Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: Everybody's Bucky Brooks and Lance z represent to day on
Speaker 3: the Movie six podcasts.
Speaker 4: Lance, what is going on? How you hold it up?
Speaker 2: In this free agent friends?
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, it started off hot and heavy.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it didn't with all the trades
Speaker 1: that got it kicked off.
Speaker 5: I was like the pre pre free.
Speaker 1: Agency, and you got DK moving, and you got Geno moving,
Speaker 1: and the quarterback carousels shuffling. And then here in Houston,
Speaker 1: you know, you got off of Laramie Tunsel and the
Speaker 1: trade and all these free agent signings are coming in.
Speaker 5: It's crazy to see, like how quickly.
Speaker 1: The money has escalated at so many positions. It's like,
Speaker 1: I can't even process Daniel Jones getting fourteen million. But
Speaker 1: then when you look, you know at backup rates, especially
Speaker 1: backups who may have a chance to start.
Speaker 5: Like, that's what backup quarterbacks make.
Speaker 1: Now you get at you get fourteen million, that's not
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what they make. That's what they're
Speaker 2: always gonna make.
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy, right because you think about the
Speaker 3: money that Justin Fields got from the Jets, which puts
Speaker 3: him at twenty million per Look, you gotta guaranteed I
Speaker 3: love it. But he is the lowest paid starter of
Speaker 3: anyone that's not a rookie. And then Daniel Jones goes
Speaker 3: into Naptown competing with Anthony Richardson, and you got to
Speaker 3: think that he is on the inside track to win
Speaker 3: that job. He's making fourteen million dollars. You have Geno
Speaker 3: Smith swapped out in the Pacific Northwest. Sam Donald comes
Speaker 3: in to Seattle and basically signs the Baker Mayfield contract
Speaker 3: plus a little a little extra little sprinkle on top.
Speaker 3: It's Look, it's crazy to think about, like the quarterback carousel,
Speaker 3: how it's spinning and we're still waiting to see what
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and New York are going to do respectively. In
Speaker 3: the names that you hear out here, Russell Wilson, you
Speaker 3: have Aaron Rodgers. I mean, I don't know if there's
Speaker 3: anybody else outside of that. If I'm Russell Wilson, I'm
Speaker 3: you know how we used to play that musical chairs, Yeah,
Speaker 3: on the yard and they get the one chair and
Speaker 3: they're spinning around. Yeah, they better hurry up and figure
Speaker 3: it out because not many seats left for the dance.
Speaker 1: No, no, there's not, and you know, they gotta they
Speaker 1: gotta get this thing, like Rogers going to Pittsburgh. It
Speaker 1: feels like it's a done I mean, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say done deal, but it's feeling like
Speaker 1: there's just you're out of you're out of spots, you're
Speaker 1: out of chairs, as you said, and you're out of
Speaker 1: people playing the game.
Speaker 5: So if Aaron gets that last spot, I.
Speaker 1: Don't I don't know what happens to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens to to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know where Russ Russ goes.
Speaker 1: He'll have to go somewhere where he's got a chance
Speaker 1: to compete as a starter, or he's got.
Speaker 5: A chance to be a really above average.
Speaker 1: Backup, a good backup who can step in and start
Speaker 1: and maybe win some games for you. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see. I know this though, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: the Geno Smith move for the Raiders.
Speaker 5: I thought that was interesting. I don't know if that
Speaker 5: says something about their thoughts.
Speaker 1: About shod Or Sanders, if if they don't think Shador
Speaker 1: is the guy that they want to target and they
Speaker 1: want to bridge quarterback for the next you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years, a year so that they can kick
Speaker 1: the can down the road for a quarterback, maybe in
Speaker 1: a in a different round other than first round, or
Speaker 1: maybe in a different year. I don't know if it means, hey,
Speaker 1: let's put him here and we'll still draft Shad or
Speaker 1: Sanders sixth. You know, the conversations that I got into
Speaker 1: at the combine, I just didn't find the NFL teams.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really about attitude. It was really about they
Speaker 1: just they had a second round or third round.
