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Speaker 2: Game three. A little finals preview here. After Denver took

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Speaker 3: from quarter to quarter. So that is what the Heat do.

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Speaker 3: They're so freakin resilient no matter what the situation is

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Speaker 2: Who specifically for Denver needs to step up tonight. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: So it's just not forcing it. We know MPGA forced

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Speaker 3: it's maybe it's not fun and sexy to talk about,

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Speaker 2: I don't, But I think watch tonight how locked in

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Speaker 2: And I think Michael Porter Jr. The type of talent

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Speaker 2: He had shocked us and he was surprisingly good, especially

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Speaker 2: So just just watch early what type of MPJ has.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he lost it in game two and it was

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Speaker 2: That's very very few in NBA Finals game for a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, coming off Game one where he played forty three minutes,

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Speaker 3: Michael Malone was fine yanking him. He's playing a nineteen

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Speaker 3: one where MPJ felt like he hit a bunch of threes?

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Speaker 3: And that's why Nikola Jokic went to the postgame podium

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Speaker 3: But he'd only shot two of eleven from three in

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Speaker 3: Maybe just felt like he could take whatever shot he wanted.

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Speaker 3: I think that if they're playing great defense and they're

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Speaker 3: But you know, Jimmy could shut everybody up and have

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Speaker 2: One thing we know about tonight he guard Tyler. Hero

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Speaker 2: did tell here it did He told an ESPN sideline

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Speaker 2: reporter at least that he was experiencing soreness and swelling

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Speaker 2: We thought, yeah, he's probably gonna play in Miami he'll

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Speaker 3: But apparently not now.

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Speaker 3: They're not practice. They're called sort of practice. I call yeah,

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Speaker 3: I said, I said shoot around. They're called practice. They

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Speaker 3: But before game one it was like the second team

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Speaker 2: To the surprise of many, the Nuggets and Heat are

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Speaker 2: Sunday's Game two averaged a six point zero rating and

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Speaker 2: eleven point nine to one million viewers on ABC, down

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Speaker 2: These aren't bad. These are really good. Keeps out people

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Speaker 3: I think that's what the headline should be, turns out

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Speaker 3: In Europe, the game is spreading internationally because of Jokic

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Speaker 3: the product is good. I can't wait till I can't

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Speaker 2: Are gonna need the vision pro goggles. Jesus thirty five dollars.

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Speaker 2: How's the company account looking.

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Speaker 3: A couple? You're asking a lot share we have.

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Speaker 2: I'll take game one, you take game two. Trade its

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Speaker 3: Now we're gonna have to sit beside each other every game,

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Speaker 2: I'll take my right eye. Yeah, you'll sit with your

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Speaker 2: left eye. I don't know if it works that way anyway.

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Speaker 3: I bring that up because I don't know how ratings

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Speaker 3: work anymore. I just I just mean, Yes, these are

435
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Speaker 3: people logged into their cabook provider or whatever. But people

436
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Speaker 3: are watching on League Pass, people are watching on playback.

437
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Speaker 3: What's what's the difference. How does it work? How do

438
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Speaker 3: ratings work? I need to I need I need the book,

439
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: and nobody really knows. So, yes, they are, people are

440
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: definitely watching these games. But the ratings are so good

441
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Speaker 3: for live TV and for basketball that people are going

442
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Speaker 3: to pay a lot of money your Amazon's or whoever

443
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Speaker 3: for the for the right to air game.

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Speaker 2: Here's all I know. Here's all I know in saying

445
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Speaker 2: that headline NBA Finals Game two viewership same as last year,

446
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Speaker 2: better than it being way down, right, that's all you

447
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Speaker 2: want to see, especially with you know, again, these markets,

448
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Speaker 2: the teams that are there in comparison to those big,

449
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Speaker 2: big draws in your Celtics and Warriors. If it's the

450
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Speaker 2: same or better win.

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Speaker 3: Huge sounds right.

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Speaker 2: If it's If suddenly the headline is NBA Finals viewership

453
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Speaker 2: down forty compared to last year, well then, and that's

454
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Speaker 2: all that anybody understands about any of these numbers I

455
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Speaker 2: just gave you. Anyway, let's go, oh wow, fort that's down.

456
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Speaker 2: That's bad, but it's not so good.

457
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Speaker 3: I speculate every time I see number of skeets. I

458
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Speaker 3: don't know if I'm just an internet kid now where

459
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Speaker 3: everything's a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: I just don't you don't even believe that no I

461
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Speaker 2: made them up.

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Speaker 3: I seeing the online buzz people are watching games, there's

463
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Speaker 3: no doubt. But yeah, maybe it's seeped into my head

464
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Speaker 3: that everything isn't as it seems. Well, I looked at

465
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Speaker 3: these NBA attendance numbers via our friends at ed ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Did you did you see these? So they track them,

467
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Speaker 3: you know, from game to game year over year over

468
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Speaker 3: year over years. Sure, we've got nine teams, let's throw

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Speaker 3: ten with with the wraps in at one hundred percent

470
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Speaker 3: or more attendance. Okay, yes, come on, we live here

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta. Atlanta had one hundred for one hundred and

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Speaker 3: four percent capacity.

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Speaker 2: Standing room only?

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Oh hey.

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Speaker 2: Look I was in that standing room only section a

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Speaker 2: couple of times. I believe that those games.

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Speaker 3: Was it for a Charlotte game standing than there were

478
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Speaker 3: in the in the postseason?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is for the entire season. Was was

481
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Speaker 3: it standing room only for a Charlotte game? You don't

482
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Speaker 3: bark anyway. Probably these are different ratings numbers. I get it.

483
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Speaker 3: There was there's I'm sure there's eleven million people watching.

484
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Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm one hundred percent sure of that. Ratings

485
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Speaker 3: are good. I feel like there is a buzz people

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Speaker 3: like basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

488
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Speaker 3: I think that's what it comes down to.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully these numbers go up up. You know, the culser

490
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Speaker 2: of this series stays if it does go that way.

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Speaker 3: How many people watched us on playback? Was it ten

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Speaker 3: or eleven million?

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Speaker 2: I clocked us out at the highest we got was

494
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Speaker 2: about thirteen million, that's pretty good. H That's not bad

495
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Speaker 2: all right. In other NBA news, according to Jake Fisher

496
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Speaker 2: of Yeahoo Sports, the Houston Rockets have interest in Fred

497
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Speaker 2: Van Vliet, Brook Lopez, Cam Johnson, and Dylan Brooks in

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Speaker 2: free agency. The Rockets still plan to pursue James Harden,

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Speaker 2: but Van Vliet is viewed as a potential secondary option

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Speaker 2: if the Beard does resign with the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

501
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Speaker 2: Houston is projected to hold the largest amount of cap

502
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Speaker 2: space in the NBA, over sixty million dollars to play

503
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Speaker 2: with here with expectations to spend and try and improve,

504
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Speaker 2: and as we've talked about before, had some vets in

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Speaker 2: there to go along with this young core and now

506
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Speaker 2: Udoka as a coach. I will say Jake Fisher, love him,

507
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Speaker 2: love his work at Yahoo Sports. But our guy at

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Speaker 2: the Athletic, Kelly Eco, had him on our live show

509
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Speaker 2: in Houston during March Madness or the Final game. He

510
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Speaker 2: reported these names like three or four weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Checks out. You know, Kelly had this list of names.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was these exact four names Van Vliet, Brook, Lopez,

514
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Speaker 2: Cam Johnson and Dylan Brooks that the Rockets were tied

515
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Speaker 2: to and possibly targeting in free agency. So good Kelly

516
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Speaker 2: was the head of the game, as he should be.

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Speaker 2: He's locked in on the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting into a rumor season.

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Speaker 2: Silly season is almost here. I mean, silly season's here.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Kyrie Irving and a Lebron James reunion

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Speaker 2: for thirty minutes yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're two weeks from the draft essentially, so

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Speaker 3: it feels like there's going to be some trades happening, right,

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Speaker 3: especially because a team like the Rockets have sixty million

525
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Speaker 3: to spend. And yeah, there's the hardened chatter. I do

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Speaker 3: think this as a Raptor fan, I think this is

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Speaker 3: an attractive scenario for Fred vlian vliet As. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: that the Reps offered him a contract before the season.

