1 00:00:16,660 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to My Favorite Murder, the mini-sode. 2 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:21,340 Speaker 2: Special edition. 3 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,980 Speaker 1: Grandparents edition. 4 00:00:23,270 --> 00:00:24,470 Speaker 2: We did that so smooth. 5 00:00:24,690 --> 00:00:27,050 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like we memorized our lines earlier. 6 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:28,290 Speaker 2: You want to go first? 7 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:32,030 Speaker 1: Yes. So yesterday was Grandparents Day, and of course we... 8 00:00:32,590 --> 00:00:36,010 Speaker 1: love and respect and admire all grandparents. So we thought 9 00:00:36,030 --> 00:00:39,900 Speaker 1: it'd be the perfect time to do a Grandparents Day 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,300 Speaker 1: spectacular here on the Minnesota. 11 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:44,620 Speaker 2: And you guys know we love grandparent stories. 12 00:00:45,380 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: And you know personally about me that my example always 13 00:00:49,620 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: when I'm talking, especially when we were trying to do 14 00:00:51,620 --> 00:00:54,910 Speaker 1: the combo stories, my example was always a grandma and 15 00:00:54,990 --> 00:00:55,550 Speaker 1: Al Capone. 16 00:00:55,730 --> 00:00:57,130 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you have one? 17 00:00:57,250 --> 00:00:58,590 Speaker 1: Grandma Al Capone story. 18 00:00:58,610 --> 00:00:59,380 Speaker 2: Holy shit. 19 00:00:59,410 --> 00:01:02,980 Speaker 1: And then in parentheses it says, kinda. Which is fair enough. 20 00:01:03,140 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: It's perfectly done. It starts, hi, hi. I heard on 21 00:01:07,940 --> 00:01:11,140 Speaker 1: your 500th mini-sode that you were looking for combination stories. 22 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:13,270 Speaker 1: And when I heard you say the combination of Al 23 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:17,250 Speaker 1: Capone and grandmas, that's my standing example. I knew I 24 00:01:17,290 --> 00:01:20,170 Speaker 1: had a story for you. I'm from Windsor, Ontario. 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: You have an Ontario mug. 26 00:01:23,950 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: As if the Lord made me drink this coffee. 27 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:28,819 Speaker 2: I remember when you bought that. I think I was 28 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:29,300 Speaker 2: there with you. 29 00:01:29,459 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: You were? 30 00:01:29,819 --> 00:01:30,220 Speaker 2: Yeah. 31 00:01:30,860 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: In the Starbucks in Ontario? 32 00:01:32,819 --> 00:01:32,899 Speaker 2: Yeah. 33 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:34,220 Speaker 1: Or did someone send it to us? 34 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: No, I think you bought it. Okay. I think I 35 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: remember you buying that one. 36 00:01:37,459 --> 00:01:38,309 Speaker 1: I really do love it. 37 00:01:38,420 --> 00:01:38,980 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: And it's got your seafoam green. I love that. I'm 39 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,460 Speaker 1: from Windsor, Ontario in Canada, which is right across the 40 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: border from Detroit, Michigan. I thought they were going to 41 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:51,090 Speaker 1: say it's right across the border from you guys. Yes, 42 00:01:51,130 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: you're the land next door. We know. During the 13 43 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: years of U.S. Prohibition, Windsor was a major bootlegging hub. 44 00:01:58,460 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: The area was nicknamed the Windsor-Detroit Funnel. Did you know 45 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: any of this? Because of all the alcohol that was 46 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,530 Speaker 1: being run across the river, my great-grandpa, my grandma's dad, 47 00:02:08,650 --> 00:02:10,930 Speaker 1: was a rum runner, one of the people who smuggled 48 00:02:10,970 --> 00:02:11,450 Speaker 1: the alcohol. 49 00:02:11,470 --> 00:02:11,750 Speaker 2: Got it. 50 00:02:12,130 --> 00:02:14,169 Speaker 1: He died before I was born, and I've been told 51 00:02:14,230 --> 00:02:17,410 Speaker 1: that although he didn't talk much about his activities, he 52 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:20,590 Speaker 1: met Al Capone. Whoa. When my grandma was young, her 53 00:02:20,650 --> 00:02:23,410 Speaker 1: home was robbed at gunpoint. They cut the telephone lines 54 00:02:23,470 --> 00:02:26,630 Speaker 1: before they entered and tied her to a chair. I 55 00:02:26,669 --> 00:02:28,669 Speaker 1: guess it was believed that this was the work of 56 00:02:28,770 --> 00:02:31,130 Speaker 1: Al Capone's guys or something because they seemed to be 57 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: looking for something specific on top of money. During the robbery, 58 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: they went through a bunch of their paperwork and things, 59 00:02:37,940 --> 00:02:40,660 Speaker 1: and obviously they did not clean up after themselves when 60 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:43,419 Speaker 1: they left. Later, when my grandma was helping clean up, 61 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: she came across her own adoption paper. 62 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh! I mean, trauma on trauma. 63 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:52,290 Speaker 1: This is, we thought we were getting an Al Capone story. 64 00:02:52,310 --> 00:02:56,609 Speaker 1: Holy shit. And that's how simply it could happen back then. 65 00:02:56,730 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: You didn't have to have a, what do you call it? 66 00:02:59,310 --> 00:02:59,910 Speaker 2: DNA test. 67 00:03:00,050 --> 00:03:02,470 Speaker 1: No, it was none of that Ancestry.com stuff. 68 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,220 Speaker 2: It was like. Almost too far-fetched. 69 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: One little drawer in that grandpa's roll-top desk. 70 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: Let me help after being tied up and fucking robbed. 71 00:03:10,540 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: Yes, you're right. 