

2241
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: bit different now. Yeah, that stuff happens, man. I mean,

2242
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: Art is an emotional guy and he does, like say

2243
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot of things. And I'm sure it was tough

2244
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: for both of you, right, because you guys had a

2245
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 1: great relationship before the Titans, and he's a head coach

2246
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: as well, first time, and he's trying to figure out

2247
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: the best way and everybody knows like you don't win games,

2248
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna get fired. Sure, so he's probably dealing with

2249
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: like very similar stress as you were feeling that whole

2250
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: entire time. So that's gotta be really tough for you too.

2251
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: Pivoting back to when you're in for the draft, when

2252
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 1: did you know, like, Okay, I'm probably gonna be a

2253
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: Titan At some point do you think did you think

2254
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to Tampa? No, I knew I wasn't

2255
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: in that mix, but it seemed like he was like

2256
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: Jamis or Mark.

2257
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went down there. I met with love you

2258
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 4: coach Smith Jason like the GM, and I just didn't

2259
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 4: feel like I was kind of in the mix. I

2260
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 4: think they were just like, hey, it was like we

2261
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 4: want you to come in kind of meet you, get

2262
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 4: to know you a little bit, but check a box

2263
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 4: a little bit, which I was like, Okay, that's hey, man.

2264
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: You got you think that was you just I mean,

2265
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: you just want the heisman all that. I had no

2266
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: idea Jamis is their guy in the head already.

2267
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 4: I think when you have the first pick, like you

2268
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 4: have opportunities to really diagnose everything. And for whatever reason,

2269
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 4: maybe my tape or whatever it was, you know, but

2270
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 4: I didn't really think I was in that mix. But

2271
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 4: then what was really interesting was I get drafted to Tennessee.

2272
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 4: They pulled me, my agent and my marketing agent pulled

2273
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 4: me in the back and they're like, hey, don't don't

2274
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 4: put the hat on yet, don't put the jersey on yet,

2275
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 4: Like we don't really know exactly what's going to happen,

2276
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 4: like you might still end up getting moved. So yeah,

2277
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 4: So for like an hour, I didn't didn't take a picture,

2278
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 4: didn't do the media, waited and then did all that

2279
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 4: after it was like confirmed, but.

2280
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: So what was your agent and your marketing guy thinking, well,

2281
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: Philly with Chip, that's right. Yeah, yeah, he had the

2282
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 1: infamous quotea being like you, he went by past the

2283
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: house and realized it was too much money.

2284
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 4: See something like that. But I think that's what it was.

2285
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 4: I don't. I can't say for certain, but yeah, that

2286
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 4: was just kind of what happened. And then along the

2287
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 4: lines of that, when I got to Nashville, I didn't

2288
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 4: have a suit or anything. So I actually borrowed Wizards

2289
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 4: is like dress shirt and like put on a suit

2290
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 4: coat just to do the pictures and all that stuff

2291
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,600
Speaker 4: because I was I was so far in Hawaii, like

2292
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 4: to get over for the next day for the press conference,

2293
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 4: Like we flew like all night, so I didn't I

2294
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 4: didn't have time to actually get a suit. I didn't

2295
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 4: even own a suit. Really.

2296
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 3: I had a couple of friends the trophy winner does.

2297
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 4: I had a couple from the ceremonies. Don't get me wrong,

2298
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 4: but yeah, I didn't have a suit ready to go.

2299
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 1: Did Chip or anybody call you during that process, because

2300
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: obviously I had a good relationship, they did not.

2301
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 3: Isn't that weird? I feel like coming out of college

2302
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm thinking if Bo was like on a coaching a

2303
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 3: team or something, I feel like I would be like, hey,

2304
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 3: do you think I'm gonna get draft? Like what's the board? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

2305
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 3: what's the board saying? And I'm thinking like if I'm

2306
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 3: going to be a potential top five pick my head

2307
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 3: coach who I've had such an incredible relationship with during college,

2308
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 3: whin the highs, all the accolades that they got together,

2309
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 3: like you'd think like it would be there'd be some

2310
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 3: some communication. Yeah, you know what i mean, like, hey,

2311
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 3: what are you guys thinking out there in Philly?

2312
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,679
Speaker 1: Chips at Philly would love.

2313
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 3: To come play out for Philly. Come where'd you want

2314
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:14,560
Speaker 3: to go?

2315
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 4: Philly? I really actually I never never had a preference.

2316
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 1: I was like, no, seriously, but Chip Kelly, who you've

2317
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 1: already had so much success in his offense.

2318
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, he's probably thinking.

2319
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,719
Speaker 4: But I was like, probably really is awesome.

2320
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 3: You guys got messed up, I'm saying, coming out like

2321
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 3: no one knowing how how you were with Hawaii, being

2322
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 3: very homesick in organ then it's just such you know, Fay, Yeah,

2323
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 3: like you're still a kid. Like as she drafted, it's

2324
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 3: like an hour and half. I love to play for

2325
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 3: coach Kelly, but it's like no difference.

2326
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: At all the distance.

2327
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 4: That was the first thing when I got drafted. My

2328
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 4: mom looks at me, she was that is so far.

2329
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, sorry, Mom, Arizona or San Diego or something

2330
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: like that.

2331
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 4: Dude.

2332
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I remember when you got draft did I was at

2333
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium for like they were doing like a host

2334
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: show thing, and obviously, you know, I was massive boys

2335
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: of metten Burger and you know Met's personality. So when

2336
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 1: you got picked, I was like fuck. I was so

2337
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: mad that you were picked because I was like, I mind,

2338
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, Zach's gonna take us to the top man,

2339
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 1: He's the one, He's the one to get it done.

2340
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 1: And then you get picked whatever, I immediately leave the thing.

2341
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: I call Zach, I'm like where you eggs? Are him

2342
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: at my house? So I went and sat with him

2343
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 1: for a little bit. But I remember during it was

2344
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 1: a rookie mini camp. We're all kind of like peering

2345
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: out the winter, like, hey, what's this kid about? What's

2346
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: this Hawaiian guy all about? And you were zipping the

2347
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 1: ball in the field. I remember sitting there with Mett

2348
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 1: thinking of myself. It's so over. You are done, amigo,

2349
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 1: It is done. But Zach he was such a I mean,

2350
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:51,879
Speaker 1: how like, is there anybody like Zach Mettenberger.

2351
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 4: There isn't. It was I really I did enjoy my

2352
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 4: time with Matt, like obviously when you walk in the building, like,

2353
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 4: that's such a weird you know, not relationship.

2354
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 1: Could not have you been around Zach a couple of times,

2355
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: completely different personnality. Yeah, Zach's like, hey, watch me spin

2356
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: this bitch, and Marcus is like, I don't really want

2357
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: to be the center of prettention. I want to help everybody.

2358
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 4: Else out for sure.

2359
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,799
Speaker 3: Great, whatever you guys want to trust.

2360
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 1: Me, whatever you guys need me to do, I'm there.

2361
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 1: Exactually I'm gonna fucking like the world on fire.

2362
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 4: But that was I think that was what was cool.

2363
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 4: Like when I walked in there and you know, like

2364
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 4: Wiz kind of like gave me the job early on. Yeah,

2365
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 4: and I felt bad about it because I was like

2366
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 4: I didn't I hadn't even been here yet. And being

2367
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 4: around met like his personality, like I just kind of

2368
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 4: wanted to like not not disrupt, not like step on

2369
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 4: his toes really and being around him He was very

2370
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 4: almost welcoming, and he was just like, hey, man, I

2371
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 4: know you're not very vocal, but like if you need

2372
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 4: me to yell at somebody, like I'll do it for you.

2373
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 4: I was like, perfect, man, we're on the same day.

2374
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: Just imagine be like met sixty five, get him seventy seven.

2375
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 4: Can you help me? What was it?

2376
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: What was it like walking into that building Because you

2377
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: come from a place like this and then it was

2378
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: that was a huge shock for me. It's like going

2379
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 1: from college facilities to NFL facilities and being like it's

2380
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 1: kind of a dump.

2381
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think Washington has newer facilities now,

2382
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 3: but even going to Washington, it's like you have the

2383
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 3: kitchen set up and it's just like buffet style food

2384
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 3: where it just has a red, yellow, and green card

2385
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 3: on if it's okay to eat.

2386
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're taking what.

2387
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 3: You're doing, walks in like a basketball gym, you know

2388
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 3: what I mean?

2389
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, and it's it's I'm so yeah, a dump

2390
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: relative to NFL teams. So I'm not just specifically going

2391
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: at the Titans. I just remember going from like Michigan

2392
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: and like then I go here and I'm like, you

2393
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: guys got a cold to like it's around the corner.

2394
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 3: But we had the silver we had like the silver

2395
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 3: ones or like a rubber made tub as like the

2396
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 3: cold tubs that like a rack po and fletch would

2397
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:59,560
Speaker 3: set up, but not like an inground coldub whirlpool. It

2398
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 3: is a for it's a different world.

2399
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 1: The old cold tubs we had, you were there for

2400
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: when they went to the new setup.

2401
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 4: No, I didn't that. I was the only thing that

2402
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 4: was new. Was they kind of readid the locker room.

2403
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had those, but they.

2404
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 4: Read the locker room, but the bathroom wasn't done yet.

2405
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 1: Right, So you walked into a construction zone that already

2406
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: wasn't that great. So you probably had to be thinking

2407
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: yourself like this is.

2408
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 4: Well the original one that I walked into was the

2409
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 4: old one. Yeah, and I was like, okay, here we go.

2410
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 3: You know this is gonna have sauna.

2411
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: I don't think.

2412
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 4: No, we had nothing. We had nothing, or maybe we

2413
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 4: had a sauna, but I don't know if it was working.

2414
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: And they had those big boxy like lockers when you

2415
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: put your sh the thing, yeah, and you're like, well

2416
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:41,600
Speaker 1: this is such an eyesore. And it made that it

2417
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: made that like the area to walk through like so hard,

2418
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: like different point point.

2419
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 3: I mean even when I was there in eighteen, the

2420
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 3: saun was broken, like the entire year, just the steam room.

2421
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 1: Those were you there when the kid got cut and

2422
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 1: he pissed in the sauna?

2423
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 4: No?

2424
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 3: Were you?

2425
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 1: You weren't there.

2426
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 4: I don't remember that.

2427
01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 1: There was one kid, Yeah, he got cut, like I think,

2428
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 1: offway through camp, even before cuts and you walk we

2429
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: walked in the locker room like it's the most terrible

2430
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: in here, and somebody's like, yeah, I think it was

2431
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: host Yeah, somebody pissing the song at least some guy

2432
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 1: just like Peede on the Hot Sound of Coles And

2433
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: that was just like I'll see you guys later. But yeah,

2434
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 1: it's just different. It's just different going from college to

2435
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. So, like, how how was that for that

2436
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: that transition I was.

2437
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 4: I think I was just like so happy to be there.

2438
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 4: I never really think about it looking back on it,

2439
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 4: like it was it was like not the greatest, but yeah,

2440
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 4: it was what it is.

2441
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 3: What it was, you know, how was it keep it?

2442
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,919
Speaker 3: Like compartmentalizing playing ball to the best of your ability

2443
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 3: and also the expectation of being a second overall pick.

2444
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 3: I want to say you're the high I mean, oh, yeah,

2445
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 3: we did interview Jamis, but we didn't ask them about this.

2446
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 3: But I feel like being a high a high overall

2447
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 3: pick as a quarterback, I'm always curious, like, do you

2448
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 3: feel that pressure expectation?

2449
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, but I think I it was more

2450
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,759
Speaker 4: from myself, like more internal, Like I was more worried

2451
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 4: about like me living out to my own standard, which

2452
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 4: I think sometimes can be detrimental as well. Yeah, but yeah,

2453
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 4: I was so so focused on making sure I was

2454
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,919
Speaker 4: like trying to play to the best of my abilities,

2455
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 4: and maybe I lost a little bit of like being

2456
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 4: able to just enjoy like what was going on like

2457
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 4: stick out light. Yeah that first game.

2458
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Man.

2459
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 1: Obviously, Like we thought to Jamis and we're like, hey,

2460
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 1: did you have a like kind of like a rivalry

2461
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: with Marcus at all?

2462
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 4: He was like, I saw parts of it.

2463
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he was kind of talking about like how

2464
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 1: there was like kind of a rivalry Yeah, and like

2465
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: kind of wasn't then you guys like made amends or

2466
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: whatever he probably made.

