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Speaker 1: It gets curiouser and curiouser to steal from Alice in Wonderland,

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Speaker 1: this much. When police have to give mommy an ultimatum

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Speaker 1: that's not good. Where are Tyley Ryan and jj Valo?

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace? Where are your kids? You'll comment,

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Speaker 1: They've been missing for much, I think to say. The

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Speaker 1: Idaho News tracked down Laurie Daybell and her husband Chad

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Speaker 1: Just tell us where they are, Chad, Where are Laurie's kids.

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Speaker 1: Laurie day Bell is the mother of seven year old

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Speaker 1: haven't been seen in months. The children's grandparents are offering

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Speaker 1: You are hearing our friends an inside edition. Where are

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Speaker 1: two Idaho children, Tyle Ryan and JJ Valo? I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Scribe Stories. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 1: with me an all star panel, Jason Ocean's renown New

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Speaker 1: York defense attorney, Bobby Chico and former FBI star of

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Speaker 1: Facebook watched series Curse of Akacre. You know her well,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst to the Stars and Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: You can find her doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Karen Smith,

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Speaker 1: LA California forensics expert, lecturer University Florida and host of

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Speaker 1: Shattered Soul's podcast. But right now to Nate Eton, investigative

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Speaker 1: reporter with East Idaho News dot Com. Nate, take a

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Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Valo at NBC twelve. As

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Speaker 1: for Laurie and two of her kids, JJ, entirely mystery

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Speaker 1: married Chad day Bell, both members of an extreme religious group.

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Speaker 1: They were a doomsday oh then they just were always

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nate eating East Idhoenews dot com. Nate, I

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Speaker 1: first of all, you have her one of her I

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Speaker 1: scene in September. Your grandmother's worried, sick. What kind of

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Speaker 1: mother won't cooperate with the authorities. Brandon Boudreau married into

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Speaker 1: the family and believes Lorie joined a religious group founded

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Speaker 1: buying day Bell, who has authored books about doomsday. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why they're doing what they're doing and doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. I don't know what happened to those kids.

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Speaker 1: I know that there's people who do when they're not talking.

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Speaker 1: Boodrou says he was almost killed in a drive by shooting.

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Speaker 1: Police confirmed they are investigating that incident too. You were

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Speaker 1: just hearing our friend Matt Gutman over at ABC. The

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Speaker 1: search is on for two children, Tyleie Ryan and Joshua

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Speaker 1: JJ Valo. You notice the two different last names. Tyley's dad.

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Speaker 1: She has another brother who's older, lives on his own.

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Speaker 1: He's emancipated, he's grown up, died ostensibly of a heart attack,

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Speaker 1: and then he was suddenly cremated. We've got a string

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Speaker 1: of four deaths surrounding these two and then throwing the

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Speaker 1: monkey ranch of a doomsday cult in the heart of

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Speaker 1: the investigation the missing children. Straight out to Bobby to

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Speaker 1: cons former special agent FBI start our Facebook watched series

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Speaker 1: Curse of Acacre. Bobby, you know, harn't I even know

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Speaker 1: where to start on this one. And when I'm like that,

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Speaker 1: I just dive in. Let's just start with what's most

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Speaker 1: important right now, and that's where are the children? How

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Speaker 1: do we find out if they're dead or alive? That's

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Speaker 1: frightnanc And the reason we don't know where to start

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Speaker 1: is that you have five basically mysteries that are all

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Speaker 1: intercepting any one of these five incidents. The four deaths

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Speaker 1: and the missing children are very complex. And the way

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00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: you start a missing children's cases you go to the

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Speaker 1: last person who would have seen them alive, and that's

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Speaker 1: the mother and or would know where they are. And

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Speaker 1: this is just it's kind of basic common sense. Is

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Speaker 1: why this case is so frustrating is everybody knows the

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Speaker 1: same thing to do is ask the mother, this mother

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Speaker 1: had customy of these children their whole lives. Where are

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Speaker 1: the end If you think about whether the mothers should

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Speaker 1: or not tell you, do you have a motive for

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Speaker 1: not saying, Well, there's really only one motive she would

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Speaker 1: have to tell anyone. This is not a custody case

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Speaker 1: any longer. This is simply where are the children? And

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Speaker 1: the only reason she would have to hide that information

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Speaker 1: is if something something bad happened to these children at

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Speaker 1: her hands. And that's the really only motivation she would

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Speaker 1: have to hide this information. There's no other motivation that

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Speaker 1: she might have to be hiding the whereabouts with these children.

