Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Happy New Year,
Speaker 1: you hose year, you get it nine or two one
Speaker 1: hose ho ho the three of us we made you guys.
Speaker 1: Don't drink it yet. Things are going well so far.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? It's kind of cool like no expectations, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know what, it can't get much worse and well,
Speaker 1: I never know what. I have no control over anything.
Speaker 1: You're right soized that. M hmmm. Did you guys make
Speaker 1: any New Year's resolutions? Yeah? I already broke mine. Oh
Speaker 1: I broke mine too, that's where my best friends. Yes, sis,
Speaker 1: what was your resolution to not drink drink less wine?
Speaker 1: Not drink less red wine? Oh my god, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: I love that you guys have to drink, not to
Speaker 1: have to, but you enjoy drinking during the podcast, And
Speaker 1: if I were to drink, I would be horrible, Like
Speaker 1: I can. This is like considered being on the job
Speaker 1: for me, I know, but we use this as like
Speaker 1: this is our our our date night. Yeah, totally, it's true,
Speaker 1: and that's so funny. This is your day job and
Speaker 1: for us. I just I was just thinking, like lounge singers,
Speaker 1: this is our night job. We moonlight as podcasters, drunk
Speaker 1: on the job. So did you watch the episode that
Speaker 1: we're talking about? This? Yes? Did anybody that was That
Speaker 1: was our homework We were supposed to watch its perfect mom,
Speaker 1: Perfect mom. Uh. This show aired November. Brenda envies Kelly's
Speaker 1: relationship with her hip looking mom until she sees another
Speaker 1: side at a public event where Andrea shines. Andrea shines
Speaker 1: at a public event. I'm there, Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: can literally remember filming this episode, Like I remember that
Speaker 1: runway and like, I bet you do. You had to
Speaker 1: wear a freaking but knee in front of all those people,
Speaker 1: and I would like, you, you're a little but so
Speaker 1: adorable chicks, so cute, remember when I had a little
Speaker 1: but oh it's really I have a mama, But you're
Speaker 1: adorable and your and your mom was rocking a bathing
Speaker 1: suit on the runway too, But that was my mom,
Speaker 1: who wasn't my mom? Yeah, I feel like they hired
Speaker 1: her just because she looked great in a bikini. So
Speaker 1: that bikini I wore was my own bikini, And I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if you ever did this.
Speaker 1: I used to buy bikinis my friends and I like
Speaker 1: other friends, not like you guys. Um in high school,
Speaker 1: we would buy like teen sizes, Like if you were seventeen,
Speaker 1: like you would wear an adult small. You would buy
Speaker 1: like a teen preteen or a teen bikini so it
Speaker 1: would fit itsy bitsy. So I was wearing probably like yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like seventeen, wearing like third Tchenerrals Borkini. None
Speaker 1: of this is sounding good. Sorry, well now they have those,
Speaker 1: like really like string bikinis. They didn't have them. Then
Speaker 1: that's interesting. You were wearing a string bikini before. It
Speaker 1: was cool. I guess your button, she's hanging out. But
Speaker 1: that wasn't even my mom. That was that she was
Speaker 1: a weird really weird to see a different woman as
Speaker 1: your mom. Yeah, different name too, was it? Nancy? Nancy Martin?
Speaker 1: Nancy Martin? You're right, that crazy, not Fleece. This episode
Speaker 1: was a lot of like Kelly's home turmoil, you don't
Speaker 1: really know what's going on, Like I love that because
Speaker 1: you always think everybody's got it better than you, everybody's
Speaker 1: life is simpler, better, easier, And then you get to
Speaker 1: see behind the curtain a little bit on this episode,
Speaker 1: and it was a lot about the moms too, so
Speaker 1: Kelly's mom and then Brenda's mom. Who, by the way,
Speaker 1: what Carol Potter, We'll be joining us very shortly. If not,
Speaker 1: she might be here already, Carol, Carol there, all of us,
Speaker 1: what are your memories with her? So we luckily just
Speaker 1: got to see her last summer. Last summer, well now
Speaker 1: it's two summers ago for b H nine O two now,
Speaker 1: and she flew up to Vancouver and we all got
Speaker 1: to work together and it was so great to be
Speaker 1: with her. It was just like, so, she was a
Speaker 1: therapist on the show, but she's really a therapist in
Speaker 1: real life. Now, yes, I thought that was just that
Speaker 1: was that was because she was a therapist in real life.
Speaker 1: The Carol, thank you for coming and being on our podcast.
Speaker 1: All our hair is long, isn't it? Because none of
Speaker 1: us are getting haircuts, Torry, I have never seen your
Speaker 1: hair that long. I paid for all of it. It's
Speaker 1: gotta gotta find something. But yeah, I mean as far
Speaker 1: as the therapist thing goes. Um. After I left the show,
Speaker 1: I went back to school. I got a master's. I
Speaker 1: did my three thousand hours working with clients and getting
Speaker 1: supervision and stuff. And actually the best part. You know,
Speaker 1: I did a soap that your father also produced. That's right, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Sunset Beach. And the great thing about that soap was
Speaker 1: I was that was when I was getting all my
Speaker 1: hours and my training, and because I already had the
Speaker 1: job the the because the training thing was already established,
Speaker 1: they were really helpful and sort of working around my schedule.
