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Speaker 2: What a time for it.

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Speaker 1: Now third down and ten, first sack of the night.

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Speaker 2: The catch is good. That's the tale of what happened

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Speaker 2: on Monday night, had so stadium as Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 2: a twenty to seventeen victory over the Los Angeles Chargers,

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Speaker 2: a game that was fraught with errors on both sides,

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers. I'm nick Schook here with the Monday

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Speaker 2: Night recap along with pleasure to be joined by Jane

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Speaker 2: Slater and Jane, I'll tell you what, it wasn't the

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Speaker 2: prettiest game, but the Cowboys they held on. They were

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Speaker 3: Defense once again bailing them out here.

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Speaker 4: Nick, you know, at some point we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: about what happened with the Cowboys heading into the half.

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Speaker 4: It didn't need to be this hard. That sort of

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Speaker 4: lesser teams. Of course, they didn't catch the break with

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers last week, and then we now

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Speaker 3: One of them. But here the Cowboys coming to town.

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Speaker 4: Facing Kellen wore in the Chargers, which, if anyone followed

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Speaker 4: this saga last year, the biggest indictment of Kellen Moore

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Speaker 4: was they wasn't running the ball enough that this was

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Speaker 4: a guy that wanted to light up the scoreboard. Tonight,

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Speaker 4: we didn't really see either team lighting up the scoreboard,

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Speaker 4: did we, Nick? But what we did see was Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: as you said, sort of got through this one, fraught

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Speaker 4: for me, it was good to see them finally get

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Speaker 4: the ball to Ceede Lamb after last week him expressing

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Speaker 3: We saw it on the sidelines.

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Speaker 4: We heard about Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott talking to

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Speaker 3: Get him the ball.

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Speaker 4: By the way, that paid off seven receptions for one

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Speaker 4: here lately, haven't really seen him involved. They finally got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was funny. Earlier in that game

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Speaker 4: That was an incredible play and it was one that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't get any easier for them. That's kind

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Speaker 2: It's more about them playing you know, complimentary football. Some

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Speaker 4: I just I'm still looking for a decisive win from them.

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Speaker 2: So we've had two instances of this happening in the

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Speaker 4: I'm prepared to if you left, did you leave him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everybody needs to stop being the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you're not exactly it's I think everyone's

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Speaker 3: And we were talking earlier that third quarter.

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Speaker 4: The fact they got in only five plays and they

437
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 4: had negative yards to finish it. I mean, the Chargers

438
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 4: absolutely controlled the time of possession in the third quarter. Again,

439
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 4: it just it sometimes this offense just feels so stagnant

440
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 4: to me. It feels very conservative to me. That's why

441
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,480
Speaker 4: I love to see Dak. You don't want to see

442
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,199
Speaker 4: that putting his body on the line every time, but

443
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,400
Speaker 4: it was nice to see him rush there and get

444
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 4: that what was an eighteen yard touchdown at one point.

445
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 4: Seeing him use his legs that's what made him so

446
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,639
Speaker 4: great his rookie season. It's almost like they sort of

447
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,640
Speaker 4: started putting him in bubble wrap.

448
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 3: And I get it.

449
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 4: After the injury that he had against the Giants a

450
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, it was gruesome.

451
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,679
Speaker 3: It was awful to watch.

452
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 4: I know it was a tough recovery, and then of

453
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 4: course he had a couple of other injuries after that.

454
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 4: But it was nice to see him sort of use

455
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 4: his legs because I think that's what makes him special

456
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 4: at times, because he is an athletic quarterback and I

457
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 4: just feel like maybe they've handcuffed him a little bit

458
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 4: this year.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean first rushing touchdown since Week eight of

460
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. You know, Jane, here's a fun stat

461
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Speaker 2: from NFL research to find folks over there. The Cowboys

462
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 2: are now twenty one and four when Dak scores a

463
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown, which proves the point that you just made.

