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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. It is Monday, August sixteen, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: Season seventeen, episode number nine. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break. I'm joined by Nick Eatman Dave Hellman.

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Speaker 1: We're talking some Cowboys football with you guys for the

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Speaker 1: next forty five minutes, maybe an hour, depending on how

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Speaker 1: these guys go. H. We got a lot of topics.

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Speaker 1: But y'all just amused because there's a camera. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because there's a no just video. Nick loves looking at

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Speaker 1: the monitor. But also I'm I look even shorter than

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Speaker 1: I was mentioning. Just doesn't care, doesn't care. You should

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Speaker 1: be showing off the haircut. You got the fresh yet cut. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Put me on the little yeah the front, yeah, cleaned

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Speaker 1: what I mean, people don't. This is not a face

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Speaker 1: for TV, like they put me on TV because I'm here.

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Speaker 1: But let's be honest. So all right, this works. I

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Speaker 1: think it looks good. You got a good haircut. It

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Speaker 1: looks good on you. Let's jump in. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: this game. Cowboys lose to the Arizona Cardinals nineteen to

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Speaker 1: sixteen preseason games. So wins and losses really don't matter.

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Speaker 1: But what does matter is how how how the team played.

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Speaker 1: And before we get to how the team's team played,

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Speaker 1: I think what matters most is how healthy are you

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Speaker 1: once the game is done. Let's start with Neville Gallimore.

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Speaker 1: Tell me where he is, what's going on with his injury,

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Speaker 1: for what it looked like, it's probably a best case

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Speaker 1: me he was done for the year based on what

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Speaker 1: You know, four or five games is worse. But they

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Speaker 1: think there's needs a lot of game planning involved. It's

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Speaker 1: Because yeah, but the but the thing is that that

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Speaker 1: He may not, but I'm saying he has. Imagine what

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Speaker 1: that right, So I think that's the way I look

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Speaker 1: it's his first game ever. Two more bad snaps in

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the offensive line, in particularly that

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Speaker 1: we doing it well? Drew Pearson will be in there

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say yes, I absolutely I I

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Speaker 1: And then to push off and he pumped face, you know,

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Speaker 1: more about that game in that play in Drew Pearson's

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Speaker 1: whole team that we have there, But it was really

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Speaker 1: They absolutely crushed it. And coming up next week, we're

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Speaker 1: just getting started. Coming up next we got Darren Woodson's

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Speaker 1: story that'll be coming out this Saturday night or Saturday

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Speaker 1: where you can watch all those other things. As that

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlierhere. You can watch the practice tonight, but

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Speaker 1: again check those out Deep Blue documentaries. We'll be running

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Speaker 1: fourth throughout the preseason this year. Some really really good storytelling.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump back into our conversation we were

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Speaker 1: We wanted to talk about Dak Prescott coming out of camp.

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Speaker 1: He had been injured. He mentioned there before we left

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Speaker 1: he was progressing really well. He was going to have

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Speaker 1: a n m R when he got back to Dallas,

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Speaker 1: just to make sure everything's progressing. Well. What did they

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Speaker 1: find when they did the MRI. Least surprising thing ever,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know this for sure, but I know

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Speaker 1: Dak decently well by this point. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: we waiting? What are no Like? Isn't a machine? It's

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Speaker 1: a machine right over there? Right? Yeah, So this sounds

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Speaker 1: like McCarthy's that way too, watching that one episode of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's like, whatever, Yeah, let's go, let's get started on this.

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Speaker 1: If this is going to if this is going to

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Speaker 1: affect me and my team again, let's find out now, right,

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Speaker 1: the indication is that it won't. Um, he had the MRI.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like everything's good, he's healing up. Um, there's

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody knows if he'll actually play on

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Speaker 1: to see how he handles some work, see if he

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Speaker 1: try to get him, you know, six to ten snaps

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Speaker 1: don't know right now, because you got to see how

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Speaker 1: they would like to do that. Yeah, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: my suspicion is, you guys feel pretty good that he

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Speaker 1: traveled to Tampa Bay. Always have yes. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's that's been the goal and that's the only I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's the only goal, but it's the

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Speaker 1: it's the main goal. And if if they can get

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Speaker 1: in a couple of snaps in preseason, fine, but you