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Speaker 3: We all know that story. Apparently Fred turned it down

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Speaker 3: thinking he could earn more. Yeah, player option for next year, No,

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Speaker 3: thank you. At twenty two mil, he's going to make

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Speaker 3: more than that from a team. I'm guessing this is

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Speaker 3: just me reading into things, but Fred wants to be

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Speaker 3: more of a prominent guy where he's featured a little

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Speaker 3: bit more. He had the ball in his hands a lot.

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Speaker 3: But it was a little different with Pascal Siakam there

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Speaker 3: with the Rockets, a nice contract, thirty per handling the

538
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Speaker 3: ball a ton with Jalen Green beside him makes sense

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Speaker 3: to me. And these names really make sense to me.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want Dylan Brooks on an inexpensive deal.

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Speaker 3: The guy's not playing in China, it's not happening. He's

542
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Speaker 3: going to play in the National Basketball Association. Brook Lopez

543
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: were very, very interesting. The Bucks were a one seed.

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Speaker 3: He's obviously older, but they're just gonna let him go.

545
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Speaker 3: What's gonna happen there? And the Cam Johnson scenario, it

546
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Speaker 3: seems like the Nets would match anything Cam Johns going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't think I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: But those are the three names. You like them, you

549
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Speaker 2: think they make some sense, maybe all three of them here,

550
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Speaker 2: but you're saying one or two of these.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what happens with brook Lopez. I'm not

552
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent certain. My guess would be he'd stay

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Speaker 3: in Milwaukee with the Rockets. Now you've got a three

554
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Speaker 3: man big man rotation. Lopez got to play a lot.

555
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Speaker 3: Shangoon's gotta play a lot in Jabari Smith Junior, who

556
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Speaker 3: came on in the last couple of months. I think

557
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Speaker 3: you want to play him a good amount. But they

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Speaker 3: all makes sense. So Fisher Eco, they're right, They're both right. Yeah,

559
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Speaker 3: but they're gonna spend. I think tilm fertiit is gonna

560
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Speaker 3: spend in Houston.

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Speaker 2: This would be a good summer to be a veteran

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Speaker 2: free agent, right, like like a Van Vleet or a

563
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Speaker 2: Brook Lopez or you know, even Dylan Brooks to some

564
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Speaker 2: extent he's a bit younger. But like, there are these

565
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Speaker 2: squads that are like, all right, we've lost for three

566
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: or four years in a row. Yeah, you know, sometimes

567
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: we don't even win the number one pick out of it.

568
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Speaker 2: So we're done with this bullshit. Let's win some games.

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Speaker 2: And to do that, we need to get some actual

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Speaker 2: borderline all star guys in vet guys to help lead

571
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Speaker 2: us and help show us how to win. And some

572
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Speaker 2: of these guys fit that Bill, specially Van Vleet, I

573
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: think is perfectly suited to do that, especially as the

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Speaker 2: point the Rockets, the Pistons, the Magic. Like these teams

575
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Speaker 2: are like, all right, come on, let's let's sort of

576
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Speaker 2: go now and they'll have some wiggle room with the

577
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Speaker 2: cap space, and yeah, these guys are gonna get paid. Man,

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Speaker 2: you could maybe. I don't know how Rockets fans feel

579
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Speaker 2: about it. I think on one here you're like, yeah,

580
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Speaker 2: he'd be awesome Van Vleet. If this whole James Harden

581
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: thing and he's not coming back, maybe Rockets fans would

582
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: prefer VanVleet over James Harden, especially when you start talking

583
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Speaker 2: like four years and a whole lot of millions. But

584
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: what will it look like at the back end of

585
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Speaker 2: these contract sure, maybe not pretty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Magic are interesting. You brought them up as

587
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: a potential Van Vliet opportunity. They need a guard, there's

588
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: no doubt to help out, and so that's interesting them

589
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Speaker 3: at number two. A lot of these picks could be

590
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Speaker 3: traded towards the top of the draft ladder. Gary Trent

591
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: Junior has been rumored with the Orlando Magic as well,

592
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Speaker 3: looking for a guard another rap It's silly season, but

593
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Speaker 3: also buying a lot of these rumors. I think there

594
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Speaker 3: will be some some big contracts handed up.

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Speaker 2: When did you say the draft was two.

596
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Speaker 3: Weeks tomorrow, So June twenty second.

597
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Speaker 2: And this could be a weird draft or a wild draft,

598
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Speaker 2: I should say, because a lot of these teams with

599
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Speaker 2: their picks going, do we really just want to take

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Speaker 2: another prospect and a really potentially young star or do

601
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: we want to like move off it and get help

602
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Speaker 2: in here? Yeah, Blazers come to mind stuff like that

603
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: with the number three pick. And speaking of that, let's

604
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Speaker 2: pivot to our last topic. Here are guys at the

605
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: Athletic great article yesterday titled which NBA teams are best

606
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Speaker 2: positioned to trade for a star? Because the thinking goes,

607
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Speaker 2: inevitably a star player is going to be on the market. Again,

608
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Speaker 2: this is the NBA, and when that moment comes, team's

609
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: got to be prepared to jump into that conversation and

610
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: put together a potential package. So Mike workinoff, Fred Katz

611
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Speaker 2: on the boulevard and James Edwards is the third. They

612
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Speaker 2: took a look at the NBA landscape task they looked

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Speaker 2: at the trade assets on each squad, and then they

614
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Speaker 2: drafted their top like fifteen teams in terms of teams

615
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Speaker 2: best positioned to trade for a star. Their top three

616
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Speaker 2: went like this, the Thunder, the Magic and the Blazers.

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Speaker 2: I know you had a chance to read it. What

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Speaker 2: do you think about how they drafted? And really the

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Speaker 2: question being that I posted to you and everybody watching

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Speaker 2: live and listening later. You know, which team do you

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Speaker 2: think is best position for a big trade if a

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Speaker 2: star comes available.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe, even though we know Sam Presty is

624
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Speaker 3: a hoarder, that he has twelve first round picks to

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Speaker 3: trade five unprotected picks to trade. I guess because we've

626
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Speaker 3: been so focused on their growth internally. They made a

627
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Speaker 3: great trade for Shay Gil just Alexander who's turned into

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Speaker 3: a damn superstar. They basically get a top two pick

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Speaker 3: with Chet Holmgren coming back next year. I mean they're stacked.

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Speaker 3: The Williams, the Giddy's got a DOR contract behind Dort

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Speaker 3: number three. Is this incredible? Yeah? This this coveroards. It's

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Speaker 3: not a Dort, it's a covered dort of draft picks.

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Speaker 2: How many draft picks these?

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Speaker 3: I yeah. As far as teams that could make a

635
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Speaker 3: deal for a superstar, I think I think the Athletic

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Speaker 3: got it right with okayc is number.

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Speaker 2: One, Forko taking the Oka see thunder number one.

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Speaker 3: What an interesting idea for an article.

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00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was cool. I mean it's nice

640
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: that they lay out. I highly recommend you check it out.

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00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: Go the Athletic dot com slash no doune get yourself

642
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: a subscription. Yeah, laying out like like you just said,

643
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: you're like gotta be reminded at times like oh crap.

644
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: The thunder could like if there is a star that's like, ah,

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Speaker 2: get me out of here, I'm tired of this. Like

646
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Speaker 2: now who that is? Is interesting? Like you know, like

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Speaker 2: I feel like a thunderer not gonna be actively calling

648
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Speaker 2: and aggressively going, oh give us Damian Lillard. If Dame

649
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: were finally to be like, hey, I want to leave Portland,

650
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: he's saying the opposite once again, or Bradley Beale or

651
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: or maybe you disagree, like it feels, if anything, it's

652
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: gonna be like a wing to a big right. That

653
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: would be like whoa can we get that that superstar? Now?