72 00:03:11,660 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: Oh, hey, what's this? 73 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 74 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:14,530 Speaker 2: On top. 75 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:16,090 Speaker 1: It's total trauma Sunday. Oh. 76 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,780 Speaker 2: Two veterans in an episode that we could name Trauma Sunday. Oh, 77 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: God damn it. Save it. 78 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,300 Speaker 1: What do you like on your Trauma Sunday? Pineapple sauce? 79 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:25,340 Speaker 1: Because that's traumatic. 80 00:03:25,419 --> 00:03:26,020 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 81 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: This is how she found out that the people she 82 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,899 Speaker 1: thought were her parents were actually her grandparents. They adopted 83 00:03:31,940 --> 00:03:35,380 Speaker 1: her and her sister was actually her mother. Yeah. Yikes. 84 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,940 Speaker 1: Growing up, I was always told that my grandma was adopted, 85 00:03:38,030 --> 00:03:41,300 Speaker 1: so we didn't know much about her side of the family. Hey, 86 00:03:41,340 --> 00:03:43,340 Speaker 1: so that is a very different story. 87 00:03:43,460 --> 00:03:43,700 Speaker 2: Yeah. 88 00:03:45,260 --> 00:03:47,740 Speaker 1: The reason I found out this whole story is that 89 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: I started performing in a local bus tour group about 90 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:54,180 Speaker 1: rum running. A local bus tour group. 91 00:03:54,380 --> 00:03:55,820 Speaker 2: Must be like a haunting tour. 92 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 93 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,420 Speaker 2: Like they ride around and be like, that building right 94 00:03:59,440 --> 00:03:59,980 Speaker 2: there is. 95 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:04,430 Speaker 1: Where Al Capone. And she's playing Al Capone. I'm assuming 96 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:07,690 Speaker 1: it's a woman. It's got to be. A local bus 97 00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:10,310 Speaker 1: tour group about run-rumming in Windsor and my mom casually 98 00:04:10,350 --> 00:04:12,690 Speaker 1: brought it up like it was a normal story. I 99 00:04:12,730 --> 00:04:15,230 Speaker 1: know this might not be exactly the Grandma Al Capone 100 00:04:15,250 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: story you were looking for, but I thought it could count. 101 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,270 Speaker 1: Thank you, Lexi. 102 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: It all counts, Lexi. 103 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Lexi, you sharing your story about your family, even if 104 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: there was never a label that we had asked for, 105 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:28,979 Speaker 1: it's always valid. 106 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,500 Speaker 2: It's a good one. 107 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: You get Al Capone in there, we're listening. 108 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: That's us. Okay, well... This one's called Grandma, a Clown, 109 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,700 Speaker 2: and Kidnappers. Lighthearted. Hello, Karen, Georgia, and the person screening 110 00:04:45,820 --> 00:04:48,730 Speaker 2: emails for the show. My sister told me I had 111 00:04:48,770 --> 00:04:50,570 Speaker 2: to listen to you guys, forcing me to join the 112 00:04:50,630 --> 00:04:53,849 Speaker 2: ranks of every single other person whose sister forced them 113 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:56,890 Speaker 2: onto the podcast. Thanks to her, I have been a 114 00:04:56,910 --> 00:04:59,180 Speaker 2: loyal listener for a long time, and I realized I 115 00:04:59,210 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: have a hometown story that needed to be shared. While 116 00:05:02,130 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: my cousins were growing up in the suburbs of Chicago, 117 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,860 Speaker 2: my grandma had a side hustle that made her an 118 00:05:07,020 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: absolute legend in our family. 119 00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:08,930 Speaker 1: Yes. 120 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:16,300 Speaker 2: She was a children's birthday party clown named Bubblegum the Clown. Naturally, 121 00:05:16,339 --> 00:05:17,980 Speaker 2: we called her Grandma Bubblegum. 122 00:05:18,020 --> 00:05:20,290 Speaker 1: Hold on a second. I need to say that I 123 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:23,650 Speaker 1: think this has changed my vote permanently about clowns. Because 124 00:05:23,690 --> 00:05:27,450 Speaker 1: if it's a grandma clown, your birthday party is a dream. 125 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:31,870 Speaker 2: Is it? No. I don't know. I still, you know. 126 00:05:31,890 --> 00:05:34,390 Speaker 1: You're saying the quality of the grandma is very crucial? 127 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:38,750 Speaker 2: Absolutely. One summer day, Grandma Bubblegum had just finished working 128 00:05:38,770 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: a gig and came straight over to my aunt's house 129 00:05:41,060 --> 00:05:43,860 Speaker 2: in full clown attire and makeup to watch my cousins 130 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: for a couple of minutes to help bridge the gap 131 00:05:45,740 --> 00:05:48,300 Speaker 2: between my aunt leaving for work and my uncle coming home. 132 00:05:48,940 --> 00:05:51,710 Speaker 2: My oldest cousin, Kevin, who was always a little shit 133 00:05:52,190 --> 00:05:54,550 Speaker 2: and made it his personal mission to push her buttons, 134 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:58,030 Speaker 2: decided he wasn't having it. Hmm. The second she walked in, 135 00:05:58,130 --> 00:06:00,530 Speaker 2: he bolted out the front door and took off down 136 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:03,770 Speaker 2: the street on his bicycle. Without missing a beat, my 137 00:06:03,790 --> 00:06:07,660 Speaker 2: grandma took off sprinting after him down the road, still 138 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: in full head-to-toe clown makeup and costume. That's right, running. Kevin, 139 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: leaning completely into the drama, started screaming at the top 140 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,210 Speaker 2: of his lungs, help, help, a crazy clown is chasing me. Kevin, 141 00:06:22,270 --> 00:06:23,370 Speaker 2: you little shit. 142 00:06:23,390 --> 00:06:24,170 Speaker 1: Kevin, goddammit. 143 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: He led the chase straight towards the packed public pool 144 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,539 Speaker 2: down the block, still screaming about the deranged clown that 145 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,610 Speaker 2: was closing in on him. 146 00:06:32,110 --> 00:06:35,950 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Kevin's really manipulating the, like, public fears. 