464
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean, and what it really I think speaks to

465
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 2: is the way McCarthy has approached this team for I

466
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe the last two maybe three seasons, coaching

467
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 2: not to lose instead of coaching to win. And it's

468
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 2: very you know, you see often the flip side of

469
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 2: that coin is Brandon Staley going for it in situations

470
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 2: in which you're like, why are you going for it

471
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 2: on fourth down on your own twenty five? And they're like, well,

472
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: the analytics say it, and then you go to next

473
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: gen stats and it's like, actually, next gen stats is

474
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 2: that because of the how it could affect the game,

475
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 2: it is a better decision to go for it because

476
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: you can end it effectively right there, even if you

477
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: know logic says otherwise, so has.

478
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Speaker 4: An impressive fourth down and go for it number I

479
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 4: think I saw during the broadcast. I don't have it

480
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 4: at the top of my head, but I think he

481
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 4: has missed a fourth down guy.

482
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Speaker 2: Oh he is. He defines analytics driven fourth down decisions.

483
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: That guy will go for it quicker than anybody else

484
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: in the NFL, which may end up costing him his

485
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 2: job if they don't turn things. I mean they're not.

486
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: They're a losing team right now, but it's not looking

487
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 2: too good. But back to your point about that, I

488
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: just think that that's the way McCarthy kind of coaches.

489
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: I even felt like he was like that in Green

490
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: Bay for a stretch, which kind of led to his

491
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: departure from there, And that's probably just what you're gonna get.

492
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna get him also burning timeouts at weird times

493
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 2: and going into the fourth quarter of a tie game

494
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 2: with one time out left, which he lucked out. That

495
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 2: did not burn him to but you know, in some states,

496
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: in some instances, it will. So I think that's something

497
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: that you have to accept. But what's funny to me

498
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: that came to mind earlier when you were talking about

499
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 2: the feeling around this team. I'm in Cleveland, where everybody's

500
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: you know, hopes and dreams rest on the Browns. I

501
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 2: live within the city limits. My neighbor right behind me

502
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: is a diehard Browns fan. Everybody wants to talk about

503
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: the Browns at the gym anywhere, and it's all about

504
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: the next game. And let me tell you, the lead

505
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 2: up the last week's game was depressing, and when they won,

506
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 2: everybody here is on cloud nine. It's funny to me

507
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 2: that the whole feeling around an entire season and team

508
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: that an area identifies so deeply with can rest on

509
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: the most recent result and why this win was so important.

510
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: Like you said, but it just makes me laugh that

511
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: at the same time, there's more people selling than buying,

512
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: there's more people that are skeptical than not. The expectations

513
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: are different. I understand the drought of not getting past

514
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: the divisional round of the playoffs, and look, that's got

515
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: to be painful, But at the same time, it's just

516
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: so I mean, people care about the NFL so much.

517
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: It just makes me laugh to think, man, people really

518
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: are uptight about a Cowboys team that just went and

519
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: got a gritty win.

520
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: Well in the morning after, no matter how ugly the

521
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: win is, a w makes all the difference because if

522
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 4: they had actually lost this game, I think our narrative

523
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: about Dak would be a little different. Our narrative about

524
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 4: the play calling will be a little bit different, But

525
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 4: sort of like putting a little bit of a lipstick

526
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 4: on a pig when they win the game, because I

527
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: think we would be having a very different conversation Micah

528
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: Parsons didn't have that sack and they blew their three

529
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: point lead there at the end.

530
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Speaker 3: I just, you know, going back to what you're saying

531
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Speaker 3: about Dak.

532
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm a huge Dak fan off the field, incredible guy,

533
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: but when I'm beginning to look at his body of work,

534
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: his body language last week against the forty nine ers,

535
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 4: it just, for whatever reason, feels like things have been hard.

536
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: And granted, he's been through so many different offensive corn

537
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: I mean we're talking Scott Lenahan, Wade Wilson, John Kittna,

538
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: Douga Smeyer, all of this, now, Schottenheimer, all these guys

539
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: in his ear, Scott Tolzine in his ear. You know,

540
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: he works in the offseason footwork. I know he's got

541
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 4: a lot of messaging coming in. And when you're a

542
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 4: player for the Dallas Cowboys, you also see it, read it.

543
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: You tell everybody you don't pay attention to it. You campartmentalize.