Speaker 1: And you know, soaps are different in in Back in
Speaker 1: the day, you had to be there morning till night
Speaker 1: because they got in sequence. There was no editing. But
Speaker 1: now they just edited all on a computer. It's really
Speaker 1: fast and easy, so you can do all the scenes
Speaker 1: in one location at the same time. Right. So I
Speaker 1: would go on the set and it would be all
Speaker 1: about me, me, me, you know, my hair, my hair,
Speaker 1: and my makeup and my wardrobe and my motivation and
Speaker 1: my emotions and all that stuff. And then I go
Speaker 1: to the therapy room and it'd be all about the him,
Speaker 1: and I could just forget about myself, leave myself completely behind.
Speaker 1: It was such a great sort of balance. I would
Speaker 1: have done that the rest of my life. But of
Speaker 1: course soaps tied so didn't work out quite that way.
Speaker 1: We wrote, We wrote into b H nine two, I
Speaker 1: know that you did a group therapy session for the cast,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was so fun because you really
Speaker 1: were a therapists. So when we filmed that, were you thinking, well,
Speaker 1: if there's no hope for these people, I can have
Speaker 1: them therapist fans like really like the die hard fans
Speaker 1: know that you're a therapist the background. But I wonder
Speaker 1: if other people watching or just like, oh, I wonder
Speaker 1: why they cast her as the therapist. They probably didn't
Speaker 1: get it. It's a lot of people didn't. Every does
Speaker 1: say it. In the scene, she says, she is a
Speaker 1: licensed therapist. And I've had I've had all kinds of
Speaker 1: things with clients coming in and I came in and
Speaker 1: I've had I had a couple. I have worked with
Speaker 1: them for months and months and months, and they finally
Speaker 1: I think they were breaking up. So we were ending
Speaker 1: the work together and at the very last session, he says,
Speaker 1: don't you recognize her? She's the mom from And I'm going,
Speaker 1: oh my god. He was with me all this time
Speaker 1: and he never said a word I would. You're a legend,
Speaker 1: Like everyone knows who you are, Like, there's not anyone
Speaker 1: that sees you that doesn't recognize you. Do you feel
Speaker 1: the need with all of your patients to say, like
Speaker 1: to get it out of the way and say something
Speaker 1: or no, I think there's always in the back of
Speaker 1: your head. No, I leave it to them at the moment.
Speaker 1: Most of my clients are kind of older than um
Speaker 1: then the you know, the key demographic. But there's no
Speaker 1: question that I have that it's you know, if we're
Speaker 1: a different role, it would be a problem. But because
Speaker 1: Cindy was everybody's understanding, you know, heartfelt, welcoming everyone, all
Speaker 1: of that stuff, it really segues into the natural transition.
Speaker 1: I would lose my mind if I come to a
Speaker 1: session and saw that it it was you, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh my God, and I would fan girl out. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing, I got a bone to pick with you.
Speaker 1: Like you became a therapist, but all of those years
Speaker 1: before that, you never helped us. We had so many issues.
Speaker 1: We did you where we can tell you every every
Speaker 1: single interview that I did for you know, to be
Speaker 1: your radio or newspapers or what they always ask, Oh
Speaker 1: do the kids come to you for advice? I'm going
Speaker 1: are you kidding? Now? Now? I wish I had to Jesus, Well,
Speaker 1: you guys, you know, you were in your own you
Speaker 1: you were trying to figure it out on your own.
Speaker 1: And I mean I didn't really have much advice. We're
Speaker 1: just we're just on the first season of the show,
Speaker 1: which is all about the Walsh family and then moving
Speaker 1: to Beverly Hills, and and it's we've commented that it
Speaker 1: seems like in every scene Mama Walsh was like either
Speaker 1: cooking something, barbecuing something, or gardening. Those are the three
Speaker 1: things that you were allowed to do as a character,
Speaker 1: at least so far. Do you remember that we had
Speaker 1: this whole um. There was a whole story about me
Speaker 1: becoming uh like a landscape contractor oh like a Mrs Miyagi. Yes,
Speaker 1: we haven't got and and and Jim was reluctant because
Speaker 1: he was going to custom more in taxes. And finally
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode he says, okay, you
Speaker 1: can you know, you can go get a license to
Speaker 1: be an Isn't that funny? Let you think, But then
Speaker 1: the people at Fox apparently said no, no, she can't. No,
Speaker 1: not real money. Why she's not allowed to make money
Speaker 1: just to stay home and cook the meals for the teenagers.
Speaker 1: I don't even know why, But I just got it's
Speaker 1: my dad's show. I just felt shame from head to toe.
Speaker 1: What that is infuriating? Sorry, well I don't think it
Speaker 1: was his fault, but still, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, different time, but but you looked hot
Speaker 1: in every episode like you were the milf you were
Speaker 1: so I mean nothing that we're saying you were, but
Speaker 1: you are. You're such a beautiful woman. But that that
Speaker 1: was thirty years ago. And we every time I see
Speaker 1: you on screen and we always comment about it is
Speaker 1: how hot Carol Potter is. And yeah, truly, like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, like that storylines they didn't do like what
Speaker 1: you called her an h f D Jenny. Was I
Speaker 1: right potty for days? Oh my goodness, so flattered? You know.
Speaker 1: I was never the hottie in my career. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I went from sister to mother like within a year.
Speaker 1: And the year that I became mom, I had a
Speaker 1: baby and a ten year old, so there was it
Speaker 1: was something I passed the threshold, and um, I never
Speaker 1: went back. I was mom for the rest of my days.