2467
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 3: About you guys were like combine training. And the way

2468
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 3: he's thinking in his head is like he's like bucking up,

2469
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 3: kind of peacocking a little bit like it felt like

2470
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 3: a competition.

2471
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 1: Which just gotta be the funny.

2472
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 3: He's like Marcus wasn't really giving a whole lot and

2473
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 3: just knowing you. I'm thinking I wonder if Marcus was

2474
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 3: even thinking about.

2475
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 1: Even aware that a rivalry was taking place. Mark's like

2476
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: just doing his work of James is like f in

2477
01:48:58,920 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 1: the corner.

2478
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 4: Because like we never even like worked out together really

2479
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 4: so the guy that we trained with, Ryan Flaherty, one

2480
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 4: of my closest friends still to this day, but like

2481
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,799
Speaker 4: he like try to time it out where we were separate,

2482
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 4: because I think he felt like that was what it was,

2483
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 4: and I was I like literally was like, I don't

2484
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 4: that's not something that crosses my mind, Like Jamis, isn't

2485
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 4: there working out like cool? Like I don't care.

2486
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 3: Didn't Jamis say he would see Marcus working on be

2487
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 3: like I don't want to go in there. Am I

2488
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 3: just playing?

2489
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I think I think that might be like a little

2490
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 1: bit ye seasoned, like you put a little extra sauce

2491
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 1: on that. But there was definitely like a it was

2492
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: a Mark just workout. Yeah, that's ct brain for both

2493
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: of us because it was definitely ago. Yeah, but that

2494
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: first game, like it is, it is what it is.

2495
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about a little bit, but like.

2496
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 3: Did you do it again?

2497
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 1: Were you excited to kind of.

2498
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 4: Put it what?

2499
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 10: I was like, we got this, I mean, touchdown, that's

2500
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 10: this easy in the NFL. Adowna, No, No, that was.

2501
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 4: I think that was like the maybe the third or fourth,

2502
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 4: the one to Kendel. Yeah, yeah, that was like the

2503
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 4: third or fourth. My first throw I'll never forget. It

2504
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,600
Speaker 4: was roll pass. I understand a roll pass to the

2505
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 4: right and just run to the left. By the way

2506
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 4: it was, it was to the back. Was like the

2507
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 4: first read and you know, you're like, you're nervous. It's

2508
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 4: your first game playing an NFL. I was going number

2509
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 4: one the whole way, and I threw it to the

2510
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 4: Bishop and he got smoked by Levante David. I was like, sick, start, good,

2511
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 4: start start.

2512
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: We rolled them, man, and then literally halfway through that year,

2513
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 1: Wizard Hunt's gone and then your boy took the reins.

2514
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 4: Oh malarkey, Iro, do you want to talk about it?

2515
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 4: Absolutely all right?

2516
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:52,080
Speaker 3: So I now before we start, Malarkey's the one that

2517
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 3: you did not like.

2518
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 1: I am on record saying I despised Mike Malarkey. Okay, yeah,

2519
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm on record.

2520
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 3: Is that the one where you had to see patch

2521
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 3: and got it taken away?

2522
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 1: Actually, I said you and I should iron out. They

2523
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: took my seat and gave it to you. That's pretty crazy, right.

2524
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 4: I also a lot of fine money, that was I said,

2525
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 4: I also owe you a lot of fine money. No, no, no, no,

2526
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 4: that was.

2527
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: I love doing that. That was like my favorite thing

2528
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 1: in the world was bucking up for eight.

2529
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 3: That's funny. You're you got taken away mikets.

2530
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize that's what it was. I was like,

2531
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, here's just you got a sea patch.

2532
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, cool.

2533
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: So we played Houston. Let me relive this for a second.

2534
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 4: One.

2535
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 1: We played Houston, we get Donkey stomped in Houston and

2536
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: on the way home, I think before the wheels even

2537
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: touched with like, Ken's out of here. The next day

2538
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: news breaks Ken wizardhunts out, Michael Larkey, stepping as an

2539
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: interim head coach, text, uh no, I'm sitting at home

2540
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 1: and Mike Malarkey text me and he's like, hey, come

2541
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,600
Speaker 1: see me in my office tomorrow and I was like,

2542
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,640
Speaker 1: all right, this first day there, this is like the

2543
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: night after the night of the news breaking of Ken.

2544
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 1: It's like, this is like, so it's Monday, Tuesday. I'll

2545
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: walk in his office and I literally made the joke

2546
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: taking my seat away, and he goes, yeah, we're gonna

2547
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 1: take your seat away.

2548
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 3: Here's was Malarkey there with which.

2549
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: Marky was the tight Ends coach. Okay, all right, tight

2550
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 1: Ends coach, which Malarkey is a tight Ends coach all time.

2551
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: Guy like he had a good vibe about him. Was

2552
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:26,640
Speaker 1: like one of the boys boys type of thing. He

2553
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: got that crown placed on his head and a whole

2554
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 1: lot of things, a whole lot of things. His first

2555
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,680
Speaker 1: order of business and he you know what, his reasoning was.

2556
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: His reasoning he goes to me, He goes, hey, listen, like,

2557
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 1: obviously the team's not doing very well right now. You're

2558
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: a young guy, and this is a lot to be

2559
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: like putting on you to have a seat on your chest.

2560
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,599
Speaker 1: So like we're just gonna we're gonna take it. We'll

2561
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: let you focus on being you and give to somebody older.

2562
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 4: I don't think that was me though. I don't think

2563
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:54,560
Speaker 4: they gave it to me. I don't remember having this.

2564
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: Marcus was only four captains and they took mine off

2565
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:58,640
Speaker 1: and they gave one to you. Like, where do you

2566
01:52:58,680 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 1: think that c came from?

2567
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 3: How were you playing at this time?

2568
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 1: I was playing, all right. I think my rookie year

2569
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 1: was better. I played better my rookie year than I

2570
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: did my second. But I wasn't.

2571
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 3: Were you a distraction in the locker room?

2572
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I mean was I No,

2573
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 1: he was. He was a distraction playing.

2574
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 4: He was a distraction in the huddle.

2575
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: Yes.

2576
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 4: Delaney used to be like, Taylor, get over. Taylor be

2577
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 4: over there talking to who knows who, and we're like

2578
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 4: thirty seconds on the play clock and I'm over there

2579
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:26,560
Speaker 4: trying to call the play, and I'm like, we're like,

2580
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 4: where's Taylor? And Delaney's like, Taylor, get your ass over.

2581
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 1: A lot of shit talking. He was over there kind

2582
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 1: of spound like.

2583
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 4: He doesn't really need to know the play, Like Ben's

2584
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 4: gonna tell me what to do. Anyway.

2585
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 3: That did.

2586
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben kind of just did. Would say one thing,

2587
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,879
Speaker 1: we got it, we got it. We had a nice operation.

2588
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, he took the sea. I totally forgot that

2589
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 1: he gave it to you, and it literally didn't register.

2590
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 1: This is how dumb I am. It didn't register to

2591
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: like three weeks later that like, Oh, he told me

2592
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna give somebody older, and then he gave it

2593
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 1: to a guy that's a year like in his rookie season.

2594
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:58,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough.

2595
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 1: That was tough. I do think I got to see.

2596
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: I think a reason why I got to see was

2597
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Ken knew he was on the hop, like the chopping block,

2598
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: and I was his first round pick the year prior,

2599
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: and so there was like I think it was a

2600
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 1: politic game for him because even some of the older

2601
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: guys were like, what do you Yeah, I'm like, come on, man.

2602
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 3: But Marcus, is that Malarkey's one of his boys?

2603
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Marcus.

2604
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean Mike's been good to me, so I

2605
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 4: can't I can't talk to I thought we were I'm

2606
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 4: not gonna this is good. I'm gonna play this neutral

2607
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 4: game here.

2608
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 1: You know that is smart. But we beat the Saints

2609
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 1: in overtime. We did right after that and didn't want

2610
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: another one. I threw the luckiest touching on my life

2611
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 1: to Delaney. Oh my goodness, I was trying to throw

2612
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: it away they brought fire zone. I'm a rookie. I

2613
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: don't protections is just like whatever, you know, I'll figure

2614
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: it out later. And they basically brought fourd to this

2615
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 1: flourid to the side, and I was hot and I

2616
01:54:58,080 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: was just like, I'm just gonna try to throw it away,

2617
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 1: and I threw it in the direction of Delane who

2618
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 1: was running the sail route. When I threw it, I

2619
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't put enough on that. And then

2620
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm like watching the ball and I see Delaney start

2621
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: to track it, and then Jerry's bird I think, uh,

2622
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 1: I think it was Jerry's bird played at organ by

2623
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 1: the way, stud dude. He hits up in the air,

2624
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: Delaney catches it, scores like a sixty yard touchdown. I

2625
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 1: was like, wow, isn't the Saints are like still the

2626
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: Saints too?

2627
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Drew was there. That didn't the field

2628
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 4: goal go off the upright to go in the overtime

2629
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 4: for us with them like they missed it?

2630
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Remember I got it was was it Fassano or Stevens

2631
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: who won those Fossanoso. Yeah, fifteen was a tough year.

2632
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: It was a tough year, but you're probably you're just

2633
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: getting your feet.

2634
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 4: Well, I was just trying to was swimming, Yeah, just

2635
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 4: trying to tread water.

2636
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 1: You made feel that whole season.

2637
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 3: Did not.

2638
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 4: I did not, not at all when I was in Tennessee.

2639
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, but fifteen, like off the line, Ben wasn't

2640
01:55:55,840 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: there yet, Ben wasn't there. It was me Chance Andy Gaelic,

2641
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 1: Andy Gaelic, but schwanky before swanky Dolphins and then kind

2642
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: of a revolving door a right garden, left and right tackle,

2643
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 1: so you didn't have a whole lot of protection. And

2644
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 1: the offense we were running was insane for an offensive

2645
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: line that wasn't seasoned.

2646
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 4: We I have a funny story about that. We so

2647
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 4: quarterback wristband right, No, I didn't really, I never wore one.

2648
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 4: We were no how to hear. I was like, no

2649
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 4: how to on high school? So seon. I mean first game,

2650
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 4: the game he won, We did fine. Second game we're

2651
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 4: playing up in Cleveland, and the numbers for the wristband

2652
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 4: Aer won through whatever. I think there was like eighty

2653
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 4: ninety hundred maybe hundred plays or whatever, and I took

2654
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 4: a sack. It's like two minute and our two minute

2655
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 4: menu with Whiz was one through ten. So he's yelling

2656
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 4: four four four, So I'm not getting everybody in a huddle.

2657
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 4: I'm going off wristband. Four. Well, the first like five

2658
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 4: plays of the spander usually like specials or like you know,

2659
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 4: trick plays. So I don't know. It's like with like

2660
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 4: minute and ten seconds left before half, and I call

2661
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 4: this play and it's a reverse to Harry Douglas and

2662
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 4: I'm like getting ready to call, and like people are

2663
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 4: like looking at me, like you sure about this, and

2664
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 4: like that's what they said for, and I'm like, I

2665
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 4: take this nap, We do the reverse to Harry, we

2666
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 4: get tackled for like a five yard loss or whatever.

2667
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 4: I come off to the sideline. He goes, what were

2668
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 4: you doing?

2669
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 3: Why'd you call?

2670
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 4: I'm like you said four, Like I'm looking at play

2671
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 4: four on the wristband. He goes, oh, no, no, no,

2672
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 4: we're talking about play four on the two minute men.

2673
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 4: I was like, that's tough, man, that's.

2674
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 3: A five yard loss. Yeah, call the reverse god two

2675
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 3: minutes drill.

2676
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think sixteen man.

2677
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

2678
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Once we got Ben in, it seems like that's when

2679
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 1: everything kind of changed for offense. I would like talk

2680
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: about your relationship with Ben and how important. He was,

2681
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 1: Oh man for you at those times, because I had

2682
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 1: to grow to love Ben as opposed to like appreciating

2683
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 1: him for who he was in the beginning.

2684
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 4: Oh he was for me from the start. Was unbelievable.

2685
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 4: Guy that's played at a high level, knows the ins

2686
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 4: and outs of protections. Like I mean, my first my

2687
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 4: rookie year, like I had to go up there and

2688
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 4: like make a Mic point and like, which I was

2689
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 4: fine with, but like I didn't understand like trying to

2690
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 4: make Mike points like in the run game and like

2691
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 4: I'm over there, like I don't care, like the wills

2692
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 4: of Mike. I don't who cares? Yeah, I never understood

2693
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 4: any of that, you know. And so getting Ben into

2694
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 4: the team, like he controlled all that and we were

2695
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 4: able to like he taught me a lot about protections.