654
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: Is that Karl Anthony Towns? Does that move the needle

655
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: for you? Somebody else? But they sure are gonna have

656
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: a hell of a package. If the squad that is

657
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: suddenly sort of forced to trade their star or wants

658
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: to move their star, they're gonna like, yeah, let's get

659
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of draft capitol back and let's reb totally

660
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna have the best options.

661
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it will be sort of like some

662
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: teams go into the draft thinking best player available or

663
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: draft by position. I think they would trade by position.

664
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Speaker 3: They wouldn't. They wouldn't just say, oh, Dame, yeah, let's

665
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: do this. They want somebody also, not not only position,

666
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: but also somebody that fits their timeline. Yeah, yes, so

667
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: a young vet if they wanted to do that. But

668
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: it feels like they almost have a roster internally. So

669
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: some of these other teams, like the Magic Blazers Rockets,

670
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: would be more willing to make a deal. I think,

671
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: just because I mean, this Thunder team is just they're

672
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: damn good, alright.

673
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: The Blazers at number three in this draft from these guys,

674
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: I think it was James Edwards the third taking them there.

675
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: The idea being you're keeping Dame and that the package

676
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: I think very enticing to the right team for a

677
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: superstar comeback. But like the number three pick in the

678
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: draft at sharp and then possibly signons like so two

679
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: really really good promising young players, and then the number

680
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: three pick, now that would have to be for a

681
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: hell of a player. I would imagine coming back. That

682
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: feels like that's a good package to a team. Again,

683
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: that's like moving off of their star and like sort

684
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: of like starting from scratch a little bit. But yeah,

685
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: I thought at first I thought Blazers are three That

686
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: seems like a reef. Seems what about the Rockets? What

687
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: about the Pelicans actually who have a sort of you know,

688
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: young promising players and then obviously picks as well. But

689
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: you know, Edwards made the case for me there. That's

690
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: that is that's a juicy It's a juicy carrot to

691
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: dangle to the right team. I don't Then you can

692
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: debate whether the Blazer should even do that or should

693
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: it go the opposite way and they should be the

694
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: one trading Demian Lillard, which I know we've talked about

695
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: for I feels like a thousand podcasts.

696
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's why it feels like, Yes, it

697
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: feels like a little like crazy season, like all these

698
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: rumors coming out of nowhere. But when you look at

699
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: the draft order and things have shaken out with Charlotte, Portland,

700
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: Houston and Detroit trailing San Antonio who we know who

701
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: they're taking. But beyond Webbin Yama, Charlotte, Portland, Houston, Detroit, Orlando,

702
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: you could see making a deal. So I think we're

703
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: all going to go a little crazy reading rumors the

704
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: next two weeks, especially before the draft. But I think

705
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: all these teams could pull off a deal. And that

706
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: package that you just threw out there for the Blazers

707
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: and if they wanted to go get a star beside

708
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: Dame Simon's sharp and the number three pick, isn't that

709
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: It's basically what we threw out there for og Annoby

710
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: as a potential when when we were really, you know,

711
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: trying and trying to juice the copboards of the Raptors. Yes,

712
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: they could probably. I think they should hope for somebody

713
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: a little bit more established as a bigger player than

714
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: og With that package.

715
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, you already talked about the Raptors, you know, because

716
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: of free agency, potentially a losing VanVleet, potentially losing Gary

717
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: Trent junior. Could they be one of these teams that

718
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: have these picks, these unprotected picks, future picks, maybe young

719
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: promising players that they're the ones offering up an Og

720
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: or even a step higher in a right now, that's

721
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: a huge decision from Messi and Bobby Webster and like

722
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: the direction of your franchise. But they definitely are they are.

723
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: They have like they almost have that type of those

724
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: star players. OG. I'm not saying he's a superstar. I'm saying,

725
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a talent, a talented player that you

726
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: can put on mostly any team from what he gives

727
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: you defensively and being able to hit a shot. But

728
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 2: Siakam man not you know, right in his prime under

729
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: contract of course. And there's a lot of teams I

730
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: think that convince themselves like, oh yeah, we pair him

731
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: with our other two or three stars, young stars, then

732
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 2: we're talking here.

733
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, this trade value call him has the Raptors sort

734
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: of middle of the pack in the NBA their fifteenth

735
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: in the NBA in terms of being able to make

736
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: a big deal. But depending on what they want to trade,

737
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: they've they've got it all. They've got every level of

738
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: player from Siakam to Scottie Barnes, who is deemed untradeable

739
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: in this column. Probably true, Probably true. Uh. You know,

740
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: when we talked about the Kevin Durant trade that happened

741
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: last year, they weren't willing to part with Scotty Barnes

742
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: so they didn't get KD And why would they trade

743
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: him now after the year that he had. Doesn't seem

744
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: like his his value could be any lower because we

745
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: all believe that the value is only going up, right,

746
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: Why the hell wouldn't it because he's Scottie Barnes.

747
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: But like the Thunder are obviously not trading Sga the

748
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: Magic or not trading Polo right, the Blazers are I guess,

749
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: maybe not trading Damian Lillard. But who knows? Nobody untradable

750
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: on the Rockets? I agree, is anybody untradable on the Pelicans?

751
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: Big z Zion I guess? But yeah, interesting fun article.

752
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: I highly recommend you check it out in terms of

753
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: which of these teams are best positioned to make a

754
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: big deal once that superstar becomes available. It's only a

755
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: matter of time. This is the NBA. It's like it

756
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: feels like there's three or four superstars like delt a

757
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: year now they're a superstar stars stars. They're only a

758
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: handful of super superstars.

759
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 3: Right, They're moving like coaches are being fired pretty quickly, very.

760
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: Quickly, And like coaches being fired, they just go to

761
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: another team. Yeah that's true, Right, We're gonna take our

762
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: first break. When we come back, we're gonna look at

763
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: the list of NBA teams to never win a championship.

764
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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, all right here in the Classic Factory,

765
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: joining us live on YouTube. We would love to see it.

766
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Hit the like button, make sure you subscribe. As you

767
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: all know, the Denver Nuggets, they're looking for three more

768
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: wins here in the NBA Finals to get their name

769
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: removed from an infamous list NBA teams that have never

770
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: won an NBA championship. There are twelve NBA teams in

771
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: total to have never won a championship in the NBA. Okay,

772
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: because the Hawks, they won a title when they were

773
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: Saint Louis back in the fifties. The Kings won a

774
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: title when they were in Rochester in the fifties. And

775
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: the thunder Sonics thing, it's always weird. They're sort of

776
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: like their own franchise. So they're on the list. Okac

777
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: Thunder but of course you know, coming from Seattle, but

778
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: we're going to get a team in Seattle again and

779
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: they're just going to take their history back, so to speak.

780
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: It gets a little perplexing. But follow me here. I

781
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: thought it'd be fun to go through the twelve teams.

782
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: Like I said, to have never won a championship in

783
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: the NBA, will run through them in alphabetical order, discuss

784
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: the closest they ever got to winning it all. In

785
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: some of these cases they got very very close, like

786
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: the Nuggets are right now, and then using a scale

787
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: from one to ten, sort of debate how close they're

788
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: winning to winning a chip right now. And that's where

789
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 2: you can definitely chime in here. So alphabetical order. Oaklyn

790
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: Nets forty seven years in the NBA. They've made the

791
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: playoffs twenty four times now the Nets. They won two

792
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: ABA championships in the seventies as the New York Nets,

793
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: but not an NBA title. The closest they ever got

794
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: tasks you know this. They lost two consecutive finals in

795
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: two thousand and two and two thousand and three to

796
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: the Lakers and Spurs, respectively. In three that series was

797
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: tied after New Jersey won Game four by the score

798
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: of seventy seven to seventy six Game four of the

799
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: three finals, seventy seven is twenty six, but Duncan too much.

800
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: In that series, Tim Nukan averaged twenty four to seventeen

801
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: to five with five point three blocks against the Nets.

802
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: Now you might say, you could that the Nets were

803
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: even closer to winning a title if Durant gets them

804
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: past the Bucks in the twenty twenty one playoffs. Obviously

805
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: there's the game seven foot two big.

