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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Cowboys Break. Sorry to scare you
Speaker 1: Nick there. I was like, Eric, are you ready? We
Speaker 1: are ready? He's not hosting. I am forget. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Derek is having fun on
Speaker 1: his phone over there. Dave looks ready to go with
Speaker 1: his counting report for the La Rams offense, which we'll
Speaker 1: get into later in the show. I wanted to start
Speaker 1: right off the bat with the guys that were not
Speaker 1: at practice, did not do anything, and the question marks
Speaker 1: are still around Xavier Sophilo, Cole Beastley, Blake Jarwin and
Speaker 1: even Austin. What do you guys know about these four guys?
Speaker 1: Great so far, it's a great question question marks about
Speaker 1: David Irvy No, No, the list is not then, yeah,
Speaker 1: no question marks not today, yesterday. He was kind of okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead. The list has grown a little bit. Um
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, Noah Brown, Blake Jarwin, Malik Collins all missed practice,
Speaker 1: David irn Well Brown, Davi Sua Philo was out there.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much he's going to participate though none
Speaker 1: of these he dinged his ankle. All of these, well,
Speaker 1: the only one I don't know the answer to is
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. Every I mean, uh, Cole dinged his ankle,
Speaker 1: Um Suaphilo obviously with the ankle, Malik with the ankle.
Speaker 1: Jarwin all all ankles, a lot of ankles. So Jarwin,
Speaker 1: did jar get hurt in the game, Yes, very near
Speaker 1: the end. You know what you can blame um Courtney. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she want to tell everybody who Courtney is. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: in the one of our social social media. Um. She's
Speaker 1: down the field and I think like she was trying
Speaker 1: to move out of the way and Jarwin caught a
Speaker 1: pass and he had to like, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: his foot kind of role. He was trying to get
Speaker 1: out of the way. So he was trying to a
Speaker 1: boy hitting her and that's how I rolled his ankle.
Speaker 1: I think. So it happened on the sideline and not
Speaker 1: blaming her it's a pretty strong accusation. That is a
Speaker 1: pretty strong accusation. Now what is that anyways, happened on
Speaker 1: the sideline, but he played most of the game. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, but then again, I'm tired of doing that
Speaker 1: because I've done that before he finished the game. He'll
Speaker 1: be fine seven days. That didn't always happen. Out of
Speaker 1: these who who's still the most concerning one as far
Speaker 1: as the injury itself, So, Philo, until you get him back,
Speaker 1: I would think, is still a concern that he can't
Speaker 1: he come back? You know, I think, yeah, well from
Speaker 1: I mean Malie Collins kind of need him, you do.
Speaker 1: Against one of the best running backs in football, So
Speaker 1: that's something to watch. Again. You know, it's it's Wednesday
Speaker 1: in Cowboys world, so it's early, but that's definitely something
Speaker 1: to watch. He was not out there. I'll say this
Speaker 1: about Maleak. It was a game earlier this year that
Speaker 1: Zack Martin left and had to come back and play,
Speaker 1: but Collins did it as well. It was at Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Maybe it seemed like it was one of those road
Speaker 1: games where the guy had to leave and he came
Speaker 1: back and finished the game. Collins has done that too.
Speaker 1: He has shown the ability to play with injury, so
Speaker 1: I feel okay that he will come back. Beasley's kind
Speaker 1: of concerning too, because he didn't look one hundred percent
Speaker 1: running around those It's a reoccurring one, and you've got
Speaker 1: Herns definitely out, So they're already they're already down receivers,
Speaker 1: which they signed. Noah Brown is now part of the
Speaker 1: active roster. Alan Hearns is uninjured reserve. And they say
Speaker 1: that again, who's a part of the actor? I said,
Speaker 1: Noah Brown did, Yeah, I'm sorry, I met Lanceloor is
Speaker 1: on the active roster. Um they signed a kid I
Speaker 1: already forgot his name. They signed a receiver to the
Speaker 1: practice squad in addition, um something Bradley Michael Michael Bradley.
Speaker 1: He's a soccer player. I mean, the good thing there
Speaker 1: is that you still got Cooper, he still got gallop.
Speaker 1: Like those are your two I think most important wide receipts.
Speaker 1: Not even close. Brandon Riley. I'm sorry he's on the
Speaker 1: practice squad now. But but the part you have to
Speaker 1: remember is that those guys aren't necessary the guys you
Speaker 1: use in the slot. So you really are counting on
Speaker 1: Beasley Tavon to be the guys that can can do
Speaker 1: that for you, and and and even Hearns. Herns was
Speaker 1: a guy that you could you could play in the
Speaker 1: spot as well. So Lance, Lance, I know, next thing
Speaker 1: I want to hear that. I mean, we'll see Lance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's low key, low key, a pretty big deal. I
Speaker 1: mean Beasley, you know, he finished the game. But the
Speaker 1: next point, especially with what you got to do as
Speaker 1: a slot receiver, bomb ankle is not a great injury
Speaker 1: for that guy. So he makes his money off the
Speaker 1: fact that he's quick and he can get in and
Speaker 1: out of breaks quickly. It it's hard to do that
Speaker 1: when your ankle's not right. As Lance scored a touchdown
Speaker 1: this year, not in the regular season, preseason where um
Speaker 1: la San Francisco, San Francisco, where already play his best ball.
Speaker 1: Really nice catch too, brand Camp. Yeah, it's yes, Hallie.