2696
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 4: We're able to get like on the same page. And

2697
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 4: a lot of times the protections I would be like, hey,

2698
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 4: you know, he's seeing one thing. I'd be like, hey, no, no,

2699
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 4: go left, go left, go left, and he would make

2700
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 4: all the calls. Everybody would switch up and we'd be good. So,

2701
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 4: I mean, Ben was heaven sent for me and I

2702
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 4: think for all of us. Really like he was just

2703
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 4: such a glue guy and thankful that I was able

2704
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 4: to play with him.

2705
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 3: Was it hard going through so many coaching changes?

2706
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 4: It was wasn't easy, I mean, but part of it is,

2707
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 4: I think again, it's like I was so naive to it.

2708
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 4: I was like, nah, man, like I'll make it work.

2709
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoever's in here, whatever.

2710
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 4: But looking back on it, like I think, on my eleven,

2711
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 4: this will be my eleventh season, I've had nine different

2712
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 4: play callers. Wild yeah, And I think, like looking back

2713
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 4: on it, like that is kind of crazy. And I was,

2714
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 4: this was what twenty eighteen we had Blaine Gabbert, my

2715
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 4: guy watch.

2716
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: Daddy Spinet, Yeah, hell yeah, just fighting for one more

2717
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 1: every year.

2718
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 4: Blaine. Blaine's awesome.

2719
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 1: He's got a great viob about him.

2720
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 4: He does, he does. And I remember we were sitting

2721
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 4: there one meeting and he was like, yeah, this is

2722
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 4: my eighth season, this is my eighth different play call

2723
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 4: and I was like, damn man, it's crazy. Like I'm

2724
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 4: on five and this is like four. It's like it's

2725
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 4: kind of crazy to think about.

2726
01:59:57,800 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about the tra transition to Washington. It feels

2727
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 3: like you found some footing there. You opted to go back.

2728
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 3: I know you were having your presser and talked about

2729
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, if you were to get an offer from

2730
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 3: another team, they would have had to have knocked it

2731
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 3: out of the park for you to leave, because you,

2732
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 3: you know, accepted. You love the role, you love the organization,

2733
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 3: you love the team. But talk about your time in Washington.

2734
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 4: Yes, it was awesome. I mean aside from maybe our

2735
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 4: first couple of years, Like, it was probably the most

2736
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 4: fun I had in the NFL, just from a day

2737
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 4: to day basis. And what was really cool was when

2738
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 4: I was in free agency last year and they called

2739
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 4: me up, like DQ's message to at least to me,

2740
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 4: and it sounds like it was like to a lot

2741
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 4: of other guys was I want to create the best

2742
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 4: environment to come play football. And I was like, okay,

2743
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 4: you know, sounds good, right, sounds good in theory. And

2744
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 4: when I when I showed up there being around Cliff,

2745
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 4: being around Tavita and the rest of the staff, like

2746
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 4: he really created this type of environment where it's just

2747
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 4: I have fun, cut loose, like be who you are

2748
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 4: and we're going to roll and win games. And from

2749
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 4: a person standpoint, he's like unbelievable, Like comes up to

2750
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 4: everybody's wife like kids, like he's very personable, and I

2751
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,040
Speaker 4: think that's where you get guys to just play hard

2752
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 4: for you, and being around him and being around the

2753
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 4: core group of guys like Zach and Bobby, and when

2754
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 4: you got a group that really just kind of enjoys

2755
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 4: being around each other, like you find ways to win.

2756
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 4: And I think for me, somebody else, if I had

2757
02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 4: an opportunity to go play, was going to have to

2758
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 4: really like kind of show me that was possible, because

2759
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 4: I feel like I play my best in that type

2760
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:45,840
Speaker 4: of environment. And I'm I'm fortunate and I'm excited to

2761
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 4: be back and I'm looking forward to kind of seeing

2762
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:49,280
Speaker 4: what we can make of it.

2763
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 3: When did you know that d had it?

2764
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny. Everyone kind of asked me that, like

2765
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 4: we you know, like OTAs, everyone's kind of like, yeah,

2766
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 4: you know, he looks good, like in camp, you know,

2767
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 4: look good. Everyone was yeah, you know, But I would

2768
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 4: say for me personally, it was probably against Cincinnati on

2769
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 4: Monday night, and like his demeanor the moment, like the

2770
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 4: moment was never too big for him, like he was

2771
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 4: ready to roll from the get go. And I watched

2772
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 4: him go and just like dissect the defense. And it

2773
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 4: was probably from my vantage point, probably one of the

2774
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 4: better games that I've seen a quarterback play. And whether

2775
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 4: it was running making guys miss to completing four fourth

2776
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 4: and five or fourth and six, to like keep drives

2777
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,960
Speaker 4: alive to score touchdowns, like he was unbelievable. And I

2778
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,440
Speaker 4: was like, if this kid can continue to do that

2779
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 4: or kind of play in that realm, like he's going

2780
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 4: to be really special. And he found a way kind

2781
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 4: of throughout the year to do that.

2782
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:48,080
Speaker 3: How was he in the film room as like a

2783
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:48,840
Speaker 3: student of the game.

2784
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very knowledgeable. And what's been cool for me

2785
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:56,120
Speaker 4: is like I've been able to just like from my

2786
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:58,360
Speaker 4: past experiences be like, hey, this is like something that

2787
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 4: happened to me, just be aware of it, and like

2788
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:04,920
Speaker 4: to see him recognize that and realize that and do

2789
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 4: maybe what I I saying. He was doing what I

2790
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:10,560
Speaker 4: was saying, but like just being able to like account

2791
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 4: that type of information and use it like was really

2792
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 4: cool for me. And it's pretty pretty spot on about

2793
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 4: how he is as a person, Like he comes in,

2794
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 4: works hard, goes about his business, and moves on. And

2795
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:22,760
Speaker 4: I think he's got a chance to be really good.

2796
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 3: Is he a vocal guy?

2797
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 4: Yes and no. And what's cool is like when you

2798
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 4: have a group of veterans you can kind of get

2799
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 4: you kind of encourage it, and towards the end of

2800
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 4: the year you could really see it from him. And

2801
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 4: what's been nice about DQ though, is he's like, don't

2802
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:43,280
Speaker 4: we don't ever want to be somebody else that you're not.

2803
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 4: And if you're not vocal, if you're not like, don't

2804
02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 4: force it, which I think for Jay has been really

2805
02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 4: good because then he kind of like he's able to

2806
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:55,360
Speaker 4: create that type of leadership for himself and is able

2807
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 4: to relate to guys and kind of get the most

2808
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 4: out of him.

2809
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:00,720
Speaker 3: What it Oh, sorry, go ahead, I was gonna say,

2810
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 3: what is it about d Q's culture. You talked about

2811
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 3: his intention, how he's personal, he's great with people, he

2812
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,760
Speaker 3: goes up to wives. What is it about like his

2813
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 3: day to day in the season, say, you drop a game.

2814
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 3: We've all been in the locker rooms where it's like

2815
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,160
Speaker 3: the urgency and maybe coaches kind of you know, the

2816
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 3: negative energy is kind of in the building. But what

2817
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 3: is it about d Q's culture on the day to day,

2818
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 3: like in the grind of the season, because anybody you

2819
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:26,440
Speaker 3: talk to about DQ, everybody talks about how great his

2820
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:26,960
Speaker 3: culture is.

2821
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 4: We hit a stretch last year where he lost three

2822
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 4: in a row. Did his demeanor at all changed, Not

2823
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 4: one bit? And his day to day is always the same,

2824
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 4: Like you know what you're gonna get on Monday, tell

2825
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 4: the truth, Monday, You're going you get the day off

2826
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, and it's fundamental Wednesday, it's turnover Thursday, and

2827
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 4: it's fast Fridays. And it's the same regardless if you're

2828
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 4: winning or not. So you're not showing up after blowing

2829
02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:57,320
Speaker 4: out whoever and getting a Monday off, Like it's we're

2830
02:04:57,400 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 4: gonna do the same exact thing, so we're regardless of

2831
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:04,000
Speaker 4: how the results are. And like his preparation and process

2832
02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:07,040
Speaker 4: remains the same, and a lot of that too, like

2833
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 4: is not football. It's kind of why, Like I've never

2834
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 4: been a part of a team where on Saturday he

2835
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 4: doesn't talk about football at all. And this is a

2836
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:19,640
Speaker 4: day before the game and you're sitting down and I

2837
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 4: remember the first week. I'm like, i mean, should we

2838
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:24,560
Speaker 4: like talk about like hey, Keith, the victory or you

2839
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 4: know some of these things?

2840
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, and.

2841
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:31,840
Speaker 4: He has Dylan Thompson, who shout out is like unbelievable,

2842
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 4: but he goes up there and he leads like a

2843
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 4: life lesson and like a talk about how you can

2844
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 4: become better men. And for me, like being a part

2845
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 4: of the NFL for ten years, like you never see

2846
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 4: that it's never been about that, But when you can

2847
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 4: step aside and realize that football is just a little

2848
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 4: bit part of what you do, it's not who you are.

2849
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:54,120
Speaker 4: I think you really kind of galvanize a group and

2850
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 4: guys really reacted to it. And I don't think it

2851
02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 4: was any surprise for any of us in that building

2852
02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 4: that how well we did and how far we went

2853
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 4: just because of a DQ and what he's about.

2854
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 3: I love that.

2855
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 1: That is beautiful. Like you, you brought up a point

2856
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 1: that a lot of football players say a lot, which

2857
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: is like football is what you do, is who you are.

2858
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,520
Speaker 1: How do you stop that from becoming your identity for you?

2859
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 4: I didn't. I still struggle with that, And I think

2860
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 4: from my transition in Tennessee after everything had kind of

2861
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:27,520
Speaker 4: fallen apart, like I was like didn't know what to do.

2862
02:06:28,040 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 4: Same with Atlanta, like I was, you know, it's funny,

2863
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 4: like you think you're able to learn from previous challenges obstacles,

2864
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 4: and I thought I did. But when everything had happened

2865
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, like I was like, man, this is all

2866
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 4: over again. Like I'm I'm pretty good, Like I don't

2867
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 4: need to do this football thing, Like it's just kind

2868
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 4: of it's tearing me apart. Like I was like over it.

2869
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 4: And it really led to me being in Philly with

2870
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 4: Howie in the GM and I kind of started talking

2871
02:06:56,640 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 4: to some like sports psychologists. My agent had recommended one

2872
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:05,160
Speaker 4: who I still talk to today, and how he was like,

2873
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 4: I went to Philly after Atlanta, Bro, it was like

2874
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 4: the worst camp I've ever had. I couldn't even hit

2875
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 4: a shallow round. I was like dirting flat routes like

2876
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 4: and how he like comes over and he's like, hey, man,

2877
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 4: I really just want you to like kind of dig

2878
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 4: into your mental side a little bit, and so I did,

2879
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 4: And really, I think through the course of that season,

2880
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 4: I kind of started to maybe get away from my

2881
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 4: identity as a football player and more as my identity

2882
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 4: as a you know, a husband, a father, a son,

2883
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 4: a brother. And it's so hard because I think as athletes,

2884
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 4: like we sit here and forever that's your sport or

2885
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:43,320
Speaker 4: whatever you do. That's like how you identify yourself and

2886
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 4: you sit in these meetings. The PA does all these

2887
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 4: meetings right like, oh, you know you're not You're not

2888
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 4: just a football player, and you like sit there like

2889
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:53,360
Speaker 4: I know I'm not like whatever, but like you really

2890
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:56,000
Speaker 4: don't know kind of until you have something kind of

2891
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 4: thrown in your face to realize like, oh maybe I

2892
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 4: am really kind of identified myself as at So for me,

2893
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 4: like I take call it an hour a week and

2894
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:10,240
Speaker 4: I talk and it's a little bit about football, like

2895
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 4: how can I get better mentally? But it's a lot

2896
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 4: of it's just like unleashing like things that are going on,

2897
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 4: whether it's me inside internally or like from like as

2898
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 4: a father or like just little things like that. And

2899
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:25,640
Speaker 4: it's kind of crazy to think about how much these

2900
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:29,520
Speaker 4: external things really affect your internal and being able to

2901
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 4: understand that internally, if you control kind of what how

2902
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 4: you feel and how you acted things like, you're going

2903
02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 4: to be better for it. So I was so easy

2904
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 4: for me throughout my time, especially in Tennessee, where like

2905
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 4: I would just shoulder everything like you can put it

2906
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 4: on me. I don't care, like I'll figure it out,

2907
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 4: and you don't really realize how much it affects you

2908
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:49,840
Speaker 4: until like maybe it's all said and done, you're like, dude,

2909
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 4: like I could have been a better teammate, I could

2910
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 4: have been a person depending on how you know it

2911
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 4: all would have would have played out. But yeah, I

2912
02:08:58,160 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 4: had one and I lost.

