1 00:00:15,276 --> 00:00:23,156 Speaker 1: Pushkin. I was crazy. When I get to the United States, 2 00:00:23,196 --> 00:00:27,436 Speaker 1: I didn't have like anything really, you know, just inside 3 00:00:27,436 --> 00:00:29,476 Speaker 1: of me. It was something that was moving my heart, 4 00:00:29,596 --> 00:00:32,636 Speaker 1: my soul. Every day. I have to do this. There 5 00:00:32,716 --> 00:00:35,476 Speaker 1: is no other way. There's no mistakes here. You have 6 00:00:35,596 --> 00:00:40,196 Speaker 1: to do this or you die. That's Colombian singer Juans 7 00:00:40,316 --> 00:00:42,756 Speaker 1: and to me, he's one of the best examples of 8 00:00:42,796 --> 00:00:46,036 Speaker 1: an artist whose success was hard one. He didn't grow 9 00:00:46,076 --> 00:00:49,116 Speaker 1: up with connections in the business. It was his incredible 10 00:00:49,156 --> 00:00:51,236 Speaker 1: work ethic that got him where he is now, the 11 00:00:51,276 --> 00:00:54,316 Speaker 1: winner of two Grammys and more than twenty Latin Grammys. 12 00:00:54,796 --> 00:00:57,596 Speaker 1: You might have heard his most popular song La Camisa 13 00:00:57,676 --> 00:01:01,556 Speaker 1: Negra or one of his many hit albums like Undia Normal. 14 00:01:02,116 --> 00:01:05,956 Speaker 1: His commitment to music started young. My first community I 15 00:01:05,956 --> 00:01:08,116 Speaker 1: have a a small video and I am playing guitar 16 00:01:08,196 --> 00:01:12,276 Speaker 1: with my brother is probably I don't know, around seven 17 00:01:12,356 --> 00:01:14,996 Speaker 1: years old something like that. Since I was a kid, 18 00:01:15,636 --> 00:01:19,956 Speaker 1: I always saw my brothers, all brothers, playing guitar and 19 00:01:20,036 --> 00:01:24,156 Speaker 1: singing music from South America. So since I have memory, 20 00:01:24,396 --> 00:01:27,436 Speaker 1: I just have my guitar, you know, all the pictures 21 00:01:27,436 --> 00:01:30,756 Speaker 1: and videos from my family. Always the guitar bigger than me. 22 00:01:31,396 --> 00:01:34,716 Speaker 1: But I was always so inspired by by the sound 23 00:01:34,756 --> 00:01:38,156 Speaker 1: of the guitar and the singing and all these music 24 00:01:38,596 --> 00:01:43,916 Speaker 1: from all South America. This is Backstage Pass and I'm 25 00:01:44,036 --> 00:01:47,556 Speaker 1: Eric Betro. I'm a vocal coach to some pretty successful singers. 26 00:01:47,916 --> 00:01:50,636 Speaker 1: On this show, I talked to my students about their lives, 27 00:01:50,716 --> 00:01:54,196 Speaker 1: their biggest insecurities, and how they keep building their careers. 28 00:01:54,596 --> 00:01:57,676 Speaker 1: People think the great singers only rely on their natural talents, 29 00:01:57,876 --> 00:02:00,836 Speaker 1: but finding your voice takes a lot of work. Together, 30 00:02:00,956 --> 00:02:07,276 Speaker 1: will explore what it really takes to make it. Dare Now, 31 00:02:07,356 --> 00:02:10,236 Speaker 1: did your parents play music too or just your brothers? 32 00:02:10,756 --> 00:02:14,476 Speaker 1: Just my brothers. But my father used to sing tango 33 00:02:14,596 --> 00:02:17,196 Speaker 1: music when he was at home, and he was not 34 00:02:17,316 --> 00:02:19,876 Speaker 1: like a professional singer, but he used to do it 35 00:02:19,916 --> 00:02:23,036 Speaker 1: really well. And then my old brother started to sing 36 00:02:23,156 --> 00:02:26,236 Speaker 1: also tango music. So I just became a fan of 37 00:02:26,636 --> 00:02:31,196 Speaker 1: this kind of music. And then when I became fifteen 38 00:02:31,316 --> 00:02:36,276 Speaker 1: years old, I get crazy with rock music, like totally crazy, Eric. 39 00:02:36,436 --> 00:02:39,636 Speaker 1: So for me, it was like a game changer because 40 00:02:39,676 --> 00:02:42,876 Speaker 1: when I started to listen to rock music, I completely 41 00:02:42,916 --> 00:02:47,036 Speaker 1: forgot everything else. I just wanted to listen to Metallic 42 00:02:47,156 --> 00:02:50,956 Speaker 1: as Layer, Zeppa led Zeppelin, Black South at you know, 43 00:02:51,116 --> 00:02:53,916 Speaker 1: vine Hell and all these bands, and I get so 44 00:02:54,076 --> 00:02:59,316 Speaker 1: crazy about that. That was the same time that MTV start, 45 00:03:00,116 --> 00:03:04,276 Speaker 1: so I used to watch MTV like crazy, and I remember, 46 00:03:04,716 --> 00:03:07,916 Speaker 1: you know, Metallica, of course, when they released the first 47 00:03:07,996 --> 00:03:22,516 Speaker 1: video on MTV, O my bread, I would say, Metallica, 48 00:03:22,676 --> 00:03:25,516 Speaker 1: it's like my ferry band of all time. And also 49 00:03:25,716 --> 00:03:27,916 Speaker 1: a lot of rock music from South America as well. 50 00:03:28,276 --> 00:03:31,516 Speaker 1: Right right the middle of the eighties, Spanish rock music 51 00:03:31,796 --> 00:03:34,956 Speaker 1: start to become like a very important for us. So 52 00:03:35,196 --> 00:03:41,276 Speaker 1: bands like Sola Stadio and Charlie Asia, Fito Pies San, 53 00:03:41,996 --> 00:03:45,156 Speaker 1: all of those start to be part of our culture 54 00:03:45,156 --> 00:03:49,356 Speaker 1: and I was so inspired by them. I start to 55 00:03:49,516 --> 00:03:51,836 Speaker 1: learn how to play the electric guitar, I start to 56 00:03:51,956 --> 00:03:54,076 Speaker 1: learn how to play a little bit of drums, and 57 00:03:54,196 --> 00:03:57,076 Speaker 1: then I became part of this metal band. It was 58 00:03:57,236 --> 00:04:00,116 Speaker 1: very positive for me because at that time, managing was 59 00:04:00,156 --> 00:04:04,956 Speaker 1: a very