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Speaker 1: know they'll be they'll be fine without it. Just like

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Speaker 1: to reiterate my position, as long as we're doing this,

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Speaker 1: somebody somebody like, you know, they had that rash of injuries,

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Speaker 1: like four guys got hurt in twenty minutes on Friday night,

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Speaker 1: and somebody on Twitter was like, are we sure we

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Speaker 1: want Dak to play in the preseason. I was like,

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Speaker 1: absolutely the hell not. No, we don't. I mean the

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Speaker 1: coaches might, and Dak might. But if if snap one

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Speaker 1: against Shaquille Barrett and damackin Sue Is, if that's the

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Speaker 1: first snap of his season, that's a okay with me.

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Speaker 1: As long as he's ready for it. Yeah, that's one

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Speaker 1: thing I learned from Hard Knocks. That's a very intense guy.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like not playing, so they're having to hold

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Speaker 1: him back. For his own good. You needed to see

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Speaker 1: that to know well, I mean, I know, well, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't conduct himself that way in the media. That's the difference.

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Speaker 1: The difference is I knew that Dak wanted to be

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Speaker 1: that that the That was the part that was I

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Speaker 1: think a revelation for me, because that's not who he

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Speaker 1: is off the field, right, You gotta be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an a hole to be great at that.

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Speaker 1: I mean to be great at anything really, probably, but

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the backup quarterbacks. Nick, you wrote an

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Speaker 1: seven of sixteen or forty four percent completion percentage. He

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Speaker 1: had eighty yards passing. His rating was fifty nine point four.

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Speaker 1: being said, and I know you wrote the article, tell

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Speaker 1: me what the I guess the point of your article

637
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: and what you're thinking right now at the backup quarterback. Well,

638
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: if they're always going to keep looking for everything, and

639
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if he was, if it was one

640
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: fifty eight point three was the rating, they're going to

641
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: always look to see if there's something better, and they're

642
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: going to continue to do that, and they're going to

643
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: continue to look at the waiver wire. I don't feel

644
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: like there's going to be a lot of options that

645
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: are better than what they have. So I feel like

646
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: he's going to be the backup. And I thought he

647
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: played well in that game. I thought he was putting

648
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: in some very uncomfortable situations and I thought he did

649
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: a really nice job handling himself there. He didn't get

650
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: a lot of help. You expect your center to get

651
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: the ball back to you. Two instances that he didn't,

652
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: he still managed to kind of, you know, salvage it

653
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Speaker 1: and make a play. And you know, Army crawled here

654
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: and got up and threw it and all that. And

655
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Speaker 1: then he steps in the pocket on another play and

656
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: throws it over the middle to Michael Gallup and Gallop

657
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: missed the ball. You know, he catches that ball like

658
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: he should, and you know they're in a much different

659
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: situation in that drive. I think he can get it

660
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: down to probably the ten yard liner, So we'll see

661
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: what happens there. I thought he did a nice job

662
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: there and I don't feel like there's gonna be a

663
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: lot of other options there. Um, when it's time to

664
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: to change it out. They're giving him the chance to

665
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: win the job, and I think he's going to do that.

666
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I think you are. I think he already has. Remember

667
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: he's not going to lose it to somebody that's on

668
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: this team. And oh he's not. He's not going to No,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I was laughing because I don't

670
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: even think that's close. It's not like I don't know

671
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: about other guys out there, but I don't think that's

672
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: even close. Cooper Rush has he's looked all right. Um.

673
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a clear difference in arm talent when

674
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: he's out there, like if he if he if he's

675
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: got to throw it outside the numbers, it doesn't It

676
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: doesn't look great in my opinion, just in terms of

677
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: getting it there with the speed and accuracy that it needs. Yeah,

678
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw one more thing in there.

679
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Too like, and I wrote this that I don't care

680
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: who you are in the league. I don't care if

681
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: you won Super Bowls, Pro Bowls, whatever, You're not making

682
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: a better throw to Cedric Wilson on the right side.

683
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: You're not gonna. I mean, like that is in his arsenal.

684
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: We'd know that he'd made a throw like that and

685
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: his first started to Amari Cooper and against Pittsburgh. He

686
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: can do that, and so you know, he reminds me

687
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of Jason Garrett in the way, even

688
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: though Garrett's he's taller and he's got a better arm.