Speaker 1: You're kidding it? How how old do you mind just
Speaker 1: asking how old you were when you start at the show? Um,
Speaker 1: well it was ninety. I was forty two, so I
Speaker 1: was younger than that. Gosh, yes, yeah, and like at
Speaker 1: our age, at our age, like we're still fighting to
Speaker 1: be like, we're still sex symbols when we do something
Speaker 1: like and wow, like you know what you were the
Speaker 1: girl next door? You were Maryanne from Gilligan's Island, and
Speaker 1: every boy wanted Marianne at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: not Ginger. So you won. Well that was yes, everyone,
Speaker 1: everyone didn't remind I did remind everyone of somebody they knew,
Speaker 1: Is that right. The other thing that's funny is, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people recognize me, but they can't always
Speaker 1: place me, so they'll say things like, were you a
Speaker 1: teacher at my high school? Get that too? Did we
Speaker 1: go to school together? I feel like I know you
Speaker 1: did you know? Yeah, we're there are classmates. Did you
Speaker 1: watch this episode? Perfect mom um, oh, I remember that episode?
Speaker 1: That was a big episode. Yeah. Well, you know, Annie,
Speaker 1: Annie Gillespie and I are still great friends. You are,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. She you know, she and I grew up
Speaker 1: in two towns right next to each other in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: And Glesbie, who played Kelly Taylor's mom, Jackie. Yeah. Throughout
Speaker 1: the entire series. Yeah, and this episode really focuses on Jackie.
Speaker 1: Yes and her. This is when we're doing the fashion show, right,
Speaker 1: fancy dress. The thing I remember most about this show, Kelly,
Speaker 1: is how many times wait, wait, hold on, you just
Speaker 1: called me Kelly, and I just want to point it out.
Speaker 1: I love it. And here's the funny part. I ruined
Speaker 1: at least three takes calling me Jenny. I kept saying Jenny,
Speaker 1: and people would look at me and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what I'd done wrong. And now
Speaker 1: I call you Kelly. There's no rhyme or reason. Time
Speaker 1: you said something in that episode, UM that I really
Speaker 1: resonated with me as a grown woman now and of teenagers. Um.
Speaker 1: I see everything so differently as I watched the show now,
Speaker 1: because when I when I watched, when I was in it,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was happening. I didn't really understand
Speaker 1: anything outside my little brain bubble. But now watching it,
Speaker 1: you said something in the kitchen I think was to
Speaker 1: Brenda when she was trying to get you to hang
Speaker 1: out with Kelly's mom. You were like, um, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's really nice. I'm paraphrasing. But she's really nice,
Speaker 1: but we're just different. I don't really want to be
Speaker 1: friends with her. Basically, we're just different. And Brenda got
Speaker 1: all upset about that, thinking that you, you know, were
Speaker 1: you thought you were better than her. But that wasn't
Speaker 1: the case at all. You you just kind of felt
Speaker 1: like your friend, your your personalities didn't meet up. Maybe well,
Speaker 1: I suspect that, you know, I was. Cindy probably felt
Speaker 1: a little intimidated somebody. I mean she had been a big,
Speaker 1: you know, star model and had this, you know, big career,
Speaker 1: and I'm m a stay at home mom and I've
Speaker 1: been all my cooking. What do you think was the
Speaker 1: best dish Cindy Walsh made? Oh god? Did we ever? Do?
Speaker 1: You can remember you tasting a lot of the dishes?
Speaker 1: I have this memory and in my mom we all
Speaker 1: remember it of you eating all the property. She didn't
Speaker 1: want to waste it. I love it. It's the Scott
Speaker 1: in me. You know, did you ever get like a
Speaker 1: stomach ache from from the spray that they sprayed on it? Nope? Nope, no,
Speaker 1: I mean I probably couldn't do it now because my
Speaker 1: little Tom, he's more sensitive. She was so tiny and
Speaker 1: had the best body, and yeah, you would. You would
Speaker 1: eat all the eating and I'd be like, wow, eat anything.
Speaker 1: Rarely used a spit bucket too, I just would eat it. Wait,
Speaker 1: there's spit buckets. Well, you have to eat the same
Speaker 1: thing over and over again. Yeah, they give you a
Speaker 1: spit bucket so you don't have to actually eat the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Interesting as soon as they cut, like they
Speaker 1: do that in commercials, especially because otherwise, you know, you
Speaker 1: be eating three or four or five hamburgers and would
Speaker 1: be bad. That would be bad. But I felt I
Speaker 1: felt like sorry for Cindy in that episode in a
Speaker 1: different way than I did for like Relate. I related
Speaker 1: to you a lot more as a mom, and I
Speaker 1: felt sad that you felt like she didn't want you
Speaker 1: at the fashion show. That broke my heart. Yeah, this episode,
Speaker 1: I literally cried probably three times. And it was so
Speaker 1: embarrassing because I was sitting there watching it with my
Speaker 1: kid and my husband and my Fiona was like, why
Speaker 1: are you crying? I said, I cry when I see
Speaker 1: me cry on TV, Like when I'm watching myself cry,
Speaker 1: it makes me cry because I feel all the feelings again.