806
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: On the line, round two.

807
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: There still got two more series to go and win.

808
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: But the Bucks go on to win it. You could maybe,

809
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: maybe maybe make that case, but come on, they went

810
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: to the finals two consecutive years. Your wife a huge

811
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: Nets fan. I'm sure she was living and dying with

812
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: those series.

813
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: Absolutely. She has a Keith van Horn jersey that was

814
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: signed by Corn.

815
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: What.

816
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's framed.

817
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: That is amazing.

818
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, weird stuff. Anyways, Yes, all my my costumes, my

819
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: my my carry Skittles costumes from her. She has a

820
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: bunch of jerseys. But I was surprised to look at

821
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Speaker 3: you said seventy seven seventy six, Game four of the

822
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: two thousand and three finals, because it was two three

823
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: to two back then, right, the Nets had three home

824
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: games and they were up there. It was it was

825
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: split when they went home for Game three. They lost

826
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: game three, one game four, and then lost Game five

827
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: and then went back to San Antonio. So yeah, they

828
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: had home court advantage after you know, splitting on the

829
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: road and then I couldn't take care of business. It

830
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: was weird back then. Don't link the two three two.

831
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a fan of it either. On a

832
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: scale of one to ten, how close are the nets

833
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: to winning a championship right now? Ten being like, oh

834
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: my god, knocking on the door, it's happening, or very

835
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: likely happening. One nowhere close. Where would you put them?

836
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I would say, you know, they

837
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: feel like an average ish team right now, but I

838
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: would say a little closer to winning the championship than not.

839
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Speaker 3: So six wow, because I think people want to play there.

840
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: I think they have some assets. We just talked about

841
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: the whole trading for a superstar thing they have. They

842
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: have some good assets. Mickael Burgess is you know, a

843
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: burgeoning star. Will he be a number one guy in

844
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: a championship team? It seems a little far fetched, but

845
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 3: he's so damn good. So they're in a good spot.

846
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: I think they made it. They made it out pretty

847
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 3: well after these crazy couple of years.

848
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: That's that's fair. That's fair. I think six is maybe

849
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: a little little high, but in the ballpark four or five.

850
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: Let's say, oh, okay, next team, Charlotte Hornets thirty three

851
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 2: seasons made the playoffs ten times. The closest the Charlotte

852
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: Hornets have ever been to winning an NBA Finals an

853
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: NBA Championship. It's not that close. They've only made it

854
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: to the conference semifinals four times, so they have never

855
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 2: even gone to the conference finals three times. They lost

856
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: in five games in those conference semifinals, so not all

857
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: that close. But in one they pushed the Bucks to

858
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: seven games, and in fact, they had a three to

859
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: two series lead with Game six. I believe in Charlotte,

860
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: and they got crushed in the second half by Sam

861
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: Cassell and Baron Davis and Jamal Mashburn for the Hornets,

862
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: picked a bad time to go ice cold. They shot

863
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: a combine eleven for thirty five in that Game six

864
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: that they could have closed out instead lose and go

865
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: on to lose in seven. So never really all that close.

866
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: When we're talking about the Charlotte Hornets a scale of

867
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 2: one to ten, how close is this team to winning

868
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: a chip?

869
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty positive today, Okay, go on, so Lamello

870
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: is obviously the number one. Start with a bullet there,

871
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: I'd go more four. Okay, it's very kind, Yeah, it's kind. Yeah,

872
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: that's high. So they're not they're not anywhere close.

873
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: They're not. No, I mean, they're not even really anywhere

874
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: close to a conference finals, let alone winning a chip. Okay,

875
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets is next on this list, alphabetical wise. Forty

876
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: seven years in the NBA made the playoffs twenty nine times,

877
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: the closest they've ever been to winning.

878
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: One of these things right now, right here, right now.

879
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, their best team in the West. They had home

880
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: court advantage in the finals, especially when Miami got there.

881
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: They have a two time MVP, everybody's healthy, full squad,

882
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: they've got the rotation, they've got a coach that's been

883
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: there for a while, and obviously they have an identity.

884
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: And they're tied one to one, so, you know, big

885
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: game tonight, but they've you've never been closer, that's for sure.

886
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: It's shaken out damn well. That they got home court

887
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: advantage with three teams in the Eastern Conference that had

888
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: better records than them, but they end up facing a

889
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: team far lower in the bracket, and here they are

890
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: with also their best player in franchise history, sort of

891
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: reconciling with the team. Not Jokic, dan Issel coming back.

892
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: He was there standing outside the arena and a lady,

893
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: older lady with her daughter who had season seats for

894
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: forty seven years. They've had season seats for forty seven

895
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: years going into Game one, extremely pumped for their NBA

896
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: Finals experience, and dan Issel came by. The old dan

897
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: Issel Hall of Famer came by and they said hello

898
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 3: to him. Oh wow, because they've been there so long

899
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: that they know everybody who isl coached the team a

900
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: couple of times, had a bit of a controversy, and

901
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: then yeah, he was there for before Game one to

902
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 3: sort of reconcile. I don't think he had been seen

903
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 3: around the team in decades, essentially almost almost two two decades. Yeah,

904
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: where he was. He was fired for throwing a slur

905
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: unfortunately around while he was coaching the team and things

906
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: weren't going well. But he's back. Yeah. Somebody spotted Danissel

907
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: in that video I just talked about. We put together

908
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: a short about fans outside and how they would celebrate.

909
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: Somebody spotted him in the comments.

910
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: I thought, wow, he's just wandering in the background.

911
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he was kind of just he greeted this

912
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: the season seat holder, and somebody in our comments knew

913
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: who Dan Nissel was. I was very impressed by that.

914
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: I just wanted to mention.

915
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, ten ten, Okay, Yeah,

916
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers Also forty seven years in the NBA, we

917
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: got all these ABA teams we're talking about here in

918
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 2: the in the Nets and the Nuggets and the Pacers.

919
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: They've made the playoffs twenty seven times. Now. The Pacers

920
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: sort of like the Nets had ABA success. They won

921
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: three championships over like a decade span. So one the

922
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: ABA title never the NBA closest the Pacers ever got.

923
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: They lost to the Lakers in the two thousand finals

924
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: six games. It took a couple They couldn't stop Shack,

925
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: even though they had a million giant white guys trying

926
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: to slow them down and foul them. But Shack averaged

927
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: thirty eight and seventeen in the finals, though Reggie Miller

928
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: and Jalen Rose both averaged over twenty three points per

929
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: game in that finals. But yeah, getting there was the

930
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: best they've done. Two thousand Finals.

931
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: That was the team. Yes, Rick Smith's was trying to

932
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: deal with uh shack and not only the white guys,

933
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: but they you know, they threw out a the day.

934
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: They had a Davis back then, they had they had

935
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: Dale Davis. Back then, they had former NBA champ Jehan

936
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: Tobac Deep Deep on the roster. But uh, that was

937
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: an interesting team. That was that was That was a

938
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 3: fun squad that they got there.

939
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: So how close are the Pacers?

940
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 3: Interesting? So you got your tyres as you're number one. Yeah,

941
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: they've got some supporting cast around him. But how close

942
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 3: are they?

943
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean it.

944
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: Feels like they're sort of middle of the pack. Are

945
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: they higher than the nets?

946
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: Do?

947
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: I put them higher than a six? I mean they're

948
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: right there. I'll give a I'll give a six because

949
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm in such a good mood. Ben math I saw him.

950
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 3: Ben Mathern was out at the NBA Finals. I believe they.

951
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: Had a couple of these young players like doing finals media,

952
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: Like I've seen Jalen Williams for the Thunder, There's Mathern.

953
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: Who else was Rockets? Paolo Bonkaro will be there before

954
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: Game four, I guess.

955
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: And they're just like you like doing little interviews and

956
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So they get better access.

957
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do get better access. Yeah, they're exactly like me.

958
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: I was like, I was thinking the same thing. What

959
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: are they doing out there? They want some broadcasting experience.