689
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: But as far as you know, good deep ball touch,

690
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: will stay ready, very smart, understands what he's doing. That's

691
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: kind of what you want out of a backup y.

692
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: I think more than anything, he just looks comfortable, and

693
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: that's that's the best thing you can ask for. Probably, Yeah,

694
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: And it was actually it was the play we talked

695
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: about earlier that some were calling a drop by Noah Brown,

696
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: like to get that ball off the feet, like off

697
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: the carpet, maneuver around all the garbage and still get

698
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: an accurate throw off. It was very impressive. It was

699
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: an incompletion and I thought it was probably the most

700
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: impressive play of his night. Yeah. No, he just he

701
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: is leaps and bounds better than the other two guys

702
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: on this team. And you know, I keep saying his name,

703
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: but there's no interest in Blake Bortles. Clearly or else

704
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: something would have happened by now because he's just sitting

705
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: out there. He might even be back in Green Bay

706
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: soon because Jordan loves Hurt, So I don't think there's

707
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: anybody available right now that they like more. And when

708
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: you talk about quarterbacks like yeah, people bring up the

709
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: situation in Chicago, but it's hard for me to imagine

710
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: them trading for a salary like that. Maybe if one

711
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: of those guys gets released, maybe, But if I had

712
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: to bet on it, I would say Garret Gilbertville. Yeah,

713
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: I look at a backup quarterback, and to me, a

714
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: backup quarterback just needs to if everyone else around him

715
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: can pick it up. When you lose your starter, they

716
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: give you a chance to win. And that's what would

717
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: have to happen. You've got all these this talent on

718
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: this offense, they'd have to step up. And I think

719
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: if you would have given him the two starting tackles

720
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: in the game that he played last year, I think

721
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: that may have ended up being a different game. I mean,

722
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: I thought he played a decent game for what the

723
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: situation is placed in. So yeah, I think I've seen

724
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: enough to where I feel like he can be a

725
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: solid backup for you. And what you have to do is, again,

726
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: if if Dad goes down, everybody else is gonna have

727
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: to play better in order to make sure that you

728
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: have even a chance. But I think if everybody else

729
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: can play better, then I think he'll give you a chance.

730
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I still think this is not

731
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: a good backup quarterback situation, like you think again team,

732
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: you know the Saints. How many teams have those, and

733
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: it's only it's only five or six that ever feel

734
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: good about it. It's either if you have a first

735
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: round pick that's not starting yet like the Packers or

736
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: maybe the Bears forty nine ers, or if you luck

737
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: into an amazing situation like the Cowboys did with Andy

738
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: last year. Or you know, the Saints had Teddy Bridgewater

739
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: when he was trying to resurrect his career, Like you

740
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: need good fortune to have that situation. That being said,

741
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys have it right now. I mean,

742
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert's fine, He's definitely better than what's available. Oh

743
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't feel great about this situation, but

744
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: given that they don't seem likely to do anything about it,

745
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: I feel okay. Well, it's shortsighted too for any fan

746
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: to think that, you know, something's not going to give.

747
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: When you give a guy forty million dollars a year

748
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: at that position, you have to give something. And that's

749
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: and you're you're banking on him to be great. You're

750
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: banking on him to be one of the best quarterbacks

751
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the league, if not the best.

752
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: That's what they're that's what they're hoping for, that's what

753
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: that's what they paid him to do. So you can't

754
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: really you just don't have a lot of money in

755
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: resources to do anything other than that. And they're hoping

756
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: to lucky. Dave said, luck into it. A guy that's

757
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: been around seven years and he's got three starts, I mean,

758
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: but hopefully the experience of being around in different systems

759
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: will get him ready to play. All right, we're gonna

760
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, I want

761
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: to talk about the center position. Cowboys are not calling

762
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: it a competition. We saw Connor Williams start at center

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: in this last game, and I want to ask these

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00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,960
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765
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: think it's just a situation where they're trying to get

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Speaker 1: with it. I mean, okay, it's like practice squad chirping

826
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Speaker 1: at QB one. Okay, it's like when the little kid

827
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Speaker 1: runs up to you and you just gotta hold them.