Speaker 1: And then I look over and my husband's got he's
Speaker 1: got a tear. He had a tear too, so well,
Speaker 1: you know that's that was one of the things that
Speaker 1: I think made this show so strong and appealing was
Speaker 1: that it did have a very strong emotional tug on
Speaker 1: the audience. I mean, you were really we got people
Speaker 1: rooting for everybody, you know, even the bad people, the
Speaker 1: bad characters, you know, right, even when the main characters
Speaker 1: would go through bad things, the audience would kind of
Speaker 1: ride that way with them. And yeah, yeah, it reminded
Speaker 1: me of us now, Jen as school moms. Do you
Speaker 1: remember a conversation we had where I think we're working
Speaker 1: at Mystery Girls, and I was frazzled because I had
Speaker 1: come from school from drop off and I have this
Speaker 1: innate to this day feeling of like I want everyone
Speaker 1: to like me. I want to fit in. And I
Speaker 1: still remember the conversation we had because you said I
Speaker 1: was late and so why are you lad? And I said,
Speaker 1: because I had to say hi to everyone, because if
Speaker 1: I don't, They're going to think I'm a bit They're
Speaker 1: they're not gonna like me. And you were like, but
Speaker 1: your priority are the kids, Like, it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: they like you, And I was like, how are you
Speaker 1: at school? You're like, I go in. My head's down
Speaker 1: and I go And I respected that. I learned so
Speaker 1: much because I was like, she's right, like if you
Speaker 1: become friends with someone great, but trying to have to
Speaker 1: fit in, it's different. Now we're not doing it for us,
Speaker 1: We're doing it for our kids. We don't have to
Speaker 1: fit in. So I don't know, it's not always take
Speaker 1: that story, and I always think of you all the time.
Speaker 1: I had an incident at Christopher's school. One of the
Speaker 1: older you know, Christopher was like age three to eight
Speaker 1: those those first five years, and um, there was a
Speaker 1: girl at his school who you know, she's probably nine
Speaker 1: or ten, you know, so she's quite a bit older
Speaker 1: than him. And I guess the the the head of
Speaker 1: the school was a friend of mine, and she said,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the girls are you know, want
Speaker 1: to ask you about nine o two? You know? You know,
Speaker 1: so I did. I took a little moment with them
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I appreciate that you liked
Speaker 1: the show and everything, but you know, this this place
Speaker 1: is Christopher's place, and I don't I want to respect
Speaker 1: that this is this is the place where he shines
Speaker 1: and he's it's all about him and they were so
Speaker 1: they totally got it because they're going to the same school, right,
Speaker 1: they wanted the same thing for themselves. So, um, so
Speaker 1: that was nice. They gosh, you are Cindy Wall she
Speaker 1: you are. Do you remember your audition story, like your
Speaker 1: audition for the show? Oh? God, yes, I mean, um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the first audition so much. Oh, this
Speaker 1: is what I remember. I mean, I've been out of
Speaker 1: work for a while, and every time I had an
Speaker 1: audition and I didn't hear back right away, I would
Speaker 1: just dissolve into tears because I was convinced I would
Speaker 1: never work again. But the one, the one I really remember, though,
Speaker 1: was the one that your dad was at Tory, because
Speaker 1: you know, you walk into those rooms and they're all
Speaker 1: these guys sitting there and they're just looking at you.
Speaker 1: Your father it comes right up to me, shakes my
Speaker 1: hand and he said, Hi, I'm Aaron Spelling, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming in. And I thought, wow, nobody does that.
Speaker 1: You know, he never forgot what it was like to
Speaker 1: be an actor, even though he became a big producer,
Speaker 1: And um, that just impressed me so much and it
Speaker 1: put me at ease. Right, he loved actor so much
Speaker 1: because he came from it. You're right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I wonder was up against you. I wonder who looks
Speaker 1: back and was like, no could be. I think there
Speaker 1: was two of us. But do you remember, like the
Speaker 1: like your first time on the set. Do you remember
Speaker 1: what it was like to kind of come and remember
Speaker 1: I had a different husband. Yes, that's right, Tell everyone,
Speaker 1: Tell everyone. Linman Ward was a wonderful actor. He's about
Speaker 1: six too. I think he's ver very tall. I think
Speaker 1: was one of the problems, these short children, these two
Speaker 1: tall parents, and then you know, I think he I
Speaker 1: think his quality he was too sort of urbane and sophisticated.
Speaker 1: It didn't ring sort of it didn't provide enough contrast.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's my guests. I mean, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: So somebody else was cast as Jim Walsh in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but they reshot, they reshot those scenes for the pilot. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: if you watched like you'll see that Jim is often
Speaker 1: standing in a doorway. By the rest of the he
Speaker 1: went on to start on something big after that. Oh
Speaker 1: he was, but something after I can't remember. But but yes,
Speaker 1: I think you're right, I think goodness. But I did
Speaker 1: read with Jim and the other fellow who was reading
Speaker 1: for that part that they were going to replace him with,
Speaker 1: and I was rooting for Jim. We heard, we heard
Speaker 1: that you had a little crush on a couple of
Speaker 1: the actors, maybe Luke Hurt. You had the biggest crush
Speaker 1: on Luke. I think everybody that came up joke about
Speaker 1: it all the time. He would flirt with you. I
Speaker 1: remember that. I remember how he'd go up and just
Speaker 1: hold you, like nuzzle you and get dirty to each other.