Speaker 3: Great on them, and that's that's that's bananas. But look
Speaker 3: it only it only takes one, Yeah, it is. It
Speaker 3: is funny though, because of the conversation and we'll have
Speaker 3: this extended conversation on these quarterbacks. It's so interesting to
Speaker 3: me to hear the conversation about Shador Sanders and people say, oh,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have this, but then the that Tyler Shutt
Speaker 3: is getting over whatever, and I'm like, man, if you
Speaker 3: look at their collech's careers, it's not even close in
Speaker 3: terms of the production and what they've accomplished. But here's
Speaker 3: where we are at this state of the process. And
Speaker 3: it's funny you brought up Shaduur Sanders. I feel like
Speaker 3: every podcast has to do it. But Lance, what if
Speaker 3: I told you that, I'm looking at the move that
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns made to acquire Kenny Pickett. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it leads me to believe that Shaduur Sanders would be
Speaker 3: the pick for them when they take a quarterback.
Speaker 5: I could see it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they do it with the second pick,
Speaker 1: but see in my last mock, I had them taking
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter and then moving back into the first because
Speaker 1: they have two third round picks, So I had them
Speaker 1: moving back in the first and taking Shador Sanders, you
Speaker 1: know in the twenties.
Speaker 5: I actually could see that. I actually could see that,
Speaker 5: because then you.
Speaker 1: Got you got a chance to have a real competition,
Speaker 1: and you really you want in that situation, I think
Speaker 1: you would want Shador to win that job. A lot
Speaker 1: of times you want quarterback, you know, to sit behind veterans.
Speaker 1: That could be the case in Cleveland. It gives you
Speaker 1: the option either way if that were to happen, If
Speaker 1: you draft should door with the second pick of the draft,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If it changes how you approach the quarterback situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's never a bad thing for a rookie to get
Speaker 1: sometimes with mental reps on the bench and kind of
Speaker 1: but the one different, the thing that's different with Shaudors
Speaker 1: I think he's he's wired a little.
Speaker 5: Differently than some of these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I think he's actually he's a guy who I think
Speaker 1: has a lot of confidence. I don't think he's easily shaken.
Speaker 1: So I mean, to me, I think should Or Sanders
Speaker 1: maybe could handle man. There's always the speed of the
Speaker 1: game and the x's and o's and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for any any rookie. But sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel like should Or Sanders might be able to
Speaker 1: handle a little more of the pressure of the glare
Speaker 1: than maybe any of the other quarterbacks in this draft.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things that I kind of like
Speaker 1: about him. Doesn't have an elite arm, doesn't even have
Speaker 1: I think he has a very average arm, but he
Speaker 1: throws with accuracy. It's just it's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 1: see where he goes. But I did wonder, though, to
Speaker 1: keep it to put it back in free agency, Buck,
Speaker 1: I did wonder how many of these moves were directly
Speaker 1: tied to looking at this quarterback draft and saying, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pass this year, or we're gonna pass in
Speaker 1: the first round. Then all bets are off in the
Speaker 1: second or third round. You know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that plays out, you know.
Speaker 3: So I do think the run on quarterbacks that we've
Speaker 3: seen in free agency is a direct, kind of direct
Speaker 3: reaction to what everyone had a chance to see from
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks of the combine.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The reason why I mentioned Kenny Pickett maybe paving the
Speaker 3: way for shir Dr Sanders to go there had little
Speaker 3: to do with the pick, whether it's the second pick
Speaker 3: or whatever. Stylistically, a lot of times you see people
Speaker 3: stacked a quarterback room with similar types. And so when
Speaker 3: you see the Browns move off of dtr athletic playmaker,
Speaker 3: they send him out, they bring Kenny Pickett in, who's
Speaker 3: more of a.