complicated time, you know, for the city. Columbia's 60 00:04:05,036 --> 00:04:08,916 Speaker 1: drug bosses struck back today, bombing and burning buildings and 61 00:04:09,116 --> 00:04:12,396 Speaker 1: homes and Madigan a stronghold at the drug cartel where 62 00:04:12,436 --> 00:04:16,556 Speaker 1: troops this week carried out dozens of rains. We were 63 00:04:16,796 --> 00:04:20,396 Speaker 1: living very difficult moments that I found through music, and 64 00:04:20,716 --> 00:04:23,876 Speaker 1: especially through rock music, a way to escape and just 65 00:04:24,036 --> 00:04:28,316 Speaker 1: to feel saved somehow. Wow. And actually we start to 66 00:04:28,396 --> 00:04:31,636 Speaker 1: play a lot in Colombia, like almost every weekend. And 67 00:04:31,996 --> 00:04:36,516 Speaker 1: I was finishing my eleventh grade, going to the university, 68 00:04:37,156 --> 00:04:39,196 Speaker 1: and I remember that I was working a lot with 69 00:04:39,516 --> 00:04:41,916 Speaker 1: this band, and I couldn't believe when they were paying 70 00:04:42,036 --> 00:04:45,236 Speaker 1: us to perform. I was amazing, you know, the feeling 71 00:04:45,596 --> 00:04:49,476 Speaker 1: like Okay, now I can just live doing this. This 72 00:04:49,636 --> 00:04:54,436 Speaker 1: is fantastic. Wow. Yeah, that must have been like that's 73 00:04:54,476 --> 00:04:57,076 Speaker 1: about dream right, come true? Do what you love. And 74 00:04:57,196 --> 00:05:01,476 Speaker 1: it was crazy, Eric, because we record, we I mean 75 00:05:01,996 --> 00:05:04,276 Speaker 1: we know knowing how to do anything. We were just 76 00:05:04,436 --> 00:05:08,996 Speaker 1: like little kids, imenergine. We didn't have like a great 77 00:05:09,196 --> 00:05:12,676 Speaker 1: gear to play, like a great amplifier, guitar techniques or anything. 78 00:05:12,836 --> 00:05:17,996 Speaker 1: We were just dreaming with this idea of being rockstars 79 00:05:18,036 --> 00:05:21,996 Speaker 1: and musicians. Now what'd your parents think? Where they like, 80 00:05:22,196 --> 00:05:25,276 Speaker 1: wait a minute, No, they were so so worried about me. 81 00:05:26,196 --> 00:05:29,076 Speaker 1: Oh they were. They were worried, but because he I mean, 82 00:05:29,156 --> 00:05:31,316 Speaker 1: they were listening to this music and they were thought 83 00:05:31,356 --> 00:05:33,916 Speaker 1: that there was like you know, satanic music or I 84 00:05:34,036 --> 00:05:36,116 Speaker 1: used to I try to have my long hair at 85 00:05:36,196 --> 00:05:38,596 Speaker 1: that time. But I was fighting with my parents, fighting 86 00:05:38,876 --> 00:05:42,236 Speaker 1: at school. It was so complicated for me to let 87 00:05:42,316 --> 00:05:45,276 Speaker 1: them know that I was really really serious about this, 88 00:05:45,476 --> 00:05:47,636 Speaker 1: you know that I really wanted to be a musician 89 00:05:47,756 --> 00:05:51,436 Speaker 1: and just to leave making music. They understood now later 90 00:05:51,516 --> 00:05:53,396 Speaker 1: on they said, okay, this this is I mean, this 91 00:05:53,516 --> 00:05:56,156 Speaker 1: guy's taking this serials list, so we have to support him. 92 00:05:56,276 --> 00:06:00,556 Speaker 1: And then that was it. I was obsessed, obsessed, eric 93 00:06:01,036 --> 00:06:04,996 Speaker 1: so obsessed that I say to my mother and my family, Okay, 94 00:06:05,036 --> 00:06:06,756 Speaker 1: I have to go to the United States. I cannot 95 00:06:06,796 --> 00:06:09,476 Speaker 1: stay here. I have to go. But what you're gonna 96 00:06:09,476 --> 00:06:10,916 Speaker 1: do that you do have no, no, no, I have 97 00:06:11,036 --> 00:06:12,916 Speaker 1: to go. I have to go. I have a couple 98 00:06:12,956 --> 00:06:14,916 Speaker 1: of friends that can help me, and I'm gonna go. 99 00:06:15,036 --> 00:06:17,396 Speaker 1: And I was like a jumping from from the airplane, 100 00:06:17,836 --> 00:06:20,476 Speaker 1: you know, in no parachutes. I was crazy. When I 101 00:06:20,756 --> 00:06:23,396 Speaker 1: get to United States, I didn't have like anything really 102 00:06:23,836 --> 00:06:26,716 Speaker 1: just inside of me. It was something that was moving 103 00:06:26,796 --> 00:06:29,756 Speaker 1: my heart, my soul every day. I have to do this. 104 00:06:30,036 --> 00:06:32,876 Speaker 1: There's no other way, there's no mistakes here. You have 105 00:06:32,996 --> 00:06:36,716 Speaker 1: to do this or you die. Wow, you really took 106 00:06:36,716 --> 00:06:39,796 Speaker 1: a leap of faith, Like that's a true leap of faith. 107 00:06:40,116 --> 00:06:43,876 Speaker 1: Faith was really important in this process eric Apart from 108 00:06:43,996 --> 00:06:47,716 Speaker 1: music and everything else, faith something that my mother teached 109 00:06:47,756 --> 00:06:52,716 Speaker 1: me through Christian religion. I don't follow any religion. I 110 00:06:53,116 --> 00:06:55,076 Speaker 1: have my own concept of God, but at that moment 111 00:06:55,156 --> 00:07:00,036 Speaker 1: when I was in LA, faith became a super weapon 112 00:07:00,116 --> 00:07:03,716 Speaker 1: for me to stay alive every day. I moved to 113 00:07:03,916 --> 00:07:06,716 Speaker 1: LA in ninety six, and that was probably the worst 114 00:07:06,796 --> 00:07:09,836 Speaker 1: time for me, very difficult time because I was by myself, 115 00:07:10,796 --> 00:07:13,436 Speaker 1: not too many friends. I had no morning, no label, 116 00:07:13,796 --> 00:07:16,756 Speaker 1: no deal, nothing. I was just like trying to survive 117 00:07:16,876 --> 00:07:20,156 Speaker 1: and make my dream come true. I was renting some 118 