Speaker 1: What would he say? I said, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: always something inappropriate. He was whispering into your ear. But
Speaker 1: what do you remember, Harold Potter just said he talked
Speaker 1: dirty to me. He whispered it. And she's giggling. She's
Speaker 1: giggling the way you giggle over you can't see. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm my cheeks are very hot. It's so interesting. I
Speaker 1: didn't remember it to you said it, and then I
Speaker 1: can have the visual of him, like seeing you in
Speaker 1: the hallway and going up to you and putting his
Speaker 1: hands on your waist and talking. Yeah, I'm seeing it
Speaker 1: right now. She's really having to tell us one thing
Speaker 1: he said that wasn't too dirty. Oh, if I can
Speaker 1: remember anything in particular exactly, you know we had that. Oh,
Speaker 1: Mrs Mrs Walsh, I should have enough. Ms Robinson, gravely
Speaker 1: lovely having affair with Dylan. Oh, I can imagine. We
Speaker 1: thought that would be fun. Actually mentioned it was Grand
Speaker 1: shown from m Grand Show from Melrose Place, and we
Speaker 1: were sitting on a wall at one point and he's
Speaker 1: looking at me, says, we should be having the affair,
Speaker 1: having the you know, the younger man, older woman affair.
Speaker 1: But what is happening? The star of nine two, the
Speaker 1: Star of Melrose Placed. They were all hitting on you,
Speaker 1: Carol Potter. The whole side of you is revealed today.
Speaker 1: I love the hubbub love it so much because we've
Speaker 1: rewatching these episodes, Like we couldn't see it when we
Speaker 1: were in it, but now re watching it, we were
Speaker 1: saying the same thing, like beautiful, beautiful. Yeah we didn't really,
Speaker 1: we didn't really take the time to look at you
Speaker 1: much because we're so worried about what we look like.
Speaker 1: But now we're watching it, you looked amazing and you
Speaker 1: were You're acting was so great and I feel like
Speaker 1: I personally just didn't appreciate your amazing contribution fusion to
Speaker 1: the show at that time. Well, you know, I have
Speaker 1: to say that that you know, doing that reboot by
Speaker 1: the way, you don't, you ladies really put together something.
Speaker 1: I mean when I first heard about it, I said,
Speaker 1: a bunch of actors getting together to try to, you know,
Speaker 1: reboot a show. But once I read that script and
Speaker 1: I thought you did an amazing job. I mean you
Speaker 1: you hit on so many, like themes of aging of celebrity,
Speaker 1: I mean, sort of deconstructing these, uh, the idea of celebrity,
Speaker 1: the idea of what's a person really like and what's
Speaker 1: their real life versus their screen life. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just I have to give you props for that because
Speaker 1: I thought it was really well done. And and I
Speaker 1: have to say that was probably my favorite day of
Speaker 1: shooting ever in my entire career. You were all so sweet,
Speaker 1: and it was so nice to hang around together. Now
Speaker 1: that you're all adults, it was so much more relaxed.
Speaker 1: And then you knew what you were about. You weren't
Speaker 1: you know, you weren't all stressed about I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine what it was like to find yourself throwst
Speaker 1: so in the spotlight. The way you were, it must
Speaker 1: have been incredibly jarring and scary, you know. I just
Speaker 1: remember the girls were all getting scared. I mean I
Speaker 1: remember Shannon coming, Oh guy came to my house. I
Speaker 1: have to get you know, they were all concerned about
Speaker 1: security and the guys are just going. Girls are throwing
Speaker 1: themselves at me, want to be bad, you know, But
Speaker 1: then you get the who's vulnerable In our culture, it's
Speaker 1: women who are vulnerable, right, and so being thrust out
Speaker 1: into the open. It struck me that it was much
Speaker 1: harder for the for you girls, you women, Yes, we
Speaker 1: didn't really it was harder for the guys, right, well,
Speaker 1: they were. They were just chased more I think by
Speaker 1: the girls, but I think emotionally and mentally, and it
Speaker 1: was more taxing on on maybe the women because there
Speaker 1: was so much more pressure on us to fulfill people's
Speaker 1: everybody's needs, everybody's you know, what they wanted us to be.
Speaker 1: So that was a lot. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: the guys really took that on as much as the
Speaker 1: girls probably did. And I also think, you know, for
Speaker 1: for a guy to have girls throwing themselves at him
Speaker 1: there's a certain aspect of that that he can enjoy.
Speaker 1: But for a young woman to have strange men throwing
Speaker 1: themselves at her feels and to have people just look
Speaker 1: at you a different way, like objectifying you, looking at
Speaker 1: you and and sort of sizing you up or stereotype
Speaker 1: you and thinking that's all you are. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been in therapy for years, Carol, because of of that
Speaker 1: was a really it was a lot, and I was
Speaker 1: not equipped to handle all that went with that sort
Speaker 1: of starting. Very few people who are able are equipped
Speaker 1: to handle something like that at the ages that you
Speaker 1: kids were dealing with it. You don't mind if I
Speaker 1: call you kids? No, keep doing it. I really like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with they confiding you, Carol, and during the show, would
Speaker 1: they come to your dressing room and ask for advice?
Speaker 1: They knew more, They probably knew more. I mean, we
Speaker 1: thought she needs advice from anybody, should go a lot
Speaker 1: of it. I thought. The funny Part two was Tory's
Speaker 1: brother Randy, was in the soap that I did, so
Speaker 1: I now worked with both of the Spelling children. There
Speaker 1: you go. Well, I'm still amazed that you you had
Speaker 1: Luke Perry whispering naughty yeah, I love Yeah, he was,
Speaker 1: he was. Did Jason ever flirt with you? I mean,
Speaker 1: even though it was only pretend, it felt well weird.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I never had a scene
Speaker 1: with Jason until that episode. I don't know what this
Speaker 1: is a sixth season or the seventh season where I
Speaker 1: came back. How is that possible? That was the first?