2913
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 1: It's okay, that's part of cutting podcast. Yeah, what are

2914
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: some of your fondest memories? Because like for me, when

2915
02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:08,720
Speaker 1: when I have you on the show, I just start

2916
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 1: racing in my brain about all the times we had

2917
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 1: in Tennessee and then Will jumps over to Commanders. I'm thinking,

2918
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 1: like how do I bring this back to Tennessee? And

2919
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 1: then we or I'm like, how do I bring this

2920
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 1: back to Tennessee? Because it's it's it's because having this

2921
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 1: conversation you you realize like how it ended, how tough

2922
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 1: it was for you. But still being in Nashville this day,

2923
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 1: like every single Titans fan is like, yo, market the

2924
02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 1: fucking Marcus Mary Goda, like everyone is still like sees

2925
02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 1: you as this when I talk to you now, and

2926
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 1: you're not seeing yourself as that at that time when

2927
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 1: everybody in Nashville is like still so proud of like

2928
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:48,080
Speaker 1: eight and they're like all about it, which is which

2929
02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 1: to me is like says a lot about you as

2930
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 1: a player, but it also says so much about your

2931
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:53,800
Speaker 1: character and how you were just talking about like shouldering

2932
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 1: things like I remember vividly like when things weren't going well,

2933
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 1: I would see you, I would w you, and you

2934
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 1: would never you were never emotional, And I think I

2935
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:04,640
Speaker 1: even said you one time it was like maybe you should.

2936
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 3: Like show a little bit more emotion his wife's price.

2937
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was one specific time and it was

2938
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: like towards the end where I remember we're like going out,

2939
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 1: like it was halftime, and I was like one of

2940
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 1: the last ones in the locker room and You're like

2941
02:10:15,680 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 1: let out a scream and like slam your fist on

2942
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 1: the on the locker and I remember thinking myself, good,

2943
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 1: like that's he needs that. And I think we ended

2944
02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:24,920
Speaker 1: up going like winning that game. But I want us

2945
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: to know like kind of your fond memories, because there's

2946
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 1: been a lot we talked about. We talked about a

2947
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:31,480
Speaker 1: lot of valleys here, but like it doesn't take away

2948
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: from like you, how good of a player you are,

2949
02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:35,880
Speaker 1: how much you've accomplished in your life. So I just

2950
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:36,960
Speaker 1: want to roll down memory, Lange.

2951
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 3: I like it.

2952
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 4: I like it. Gosh. One of my favorite memories.

2953
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 3: Wolverine.

2954
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: Is that a fond memory for you?

2955
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:50,560
Speaker 2: Man?

2956
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:52,760
Speaker 3: You're talking about Titans or Yeah?

2957
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 1: That's all I know, Likenessee.

2958
02:10:57,760 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 3: How do we bring it here?

2959
02:10:58,720 --> 02:10:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? How do we bring it back here?

2960
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2961
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:04,040
Speaker 1: I know, right exactly.

2962
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 3: Gosh.

2963
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 4: My favorite memories probably got to be jackson We played

2964
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 4: Jacksonville at home to get into the playoffs, and seventeen

2965
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:18,080
Speaker 4: was kind of up and down here for me, battling

2966
02:11:18,080 --> 02:11:20,160
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, Like I was kind of not

2967
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 4: playing great, and we had a fumbled exchange with Derek

2968
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 4: and Yannick ends up getting the ball and returns it

2969
02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:33,280
Speaker 4: for a touchdown, and I remember sitting like, dude, no way,

2970
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:36,920
Speaker 4: we're about to lose this game, like we we were

2971
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:38,400
Speaker 4: at the time. I think we're like eight and four

2972
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:40,240
Speaker 4: before we went to the West Coast, and I was

2973
02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:43,080
Speaker 4: like we were sitting there trying to just scratching claw

2974
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:45,880
Speaker 4: to get in. And I remember we get to, we

2975
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 4: get the ball back, We're just trying to hold the lead,

2976
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 4: and it was third and five or third and six

2977
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 4: and took the snap. I probably could have thrown the

2978
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 4: Lanny the ball. I mean, never wrong throwing de Laney

2979
02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 4: the ball, but I scrambled and I took off to

2980
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:03,280
Speaker 4: the left and I ended up getting the first down

2981
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 4: and I remember sliding and looking up to the stand.

2982
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:08,840
Speaker 4: I was trying to find I was trying to find

2983
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:11,360
Speaker 4: my family, and I like kind of spiked the ball.

2984
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:13,080
Speaker 4: I was kind of like the most emotional thing I've

2985
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:15,800
Speaker 4: ever done, you know. I was just like for all

2986
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 4: that was going on that year for me personally, just

2987
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:22,760
Speaker 4: being hurt, not playing well, like I was like kind

2988
02:12:22,760 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 4: of threw the ball down, was like, yeah, I know

2989
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:27,160
Speaker 4: I can still do this. And I remember getting that

2990
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 4: first down and Delaney had to grab me because he

2991
02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:31,600
Speaker 4: thought I was gonna say something that I think it

2992
02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:32,879
Speaker 4: was church maybe something.

2993
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:36,080
Speaker 1: Like that, because you did do the stair down, but

2994
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:37,320
Speaker 1: it was nothing to him.

2995
02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 4: It was nothing to him. I just had so much

2996
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:42,000
Speaker 4: emotion built up, I think from kind of that year

2997
02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 4: and seventeen, but that's a fond memory for me because

2998
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:49,080
Speaker 4: it was like, regardless of what was going on, like

2999
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 4: we still find a way to win, and like Delaney

3000
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:56,040
Speaker 4: being there having my back, having making sure I was

3001
02:12:56,080 --> 02:12:58,400
Speaker 4: like not doing too much, but like, hey, we got

3002
02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:00,680
Speaker 4: another game to play and like us to get in.

3003
02:13:00,920 --> 02:13:03,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was like maybe a while

3004
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:06,360
Speaker 4: since we had been in the playoffs for Tennessee. So

3005
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:08,240
Speaker 4: being able to do that at home in Nashville was

3006
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:11,120
Speaker 4: was a special moment for me. And then I mean,

3007
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,400
Speaker 4: who can forget the Kansas City game? Like that was wild?

3008
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it twenty one three.

3009
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. At a halftime we should have never

3010
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 4: won that game.

3011
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: I never should have won that game, should have never

3012
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 1: won that you threw a touchdown pass to yourself.

3013
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember where I was when you guys

3014
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:28,760
Speaker 3: came back, Like I was in my buddy John Wigger.

3015
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:31,600
Speaker 3: I was in his basement. We were playing the Last Name, Yeah,

3016
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 3: and we were we were playing pool, and I remember

3017
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 3: seeing a halftime like this isn't even a game, right,

3018
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:38,680
Speaker 3: And then by the end of it's like these motherfuckers

3019
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:42,040
Speaker 3: came back and won, Yes, beat them.

3020
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 4: That was. That's another really fun memory.

3021
02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:44,120
Speaker 3: That was.

3022
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:46,240
Speaker 1: That was the coldest game I've ever played in my life.

3023
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:47,960
Speaker 1: That was. That was brutal.

3024
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 4: That stretch was cold. Jacksonville home was cold. Jacksonville at

3025
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:54,120
Speaker 4: home to Kansas City. Then we went to New England,

3026
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:59,480
Speaker 4: got donkeyed, we got murdered. Bro Phillips super and came

3027
02:13:59,600 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 4: up to me. It was like, I don't know, we're

3028
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 4: losing whatever it was, and he.

3029
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:06,360
Speaker 3: Was, bro, I'm open down the middle.

3030
02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:09,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, Philip, it doesn't matter.

3031
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:14,360
Speaker 1: Bro, It's over. It is so done. That Kansas City

3032
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 1: game was awesome. Yes, do you ever regret whenever we

3033
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:20,480
Speaker 1: tried to play in tackleligible place For me, You're throwing

3034
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 1: the ball too fast in practice and I would drop

3035
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:24,760
Speaker 1: it and then they would take I know, but there

3036
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:27,680
Speaker 1: was a lot of opportunities before then as well. And

3037
02:14:27,800 --> 02:14:30,240
Speaker 1: I specifically remember you rocketing a few just above my

3038
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:32,760
Speaker 1: head and it felt very intentional.

3039
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:36,600
Speaker 3: There was.

3040
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:41,000
Speaker 4: It was more just a laugh at practice, But then.

3041
02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:42,960
Speaker 1: I felt my I felt my dreams like slipping from

3042
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:45,760
Speaker 1: my fingers every single time you do that football.

3043
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:47,440
Speaker 3: Mark sing if he can handle these, he'll get the.

3044
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:49,520
Speaker 4: Wats wanted them to go confidence, you know, I know,

3045
02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:53,400
Speaker 4: I was so nervous, That's all I got going back

3046
02:14:53,440 --> 02:14:56,200
Speaker 4: to a can I come real quick. So we were

3047
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:59,440
Speaker 4: sitting there and we had this tech tackle eligible play

3048
02:14:59,480 --> 02:15:02,320
Speaker 4: against the Colts, and we had practiced it all week

3049
02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:04,680
Speaker 4: and he had dropped it. I remember going into it.

3050
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:08,440
Speaker 4: You never counted it, and he I remember coming in

3051
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:11,240
Speaker 4: through the headset and I'm like, I'm just gonna throw

3052
02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:13,720
Speaker 4: it at his body so he can't drop it. So

3053
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:15,440
Speaker 4: I come out of it, come out of the fake,

3054
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 4: and I see him.

3055
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 3: Go like this.

3056
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:18,280
Speaker 4: His eyes are so big at me like.

3057
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:21,840
Speaker 1: This, Hey, I was so nervous.

3058
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 4: I never he's never nervous want anything, and he was.

3059
02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 4: I just that was a I can still remember his

3060
02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 4: eyes like this. And I threw like a little like

3061
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 4: just at his at his stomach, like.

3062
02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:33,240
Speaker 1: You're throwing to your like you're throwing to rue, trying

3063
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:34,920
Speaker 1: to keep trying to catch a ball for the first time.

3064
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:36,600
Speaker 1: Muffined it right in there.

3065
02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 4: Thank you, turn around, score a test sound yeah, go on.

3066
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Speaker 3: I would like to dive back into a valley right here.

3088
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:53,800
Speaker 3: Here's why, Here's why. What I appreciate so much about

3089
02:16:53,800 --> 02:16:58,320
Speaker 3: this conversation is you're such an accomplished athlete, Like it

3090
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:00,879
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you're a heisman, a second overall pick,

3091
02:17:00,959 --> 02:17:02,920
Speaker 3: Like you've had an eleven year career, Like you have

3092
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:06,040
Speaker 3: an incredible life that I know you're grateful for and

3093
02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 3: getting like having these conversations, Like a lot of stuff

3094
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:12,879
Speaker 3: that you consume is about everybody's highlights. And I'm appreciative

3095
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:15,080
Speaker 3: that you're so transparent in these low moments because I

3096
02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:17,400
Speaker 3: feel like everybody watching like it goes through stuff like

3097
02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:20,040
Speaker 3: when you're talking about getting banched or this happening, Like

3098
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:22,560
Speaker 3: in my brain, there's like something you're speaking to that

3099
02:17:22,640 --> 02:17:24,840
Speaker 3: I'm relating to in my journey. And I feel like

3100
02:17:24,879 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 3: everybody does that, and it doesn't matter how high you are.

