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Speaker 1: Hey, what abum, Doug Gollie, this is all ball. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's get to starting college basketball discussions, right, And it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a very very interesting year where you

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Speaker 2: I mean even I've been doing this now for twenty

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Speaker 2: difficult year to predict what's going to happen because there's

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Speaker 2: so many players that have transferred. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: we make this assessment that, well, a kid averages fifteen

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Speaker 2: he's going to average. We have no idea how the

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Speaker 2: chemistry of that team works. You take Michigan State, for example.

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Speaker 2: On paper, you bring back super talented veteran players and granted,

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Speaker 2: you know you lose your shop blocker inside that's going

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Speaker 2: to make you different. And you bring in an outstanding

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Speaker 2: recruiting class and you think, well, they have depths and

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Speaker 2: they have talent, and now they have even more shooting

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Speaker 2: and ball handling and athleticism. That looks great, but how

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Speaker 2: does that all come together in terms of the chemistry

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Speaker 2: because we know the reality how the sport works. You're

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Speaker 2: not happy now.

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Speaker 1: Very early on, some guys will bail, many will be

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Speaker 1: thinking about the portal instead of thinking about winning a

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Speaker 1: league title. And granted is those the best. So if

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Speaker 1: there's one guy that can find a way to bridge

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Speaker 1: the gap between the older players and younger players, Tom

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Speaker 1: Izzo's that guy. But it doesn't make it any easier.

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Speaker 1: He's just really good at it. I bring that up

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Speaker 1: because some teams are trying to do it differently. Pepperdine,

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Speaker 1: within Now they do have Ethan Anderson, who's a two

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Speaker 1: that was a disaster. Now he transfers to Pepperdine and

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Speaker 1: he'll play with a player named Houston Mallett who's tremendously

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Speaker 1: And even though they lost Maxwell Lewis to the NBA Draft,

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Romar has tried to build from within.

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Speaker 2: How does that work right?

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Speaker 1: You bring in a kid Nathan Anderson who played a

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Speaker 2: Now he's at Pepperdine. Is he all in?

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Speaker 3: Is he a fit?

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Speaker 2: Can they win?

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Speaker 1: Can they Can they get into the top two? Can

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Speaker 1: they make it the top three in the West Coast Conference?

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Speaker 1: I think these are great questions. More than anything. There's

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Speaker 1: can we can pick apart the fact that Washington sort

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Speaker 1: Their best basketball that they've had consistently in c was

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Speaker 1: when Lorenzo Romar was the head coach. So thought you'd

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Speaker 1: WCC Media Day and kind of a short preview and

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Speaker 1: on all Ball with Lorenzo Romar. So, how do you

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Speaker 4: I like the prospects of our team, Doug.

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Speaker 3: We're finally a little bit older.

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Speaker 1: Last couple of years, you keep losing guys the NBA,

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Speaker 1: you keep recruiting. Y, we have it.

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Speaker 4: We haven't really dipped into the transfer portal. We've kind

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Speaker 4: we have a fifth year senior point guard Ethan Anderson.

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Speaker 3: We usually play against those guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he played see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, finally we have one ourselves and we have a

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Speaker 1: What is that like to have to like re recruit

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Speaker 4: Re recruit them the entire year in terms of just

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Speaker 4: We haven't had to really talk anyone in the staying.

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Speaker 4: There were two that left and they just left right.

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Speaker 4: We didn't try to talk him into it. If they

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Speaker 4: and he hadn't had much success as a team, but

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Speaker 3: He's back. So our guys have been pretty loyal.

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Speaker 4: We haven't really had to sit down with them and say, look,

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Speaker 6: The league, which it used to be like three tiers, right,

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Speaker 1: Outside of same arias Gonzaga is a lot closer.

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Speaker 3: Is that Is that fair? I said, that's totally accurate.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to look at the work that

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Speaker 4: And in this conference, I think everyone's capable of beating

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Speaker 3: For you?

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Speaker 5: Is it still fun?

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Speaker 1: You always You're somebody that in my dealings with you,

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Speaker 3: What's it like for you, I've soured on some of

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Speaker 4: Kids can lead whenever they want for any reason, and

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Speaker 4: it's not basketball. Sometimes it's more like a professional situation

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Speaker 4: That part is different and it's just taken some adjustment

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Speaker 4: to but it, Doug, it does not outweigh the fact

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Speaker 3: It's very rewarding and gratifying.

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Speaker 4: It's something that if I wouldn't getting paid to do it,

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Speaker 4: just I still enjoy it.