147 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:36,330 Speaker 2: Totally. 148 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:40,539 Speaker 1: Because almost no one's going to stop and be like, no, 149 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,620 Speaker 1: I'm sure that clown is his grandma. 150 00:06:42,660 --> 00:06:45,390 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. Of course not. Right as they reached the pool, 151 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:47,869 Speaker 2: my uncle happened to be driving by in his work van, 152 00:06:48,370 --> 00:06:52,029 Speaker 2: saw the absolute circus unfolding, pulled over, and grabbed my 153 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:53,850 Speaker 2: cousin and his bike and put them in the van. 154 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:57,510 Speaker 2: As he did that, my grandma caught up and jumped in. Oh. 155 00:06:57,770 --> 00:06:59,669 Speaker 2: My uncle drove them all to the house where Kevin 156 00:06:59,830 --> 00:07:03,029 Speaker 2: undoubtedly received a harsh 90s-style grounding. 157 00:07:04,170 --> 00:07:05,470 Speaker 1: You mean five across the eyes? Exactly. 158 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:09,330 Speaker 2: Shortly after they made it back inside the house, there 159 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: was a deafening, aggressive pounding on the door. My uncle 160 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,460 Speaker 2: went to answer it, wondering who on earth was banging 161 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:16,970 Speaker 2: like that, and pulled it open to find a half 162 00:07:17,030 --> 00:07:21,230 Speaker 2: dozen police officers with their guns drawn. Good. Thank you. 163 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:23,950 Speaker 2: The lead cop looked him dead in the eye and 164 00:07:24,090 --> 00:07:27,700 Speaker 2: asked in the most serious voice imaginable, where's the clown? 165 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Because you can't tell gender in a clown either, like 166 00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: full clown. I have a photo of Grandma Bubblegum. Okay. 167 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:38,670 Speaker 2: Turns out the pool goers hit 911 with the speed 168 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,010 Speaker 2: of people watching a true crime reenactment come to life. 169 00:07:41,530 --> 00:07:44,050 Speaker 2: Fully convinced John Wayne Gacy was back on the loose 170 00:07:44,190 --> 00:07:46,910 Speaker 2: and a local creep was helping him finish the job 171 00:07:47,150 --> 00:07:48,230 Speaker 2: like a fucking work van. 172 00:07:48,350 --> 00:07:52,190 Speaker 1: Yeah. The work van, everyone jumping in is bad. 173 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:55,060 Speaker 2: Thankfully, my uncle and my grandma managed to talk the 174 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:58,070 Speaker 2: cops down and they left without taking Bubblegum the Clown 175 00:07:58,150 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: into custody. This, of course, instantly became a favorite story 176 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,860 Speaker 2: to tell at every family gathering, much to my grandma's 177 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,140 Speaker 2: eternal annoyance. She would just sit there scowling while we 178 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,010 Speaker 2: all laughed along with whoever was telling it. To this day, 179 00:08:11,090 --> 00:08:12,230 Speaker 2: whenever anyone in our family. 180 00:08:12,250 --> 00:08:14,190 Speaker 1: Still in the clown makeup that's really mad. 181 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:16,230 Speaker 2: She accidentally put permanent clown makeup on or she could 182 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:19,830 Speaker 2: never get it off. Oh, man. To this day, whenever 183 00:08:19,910 --> 00:08:21,810 Speaker 2: anyone in our family wants to make the rest of 184 00:08:21,870 --> 00:08:24,030 Speaker 2: us laugh, we just hold up finger guns and ask 185 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:26,970 Speaker 2: in a deadpan, dead serious voice, where is the clown? 186 00:08:26,990 --> 00:08:27,590 Speaker 1: So good. 187 00:08:27,870 --> 00:08:31,550 Speaker 2: Grandma Bubblegum's name was Nancy. She passed away in 2020, 188 00:08:31,550 --> 00:08:34,100 Speaker 2: but she was an absolute badass. Not only did she 189 00:08:34,130 --> 00:08:37,580 Speaker 2: beat cancer twice, raised three kids, and fiercely loved all 190 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,980 Speaker 2: eight of her grandkids— even the one who almost got 191 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,660 Speaker 2: her arrested. She fucked politeness before it was popular. She 192 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,970 Speaker 2: was one of the good ones. I miss her every day. 193 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:49,190 Speaker 2: Karen and Georgia, you are both amazing. Thank you for 194 00:08:49,230 --> 00:08:51,969 Speaker 2: helping me get through earning my bachelor's degree in marketing, 195 00:08:52,750 --> 00:08:55,309 Speaker 2: then switching paths to get my teaching certificate because I 196 00:08:55,390 --> 00:08:57,900 Speaker 2: wanted to be someone who made a difference. I'm now 197 00:08:57,940 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: in my third year teaching and truly believe I found 198 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,059 Speaker 2: my calling. 199 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:01,500 Speaker 1: Nice. 200 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,819 Speaker 2: You are my favorite aunts that I never met, even 201 00:09:03,860 --> 00:09:06,059 Speaker 2: though you have forgotten my birthday every year. 202 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: What do you think this fucking podcast is? 203 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:13,369 Speaker 2: It's your birthday podcast. I have attached a picture of 204 00:09:13,410 --> 00:09:16,710 Speaker 2: my grandma as Bubblegum the Clown. Stay sexy. Trust your gut. 205 00:09:16,809 --> 00:09:19,030 Speaker 2: And when in doubt, ask, where's the clown? 206 00:09:19,170 --> 00:09:19,429 Speaker 1: Yes. 207 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:21,610 Speaker 2: Best, Jenny. Here she is. 208 00:09:21,630 --> 00:09:22,830 Speaker 1: Jenny, show us your grandma. 209 00:09:22,970 --> 00:09:27,410 Speaker 2: It's a little terrifying. Nancy, I love you. It's a 210 00:09:27,470 --> 00:09:28,309 Speaker 2: little terrifying. 211 00:09:28,410 --> 00:09:31,580 Speaker 1: Nancy, your wig covers your ears. It looks like you 212 00:09:31,620 --> 00:09:34,689 Speaker 1: have secrets. There's all there's all kinds of you know, 213 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: there's a whole like science and the. system to the 214 00:09:38,220 --> 00:09:38,780 Speaker 1: clown makeup. 