Speaker 1: If that's the crazy thing though, like we talked about yesterday,
Speaker 1: some of those guys that are good at practice and
Speaker 1: it just kind of doesn't reflect into the season the
Speaker 1: regular season. He's one of those guys who has been
Speaker 1: really good with Dad during the off season and just
Speaker 1: doesn't really translate. If Beasley can't go Lancenor's got the
Speaker 1: next best skill set for what you want him to do.
Speaker 1: Probably what guy? Yeah, all right, well, Derek's face kind
Speaker 1: of says a lot right there, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say it. Can't should have done it? Close up on here,
Speaker 1: let's go. All right, it's week nineteen. Well, a lot
Speaker 1: of talks going back to call here we go, A
Speaker 1: lot of talks about Dak Prescott and this has been
Speaker 1: an ongoing theme um for him this year, questions surrounding him,
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to bring up this whole comment
Speaker 1: that Troy Aikman had on the ticket saying in regards
Speaker 1: to Dak, he said he texted Dak and saying first
Speaker 1: postseason when of many, and then he went on to
Speaker 1: saying that he really believes that Dak is going to
Speaker 1: be the Cowboys quarterback for a long time and he's
Speaker 1: going to find himself winning a lot of football games
Speaker 1: in January going forward. So I wanted to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts and reactions to what this type of common means
Speaker 1: coming from someone like in January. Yes, yes, okay, um wow,
Speaker 1: My eyebrows perked up when I read that. Yes, absolutely good.
Speaker 1: When I read that, though, I mean I kind of
Speaker 1: sometimes I take those things in January this year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of, I kind of kind I kind of
Speaker 1: take those things as that's just what giants came with
Speaker 1: December thirtieth dance. Sorry, right first your bubble. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I think I kind of take those things as that's
Speaker 1: what you say as the Cowboys former quarterback. I would
Speaker 1: expect Roger would say the same thing again, especially as
Speaker 1: long as once you see the writing on the wall
Speaker 1: that this is a quarterback. Whether he's great or good
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. If he's in that range, then you kind
Speaker 1: of give him that pad on the back dead. Okay,
Speaker 1: the mantle is now yours, young man, go do with
Speaker 1: it what you I mean, we heard the same thing
Speaker 1: once Romo kind of got into that that area where
Speaker 1: then they started being like, Okay, Romo, this is your thing.
Speaker 1: We think you're gonna be good. Go be great. Right.
Speaker 1: So I just that doesn't surprise me. I surprise me
Speaker 1: at all. I disagree because I think two different things. One,
Speaker 1: all the respect in the world for Rogers Stabach, but
Speaker 1: I mean, like he's he's I think of him as
Speaker 1: like the fatherly figure of these current Cowboys players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's not in the media, he's retired, he's he's
Speaker 1: so far making money. He's printing money, printing money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, he's but he's so far removed
Speaker 1: that he's like, I don't really have a stake in
Speaker 1: this other than I want the Cowboys to do well
Speaker 1: and I support I mean, he was very supportive of Romo.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's going to be supportive of Dak. And then
Speaker 1: there's Michael Irvin, another guy who's like, he's just he's
Speaker 1: the team cheerleader. He's on like he's just he's Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He's the team cheerleader. And that's good too, and I
Speaker 1: like it. Troy Aikman is somewhere in the middle, Like
Speaker 1: he obviously has he's has a stake in the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He's invested in their success. He's also a prominent member
Speaker 1: of the media. And if you've ever listened to him,
Speaker 1: I think he takes his impartiality and his objectivity and
Speaker 1: be and doing his homework seriously. So I think that
Speaker 1: means more coming from him, because I don't think he
Speaker 1: would more than it would from some of those other guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do think that he still is at it
Speaker 1: at the core. And again this was on local radio.
Speaker 1: I think here in Dallas, right, I think he still
Speaker 1: does though you know he he has I think he
Speaker 1: still has a vested interest in this team doing well.
Speaker 1: And I think he sees a riding on the wall
Speaker 1: that this is a good quarterback. Who knows if he'll
Speaker 1: be great, but he's a good quarterback and so but
Speaker 1: that's kind of my point is saying that he's gonna
Speaker 1: win many games in Jailanuary means he's going to be great.
Speaker 1: You don't win a lot of playoff games if you're
Speaker 1: not great. And so for Troy to say it, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you call what do you call the guy that
Speaker 1: came right before Troy great? He won a whole bunch
Speaker 1: in January? What Danny White? Oh I thought I said before.
Speaker 1: I'm saying in this franchise, winning in January doesn't always
Speaker 1: mean great. It means you're pretty good. If you're not
Speaker 1: winning in late January early February, that's when you become
Speaker 1: great in this franchise as a quarterback, you're splitting hairs
Speaker 1: many wins in January. No, I don't want, definitely don't
Speaker 1: want to go down to Danny White debate Danny White
Speaker 1: wasn't great. Danny White was exactly that's exactly right. But
Speaker 1: it's a different era now. I mean Danny White was
Speaker 1: hand you know, handed over a pretty good football team
Speaker 1: with no salary cap and just go right that that
Speaker 1: he didn't elevate the franchise. So I don't ever say
Speaker 1: that he was better than Romo. Ever, Um, I agree
Speaker 1: with Dave, you know, and I was going to kind
Speaker 1: of mention that part about them aman where he falls
Speaker 1: in the stallback and Michael Irvan and you know, Dion
Speaker 1: and him, and where everybody just goes in different spots.
Speaker 1: Irvan's on a different stratosphere. But but I agree. I mean,
Speaker 1: when aateman says that, you know, aateman knows he's going
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback for the future here. And when
Speaker 1: you're doing that, you're gonna win some games. What's many?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, but I mean you can win.