00:07:20,396 --> 00:07:23,036 Speaker 1: motels and then finally I get contact with a friend 119 00:07:23,076 --> 00:07:25,636 Speaker 1: who invited me to his house for a couple of weeks, 120 00:07:25,676 --> 00:07:28,556 Speaker 1: and then I needed to move because the manager done 121 00:07:28,596 --> 00:07:31,076 Speaker 1: and allow me to stay there. How old were you 122 00:07:31,156 --> 00:07:35,436 Speaker 1: at that time, twenty six maybe twenty seven, and I 123 00:07:35,596 --> 00:07:39,516 Speaker 1: was walking on the streets thinking, Wow, okay, I am 124 00:07:39,756 --> 00:07:43,396 Speaker 1: one among a million of musicians trying to make it here, 125 00:07:43,956 --> 00:07:45,876 Speaker 1: so this is not going to be easy for me, 126 00:07:46,276 --> 00:07:48,836 Speaker 1: but I need to try it. I was like, so 127 00:07:49,396 --> 00:07:53,276 Speaker 1: decided to take that road. When you were starting out, 128 00:07:53,556 --> 00:07:56,436 Speaker 1: was there any major artists that you met who gave 129 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:59,116 Speaker 1: you some great advice. The first time I was in LA, 130 00:07:59,356 --> 00:08:02,556 Speaker 1: I met Paul Stanley from Kiss. He didn't know who 131 00:08:02,636 --> 00:08:04,676 Speaker 1: I was, but I was in the rehearsal place and 132 00:08:04,756 --> 00:08:06,916 Speaker 1: he was there and I said to him, Hey, I 133 00:08:06,996 --> 00:08:09,436 Speaker 1: am a musician too. I'm here in LA to make 134 00:08:09,676 --> 00:08:11,916 Speaker 1: my dream come true. And he was like, man, you 135 00:08:11,996 --> 00:08:14,156 Speaker 1: have to be very discipline and work hard and believing 136 00:08:14,236 --> 00:08:17,996 Speaker 1: yourself and all these things. And they, okay, this is 137 00:08:18,076 --> 00:08:20,436 Speaker 1: very important. Yeah, that was very important. Yeah, those things 138 00:08:20,516 --> 00:08:23,116 Speaker 1: are so important. I always tell the people i'm working with, 139 00:08:23,636 --> 00:08:27,076 Speaker 1: you know, if you're talking to someone younger, really encourage 140 00:08:27,116 --> 00:08:29,716 Speaker 1: them to work hard, because it's not just luck. It 141 00:08:29,956 --> 00:08:32,036 Speaker 1: takes a lot of work. Yeah, and more. In these days, 142 00:08:32,156 --> 00:08:34,476 Speaker 1: everything is so fast, you know. So you know, I 143 00:08:34,596 --> 00:08:39,196 Speaker 1: have three kids teenagers, so they think everything is right now. 144 00:08:39,396 --> 00:08:41,436 Speaker 1: You know, it needs to be now, and everything take time, 145 00:08:41,956 --> 00:08:45,876 Speaker 1: and you have to work and get prepared to next level, 146 00:08:45,996 --> 00:08:47,876 Speaker 1: you know. But I think it's just part of the 147 00:08:47,996 --> 00:08:52,436 Speaker 1: process of growing. The work in preparation really paid off. 148 00:08:52,476 --> 00:08:55,236 Speaker 1: For one as and two thousand, one of his dreams 149 00:08:55,316 --> 00:08:57,756 Speaker 1: did come true. He made it to the radio as 150 00:08:57,796 --> 00:09:02,956 Speaker 1: a solo artist. Was the first single released by me 151 00:09:03,156 --> 00:09:06,276 Speaker 1: as a solo artist and Scholfie Hativien, And it was 152 00:09:06,396 --> 00:09:11,516 Speaker 1: very particular time because I wrote this song about Colombia. 153 00:09:11,796 --> 00:09:14,836 Speaker 1: We're having having a big problem in Colombia with drugs 154 00:09:14,916 --> 00:09:19,716 Speaker 1: and narcos and mafia's and guerrillas, and because of all that, 155 00:09:20,036 --> 00:09:23,516 Speaker 1: there was there was a landmine situation in Colombia, a 156 00:09:23,636 --> 00:09:27,036 Speaker 1: very serious Linelan situation. So I wrote a song about that. 157 00:09:27,236 --> 00:09:29,436 Speaker 1: But when I went to the radio with that song, 158 00:09:30,156 --> 00:09:34,076 Speaker 1: the lyrics were not too nice, you know, it was 159 00:09:34,316 --> 00:09:51,836 Speaker 1: it was not it was like serious stuff. I record 160 00:09:51,996 --> 00:09:55,796 Speaker 1: my first solo album in La. Actually, what a beautiful 161 00:09:55,876 --> 00:09:59,236 Speaker 1: moment because after all those years that I was having 162 00:09:59,436 --> 00:10:04,556 Speaker 1: difficulties in La, finally Universal Music through Circle Music signed 163 00:10:04,636 --> 00:10:07,196 Speaker 1: me as an artist. So I was like in a dream, 164 00:10:07,276 --> 00:10:11,276 Speaker 1: you know, leaving a dream in La quoting my first album. Man, 165 00:10:11,436 --> 00:10:14,716 Speaker 1: I was so incredible moment for me. How long had 166 00:10:14,756 --> 00:10:18,276 Speaker 1: you been in La before that happened? Almost three years? Wow. 167 00:10:18,436 --> 00:10:20,876 Speaker 1: That's good for people to hear because I think that 168 00:10:22,756 --> 00:10:25,876 Speaker 1: quite often people forget, like sometimes it takes a while, 169 00:10:26,036 --> 00:10:29,156 Speaker 1: but it's worth while hanging in and working at it 170 00:10:29,196 --> 00:10:33,236 Speaker 1: because eventually it can happen. You can't give up too quickly. Yeah, man, 171 00:10:33,956 --> 00:10:36,436 Speaker 1: And it's a good thing he didn't, because his first 172 00:10:36,476 --> 00:10:39,876 Speaker 1: solo album won the Best Rock category at the Latin Grammys. 173 00:10:40,316 --> 00:10:43,396 Speaker 1: Then just a few years later one has released another 174 00:10:43,556 --> 00:10:59,876 Speaker 1: huge hit like that song is very inspired by Glasgow music, 175 00:11:00,356 --> 00:11:03,116 Speaker 1: which is a kind of music that is very popular 176 00:11:03,236 --> 00:11:07,636 Speaker 1: in my area from the countryside. Back in the sixties. 