960
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: I think it's just sort of like promotional stuff with

961
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: the league. Hey, get some of our young stars. So, yeah,

962
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: some FaceTime space basically what it was.

963
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Next team, Los Angeles Clippers. Fifty

964
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: three seasons in the NBA, starting back in seventy seventy

965
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: one as the Buffalo Braves, you know, playing in San Diego,

966
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: now in LA As a franchise, they've only made the

967
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: playoffs seventeen times fifty three years, fifty three seasons, ten

968
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: of them coming in the last twelve seasons though, So

969
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: this is like, you're a Clippers fan for fifty plus years,

970
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: you're living in the best moments of their franchise history.

971
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: Closest they ever got. This is interesting. The Lob City

972
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: Clips had some good teams, right, but they could never

973
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 2: even get to the conference finals, always coming up short.

974
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: And then we had the twenty twenty twenty one Clippers

975
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: under Tylu. They got to the Final four and they

976
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: lost to the Suns in six games, and that was

977
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: without Kawhi Leonard. He is injured in the second round

978
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: versus the Jazz. He had been averaging thirty points per

979
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: game in the postseason with like fifty seven, forty and

980
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: eighty eight shooting splits. I mean, it was like it

981
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: was like Raptors. Kawhi there, but he goes down and

982
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: they put up a valiant effort led by Paul George

983
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 2: against Suns, but they lose in six. But that's that's

984
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: the closest unless I'm forgetting a Lob City team that

985
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: you believe was better.

986
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: Were they better? Doc Rivers, I guess would say no,

987
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 3: that team could never win. It seemed like they had

988
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: so much talent though, and were just unable to get there.

989
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: I guess I'd say that team was the closest your

990
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: twenty one team that was able to get to the

991
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: conference finals even though Kawhi got hurt again. But they're

992
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: not close. I would say, now, even though they have

993
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: Kawhi and Paul George on their team, fool me once,

994
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: fool me four times, fool me six times. I ain't

995
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: gonna believe in this team. Okay, Yeah, I would say

996
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: below the other teams like Damian Lillard once said, no

997
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: good Clipper. You remember when he said that in commercial

998
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: Not really there was that ad anyway.

999
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So like THEO says, here, the Clippers will be

1000
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: the Clippers, So you have to say minus ten, all right,

1001
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: I think you guys are Yeah, and I'm the biggest

1002
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: Clipper doubt or there is, but I still have probably

1003
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: when we go through these teams, they do have some

1004
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: of the best talent, and they were there in the

1005
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: conference finals, not all that long ago. It's got to

1006
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: count for something. So put me ballpark five or six.

1007
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: Yes, and they started these playoffs all right against the Suns. Yeah,

1008
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: it was. It was a series without Paul George and

1009
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: then Kawhi goes down.

1010
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: So on a scale of one to ten, do you

1011
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: believe Kawhi Leonard can stay healthy for you know, two months?

1012
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: It's hard to believe that, right.

1013
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: Next team, Memphis Grizzlies twenty eight seasons in the NBA,

1014
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: first six spent in Vancouver, thirteen playoff appearances, a lot

1015
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: of them like the Clippers coming you know recently. Ten

1016
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: in the last thirteen seasons. Closest to grizz got one

1017
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals appearance in twenty twelve thirteen. So the

1018
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: team playoffs, they won fifty six games. They beat the

1019
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: Clippers and the Thunder, but then they got swept by

1020
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: the Spurs. They had no answer for Tony Parker and

1021
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: Zach Ranoff had a really bad series. Spurs defense got

1022
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: to get some credit for that. He shot thirty percent

1023
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: in that sweep to the Spurs. Zach Randoff did. So

1024
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: it's either that thirteen playoff run where they got to

1025
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: the conference finals or tasks last year's Grizzlies. Right, they

1026
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: lost in the Semis to the Warriors. John Morant only

1027
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: played three games Warriors going to win that title. I

1028
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: mean it's it's one of those squads. Oh interesting, Yeah,

1029
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: well it's a big it's a big one.

1030
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: If if Jaw was there, yeah, I.

1031
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: Mean took a couple of games off them, it hammered

1032
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: them in the one game.

1033
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: I'll give it back to the old grind City grizz

1034
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: that got there in the conference finals. I know it

1035
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: felt like they had a bit of a ceiling, but yeah,

1036
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: it's just never worked out perfectly for that team. But

1037
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: I think they had the talent.

1038
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now where would you put them on the scale.

1039
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: Oh how interesting is this?

1040
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, a team that can win a lot

1041
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: of regular season games has been in postseason runs now,

1042
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: but then there's this whole Ja Morant issue and what

1043
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: and how much that sets them back or not. We

1044
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: don't even know obviously what the suspension is.

1045
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: We do not We don't know what this team is

1046
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: looking forward like.

1047
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: Are they going to have like a complete right off

1048
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: season next year? Possible? But can they manage with it?

1049
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: I think they can? Yeah, they've they've done so well

1050
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: without him. What were they twenty one and four without

1051
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: him last season? Some ridiculous number. So yeah, even if

1052
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 3: he misses on the high end half a season, why

1053
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: can't they put it together to have a playoff run?

1054
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: I would put them in the upper echelon of teams

1055
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 3: that could win it. A seven. I think they're fairly close.

1056
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: I can buy that.

1057
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: I can buy that. You know, again, this is also

1058
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: thinking he's not going to be suspended the entire year

1059
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: unlike so he should play next year. Yeah, can they

1060
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: you know, keep their heads above water, if not, still

1061
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: exceed expectations like they have before, and then he comes back,

1062
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 2: there be a very very dangerous team.

1063
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 3: But interesting what they're going to do in the offseason too,

1064
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: because Dylan Brooks is not allowed to come back. So

1065
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: I just I wonder what will happen with that locker room,

1066
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: because that's a question too. Besides Morent not being there,

1067
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: are they going to be a blinche that has chemistry? Now,

1068
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: this is going to be difficult to come back from.

1069
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves Thirty four seasons in the league, eleven playoff appearances.

1070
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: The closest the Wolves got three to four, when they

1071
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: lost in the West Western Conference finals. KG had lost

1072
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: in the first round with the Wolves up until that

1073
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: point in seven consecutive seasons. I think about why that is.

1074
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: And then in three to four they win fifty eight games.

1075
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: Cag's MVP, he's, you know, the peak of his performance

1076
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: with Minnesota. They beat the Nuggets in five, they outlast

1077
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: the Kings and seven, and then they play the Lakers.

1078
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: It's always the Lakers. They lose in six in that series,

1079
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: but they put up a fight. I mean, you go

1080
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: look at that series. It's sort of funny. It's like

1081
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: Shaq and KG are sort of like matching each other.

1082
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: Kobe and spreedwell are sort of matching each other. Even

1083
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: like an old Gary Payton versus an older not older

1084
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: than GP, but older in his career, Sam Cassell. They're

1085
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: sort of matching each other. Karl ma Malone has like

1086
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: a really good game one, he disappears for a couple

1087
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: play solid in game six to close it out. He

1088
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: averaged twelve, ten and five. You know, this is an

1089
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: old Karl Malone on the Lakers there before getting injured.

1090
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a They're pretty damn close there, the

1091
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 2: Wolves losing in six to that Lakers team that would

1092
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: go on to then lose in the.

1093
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: Finals, and Sam Cassell's injury in the second round against

1094
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: the Sacramento Kings was Game seven where he got injured

1095
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 3: before they went to the conference finals against the Lakers.

1096
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 3: I think was big actually, and it wasn't him doing

1097
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 3: the big balls dance. It was him taking a shot.

1098
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: But he wasn't one hundred percent and he was a

1099
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: big part of that team. He should he should have

1100
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: been out playing Gary Payton, and he had. He was playing,

1101
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 3: you know, his best best ball of his career. They

1102
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: needed him desperately, and so I think that could have

1103
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: been different if he wasn't who.

1104
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: Would have won that finals let's say hypothetically Wolves healthy

1105
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: versus Pistons.