544
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 4: I don't believe that for a second, but it is

545
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: interesting to me that if you looked at his career,

546
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: getting his team to the postseason, the way that he has,

547
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 4: the way that he typically does play, if he was

548
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: playing for the Panthers, would dak be under the same

549
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 4: level of scrutiny about who he is as a quarterback

550
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: and as a player if he was playing for the Panthers.

551
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. And I also think that his path

552
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: to this position makes a difference because nobody when he

553
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: came out of Mississippi State, Nobody was like, Yeah, Dakota

554
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: Rayne Prescott, He's going to be the future of the Cowboys.

555
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: And then he was. And then he got the money.

556
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: Remember the conversation around his contract extension at the time

557
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: forty million a year. You out of your mind, Well

558
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: that's what he got. I mean, you had to take

559
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: a franchise tag for it, but that's what he got.

560
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: He's always been fighting against that, I think, and he

561
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: would do himself a whole lot of good if he

562
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 2: wouldn't want a Super Bowl, but he hasn't yet. And

563
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: because he plays the Cowboys, he is constantly going to

564
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: be under that microscope. That's what you get when you

565
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: wear I mean, I don't have to tell you. You know this,

566
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: when you wear the star in your helmet, that's what

567
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: you get. It's unfortunate, but that's just the reality of

568
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: the situation.

569
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 3: Well, and I.

570
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: Think a lot of people that are Dak fans Dak

571
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: stands they are particularly sensitive to the comparisons between him

572
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 4: and Kirk Cousins.

573
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Speaker 3: And I get that, oh, I hit.

574
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: A nerve, unintentionally hit a nerve.

575
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 4: But if you look at he and Kirk Cousins, they

576
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: are a little similar lately, you know, and even just

577
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: their their willingness to bet on themselves. I mean, there

578
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: is this sort of mentality that is very similar. They're

579
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: also both very well liked in their locker room at nauseum.

580
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: But it's their inability to win some of those big

581
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: games and their inability to win and extend in the

582
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 4: postseason that I do think sort of puts Dak in

583
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: that Kirk Cousins too. And again I would argue that

584
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 4: if he was playing for another team, just as I

585
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: was saying, his career wouldn't be as scrutinized. I don't

586
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: think that you would be comparing him. I don't know

587
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: why the Kirk Cousins thing is such a knock. I mean,

588
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: I think Kirk Cousins has actually done a pretty good

589
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: job there in Minnesota and throughout his career. Yeah, but

590
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: for whatever reasons, people love to bag on Kirk. But

591
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: I do wonder that if Dak was playing somewhere like

592
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: the Browns or the Panthers, and he had put up

593
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: the same numbers and their resume, if there would be

594
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: so much scrutiny about his play, good or.

595
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: Bad from a national perspective.

596
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: Visualize it putting his put a different jersey on him.

597
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, from a national perspective, especially with the Panthers. Now,

598
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: I think locally, if he was with a team like

599
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: the Browns or the Steelers, yeah, they'd be all over him,

600
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: just like they're all over de Shaun Watson in this

601
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: town right now. But from a national perspective, no, And

602
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: that's just the price you pay for being the Cowboys.

603
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: Because the Cowboys generate, you know, the most clicks, the

604
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: most views, that's just who they are. They got a

605
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: massive fan base that fills Sofi Stadium when the Chargers played,

606
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: because they apparently have more Cowboys fans in the area,

607
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: which does not surprise me. Then Chargers fans in the

608
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Los Angeles area. So you're right, and perhaps it's a

609
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: bit unfair, but that's also kind of what his football

610
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: fate has led him to. And because he had success early,

611
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: that's just the path that's been set forth for him

612
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: and he's just had to travel that. It's just that

613
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, and we're getting way ahead of it here,

614
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: and I admit that, but I don't know what happens

615
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: a year from now, two years from now, like it

616
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: could look vastly different. The same pressure will be applied

617
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: to the next quarterback that plays with the Cowboys about

618
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: one thousand percent.

619
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: And you know, sometimes you know, I find myself or

620
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: Cowboy fans that say, you know, even like after the

621
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers game, a lot of people are ready

622
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 4: to move on from Dak Prescott.

623
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: My whole argument is what else are you going to

624
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: go get? What do you want?

625
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: And I don't know if Trey Lance is mature enough.