177 00:11:07,796 --> 00:11:11,636 Speaker 1: It was like a revolutionary music with bad words and 178 00:11:11,876 --> 00:11:15,396 Speaker 1: very funny thing, very smart. I grew up listening to 179 00:11:15,516 --> 00:11:18,076 Speaker 1: all this kind of music in my house and it 180 00:11:18,316 --> 00:11:20,956 Speaker 1: was inspired in that music, which is like a mix 181 00:11:21,516 --> 00:11:26,996 Speaker 1: between reggae and funk. It's a break hard song means 182 00:11:27,076 --> 00:11:31,236 Speaker 1: the black shirt, So when somebody passed away, you were 183 00:11:31,276 --> 00:11:34,876 Speaker 1: in black right, So I was kind of an association 184 00:11:34,956 --> 00:11:38,036 Speaker 1: of that when you are when you feel so very 185 00:11:38,076 --> 00:11:40,316 Speaker 1: hard because you'll break up with your capital and then 186 00:11:40,396 --> 00:11:45,916 Speaker 1: you feel so sad, So you were a black shirt, right. Oh, 187 00:11:45,956 --> 00:11:49,356 Speaker 1: I got it now, totally makes sense, yeah man. You know, 188 00:11:49,396 --> 00:11:52,476 Speaker 1: it's very local, like the sound and everything is very 189 00:11:52,556 --> 00:11:57,396 Speaker 1: local and became universal because I can go around the 190 00:11:57,476 --> 00:11:59,916 Speaker 1: world saying that song and I couldn't believe it when 191 00:11:59,916 --> 00:12:03,156 Speaker 1: I was in German, in Japan, everywhere, and what is 192 00:12:03,276 --> 00:12:08,756 Speaker 1: happening here. Did you keep visualizing yourself like as successful. 193 00:12:08,876 --> 00:12:11,316 Speaker 1: Did you go, all right, I know I can do this. 194 00:12:11,796 --> 00:12:15,756 Speaker 1: I never think I am successful. You know, sometimes I think, okay, 195 00:12:15,956 --> 00:12:18,796 Speaker 1: I am thankful with life in music because I mean 196 00:12:18,916 --> 00:12:22,796 Speaker 1: never in my biggest dream, I never realized that I 197 00:12:22,916 --> 00:12:24,516 Speaker 1: was going to be like this. So I feel proud 198 00:12:24,556 --> 00:12:28,876 Speaker 1: of that. I remember especially a moment probably wasn't two 199 00:12:28,916 --> 00:12:32,836 Speaker 1: thousand and three and four. I was in Madrid doing 200 00:12:32,916 --> 00:12:36,196 Speaker 1: promotion and shows and I listened you know, my song 201 00:12:36,276 --> 00:12:38,516 Speaker 1: on the radio in Madrid, and then the next day 202 00:12:38,596 --> 00:12:41,196 Speaker 1: in Buenos Aires, and then two days later in Colombia, 203 00:12:41,196 --> 00:12:43,596 Speaker 1: and then three days later in Mexico, and I said, 204 00:12:43,636 --> 00:12:46,836 Speaker 1: I mean, this is happening. Yeah. I've heard people say 205 00:12:46,956 --> 00:12:51,236 Speaker 1: that when people sing along know the words to their song, 206 00:12:51,476 --> 00:12:55,516 Speaker 1: that's when they feel like, ah, I've really accomplished something exactly. 207 00:12:55,636 --> 00:12:59,636 Speaker 1: And the feeling of being on stage, seeing the audience 208 00:12:59,716 --> 00:13:03,796 Speaker 1: singing the songs, and when people on the streets go 209 00:13:03,996 --> 00:13:06,156 Speaker 1: to you and say, hey, you have no idea how 210 00:13:06,236 --> 00:13:09,036 Speaker 1: your song helped me when I was in these difficulties, 211 00:13:09,476 --> 00:13:12,676 Speaker 1: and I say, really, well, I get married with your song, 212 00:13:13,276 --> 00:13:18,356 Speaker 1: will get married with your stories? Really? Those stories just 213 00:13:18,956 --> 00:13:23,156 Speaker 1: fool my soul of happiness, and I feel so you know, 214 00:13:23,436 --> 00:13:27,556 Speaker 1: thanksful with the music because of that, don't go anywhere 215 00:13:27,876 --> 00:13:31,356 Speaker 1: when backstage passed returns will here Juannas play his own 216 00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:43,316 Speaker 1: rendition of an American classic, and we're back with juan As. 217 00:13:43,876 --> 00:13:46,356 Speaker 1: Now you might be wondering how he started taking singing 218 00:13:46,436 --> 00:13:49,316 Speaker 1: lessons with me. A few years ago, Juana saw one 219 00:13:49,356 --> 00:13:52,956 Speaker 1: of my students, at Rosalia, performing at a theater in Madrid. 220 00:13:53,596 --> 00:13:56,076 Speaker 1: I remember that day when I was seeing her performing, 221 00:13:56,276 --> 00:13:58,996 Speaker 1: I was like almost dying there in my seat. I 222 00:13:59,076 --> 00:14:01,716 Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't believe what I was watching, what 223 00:14:01,876 --> 00:14:04,396 Speaker 1: I was seeing, what I was hearing. I mean, why 224 00:14:04,556 --> 00:14:08,076 Speaker 1: Rosalia need to take singing lessons? You know, she sings, 225 00:14:08,196 --> 00:14:21,276 Speaker 1: She sings so perfec it. I never had the opportunity 226 00:14:21,356 --> 00:14:26,716 Speaker 1: to really to study music, and Rosalie I was starting 227 00:14:26,756 --> 00:14:29,476 Speaker 1: with you, so I said, well, can you please connect 228 00:14:29,516 --> 00:14:33,036 Speaker 1: me with Eric. That concept just inspired me so much 229 00:14:33,076 --> 00:14:35,596 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to get better and better and better. 230 00:14:35,876 --> 00:14:38,436 Speaker 1: And I start to work with you now, like in 231 00:14:38,516 --> 00:14:40,956 Speaker 1: these days when I record here in my studio, when 232 00:14:40,956 --> 00:14:44,836 Speaker 1: I rehearse with my band, it's like another world. I 233 00:14:44,916 --> 00:14:49,396 Speaker 1: feel more secure about my voice and tuning in everything. 