215 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,620 Speaker 2: Like of why it scares us? Yeah. She looks a 216 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:43,970 Speaker 2: little like her eyes make it look like someone's forced 217 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:46,170 Speaker 2: her to do this and she's trapped. 218 00:09:46,330 --> 00:09:48,550 Speaker 1: Because she didn't include the eyes in the design. 219 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:51,730 Speaker 2: Right. And there's no eyebrows. There's a little bit of like, 220 00:09:51,870 --> 00:09:52,630 Speaker 2: I lost a dare. 221 00:09:52,650 --> 00:09:55,350 Speaker 1: It's a little bit. I just finished this in the bathroom. 222 00:09:55,390 --> 00:09:57,630 Speaker 1: Can we get this over with so I can go. 223 00:09:57,570 --> 00:09:59,949 Speaker 2: Back to work? My pores. My blessed pores. Okay. 224 00:10:00,450 --> 00:10:03,100 Speaker 1: But what I love is the idea that, what was 225 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:03,660 Speaker 1: the clown's name? 226 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,939 Speaker 2: Buttons? Bubblegum. 227 00:10:05,059 --> 00:10:11,099 Speaker 1: Bubblegum. So good. Bubblegum hauling ass up the street after Kevin. 228 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: Fuck yeah. 229 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:13,260 Speaker 1: Is hilarious. Love it. 230 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,780 Speaker 2: Love it. Okay. 231 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,690 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, then we'll just go right into this one. 232 00:10:19,730 --> 00:10:23,729 Speaker 1: This one is connected to yours. Grandma, the hometown hero. 233 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: It says, Hello, Karen and Georgia. This is a story 234 00:10:27,390 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: about my beautiful grandma, Gail, and her untold heroic actions 235 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: in the local town. I feel very lucky to have 236 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,140 Speaker 1: grown up with my grandparents, as spending time with them 237 00:10:36,179 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite things in the world. But 238 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: only as I've gotten older have I really taken an 239 00:10:40,580 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: interest in their lives. That's how it is. When you're young, 240 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: you don't realize other people have lives. Apart from their 241 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: adventures traveling the world in a tiny plane and running 242 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: the most amazing local pet shop. 243 00:10:53,510 --> 00:10:55,170 Speaker 2: That sounds like such a cool grandparents. 244 00:10:55,210 --> 00:10:59,250 Speaker 1: That sounds like people were smuggling chimpanzees to me. The 245 00:10:59,270 --> 00:11:01,089 Speaker 1: story I want to tell took me 19 years, a 246 00:11:01,130 --> 00:11:04,270 Speaker 1: bottle of Baileys, and the Christmas spirit to shake out 247 00:11:04,309 --> 00:11:09,179 Speaker 1: of my grandma. Bottle of Baileys. Before I continue, I 248 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:11,359 Speaker 1: must put forth a do not try this at home 249 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: warning for all listeners and the reason why will be 250 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,460 Speaker 1: obvious soon enough. One evening sometime in 1970, in the 251 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:22,900 Speaker 1: most English-looking town of England ever, my grandma was making 252 00:11:22,940 --> 00:11:27,300 Speaker 1: her religiously routine walk to the local store. Footfall was 253 00:11:27,340 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: of the typical quantity, and everything seemed normal until suddenly 254 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: my grandma heard a huge crashing sound. Looking behind her, 255 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,420 Speaker 1: she discovered a white van had rammed into a shop window, 256 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: and this shop turned out to be the electrical store. 257 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,740 Speaker 1: My grandma and a bunch of other people looked on 258 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,010 Speaker 1: in shock, as a single man began loading up what 259 00:11:47,050 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: were very expensive color TVs. 260 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,380 Speaker 2: Whoa. It's not subtle. 261 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:55,260 Speaker 1: No. It's like, oh, I'm crashing there and then fill 262 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: the crashed van with TVs to drive away. For some 263 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,980 Speaker 1: illogical reason, my grandma made the unfiltered decision to get involved. 264 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:05,900 Speaker 2: No. Keep walking. 265 00:12:06,110 --> 00:12:10,610 Speaker 1: Her thought process for what she did next goes as follows, 266 00:12:10,990 --> 00:12:13,660 Speaker 1: and I quote, This is my town. I can't just 267 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: watch it happen. Can I? 268 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: Oh, sorry. 269 00:12:16,980 --> 00:12:20,820 Speaker 1: This is my town. Anyway, the British version of that. 270 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:24,570 Speaker 1: Can I? Then, without much more thought, my grandma ran 271 00:12:24,650 --> 00:12:26,270 Speaker 1: over to this man and tackled him. 272 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:26,610 Speaker 2: To the ground. 273 00:12:27,470 --> 00:12:28,590 Speaker 1: Don't do that. 274 00:12:28,670 --> 00:12:29,030 Speaker 2: Yes. 275 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:31,630 Speaker 1: Do it. The older you are, the more you should 276 00:12:31,650 --> 00:12:35,589 Speaker 1: be tackling people. Bearing in mind this woman barely stands 277 00:12:35,650 --> 00:12:38,710 Speaker 1: five foot one feet tall, she jumped on the man 278 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:42,059 Speaker 1: and using what must have been some mutant powers, fought 279 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,740 Speaker 1: to keep him under civilian arrest. 280 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: Citizen arrest. 281 00:12:46,020 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Truly never do this. 282 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:48,260 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 283 00:12:48,420 --> 00:12:51,140 Speaker 1: All the while, everyone else looking on at the scene 284 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: didn't think to help her and just continued to watch. 