626
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 4: I don't know him that well personally, but I don't

627
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: know if he has the type of shoulders, you know,

628
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 4: the broad shoulders that you have to have to wear

629
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: the star on your home, in the scrutiny that.

630
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: Comes with it.

631
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: You know, Dak, even as he came in as sort

632
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: of a bright eyed, bushy tailed rookie, he felt mature

633
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: beyond his years. And he's talked about this, you know,

634
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 4: as it relates to his mother and what he went

635
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: through growing up. He just always felt like he was

636
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 4: ready to step into that opportunity and he could handle it.

637
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if Trey is now.

638
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 4: Granted, Trey took a lot of hits in San Francisco

639
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 4: and the media scrutiny leading up to the draft, so

640
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: there are elements to him that he has.

641
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 3: He understands that.

642
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: But think how much we were talking about a third

643
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: string quarterback getting traded to Dallas like it's it's always

644
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 4: a big deal and so, and then the argument of well,

645
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 4: who would want Dak? I bet you Sean Payton pick

646
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: up the phone. I bet Sean Payton would love a

647
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott right now. I mean, there's going to be

648
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: a team that's going to be in the market for

649
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott. But just show me what other quarterback you

650
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: want to bring to Dallas. And my argument is you

651
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: can't cut him it's going to hit you too much

652
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 4: in the book, Yes, but I just I'm like you,

653
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: I've got questions marks about what it's going to look

654
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: like moving forward, and I just hope that his career

655
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: doesn't ultimately end the way that Tony Romos did, which

656
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: was started to feel like he couldn't win the big games. Yeah,

657
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: the reason why Dak was so energizing for the locker

658
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 4: room is when Romo felt like he was more often

659
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 4: losing games for you, Dak gave you the sense that

660
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: he was going to win.

661
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: More of those games free in the fourth quarter.

662
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: But here lately, I don't know if those of us

663
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: that cover this team fans have as much trust as

664
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 4: we did in Dak early on his careers. And I

665
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: don't know if that's Dak. I don't know if that's

666
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: his receivers. I don't know if it's the coaching, quite frankly,

667
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 4: and so I think that's the hard part, is like

668
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: it's always.

669
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 3: What is it?

670
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: Last year? I would pin a lot of the blame

671
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: on the personnel. I don't think he had enough options.

672
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Once they traded Amari Cooper for peanuts amounting in the

673
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: form of fifth round picks, they he didn't really have

674
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: anybody to go to. It was a glaring knee. I

675
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: don't think that's necessarily the issue now, and I think

676
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: it goes back to what we kind of discussed earlier,

677
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: which is that since the injury and since everything else,

678
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: you know, what energized him and the Cowboys when he

679
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: first came in was his ability to do both to

680
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: throw and to run. And he's not running that much.

681
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: He scores a touchdown tonight, key touchdown for them early

682
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: in this game, but are you going to see that

683
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: from on a week to week basis? Probably not, And

684
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: that goes back to the conservative coaching style, right, So,

685
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: because you go to preserve your quarterback above all, you

686
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: don't want to be in a position where you have

687
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: to go to, you know, somebody like a Tree Lance

688
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: in a big spot and or you know, like they

689
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: were last year when they had to go to Cooper

690
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: Rush for a little bit. You don't want to be

691
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: in that situation. Nobody does. That's why you go pay

692
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: a starting quarterback. So there's a little bit of both there,

693
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: I think. But again I think we go back to

694
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: the ceiling and it feels like a lot like when

695
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: the Chargers fired Mar Schotheimer after they went fourteen to two.

696
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: They were just like, well, you can't win the big one,

697
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: and then they took a huge step back with north

698
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: Turner over the course of that tenure's and the grass

699
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: is always greener on the other side. But is it

700
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: actually that green? Like is the next option that good?

701
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, And I think again, I think we're

702
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: getting ahead of ourselves because there is so much left

703
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: in this season to play. Okay, Like, they can rattle

704
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: off a number of wins here, like if you look

705
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: at their schedule.

706
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: But if you look at their schedule, if you look

707
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: at their scal I know it's tough.