Speaker 1: He can win two more, I guess in January this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say this if you know what it
Speaker 1: would have raised my brows for you to say it's
Speaker 1: something like I think this guy's guy would have takes
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. Now, that raises by brows.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, but when you say he's gonna win
Speaker 1: mini games in January, I don't know what that really means.
Speaker 1: Like just remember still just hearing it from ache Man,
Speaker 1: it's like some type of okay reassurance in you or
Speaker 1: like it makes you feel a tiny bit better, does
Speaker 1: a tiny bit okay, But just remember where we are
Speaker 1: on not everyone is even convinced right now that he
Speaker 1: is the quarterback of the future. So who wouldn't be
Speaker 1: convinced at this point? Check your mentions? No, no, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about makes calls. You know. I'm saying who
Speaker 1: wouldn't be convinced because he's basically said as much. So
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter not We're not talking about like the
Speaker 1: reality situation. We're talking about in people's minds. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that there's a lot of people not
Speaker 1: convinced daksh should be the quarterback of this team. And
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, the guy that has won more Super Bowls
Speaker 1: than any other quarterback in franchise history, is saying that
Speaker 1: he believes not only will he be the quarterback for
Speaker 1: a long time, but he's going to be successful in
Speaker 1: winning games in the playoffs. I think that's something to
Speaker 1: be said for that. Also, which we're this is semantics
Speaker 1: and I don't care, but having that a headline on
Speaker 1: our on our website, we're talking if you're going to
Speaker 1: win many games in January. You can only play three
Speaker 1: in January at a given time. So if you're winning many,
Speaker 1: that's over years though. Okay, even still in that first round.
Speaker 1: If you're winning, if you've got more than like five
Speaker 1: career wins in January, it means you've probably played in
Speaker 1: a couple of NFC title games and a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers on Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: only has nine playoff wins. Honestly on a I think
Speaker 1: we're just kind of like, I'm not saying that it's
Speaker 1: not relevant that he says it. My whole point is
Speaker 1: just it didn't shock me, Like to me, you're usually
Speaker 1: the optimist one. No, I'm saying over here, No, I
Speaker 1: think y'all, miss, I'm not saying that that. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't shock me that he says that, And
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily get any solace out of him saying it,
Speaker 1: because again, I would expect that what I've seen so far,
Speaker 1: I would expect that Dak Prescott's going to be the
Speaker 1: number one the quarterback here for a long time and
Speaker 1: number two that he's going to have some success in January.
Speaker 1: How much success, that's the golden question. Because if he's
Speaker 1: winning Wildcard weekend, you know, five times, four times in
Speaker 1: his career, but never gets beyond that, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a failure in this franchise. So you know, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was a firm statement when he didn't need
Speaker 1: to say something that firm that's all. It's a failure. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I think in this franchise he will be that will
Speaker 1: be looked at like Tony Romo. People look at him
Speaker 1: as a really good quarterback, but you talk to fans,
Speaker 1: and fans still think that when it comes down to
Speaker 1: would he'd never won enough for them to put him
Speaker 1: in the category of being a great quarterback here. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess the word failure is a little strong. I
Speaker 1: mean because to me, a guy that just kind of
Speaker 1: wins in the NFC, I mean wins the wildcard maybe
Speaker 1: divisional round division because we still haven't we still have
Speaker 1: any right Well, I mean, I'm basically what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, is that, like, you know, it's Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback, and I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what his whole career. That's a tough thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's a tough thing to do. I get the
Speaker 1: Chargers in the Cowboys on way different levels on expectations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they shouldn't be, but you know, but the thing
Speaker 1: is that it takes about what's happened so far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but fans there are expectations are based off of
Speaker 1: what they remember righting up, and that's not the reality
Speaker 1: that that it is right now. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: whether the Cowboys have three playoff wins in nine years,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where that would rank in in
Speaker 1: all the teams. I would say maybe in the middle.
Speaker 1: Probably in the middle, I would guess, you know, because
Speaker 1: you got some teams that are going to get three
Speaker 1: in January, you know what I mean, New England gets
Speaker 1: three a year. Sometimes it's probably mid too, Like I
Speaker 1: would put it probably in the low seven, low twenties.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like about the eighteen nineteen, somewhere
Speaker 1: between seventeen and twenty two. I bet the last ten years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many playoffs win? I mean just off the top,
Speaker 1: I mean like New England comes to mind, Seattle comes.
Speaker 1: Anybody makes the playoffs is getting three? I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean makes the Super Bowls. That's three, just in at you.
Speaker 1: They made earlier too, Yeah, at least two. All right,
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Speaker 1: all right, La Rams. The Cowboys are facing them this weekend.
Speaker 1: That team right there finished the season thirteen and three,
Speaker 1: first in the NFC West. They are coming off a
Speaker 1: bye week, and now the Cowboys have to face them
Speaker 1: true their home, which is Cowboys to say my home
Speaker 1: as well, yeah, I'll allow it. What it is, my home.