234 00:14:49,476 --> 00:14:52,556 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like relaxed and just enjoying the 235 00:14:52,636 --> 00:14:55,316 Speaker 1: processes of singing, which is what I love since I 236 00:14:55,436 --> 00:14:57,836 Speaker 1: was a kid. Oh, I'm so happy to hear that. 237 00:14:57,996 --> 00:15:01,036 Speaker 1: Thank you. I want to keep growing as a musician, 238 00:15:01,636 --> 00:15:04,236 Speaker 1: so I want to learn to play guitar better. I 239 00:15:04,316 --> 00:15:07,196 Speaker 1: want to learn about harmony. I want to learn to 240 00:15:07,316 --> 00:15:10,396 Speaker 1: sing better. I want to try to make better songs. 241 00:15:10,836 --> 00:15:13,636 Speaker 1: So I keep, you know, my energy and my love 242 00:15:14,196 --> 00:15:18,316 Speaker 1: from music alive a lot. Well that's really admirable because 243 00:15:18,356 --> 00:15:20,196 Speaker 1: a lot of people who would have had as much 244 00:15:20,276 --> 00:15:25,076 Speaker 1: success as you have would probably not continue to try 245 00:15:25,156 --> 00:15:27,596 Speaker 1: to work as hard to improve, you know. They feel 246 00:15:27,676 --> 00:15:30,356 Speaker 1: good about where they were and go, Okay, I've made it, 247 00:15:30,796 --> 00:15:33,636 Speaker 1: you know. So I find that very admirable. Yeah, thank 248 00:15:33,676 --> 00:15:38,516 Speaker 1: you so much. I leave music so intense, to be honest, 249 00:15:38,916 --> 00:15:42,716 Speaker 1: sometimes I suffer, but most of the time I enjoy it. 250 00:15:43,356 --> 00:15:45,316 Speaker 1: What do you mean you suffer? You have to be 251 00:15:45,516 --> 00:15:47,676 Speaker 1: ready for the next song, you have to write something 252 00:15:47,756 --> 00:15:51,196 Speaker 1: different that you didn't do before. So that's kind of 253 00:15:51,276 --> 00:15:54,316 Speaker 1: a pressure, you know, for me, But I really enjoy 254 00:15:54,396 --> 00:15:56,716 Speaker 1: it because it's like something that I really want to 255 00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:58,996 Speaker 1: make happen. Every day when I come to the studio, 256 00:15:59,076 --> 00:16:00,956 Speaker 1: I have probably no ideas, and I come and I 257 00:16:00,996 --> 00:16:04,396 Speaker 1: start to improvise, I start to search for something, and 258 00:16:04,516 --> 00:16:07,876 Speaker 1: then five hours later I have a song. And I 259 00:16:08,116 --> 00:16:11,436 Speaker 1: really love that feeling, you know, it's so cool. And 260 00:16:11,556 --> 00:16:13,836 Speaker 1: then when I go to the studio to record a song, 261 00:16:13,956 --> 00:16:15,916 Speaker 1: and then when I play with my band, it's like, 262 00:16:16,196 --> 00:16:18,396 Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy. I mean six months ago 263 00:16:18,516 --> 00:16:22,236 Speaker 1: it was nothing. Now I have a song and people 264 00:16:22,236 --> 00:16:24,596 Speaker 1: are singing that song with me, So that's great. Wow, 265 00:16:24,956 --> 00:16:28,196 Speaker 1: that must be an amazing feeling. Yeah. Man, I'm so 266 00:16:28,316 --> 00:16:31,036 Speaker 1: glad you said that though about the pressure, because I 267 00:16:31,196 --> 00:16:34,196 Speaker 1: think that fans don't realize that there is that pressure. 268 00:16:34,236 --> 00:16:36,396 Speaker 1: I think they think, oh, it's easy, he sits down, 269 00:16:36,476 --> 00:16:38,676 Speaker 1: he writes a song, he records it, puts it out. 270 00:16:38,836 --> 00:16:42,756 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that most artists do get 271 00:16:42,876 --> 00:16:47,156 Speaker 1: a bit anxious or they feel a certain pressure, like 272 00:16:47,356 --> 00:16:49,116 Speaker 1: I have to do this again, I have to do 273 00:16:49,236 --> 00:16:52,116 Speaker 1: it even better, or I have to keep evolving, And 274 00:16:52,276 --> 00:16:55,036 Speaker 1: there is a lot of pressure with that. Yeah, definitely. Eric, Actually, 275 00:16:55,436 --> 00:16:57,676 Speaker 1: ten years ago, I never told you this before, but 276 00:16:58,116 --> 00:17:01,076 Speaker 1: ten years ago I was in the middle of a 277 00:17:01,156 --> 00:17:04,436 Speaker 1: tour and I was so tired, you know, because I 278 00:17:04,916 --> 00:17:09,276 Speaker 1: was ten years on the road, like like literally like 279 00:17:09,396 --> 00:17:13,996 Speaker 1: ten years on the road. I missed most of my kids, 280 00:17:14,116 --> 00:17:17,556 Speaker 1: you know, growing up, and I was always traveling and 281 00:17:17,676 --> 00:17:20,956 Speaker 1: working with a lot of success, but inside of me, 282 00:17:21,116 --> 00:17:25,236 Speaker 1: I was kind of try. I was so tired, and 283 00:17:25,396 --> 00:17:28,076 Speaker 1: it was very hard for me to realize that I 284 00:17:28,196 --> 00:17:30,196 Speaker 1: needed to stop for a moment, that I needed to 285 00:17:30,476 --> 00:17:34,156 Speaker 1: take a break and just put everything together again because 286 00:17:34,196 --> 00:17:37,196 Speaker 1: I was on stage singing and doing shows and I 287 00:17:37,356 --> 00:17:41,516 Speaker 1: was not enjoying the process, and so that was kind 288 00:17:41,556 --> 00:17:43,916 Speaker 1: of harbor. It wasn't also like a big lesson for me, 289 00:17:44,076 --> 00:17:47,716 Speaker 1: just to understand that there is always a balance in life. Right, 290 00:17:47,956 --> 00:17:50,236 Speaker 1: so now finding the balance, Like