708
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: I see a soft spot. I see giants, giants, Panthers,

709
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: and commanders will be tough because I think their defense

710
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: will show up for that one and then it gets

711
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: really tough throughout the rest of it. So you're gonna

712
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: have to rattle off some wins. You're gonna have to

713
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: get a win over the Eagles. And now I see

714
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: you understand. I understand now while you're looking ahead and thinking,

715
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: oh man, catastrophe could be setting in. I mean, if

716
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: you take it in a week to week basis, I mean,

717
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: look not to take it back to Cleveland, but the

718
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: Browns did just beat the forty nine ERSIL with PJ Walker. Okay,

719
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: crazy things, Nick, You.

720
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: Can't you can't keep expecting your defense to bail you out.

721
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: And I think that's my concern about Dallas is when

722
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: they start playing some of these higher scoring offenses, you

723
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: can't keep expecting your defense to bail you out. You've

724
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: got to start putting more points on the board.

725
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: That's to me.

726
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: The one thing that's standing out about this this Dak

727
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: team is you really don't know what you're getting week

728
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: to week.

729
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is we spend this time talking

730
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: about how DAK is being scrutinized so much and how

731
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: so much of it revolves around him, and as the

732
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: most important position in all of sports, it will naturally

733
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 2: with one of the most watched teams in the world.

734
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: But then you think about how Justin Herbert had a

735
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: bad night tonight, and how the only people that are

736
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: going to talk about that are like the Sea block

737
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: of a morning show and the football heads on Twitter

738
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: because it's the Chargers. Like, if you want to pick

739
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: a pairing where this guy has room for air, it's

740
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: the Chargers a team that can ever play a normal game,

741
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: and this was not a normal game by any stretch

742
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: of the imagination. And they're arguably in a worse situation

743
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: if you can think about it in terms of talent

744
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: and what they have on both sides of the field,

745
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: and what their season looks like. But again, what's going

746
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: to dominate the conversations the team that you know quite well,

747
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys.

748
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: Well, and Steven A. Smith of course was at the game.

749
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: So I'm sure that there's going to be lots.

750
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: Of talk about in his cowboy hat.

751
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: And his cowboy hat, it's a bit people love to

752
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: talk about it, But I don't know people are going

753
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: to still feel I mean, how do you think that

754
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 4: Dak is going to be talked about tomorrow after this game?

755
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: Well, because media discussions so often are driven by hate.

756
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: Just to put it plainly, there will be some worthwhile

757
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: criticism of his play. But again, you don't go win

758
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: this game without him. I mean some of the plays

759
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: that he made in this game. Yeah he missed a

760
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: couple of throws. Yeah, but yeah, he missed a couple

761
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: of throws, but he also found some guys and he

762
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: was on target on time a number of times, Like

763
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing QB Index this year, and I'm going to

764
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: look at this game and think, I don't know if

765
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: I want to move him up, but he's not going

766
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: to move down, and whereas Justin Herbert's going to move

767
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: down off of performance like this. So you have to

768
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: be happy with those results, even if they're not spectatic.

769
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: It's not going to be spectacular every week. He's not

770
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: going to throw for three to fifty every week, but

771
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: you're right, it will be talk like that.

772
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: But I think what this game showed you is can

773
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: you start getting Brandon Cooks more involved? I mean, I

774
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: think a lot of us here in Dallas have been

775
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: asking ourselves he runs a four three forty. You went

776
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 4: out and got a vertical deep threat, and I think

777
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: at one point in the game, and I don't know

778
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: if this was still the case when the game ended,

779
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: they only had one pass of over twenty yards. I mean, granted,

780
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: the Chargers did a good job of isolating some of

781
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: those big plays, but the Cowboys are afraid of the

782
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: deep shots this year.

783
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: Yes they are. They are.

784
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: I mean they're taking some of them.

785
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: But I just saw a recent report by Buddy Patrick

786
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: Walker over Dallas Cowboys dot Com road.

787
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: It was a fascinating article. Mike McCarthy. For the most part,

788
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 3: it just avoided the middle of the field.

789
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: Leading up to the forty nine Ers game, just completely

790
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: ignored the middle of the field. And so I'm still

791
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: I've reached out to somebody and I've asked them, is

792
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 4: some of this play calling lately is it a concerted

793
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: effort to eliminate some of the interceptions last year? They

794
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: didn't want to comment on that. You know, it was

795
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: sort of one of those no, that's not the case.