Speaker 1: Cowboys show up, all right, So now we're gonna ask,
Speaker 1: we'll see, let's figure out what they got on the
Speaker 1: offense and how the Cowboys can possibly attack them. I
Speaker 1: just think it's a this is a fun This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun little experiment between riding the wave
Speaker 1: and just being good because I think, you know, the
Speaker 1: Rams are objectively one of the two or three best
Speaker 1: teams in the league. They finished thirteen and three, but
Speaker 1: they went two and two over the final month of
Speaker 1: the season, so and they got a week off, you know,
Speaker 1: like it reminds me of twenty sixteen with the Cowboys, Like,
Speaker 1: oh we don't have any momentum all that stuff. Wait
Speaker 1: huh was that Wait? No, okay, that was way It
Speaker 1: sounded like, waituh, you will be well surprise. But uh
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, how's that? You know, Cowboys
Speaker 1: have been playing playoff games basically for six weeks. You've
Speaker 1: heard all those cliches, So who's gonna be hotter? And
Speaker 1: I'm curious because this is a really really really good offense. Um,
Speaker 1: But they're not. They're not doing anything recently that scares
Speaker 1: the Bejesus out of me. Now They're not well, they're
Speaker 1: they're not. They went two and two, They had two
Speaker 1: really ugly losses to Philly in Chicago. They bounced back
Speaker 1: with two big wins against Arizona and San Francisco, who
Speaker 1: are among the worst teams in the lat Those teams
Speaker 1: yet Todd Gurley hasn't played since December sixteenth, was an issue? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean Sean McVay expects him to play, But like,
Speaker 1: that's it's certainly something you got to think about. They
Speaker 1: asked Jason Garrett about that in the press conference today.
Speaker 1: Is you know, hasn't played in a month? Does that matter?
Speaker 1: Garrett wrote it off, But I think it probably does,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit. Um so. I mean, gosh, the
Speaker 1: Rams have been the story of the season. Their second
Speaker 1: in the league in offense, their fifth in passing yards,
Speaker 1: their third in rushing yards, their second in scoring. You
Speaker 1: name it, they do it. Gurley is probably gonna win
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year if I had to guess,
Speaker 1: He's got what twenty one touchdowns total, seventeen rushing. Um
Speaker 1: A guy in Kansas City that might say, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: that's he might. He might win MVP. He might. But
Speaker 1: I agree, now you're right, Freeze might get the sympathy
Speaker 1: vote there. We will see he hasn't deserved it. Eat.
Speaker 1: It really annoys me that we won't know until February fifth,
Speaker 1: but it's a different conversation. Um So, Yeah, obviously this
Speaker 1: offense is awesome. Sean McVeigh gets all the credit in
Speaker 1: the world. Uh, everything flows through Todd Gurley. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: this team leads the league in play action percentage. They
Speaker 1: play fake on thirty five percent of their snaps. I
Speaker 1: think that's a big part of why Jared Goff has
Speaker 1: been so much better since Sean mcvayh took over. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, big on misdirection and buying him time, giving
Speaker 1: him a clean pocket, giving him, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to take anything away from him, he's a first
Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft, but giving him easy reads
Speaker 1: to make, which um, I think is big and very
Speaker 1: something that's easy to do when you have a threat
Speaker 1: like Todd Gurley in the back field with you. So
Speaker 1: that's the big thing for me is can the Cowboys
Speaker 1: stop the run, which they are very good at their
Speaker 1: fifth and run defense, but also can they be disciplined
Speaker 1: and avoid getting sucked up by these play fakes because
Speaker 1: the Rams are going to do all that time. I mean,
Speaker 1: they do all the stuff that I love to see
Speaker 1: that I want Tavon Austin to do. Like they fake
Speaker 1: the jet sweep, they give it to their receivers. They
Speaker 1: do some type of action on almost every snap. But
Speaker 1: then in addition to that, they'll just missdirect the whole play,
Speaker 1: like they'll send the line left in the quarterback right
Speaker 1: or vice versa. They do a lot of the bootleg
Speaker 1: and naked stuff that Dak Prescott's good at. I just
Speaker 1: there's some element of play faking on almost everything they do.
Speaker 1: And that's the big thing for me is being disciplined.
Speaker 1: I do think I think they've taken a step back
Speaker 1: since Cooper Cup got hurt. He missed the first eight
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. He is He's a white wide receiver,
Speaker 1: so I feel like people miss I seriously. I feel
Speaker 1: like people miscast him and they're like, oh, he's a
Speaker 1: white receiver, Like, oh, he's like they're Cole Beasley. No
Speaker 1: he's not. He's well, he can run, he can play inside,
Speaker 1: he can play outside. He's big. He he reminds me,
Speaker 1: and this is high praise, but he reminds me of
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Like that's that's who he is. And my
Speaker 1: like it was a big loss for them. His catch
Speaker 1: radius is similar his he can line up inside and
Speaker 1: outside like that. Like he's not Cole Beasley, He's nothing
Speaker 1: like that. And I think it's been bad for them
Speaker 1: since he's been gone because he's so versatile and he
Speaker 1: opens things up. Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks. I feel
Speaker 1: stupid saying this. They both have eighty catches and eleven
Speaker 1: hundred yards twelve total touchdowns. Like they're definitely dangerous. Cooks
Speaker 1: is really really fast. Woods has had a career renaissance
Speaker 1: since he got to the Rams from Buffalo, But like
Speaker 1: I don't know, famous last words, like, these guys don't
Speaker 1: frighten me the way that other receivers the Cowboys played
Speaker 1: against not not in my opinion, And I think, like
Speaker 1: the thing that frightens you is that Sean mcvay's he's
Speaker 1: good at scheming things open, he's good at play design
Speaker 1: and and Todd Gurley makes you have to respect that
Speaker 1: to the point where they get favorable looks. But like,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Evans is better than them, Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: is better than them, Mike Thomas is, but you know,
Speaker 1: like it's he's he's not a Julio Jones that can
