1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Because the trade deadline is the week of Super Bowl. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: The NBA comes in and steals the headlines, and boy 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: did it. Twelve twelve am Eastern Time on Saturday night, 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: the tweet went out that most people didn't believe Luka 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Doncic has been traded from the Dallas Mavericks to the 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony Davis. There are other pieces, 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: but frankly it doesn't matter because that shook everything to 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: its core. First question, Shaquille, where were you? How did 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: you find out? And did you believe it? 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: I was at a hookah bar and I got the 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: tweet and then I had to look because yeah, you know, 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: it's crazy. I don't have no perception of time and date. 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: So I dumbly asked myself, is this April fools? That 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: I had to go to the count and be like, 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: it's February so and then you know, once you see 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: one source, you got to keep going right. So I 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: looked at it and it says Scham's ESPN. So like 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: that ESPN is credible, And I went to the all 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: the sites, and I went to all the sites. Then 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: I made the call to one of my boys in Dallas, 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Rowe parish. I said, Rose, it's true. He said, yeah, 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: it's true. Dallas is going crazy. So now questions start 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: to come up. One times, let me go back. I 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: can remember. The saddest day for me is a trade 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: when the great Patrick Ewing was traded. I was in 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: the league, but still you like, damn Patrick Ewing was traded. 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: Nobody's safe, right, and then Dominique Wilkins got traded. Nobody's safe. 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: So I was like, I knew that the business of 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: basketball from the owners standpoint, nobody cares. And that's why 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: you know, peoples like, okay, why are you sticking up 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: for Jimmy because they get to trade you in the 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: middle of the night without telling you. But when you 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: say I want to be traded in the middle of 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: the night, now it's all He's a He's a distraction 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: to the team. He does this, he does that, he 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: walked out a shoot around. We're going to fight him. 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: That's why I say, nobody cares in the business of basketball. 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: Now you start to say to yourself, twenty five year 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: old superstar, they get rid of him in the middle 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: of the night without telling his representation, not telling him. 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Something else is going on, and what I love about 42 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: the internet. Is you hear all the conspiracy theories. So 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: let me address one conspiracy theory that I was a 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: part of. He's out of shape, he does this, he 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: does that. Okay, Now let's look at the facts. Last 46 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: five years, has he been all NBA? Okay? 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: Which team first? 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: Okay? 49 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: Cool? 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: Last five years he's average. 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: We either like top three points per game in the end? 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, twenty eight. Last five years, has he taken 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: him to the finals. 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: He went to the finals and two conference finals. 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: Okay. So my question is, and the answer is, what 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. In shape you do all that, out of 57 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: shape you do all that. What difference does it make us? 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: I used to come in out of shape on purpose 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: because one who the fuck am I getting ready for? 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 2: I'm only getting ready for me and maybe one guy, 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: which is a Tim Duncan. But I don't really plan. 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: So you know, here and here I'm you know, I 63 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: talk about all the time, I'm averaging twenty eight period, 64 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the top center at my position. So 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: all this stuff he was out of shape, that's just 66 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: to throw dirt on his name and his legacy. But 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: you're not really making sense because you know, to me, 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: out of shape is I can't play, I can't breathe, 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: I can't perform. This man has been first team All NBA. 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: I was first team All NBA. This man is a 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: future Hall of famer. I'm a Hall of Famer. I 72 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: got three statues. So what difference does it make when 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: you say when you say he's out of shape? And 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: I always tell people I was never out of basketball shape. 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm out of wrestling shape, because like you know, I'm 76 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: coming in, I gotta go to go through four people 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: and hacker shock and this and that. I didn't train 78 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: for that, which is when I started training you for 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: UFC and stop training basketball and the summer that's why 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: I started winning championships. Shout out to John Burke, sixth levels. 