3101
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:30,960
Speaker 3: It's like everybody goes through this human factor of bringing

3102
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:34,320
Speaker 3: it back to internal talking with the psychologists, like getting

3103
02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:37,160
Speaker 3: over whatever those mental blocks are to allow your body

3104
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:39,680
Speaker 3: to do what it's capable of doing. So that's why

3105
02:17:39,720 --> 02:17:42,480
Speaker 3: I love like talking about the valleys and going to

3106
02:17:43,000 --> 02:17:45,360
Speaker 3: the time when you were talking about in Philly, was

3107
02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:47,600
Speaker 3: there a moment where you're talking to your wife and

3108
02:17:47,680 --> 02:17:49,760
Speaker 3: talking about like retiring and not wanting to do it

3109
02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:52,560
Speaker 3: anymore and that was the place you were thinking about, Hey,

3110
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:55,360
Speaker 3: once its training camps over, Yeah, keeping gave the not

3111
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:56,359
Speaker 3: but I think I'm gonna.

3112
02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 4: Hang it up. Yeah, I mean I was feeling that

3113
02:17:58,200 --> 02:18:02,600
Speaker 4: after Atlanta, just kind of how everything transpired there and

3114
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 4: the negative kind of you know, you try to say like, ah,

3115
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:09,680
Speaker 4: nothing gets to you right, like I I mean, I

3116
02:18:09,680 --> 02:18:11,880
Speaker 4: don't even have social media, but like that stuff was

3117
02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:14,640
Speaker 4: getting to me about like, oh, he's a quitter this

3118
02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:16,800
Speaker 4: and that, like he and I was like, I've never

3119
02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:19,959
Speaker 4: been that's never been who I am, never been labeled

3120
02:18:19,959 --> 02:18:21,560
Speaker 4: as that, and it's like it felt like it was

3121
02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:25,440
Speaker 4: attacking my character and my integrity, and so I was like, man,

3122
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:27,680
Speaker 4: I was like, f this. I don't I don't need this,

3123
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:30,120
Speaker 4: Like why would I Why would I just set myself

3124
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:33,480
Speaker 4: up for that? And like after Atlanta, I had met

3125
02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:36,720
Speaker 4: with the sports eychologists who I'm currently working with, and

3126
02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:40,080
Speaker 4: you know, we felt like we're kind of overcoming some

3127
02:18:40,160 --> 02:18:44,120
Speaker 4: of these hurdles, but it's really not until you go

3128
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:46,560
Speaker 4: through it again or like you go and you're actually

3129
02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:48,440
Speaker 4: out there on the field, do you realize like, wait,

3130
02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:51,320
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not okay, you know, like my anxiety,

3131
02:18:51,440 --> 02:18:55,720
Speaker 4: like these these things are still bothering me. And so really,

3132
02:18:55,879 --> 02:18:58,680
Speaker 4: like I mean, I was like, we had this open

3133
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:01,720
Speaker 4: we had this in stadium practice when I was in Philly,

3134
02:19:02,560 --> 02:19:04,840
Speaker 4: and which is wild by the way they sell those out.

3135
02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:08,520
Speaker 3: So the practices at Philly, Oh, how many people.

3136
02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:10,600
Speaker 4: Whatever the stadium holds. I think it was like seventy

3137
02:19:10,640 --> 02:19:13,040
Speaker 4: some thousand people. The whole stadium for the It was

3138
02:19:13,080 --> 02:19:16,360
Speaker 4: like an open scrimmage and really like you know, you

3139
02:19:16,440 --> 02:19:18,280
Speaker 4: had open practices or whatever, but like that was the

3140
02:19:18,320 --> 02:19:20,360
Speaker 4: first time I had been in a stadium full of

3141
02:19:20,400 --> 02:19:23,760
Speaker 4: people like that since the whole thing in Atlanta, and

3142
02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:26,360
Speaker 4: bro I could not I mean I could not throw ball,

3143
02:19:26,640 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 4: could not throw ball. I was like my my fear

3144
02:19:30,280 --> 02:19:32,400
Speaker 4: of my anxiety, like everything was just like through the roof.

3145
02:19:33,400 --> 02:19:36,680
Speaker 4: And so I ended up just running around like I

3146
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:39,119
Speaker 4: was like they were calling plays and I was just scrambling,

3147
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,240
Speaker 4: just trying to like move the ball. And I remember

3148
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 4: coming out of that game or the scrimmage and I

3149
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:47,280
Speaker 4: was like, dude, I'm this is not it. I don't care.

3150
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:50,720
Speaker 4: I remember looking at my wife like I'm good on this,

3151
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:54,560
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't need it, and it just

3152
02:19:54,680 --> 02:19:56,840
Speaker 4: kind of it compiled like I went into the next

3153
02:19:56,879 --> 02:20:00,960
Speaker 4: preseason game against Baltimore, did okay Cleveland? I was like

3154
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:03,480
Speaker 4: a mess and I was like after the Cleveland I

3155
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:06,320
Speaker 4: really thought I wasn'tetting cut. I was playing so bad

3156
02:20:06,920 --> 02:20:08,880
Speaker 4: and I was just like almost in my mind, I

3157
02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:10,280
Speaker 4: was like hoping, Like I was like I hope they

3158
02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:12,280
Speaker 4: just cut me. And I just like walk off with

3159
02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:15,960
Speaker 4: it and move on. And that's when how he kind

3160
02:20:15,959 --> 02:20:19,080
Speaker 4: of sat me down after the the Cleveland game, was like, hey,

3161
02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm going to try to kind of help you out here.

3162
02:20:21,800 --> 02:20:25,520
Speaker 4: And through that process, through that year working with g

3163
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:29,000
Speaker 4: my sports psychologist, like I really kind of just started

3164
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:32,920
Speaker 4: to separate myself from what that anxiety and that fear is,

3165
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:37,040
Speaker 4: and a lot of it is is external. A lot

3166
02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:39,320
Speaker 4: of it is like you're so worried about what maybe

3167
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:41,560
Speaker 4: other people are thinking about you that you don't really

3168
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:44,160
Speaker 4: realize that that's affecting who you are and what you're about.

3169
02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:48,560
Speaker 4: And my nature as a people pleaser I think kind

3170
02:20:48,600 --> 02:20:51,080
Speaker 4: of really sets that off. Like I naturally want to

3171
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:55,200
Speaker 4: be liked. I want people to appreciate me as a person.

3172
02:20:56,000 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 4: So when something that I identify with, specifically football, isn't

3173
02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 4: allowing me to do that and people are like, man,

3174
02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 4: you suck, like you're not worth the you know, you're

3175
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:06,959
Speaker 4: not worth the shit, Like then I'm like, well, if

3176
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:10,160
Speaker 4: I'm not able to be liked because of the one

3177
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:12,520
Speaker 4: thing that I feel i'm good at, then I'm kind

3178
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:16,600
Speaker 4: of like lost and being able to really kind of

3179
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:19,400
Speaker 4: realize that and take a step away from it and

3180
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:23,480
Speaker 4: be around. Really, Alex Tanny was with me, like help

3181
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:26,320
Speaker 4: me through that. Brian Johnson who's on staff for the Commanders,

3182
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:28,280
Speaker 4: like they all kind of helped me through that avenue

3183
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:30,879
Speaker 4: to where like I played in the last game against

3184
02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:33,160
Speaker 4: the Giants. Jay had gotten hurt before the playoff game

3185
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,640
Speaker 4: and didn't. I played okay, but like I was like

3186
02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 4: the first time I can remember like telling kill me

3187
02:21:38,959 --> 02:21:41,120
Speaker 4: like it is the first time I played like somewhat

3188
02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 4: free since really college. And I think a lot of

3189
02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:46,280
Speaker 4: that was because there was a lot of expectations he

3190
02:21:46,360 --> 02:21:48,640
Speaker 4: came to Tennessee. When I got to the Raiders, like

3191
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,320
Speaker 4: I was playing in my hometown, like there's expectations there.

3192
02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:54,360
Speaker 4: Then when you go to Atlanta, it's like you know,

3193
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:56,680
Speaker 4: you're you're asked to be the guy there and it

3194
02:21:56,800 --> 02:21:59,760
Speaker 4: just kind of re kind of does that whole thing again.

3195
02:22:00,320 --> 02:22:02,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,

3196
02:22:02,520 --> 02:22:06,800
Speaker 4: like I had to really come to terms with the

3197
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:08,960
Speaker 4: fear and the anxiety that I was dealing with and

3198
02:22:09,080 --> 02:22:11,760
Speaker 4: that I needed to be able to communicate those things

3199
02:22:12,360 --> 02:22:14,200
Speaker 4: because it did affect me and it affected how I

3200
02:22:14,320 --> 02:22:14,680
Speaker 4: was playing.

3201
02:22:16,400 --> 02:22:18,120
Speaker 3: Take a moment to shout out your wife, because you're

3202
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:20,720
Speaker 3: somebody who is Probably when you're in front of everybody

3203
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:23,200
Speaker 3: else or in the locker room, you can't really see

3204
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:25,280
Speaker 3: what the emotion is or what's going on with Marcus.

3205
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:27,600
Speaker 3: You're a quiet guy, but I'm sure you're having these

3206
02:22:27,640 --> 02:22:31,440
Speaker 3: conversations with your wife through the ups and downs, and

3207
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:34,280
Speaker 3: how pivotal was she through all this as an athlete too.

3208
02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:36,280
Speaker 4: Here, you're gonna make me cry on this podcast, and

3209
02:22:36,320 --> 02:22:36,800
Speaker 4: I want to do that.

3210
02:22:38,560 --> 02:22:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll cry with you, I promise.

3211
02:22:45,080 --> 02:22:47,480
Speaker 4: She's Yeah, I mean everything that I could ever ask for.

3212
02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:52,960
Speaker 4: She was an athlete herself, which I think for us

3213
02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:56,840
Speaker 4: has been great because she understands the valleys and understands

3214
02:22:56,879 --> 02:23:01,200
Speaker 4: the peaks, and very very fortunate. She's an unbelievable mother,

3215
02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:05,560
Speaker 4: which I think has made me realize how much I

3216
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:07,480
Speaker 4: even love her more, because I don't think you really

3217
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:11,400
Speaker 4: realize until your significant other has maybe a child, or

3218
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:14,240
Speaker 4: that you really realize like how much you really do

3219
02:23:14,360 --> 02:23:18,640
Speaker 4: care about them. So, yeah, we've been through a lot.

3220
02:23:21,160 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 4: She is kind of the yang to the yang. I

3221
02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:26,280
Speaker 4: always joke that she's the social one and I'm not.

3222
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:29,320
Speaker 4: She's the one that everyone likes and I'm not. But

3223
02:23:30,320 --> 02:23:33,760
Speaker 4: very very fortunate and yeah, blessed to have her in

3224
02:23:33,800 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 4: my life.

3225
02:23:34,480 --> 02:23:34,920
Speaker 3: I love that.

3226
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:35,840
Speaker 4: That's beautiful.

3227
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:37,720
Speaker 3: Just wait for.

3228
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:44,360
Speaker 1: I said a couple of times before we started this podcast,

3229
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:46,080
Speaker 1: like you can come sit down. She said, no, I'm good.

3230
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll give you a mic, no doubt, because I'm

3231
02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:52,760
Speaker 3: fascinated me. Is there anything you do want to say? Yeah,

3232
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:59,760
Speaker 3: don't let her get going, dude, congrats on two kids.

3233
02:23:59,800 --> 02:24:00,600
Speaker 4: Man, thank you?

3234
02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:03,160
Speaker 3: How did that throw a wrinkle in everything? While you're

3235
02:24:03,160 --> 02:24:05,680
Speaker 3: going through all these ebbs and flows, no doubt, trying

3236
02:24:05,720 --> 02:24:08,040
Speaker 3: to be president at home, also trying to pour into

3237
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:10,760
Speaker 3: your craft and get back, you know, out of the

3238
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:11,920
Speaker 3: funk that you were in. For sure.

3239
02:24:12,000 --> 02:24:16,840
Speaker 4: I think what really kind of set me off maybe

3240
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:21,520
Speaker 4: a little bit, was after having Makaiah in Atlanta and

3241
02:24:21,920 --> 02:24:25,480
Speaker 4: had everything that had happened. I can just remember sitting

3242
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:28,840
Speaker 4: there holding her and thinking about, man, I should have

3243
02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:31,320
Speaker 4: done this on this play, or I shouldn't have thrown this,

3244
02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:33,880
Speaker 4: or I wish I would have checked to this, And

3245
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,520
Speaker 4: then I'm sitting there like five minutes lao, like, dude,

3246
02:24:36,520 --> 02:24:38,600
Speaker 4: there's something wrong with this, you know what I mean?