Speaker 1: I mean just two of you. You know had plenty
Speaker 1: with Shannon and plenty of Jim, you know, and you
Speaker 1: and I had a great one, Tory. You came to
Speaker 1: me for advice or something. You had this I don't know,
Speaker 1: you were pouring your heart out to me. Do you
Speaker 1: remember that scene? I don't even know. I wonder if
Speaker 1: it was like when my mom cheated on my dad.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. That could have been it might have
Speaker 1: been familiar. Yeah, because that just goes to show they
Speaker 1: really they really played on the father son and then
Speaker 1: the mother daughter and the father daughter. Oh and did
Speaker 1: plenty of father daughter like a mom's boy. This is
Speaker 1: like Theory has a connection to his mother. Why didn't
Speaker 1: they explore that? Bizarre? Yeah, that's I think you put
Speaker 1: the nail on the head, Tory. They didn't want to
Speaker 1: explore that because it reminded them of when they were
Speaker 1: teenagers and their mothers in charge of them. And we
Speaker 1: still you know, when you live in a patriarchal system
Speaker 1: and you're becoming a young man, the last thing you
Speaker 1: want to have to admit to is the fact that
Speaker 1: there was this woman who had control over your life.
Speaker 1: Do you think it a lot of I'm just speculating.
Speaker 1: I love kind of talk. Do you think that a
Speaker 1: lot of men grow into adulthood and and have like
Speaker 1: they hold a grudge against women in general because of
Speaker 1: that very thing ad relationship with their mother? Yeah? Bad?
Speaker 1: Or just that no, well, um, just that sense of
Speaker 1: being on a pedestal kind of well, there's that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we do have moms who enable predators, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you when do you remember this? Oh god, there
Speaker 1: was this huge scandal, Yes, one of those Lakewood, Lakewood,
Speaker 1: California's like have us who I want to say, And
Speaker 1: there was this whole thing that the boys were putting
Speaker 1: notches in their bed post and this one young woman
Speaker 1: had the actually stood up and said he raped her,
Speaker 1: and of course it just got poured on top of
Speaker 1: her and the mother of the boy was just oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's a slot and my son's great. And
Speaker 1: you know, he had slept to his sixty sixty six
Speaker 1: girls and he's not a slot. She slept with one
Speaker 1: and she is. I mean, the double standard was so rampant.
Speaker 1: I was, and I was, so there are parents, There
Speaker 1: are mothers who enabled their sons, for sure. I remember
Speaker 1: having a really like a nice, like strong connection with
Speaker 1: Jackie with Anne who played my mom on the show,
Speaker 1: and I always love the days when I'll be working
Speaker 1: with her, and it just felt it felt good and
Speaker 1: felt warm and fuzzy somehow. And I did you kind
Speaker 1: of have that same feeling with Brenda for Shannon? No?
Speaker 1: I No, I didn't. We weren't warm and fuzzy. I mean,
Speaker 1: we had some nice scenes together, but I never felt
Speaker 1: that close to Shannon. Um. I felt really close to James.
Speaker 1: I mean because she and you know I we're constantly
Speaker 1: you know. I remember when Richard Rountree came to the set,
Speaker 1: we both just glond onto him. Was like another adult
Speaker 1: um but sorry, yeah so um. And when um Tiffany came,
Speaker 1: she and I had a blast because she was really
Speaker 1: you know, she would just you know, shoot this back
Speaker 1: and forth, and so she was a lot of camera. Well,
Speaker 1: but I mean we would play even we were working
Speaker 1: on the scene. I could I could really play with her.
Speaker 1: My sense of Shannon was that she was kind of working.
Speaker 1: She was doing her thing, and I didn't feel like
Speaker 1: there was a lot of space for me. But you know,
Speaker 1: it may have been different when she was working with
Speaker 1: the rest of you guys. I'm sure it was different
Speaker 1: with Luke. That's interesting, though, Jen, you bring that up
Speaker 1: because like my mom on the show, Felice Martin, was
Speaker 1: played by Catherine And why am I blinking at her
Speaker 1: last name? Oh my gosh, But Catherine who played my
Speaker 1: mom Felice Martin on the show. Even though she was
Speaker 1: kind of harsh on the show, she was so warm
Speaker 1: off camera. But I like, I felt the same way
Speaker 1: that you felt. Like the days that I got to
Speaker 1: work with her, I felt so much love and she
Speaker 1: hugged me and it was like literally like having an
Speaker 1: extension like my mom on set. So well, well, Carol,
Speaker 1: you're a great actress because you couldn't tell I never
Speaker 1: guessed it, no what I thought. You guys were BFFs.
Speaker 1: So Carol, you were in a hundred and forty seven
Speaker 1: of the two d and nine episodes. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite? Well, seventeen year itch, I
Speaker 1: know not, you know, I got to flirt with somebody else.
Speaker 1: What season was? Do you know what season that was?
Speaker 1: M do you know what season that was in? That
Speaker 1: was the first season? That was the first season. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's next week. Exciting Now I'm excited for the Carol.
Speaker 1: What to look forward to? And we got to wander
Speaker 1: around venicilt you and your old flame in old town?
Speaker 1: Did you talked so slowly? They had to cut like
Speaker 1: three minutes out of Were you thinking speed it up there? Romantic? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: who's the actor? And you know that was the week
Speaker 1: um so the week before I got married in real life,
Speaker 1: in real life, I mean, we had this whole thing
Speaker 1: planned out where I was. You know, first of all,
Speaker 1: we had this wedding plan for Saturday, and then um,
Speaker 1: they call me. Nobody has given me any information. Right
Speaker 1: that we've done the pilot, they picked it up. It's
Speaker 1: starting to shoot in April. Nobody's given me any information.