828
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: Like that's like the young man during during training camp.

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Speaker 1: Disbelieve Kurt would talk like that. Well, Kurt was the

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Speaker 1: only one, wasn't there, He probably would have talked some

831
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Speaker 1: of made headlines for talking about no fly zone, airplane

834
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Speaker 1: mode and all that. Somebody asked Dak about it and

835
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I don't think he's gotten a

836
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Speaker 1: chance to go against me and my guys, so you know,

837
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Speaker 1: maybe he should do that before he runs his mouth

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00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: more or less. I mean I'm paraphrasing basically, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: same energy. I just didn't know if you guys heard

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Speaker 1: but I mean it was just, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: just interesting me if they had something to say a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We'll see what

844
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846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: Got no problem with competition whatsoever. I told him they

847
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: should listen in to the break more often. Maybe he'll

848
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: get some pointers. All right, let's get back in. We

849
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: do need to talk about the offensive line, particularly the

850
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: interior part of the offensive line. This last game, Connor

851
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Williams started at center, and I keep seeing a lot

852
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: of media guys they're talking about this and they're like cowboys,

853
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: keeps saying this is not a competition. This certainly looks

854
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: like a competition. And as I was watching, I was

855
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Okay, so basically what they want me

856
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: to believe is that the center, the starting center, who

857
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: was only in his second year and didn't even start

858
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: all of last year, is so good that they're like,

859
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: we got to take all these stamps and give them

860
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: to the backup because we got to get him ready.

861
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: Rather than making sure the starter is ready. It doesn't

862
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 1: seem to make sense to me. You guys make sense

863
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: for me. I actually can't. Well, I'll try. I don't

864
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: think it's a competition, and Connor's showing you that himself.

865
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, four bad snaps in maybe twenty preseason opportunity.

866
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's that ain't good. But you don't think

867
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: that they should be giving those snaps. I would think

868
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: start a quarterback hasn't played yet. Like, I don't care

869
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: what Bodis does with Karret Gilbert. I care. I care

870
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: less about well, I shouldn't say that I will make it.

871
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: I care about the snap just as much as I

872
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: care about what happens after the snap. I'm going to

873
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: lose my Jalen Smith bet to you in already, so

874
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: I want to lose the behandah bet so very well.

875
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's make a rubber bet. Let's make a

876
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: rubber match bet right now. If Dak plays against Houston,

877
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: beatas will be the center. That's well, it's also coming

878
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: off a game whereas you just say Connor head too.

879
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and here's what makes it make

880
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: even less sense. It's not a competition that they're like

881
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: Connor might be better than Tyler. It is a holy crap.

882
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: Connors never played center in a game. We gotta get

883
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: him out there exactly, which I mean it takes you

884
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: all we were we've been talking about huh's end you

885
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: don't I mean the Giants technically have his rights he retired.

886
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that's a coincidence. You should think again, seriously,

887
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: we've I mean, that's that's next level stuff. But I

888
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: think from what I was told that there's a reason

889
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: why that happened. So maybe they should have signed him. Yeah,

890
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean they could have done. I this is you know,

891
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: in a lot of instances, we don't know as much

892
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: as they do. But it goes back to the Zach

893
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Martin fantasy football tackle thing. It still misses you off.

894
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: It always will. Don't to quote my father, don't pee

895
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: down my leg and tell me it's raining, like I'm

896
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: not stupid. Um. And it's the same thing. Like all spring,

897
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: we're like, there's not really another center on this team.

898
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Kind of weird. Huh No, that's not a big deal.

899
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: They get to training camp, they're like, oh, I want

900
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: to say the S words so bad, but I'm not

901
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: going to. Oh crap, nobody else here really does this,

902
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: and and now we're just trying to piece it together

903
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: as we go, and not even with the guy that

904
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: played center in college when there are two on the

905
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: team that did that well. But McGovern did this for

906
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: a year and Farniac's done it in spot rolls and

907
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: they were like, no, Connor, Connor Williams is not a

908
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: is a backup center some a player that I don't know.

909
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say fairly easy, but that someone that you

910
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: think you might be able to get once the rosters

911
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: are cut. I oh that I don't know the answer to. Here.