285 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: That's why you don't do it. Yeah. Unless you have 286 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,980 Speaker 1: three friends with you. 287 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,420 Speaker 2: Totally. 288 00:12:57,540 --> 00:12:58,250 Speaker 1: Then go for it. 289 00:12:58,300 --> 00:12:59,710 Speaker 2: Come on, guys. And it's just you. 290 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,150 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Eventually, the police were called. 291 00:13:03,610 --> 00:13:04,270 Speaker 2: Eventually. 292 00:13:04,510 --> 00:13:07,929 Speaker 1: It says eventually the police, in parentheses it says cops, 293 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: were called. Yeah, we know what the fucking police are. 294 00:13:11,340 --> 00:13:11,820 Speaker 1: The Bobby. 295 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: Bobby, maybe. 296 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: Was it in a lift or a flat? The police 297 00:13:17,179 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: were called and my grandma was able to keep the 298 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: man pinned down until they arrived. At which point she 299 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,100 Speaker 1: simply left the scene and carried on with her day. 300 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: Oh my God, Grandma. 301 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't until she got home and the adrenaline had 302 00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:34,210 Speaker 1: relaxed that she noticed a huge black bruises scattered all 303 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:37,830 Speaker 1: over her body from the action. As extremely mad as 304 00:13:37,870 --> 00:13:39,890 Speaker 1: my granddad was with her that day, it's fair to 305 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: say that my grandma is the toughest bad bitch in 306 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,730 Speaker 1: all the land with an uncanny amount of bravery. Having 307 00:13:45,770 --> 00:13:48,309 Speaker 1: lost my mother to illness from a young age, my 308 00:13:48,350 --> 00:13:51,030 Speaker 1: grandma has been my biggest role model and a hero 309 00:13:51,090 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: to me every day. Therefore, I shared this story to 310 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: give her some well-deserved social justice. Wow. Stay sexy and 311 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:00,900 Speaker 1: interrogate your grandparents about their past. 312 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,100 Speaker 2: Anna. Yep. 313 00:14:02,660 --> 00:14:04,450 Speaker 1: How great is that? Wow. 314 00:14:05,660 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: I love it. Grandma. That guy beat her up. 315 00:14:09,250 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: And she's like, I don't care. 316 00:14:10,070 --> 00:14:11,229 Speaker 2: And she still held him down. 317 00:14:11,270 --> 00:14:13,090 Speaker 1: And she's like, you won't. This is my town. 318 00:14:14,190 --> 00:14:16,050 Speaker 2: These color TVs. She should have won a color TV. 319 00:14:16,390 --> 00:14:18,030 Speaker 2: The store should have given her a color TV as 320 00:14:18,070 --> 00:14:18,510 Speaker 2: a thank you. 321 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:22,170 Speaker 1: Can we get that store's phone number and get this 322 00:14:22,390 --> 00:14:24,210 Speaker 1: all happened 40 years ago? 323 00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:24,670 Speaker 2: Right. 324 00:14:25,150 --> 00:14:25,310 Speaker 1: Okay. 325 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:29,250 Speaker 2: Hello, pleasantries and so on. I just finished the minisode 326 00:14:29,270 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: where a girl from Perth talked about her job at 327 00:14:31,980 --> 00:14:36,140 Speaker 2: Fremantle Prison and thought, hey, I have a story. Back 328 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: in 1960, my nan and pop were boyfriend and girlfriend, 329 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: still teenagers and living in Redcliffe, a suburb of Perth, 330 00:14:42,980 --> 00:14:46,700 Speaker 2: Western Australia. One night, my pop was in the back sleepout. 331 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. Back porch? Yeah, probably right. 332 00:14:49,940 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: And Nana was returning to the main part of the 333 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: house when she saw a man crouching on their back 334 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,460 Speaker 2: veranda holding his shoes. She crept back to tell my pop, 335 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:01,260 Speaker 2: who pulled her inside and went to look. There he 336 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:04,420 Speaker 2: saw a man on their veranda, so he chased after him. 337 00:15:04,980 --> 00:15:07,100 Speaker 2: Nana's brother joined in the chase. See, you got to 338 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: have at least two. 339 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:09,380 Speaker 1: Yes, you got to have backup. 340 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: With pop eventually lunging at the man and catching him. 341 00:15:13,330 --> 00:15:15,870 Speaker 2: He said, quote, once I caught him, I thought, what 342 00:15:15,890 --> 00:15:18,150 Speaker 2: am I going to do now? So I acted tough. 343 00:15:19,270 --> 00:15:20,970 Speaker 2: They got him back to the house and called the 344 00:15:20,990 --> 00:15:24,430 Speaker 2: cops who dismissed the man as a harmless peeping Tom. 345 00:15:25,070 --> 00:15:27,330 Speaker 2: He ended up doing three months prison time, but went 346 00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:30,410 Speaker 2: on to do much worse. Oh, no. That peeping Tom 347 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:36,460 Speaker 2: turned out to be the night caller, a.k.a. the Nedlands monster, a.k.a. 348 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: Eric Edgar Cook, which I don't think we've ever covered, 349 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,690 Speaker 2: but is a Serial killer, I mean, from that time. 350 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:45,190 Speaker 1: Yes, and I feel like I've definitely listened to an 351 00:15:45,270 --> 00:15:49,620 Speaker 1: Australian-produced podcast about the night caller. Am I wrong about that? 352 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:54,180 Speaker 2: Probably. No, I would never say you're wrong about that. 353 00:15:54,260 --> 00:15:56,660 Speaker 2: Why would I do that? Why? Pop passed away recently, 354 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: and the funeral's celebrant. Celebrant? Celebrant. Celebrant. 355 00:16:00,820 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: It's like the priest that oversees the funeral. 