3247
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:41,120
Speaker 4: Like I'm sitting there holding my child who's maybe a

3248
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:45,480
Speaker 4: week old, and I'm thinking about decisions and plays that

3249
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:49,959
Speaker 4: I did wrong, and that's when I was like really searching.

3250
02:24:50,040 --> 02:24:52,240
Speaker 4: That's when I ended up getting a sports psychologist because

3251
02:24:52,240 --> 02:24:55,320
Speaker 4: I was like, there's not like, there's there's nothing in

3252
02:24:55,360 --> 02:24:58,080
Speaker 4: this world that should take me away from her, and

3253
02:24:58,760 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 4: it was I was like, it's not for me. It

3254
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:07,840
Speaker 4: wasn't worth it. So they've been a great perspective for me,

3255
02:25:08,360 --> 02:25:10,560
Speaker 4: and I think it's really helped me kind of iron

3256
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:12,240
Speaker 4: out a lot of that fear and a lot of

3257
02:25:12,320 --> 02:25:15,600
Speaker 4: that anxiety because I don't want my kids to be

3258
02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:19,080
Speaker 4: afraid to talk about it if they do have it right, Like,

3259
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:22,400
Speaker 4: I want my kids to be able to be vulnerable

3260
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:27,280
Speaker 4: and be open to having conversations, whether it's with us

3261
02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:29,600
Speaker 4: or with other people, because I think that's how we

3262
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:34,240
Speaker 4: all internally grow. So I think for me it's been

3263
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:37,600
Speaker 4: the biggest blessing because it's helped me kind of overcome

3264
02:25:37,640 --> 02:25:39,160
Speaker 4: a lot of these things that I've been doing.

3265
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:41,040
Speaker 3: With Yeah, I love it.

3266
02:25:41,560 --> 02:25:44,520
Speaker 1: Having kids is change change. Yeah, And I get what

3267
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:47,760
Speaker 1: you're saying too with the like I remember having Win

3268
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:50,960
Speaker 1: and she was born in July fifth, and then a

3269
02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:52,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks that I'm in camp and I would

3270
02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:55,560
Speaker 1: get down in camp and I'd be thinking about tomorrow's

3271
02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:58,720
Speaker 1: practice or the film I mess up this play right,

3272
02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:03,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's so consuming, and when football becomes

3273
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:05,200
Speaker 1: that consuming, it takes away from the fun. It takes

3274
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:06,640
Speaker 1: away from the reason why you started playing the game

3275
02:26:06,640 --> 02:26:09,080
Speaker 1: in the first place. It's so hard to get out

3276
02:26:09,160 --> 02:26:13,720
Speaker 1: of that mental gymnastic of how tough, like the smallest

3277
02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:15,400
Speaker 1: things can set you off when they used to not

3278
02:26:15,480 --> 02:26:15,760
Speaker 1: at all.

3279
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:19,680
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, man, I yeah, because there's parts of me

3280
02:26:19,720 --> 02:26:22,960
Speaker 3: that feels like I got lucky having RUE because we

3281
02:26:23,080 --> 02:26:25,280
Speaker 3: had our first around the same time as Aos actually

3282
02:26:25,360 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 3: about to go out to Atlanta, but even leaving however

3283
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:32,440
Speaker 3: old rou was at that time and feeling like, man,

3284
02:26:33,080 --> 02:26:36,440
Speaker 3: it kind of sucks, like hey, shout out NFL moms

3285
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:38,959
Speaker 3: and wives that are out there, sure because just knowing

3286
02:26:39,080 --> 02:26:42,360
Speaker 3: that what we pour like talking for myself and then

3287
02:26:42,440 --> 02:26:44,480
Speaker 3: you probably now being out of the league, like what

3288
02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:47,160
Speaker 3: you have to pour into a profession like this at

3289
02:26:47,560 --> 02:26:50,400
Speaker 3: a level that you've obsessed about for your entire life

3290
02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:53,960
Speaker 3: and knowing how that can like you know, again, I

3291
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:56,480
Speaker 3: feel like I'm like thankful that I had RUE kind

3292
02:26:56,480 --> 02:26:58,960
Speaker 3: of after the fact because of how much you have

3293
02:26:59,080 --> 02:27:01,760
Speaker 3: to pour into everything at home and knowing that, you know,

3294
02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:05,160
Speaker 3: your unbelievable wife has to sacrifice a lot of stuff

3295
02:27:05,200 --> 02:27:07,960
Speaker 3: for us to chase our dream. And it's when I

3296
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:10,040
Speaker 3: was thinking about going out to Atlanta or playing, It's like, damn,

3297
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:12,360
Speaker 3: she's gonna have to do all this stuff that you

3298
02:27:12,600 --> 02:27:14,200
Speaker 3: know in the off season you have to help out

3299
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:16,000
Speaker 3: on You're there, You're intentional, You're all of.

3300
02:27:16,040 --> 02:27:18,600
Speaker 4: It absolutely well. Like I don't mean to cut you off,

3301
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:21,040
Speaker 4: but like that's like right now, right like I'm we

3302
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:24,440
Speaker 4: start April twenty second, and I'm not going to move

3303
02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:26,680
Speaker 4: my entire family out there for seven weeks or eight

3304
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:28,920
Speaker 4: weeks of the OTA period, So like she's going to

3305
02:27:28,959 --> 02:27:33,279
Speaker 4: be here in Oregon for Monday through Thursdays by herself,

3306
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:35,720
Speaker 4: and it's basically she becomes like a single mother, right

3307
02:27:36,320 --> 02:27:38,840
Speaker 4: and then I come pop in on Friday for the weekends.

3308
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:41,120
Speaker 4: And you know, it's just I don't think a lot

3309
02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:43,760
Speaker 4: of people understand like what that is and how that

3310
02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:46,280
Speaker 4: operates really on a day to day basis for a

3311
02:27:46,320 --> 02:27:48,840
Speaker 4: lot of these families, because it's not just me, you know,

3312
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:51,960
Speaker 4: I mean guys like Zach Ertz and Bobby Wigner, like

3313
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:55,119
Speaker 4: they have kids, you know, that are on the West

3314
02:27:55,160 --> 02:27:57,440
Speaker 4: Coast that they're going to be traveling back and forth too. Yeah,

3315
02:27:58,560 --> 02:28:01,160
Speaker 4: and it's just one kind of sees the end product

3316
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:03,920
Speaker 4: on Sundays, but like it is, it's it is strenuous

3317
02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:08,440
Speaker 4: on the families, and to have someone solid at home

3318
02:28:08,480 --> 02:28:09,880
Speaker 4: to be able to take care of those things is

3319
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:10,760
Speaker 4: really important.

3320
02:28:10,879 --> 02:28:13,040
Speaker 1: It's such a unique balance of like having gratitude for

3321
02:28:13,080 --> 02:28:15,280
Speaker 1: being able to do something that one percent of one

3322
02:28:15,280 --> 02:28:17,560
Speaker 1: percent get to do right and also being as present

3323
02:28:17,640 --> 02:28:19,760
Speaker 1: as you possibly can when you do get home, because

3324
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:21,720
Speaker 1: it's just like you got to turn like turn that

3325
02:28:21,760 --> 02:28:22,120
Speaker 1: switch on.

3326
02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:23,680
Speaker 3: And coming home and probably want to kind of talk

3327
02:28:23,720 --> 02:28:25,680
Speaker 3: about your day or practice, and you're then you kind

3328
02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:26,640
Speaker 3: of like check yourself like.

3329
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:29,840
Speaker 1: Right hip side too. Like I mean, Taylor had to

3330
02:28:29,879 --> 02:28:32,480
Speaker 1: deal with that, you know, especially when I had win

3331
02:28:33,879 --> 02:28:36,480
Speaker 1: shortly after that was like the ACL the bad season

3332
02:28:36,520 --> 02:28:38,280
Speaker 1: and the like, so there was just like so much

3333
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:40,600
Speaker 1: turmoil and I was a shell of myself and I

3334
02:28:40,640 --> 02:28:42,720
Speaker 1: would remember going like my knee would be hurting, I

3335
02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:44,840
Speaker 1: have a bad game or something like that. And then

3336
02:28:44,840 --> 02:28:46,440
Speaker 1: I go into the next week and have practice on

3337
02:28:46,480 --> 02:28:48,640
Speaker 1: a Wednesday and come home and she's like, today was tough,

3338
02:28:48,680 --> 02:28:51,280
Speaker 1: and selfishly, I'm thinking of myself like, bro, you don't

3339
02:28:51,320 --> 02:28:53,720
Speaker 1: know how tough this is, Like you know what I'm saying,

3340
02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:58,520
Speaker 1: Like obviously what they're doing is I know, I'm truly

3341
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 1: trying to be as honest as possible. I was mentally

3342
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:02,920
Speaker 1: sure because I sit there and be like, bro, this

3343
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:05,119
Speaker 1: ship doesn't work and I have to go do things

3344
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:07,440
Speaker 1: that this needs to work for and it's just like

3345
02:29:07,640 --> 02:29:10,800
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy how selfish you can get if you

3346
02:29:11,000 --> 02:29:13,240
Speaker 1: like allow yourself to the Definitely, like towards the end

3347
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:15,360
Speaker 1: of my career, I was like I could look back

3348
02:29:15,360 --> 02:29:17,320
Speaker 1: at that and be like wow, like I was very

3349
02:29:17,400 --> 02:29:19,800
Speaker 1: selfish about me and everything that was wrong with me,

3350
02:29:19,840 --> 02:29:21,520
Speaker 1: as opposed to like seeing what she was having to

3351
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:26,720
Speaker 1: go through. So it's yeah, having kids is definitely yeah, Yeah,

3352
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:28,960
Speaker 1: it definitely equalizes a lot of things.

3353
02:29:29,120 --> 02:29:30,560
Speaker 3: Should we hit them with the bud light question?

3354
02:29:30,959 --> 02:29:35,080
Speaker 1: We should? I want to see if Jack, we'll give Jack, We'll.

3355
02:29:35,000 --> 02:29:39,080
Speaker 3: Give Jack a moment. So you know, people do anything

3356
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:42,680
Speaker 3: for an ice cool, bud light, anything. What is something

3357
02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:46,560
Speaker 3: that you would do anything for? Families off the table,

3358
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:49,240
Speaker 3: If we've learned anything about this podcast, we have to

3359
02:29:49,280 --> 02:29:51,480
Speaker 3: take family off the table because that's where you'll go. Yeah,

3360
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:55,000
Speaker 3: so you got to take family off the table. And

3361
02:29:55,080 --> 02:29:56,920
Speaker 3: what is something that you would do anything for?

3362
02:30:00,320 --> 02:30:02,680
Speaker 4: Give me an example, who's great question?

3363
02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Who had a good one? It wasn't Dale somebody. Yeah,

3364
02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Steve Vanilla says, who does me? Eater was like, I

3365
02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:11,760
Speaker 1: want to do a documentary that I don't think anybody

3366
02:30:11,800 --> 02:30:14,200
Speaker 1: will ever care about, but I need to do the documentary.

3367
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:16,840
Speaker 1: He wouldn't tell us on camera. He told us off camera,

3368
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:19,040
Speaker 1: but he's like, that's what I would do anything for.

3369
02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:26,520
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I think mine's Actually it's a little bit interesting.

3370
02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:30,600
Speaker 4: I guess maybe for me. But I would do anything

3371
02:30:30,760 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 4: to go to It's called in the Publy Coast on Kuhi,

3372
02:30:35,560 --> 02:30:38,600
Speaker 4: and they have these secluded beaches that you only get

3373
02:30:38,680 --> 02:30:42,560
Speaker 4: to buy boat and I would do anything to get

3374
02:30:42,640 --> 02:30:46,240
Speaker 4: there and have an empty lineup and my boogie board

3375
02:30:46,400 --> 02:30:49,000
Speaker 4: and fins and just be there all day and catch

3376
02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:52,840
Speaker 4: barrels and get shocked and not a worry in the world.

3377
02:30:54,480 --> 02:30:57,600
Speaker 3: That seems like a vibe dude, a boogie board that.

3378
02:30:59,280 --> 02:30:59,760
Speaker 1: Is solid.

3379
02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:02,920
Speaker 3: It's hard to think outside of the obviously, it's like,

3380
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:05,920
Speaker 3: especially with kids and everything else, family for sure.

3381
02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:11,480
Speaker 4: Oh see, this is the most nervous I've been all day.

3382
02:31:13,720 --> 02:31:14,200
Speaker 4: I love that.