how do you find 291 00:17:50,276 --> 00:17:53,716 Speaker 1: the balance? Now? Do you schedule time off so that 292 00:17:53,876 --> 00:17:57,156 Speaker 1: you do have some time to just recharge? Yeah? Yes, 293 00:17:57,476 --> 00:18:00,556 Speaker 1: because now I have a little bit more of control 294 00:18:00,596 --> 00:18:03,316 Speaker 1: of my life and my career. And now yes, I 295 00:18:03,396 --> 00:18:06,356 Speaker 1: can say, well, after twenty years and all the success, 296 00:18:06,516 --> 00:18:09,676 Speaker 1: thank god, I can have a little big, you know, 297 00:18:09,836 --> 00:18:13,636 Speaker 1: kind of approach to my career. And I am not 298 00:18:13,876 --> 00:18:16,316 Speaker 1: looking for a number one heat on the radio or 299 00:18:16,396 --> 00:18:18,916 Speaker 1: things like that. I'm just trying to keep finding my 300 00:18:19,036 --> 00:18:24,236 Speaker 1: own style my own way to create music, and that's 301 00:18:24,476 --> 00:18:27,316 Speaker 1: something that I really really love and I feel happy 302 00:18:27,436 --> 00:18:31,476 Speaker 1: that now I can do that with no stress from outside. 303 00:18:31,716 --> 00:18:35,196 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just more relaxed now, and clearly 304 00:18:35,356 --> 00:18:38,076 Speaker 1: it's an approach that's working for him. One has just 305 00:18:38,276 --> 00:18:41,756 Speaker 1: won his twenty fourth Grammy for his most recent album, 306 00:18:42,116 --> 00:18:45,556 Speaker 1: which was named Best Pop Rock Album. I play guitar 307 00:18:45,676 --> 00:18:48,996 Speaker 1: like almost all day, Eric, like, I have a guitar here, 308 00:18:49,076 --> 00:18:50,676 Speaker 1: I have a guitar in the living room. I have 309 00:18:50,756 --> 00:18:54,516 Speaker 1: a guitar close to my bed. So I am all 310 00:18:54,556 --> 00:18:59,356 Speaker 1: the time thinking, practicing, watching some lessons on YouTube or 311 00:18:59,556 --> 00:19:02,996 Speaker 1: special lessons that I pay for that when I find something, 312 00:19:03,116 --> 00:19:05,476 Speaker 1: Oh this is cool, this progression is really nice. I 313 00:19:05,596 --> 00:19:08,796 Speaker 1: like the chords combination. So I come to the studio, 314 00:19:09,716 --> 00:19:13,996 Speaker 1: record the guitar, and then I start to improvise melodies, 315 00:19:14,116 --> 00:19:16,876 Speaker 1: like a lot of ideas, and then I listened to 316 00:19:17,036 --> 00:19:19,556 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and then I choose the pieces that 317 00:19:19,636 --> 00:19:22,636 Speaker 1: I really like and I make like a main track 318 00:19:22,956 --> 00:19:25,596 Speaker 1: of vocals with that, and then from that part I 319 00:19:25,636 --> 00:19:28,436 Speaker 1: start to build a song. Oh so you do the 320 00:19:28,596 --> 00:19:31,516 Speaker 1: music first and then the lyrics. Yeah, Like the melody 321 00:19:31,636 --> 00:19:35,796 Speaker 1: comes first. Yeah, melody most of the times can first, 322 00:19:36,476 --> 00:19:39,676 Speaker 1: and I am always writing, so when I'm not in 323 00:19:39,716 --> 00:19:43,476 Speaker 1: the studio, I'm probably thinking in ideas to write a song, 324 00:19:43,676 --> 00:19:46,276 Speaker 1: a story to tell, or something from the past that 325 00:19:46,396 --> 00:19:50,116 Speaker 1: I feel any feeling basically, and then I try to 326 00:19:50,236 --> 00:19:54,356 Speaker 1: connect those melodies that I wrote before with the lyrics 327 00:19:54,596 --> 00:19:56,956 Speaker 1: I have in the works. For me, most of the 328 00:19:56,996 --> 00:19:59,836 Speaker 1: time like that. So let me ask you this, because 329 00:19:59,956 --> 00:20:03,836 Speaker 1: you haven't you don't you sing in Spanish. I mean, 330 00:20:03,916 --> 00:20:06,236 Speaker 1: you did some English and the covers, but you sing 331 00:20:06,316 --> 00:20:08,436 Speaker 1: in Spanish. You haven't done the crossover. Is there a 332 00:20:08,596 --> 00:20:11,916 Speaker 1: reason for that? Eric? Yeah, at the beginning, you know, 333 00:20:12,236 --> 00:20:14,756 Speaker 1: I wanted to sing in English, but then when I 334 00:20:14,876 --> 00:20:18,116 Speaker 1: try a couple of times, I found out so complicated 335 00:20:18,316 --> 00:20:22,516 Speaker 1: for me, so hard to do it, and I realized 336 00:20:22,516 --> 00:20:24,756 Speaker 1: that I preferred just to sing in Spanish because it's 337 00:20:24,796 --> 00:20:27,356 Speaker 1: my language. When I sing in Spanish, I can close 338 00:20:27,436 --> 00:20:30,476 Speaker 1: my eyes and feel. When I sing in English, I 339 00:20:30,676 --> 00:20:33,356 Speaker 1: really need to think in the pronunciation. When I was 340 00:20:33,436 --> 00:20:36,516 Speaker 1: in Colombia, when I was in Managine, I never studied English, 341 00:20:36,596 --> 00:20:40,356 Speaker 1: like for real, you know, I never So I came 342 00:20:40,396 --> 00:20:43,356 Speaker 1: to the United States and I didn't speak a word. 343 00:20:43,436 --> 00:20:46,676 Speaker 1: I was totally lost Wow, when you came here, you 344 00:20:46,716 --> 00:20:50,076 Speaker 1: didn't speak any English, no, no, no, nothing nothing. I 345 00:20:50,276 --> 00:20:53,596 Speaker 1: was learning with close caption and watching TV, going to 346 00:20:53,716 --> 00:20:57,876 Speaker 1: the bookstores to read English Spanish books, listening to the 347 00:20:58,076 --> 00:21:02,436 Speaker 1: Beatles and music in general. Reading the lyrics. Well, that 348 00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:05,396 Speaker 1: was crazy. At some point, I just needed to learn 349 