796
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.

797
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: But for all of us watching it, we can't help

798
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: but ask that question.

799
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: I think it's a fair question.

800
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a major talking point throughout the offseason

801
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: and into the season, and it's affecting his play. I

802
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: think that you're trying to protect your quarterback from making

803
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: those mistakes again and trying to keep his confidence high.

804
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you're actually going to

805
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: maximize the potential of this offense, you do have to

806
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: throw the ball down the field, especially when you have

807
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: a guy like Brandon Cooks who has not made I mean,

808
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: I looked at the stats to night, he tied his

809
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: single game high this year for receptions with four, and

810
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 2: he's set a new yardage mark at thirty four. That's

811
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: not Brandon Cooks. No matter where he's been, he's made

812
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: a difference. He's been on a number of teams and

813
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: he's made a difference on all of them and he

814
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: could do the same thing for this team. But they

815
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: got to figure it out so.

816
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: And he looked great in camp.

817
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I think for all of us that were

818
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: watching Brandon and Dak in camp, that was the most

819
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: solid connection on the field. And tonight was really the

820
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: first night that we've started to see them utilize him,

821
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 4: and he stepped up in a big way in the

822
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: second half. For you you have two incredible threat like

823
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb. The fact that they weren't really going to

824
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: him last week that was confusing, and then you finally

825
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 4: get him the ball this week and you see.

826
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: What he can do. It was a couple of weeks ago.

827
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: CD was frustrated then and he just said, we were

828
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: talking about the red zone woes and he said, just

829
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: get me the ball and I'm going to get it

830
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: in and he did in that game. And after last

831
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: week he said get me the ball. Good things are

832
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 4: going to happen. They did that today, good things were

833
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: beginning to happen. So I just feel like there was

834
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: times when Mike McCarthy and again that's why keep going

835
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: back to you, is this Dak checking out a certain

836
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: place Because there are certain situations too, Nick, where if

837
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: you're looking at the game, Dax had guys open, it's

838
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 4: like he's not seeing them.

839
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was going to go to, is

840
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: that I think he is hesitant to take the shot.

841
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: There was actually there was a play I was messaging

842
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: our fellow writer Kevin Patrick and I during the game

843
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: where it resulted in a sack and he had an option.

844
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: It was a wheel route.

845
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: It was.

846
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Jalen Tolbert. He was open and he saw him and

847
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: he had a little hitch, little pump fake like I

848
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: want to throw it, but I'm not sure I want

849
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: to throw it because's Jalen Tolbert and I don't trust him,

850
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: and now I'm sacked. I don't want to make take

851
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: the risk. Not taking the risk will burn you. Eventually,

852
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: Eventually he's gonna have to play in simple He's going.

853
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: To have to the thing that I you know, because

854
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: I hadn't really seen too much of Brock Purdy play

855
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 4: this year. You know, when you're focused on one team,

856
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: you're not watching some of these other teams as much.

857
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: Brock just looks so confident, decisive and convicted under center.

858
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 4: Watching him last week, Yeah, and then you watch Dak

859
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 4: and it's like you're watching him process things in real time.

860
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes.

861
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 4: That's why it's fascinating to me. The beginning of season,

862
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: I think he was one of the quick. He had

863
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: one of the quickest releases, getting the balls out like

864
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: two point three seconds. It feels longer sometimes like watching

865
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: Dak sometimes this year, it just feels like he's processing

866
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: too much information.

867
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: The only way I can like in this is do

868
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: you play golf?

869
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, I don't know about you, but if you

870
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: got on the golf course. I've had golf coaches, I've

871
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 4: I've had friends. You go out on the golf course

872
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: and everyone's giving you a piece of information. Yeah, And

873
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: so I find out typically when I go up, I

874
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: go up and get a RDY tee up. I'm going

875
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 4: through like a four to five point checklist, and it's

876
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: almost like you overthink it too much. And that's what

877
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: it feels like watching Dak play is I feel like

878
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: he's received so much information and he's getting so much

879
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: messaging that it's like we're watching and process it in

880
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: real time. That's the only way I can describe it.