Speaker 1: And they say, okay, your first call day is Saturday day.
Speaker 1: I'm going what what Saturday? They oh, oh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: shooting Tuesday through Saturday. I said, what the f. It's
Speaker 1: nobody gonna tell me this. I mean, they literally didn't
Speaker 1: tell me until I had to, you know, show up
Speaker 1: for work. I said, you know, I'm getting married on
Speaker 1: a Saturday in October. Okay, we'll work it out. We
Speaker 1: work it out. So we had it set up. We
Speaker 1: actually flipped two shows so that I would get this
Speaker 1: one over and then shoot the next show, which I
Speaker 1: didn't have much to do it, and then we had
Speaker 1: a pick up day, though it shoved the whole shooting
Speaker 1: schedule over one day, which meant that I missed my
Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner, not until I don't know, you know, ten
Speaker 1: ten eleven o'clock. This is why the business sucks so hard.
Speaker 1: The next day I got married. I can't believe that
Speaker 1: that's so typical. I don't from Broadway who got married
Speaker 1: in between the mattenee and the evening show. They wouldn't,
Speaker 1: but they never let them out of the show. Did
Speaker 1: did Cindy Walsh cheat on Jim? Did you? Did she
Speaker 1: have an affair? You kissed him? Were he kissed him?
Speaker 1: He kissed you? That's cheating, Carol Potter. Technically you cheated
Speaker 1: on Jim malls serious cheating. I was. I was tempted,
Speaker 1: but I realized in time that I really loved Jim
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to ruin my life, so I
Speaker 1: made the right decision. I feel like that's an episode
Speaker 1: in every series. Yeah, like the husband of the wife,
Speaker 1: that temptation to dip their toe in them when you
Speaker 1: consider how how prevalent affairs are in this country. I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to say in this industry, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, just remember you know, couples were those one
Speaker 1: of my specialties, and the number of people who have
Speaker 1: who have extramarital affairs is mind blowing. What's like the percentage?
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, I wouldn't want to guess
Speaker 1: at a percentage, but it's way above ten. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would imagine above ten women. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's I don't know if it's half more than half,
Speaker 1: but it's certainly high up in that first half. Why
Speaker 1: do you believe that typically meant? I mean, obviously it
Speaker 1: can happen both ways, but I think typically, I hate
Speaker 1: to say it, men cheat more than women in a marriage.
Speaker 1: Do you find that true, Carol Um? You know I
Speaker 1: couldn't say for sure, but I know that more women
Speaker 1: are are having affairs these days than well I'm talking
Speaker 1: about you know, once women started going to work, they
Speaker 1: meet people at work, and whereas if you're a housewife,
Speaker 1: what do you have, right, you're speaking cookies, you know,
Speaker 1: just mail man. Oh that's why they said, oh the
Speaker 1: kid came from the milkman. Now I get it. That
Speaker 1: was the only other man, the only other guy who
Speaker 1: gave it out the milk mad men, didn't you? That
Speaker 1: was my era? Yeah? Wow, we were allowed to start working.
Speaker 1: We're allowed to be sexy, we were allowed to love interesting.
Speaker 1: I can wear whatever we want. I mean, the range
Speaker 1: of fashion that's available is great, although I have to
Speaker 1: say fifties the best, nice waspy wastes and full skirts
Speaker 1: and emphasis of the buzzard. You cannot beat fifties. Carol Potter.
Speaker 1: I gave credit to Jenny, but I think it might
Speaker 1: have been you that started the end of the mom jean.
Speaker 1: It could have been is that what do you mean?
Speaker 1: It's the biggest thing now even teens are wearing it.
Speaker 1: You didn't ever wear mom jean. Your jeans were Yes,
Speaker 1: you wore jeans and you were mom, so they were
Speaker 1: technically mom jeans, but the style and the cut of
Speaker 1: the gene that is in now because it's the highwayst
Speaker 1: of the and you were so well yeah, god, well
Speaker 1: you know somebody whoever had the idea that sitting your
Speaker 1: waist at the widest part of your hips was flattering
Speaker 1: to a woman that that person should have their heading salmon.
Speaker 1: Oh that you mean like low waisted jeans and not
Speaker 1: not having the tops right. Yeah, I wore the crap
Speaker 1: out of those in the nineties. Remember when they got
Speaker 1: so low that it was like dangerous though, like a
Speaker 1: hip bun showed and then I don't wear a belt.
Speaker 1: Maybe some pugs popping up, I said, she can't handle it. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's it. I messed her. Sorry, Carol, I'm watching
Speaker 1: Tori have a hysterical fit. Oh wow, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I needed a laugh today too. So we're here for you.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just to hear with this crazy world
Speaker 1: we're living in right now. Yeah, how you holding up?
Speaker 1: I had a bad and I'm telling you the thing
Speaker 1: that I tried to add a new email address mailbox
Speaker 1: onto my phone and it's just like tears for the young.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It'll just I'll come apart calls with
Speaker 1: clients all day. Well pretty much. I've had I do
Speaker 1: my yoga class twice a week on h and man,
Speaker 1: that's been a lifesaver. I have a meditation group. They
Speaker 1: she come, she um. She offers it every single morning.
Speaker 1: I'm usually there at least four times a week, three
Speaker 1: to five times a week, usually about eight thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning. We all do. She brings us into presence,
Speaker 1: she reads a little something, We do a chant, do
Speaker 1: a sit the thing that's really sick. Can we come?