00:21:05,636 --> 00:21:10,516 Speaker 1: just to survive now. But it was a process just 350 00:21:10,636 --> 00:21:13,916 Speaker 1: to learn, very difficult process. But I grew up as 351 00:21:13,916 --> 00:21:16,916 Speaker 1: a person and as an artist a lot because I 352 00:21:17,076 --> 00:21:20,516 Speaker 1: had to go through that difficult moment. So some of 353 00:21:20,556 --> 00:21:22,516 Speaker 1: the songs on the last album you did do in 354 00:21:22,636 --> 00:21:26,236 Speaker 1: English the original, like Bob Marley's Could You Be Loved, 355 00:21:26,756 --> 00:21:30,516 Speaker 1: but you translated Bruce Springsteen's Dancing in the Dark. Was 356 00:21:30,596 --> 00:21:33,436 Speaker 1: there a reason you did that? Yeah. The reason why 357 00:21:33,476 --> 00:21:35,836 Speaker 1: I did that was because when I was trying to 358 00:21:36,156 --> 00:21:39,236 Speaker 1: do the translation for Bob Marley in Spanish, it was 359 00:21:39,356 --> 00:21:42,516 Speaker 1: kind of weird just to sing that lady, you know, 360 00:21:42,756 --> 00:21:45,636 Speaker 1: I was no, no, this doesn't feel good. I think 361 00:21:45,636 --> 00:21:49,436 Speaker 1: it's better. But when I started to do the translation 362 00:21:49,676 --> 00:21:52,556 Speaker 1: to Dancing in the Dark, I was like, what is 363 00:21:52,716 --> 00:21:57,396 Speaker 1: this because it was so vulnerable and so deep human 364 00:21:57,596 --> 00:22:01,476 Speaker 1: like I was feeling that way somehow, and then the 365 00:22:01,596 --> 00:22:05,716 Speaker 1: translation just came like beautiful in Spanish. Can you play 366 00:22:05,756 --> 00:22:07,876 Speaker 1: and sing just a tiny bit of it in Spanish? 367 00:22:08,396 --> 00:22:16,956 Speaker 1: Because it didn't really did come out so beautifully. Yeah, mississitomasity, 368 00:22:17,876 --> 00:22:28,476 Speaker 1: no brand, little Figo, no bring the simple, the honey 369 00:22:28,636 --> 00:22:41,676 Speaker 1: stadio e vio limbs are killous school. That was so beautiful. God, 370 00:22:41,716 --> 00:22:45,156 Speaker 1: I wish I had taken Spanish class more seriously. So. 371 00:22:46,036 --> 00:22:48,196 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people artists I work with, 372 00:22:49,196 --> 00:22:54,396 Speaker 1: talk about feeling anxiety, or they'll also talk about having 373 00:22:54,516 --> 00:22:57,196 Speaker 1: stage fright. They get nervous before performing. Has that ever 374 00:22:57,276 --> 00:22:59,556 Speaker 1: happened to you? Or You've been pretty lucky with no? 375 00:22:59,796 --> 00:23:04,476 Speaker 1: No a lot Eric sometimes sometimes now I'm all the 376 00:23:04,556 --> 00:23:06,756 Speaker 1: times I would say, all the times before I am 377 00:23:06,836 --> 00:23:10,676 Speaker 1: going to perform, I feel insecure and I feel like 378 00:23:11,516 --> 00:23:13,476 Speaker 1: why I choose to do this in my life. I 379 00:23:13,556 --> 00:23:17,196 Speaker 1: should be at home, relaxed, you know, no pressure at all, 380 00:23:17,316 --> 00:23:20,996 Speaker 1: just in the countryside. You know, I don't know. For example, 381 00:23:21,036 --> 00:23:23,756 Speaker 1: you're gonna give the four show on the road in 382 00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:26,676 Speaker 1: a weekend, you feel so tired, and you go to 383 00:23:26,756 --> 00:23:28,716 Speaker 1: the sound check and feel like maybe you can sing 384 00:23:28,836 --> 00:23:31,756 Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm so tired, I feel headache. I 385 00:23:31,796 --> 00:23:33,796 Speaker 1: don't know what to say to the audience tonight. But 386 00:23:33,996 --> 00:23:38,796 Speaker 1: then I really I really feel so alive when I 387 00:23:38,916 --> 00:23:41,716 Speaker 1: go to stage and the first moment until you play 388 00:23:41,756 --> 00:23:45,396 Speaker 1: the guitar and everything sounds perfect, and then it's like, wow, okay, 389 00:23:45,756 --> 00:23:48,636 Speaker 1: this is it. I'm here, this is who I am. 390 00:23:49,356 --> 00:23:52,116 Speaker 1: Everything goes away and you are just like a superstar. 391 00:23:53,196 --> 00:23:55,676 Speaker 1: A lot of energy. Man. That's that's something that I 392 00:23:55,876 --> 00:23:58,876 Speaker 1: really love and I trust. Like when you say in 393 00:23:58,956 --> 00:24:01,396 Speaker 1: the lessons that you have to trust your voice, that's 394 00:24:01,436 --> 00:24:03,636 Speaker 1: what I do. Like, Okay, I know I'm very tired, 395 00:24:03,836 --> 00:24:06,716 Speaker 1: but tonight I know that I'm gonna make it happen. Anyways, 396 00:24:06,796 --> 00:24:11,436 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick it. Everybody says there, yeah, well it's good. 397 00:24:11,516 --> 00:24:13,876 Speaker 1: Once you've done it a few times, then you know, okay, 398 00:24:13,956 --> 00:24:17,316 Speaker 1: I can count on that. Yeah exactly. I think my 399 00:24:17,756 --> 00:24:22,076 Speaker 1: connection with music since that, you know, early time just 400 00:24:22,276 --> 00:24:25,556 Speaker 1: changed my life and save my life. And definitely, you know, 401 00:24:26,476 --> 00:24:28,836 Speaker 1: it's very important for me just to have a way 402 00:24:28,916 --> 00:24:34,156 Speaker 1: to express feelings. If I have sadness or happiness or whatever, 403 00:24:34,716 --> 00:24:37,796 Speaker 1: I can just take all that information and make it 404 00:24:38,596 --> 00:24:44,916 Speaker 1: a song. There is something spiritual for me and energetic. 