1106
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: The Pistons, Yeah, I guess the Pistons didn't seem like

1107
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: they could be stopped. Yeah, getting lots of Pistons vibes

1108
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: from this Heat team too that we're watching in the finals.

1109
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: Just team that doesn't buy a committee.

1110
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: And how close are the Wolves to win in a

1111
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: chip right now?

1112
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 3: Five point seven?

1113
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: Okay, it's interesting you think less than like a Nets team.

1114
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: To me, they got on par Yeah, you're right, you

1115
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: got a star and ant you do have? You might

1116
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: trade cat who knows?

1117
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I should flip somewhere there somewhere, Okay.

1118
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: The New Orleans Pelicans, now this is a weird one

1119
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: in terms of like their franchise. Basketball Reference has them

1120
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: as a franchise for twenty one seasons from two oh

1121
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: three to current year. There there's the weird, like the

1122
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: Charlotte you know what I mean, the New Orleans Hornets things.

1123
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: It's I'm always confused, like who takes those years? Is

1124
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: it the Pelicans or is it Charlotte? I think it's Charlotte.

1125
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: But anyway, New Orleans Pelicans have had nine postseason appearances

1126
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: if you count them losing in the play in game.

1127
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: Otherwise eight actual playoff runs. I forgot. We got to

1128
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: take that into consideration. Now the postseason playoffs. Yeah, it

1129
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: gets confusing. Anyway, the closest New Orleans has come to

1130
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: a chip, it's not all that close. Seven eight New

1131
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: Orleans Hornets, right, they lost to the Spurs in the

1132
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: second round, a valiant seven game series that they came

1133
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: up short. They had game seven at home, Paijo Stoyakovich.

1134
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: He went ice cold, shot three of eleven, rough, rough

1135
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: game from him as our lights are flickering here in

1136
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: the studio. So that was close. And then as the

1137
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: Pelicans close as they got was maybe twenty eighteen playoffs

1138
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: where they swept the Blazers, No that shock in the

1139
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: first round, and then they lost in five to the

1140
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: championship Durant Curry Warriors. So not all that close for

1141
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: either iterations of New Orleans Hornets or Pelicans.

1142
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I was looking this up because as you were saying,

1143
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: do the Charlotte Hornets get the old Charlotte Bobcats, old

1144
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: Charlotte Hornets history or does that belong to these Pelicans?

1145
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 3: So I was looking at the New Orleans Oklos Homa

1146
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: City Hornets and what ended up being Chris Paul's longest

1147
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: run sort of as a leader with that franchise, that

1148
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: second Round eight exit to the Spurs. They were up

1149
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: three to two in that series and they lost Game

1150
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: six and game seven. There you go, Chris Paul and

1151
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 3: David West making things happen there and couldn't get it done.

1152
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Is that series that was delayed? That one game that

1153
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: was delayed because one of the mascots maybe this maybe

1154
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: the coyote I don't remember, but knocked over like a

1155
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: ring of fire.

1156
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: On the floor. Was it Hugo the Hornet?

1157
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: Was it that?

1158
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 3: I just remember I remember he had.

1159
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: I think it was that series where a game was

1160
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: delayed because of that, but I don't know why. I

1161
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: don't even know if it was that series.

1162
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: It was between those two Teamsmber Hugo had a fire problem,

1163
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 3: but I don't remember if it was that series. Yeah,

1164
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: who gets the mascot history? Is it the Charlotte franchise? Anyways?

1165
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so the Pelicans and all that close where do

1166
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: you have them?

1167
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: Now? This is a tough one. Tough one because they

1168
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: have quite a high ceiling. It feels like when they're

1169
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: all playing, but quite a low floor too if they're not.

1170
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: But six, okay, seven, hopefully on a good day.

1171
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder now again. Sonics won the seventy nine

1172
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: NBA Finals. They won the Chip before they moved and

1173
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: became the Thunder.

1174
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: But you're saying or Seattle's getting another team.

1175
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and once they do, I think then all

1176
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: the history just of course goes back to them, and

1177
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: okay see, its own thing. But they've spent fifteen seasons

1178
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: in Oka.

1179
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: See.

1180
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: They've made the playoffs ten times, postseason eleven times if

1181
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: you count the play in tournament from this year. It's

1182
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: a hell of a percentage when you think of it, like,

1183
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: they've always had pretty damn good teams there, and okay see,

1184
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: closest they got they lost the twenty twelve NBA Finals

1185
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: to the Miami Heatles in five games. They were close.

1186
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: They were twelve and three headed into that finals, so

1187
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: they were rolling and they took game one, they maybe

1188
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: could have taken Game two. A bit of a controversial

1189
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: call there, that's right, touchbowl KD on Lebron and you

1190
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: know they lose. And that's the only finals appearance. So

1191
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 2: they've had a few other conference finals appearances, and maybe

1192
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: if it's not Game six Clay, you know, with all

1193
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: those shots against them, maybe they go to the finals

1194
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: and put up a fight against the comeback haves there

1195
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: and Lebron's team, and they battle again Katie and Lebron's possible.

1196
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: So they've had a few chances, but the closest obviously

1197
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: making it to the twenty twelve finals.

1198
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he made a decent case for the

1199
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen team being even closer, even if Kate doesn't

1200
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: Clay doesn't shoot the lights out in Game six, because

1201
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: then they have at least some experience going into the finals,

1202
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: you know, being there would have been their second finals,

1203
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: as opposed to twenty twelve, where it just seemed like

1204
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: they're a little too young, didn't have the experience to

1205
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: be there. But yeah, a very accomplished team, even though

1206
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: they haven't won it.

1207
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 2: How close are they now?

1208
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 3: They're damn close?

1209
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: Whoa I mean, you're saying you could see oka see

1210
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: getting to the finals at least in the next three years.

1211
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you know, it's a little presumptuous, but they

1212
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 3: are they on par with like a Memphis. I don't

1213
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 3: think they're that far off right, so something like in

1214
01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: that ballpark.

1215
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying seventy eight seven Orlando Magic part

1216
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: of eighty nine expansions. So they've been in the NBA

1217
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: for thirty four seasons, sixteen playoff appearances to show for it,

1218
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: though they haven't been out of the first round in

1219
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: a long time. There in Orlando, closest they got. There's

1220
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: a few teams you can make the case for the

1221
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: fifty nine win Magic lost the two thousand and nine

1222
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: finals to the Kobe lad Lakers in five games. They

1223
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: lost four to one. Though they were that Orlando team

1224
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: one of the rare teams to knock off a Lebron

1225
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: squad in the Eastern Conference, so they did do that

1226
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 2: before losing to Kobe. And then you could go back

1227
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: to the ninety five Magic who made the finals, but

1228
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: they got swept in four in that finals against the Rockets.

1229
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: The next year, that Magic team won sixty games and

1230
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: then they got swept by MJ's seventy two win Bolls

1231
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: in the conference finals. So good, good teams there back

1232
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: in the nineties, led by Shack and Penny, and then

1233
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: obviously that nine iteration with Dwight Howard and you know

1234
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: Turkle and Jamier and Richard Lewis and those guys. JJ,

1235
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: I guess was on that team, right, which one did

1236
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: you pick?

1237
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: Oh? That nine team? Yeah, yeah, they could have won

1238
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: game two. They lost Game one to the Lakers and

1239
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: Courtney Lee missed that lay up at the end of

1240
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: Game two, I do believe, and then so they they

1241
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: could have stolen home court advantage and gone back to

1242
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: Orlando at one piece, but they went back to Orlando

1243
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 3: down two. Oh, so that was Yeah, they went into

1244
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: overtime that game too because Corney Lee missed the right Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1245
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: the inbound it's a nice drop by stan Van Gundy.

1246
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: And if it's one one going back to Orlando, then

1247
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: it's a different story. But the only one one at home,

1248
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was done.

1249
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: Somebody needs to fact check me. But I feel like

1250
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: that was the last NBA Finals where we had that

1251
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: giant Larry O'Brian really kl yeah, I think so. I

1252
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: don't think we saw it after that fact checked me

1253
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: on that. Yeah, it's been a while. And how close

1254
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: to the magic I mean, they got the number one

1255
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 2: pick in Pollo Rookie of the Year. They got two

1256
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: picks this year. Are they gonna package those together, move

1257
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: up the other player.