3383
02:31:16,600 --> 02:31:18,520
Speaker 5: I have a two par question, football related in the

3384
02:31:18,600 --> 02:31:21,200
Speaker 5: non football one. It could be from high school, college

3385
02:31:21,360 --> 02:31:24,080
Speaker 5: or pros. Who is your favorite teammate you ever had

3386
02:31:24,200 --> 02:31:25,119
Speaker 5: and favorite coach?

3387
02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:27,160
Speaker 4: Can I say these guys are no, No, you cannot

3388
02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:29,920
Speaker 4: say them. It's a cop out. But if you were

3389
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:32,959
Speaker 4: going to say that's an option for a part, well,

3390
02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:35,120
Speaker 4: first of all, I mean he he probably has one

3391
02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:37,920
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars in fines for me, so I really

3392
02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:42,320
Speaker 4: enjoyed my time with him. Gosh, you know, put me

3393
02:31:42,360 --> 02:31:50,880
Speaker 4: on the spot because I've played with so many great guys. Yeah,

3394
02:31:50,920 --> 02:31:54,600
Speaker 4: it's probably my dog. Actually just retired offishally had his

3395
02:31:54,680 --> 02:31:58,840
Speaker 4: retirement party on Sunday. Who's this ronness? GROSSU here's my

3396
02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:04,680
Speaker 4: center here. Congratulations to him. By the way, got inducted

3397
02:32:04,760 --> 02:32:07,040
Speaker 4: into the Oregon Hall of Fame University of Oregon Hall

3398
02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:11,520
Speaker 4: of Fame one. I don't know how many offensive linemen

3399
02:32:11,560 --> 02:32:14,640
Speaker 4: are in it, but yeah, so he's probably one of

3400
02:32:14,840 --> 02:32:17,119
Speaker 4: very few. So we're pretty cool. But that's my guy

3401
02:32:17,240 --> 02:32:19,400
Speaker 4: and been through a lot of things up and downs.

3402
02:32:19,600 --> 02:32:21,600
Speaker 4: Had a great time at Oregon. But he was there

3403
02:32:21,680 --> 02:32:23,760
Speaker 4: with me in Tennessee. I was also there with me

3404
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:27,120
Speaker 4: and with the Raiders, and yeah, just my guy, like

3405
02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:31,960
Speaker 4: special dude, special family. And now he gets to be

3406
02:32:32,200 --> 02:32:38,119
Speaker 4: a trophy husband. So congratulations, my guy. Favorite coach, Yes,

3407
02:32:38,200 --> 02:32:47,680
Speaker 4: favorite coach, oh man, I would say Mark Helfrich. He

3408
02:32:47,840 --> 02:32:50,080
Speaker 4: was my head coach here. He was also the offensive

3409
02:32:50,080 --> 02:32:54,280
Speaker 4: coordinator when I got here. He taught me so much

3410
02:32:54,360 --> 02:32:58,560
Speaker 4: more than just football, and I think to this day

3411
02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:02,320
Speaker 4: that's why we're so close. He lives here in Eugene.

3412
02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:07,320
Speaker 4: We play golf. You know, he's had had our families

3413
02:33:07,360 --> 02:33:10,200
Speaker 4: over like He's just an unbelievable person who's been through

3414
02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:12,280
Speaker 4: a lot. And I think like being able just to

3415
02:33:12,400 --> 02:33:15,400
Speaker 4: have someone in your corner like that that you can

3416
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:22,240
Speaker 4: always rely on is special. And he probably had to. Honestly,

3417
02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:23,960
Speaker 4: I could go on record and saying this, but he

3418
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:27,360
Speaker 4: probably had the worst team meetings. He was He's a

3419
02:33:27,480 --> 02:33:30,720
Speaker 4: very smart guy and he would lose probably half the

3420
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:34,720
Speaker 4: room when he would go through some of his pregame speeches.

3421
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:39,200
Speaker 4: But for me, he was just unbelievable and I love

3422
02:33:39,280 --> 02:33:42,520
Speaker 4: him to death, and yeah, he's just one of a kind.

3423
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:46,080
Speaker 6: Amazing all Right, last question, non football related.

3424
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:48,840
Speaker 5: You're back home, you go to the gas station, build

3425
02:33:48,879 --> 02:33:50,360
Speaker 5: out your perfect hot plate.

3426
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:54,360
Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't go to a gas station because I'm

3427
02:33:54,360 --> 02:34:00,800
Speaker 4: an ev guy, but I would say if I had

3428
02:34:01,959 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 4: so back home in Hawaii, and they do spam subes,

3429
02:34:05,959 --> 02:34:09,160
Speaker 4: so it's like it's spam on top of rice that's

3430
02:34:09,200 --> 02:34:13,520
Speaker 4: wrapped with noddy or seaweed, So I'd have one of those,

3431
02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:21,080
Speaker 4: and if you get lucky, you can get a little

3432
02:34:21,120 --> 02:34:25,760
Speaker 4: egg or you know, something else on there. It's unbelievable,

3433
02:34:26,480 --> 02:34:29,640
Speaker 4: no matter what you think, but it's great. And then

3434
02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:34,080
Speaker 4: I would probably get along lines of like we caught

3435
02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:37,320
Speaker 4: Kareean fried cheese, Korean fried chicken, so they do like

3436
02:34:38,400 --> 02:34:42,480
Speaker 4: it's a like a sesame type of teriaki sauce and

3437
02:34:43,400 --> 02:34:45,600
Speaker 4: they put some chili flakes in there, so I would

3438
02:34:45,640 --> 02:34:49,760
Speaker 4: have that and a spamos sube. Beautiful. Thank you for

3439
02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:52,720
Speaker 4: your time. Well hold on, wait, what would your hot

3440
02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:55,600
Speaker 4: plate be? I've only had the experience of it once.

3441
02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:57,720
Speaker 5: My brother lives in Maui and has for ten years,

3442
02:34:57,959 --> 02:35:01,120
Speaker 5: and I want to say it was some local just

3443
02:35:01,200 --> 02:35:07,040
Speaker 5: some kind of pork, some macaroni salad cold obviously, and

3444
02:35:07,560 --> 02:35:11,000
Speaker 5: uh yeah, I think it was just rise and hopefully

3445
02:35:11,000 --> 02:35:11,520
Speaker 5: they just got.

3446
02:35:11,480 --> 02:35:13,920
Speaker 4: Some nice house sauce in their You is it all over?

3447
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:16,119
Speaker 6: So I think that's probably a good howie play.

3448
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:18,440
Speaker 4: But it's safe. It's safe.

3449
02:35:18,640 --> 02:35:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate it.

3450
02:35:20,600 --> 02:35:21,920
Speaker 3: You don't have anything else, Jack.

3451
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:27,080
Speaker 1: I've got my trivia after this. Okay, oh trivia, quick trivia.

3452
02:35:28,520 --> 02:35:30,440
Speaker 1: Jack brought up palace. Is there really a beat up

3453
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:30,840
Speaker 1: Pala Day?

3454
02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:34,760
Speaker 4: My mom grew up on Kawhia beat up holidays. They

3455
02:35:34,760 --> 02:35:36,160
Speaker 4: don't have it anymore, though, what is that?

3456
02:35:36,360 --> 02:35:42,640
Speaker 1: What is they's like white foreigner foreigner, No, it's white.

3457
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:44,160
Speaker 1: It's the white kids.

3458
02:35:47,480 --> 02:35:48,880
Speaker 3: They go to a day and get beat up.

3459
02:35:48,959 --> 02:35:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you go to school and it's like it's

3460
02:35:50,600 --> 02:35:52,520
Speaker 1: a beat up Holla day, which, by the way, no

3461
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:54,280
Speaker 1: ship not even a fun name to go with it.

3462
02:35:54,360 --> 02:35:55,760
Speaker 1: They should have like another cool beat.

3463
02:35:57,080 --> 02:36:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and y'all just beat up the beat. We got

3464
02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:02,200
Speaker 3: to initiate him.

3465
02:36:03,520 --> 02:36:03,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

3466
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:05,160
Speaker 1: They roll the dice.

3467
02:36:05,240 --> 02:36:05,720
Speaker 3: This is real.

3468
02:36:05,840 --> 02:36:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they roll the dice. The first dice is how

3469
02:36:07,520 --> 02:36:07,920
Speaker 1: many minutes?

3470
02:36:07,959 --> 02:36:08,680
Speaker 4: The next second.

3471
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:10,720
Speaker 10: Is that?

3472
02:36:10,879 --> 02:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Is the true to that?

3473
02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:16,720
Speaker 1: No? No, no, that's like a gang things like.

3474
02:36:16,840 --> 02:36:17,720
Speaker 3: Damn is this for real?

3475
02:36:17,920 --> 02:36:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

3476
02:36:18,800 --> 02:36:21,279
Speaker 1: So your mom took part in that, didn't.

3477
02:36:21,080 --> 02:36:22,279
Speaker 4: She she wouldn't go to school.

3478
02:36:23,400 --> 02:36:23,840
Speaker 1: That's sweet.

3479
02:36:24,040 --> 02:36:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it was beat up Hallie day, she just

3480
02:36:26,400 --> 02:36:30,840
Speaker 3: would skip out on school. That seems right Marcus coming

3481
02:36:30,879 --> 02:36:31,120
Speaker 3: from that.

3482
02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:36,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a good no doubt. What's all set

3483
02:36:36,160 --> 02:36:37,400
Speaker 1: and down? Where you're in a living in Hawaii?

3484
02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:39,880
Speaker 4: Yep, I'll be three hundred pounds on a boogie board somewhere.

3485
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:42,119
Speaker 4: Come find me, man.

3486
02:36:42,200 --> 02:36:46,959
Speaker 3: This has been an incredible conversation. I legitimately appreciate it, man,

3487
02:36:47,200 --> 02:36:50,400
Speaker 3: talking through the peaks and especially the valleys. Love the

3488
02:36:50,440 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 3: transparency I do. It's like you know who you are, yeah,

3489
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:56,600
Speaker 3: and it's it's rare you get guys that you know

3490
02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:59,880
Speaker 3: that want to sit in some of those uncomfortable spaces

3491
02:37:00,680 --> 02:37:02,840
Speaker 3: and talk about it, you know, knowing it's going to

3492
02:37:02,879 --> 02:37:04,920
Speaker 3: get viewed, and that's hard for a lot of people.

3493
02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:06,160
Speaker 4: And I do.

3494
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:07,400
Speaker 3: I genuinely appreciate it.

3495
02:37:07,640 --> 02:37:10,600
Speaker 4: No, thank you, guys. We do it on the bus though. Yeah, yeah,

3496
02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:11,000
Speaker 4: you know.

3497
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:13,520
Speaker 3: But hey, you've been we've been wanting to get you

3498
02:37:13,640 --> 02:37:16,920
Speaker 3: locked in sin just the beginning, so it's like, hey,

3499
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:18,600
Speaker 3: we're gonna be out in Eugene. I just I just

3500
02:37:18,920 --> 02:37:20,800
Speaker 3: I was driving home and I was just thought to myself,

3501
02:37:20,800 --> 02:37:23,720
Speaker 3: I wonder for whatever reason, Marcus would be out in

3502
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:27,360
Speaker 3: uh in Oregon. Because you mentioned your boy, who's Ryan

3503
02:37:28,200 --> 02:37:31,560
Speaker 3: fl Flarty. I remember listening to him on a podcast.

3504
02:37:31,320 --> 02:37:32,800
Speaker 4: He used to do all the Nike podcasts.

3505
02:37:33,320 --> 02:37:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, love hit stuff, shut out Ryan. But I just

3506
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:37,800
Speaker 3: remember thinking, like, I wonder if he'll be out there.

3507
02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:42,960
Speaker 3: You're like yeap, until twenty second I'm like, buddy, it's time. Yeah. Yeah,

3508
02:37:43,360 --> 02:37:46,040
Speaker 3: because we talk about it every year every year because

3509
02:37:46,040 --> 02:37:48,640
Speaker 3: we were with him out what was it Vegas last year? Yep,

3510
02:37:48,760 --> 02:37:51,680
Speaker 3: when when that little moment went down in the hotel

3511
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:54,360
Speaker 3: and I kind of had oh my god, yeah, you

3512
02:37:54,440 --> 02:37:57,720
Speaker 3: kind of had to shut it down. That was two

3513
02:37:57,800 --> 02:38:01,760
Speaker 3: years ago. Marcus loved that. He's like, hey, I got

3514
02:38:01,800 --> 02:38:02,800
Speaker 3: this game. What's the game called.