405 00:24:45,876 --> 00:24:47,916 Speaker 1: I remember Erica when I was a kid, and I 406 00:24:48,076 --> 00:24:51,556 Speaker 1: was in my living room in my house nighttime, and 407 00:24:51,716 --> 00:24:54,636 Speaker 1: I was with my guitar singing, and just that was 408 00:24:54,996 --> 00:24:59,516 Speaker 1: like the first moment in my life that I've feeled something. 409 00:25:00,556 --> 00:25:04,276 Speaker 1: And for me, just to connect myself to the universe 410 00:25:04,436 --> 00:25:09,716 Speaker 1: through the singing is also like meditation time. Like every 411 00:25:09,796 --> 00:25:11,836 Speaker 1: day when I come here and I close the door 412 00:25:11,956 --> 00:25:15,476 Speaker 1: and I do my exercises, I go like an a 413 00:25:15,556 --> 00:25:20,356 Speaker 1: trance and I start to go another dimension. I feel 414 00:25:20,356 --> 00:25:22,996 Speaker 1: connected with something bigger than me. That's what I feel 415 00:25:23,036 --> 00:25:27,436 Speaker 1: when I'm singing. Well, Wannas, thank you so much. I 416 00:25:27,596 --> 00:25:30,756 Speaker 1: really appreciate you for doing that. Oh Eric, my pressure man, 417 00:25:30,796 --> 00:25:32,556 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm sorry about my english and 418 00:25:32,636 --> 00:25:38,116 Speaker 1: about my singing. Now, are you kidding? It's all gray, 419 00:25:42,436 --> 00:25:44,756 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with a new 420 00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:47,516 Speaker 1: vocal exercise. I'm not going to give anything away, but 421 00:25:47,636 --> 00:26:01,316 Speaker 1: it's right on the tip of my tongue. So here's 422 00:26:01,356 --> 00:26:04,596 Speaker 1: something for you to think about. Quite often singers don't 423 00:26:04,676 --> 00:26:08,836 Speaker 1: realize that, but when they're singing, their tongue involuntarily pulls 424 00:26:08,876 --> 00:26:11,716 Speaker 1: back into the back of their throat, and that constricts 425 00:26:11,756 --> 00:26:14,516 Speaker 1: the sound and it makes it way more difficult to sing. 426 00:26:15,036 --> 00:26:17,956 Speaker 1: There's quite a few exercises that can help fix this problem. 427 00:26:18,196 --> 00:26:20,836 Speaker 1: I'm going to show you an easy one today. I 428 00:26:20,956 --> 00:26:22,716 Speaker 1: want you to stick out your tongue as far as 429 00:26:22,756 --> 00:26:25,156 Speaker 1: you can and touch your upper lip with your tongue. 430 00:26:25,956 --> 00:26:28,836 Speaker 1: Try it saying la la la, and then try it 431 00:26:28,916 --> 00:26:31,956 Speaker 1: on other vowels like lay lay lay or low low low. 432 00:26:32,676 --> 00:26:35,596 Speaker 1: Go slowly to give yourself time to stick your tongue 433 00:26:35,636 --> 00:26:38,636 Speaker 1: out and touch the upper lip. It's going to feel 434 00:26:38,676 --> 00:26:41,316 Speaker 1: awkward on your tongue and probably on your mouth as well, 435 00:26:41,556 --> 00:26:44,196 Speaker 1: but it should feel very comfortable on your vocal cords. 436 00:26:44,756 --> 00:26:47,116 Speaker 1: You can practice sticking your tongue out touching your upper 437 00:26:47,156 --> 00:26:50,116 Speaker 1: lip on any musical pattern. Don't overdo it the first 438 00:26:50,156 --> 00:26:52,276 Speaker 1: time you try this. Try doing it just for a 439 00:26:52,356 --> 00:26:54,716 Speaker 1: few minutes, and then each day you can add a 440 00:26:54,756 --> 00:26:58,636 Speaker 1: little more time. For example, try singing la la la 441 00:26:58,876 --> 00:27:06,516 Speaker 1: with your tongue touching your upper lip on this patternmaaaaaa. 442 00:27:08,716 --> 00:27:12,156 Speaker 1: Bass baritones and tenors start on a C below middle C. 443 00:28:01,436 --> 00:28:04,276 Speaker 1: Sopranos and alto's. A good place for you to start 444 00:28:04,356 --> 00:28:57,956 Speaker 1: would be around an A below middle C. Eventually, as 445 00:28:57,996 --> 00:29:00,596 Speaker 1: you feel like you have built up your stamina, try 446 00:29:00,716 --> 00:29:03,156 Speaker 1: going to the lowest note you can sing comfortably, and 447 00:29:03,236 --> 00:29:05,756 Speaker 1: then to the highest note you can sing comfortably. To 448 00:29:05,916 --> 00:29:08,436 Speaker 1: keep your body loose and relaxed, try some of the 449 00:29:08,516 --> 00:29:11,196 Speaker 1: physical mood movement we talked about in the other vocal tips. 450 00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:13,996 Speaker 1: If you want to share it, I'd love to see 451 00:29:14,036 --> 00:29:16,676 Speaker 1: a video of you doing any of the exercises. This 452 00:29:16,836 --> 00:29:19,116 Speaker 1: one might be the most fun one to watch. Use 453 00:29:19,196 --> 00:29:23,676 Speaker 1: the hashtag Backstage Pass pod on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, or 454 00:29:23,716 --> 00:29:26,436 Speaker 1: wherever you like to post. I can't wait to see them, 455 00:29:27,236 --> 00:29:41,676 Speaker 1: maybe me. Backstage Pass with Eric Vitro is written and 456 00:29:41,796 --> 00:29:45,316 Speaker 1: hosted by me Eric Vitro and produced by Morgan Jaffee. 457 00:29:46,076 --> 00:29:51,036 Speaker 1: Katherine Girardou is our showrunner, Emily Rostek as our associate producer, 458 00:29:51,636 --> 00:29:55,556 Speaker 1: Kate Parkinson Morgan as our editor. The show is mixed 459 00:29:55,556 --> 00:29:59,236 Speaker 1: and mastered by Ben Tolliday. Additional engineering help is from 460 00:29:59,316 --> 00:30:03,356 Speaker 1: Jacob Gorski, Martin Gonzalez, and Kay Wayne Mia Lobell as 461 00:30:03,396 --> 00:30:07,956 Speaker 1: our executive producer. 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