1258
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: Or at least the six Okay, it's high, Hi.

1259
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: I mean they need to have some postseason success here. Yeah,

1260
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: get into it.

1261
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 3: They haven't been there.

1262
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: Haven't been there, and they haven't won a first round,

1263
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: like I said, in a long time. And the final

1264
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: team Phoenix Suns fifty five seasons in the league, thirty

1265
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: two playoff appearances. This one also up for debate the

1266
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: closest they ever got. It's either the recent Suns that

1267
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: lost in the twenty twenty one finals to the Bucks

1268
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: in six, a series in which they had a two

1269
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: to oh series lead probably should have won Game four

1270
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: as well, where they have a bad, bad fourth quarter.

1271
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: So it's that, or do you want to go with

1272
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: the six oh seven Sons that lose in the semifinals

1273
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: to the eventual champion Spurs and that features the infamous

1274
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: Robert or body checking Nash moment that leads to the

1275
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: Amari and Boris Dia suspensions for Game five. Sons lose

1276
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: that one by three points and then they fall in

1277
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: Game six. Uh, you know, the Spurs went on to

1278
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: beat the Jazz and five, and then they swept the

1279
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: young Lebron Calves in four. Could that have been the Suns?

1280
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: A lot of people think so if they get by

1281
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: the Spurs there, so it's.

1282
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: One of those two teams or Barkley in the finals

1283
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: by in the finals.

1284
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: Good points. I totally forgot about that one.

1285
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, three then, yeah, because it seems like I completely

1286
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 3: blanked on that one. The team, Yeah, didn't perform enough

1287
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: around Charles in nineteen ninety three with the MVP leading

1288
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: the way there. So there's that one. But the up too,

1289
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 3: oh against the Andes and the Bucks. Yeah, that was close.

1290
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: That one.

1291
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: That is like, I know that didn't happen all that

1292
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: long ago. It caught me by surprisingly. I always forget

1293
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: they were leading to Oh.

1294
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: Tray Kerby always remembers when Chris Paul gives up a

1295
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 3: series lead like that.

1296
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: Bad. That's pretty bad. And again, I mean, okay, you're

1297
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: up to Game four. I just think they had a

1298
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: complete You'd have to check it, but I think they

1299
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: had a shitty, shitty fourth quarter and the Bucks were

1300
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 2: on fire, and like that, they were up. They had

1301
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: that game in control, and so they're about to take

1302
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: a three one series lead and they lose it, and

1303
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: it's to two and obviously lose the next two.

1304
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: They lost the fourth quarter by twelve points and they

1305
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 3: lost the game by six points, so they're up going in.

1306
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: The fourth Yep, yep, yep, yep. Oh I forgot one team.

1307
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. No Utah Jazz forty nine seasons in the NBA,

1308
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: A few of the early years in No. Leins thirty

1309
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: one playoff appearances close as they got. Well, this one's easy.

1310
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: Ninety seven ninety eight they lost in the finals to

1311
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: the Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls, excuse me, the Scottie Pippen

1312
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: Cargo Bulls, and of the two ninety eight the real

1313
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: kick in the nuts because they won Game one, so

1314
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: they have a lead in that series. You know, if

1315
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: Karl Malone doesn't get strapped by MJ, they potentially win

1316
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: Game six because MJ does you know, get a chance

1317
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: to hit the push off jumper over Russell to end

1318
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: the series. So maybe they forced a Game seven. Anything

1319
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: could happen. Could U to have won it? Who knows?

1320
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: Probably not? But yeah close. So now you seven ninety

1321
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: eight losing back to back finals to the same team.

1322
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: Can't get much closer than that.

1323
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: TESK absolutely not. The mailman did not deliver. That was

1324
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: just looking it up. I didn't remember it, so I

1325
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: had to look it up. The mailman didn't deliver in

1326
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: Game one of the ninety seven finals when he went

1327
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: to the line in Scottie Pippen, Scottie Pippen's bulls got

1328
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 3: in his ear and said, the mailman doesn't deliver on Sundays.

1329
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: In ninety eight, they should have had mail service on

1330
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: Sundays in Utah. That would have been funny.

1331
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: That could have been funny.

1332
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: The mail man's going to deliver, you know, for two

1333
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: weeks or whatever.

1334
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: He didn't.

1335
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: He didn't know.

1336
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: I mean, well, he played okay, but obviously that strip

1337
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: was brutal, that bad, bad turnover with like fourteen seconds ago,

1338
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: they're leading, they're leading that game six, Yeah, they win

1339
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: that again, anything could happen in a game seven, so

1340
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: real close and this like, I mean yeah, people are

1341
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 2: saying here in the chat like the Utah Jazz had

1342
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: really really good teams and they probably win a ring

1343
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: if they don't run into the bulls. And you can

1344
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: say that for a lot of teams, but that is

1345
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: why they're on the list here. Twelve teams NBA teams

1346
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: that have won a championship. Seven of those twelve teams

1347
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: have made the finals and lost. I thought that was interesting.

1348
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: Three of them have had two cracks at it, the Jazz,

1349
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 2: the Nets, and the Orlando Magic and the Sun excuse

1350
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: me four. I don't know why I forgot about the

1351
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: ninety three finals. The Hornets and Pelicans have never made

1352
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: the conference finals. And my final note in just doing

1353
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 2: this list for everybody, Durant played on three of these

1354
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: teams or currently plays on the third team. The Thunder

1355
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: obviously got close the Nets Okay, not all that close,

1356
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: not making into the finals, but that game seven foot

1357
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: too big. And then now the Suns, so he will

1358
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: be trying for the third time. Is my point here

1359
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: in his career to take a team to the Promised

1360
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: Land and bring them a ship. Couldn't do it in Okay,

1361
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: see damn close, couldn't do it in Brooklyn, trying here

1362
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 2: with the Phoenix Suns.

1363
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,480
Speaker 3: And he's never going to go back to a franchise

1364
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 3: that had won championships.

1365
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh I guess it could, yeah.

1366
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: But he likes it better when he's because the Golden

1367
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: States scenario didn't feel like it was his title, right,

1368
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: I mean that was a little different. You know, it's

1369
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 3: a really recent championship that he went to. But I

1370
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 3: think that's you know, he likes it more when he

1371
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: can bring a franchise its first championship.

1372
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: Well, you got to the problem with that is you

1373
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: got to bring the team the first championship.

1374
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's problem.

1375
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: That's the part he's trying to do. It's hard, very difficult. Anyway,

1376
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: had some fun put together there the twelve teams that

1377
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: haven't won an NBA championship. Let me know if you

1378
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, disagree with any of those closest teams that

1379
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: I ultimately picked for some of those squads. We're gonna

1380
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: take our final break when we come back. We got

1381
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: two tweets of the night. Don't go anywhere. Hey, you're

1382
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: back with the guy here in the Classic Factory. Let's

1383
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: get to tweeted the night.

1384
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: Oh, tweet o the night. Wow.

1385
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: I got two tweets of the night, one NBA related

1386
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 2: one nut first one from at ESPN Stats and Info.

1387
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: The Heat have been outscored by twenty four points over

1388
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: the first three quarters of this postseason. But check this out, tasks.

1389
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: They're plus ninety in the fourth quarter, plus ninety that's

1390
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: currently the third best fourth quarter point differential in a

1391
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: singles playoffs in NBA history. So the Seven Calves were

1392
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: a plus ninety nine, the twenty twenty Heat plus ninety four,

1393
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: and now currently this Miami Heat team plus ninety in

1394
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter.

1395
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 3: This nuts, It is nuts. It's very difficult to really

1396
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: define what Heat culture is.

1397
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: Apparently it's this is a fourth quarter.