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Speaker 1: No one, no one's asking to take these children away

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Speaker 1: from her, no one's accusing her of abuse of these

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Speaker 1: children yet, So there's there's not nothing outstanding right now

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Speaker 1: that would prevent her from telling the police or even

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Speaker 1: motivate her to prevent telling the police where these children are.

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Speaker 1: And that's the huge concern of this case. Crime Stories

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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Along with the investigation into Laurie's missing kids,

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Speaker 1: police are also looking into the deaths so the couple's

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Speaker 1: former spouses, Chad's previous wife, Timmy died in rex Work

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Speaker 1: back in October. Fremont County Sheriff Lynn Humphrey says that

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Speaker 1: death is now considered suspicious. The more we looked into it,

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Speaker 1: the more it became apparent that we needed to take

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Speaker 1: a second look and look a little closer, and so

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Speaker 1: that was the reason for obtaining the court order to

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Speaker 1: exhume the body and have an autopsy performed. Police also

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Speaker 1: say Laurie's brother, Alex Cox, shot and killed Laurie's former

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Speaker 1: husband in Arizona in July. Cox died shortly after. Police

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Speaker 1: are still investigating those deaths. When her brother shot and

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Speaker 1: killed her ex husband, there were several people present. To

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Speaker 1: my knowledge, those people are all missing or dead, and

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Speaker 1: the two children being two of those who are missing.

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Speaker 1: Our friends joining us from KATVB seven in Boise. That

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Speaker 1: was Gretchen Parsons speaking. Where are Tyley and jj We

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Speaker 1: know that Kawhi police served Mommy Laurie Vallo and her

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Speaker 1: new husband, Chad Daybille with search warrants relating to the

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Speaker 1: missing children on Sunday. They've got till tomorrow morning to

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Speaker 1: show up with the children in Idaho. They've been on

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Speaker 1: the run two months after abandoning their home in Idaho

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Speaker 1: when police came to find the children. No arrestaurants yet.

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Speaker 1: If they won't come back home, then there'll have to

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Speaker 1: be an extradition process. I Nancy Grace, this is crime

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Speaker 1: Stories straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall, psycho analyst to

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Speaker 1: the stars in Beverly Hills. You can find her doctor

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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com Doctor Bethany Marshall. Just I have

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Speaker 1: to start with two things. One could she be hiding

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Speaker 1: the children? Two? What about this doomsday cult? I mean

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Speaker 1: the new husband, Chad day Bill. He's had time to

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Speaker 1: write twenty five books on the end of time, the

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Speaker 1: end of the world. What about what's happening right now?

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Speaker 1: You know, Dancy, you're so correct. When you have time

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Speaker 1: to write twenty five books on the end of time,

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Speaker 1: you are pretty obsessed with your religion, I mean, in

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Speaker 1: some obsessive, crazed state. And you asked about how Laurie

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Speaker 1: had all that money to stay at the resort. I

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Speaker 1: don't know when these two have time to work. When

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Speaker 1: do they have time to earn money and to have

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Speaker 1: a productive life. It would seem to be a motivation

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Speaker 1: for killing your spouses for a life insurance policy, just

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Speaker 1: so you could support having so much free time to

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Speaker 1: indulge being active in this cult. But more serious note,

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Speaker 1: when a child goes missing and you do a forensic

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Speaker 1: interview of the parents, one of the things you look

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Speaker 1: for is whether or not the parent is attached to

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Speaker 1: the child or to the children, and whether or not

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Speaker 1: the mother has basic empathy towards the child. Right, so

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Speaker 1: we don't see her crying, asking for the child's safe return,

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Speaker 1: presenting theories about where the children might be, looking upset