Speaker 1: do this stuff on his own. In my opinion, he
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of a guy like Isaac Bruce
Speaker 1: from Back's Yeah. But the reason why But the reason
Speaker 1: why I say that is because he was one of
Speaker 1: those guys that I don't think at any point in
Speaker 1: his career you were like, oh my god, he's one
Speaker 1: of the top three wide receivers in the league. But
Speaker 1: he's a guy that any given game can go off
Speaker 1: on you. And I mean even on his team a
Speaker 1: lot of for a lot of years, Tory Holt was
Speaker 1: considered to be the better of the two. Isaac Bruce
Speaker 1: to me was a very very quality will And I
Speaker 1: think that's the same thing right by Woods. Nobody ever
Speaker 1: says Isaac Bruce or Hold or Warner. But it was
Speaker 1: the combination of all of them with with Marshall Falk,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's the key being Marshall fall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but with the play action, I mean it with because
Speaker 1: of Gurley and all that play action, and then it
Speaker 1: makes Woods a better receiver, and it makes the speed
Speaker 1: absolutely and that's they're gonna get favorable looks and that's
Speaker 1: what makes them dangerous. I And all I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is I don't think they are take over the
Speaker 1: game type of talents like in Antonio Brown, which I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously he's the best receiver in football. So they're actually
Speaker 1: pretty mediocre in the red zone, which is shocking because
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley has something like eleven red zone touchdowns, Like
Speaker 1: it seems like you know, we've been saying all year, like, well,
Speaker 1: the Rams figured it out. If it's a Gurley in
Speaker 1: the red zone. They only score fifty seven percent of
Speaker 1: the time in the red zone, which is eighteenth in
Speaker 1: the league, and it's been a problem for them in
Speaker 1: the games that they've lost. They lost to Philly in
Speaker 1: part because they couldn't score touchdowns when they got down there.
Speaker 1: They only scored twenty three in that game. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd be interested in knowing, And I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: have to know right now, but I'd be interested. You
Speaker 1: might believe you I'm well, just ask no, ask the question. Well,
Speaker 1: the question is gonna be. I wonder if where they
Speaker 1: rank in the league as far as touchdowns outside the
Speaker 1: red zone, Like, how often are they getting where they're
Speaker 1: not even in the red zone. They're scoring from thirty,
Speaker 1: they're scoring from forty. They have those long touchdowns, so
Speaker 1: it's not even clearly, doesn't even matter. They're scoring a
Speaker 1: bunch of points. Our line of thinking is the same,
Speaker 1: But you're not. You're close, but you're not quite there.
Speaker 1: You're right. The thing is is this is insane. They
Speaker 1: get to the red zone forty four percent of the
Speaker 1: time they have the ball. Oh, every other drive, every
Speaker 1: other drive they get to the red zone, which is
Speaker 1: best in the league by like a significant I was
Speaker 1: going to say, is there anybody even close? I think
Speaker 1: the next best team is like thirty seven percent. They
Speaker 1: get to the red zone forty cent of the time.
Speaker 1: Every other time they touch the ball they get inside
Speaker 1: the opponent's twenty yard line. So even if they suck
Speaker 1: in the red zone, it doesn't matter because they get
Speaker 1: down there so much. They still wind up with a
Speaker 1: lot of points and a lot of opportunities to score.
Speaker 1: A lot of this has to do with the defense
Speaker 1: that they have, and they get thirty turnovers, which is
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that tomorrow. That ranks third in the league.
Speaker 1: I guarantee a lot of those are turnovers that are
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. And they've had some starting
Speaker 1: field position, probably favorable, which helps that. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that they don't they're not good at driving, No, that's
Speaker 1: a good point. Defense is helping them, Yeah, get the
Speaker 1: ball in short field sometimes. But you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like we I definitely highlighted every week. But that's that's
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys do well, is red zone defense. That's
Speaker 1: really their calling card. Like they don't force a lot
Speaker 1: of takeaways, at least not in the grand scheme of
Speaker 1: the league. They don't. You know, they don't you know,
Speaker 1: you're not going they're not getting three and out all
Speaker 1: the time, and they buckled down in the red zone.
Speaker 1: So they're probably gonna have to do it this week,
Speaker 1: I would guess. I would guess the Rams are going
Speaker 1: to be down there a few times. And it's just
Speaker 1: about how you respond to that forty four. I mean
Speaker 1: when I read that, I was, yeah, I'm glad that
Speaker 1: reads the names. I wonder where that ranks, like in
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. That seems extraordinarily high. But shoot, shoot, shoot,
Speaker 1: I really think this all comes down to Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: shocking analysis. I know, um great stuff, I know, just
Speaker 1: really hard hitting stuff. But he hasn't played since the sixteenth,
Speaker 1: Since since December second, he's got twenty three carries for
Speaker 1: seventy six yards, which is kind of amazing when you
Speaker 1: think about he's still finished what second or third in
Speaker 1: the league in rushing. I mean, he was right there
Speaker 1: in the mix. What exactly was his injury? I know
Speaker 1: it was to his knee, but was it a spring
Speaker 1: like not. I don't think he tore. I think it
Speaker 1: was like a sprained MCL or something like that. I
Speaker 1: don't have the specifics. I'm sorry, m but he I
Speaker 1: mean it has been he has sort of been shut
Speaker 1: down since December, which has been fine for them because
Speaker 1: they you know, they were already in the playoffs on
Speaker 1: December second. Probably, um, but obviously they want to run
Speaker 1: the ball. They're really good or running the ball. They
Speaker 1: average a hundred three yards a game, so and and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pride themselves on their run defense, so obviously
Speaker 1: it's big in that regard. But again, that's the Rams.