Speaker 2: Traditional pocket passer.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is Kevin Stefanski saying, hey, let's ready our playbook,
Speaker 3: let's ready our scheme for someone that is more of
Speaker 3: a traditional passer as opposed to what we had in
Speaker 3: the past, where we had these athletic quarterbacks, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, they kind of had a Hodgepies.
Speaker 3: They had Deshaun who was athletic, Jameis dtr and none
Speaker 3: of the pieces fit. Maybe this is Kevin Stefanski saying, Hey,
Speaker 3: I want to make sure everybody in this room is
Speaker 3: kind of similarly skilled, so I don't have to do
Speaker 3: multiple learning, create multiple playbooks for our offense to operate
Speaker 3: if one of those guys is not in the lineup, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Let's get intel. That's a that's a good way to
Speaker 5: think of that, you know.
Speaker 1: And you don't know. This is Kenny Pickett's fourth year.
Speaker 1: I think he had two of Pittsburgh won last year.
Speaker 1: You know, Kenny kind of came out of nowhere. He
Speaker 1: was one year wonder out of pit. The numbers is
Speaker 1: last year didn't match.
Speaker 5: Any of the other numbers. They were crazy.
Speaker 1: And so maybe he's a guy that kind of gets
Speaker 1: it a little bit now in year four. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: ready to, you know, to be a bridge quarterback for
Speaker 1: another quarterback coming. I don't know if he's ready to
Speaker 1: pull a full on Saam Darnold, but you never know, I.
Speaker 5: Mean you never know. I mean he did have some
Speaker 5: talent coming out.
Speaker 1: There was I thought the poise was something in the
Speaker 1: pocket that kind of bothered me a little bit coming
Speaker 1: out of college. I didn't think he handled it great
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, but that was a lot to put.
Speaker 5: On his plate in Pittsburgh as well.
Speaker 1: There are some really big wide receiver personalities in that room.
Speaker 1: They can make it a little tougher on quarterbacks sometime
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 5: So you never know. You never know. But free agency
Speaker 5: is off.
Speaker 1: And running, and man, these numbers are crazy. What do
Speaker 1: you think about Miles Garrett resigning? I thought he was like, oh, you.
Speaker 4: Mean the guy who said he never gonna put the
Speaker 4: uniform on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, funny Lance, It's funny when they slide that big
Speaker 3: old check over there.
Speaker 4: Amazing on a lot of things that you said, Oh
Speaker 4: you know, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2: I need to be with a winner.
Speaker 4: That the contender got a Lance, we'll pay you.
Speaker 2: For you for Hey, you know what, I'm back. I
Speaker 2: love it here. I would never leave Lake Erie. This
Speaker 2: is what I've always wanted.
Speaker 3: Grace, guys and and snow like, this is a perfect
Speaker 3: place for me to build a family.
Speaker 2: And but Bruce down, I'm exact.
Speaker 4: I think. Look, I never thought the Cleveland Browns were going.
Speaker 3: To move off of Miles Garrett when you talked about
Speaker 3: the kind of talent that he is. I mean, what
Speaker 3: four straight seasons where he's had over fifteen fourteen or
Speaker 3: fifteen sacks.
Speaker 2: He's been a dominant player.
Speaker 3: He is one of the guys that we absolutely can
Speaker 3: put the generational talent tag on. He's been as advertised
Speaker 3: for the Browns, and I understand why they wanted to
Speaker 3: pay him.
Speaker 2: And I also understood why when.
Speaker 3: They give you eighty eight million dollars to sign, why
Speaker 3: you signed it right away And You're like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm ever going win, but I'm certainly
Speaker 3: gonna be uh rich rich and I may have a
Speaker 3: chance to go down the street and and and and
Speaker 3: kind of find a new bust in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: So I understand that part of it.
Speaker 5: I've got.
Speaker 1: You know, I really wonder if he just said, if
Speaker 1: he came to the realization that Cleveland wasn't gonna move him,
Speaker 1: and he just said, I might as well take a.