1398
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's be extremely well trained. They do not

1399
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: be fatigable. You can't get tired. Pat Riley will come

1400
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: up to you check your your body fat at the

1401
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: beginning camp. You better be ready to go. It's these

1402
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: resilient squads. That's interesting. Seven cat it was interesting that

1403
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: they were great in the fourth quarter, but then they

1404
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 3: got hammered in the finals, getting swept the twenty twenty Heat.

1405
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 3: There you go. This is Heat culture and if they

1406
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: can pull this off, be the first champ. I guess

1407
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: from this list.

1408
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: I've seen some people comparing the third quarter Warriors. Remember

1409
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: they would always just run away from teams in that

1410
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: third quarter during some of their championship runs. That's what

1411
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: the Heat do here in their fourth quarters, at least

1412
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 2: through these playoffs. Plus ninety and we got games to

1413
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: be played here second tweet it's got nothing to do

1414
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: with basketball. I just had to get your opinion on it,

1415
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: everybody out there. At Tara Sloan, I believe, was the

1416
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: person that tweeted it. She tweeted it with the photo.

1417
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: He stores cups and glasses upside down. I store them

1418
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: right side up. Neither of us will budge who is

1419
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: right and why is it me? And here is the

1420
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: photo of the coffee mugs in the cupboard, some you

1421
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: know down as if you were trapping something underneath it,

1422
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: and some just you know up tasks how does the

1423
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: Melice household do this? Or are you like Tara here

1424
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: and her significant other and you're both you're doing both.

1425
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 3: I know you wouldn't be able to do that. I'm

1426
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 3: going to assume that you wouldn't be able to have

1427
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: a cupboard with both. I would ye. Yes. I like

1428
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: challenging myself. I don't want it to look like this,

1429
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: but like in my closet, I like to throw shirts backwards,

1430
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: facing opposite directions and try and force myself not to

1431
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 3: touch them.

1432
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: I can do that too. It doesn't bother me. Yeah,

1433
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: you would think it would, but doesn't. Okay, cool, they're

1434
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: not all perfectly facing the right direction and hanger and

1435
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: all that.

1436
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 3: No, Okay, cups, man cups, cups, back to the cups.

1437
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: I'm definitely like, uh, like Tara herself, face up, I

1438
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: don't need to.

1439
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 2: Face you don't want to pretend you live in a diner.

1440
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: They're face down.

1441
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: Keep the dust out.

1442
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what people say. I guess you could make

1443
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 2: another argument for why you want them face down. You

1444
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: can stack them better, because then you could.

1445
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 3: I like stacking them face up though.

1446
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 2: Oh, like a cup and cup type of thing.

1447
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 3: You get different size cups that.

1448
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: Though a mug you can't do that with the handle generally.

1449
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: No, I guess I'm doing smaller cups within a mug

1450
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: because I got different size mugs, espresso mug cups.

1451
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 2: Okay, that's totally.

1452
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 3: Danielle has made different types of sizes of mugs. So

1453
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 3: a stacker, I guess. I guess I think Tar's just

1454
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: showing off her mugs. Those are nice muggs.

1455
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: These are nice mugs, nice ceramics in the mix. There.

1456
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm a cup down though. What are you doing at

1457
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: your household? Are you arguing about it with your wife?

1458
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 4: No, it's cubs down, especially for mugs.

1459
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: And so why though the dust factor, I think that's

1460
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing. How dusty is your house?

1461
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I think everybody says this as a reason.

1462
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, we used to have a dog,

1463
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,879
Speaker 4: so like the dog, like it's everywhere, the hair is everywhere,

1464
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,879
Speaker 4: like you have cupboards.

1465
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 2: I know, I gotta understand. Okay, okay, you.

1466
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

1467
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but you like you generally, if

1468
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: I looked right now, they're down.

1469
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 4: Off of memory right now. Oh boy, take a photo

1470
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 4: to that. Actually you know what they're like this. They're

1471
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 4: kind of up and down. And some of the cups

1472
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 4: I did, I did it. This is yesterday, So some

1473
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 4: of the cups, the plastic cups are upside down. Some

1474
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 4: of the mugs are kind of mismatched.

1475
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: So I I'm gonna have to look tonight because I

1476
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: think we might have both going on as well, depending

1477
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: on the cups, depending on the space. But a coffee

1478
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: mug I don't mine down because you could put another

1479
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: one on top because of the base. So I guess

1480
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: just like that's risk and like I think people out

1481
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: there have way too many coffee mugs.

1482
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I know, I do, I do.

1483
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: Why why do we have fifteen coffee buks? Now? Everybody

1484
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: should go to uh dot com get theirselves a great

1485
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: coffee mug. Now, this is a beautiful coffee mug. This

1486
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 2: is a good morning, sweet world. You can get this

1487
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: in the eleven ounce of fifteen ounces. It's not the

1488
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: great mugs. But right, you got too many mugs?

1489
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I brought a couple here because I was

1490
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: trying to get rid of it.

1491
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: That's smart. I'm gonna bring somebody.

1492
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they what Jad's yelling? I thought

1493
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 3: you JD's yelling. Please don't. I thought you put out

1494
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 3: a call saying that we don't have enough mugs because

1495
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: they're breaking around here.

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Speaker 2: You'll say that he did say that.

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Speaker 3: I've got think he's a little too.

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Speaker 2: Rough with mugs at this house.

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Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred percent bad.

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Speaker 3: He's taking over the mic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, listen. I don't like this topic. It's very

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 5: triggering for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and so what do you do? Well, my wife won't.

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Speaker 5: Throw away any mugs. I just wanted to have branded

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01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 5: mugs for the studio, which we are running out of

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Speaker 5: because they get smashed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how are they smashing?

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Speaker 5: You know, Rachel filled the dishwasher with bread because she

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Speaker 5: wants the kids to wash dishes.

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Speaker 2: Fine bread. Yeah you just said, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yes, bread is in my dishwasher because she's keeping the bread.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 5: We have a very tiny kitchen. She keeps the bread

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Speaker 5: in the dishwasher, well, perfectly fine dishwasher. The kids wash

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Speaker 5: dishes by hands because we want to teach them how

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Speaker 5: to do chores right. But they're too rough with the mugs.

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Speaker 5: So it's just it's I live with mad people. This

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Speaker 5: so yeah, the mugs in our thing is up and

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Speaker 5: down every which way, stacked like chaos. You are on space,

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 5: short on space, but not short on mugs, just random mugs.

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Speaker 5: So don't bring me your random mugs. We'll get some

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Speaker 5: classic factory mugs in here. And that's and that's it.

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Speaker 2: I would love to have a coffee in one of

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Speaker 2: those mugs. Cut ourselves in a nice slice of dishwasher bread.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's the hamburger beuns. There's some bread. There's a

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Speaker 5: rye bread. We've got some sandwich bread. This is amazing,

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Speaker 5: sucking full of anyways, Okay, carry on, upset.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my brother's house also used the dishwasher as storage space.

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Speaker 2: As a cold cellar.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what you guys are saying.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: Actually it was confusing because there are plates in there.

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Speaker 3: It was like it was like drawers essentially for for Oh.

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Speaker 2: Wow, fascinating. All right, Well, I'm glad. I glad I

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Speaker 2: included this in the second What a Long podcast? I

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Speaker 2: thought this was gonna be our show to show short

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Speaker 2: show of the week. Nope, nope, nope. Guys, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us live. Hit that like button.

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Speaker 2: Oh tonight, Game three of the NBA Finals. We'll be

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Speaker 2: on playback at eight thirty pm Eastern. That link is

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Speaker 2: for that. Hopefully we can talk to Trey Kirby live

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Speaker 2: from the arena at least during halftime, so come hang

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Speaker 2: o with us a little second screen experience. Otherwise, enjoy

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Speaker 2: the game. We'll be back tomorrow to break it all

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Speaker 2: down at ten o'clock am ten o'clock am, ten am.

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Speaker 2: This has been too long, clubber bros. You heard it

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Speaker 2: here first. Have a great time turn up. Love you

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Speaker 2: guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us and remember join us tonight.

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Speaker 2: What do you like us at so, he said, like

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Speaker 2: the VID for dishwasher bread.

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Speaker 3: There's the quote right there.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the Fay people,