912
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: Here's another part of it too, that everyone keeps saying, well,

913
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: if he can be your backup center, it saves your

914
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: roster spot and all that game day roster spot. Well,

915
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: unless they've changed it back, I thought the rules were

916
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: now you have to have eight guys active anyways on

917
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: the line, you have to have eight linemen. So having

918
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: this guy that ain't gonna do a lot, I think that, like,

919
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: you're both right, I think now looking at it, I mean,

920
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I thought Tyler bottish Um helped himself by not doing anything.

921
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: I think Connor just but I do think you cannot

922
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: convince me that if Connor Williams would have gone out there,

923
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: grated out well, no issues with snaps and all that.

924
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: You can't tell me that they're not thinking, you know what,

925
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: he may be our center and maybe McGovern needs to

926
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: play left guard. I still think that they're trying to

927
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: figure it all out because I think I don't care

928
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: who's taking the snaps at quarterback. Be honest. Needs work. Yeah,

929
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: so that's it. That's don't get me wrong, work. Don't

930
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: get me wrong. It is weird. It's very weird. But again,

931
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: going back to my mediocre career as a student, it

932
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: reminds me of like the night before the project is due,

933
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I could have been so much

934
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: this could have been so much better if i'd started

935
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: two weeks ago instead of tonight. I have absolute faith

936
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: that Connor Williams could become a solid center in time.

937
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Why did they wait until July twenty fifth? Like, why

938
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: why wasn't he doing this all through the spring? Why

939
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: didn't Why would? I mean, I don't understand. It's gonna

940
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: piss you off. He comes back next year on another

941
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: team and he's or starting center. I can say it,

942
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: but it certainly will be curious, like you definitely will

943
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: look at it and say what happened here? Like like

944
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: miss it? Like does anyone like seeing Beasley on the

945
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: top one hundred lists, Like even though that's on it? Yeah,

946
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: I was on it. I mean nineties something. He had

947
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: a really good year last year. Don't better than tyrants

948
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: math and that kind of No, No, I mean the orders.

949
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: But um, I don't even know what I was saying

950
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: about about Connor Williams. I don't, I don't know. I

951
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: lost my train of thought. You said something. What were

952
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: you saying about? I just don't understand why they waited

953
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: until training camp to start this. Like I didn't see

954
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: Connor do this. He did do he did do quarterback

955
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: school during OTAs, which is twenty minutes with the quarterbacks,

956
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: but like he never played center in a team setting

957
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: in the spring, and that was eight practices, which how

958
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: many did they have out there? Thirteen? So I asked

959
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: you do the math? After the game, I did ask them,

960
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, what is what's going on? Kenny? You're like,

961
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: this is this? Maybe you just compete for a starting

962
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: job because like, I'll do whatever they ask me to do.

963
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: But from what I've been told, this is just for emergencies,

964
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a hell of an emergency. Well

965
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: again that maybe that's a good sign that they feel

966
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: great about where Tyler beotist is that he doesn't need

967
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: those reps. Like, maybe that's what it is. Who knows, um,

968
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't, I can't. I'm not in the meeting rooms.

969
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: But but it just seems a little weird to me

970
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: that a guy that's in his second year doesn't need

971
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: more snaps in the preseason to get himself ready. I

972
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: think it's maybe it's a case of priorities, right, Like

973
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: Tyler does need work, but Tyler's played center for a

974
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: long time, won the Rimington Trophy in college. What your

975
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: expectation is that he's going to be the start and

976
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: hopefully play sixteen games. I would think that's the priority.

977
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: The backup becomes the second priority. I if you feel

978
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: seventy five percent sure about your starter and twenty percent

979
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: sure about your backup at a job, the only other

980
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: job in football where you hold the football every snap,

981
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: I see the logic. I'm not it's weird. I'm not

982
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: saying it's not weird, but I'm trying to but piece

983
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: that together. Like, but Connor needs the work way more

984
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: than Tyler, even though Tyler also needs work. But they

985
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: could have done both, because what Connor needs is he

986
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: needs to snap the football back to someone. It doesn't

987
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: really matter who he's playing again the fourth quarter, third quarter.