Speaker 1: That's like, their whole reason for being is to play fake,
Speaker 1: set up girly and use that to give Golf time
Speaker 1: and space to work with. And if they can't do it,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't trust him, straight up. I don't
Speaker 1: trust golf to put the team on his back, so
Speaker 1: to speak. All right, well, here's a question from Twitter.
Speaker 1: Were you done? Sorry? Well, I think this will be
Speaker 1: interesting for Derek. I think we've talked about it at
Speaker 1: times over the season, but you know, we talk about
Speaker 1: all the you know, jumbo personnel and twelve personnel. The
Speaker 1: Rams have run ninety six percent of their offensive plays
Speaker 1: out of eleven personnel, like which Sean McVay is just like, Nope,
Speaker 1: this is what we're good at and this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. And I just think that's refreshing. So
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett are their tight
Speaker 1: ends and they'll have a role to play. But like
Speaker 1: it's all about there. It's Robert Woods, Brandon Cooks, and
Speaker 1: now that cup has gone, it's Josh Reynolds, second year
Speaker 1: player out of a he's there, he's there, deep guy,
Speaker 1: he averages like sixteen yards per catch. It's those three
Speaker 1: guys in Gurley, and you're probably they're not going to
Speaker 1: vary it other than that. So in other words, Sean
Speaker 1: Lee probably is not going to get a lot of
Speaker 1: snaps this week either, because they're probably not. They're probably
Speaker 1: gonna be a nickel pretty much the entire game, nicol
Speaker 1: and maybe even some dime depending on how they want
Speaker 1: to do it. But yeah, yes, you're right. So all right,
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Speaker 1: Back to the break, you know, we have been to
Speaker 1: the coliseum I think to the last two years or
Speaker 1: two of the last two, in the last three, not
Speaker 1: this year for preseason games. Do we think that that's
Speaker 1: going to be the same atmosphere as what we'll have
Speaker 1: Saturday night. No, because it's the playoffs and it's just
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Speaker 1: atmosphere in the twenty sixteen game between like it was
Speaker 1: the Rams first game back in LA and it was
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and all this season. Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It was a nice environment for a preseason game, but
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Speaker 1: I got a question for you, guys. I can't remember. Um,
Speaker 1: is this the stadium where we had to walk? Okay,
Speaker 1: so Tommy John, right, it is that state? I think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, remember that all the way up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You don't, well, you don't. You guys went the wrong
Speaker 1: way because there's stairs on the outside of the facade
Speaker 1: that you have to take up. But you don't have
Speaker 1: to do that. There's an e stands like we went
Speaker 1: through the stands, yes, and walked all. I had to
Speaker 1: pause at one point, clearly pause, take a break. Okay.
Speaker 1: I caught you one time when you actually felt backwards
Speaker 1: like it was a lot. You don't half that way? Okay, good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Well you talked about Girly. We know what
Speaker 1: he can do. So here's a question between these two guys.
Speaker 1: If you were a defensive coordinator, which of these two
Speaker 1: scares you the most of what they can do on
Speaker 1: the field for this upcoming Girly or who Zike? Oh,
Speaker 1: that is an not an easy question to answer because
Speaker 1: of the style that they play. And if you had
Speaker 1: big guys up front, if that was the kind of
Speaker 1: defense you had, playing like a four to three and
Speaker 1: you had, I would I would think it would be,
Speaker 1: you know, harder to go up against Girly because of
Speaker 1: the but you if you had the speedy linebackers and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But because Zeke is tough in between
Speaker 1: the tackles, Girly kind of gets you all over the place.
Speaker 1: But to answer the question, I would say, probably Girly
Speaker 1: would be a little tougher. I think it's Girly and
Speaker 1: I think it's mainly but it's the scheme. It's a
Speaker 1: scheme that he plays in. I think they accentuate his
Speaker 1: strengths a little bit better than the Cowboys do. I've
Speaker 1: said that a million times, and I mean Zeke had
Speaker 1: seventy two catches or seventy seven catches, and he's been amazing.
Speaker 1: I still I think there's ways to utilize him even better.
Speaker 1: I all you know, against the Cowboys. I think about
Speaker 1: how they sent Gurley down the seam and split the
Speaker 1: safeties and turn that game on its head. You know,
Speaker 1: what was that? Like a fifty five yard touchdown or
Speaker 1: forty yard touchdown? You don't see Zeke doesn't do stuff
Speaker 1: like that, And I know for a fact it's not
Speaker 1: like his It's not that he can't, right, it's the
Speaker 1: scheme and the coaching and so yeah, I think Girly
Speaker 1: is the answer. But I don't think it's because he's
Speaker 1: definitively better than Zeke. I think if you flip these
Speaker 1: two guys, yes, would Zeke in LA. He'd be doing
Speaker 1: the same stuff one hundred percent. So I think these
Speaker 1: are evenly matched running backs. I think they have a
Speaker 1: lot of the same similar, similar traits and characteristics. So
Speaker 1: I don't really see that there's a bus. It's more
Speaker 1: of how they use. It's how they use. You said
Speaker 1: you think Zeke would do that in LA. You didn't finish.
Speaker 1: Do you think, yes, I think Girl could do the
Speaker 1: exact same things as Zeke does here, I really do. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm not, and I'm not sure. I don't watch him
Speaker 1: play as much. I know he's dynamic, and I know people,
Speaker 1: a lot of people play fantasy football, and so therefore
Speaker 1: he is great to have there. I get it. But
Speaker 1: sometimes you can forget that on third and one when
Speaker 1: the play isn't there, but your legs just bulldozed your
Speaker 1: way to the first down, or at least not a
Speaker 1: little dude. I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I don't. He's not like I don't, I don't see.