881
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 4: Sometimes when I'm watching him play.

882
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: I had that happen to me on a bachelor party

883
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: last summer. I was hitting all my irons, just shanking right,

884
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: shanking right, and I had like three people giving me

885
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: different tips, and I would do that part and it

886
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: would fix it, and then somebody else would say something

887
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: and it would screw it up again. And I just

888
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just gonna be bad for the day.

889
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: And maybe Dak just doesn't want to be bad for

890
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: the day, like he just wants to boil it down,

891
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: but he knows that he's dealing with so many different things.

892
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: I do think it's a fear of making mistake. I mean,

893
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: you hear it. He seemed like somebody who probably pays

894
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: attention to the off season narrative more than maybe your

895
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: average player. It's hard not to when you're for the Cowboys,

896
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: and last offseason that the whole thing was about how

897
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: he led the league interceptions, and that's not supposed to

898
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: be what a franchise quarterback does. And he also probably

899
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: you know, knows the future is not entirely certain and

900
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: deals with the pressure of need to get to Cowboys

901
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: to the next step. So all of that is probably

902
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: in play. But again, the good thing is it's only

903
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: week six. It's gonna get tough, but it is, and

904
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: he got the bye week, you know, a little vacation,

905
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: little R and R resett a little bit. You're coming

906
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: off a win.

907
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: And Nick, you escaped this game without nandrees.

908
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: Yes, so that I think was the biggest thing for

909
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: the Cowboys because the guys that.

910
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 3: Have been on the mend.

911
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: You took so many hits to your secondary last week,

912
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 4: losing Layton Vanderesh I thought was going to be a

913
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 4: big deal.

914
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: I will say this, We've.

915
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: Talked a lot about offense and Dak tonight when they

916
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: lost Layton Van deersh last week.

917
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 3: Who is your quarterback on defense? He's calling the place.

918
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: I found myself deeply concerned about them this week, particularly

919
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: going up against Austin Eckler, But I think they did

920
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: a pretty good job to one and that's been an

921
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: area that sort of bit them.

922
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: Now. I still do have concerns about this.

923
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: Secondary Chargers were really able to get things going with

924
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: the Palmer and Keenan Allen, so I think Cowboys have

925
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 4: got to be a little bit more mindful of that

926
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: moving forward. We'll see if they even bring in some

927
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 4: additional help there at corner. I don't know what else

928
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: is out there at this point, but I was encouraged

929
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: at least by the play of the linebackers tonight in

930
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 4: the absence of Layton Vander Esh.

931
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't had a practice squad promotion played pretty

932
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: well in this game. My biggest concern for the Cowboys

933
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: outside of Dak which I think he's just going to

934
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: be up and down. That's who he is, and it's

935
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: never going to be somebody who I think is deserving

936
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: of a place beyond like ten in the QB Index,

937
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: but could get up there sometimes and we'll sit Linger

938
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: right beneath it. For most of it. Tyler Smith did

939
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: not have a game that and I got to go

940
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: back and watch it again on the actual tape and

941
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: not on the broadcast, but there were a few moments

942
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: where I'm like, what are you doing? This is a

943
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: young guy, and I thought he played really well as

944
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: a rookie for the most part, but you know, you

945
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: go into the BI week, you might need to spend

946
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: a little bit extra time looked at this tape and

947
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 2: fixing some things.

948
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, basically, which is interesting because Tyler Tyler, who's

949
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: in his second year, they've moved him from you.

950
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: Know, left guard.

951
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: He's been all over tackle.

952
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: He's been all over the place.

953
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

954
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 4: Uh, I don't know if I watched the tape as

955
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: as closely as you do on Tyler Smith. So I'm

956
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: gonna have to go back and look at it because

957
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: normally he's not the one we're talking about. You know,

958
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: we see some of these ridiculous holding penalties sometimes with

959
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: this offensive line and inopportune moments. But Tyler, I feel like,

960
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 4: you know, that was such a heavily scrutinized draft pick

961
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys when they took him the first round

962
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 4: two years ago, and not only did he start last year.