988
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: But you also don't want to put your starting left

989
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: guard out there in the fourth quarter of a game

990
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: against scrubs that are trying to make part of the

991
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: whole thing. When you're starting left guard is also your

992
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: backup center. He's gonna have to because he's got to

993
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: get those reps because you want the first team guy

994
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: to get the first team reps. Are we give him

995
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: McGovern a pass that he's a third round pick and

996
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: he really hasn't done anything and he's not factoring in

997
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: as a starter, and he's he's and they're they're thinking,

998
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: so this one, you don't think he's factoring as a star. Well,

999
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he isn't. He isn't starting. You know, Brandon

1000
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: Knight gets some work in there too at guard, and

1001
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're trying to figure figure this whole

1002
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: thing out. I mean, I just I don't know. I mean,

1003
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: I thought with a second round grade and the third

1004
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: by they drafted him in the third round. I thought

1005
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: at some point he would be a guy that would

1006
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: just kind of be starting. I will give him the

1007
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: credit of pointing out that he did come in and

1008
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: play the last six weeks of last season and was

1009
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good, wasn't awful, like so he's done

1010
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: more than nothing. And maybe maybe that's what they're trying

1011
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: to do, Like deep down, maybe they're like, you know,

1012
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: let's try him at center, Connor Williams at center, and

1013
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: McGovern will be there. So they're trying to get their

1014
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: better their five best guys. But I don't think I

1015
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: will say, I think you can do it the way

1016
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: that they build the McGovern pick when it happened as

1017
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: this blinking red light that nobody could ignore. And it

1018
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: hasn't lived up to that level of the hype, that's

1019
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, I think they what what they're probably

1020
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: or at least what the signs look like to me,

1021
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: is maybe they think McGovern is a better guard than

1022
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: Tyler Beyottish is a center. The problem is they can't

1023
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: get Connor to be a better center, which blows up

1024
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Maybe they should have started working him

1025
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: at center before three weeks ago, and I asked you

1026
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: guys this, and during the break, I wonder if I mean,

1027
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: I wonder how he played because it's really easy to

1028
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: see bats snap, bats snap, and I go, well, he

1029
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: was awful, because that is very problematic. But part of

1030
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: the he is he is he picking up the blitz?

1031
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: Is he understanding things? Is he recognizing, you know, the

1032
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: the alignments and all that stuff, and is he does

1033
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: he do, you know, snap it into a nice NFL

1034
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: game pass? Maybe help us out with that, right, not

1035
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: trying to grade TV copy. If you catch my drift?

1036
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: Well he said, he said, I said, so what happened

1037
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: on the second one? The one that you know went

1038
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: to the ground first, and he was like, uh, it

1039
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: hit my cheek. They basically snapped it into his ass.

1040
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean that's basically what happened. And that's the play

1041
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: that I thought Garrett Gilbert did it. I mean he

1042
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: jumped on it and said all right, once touched me,

1043
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: he rolls and gets up and throws. If he would

1044
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: have made that play, I mean, if he would have

1045
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: thing like it's got to be to make that adjustment

1046
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: for like any of the offensive line spots are hard.

1047
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: But then I mean getting the snap off and having

1048
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: it be accurate and going where it's supposed to go

1049
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: in that as you do it, some three hundred and

1050
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: twenty pound mofo is gonna crash right into your face.

1051
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds really difficult, you know. I'll say

1052
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: this about McCarthy. I like the way he calls or

1053
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: they call games and whether it be kelling, but I

1054
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: like the way he manages these preseason games. He's not

1055
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: trying to see the punt team go out and see

1056
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: if the punter can get the ball to the ten

1057
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 1: on fourth and nine and punt it like you normally

1058
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: would like. He's we're going for it fourth and twelve.

1059
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: We're going for it. We're gonna try. I mean, I'd

1060
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: rather see this than just manage the game. You pick

1061
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: up fourth and twelve. We need to pour and and

1062
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: I think that goes to a guy that's that's coached

1063
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: for twelve years. He can turn it on, turn it off.

1064
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to practice. This is how you do things,

1065
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: that's what the chart says to do and all that stuff.

1066
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: Now we're just gonna play. I want my guys to

1067
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: go out there and try to convert. I always say

1068
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: I think coaches make way too many decisions based on

1069
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: like how defensible it'll be later, you know, like am

1070
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: I going to get killed for doing this? Or should

1071
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: I just do the smart football thing that people have

1072
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: done for decades. I worry about that less with McCarthy,

1073
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: and that's not always going to work, and that's fine,

1074
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: but I appreciate that he doesn't seem that worried about it.