Speaker 1: I think they are both. I think they both have
Speaker 1: the same combination of speed, ability to catch, um, ability
Speaker 1: to to to to run and run strong like I've
Speaker 1: seen I've seen girly bows some guys. Okay, I've eard
Speaker 1: in one. Who are you giving the ball to? But
Speaker 1: you said you don't. You haven't watched him a lot,
Speaker 1: so you wouldn't really know, like you would not have
Speaker 1: a fair comparison between these two guys of what they
Speaker 1: can do in that sense. Why you asked the question? Then, Okay,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that specific. We moved on to another part
Speaker 1: of it. But I think I think that they could
Speaker 1: both do the other one's job perfectly. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you're you're splitting hairs, and I mean that's not
Speaker 1: what you want to hear in this hot take society.
Speaker 1: But like they're both pretty damn good. Sorry, well, I
Speaker 1: think the good way to look at it is what
Speaker 1: you said, just looking at how each team is them
Speaker 1: and what scheme they use. That's a better way as
Speaker 1: far as you being let's say, quote unquote what this
Speaker 1: person ask a defensive coordinator, then you would care more
Speaker 1: about what they are doing. And you know it's and
Speaker 1: I'm not The Cowboys are not as good on offense
Speaker 1: as the Rams are, obviously, but it has not been
Speaker 1: in the time that Zeke's been here, even when their
Speaker 1: offense was much better. It's not their m to zip
Speaker 1: up and down the field either. That's not the way
Speaker 1: they want to play. So all right, here's another question,
Speaker 1: and we'll get into the Rams defense and what they're
Speaker 1: doing tomorrow. But do you guys think that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: should put Cooper in the slot in some place versus
Speaker 1: the Rams? I like moving Cooper all around, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think he can do it. I think anything
Speaker 1: you ask him to do, he can probably do it. So,
Speaker 1: especially if you've got some issues now where you're worried
Speaker 1: about the health and how much you're going to be
Speaker 1: able to use guys like Cole and Tavon and obviously
Speaker 1: hearns being out. I actually think that the more you
Speaker 1: can do with him to move him around so teams
Speaker 1: can't get a beat on him being in one spot
Speaker 1: is better. And so yeah, I would definitely do that
Speaker 1: if I were making the decisions. Well, the thing is
Speaker 1: that you have to worry about is are you making
Speaker 1: your offense better by doing it? Because you know when
Speaker 1: he's on the outside, you know pretty much where Cole
Speaker 1: is going to be or Austin. You know if they're
Speaker 1: going to out there as as slot guys, those they're
Speaker 1: not really that great on the outside, especially Beasley. So
Speaker 1: by whatever you gain by putting Cooper in there, are
Speaker 1: you giving something up by Beasley on the outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the thing to consider there is how is
Speaker 1: the defense going to play you if you move him
Speaker 1: into the slot. Are they going to travel a guy
Speaker 1: with him or are you now going to get their
Speaker 1: third best cornerback if you put him in the slot.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, it doesn't matter who you
Speaker 1: put on the outside. The fact is he's getting a
Speaker 1: favorable matchup, especially if they're gonna play man against him
Speaker 1: like that. So it's all a chess game, right. You're
Speaker 1: trying to doing what you're doing and you're seeing how
Speaker 1: they're responding to it, and then you're making adjuns offense.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about having Beasley is that you know
Speaker 1: you kind of know where he's going to be, at
Speaker 1: least where he's gonna start out in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. But uh, you know, Tavon's not really that
Speaker 1: way because Tavon's got the speed. We've seen a couple
Speaker 1: of times, not a lot, but we've seen that he
Speaker 1: goes vertical. I have a feeling he's gonna ask for
Speaker 1: some of those this game, he's ready, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm hoping this is that game. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: saying all year, there's gonna be a game at some
Speaker 1: point you're gonna look back at and it's gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the Tavon game, because that's why you get him.
Speaker 1: He's not don't say it's not gonna be every week
Speaker 1: like he's not that kind of player. But my hope
Speaker 1: is that there's gonna be one or two times in
Speaker 1: a season where you're like, that was a game where
Speaker 1: they won that game because of Tavon Austin, and we
Speaker 1: saw flashes of it last week. That's the kind of
Speaker 1: difference he can make on especially on special teams. He
Speaker 1: can make a difference because he can take a play
Speaker 1: that now is just gonna be a fair catch in
Speaker 1: some instances, and he turns that into a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: that's what I think they need from him, is they
Speaker 1: need those kind of catalytic plays a story if he
Speaker 1: it's a for a touchdown in this game. Amazing. All right?
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that the Cowboys will blitz on
Speaker 1: third down kind of similar to what they did against Seattle?
Speaker 1: That's different because Carson Is or Penny or whoever they
Speaker 1: got is not girly. And that's what when you have
Speaker 1: backs like that that catch out of the backfield, it's
Speaker 1: tougher to blitz because they do have Okay, sin seven
Speaker 1: guys watch this. I just dumped it over their head.
Speaker 1: They like, they like the screen, right, so they do.
Speaker 1: It's a different type of you know, different type of
Speaker 1: situation for sure. Um we say it all the time.
Speaker 1: Third down, Yeah, you blitz twice in a row and
Speaker 1: then on the third one, you don't you play a
Speaker 1: prevent defense. I mean, you're just trying to confuse golf.