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: So the crazy thing about this is I'm hearing all 82 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: the conspiracy with what goes around. But the business of 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: basketball is very treacherous. And this is historical, not because 84 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: the two players, because you trade a twenty five year 85 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: old superstar and you don't really give the reasons why 86 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: he was traded. I think Dallas has probably won the 87 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 2: trade because ad goes into a natural position with better 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: players around him. Of course, you got two top named players, 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Lebron and you got Luca. I don't see who else 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: they got. I don't see them going far. But the 91 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Lakers have always been smart. The Lakers have always had 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: to have a big name player. So they're preparing for 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: the demise of Lebron and the birth of Luca. That's 94 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: another question you have to ask. You know, you hear 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: all these people all they can't play together. They can 96 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: play together because you know, they both do need the 97 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: ball a lot. But when they do get the ball, 98 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: they gonna make great decisions. So that's why I think 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: they can together. But they have no size. Both those 100 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: guys aren't really great defensive players. So I think Dallas 101 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: definitely won the trade. But to trade a twenty five 102 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: year older in the middle of the night without true explanation, 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: I find that to be weird. 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: So few things. Number One, Luca was a fit. We're 105 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: recording this on Tuesday. Luca was officially announced with the 106 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Lakers today held up the jersey. He also thought it 107 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: was an April fool's joke when he saw the news. 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: That's how secret this was. 109 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: And you sit back and hear all of it. I 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: even hear one guy says that the Dallas ownership has 111 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: got rid of him because they want a tank so 112 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: they can get a new casino. That's why I love 113 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: him hate the internet at the same time. But kulos 114 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: to Luca for being professional. He's better than I am 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: because I would have went cleaned the golf twenty five 116 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: averaging twenty eight all NBA. You trade me the middle 117 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: of the light. So I hope when he goes back 118 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: to Dallas he kills him every time. That that right 119 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: there is gonna be my CTV. 120 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: And I just want to clarify one thing and then 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: I kind of want to get into this. 122 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: Because I've been thinking about this for a while. 123 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: When you say Dallas wins the trade, you mean for 124 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: this year, like if they're going for it this year, 125 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: Dallas wins the trade because long you would still say 126 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Dallas wins the trade. 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: Yes, because they got better players around You got Kyrie, right, 128 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: you got a d that's your one two point right 129 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 2: there now. I like PG. I like the young fella. 130 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: I like the shooters that he got around them. When 131 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: you talk about the Lakers. 132 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: This Dallas is a better team right now. But the 133 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: team that can have Luca for the next decade, to me, 134 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: feels like the winner. 135 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Lucas still need pieces around them, but. 136 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: That's going to come. I mean, like, maybe. 137 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Let's let me propose this to you, yes, number one, 138 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: When when you have NBA players like Josh Hart saying 139 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: it was highway robbery, when you have conspiracy theories coming 140 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: out as to why Dallas would make this trade, whenever 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: you need to make conspiracy theories, typically it makes sense 142 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: that the other team won. Also, when I hear that 143 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: the reason Dallas made the trade partially is because their 144 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: GM has an amazing relationship with Anthony Davis and he 145 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: loves him, and that La he was friends with the GM. 146 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: I never want to be on the side of the 147 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: guy that's super biased, the guy that's like, oh, I 148 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: want to trade for the guys that I love. I 149 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: want to be on the side of I want to 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: trade for the best player twenty five year old Luca 151 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: compared to thirty two year old Anthony Davis, who we 152 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: did the game on Tuesday and he got hurt again, Like, 153 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: I want to be on the side of the young 154 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: guy who's on pace to break Michael Jordan and Lebron 155 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: James's record that's the excite I want to be in 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: business with and also just from like a business perspective, 157 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: and I think you know this better than anybody. I 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: want to be on the side of long term gains, 159 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: like I know you're in this mindset too. I read 160 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: a lot of Art of War sun Zoo because I'm 161 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: fascinated with how to attack situations. And there were two 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: things that I thought were really important. One is know 163 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: your enemy and know yourself. And when I heard that 164 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Rob Polinka is like really good friends with Nico Harrison 165 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: and Nico, and he kind of used that friendship in this. 166 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Rob knew Nico, and Nico didn't know Rob because apparently 167 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: Nico asked for more and Rob was like, listen, you've 168 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: told me how much of an issue Luca is. I'm 169 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: taking on risk here by taking Luca. 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