Speaker 5: Bunch of money, then, you know, I mean, because.
Speaker 1: I do, I can't see how he would want to
Speaker 1: get out and try and see what it's like to
Speaker 1: win to win at a high a higher level, because
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It feels like Cleveland's got a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do right now there, so
Speaker 1: give so many picks. I mean that Sean Watson stuff
Speaker 1: was just such a killer for that organization. And I
Speaker 1: can see him wanting to get out. Man, I can't
Speaker 1: I understand it. He wants to go out and have
Speaker 1: a chance.
Speaker 5: But uh, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, if you don't think you're going to you might
Speaker 1: as well take you might as well take that that payday.
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Speaker 3: Lance, I'm gonna get on you because I know this
Speaker 3: used to be your man before he became the.
Speaker 4: GM of the Chicago Bears. The Bears have gone all
Speaker 4: in on trying to upgrade their squad.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about what the Bears have done in
Speaker 3: free agency, whether you like it or not. The first
Speaker 3: thing they went out and did they upgraded the offensive line.
Speaker 3: Acquired Jonah Jackson be a trade from the Rams for
Speaker 3: a six round pick. Joe Thuni comes over in a
Speaker 3: trade from the Chiefs for a fourth round pick in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Drew Dolman his son three year, forty
Speaker 3: two million dollars contract, twenty eight million guaranteed.
Speaker 4: Lance Your boy Ryan Poles has been listening.
Speaker 2: He's been listening to X He's been listening to the streets.
Speaker 3: He's trying to fix the offensive line so that this
Speaker 3: team can pop.
Speaker 2: What do you think about what the moves?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, protect Kayla Williams or you're gone
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the gms that is in
Speaker 1: the crosshairs right now and he needs to win. He
Speaker 1: needs to show growth. And the best way to do
Speaker 1: that is show that the guy you drafted first ahead
Speaker 1: of Jayden Daniels is up there in the same category
Speaker 1: with Jayden Daniels. And the best way to do that
Speaker 1: is before you can tell if he is or not,
Speaker 1: you got to protect him and you got to give
Speaker 1: him a chance.
Speaker 5: Now, he's got to stop hanging on the ball so.
Speaker 2: Long and all that.
Speaker 5: But you know, you you added good football players.
Speaker 1: I think Jonah Jackson is solid.
Speaker 5: You know, Joe Toney is a good guard. He'll be
Speaker 5: a good player for you.
Speaker 1: Drew Dolman allows you to He's a zone scheme center
Speaker 1: who can get out in space and get to angles
Speaker 1: and and I think he can help the run game
Speaker 1: from his own scheme standpoint. Ben Johnson, I would assume
Speaker 1: had maybe some say in these guys.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he really got in there, and
Speaker 1: if he even has an opinion on offensive line, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But you know, because Drew Dolmen is a
Speaker 1: is his zone scheme center, I think that that kind
Speaker 1: of tells you what they're going to uh, what they're
Speaker 1: going to be heavy into in Chicago. But I like
Speaker 1: it for Ryan Pols because you didn't give up any
Speaker 1: first round picks, you had a lot of money to spend.
Speaker 1: You immediately went after the offensive line. If you want
Speaker 1: to really swing the sword, you can go at the
Speaker 1: first You can go at an offensive lineman in the
Speaker 1: first round with the UH with the tenth pick, or
Speaker 1: maybe Trey Back still get a left tackle if you
Speaker 1: want to put competition over there at the left tackle spot.
Speaker 1: Or you know now you are close enough to being
Speaker 1: where you need to be that you can maybe wait
Speaker 1: a full round, maybe even two rounds before you attack
Speaker 1: another tackle position. I still think I still think they
Speaker 1: need competition at the left tackle spot. So it wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me if they looked at tackle with the first
Speaker 1: round pick.