3515
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:04,360
Speaker 1: It's called acucy.

3516
02:38:05,440 --> 02:38:06,840
Speaker 4: A C doucy pot.

3517
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:08,120
Speaker 3: Did you tell your wife about this?

3518
02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:10,080
Speaker 4: No, now you're gonna get me in trouble.

3519
02:38:10,840 --> 02:38:13,320
Speaker 3: You you weren't. I don't think you got me that day.

3520
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:16,040
Speaker 1: I think we all could well, we all could have

3521
02:38:16,120 --> 02:38:18,320
Speaker 1: lost a lot of money. So if you were like, hey,

3522
02:38:18,400 --> 02:38:20,040
Speaker 1: we can't do this, eone's like yeah, let's not do this.

3523
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:21,680
Speaker 3: Because it got to a point that either ban or

3524
02:38:21,720 --> 02:38:24,520
Speaker 3: somebody put their car in the middle. Because there was

3525
02:38:24,600 --> 02:38:25,959
Speaker 3: so much money on the table.

3526
02:38:26,320 --> 02:38:30,080
Speaker 4: I forget the accy is like it's not even really skill,

3527
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:31,800
Speaker 4: it's just like what the cards come out.

3528
02:38:32,760 --> 02:38:34,360
Speaker 3: But this round it was going so long.

3529
02:38:34,560 --> 02:38:37,360
Speaker 4: Well, we kept hitting posts. So like basically ac deucy

3530
02:38:37,440 --> 02:38:39,560
Speaker 4: works is you have to get in between the numbers.

3531
02:38:39,560 --> 02:38:42,480
Speaker 4: So like if you get like a jack and a two,

3532
02:38:42,600 --> 02:38:44,520
Speaker 4: like you want a number in between. If you go

3533
02:38:44,680 --> 02:38:47,320
Speaker 4: outside of that, you have to pay whatever you bet.

3534
02:38:48,040 --> 02:38:50,320
Speaker 4: If you hit a post, you have to double whatever

3535
02:38:50,959 --> 02:38:53,600
Speaker 4: you bet. So people will say like pot and they'll

3536
02:38:53,640 --> 02:38:55,560
Speaker 4: hit a post, so they'll hit jack or whatever the

3537
02:38:55,640 --> 02:38:58,200
Speaker 4: other number was, and then they have to match the

3538
02:38:58,280 --> 02:38:59,080
Speaker 4: pot and double it.

3539
02:39:00,520 --> 02:39:02,680
Speaker 3: Match the pot in double it. And there's so much

3540
02:39:02,959 --> 02:39:06,200
Speaker 3: money because the way you explained, it's like, you know

3541
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:14,760
Speaker 3: it probably a couple of thousand. Yeah, we had to

3542
02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:16,240
Speaker 3: split it up. We had to like, hey, let's just

3543
02:39:16,280 --> 02:39:17,560
Speaker 3: get back to see ago.

3544
02:39:17,959 --> 02:39:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, two years ago. That was the one aria you.

3545
02:39:20,800 --> 02:39:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you somebody put a car.

3546
02:39:22,800 --> 02:39:24,959
Speaker 4: You love the tables, I do. I would say, if

3547
02:39:24,959 --> 02:39:26,959
Speaker 4: there if there's a vice in my life, it's gambling.

3548
02:39:27,360 --> 02:39:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you do it so responsibly.

3549
02:39:29,120 --> 02:39:29,640
Speaker 4: I tried to.

3550
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I remember we would do old line trips

3551
02:39:32,280 --> 02:39:34,000
Speaker 1: and you would come out and then some of the

3552
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:36,360
Speaker 1: boys would go out and they'd be like, yeah, Marcus

3553
02:39:36,360 --> 02:39:38,200
Speaker 1: at seven am. When I got back, just on the

3554
02:39:38,600 --> 02:39:43,200
Speaker 1: crafts table with like one hundred bucks, is like, we

3555
02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:44,520
Speaker 1: just love playing.

3556
02:39:44,959 --> 02:39:46,720
Speaker 3: Well, have you heard about have you heard about our boy?

3557
02:39:47,400 --> 02:39:48,040
Speaker 1: You would love this.

3558
02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:51,920
Speaker 3: He's he's heavy on the gambling big really.

3559
02:39:52,080 --> 02:39:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got caught up with Dana and Dana was like, yeah,

3560
02:39:55,320 --> 02:39:58,280
Speaker 1: black well it was blackjack, now it's baccarat. Oh and

3561
02:39:59,040 --> 02:40:02,120
Speaker 1: an banker depends what the screen sets, and.

3562
02:40:02,160 --> 02:40:04,800
Speaker 3: We're talking how how hard the hands, the limits you

3563
02:40:04,879 --> 02:40:06,480
Speaker 3: go the max?

3564
02:40:06,920 --> 02:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like one hand, one hand, thirty gets me

3565
02:40:12,080 --> 02:40:14,480
Speaker 1: on the craps table to the crafts table. It's fun.

3566
02:40:14,520 --> 02:40:15,520
Speaker 1: I feel it's more.

3567
02:40:15,480 --> 02:40:17,400
Speaker 3: Social that was back when we were just we get

3568
02:40:17,440 --> 02:40:19,800
Speaker 3: some drinks, we're running the football, we're having the football.

3569
02:40:23,400 --> 02:40:26,360
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen here? Yeah? That was so much fun.

3570
02:40:26,440 --> 02:40:27,760
Speaker 1: We were like there was like five or six of

3571
02:40:27,879 --> 02:40:28,840
Speaker 1: us just sitting there, a.

3572
02:40:28,840 --> 02:40:31,200
Speaker 3: Few hundred dollars hands. Then we're up in the room

3573
02:40:31,240 --> 02:40:32,960
Speaker 3: and all that. I don't know how much cash we had,

3574
02:40:33,040 --> 02:40:34,680
Speaker 3: but it felt like it was like thirty or forty

3575
02:40:34,760 --> 02:40:36,640
Speaker 3: thousand dollars in the middle, and then somebody wanted to

3576
02:40:36,680 --> 02:40:39,000
Speaker 3: put a car in and nobody was hitting whatever the

3577
02:40:39,120 --> 02:40:41,400
Speaker 3: term was, the post or the pot or somebody hit

3578
02:40:41,440 --> 02:40:43,240
Speaker 3: the pot have to double it, and it was like, hey, fellas,

3579
02:40:43,320 --> 02:40:47,080
Speaker 3: let's really yeah, let's just separate all this. Lets everybody

3580
02:40:47,160 --> 02:40:47,600
Speaker 3: get money.

3581
02:40:48,320 --> 02:40:51,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a terrifying that's right, that's right. Then

3582
02:40:51,480 --> 02:40:53,040
Speaker 4: he lost it that night playing black Jass.

3583
02:40:53,080 --> 02:40:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah is that Corey?

3584
02:40:54,240 --> 02:40:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

3585
02:40:55,720 --> 02:40:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Corey Cory. The next morning, we like we like

3586
02:40:58,520 --> 02:41:01,480
Speaker 3: shared a we shared a room, and uh, I come

3587
02:41:01,520 --> 02:41:04,200
Speaker 3: out of my room and he's just standing We're like

3588
02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:06,959
Speaker 3: up there in the hotel and he's just standing looking

3589
02:41:07,000 --> 02:41:10,320
Speaker 3: out the blinds and like, all I say is Corey

3590
02:41:10,959 --> 02:41:12,440
Speaker 3: and he just goes He's standing right there in his

3591
02:41:12,520 --> 02:41:15,359
Speaker 3: briefs and he just goes, man, what are we chasing.

3592
02:41:15,080 --> 02:41:15,520
Speaker 4: Out of here?

3593
02:41:18,640 --> 02:41:18,800
Speaker 3: Well?

3594
02:41:18,840 --> 02:41:20,480
Speaker 4: He wont I mean he won a good amount of

3595
02:41:20,520 --> 02:41:22,520
Speaker 4: money that day. And then I remember sitting at the

3596
02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:24,600
Speaker 4: back table like that's all gone.

3597
02:41:25,200 --> 02:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that the same we do we go to

3598
02:41:28,320 --> 02:41:30,640
Speaker 1: mister Chowles that night? Was that that same night?

3599
02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? We got either choles or pizza.

3600
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to chows and I think Mitch was like,

3601
02:41:35,840 --> 02:41:38,320
Speaker 1: didn't Corey win ten thousand? And Corey's like slumped in

3602
02:41:38,879 --> 02:41:41,240
Speaker 1: so sad, and so it's like, does that guy that's

3603
02:41:41,320 --> 02:41:41,800
Speaker 1: one ten.

3604
02:41:42,240 --> 02:41:47,040
Speaker 4: Dollars You shouldn't laugh about that.

3605
02:41:47,320 --> 02:41:49,720
Speaker 1: No, he's all right. Corey's doing great, man, great. I

3606
02:41:49,720 --> 02:41:52,000
Speaker 1: think he's back with the Titans. Yeah, I think is

3607
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:52,400
Speaker 1: he back?

3608
02:41:52,640 --> 02:41:57,039
Speaker 4: I think so, gosh, can't kill eight or nine.

3609
02:41:57,240 --> 02:41:57,880
Speaker 1: Something like that.

3610
02:41:58,040 --> 02:41:59,400
Speaker 3: Man, I think he's going on eight.

3611
02:42:00,080 --> 02:42:00,880
Speaker 1: He didn't even play right.

3612
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was like in the training camp

3613
02:42:03,160 --> 02:42:05,120
Speaker 3: of Chicago. That's when you hit him with your built

3614
02:42:05,160 --> 02:42:06,120
Speaker 3: like a muffin or something.

3615
02:42:06,400 --> 02:42:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, saved his career. We were playing we were playing

3616
02:42:09,360 --> 02:42:10,800
Speaker 1: This is twenty twenty, so we were playing.

3617
02:42:10,640 --> 02:42:12,480
Speaker 3: Risk and it was in the middle of COVID, so

3618
02:42:12,520 --> 02:42:13,560
Speaker 3: we're just waking games.

3619
02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be in California. We play like I

3620
02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:18,240
Speaker 1: was like one in the morning where I was at,

3621
02:42:18,280 --> 02:42:20,120
Speaker 1: So i'd be three where you guys were at. And

3622
02:42:20,200 --> 02:42:22,120
Speaker 1: we played three games of Risk in a row. And

3623
02:42:22,320 --> 02:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Corey was talking one day, Oh, Corey, you're built like

3624
02:42:24,200 --> 02:42:24,720
Speaker 1: a muffin.

3625
02:42:24,760 --> 02:42:26,520
Speaker 3: It's like going at and it got quiet, like it

3626
02:42:26,600 --> 02:42:28,640
Speaker 3: was kind of awkward, like Dan Taylor's being kind of mean,

3627
02:42:28,760 --> 02:42:30,440
Speaker 3: because I think Corey said something like a pencil and

3628
02:42:30,520 --> 02:42:30,920
Speaker 3: he took.

3629
02:42:30,800 --> 02:42:33,480
Speaker 1: A photo and like, you know, you're building a pencil, Taylor.

3630
02:42:33,680 --> 02:42:35,680
Speaker 3: And then Taylor that night on the mic was just

3631
02:42:35,800 --> 02:42:38,520
Speaker 3: ripping into him. Everybody just like oh my god.

3632
02:42:38,520 --> 02:42:41,080
Speaker 1: The next day, like eight am, since it's a photo

3633
02:42:41,160 --> 02:42:44,160
Speaker 1: of him at the field grinding.

3634
02:42:45,040 --> 02:42:48,600
Speaker 3: And credit now he looks in Credit was Yeah.

3635
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Now it's like hey, Corey, like you're welcome. Sometimes you

3636
02:42:52,240 --> 02:42:55,360
Speaker 1: got a bullied kid to put him on. He needs

3637
02:42:55,400 --> 02:42:59,640
Speaker 1: to go shout out Corey Len All right, let's lock

3638
02:42:59,680 --> 02:42:59,920
Speaker 1: it up.

3639
02:43:00,160 --> 02:43:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah good, I feel amazing. Mark is awesome. Listen to

3640
02:43:03,680 --> 02:43:04,119
Speaker 3: it twice.

3641
02:43:04,440 --> 02:43:06,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so nice, and Lesten do it twice. Yeah, subscribe,

3642
02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:09,720
Speaker 1: rate five starters, the whole thing, Big hugs, teny kisses.

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