963
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: I mean I remember right out of the gate, the

964
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 4: Cowboys are getting ready to play the Bucks and Tyron

965
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: Smith goes down and You're like, wow, now we've got

966
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: to ask this rookie to fill in for our all

967
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: Pro guy t Smith. And he did a great job,

968
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 4: and then you got Terrence still back, and you didn't

969
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: need Tyler Tyron Smith over there at right tackle. You're

970
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: able to move Terrence back over there and move Tyron

971
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: back over the left side, and it was the starting

972
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: five that you've always been looking for. I got a

973
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: little nervous for the Cowboys when Zach Morton was slow

974
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: to get up this week.

975
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: You know, he got a little banged up last week.

976
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: It's like, come on, you don't need any more help

977
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: any more guys getting hurt on the offensive line. So

978
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: I thought the biggest thing for me taking away from

979
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: this game was one, like I said, seeing Brandon Cooks

980
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 4: get going, seeing Ceedee Lamb get his.

981
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: Confidence back, get utilized, but also more importantly getting out

982
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: of this one and not having the injuries.

983
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you talk about Zach Martin. That's the one

984
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: guy more than anybody that you can trust in the

985
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: offensive line, so you definitely need him to be on

986
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: the field. Yeah. Defensively, I don't feel too bad about them.

987
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: I think that you know, you talk about some of

988
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: the you know, personnel, the depth on the back end.

989
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: I still feel good about this group. Save for that

990
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: strange game against the Cardinals, when they couldn't stop a

991
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: nosebleed on the ground. They've been pretty solid throughout the season,

992
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: so I think that's still going to be their strength

993
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: as they figure out offensively. Going back to the Charges

994
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: real quick before we wrap this up. You talked about

995
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: you were worried if they were going to run the ball. Well,

996
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: team net rushing total fifty three yards, Austin Eckler averaging

997
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: a incendiary one point nine yards per pop. Really, they

998
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: have a lot to fix there, and I'm not sure

999
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: you know. I watched Colts Titans or sorry, Colts Jags

1000
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: this week and the whole second half of the broadcast

1001
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: was I don't know how you can perform when you're

1002
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: so one dimensional offense because you have no running game.

1003
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: It felt like the same thing for the Chargers, you know,

1004
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: that last drive. I looked at Herbert and You're sitting

1005
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: here thinking, how's the defense gonna blow this? I'm sitting

1006
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: there thinking, how is he gonna cover seventy yards? Like

1007
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: he has no time to throw? So I think I'm

1008
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: pretty concerned about them at two and three, you know,

1009
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: taking a quick look ahead at their schedule, you know,

1010
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: w well, the Cowboys going to the bi week. The

1011
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: Chargers actually just came out of the bye week. It

1012
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: does not get easier for them. They get the Kansas

1013
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: City Chiefs at Arrowhead next week, so I'm not gonna

1014
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: say chalk that one up as an l but that's

1015
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: gonna be real tough. Then you get Chicago, which may

1016
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: or may not have justin field at that time, and

1017
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: then you faced the Jets, who are gonna be an

1018
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: even tougher challenge defensively than the Cowboys were tonight, and

1019
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: the Lions after that. So it's gonna be a tough

1020
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: month ahead. Yeah, you better hope that they pull out

1021
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: one or two wins there or Brandon stalely watch is

1022
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: going to ramp up real quick. But I think that's

1023
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: going to do it for us. Jane, it's been a

1024
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: pleasure to do this recap with you. I thought we

1025
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: did a pretty good job.

1026
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: Well, we got big shoes to fill with the boys, but.

1027
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 4: You know, they're flying back from London and so honored

1028
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: that Greg and the guys asked me to fill in,

1029
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: and sorry for the Raspee boys just getting back from

1030
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 4: acl It was a great music weekend.

1031
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Oh what bands did you see?

1032
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: Oh?

1033
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy five Bob Moses Odesa, Maggie Rogers.

1034
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: It was a good one.

1035
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure you had a plan. Well, I

1036
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: think you're probably in line for some sleep now. It's

1037
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: pretty late here. We might as well wrap this thing

1038
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: up all right. Well, for Jane Slater, I'm Nick Shook.

1039
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: This has been your Monday Night recap. Thanks again to

1040
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: the boys as they travel back from London. They'll be

1041
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: back for the rest of the week. Until then, so long.