Speaker 5: But I like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's given us, he's given himself a chance,
Speaker 1: he's got some weapons on offense. Polls I'm talking about
Speaker 1: and now Caleb Williams. Now now I will say the
Speaker 1: wide receiver spot. It will also be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what they do a wide receiver because DJ Moore didn't.
Speaker 5: Do a whole lot. Keenan Allen's best days are gone obviously.
Speaker 5: Roma Dunza is the dude, you know.
Speaker 1: I think they'll look I think they'll look at tightening
Speaker 1: up the wide receiver spot as well.
Speaker 5: But I like it for me.
Speaker 1: I mean, you knew it wasn't where it needed to be.
Speaker 1: We got money to spend, let's go get some guys.
Speaker 2: No, So I like it.
Speaker 3: In terms of Ben Johnson leaning into what made them
Speaker 3: successful in Detroit, I think it's really important as a
Speaker 3: head coach and play caller that you know the ingredients
Speaker 3: that served you well in Detroit. Detroit became the monster
Speaker 3: because of that offensive line being able to dominate. They
Speaker 3: have versatility up front that could go from zone scheme
Speaker 3: to gap skiing. They could bully you at the point
Speaker 3: of attack because they had some monsters and these are
Speaker 3: solid players.
Speaker 2: I can't say that they're the bullies that he left.
Speaker 3: In Motown, but it certainly gives them an opportunity to
Speaker 3: be who they want to be. On offense, you're playing
Speaker 3: in the Windy City. You're dealing with the elements. You're
Speaker 3: also dealing with the division that prize itself in physicality
Speaker 3: and toughness. The only way to beat the bullies is
Speaker 3: you got to be able to hit the bully in
Speaker 3: the mouth.
Speaker 2: A better served to hit the bully in their mouth.
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they might have set their
Speaker 3: quarterback up for more success because they finally have an
Speaker 3: offensive line and they may have a commitment to the
Speaker 3: running game. They should allow Caleb Williams to have success
Speaker 3: and Grady Jarrett.
Speaker 5: They added Grady Jarrett in the middle too, So I
Speaker 5: know it's I know it's not.
Speaker 1: It's on the other side, we're still talking trench football
Speaker 1: because the Lions, you know, build the trenches.
Speaker 5: Build the trenches both sides of them.
Speaker 1: And let's go get a Jamier Gibbs and A and
Speaker 1: A and a MC David Montgomery, let's go wreck you.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of what you know. They've got all
Speaker 5: the right little pieces in place and so, but but
Speaker 5: it starts in the trenches.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That's that's where the uh that's where the heart and
Speaker 1: soul of teams a lot of times beat and you
Speaker 1: got to get that right. And I think Ryan Poles
Speaker 1: was doing everything he can't. It may it may work,
Speaker 1: it may not work, but he needs it to work
Speaker 1: right away for job security. I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: question about that.
Speaker 2: It absolutely has to work.
Speaker 3: And I would say this, I think if you pair
Speaker 3: uh DeAndre Swift with maybe a guy like Caleb Johnson
Speaker 3: that blend someone that is more like David Montgomery to
Speaker 3: Jamior Gibbs, that might work.
Speaker 5: How about dreaming Me?
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Speaker 3: I love having conversations. I have to make this an
Speaker 3: abbreviated one because it's gotta go jump on free agent friends.
Speaker 2: So here's what we can do.
Speaker 3: We're gonna work it out where we come back and
Speaker 3: we kind of complete the podcast because I feel like
Speaker 3: we kind of cheated the people.
Speaker 2: There's so many moves.
Speaker 3: But after Wednesday, we'll at least know where most of
Speaker 3: the movers and shakers are going. So maybe late in
Speaker 3: the week, me and you hop back on the podcast
Speaker 3: and kind of scrimmage it all out and talk about
Speaker 3: the moves that we're there and you.
Speaker 1: Too.
Speaker 4: Until then, y'all make sure you're watching this from network.
Speaker 2: Check the ticket to see where everyone is going. I
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