1075
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: There was a play that I liked that it probably

1076
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: would be overlooked, I think by many, but I'm always

1077
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: one of my pet peeves is this when the offensive

1078
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: coordinator just plays at play to play and doesn't think about,

1079
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, two or three plays ahead. And when they

1080
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: scored the touchdown, it was third and six from like

1081
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: the nine, and they ran to draw up the middle

1082
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: to Knox, I think Brennan Knox, and he got a

1083
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: first down all the way to the one. But you're

1084
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: not expecting a first down. You're expecting three yards, four

1085
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: yards whatever. But it could open up what, you know,

1086
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: what they do on fourth down. I really like that call.

1087
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: That showed me Kellen was thinking two plays ahead now

1088
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: and if you get the first even better, And they did,

1089
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: and they order all that stuff but that's that's what

1090
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: I want to see out of your offensive coordinators go

1091
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: down there and say, all right, what are we doing here?

1092
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: It's just four down and it clearly was four down

1093
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: territory for them, so they knew that. So, um, that

1094
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: was nice to see a touchdown, you know, I mean

1095
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: for once this season, we've spent most of the show

1096
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: talking about the offense. Real quick, I want to give

1097
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: each you guys an opportunity to give me one defensive

1098
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 1: player from the game that stood out to you. I'll

1099
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: start first, Oh, Dave's got it? Israel mukuamu or you're

1100
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna I'll give you your bril. It's not

1101
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: who you were gonna take. He's played great. Yes, yeah,

1102
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: this is great. Go ahead, though, I want to hear

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00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: what Israel? I just I'm really impressed by him. I

1104
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: was talking about this on Twitter, you know. I mean,

1105
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: he played cornerback in college. It's the joke we always reference.

1106
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: He's like, you're gonna get the best corner in the draft. Oops,

1107
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: no you're not. That's not your position. Um, And he

1108
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: played some safety in college, but like it's not his

1109
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: primary position. He makes the move, he is physical, you know,

1110
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: he made a great tackle um of the you know,

1111
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: running back in the flat to stop him on a

1112
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: third down. Um. He seems like he's got great instincts,

1113
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: Like he's in position he's you know, at at practice

1114
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: in Oxnard, like he's he's jumping in front of passes,

1115
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: he's reading routes. I'm sure it's not perfect, obviously, but

1116
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: he flashes and he's a willing tackler. Like I said,

1117
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: it seems like he knows where he's supposed to be.

1118
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 1: He's not quite on that Micah Parsons level, obviously, because

1119
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: he's not a top ten pick, but he seems like

1120
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: he's he's where the ball is and that's a good thing. Um.

1121
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: And it's just it's fascinating to me because it's it's

1122
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna be tricky to find a place for him to

1123
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: be blunt about it, because you got you know, I

1124
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: would assume Kasey and Hooker are both gonna make the team.

1125
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: Dono's gonna make the team, um um. And then well

1126
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: and then well you've got jarn Curse and darry and

1127
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: Thompson who I like. I Darien didn't play well at safety,

1128
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: but that's not the point. It's the eternal battle between

1129
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: the special team's coach who wants and Darien Thompson is

1130
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: one of the two or three best special teamers on

1131
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: this team. Jayron Curse has a special team's reputation as well.

1132
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: So now it's you know, the front office probably favors

1133
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: the draft pick and the coaching staff probably favors these

1134
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: veterans who were versatile, and that's an interesting that's an

1135
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: interesting conversation. But Israel mcquamu is doing everything he can

1136
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: to make them want to side with him, in my opinion, Yeah,

1137
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: I think Steve and Jones he didn't he wasn't going

1138
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: to pronounce his name, but he did say it to

1139
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: me the other day on an interview that he that

1140
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: he really liked what what Israel is doing out there

1141
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: and just loves the matchup. Um that he can do

1142
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: covering tight ends. Um My, I have a couple. I mean,

1143
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: I think Dorin's armstrong is I mean, he is a phenomenal.