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Speaker 5: What are you better at now than you use to?

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Speaker 4: Understanding the important things that make you the best that

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Speaker 4: you can be? Understanding what those is? What those are?

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Speaker 4: I think before, Doug, as younger, you tried to cover

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Speaker 4: a lot of things. You tried to be good at everything.

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Speaker 4: There's some that are good at everything, but there better

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Speaker 5: What do you what do you what do you believe

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Ultimately I would like to think, uh, putting players in

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Speaker 4: that would be what it is. Yeah, almost to a fault.

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Speaker 4: I think sometimes and what I've done, Doug, you know

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Speaker 4: it's a staff. But if I'm making the final decisions,

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Speaker 4: I probably let guys that were young give them too

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Speaker 4: much freedom too early because they don't understand how to

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Speaker 4: given them too much freedom, and that's something that I've learned.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm better at that I think I'm able

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Speaker 4: why it makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: What about your style as a coach really kind of

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Speaker 1: But have you found yourself evolving and changing in how

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Speaker 3: No, not really.

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Speaker 4: I still think we provide a structure, but you can

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Speaker 4: it gives guys freedom. I would say when you asked

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Speaker 1: How more discipline them away.

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Speaker 4: If you loaf, if you don't guard, you got to

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Speaker 1: But you do it in a confrontational or non confrontational.

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Speaker 4: Way, in a very firm way, And it depends on

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Speaker 4: how much you resist to where it can become more confrecational.

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Speaker 4: But then there comes a point where there's no confrontation

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Speaker 3: That's it. No confrontation, right, there's you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's right, sit there, and they mumbled to themselves, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead over there with d're out.

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Speaker 5: They figure it out.

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Speaker 1: How do you handle losing? Because not very well? Right,

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Speaker 1: But again, you look back and there were a couple

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Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament than you would sometimes in the league, right,

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Speaker 1: make runs and in the Pac ten tournament, but you haven't.

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Speaker 1: But when you take a program that was where was

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Speaker 1: when you got there, you're gonna lose for a guy

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Speaker 1: who's won, and then you know, you play guarantees and

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Speaker 5: Those are hard.

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Speaker 1: How do you emotionally handle the losing that eventually leads

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Speaker 3: I probably handle it.

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Speaker 4: It's tougher as a leader because the buck stops with you,

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, as a leader, you got

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Speaker 3: And as a result of that, I'm not one to

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to motivate them to find out how we

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Speaker 4: All of that, everyone has an answer, they can solve

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Speaker 3: Just a whole plethora of issues come in.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Houston obviously a really talented kid, right and

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Speaker 1: Now you've won to ask the championship. You've been a

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Speaker 1: How do you teach them to win the games that

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Speaker 5: But you've lost.

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Speaker 4: Continue to teach the things we've been teaching. Continue to

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Speaker 4: you gotta win one.

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Speaker 5: What are your not negotiators?

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Speaker 4: Again, You're gonna play hard. Bottom line, you're gonna play hard,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna share the ball. If you do those things,

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Speaker 4: I can. So if that's their mindset coming in, you

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Speaker 4: you know that's difficult to do. But once all of

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Speaker 4: then you gotta win two, and then there's buy in.

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Speaker 4: People forget you mentioned at the University of Washington, we

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Speaker 4: So you just got to get over the hump, keep

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Speaker 1: Last thing, it's a long year, right, I got the

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Speaker 5: Dude's been practicing a while.

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Speaker 1: How do you manage how much you want to get

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Speaker 5: Focus for law, like, what are you like?

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Speaker 1: In terms of grinding them in practice now and as

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Speaker 4: Season, continue to continue to explain why you're doing something?

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Speaker 4: Why is this so important?

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Speaker 5: They want to know the why?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, when they know the why, this is the

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Speaker 4: if we don't get this down, it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Useonson, what happened when we were at BYU

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Speaker 4: and we had the game won, coach, the same thing.

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Speaker 4: We didn't box out. This didn't happen. So we'll show you.

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Speaker 4: You continue to point those things out day in and

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Speaker 4: and try to explain why that day, why that drill

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 5: What's the ceiling for this team?

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Speaker 4: I think when everyone's healthy, which we are right all

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Speaker 4: I think we could we could have a chance to

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Speaker 4: play postseason basketball.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I want to catch up again.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to the deep dive into all

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Speaker 1: the history stuff, all right, chance, But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: it's always great to catch up with you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, man appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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