356 00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:05,890 Speaker 2: Got it. Told this story as part of his eulogy, which, 357 00:16:06,270 --> 00:16:08,830 Speaker 2: as a non-religious family, I think we can all agree 358 00:16:08,890 --> 00:16:13,530 Speaker 2: was a solid use of time. SSTGM and Don't Dismiss 359 00:16:13,550 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: Peeping Toms is harmless as they statistically go on to 360 00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: commit violent crimes due to not being held accountable for 361 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:22,700 Speaker 2: their creepy actions and tend to escalate. Oh, yeah, we 362 00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:24,470 Speaker 2: know that. And this is from M. 363 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: P.S. 364 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: Here's a news clipping where Nan and Pop tell the story. 365 00:16:28,460 --> 00:16:30,580 Speaker 2: That's them in the picture top right. Yes. 366 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:31,940 Speaker 1: Look at them. 367 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: Look at how cute they are. 368 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,500 Speaker 1: Yes. 369 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,820 Speaker 2: And there's a documentary about this killer as well. 370 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: The night collar? 371 00:16:38,300 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. They caught him. 372 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: Also just so creepy. There's a man on your back 373 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: porch holding his own shoes. What is that? Or maybe 374 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: they were someone else's shoes. 375 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,730 Speaker 2: Holding a pair of shoes. 376 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,300 Speaker 1: Yeah. 377 00:16:49,330 --> 00:16:50,490 Speaker 2: Just like so you don't make noise. 378 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:51,390 Speaker 1: Sneaking up on that. 379 00:16:51,850 --> 00:16:52,590 Speaker 2: But then why? 380 00:16:52,870 --> 00:16:53,150 Speaker 1: Yeah. 381 00:16:54,030 --> 00:16:56,540 Speaker 2: It's so creepy. And then I'd be like, well, what 382 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,090 Speaker 2: if he comes back to this house knowing what happened? 383 00:16:59,210 --> 00:17:00,010 Speaker 2: Of course. Right? 384 00:17:00,410 --> 00:17:02,450 Speaker 1: And you'd be like, well, then get into that sleep out. 385 00:17:02,770 --> 00:17:05,010 Speaker 1: That's the only place that's safe. We have no idea 386 00:17:05,030 --> 00:17:05,389 Speaker 1: what that is. 387 00:17:05,450 --> 00:17:07,590 Speaker 2: No. Back barn? Who knows? 388 00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:15,460 Speaker 1: Could be anything. Okay, here's my last one. The subject 389 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: line of this is Grandma Pranks and Deathbed Confessions. And 390 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: it says, Dear Karen and Georgia, I am writing in 391 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,630 Speaker 1: about my prankster grandmother's deathbed confession. My grandma, Nancy, was 392 00:17:26,670 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: an advocate for disability rights, a wonderful mother and grandmother, 393 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: but most spectacularly, a legendary prankster. It all started when 394 00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: my dad decided to propose to my mom. My grandma 395 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: generously offered a family heirloom ring and mailed it to 396 00:17:42,540 --> 00:17:46,570 Speaker 1: my dad. Now, dear reader, my dad has many positive attributes, 397 00:17:46,770 --> 00:17:49,929 Speaker 1: but being detail-oriented is not one of them. On his 398 00:17:50,010 --> 00:17:52,129 Speaker 1: way to propose to my mom, my dad stopped by 399 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:54,740 Speaker 1: the post office to pick up the ring. Without opening 400 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the box to inspect the ring first, he got down 401 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,380 Speaker 1: on one knee. No. 402 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: Oh, no. 403 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,490 Speaker 1: Gave his heartfelt plea to my mother to marry him. 404 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:07,230 Speaker 1: Opened the box to reveal a plastic Cracker Jack box ring. 405 00:18:07,930 --> 00:18:11,389 Speaker 1: My mother in tears and my dad furious called my grandma, 406 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: who thought it was all hilarious. 407 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: No, don't fuck with someone's proposal. But at the same time, 408 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:18,340 Speaker 2: she probably thought he was going to open it. Open 409 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:18,780 Speaker 2: the fucking box. 410 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,179 Speaker 1: Look at the ring. There's one thing of like I'm 411 00:18:22,220 --> 00:18:25,530 Speaker 1: not detail-oriented, and it's like I don't really care that much. 412 00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:28,550 Speaker 1: I mean, not to say that, of course. Your father 413 00:18:28,570 --> 00:18:29,090 Speaker 1: loves you. 414 00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:30,550 Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't care about a ring, 100%. 415 00:18:30,550 --> 00:18:33,010 Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't care about your mother. Let's talk about 416 00:18:33,030 --> 00:18:36,050 Speaker 1: all of it. Somehow, my dad managed to redeem himself 417 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:39,050 Speaker 1: and married my mom. Over the years, my parents and 418 00:18:39,109 --> 00:18:42,389 Speaker 1: grandmother gifted each other the plastic ring back and forth, 419 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:46,139 Speaker 1: continuing the joke. The last time the ring was seen 420 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,379 Speaker 1: was when my parents gifted it to my grandmother again. 