1144
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: He's been outstanding and we all can see that. Um.

1145
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: And then I lost my other guy. I think I

1146
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: gotta stole this point from Dave at one point during

1147
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: a show, But we did talk about once the pads

1148
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: come on, and once we start playing games, you're going

1149
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: to see how physical Keyan O'Neill is. We're not seeing

1150
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: it as much early in practice, but once you really

1151
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: start getting the type of play that he's used to,

1152
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: he's going to start to show out more. And I

1153
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: think that he's doing that. I think not only did

1154
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: he did he force a fumble, he had a really

1155
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: nice stop on third down short of the game, short

1156
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. You know, he did it

1157
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: at the end of camp two with a pick like that.

1158
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: I think he's finding his role in the nickel and

1159
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: and I still think it would be a vanilla defense

1160
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: of what dan Quinn's gonna really how they're going to

1161
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: utilize him because he's never played him as linebacker before,

1162
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see. I think though, he's

1163
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: starting to kind of come on here, and so that's

1164
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: a good thing. I'll throw this out there too, because

1165
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: we mentioned Jabril Cox, which he looks really good obviously,

1166
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's getting the opportunity in games, he's

1167
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: making the most of it. He's led the team in

1168
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: tackles both preseason games. I care a lot less about

1169
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: the plays that he makes on defense. He made it

1170
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: nice tackle on a kickoff return that it might not

1171
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: have saved a touchdown, but I think the guy got

1172
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: to the thirty five. He was going across midfield for sure,

1173
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: and Cox just knifed into his lane and brought him down.

1174
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I care about, because he could

1175
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: be the biggest steal in the entire draft. He's still not.

1176
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: He's not getting on the field on defense unless something

1177
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: terrible happens. I mean, there's just too many bodies in

1178
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: front of him. And when you guys talk about earlier,

1179
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about those big bodies that are now out injured.

1180
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: Guy like him becoming very very more because he's a

1181
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: big body that can special teams for him. And like

1182
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: before I started doing this job, that is that's that's

1183
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: what you need to look for. Like, if I'm talking

1184
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: to somebody who's trying to analyze these preseason games, a

1185
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: guy like Jabril Cox showing that he can make plays

1186
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: like that on special teams is huge. Like, I mean,

1187
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna make the team regardless, but you see him

1188
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: doing stuff like that, now you're like, Okay, this guy

1189
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: can get a jersey on game day. He can do this,

1190
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: that and the other. So that was really enaging and

1191
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: his answer about it when when he was asked about,

1192
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: you know, playing special teams, he was like, that's that's

1193
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: what I need to own that part of the game.

1194
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: That's all that is is. You know, this doesn't sound

1195
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: like a rookie. He said, special teams is a one

1196
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: on one battle. There's one guy that's gonna block me.

1197
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: If I can beat him, i can go make the play.

1198
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: And it's like I'm not gonna not gonna be blocked

1199
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: and he's You're starting to see that and that's a

1200
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: great mentality, especially for a guy that was at North

1201
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: Dakota State. He probably wasn't playing a lot of special

1202
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: teams there and when he went to LSU a daddy

1203
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: was playing a ton But he comes here and understands

1204
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: that role and embraces it and really kind of relat

1205
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: that's how he makes the team and that Dave said,

1206
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: that's how you get on the field for game day.

1207
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: It's super encouraging too, because we, I mean, okay, he's

1208
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: behind Micah Layton, Jalen and Kean O'Neil, Like where are

1209
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: the defensive snaps coming from? And so you know, I

1210
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: think a lot of people and honestly, I was kind

1211
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: of discouraged myself first two weeks of practice, like this

1212
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: guy hasn't done anything. What's going on? But what do

1213
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: you do with your opportunity? He gets him in these

1214
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: games and he's I mean, he's putting good looking tape

1215
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: out there in my opinion, which is that's really fun

1216
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: for him for a guy that you know, there's not

1217
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities in practice. That's a route. We

1218
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: will be back on Wednesday, and make sure you come

1219
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: out tonight if you're in town to a Cowboys Night

1220
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: here at Ford Center at the Star and if not,

1221
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: to make sure you check it out online. We'll have

1222
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: streaming on all of our different platforms. Still in for

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Dave helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This has

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00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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