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Speaker 1: or distress. Instead, she glares at the reporter, So that

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Speaker 1: shows no empathy towards the people who are trying to

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Speaker 1: find her children, and no empathy towards the children who

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Speaker 1: are missing. And to my mind, Nancy, that speaks to

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Speaker 1: the fact that they might be dead, because that means

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Speaker 1: the mother is simply not attached to her children, and

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Speaker 1: to secrete them away in some doomsday bunker would mean

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Speaker 1: that she would have to care about them, and this

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Speaker 1: mother does not seem to be caring to Jason Oceans,

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Speaker 1: renowned defense attorney joining me out of New York. But

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Speaker 1: he Priday is all over the country, Jason Oceans, they

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Speaker 1: are looking at so many infractions. But the issue is

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Speaker 1: that they don't show up the court tomorrow morning. What

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Speaker 1: can we extradite them with? Its simply you know, basically

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Speaker 1: contempt of court. Now that's exactly it at the moment,

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Speaker 1: until you know, other charges might be filed. But you know,

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Speaker 1: just like in the beginning of a civil case and

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00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: a criminal you know, this would be the beginning. You

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Speaker 1: know that aspect of contempt and violating it is going

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Speaker 1: to be you know, the impetus you know for the

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Speaker 1: judge and you know, to get why you to cover

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Speaker 1: that and arrest them and then work on an extradition.

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Speaker 1: So it becomes complicated. Uh. And you know when you

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Speaker 1: when you were heard of him as newly wet, it

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Speaker 1: seems that everything with them is newly dead. Whatever they touch,

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: whatever it is, uh, turns into death. Okay, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I actually thought you were above puns. But okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: You know that's that's how it seems. Uh, there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: It all seems normal. And then as doctor Bethany said, her, look,

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Speaker 1: the mother's look is it's disassociated. I mean she's completely separated,

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Speaker 1: just everything, uh, with no feeling whatsoever. And you did

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Speaker 1: mention that glaring. I mean, even if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: cover it, you don't do that. You're you're trying to feign.

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Speaker 1: Uh you're great caring and let and help, and you

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Speaker 1: know you're trying to throw it off here. There's just

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Speaker 1: no element of that whatsoever. It's just gone. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I do too, like everyone else, fear for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got to have more charges than just to failure

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Speaker 1: to show at court. You're not going to get an

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Speaker 1: extradition from Hawaii on that. It has to be something

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Speaker 1: more like a felony kidnap production of children that would work.

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Speaker 1: Karen Smith with me La, California forensics expert, lecturer University

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Speaker 1: Florida and host of Shattered Souls podcast. Karen, where do

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Speaker 1: we start? Yeah? I need a mind map for this

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Speaker 1: entire case. Nancy. I do not envy the police departments

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Speaker 1: working on this at all. First of all, the missing

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Speaker 1: children are paramount. That's what everybody wants to know. Where

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Speaker 1: are Tyley and JJ. On top of that, we've got

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Speaker 1: four bodies. They have exhumed the body of Tammy Day Bell.

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Speaker 1: Now she was the wife of Chad who died under

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Speaker 1: mysterious circumstances. At the age of forty nine in bed

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Speaker 1: one night, and as the reporter said, she was training

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Speaker 1: for a race. She was healthy. Now, when they exhume

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Speaker 1: her body, that is going to be very difficult. They've

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Speaker 1: used formaldehyde, they flushed all of the the blood, the urine,

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Speaker 1: the other biological fluids that would be normally be taken

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Speaker 1: at an autopsy, and now they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: deal with tissue samples like lung, kidney, brain, liver, and

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00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: they're going to have to do my croscopy on those samples,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to have to test for what they

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00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: don't even know what they're testing for. Heavy metals, pesticides, opiates, amphetamines, cocaine.