421 00:18:48,740 --> 00:18:52,010 Speaker 1: bronzed on a small statue of a woman reaching out 422 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:52,570 Speaker 1: her hand. 423 00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:53,270 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 424 00:18:54,210 --> 00:18:56,389 Speaker 1: So now for the last 20 years or so, everyone 425 00:18:56,430 --> 00:18:58,630 Speaker 1: had agreed that the ring and the statue had been 426 00:18:58,670 --> 00:19:02,169 Speaker 1: lost to time, and the prank had finally ended. My 427 00:19:02,210 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: grandma swore she had no clue what happened to it. 428 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: A few months ago, my grandmother was losing her battle 429 00:19:07,340 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: to cancer, and we all gathered by her bedside to 430 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: say our goodbyes. My parents sat by her bed, and 431 00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:16,540 Speaker 1: she reached out to my mother and said, Get the 432 00:19:16,580 --> 00:19:20,139 Speaker 1: lady from the closet. My mother, confused, went to the 433 00:19:20,180 --> 00:19:23,689 Speaker 1: closet to reveal the statue with the ring that my 434 00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:26,109 Speaker 1: grandma had been holding onto for the better part of 435 00:19:26,130 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: two decades. In her last moments, my grandma regaled the 436 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,780 Speaker 1: whole family with her best prank and her final wish, 437 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,580 Speaker 1: that once she passed... Keep her ashes in the Golden 438 00:19:38,650 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Lady statue. What? The statue now sits lovingly in my parents' house, 439 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,989 Speaker 1: a reminder of the legendary matriarch of our family. And 440 00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:49,570 Speaker 1: here's the Golden Lady statue right here. 441 00:19:49,910 --> 00:19:51,300 Speaker 2: Oh. Oh, wow. 442 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,580 Speaker 1: Thank you both for being my constant companions all these years. 443 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,139 Speaker 1: I started listening as a junior in high school, and 444 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,740 Speaker 1: this year I finished my master's and started my dream 445 00:20:00,780 --> 00:20:05,300 Speaker 1: job working in a children's hospital. Wow. SSDGM and always 446 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,290 Speaker 1: open the box first, Eliana. Wow. 447 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,220 Speaker 2: Wow. Oh, that's yeah. She got the last laugh. I mean, 448 00:20:11,290 --> 00:20:11,740 Speaker 2: it's pretty. 449 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,950 Speaker 1: It's so good. But also, it's such a funny thing 450 00:20:15,070 --> 00:20:19,230 Speaker 1: to be like, open the closet. One last joke. 451 00:20:19,330 --> 00:20:21,270 Speaker 2: I thought she was going to have like the person 452 00:20:21,290 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: put it in her like in her coffin with her 453 00:20:23,970 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: for her viewing or something like that. That's good. 454 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: So many ways to do a prank. 455 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,449 Speaker 2: OK, my last one is grandma superstitions. Hello, ladies. My 456 00:20:33,470 --> 00:20:36,610 Speaker 2: 84-year-old grandma, Carol, is very superstitious, to the point where 457 00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:38,610 Speaker 2: my mom began to joke that she got all these 458 00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:41,990 Speaker 2: sayings from her witchcraft book. One year around Halloween, my 459 00:20:42,050 --> 00:20:44,350 Speaker 2: parents were out shopping and found a candy dish that 460 00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:47,369 Speaker 2: looked like a hollowed-out spell book. As a joke, they 461 00:20:47,390 --> 00:20:49,730 Speaker 2: bought it for her, and for Christmas, my mom called 462 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:52,300 Speaker 2: all of my grandma's sisters and typed up as many 463 00:20:52,430 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: of her superstitions and old wives' tales as they could 464 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: remember and gave her the book. The kicker is that 465 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,940 Speaker 2: my grandma absolutely loves it and still adds new sayings 466 00:21:00,980 --> 00:21:04,100 Speaker 2: to it to this day. The book is full of 467 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: newspaper clippings and handwritten post-its. While I can't remember all 468 00:21:07,619 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: of the sayings, I have listed below all that I 469 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,170 Speaker 2: can remember off the top of my head. Thank you. Okay, ready? 470 00:21:13,630 --> 00:21:13,830 Speaker 1: Yes. 471 00:21:14,910 --> 00:21:17,649 Speaker 2: You can't get rain on a baby's face before it 472 00:21:17,710 --> 00:21:21,290 Speaker 2: is a year old or they will have freckles. Like, 473 00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:22,469 Speaker 2: give me freckles. 474 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:24,350 Speaker 1: Just absolutely not related in any way. 475 00:21:24,410 --> 00:21:26,929 Speaker 2: Right, and actually not that big of a deal. If 476 00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: you drop a comb, it is bad luck unless you 477 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,980 Speaker 2: step on it and make a wish before picking it up. 478 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,330 Speaker 1: She had OCD. Okay. Very simple. Yeah. 479 00:21:35,869 --> 00:21:38,129 Speaker 2: You are also not supposed to rake leaves or anything 480 00:21:38,170 --> 00:21:40,409 Speaker 2: in your yard before May 1st or you are raking 481 00:21:40,609 --> 00:21:43,030 Speaker 2: someone out of your life. This was put to the 482 00:21:43,050 --> 00:21:45,820 Speaker 2: test one year when my aunt's dog pooped right beside 483 00:21:45,859 --> 00:21:48,100 Speaker 2: their front steps and she knew someone was going to 484 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,899 Speaker 2: end up stepping in it. So she raked it up 485 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,660 Speaker 2: and within an hour received a call that her husband's 486 00:21:52,780 --> 00:21:53,700 Speaker 2: uncle had died. 487 00:21:54,660 --> 00:21:55,580 Speaker 1: Not related. 488 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,220 Speaker 2: Nope. You cannot cut a baby's hair before they are 489 00:21:59,260 --> 00:22:02,580 Speaker 2: a year old. Grandma can't remember why this is, but 490 00:22:02,619 --> 00:22:05,770 Speaker 2: she still enforces it on her grandkids and great-grandkids. 491 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:07,330 Speaker 1: Just keep scissors away from babies. 492 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:11,070 Speaker 2: They can't cut their own hair. To prevent the seven 493 00:22:11,109 --> 00:22:13,170 Speaker 2: years of bad luck of breaking a mirror, do not 494 00:22:13,210 --> 00:22:17,510 Speaker 2: touch the shards for seven hours. Never rock a rocking 495 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: chair when nobody is in it or someone you love 496 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: is going to die. 497 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: I've heard that one before. 