Speaker 1: As good as he is, as talented he is, as
Speaker 1: Dave said, he's still young. He's a young quarterback. I'm
Speaker 1: interested though It's funny, um, you know NFL all NFL
Speaker 1: players like they there's a one sentence scouting report that
Speaker 1: every fan can regurgitate, you know, and the line to
Speaker 1: this point in Goff's careers that if you get in
Speaker 1: his face, he's gonna fold. Like that's the perception at least.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said today that the thing that stood out
Speaker 1: to him the most during his college evaluation is how
Speaker 1: well he delivers the ball under pressure, Like he's not
Speaker 1: afraid to step up into a rush and throw a
Speaker 1: really pretty ball. And though obviously those two things contradict
Speaker 1: each other pretty well. So you know what, we've seen
Speaker 1: Goff once really in a meaningful game. So I'm interested
Speaker 1: to see which of the two of those is true, because,
Speaker 1: like I mean, I said, I don't trust him. I
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott has fifteen fourth quarter comebacks. How
Speaker 1: many does Jared Goff have? And obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: that's because they're comfortably ahead by the fourth quarter. Get
Speaker 1: in the red zone. That happened sometimes. I mean, Jake
Speaker 1: Plumber used to do it all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you even yeah, I remember Jake.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the Snake, those guy Andy Dalton, Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of comebacks because they're the ones
Speaker 1: that are put their team down. Yeah, you know of
Speaker 1: a back end, Tom, but I sorry, the captain of comeback.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it happens. But that's that's a fair point. But
Speaker 1: I mean Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have spent a
Speaker 1: lot of their careers comfortably ahead too, but they have
Speaker 1: track records of coming through when they need, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying Jared Goff can't do it, but
Speaker 1: I am not familiar with that. And so I'm curious
Speaker 1: if if the Cowboys can make a game of this
Speaker 1: and smack him around a little bit, is he up
Speaker 1: to that challenge. I don't know, I really don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think about a guy like Aaron Rodgers. He's made
Speaker 1: a living off the fact that you get to that
Speaker 1: one thirty seven left in the game, they get the ball,
Speaker 1: they're down about three, and he's gonna win. Like know,
Speaker 1: nothing about that, and that's saying like that's so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could say that they have a little part in it,
Speaker 1: but there is still something to just knowing when you
Speaker 1: get the ball with a little bit of time left
Speaker 1: and you're down, if you got a quarterback that can
Speaker 1: deliver it matters matters in the NFL. And that's I
Speaker 1: don't want to get I don't want to give too
Speaker 1: much away because I'm writing about it later this week,
Speaker 1: but like I just this is a real fun matchup
Speaker 1: in terms of narratives, because I mean the narrative for
Speaker 1: a year and a half is that Sean McVay has
Speaker 1: revolutionized the world of football, and you know, the world,
Speaker 1: every world he's gonna solve. He's gonna solve the crisis,
Speaker 1: the Middle East and everything like all that. He's gonna everything.
Speaker 1: But if he loses this game, then he's twenty four
Speaker 1: and five, twenty four and eight in the regular season
Speaker 1: with two one and duns in the playoffs. Liked when
Speaker 1: he had a buy, yeah, he was, he didn't have
Speaker 1: this year when he's had a by both of his
Speaker 1: teams that were so good in the regular season, that
Speaker 1: got home games that wouldn't move, whereas I mean, and
Speaker 1: I mean to be you know im, I want to
Speaker 1: be objective. You can say the same thing about Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: If he wins this game, he's the guy that got
Speaker 1: the Cowboys back to the game that they hadn't been
Speaker 1: to in twenty years. And if he loses, then he's
Speaker 1: owned three in the divisional round the same and he's
Speaker 1: a choke artist and that that's not me saying that
Speaker 1: that's on their line. For these teams outside and just
Speaker 1: to win huge. Do you think it would be more
Speaker 1: excited about their team winning Tavon Austin or Wade Phillips.
Speaker 1: I mean, they will dance differently after the game. I
Speaker 1: would like to think Wade, I would think about it.
Speaker 1: I would like to think that Wade Phillips has kind
Speaker 1: of made it peace with what happened here, Like if
Speaker 1: he's still been one been fired from like targets around
Speaker 1: he won to he won a super Bowl with with
Speaker 1: one of the cowboys best players, Like if he's still
Speaker 1: that No, I get that part, it's been there's been
Speaker 1: some time. But that guy over there, Jason Garrett, is
Speaker 1: the guy was on his dead Oh sure, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden when it went down, he got
Speaker 1: to be the head. It's still fresh for Tavon. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, Well, Wade, is that years of kind
Speaker 1: of dealing with that is I'm sure part of part
Speaker 1: of Wade will always be happy to beat the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: But like Tavon, it had definitely a different kind of
Speaker 1: statisfact action. But I would go with the coaching. I
Speaker 1: would say Tavon because it just hasn't even been a
Speaker 1: year since they shipped them away, and he's, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a first round pick pick that hasn't lived up
Speaker 1: this first time. He's getting way. Does this every try
Speaker 1: to prove what I've every week? Wait time too, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeahs a oh dang, we're done. We are done, and
Speaker 1: we ran out of time. We'll be back tomorrow, though.
Speaker 1: We'll keep answering some of y'all's questions that and thank
Speaker 1: you guys for sending those in. And Dave will give
Speaker 1: us counting report on the Rams defense tomorrow. So Donald,
Speaker 1: he's good, good play all right for a long time.
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