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Speaker 1: Nobody even knows what they're testing for. So for toxicologists

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Speaker 1: this is going to be extraordinarily challenging. Now, former studies

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00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: have used fixed tissues with formaldehyde and they have quantitatid

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Speaker 1: some illicit substances, so it's possible, difficult, but possible. Now,

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Speaker 1: if they find out that Tammy Davel did not die

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Speaker 1: of natural causes, that's going to spend the investigation into

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Speaker 1: something like maybe murder. But then they have to go

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Speaker 1: and find out if they are they going to charge Chad.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to charge you know the new wife

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Speaker 1: who who gets charged with that? What happened? So there's

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Speaker 1: this microcosm of death on top of these missing two children.

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Speaker 1: So the entire investigation is now going to be spent

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Speaker 1: on its head once they get the results not only

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Speaker 1: from Tammy day Bell, but they're also looking at Alex

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Speaker 1: Cox's death. Now. I don't believe he was embalmed. I

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Speaker 1: believe that was a normal autopsy, So they should be

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Speaker 1: able to get some more information about how he died. Nancy,

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Speaker 1: this is just a spider web of epic proportions in

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Speaker 1: every way. Here's one place we could start. Here's one

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00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: place we could start to Bobby che Cone, former FBI

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Speaker 1: star Facebook watch series Close Stuff Acacorn, Bobby, if they

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Speaker 1: are spinning and I'm just learning this from Nate Eton

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00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: all day into the evening and a resort down the

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Speaker 1: street from their gated community, I go right there. Where

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00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: have they been holed up? Have they been using phones?

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Speaker 1: Is there a stash there of cell phones? Other data? Also?

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Speaker 1: Did they win a room there? I mean, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: just sit by the pool in ten hours a day,

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Speaker 1: every single day that you've been in Hawaii. They're doing

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Speaker 1: something outside the home, and wherever that nest is, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna find evidence. Don't end the searches at the condo.

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Speaker 1: Find out where they've been all day long. Also, if

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Speaker 1: there's any way to truck where that car has been,

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Speaker 1: follow the money trail. If the children are alive. Jackie

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Speaker 1: Harward just said this here in the studio. She's no detective,

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Speaker 1: but obviously she's right. If the children are alive, they've

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Speaker 1: got to be supported somehow. Are they sending money somewhere?

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Speaker 1: Are there email communications about her children? Are Is there

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Speaker 1: a status of cell phones, burner phones, a laptop, an

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Speaker 1: iPad that's being used elsewhere like at that resort, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: what about it? Yeah, I think you're exactly right, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: I think in fact, they are probably trying to re

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Speaker 1: establish their electronic flipprint. I'm sure you're right also that

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Speaker 1: they probably have been using burner phones and things that

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Speaker 1: are probably very difficult to trace. So there, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the authorities are doing that in Hawaii now, trying to

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Speaker 1: recreate their lives the last days and weeks and even

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Speaker 1: months now of where they've been, who they've been in contact,

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Speaker 1: with Unfortunately, the said truth might be if some harm

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00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: did come to these children and they haven't been seen

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00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: since in September, that they have any of their activity

634
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: now could not may not be related. I'm sure the

635
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: authorities will track that down, but we may not have

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00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: any information related to the children in their most recent

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00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: activities in their lives, because if in fact, they harm

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00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: those children back in September, you've got to look at

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00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: that time frame to find where the children are, if

640
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: they've moved on, these people are you know, there's some

641
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: obviously mental instability in some of these people, and they

642
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: if they harm those children back in September, they may

643
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: have moved on from those children in their lives. I mean,

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00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: obviously they move on from other people in their lives.

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00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: Their end of days predictions come true. Anybody that comes

646
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: into contact with them, their days seem to add with

647
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: whether it's her former husband, his former wife, her brother, whoever,

648
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: it is their day's end. And so, you know, I

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00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: would look at their recent activity, but I you know,

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: something tells me that if those children, if those children

651
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: were horned back in September, I think these two quite

652
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: possibly moved on. And so a lot of pivity now

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Speaker 1: may not indicate where those children are. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say it out loud. I'll pray it out loud. Lord,

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Speaker 1: wherever they are, place, help us find Tylie, Ryan and

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Speaker 1: Joshua jj Valo Tip line two zero eight three five nine,

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Speaker 1: three thousand. We wait as justice. Son follows Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime's story sunning off, Goodbye friend,