498 00:22:21,619 --> 00:22:25,010 Speaker 2: Those last couple ones sound familiar. Yeah. And finally, my favorite. 499 00:22:25,530 --> 00:22:27,510 Speaker 2: This isn't as much of a superstition as it is 500 00:22:27,550 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: an old wives' tale. To soothe a baby who is teething, 501 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,140 Speaker 2: get a pair of mole's feet, tie them to a string, 502 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: and place it around the baby's neck. Yes, you heard 503 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: that right. Take the feet off of a little mouse 504 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:44,850 Speaker 2: and put them around your baby's neck. My grandma swears 505 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,510 Speaker 2: this works. And that she did it with my dad 506 00:22:48,570 --> 00:22:50,970 Speaker 2: and uncle. She wanted to do it with my brother 507 00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:53,870 Speaker 2: and I, but my mother wouldn't allow it. Why not? 508 00:22:53,930 --> 00:22:55,129 Speaker 2: What are spoils for? 509 00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:56,669 Speaker 1: A vermin from the yard? 510 00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:59,810 Speaker 2: And also to sue the baby who's teething. It's not 511 00:22:59,869 --> 00:23:01,490 Speaker 2: that big of a deal that you would do. Maybe 512 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:04,369 Speaker 2: to save the baby's life. Sure, I'll try it. Yes. 513 00:23:04,510 --> 00:23:07,210 Speaker 2: But that's not the first. Give him a pickle. Everyone knows. 514 00:23:07,230 --> 00:23:10,570 Speaker 1: Right. I mean, they're just going to keep on coming in. 515 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: There's so much to cry about with teething. 516 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,859 Speaker 2: And then you're crying because your parents did that to you? Yeah. 517 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: What's that weird distant rat smell? 518 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: I love my grandma and her superstitions slash old wives tales. 519 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,859 Speaker 2: Anytime I hear a new one, I am sure to 520 00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: write it down and add it to her book. Thank 521 00:23:24,940 --> 00:23:26,949 Speaker 2: you for all you do and for keeping me entertained 522 00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:29,609 Speaker 2: for hours since I discovered you right before the pandemic. 523 00:23:29,850 --> 00:23:33,070 Speaker 2: I finally faced my fears and flew solo, I might add, 524 00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:35,590 Speaker 2: from Columbus to Chicago to see you live. And I 525 00:23:35,690 --> 00:23:36,730 Speaker 2: do not regret it. 526 00:23:36,730 --> 00:23:37,390 Speaker 1: Yay. 527 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:41,189 Speaker 2: Thank God. ssdgm andrew he him. 528 00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:44,629 Speaker 1: Andrew thanks for coming yeah thanks for flying solo i 529 00:23:44,830 --> 00:23:47,350 Speaker 1: love i bet you that's such a satisfying thing to 530 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:49,409 Speaker 1: have people as a gift be like here's all the 531 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: shit you've said that you all remember and think is 532 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,060 Speaker 1: kind of either funny or wise i. 533 00:23:54,020 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: Love that and like here are the recipes that someone 534 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,100 Speaker 2: finally yes put together yeah that's so good all that 535 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,219 Speaker 2: um Well, thanks for listening to this grandparent. Go ask 536 00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: your grandparents what their fucking major malfunction is. 537 00:24:09,580 --> 00:24:12,020 Speaker 1: What have you been up to these last 80 years? 538 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: What did you even do? 539 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:15,429 Speaker 1: What do you have to pass on and let us 540 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:16,109 Speaker 1: pass it on? 541 00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:18,210 Speaker 2: And don't forget to include their name because we love 542 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:20,770 Speaker 2: hearing the grandparents' names and imagining them as a baby 543 00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:23,510 Speaker 2: named Faye or whatever. Yes. 544 00:24:24,210 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: A nice Maude out there. A nice Ernest. 545 00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: Sure. Patty. 546 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,060 Speaker 1: No more Ernests. 547 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: Oh, Ernest is good. Ernie. 548 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:36,450 Speaker 1: I wish Grandparents Day was every day. 549 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:37,540 Speaker 2: Me too. 550 00:24:37,660 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: Well, stay sexy. 551 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,740 Speaker 2: And don't get murdered. 552 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: Goodbye. 553 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:42,550 Speaker 2: Elvis, do you want a cookie? 554 00:24:50,609 --> 00:24:52,430 Speaker 1: This has been an Exactly Right production. 555 00:24:52,609 --> 00:24:54,350 Speaker 2: Our managing producer is Molly Smith. 556 00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:56,490 Speaker 1: Our consulting producer is Kate Schellenbach. 557 00:24:56,609 --> 00:24:58,350 Speaker 2: Our creative lead is Allison Agosti. 558 00:24:58,650 --> 00:25:01,389 Speaker 1: Our associate producer is Tessa Hughes and our editor is 559 00:25:01,510 --> 00:25:02,690 Speaker 1: Aristotle Acevedo. 560 00:25:02,910 --> 00:25:05,010 Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Liana Squalacci. 561 00:25:05,290 --> 00:25:08,810 Speaker 1: Email your hometowns to myfavoritemurder at gmail.com and follow the 562 00:25:08,869 --> 00:25:11,010 Speaker 1: show on Instagram at myfavoritemurder. 563 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:14,389 Speaker 2: Listen to My Favorite Murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 564 00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:15,969 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts. 565 00:25:16,290 --> 00:25:19,669 Speaker 1: Or watch new episodes every week on Netflix. 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