Speaker 1: Can we Oh? Yeah, we need to have a meditation.
Speaker 1: Her name is Heather Ruce. Are you cee? And if
Speaker 1: you google Heather Ruse, you'll go to her website and
Speaker 1: you can click on the daily meditations and she she
Speaker 1: does a great job. But it's really um. I got
Speaker 1: all involved in deeper and re engage with spiritualities here
Speaker 1: and that's it's been my life. But you know, I
Speaker 1: also was writing this book. You wrote a book, was
Speaker 1: just going to say talking about Actually it's starting in March.
Speaker 1: We had heavy duty um editing, I mean a major rewrite,
Speaker 1: you know, completely restructured from March until I want to
Speaker 1: say towards the end of the summer. So I mean
Speaker 1: I I the fact that there was nothing to do
Speaker 1: and nowhere to go was really kind of So you
Speaker 1: finished the book, and when does it come out? Then February.
Speaker 1: It's called When Your Child Has a Chronic Medical Illness,
Speaker 1: A Guide for the Parenting Journey, and you can preorder
Speaker 1: it on on Amazon. Everybody you can preorder it. And
Speaker 1: you know, so if you know anybody, he's got a
Speaker 1: kid with a chronic medical illness. Um, it's something. It's
Speaker 1: somewhere between fourteen and of kids have some kind of
Speaker 1: chronical medical illness, some kind of chronic illness. UM. So
Speaker 1: we're getting really I'm really pleased for getting great reviews
Speaker 1: and great feedback. People are really saying this is going
Speaker 1: to be helpful to a lot of people, help people
Speaker 1: on that level. Yeah, we're excited. Rea didn't support you.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's so nice hanging out with you. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, what you said is so true, Like
Speaker 1: it makes me sad. We had this same conversation with Gabrielle,
Speaker 1: Like we're super close with her now, but back then
Speaker 1: it kind of didn't always work that way. And it's
Speaker 1: just it makes me sad that we missed out on
Speaker 1: like these amazing people pretending conversations. Yeah, we just didn't know.
Speaker 1: I know. I feel that way about college. Do you remember, Carol,
Speaker 1: all the little love triangles that happened on the side
Speaker 1: off stage from the triangles? Yeah, do you remember any
Speaker 1: of them? You know, I would go into the wardrobe
Speaker 1: department and say, okay, tell me what's going on. I
Speaker 1: had I had no idea what was going on, but
Speaker 1: I really didn't see you guys. You know, we didn't
Speaker 1: have scenes together until well, remember they sent me to
Speaker 1: graduate school in counseling. That's what wait, what what did
Speaker 1: you hear? The rumors were, Oh god, I don't even remember. Well,
Speaker 1: I of course the big the big thing was the
Speaker 1: Jenny Shannon, Who's going to wear the red dress? That's
Speaker 1: the one, the red dress. The red dress was that?
Speaker 1: That was you? That was all you. It wasn't all me,
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't the red dress? You and me? Well? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: in the course, then they had you show up at
Speaker 1: the prom in the same dress pitted yea, was that
Speaker 1: happened first? Right? That happened first. That happened early in
Speaker 1: the show, and they kind of created that they pitted
Speaker 1: Kelly and Brenda against each other and made Kelly Steel
Speaker 1: Brenda's boyfriend. And yeah, I mean I didn't have it.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a chance in their friendship, right, but
Speaker 1: they did. They seemed to overcome it, Kelly, Kelly and
Speaker 1: Brenda and remain friends for the whole show as far
Speaker 1: as I remember, is that right? You're still friends? I do? Well,
Speaker 1: did she come on you know when they not the
Speaker 1: rebook but the one before. Um, yeah, I was on
Speaker 1: it for a couple episodes and um, I persuaded her
Speaker 1: to come on, And no, she was not on it
Speaker 1: for a couple of episodes. I feel like it was
Speaker 1: like three episodes. You were on probably twenty two episodes.
Speaker 1: We have this argument someone you guys talking about the
Speaker 1: nine two oh with like then got I am dbat
Speaker 1: all the youngsters that show. I feel like I was
Speaker 1: only there for three episodes or whatever. Um, but Shannon
Speaker 1: did come in for an episode in my and then
Speaker 1: you came in Missy for an episode maybe maybe twenty two.
Speaker 1: I was on two episodes. I think Shannon was on
Speaker 1: maybe two episodes, and you were on like twenty or
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes. That's not true. I always you were. Basically,
Speaker 1: it was all about you all to come in and
Speaker 1: joined the You would like the the guidance counselor, right.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be fun if Cindy came in
Speaker 1: to be under you as a new guidance counselor, having
Speaker 1: gotten her you know, counseling degree and everything. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I thought that would be an interesting sort of Well,
Speaker 1: when when Jan and I produced and I know too
Speaker 1: one O the musical. We'll make that up. It's coming
Speaker 1: out soon. Well before you go, Carol, we are going
Speaker 1: to have to wrap soon, unfortunately, but before you go,
Speaker 1: we have to we play a fun little game on here,
Speaker 1: and it's um kiss Mary kicked to the curb. God,
Speaker 1: we don't use kill because kills just still so aggressive,
Speaker 1: too harsh. Yeah, it's too aggressive. So you can pick
Speaker 1: any of the boys from the cast. Kiss, We know
Speaker 1: this one now? Yeah, I feel who would you marry
Speaker 1: and who would you kick to the kick to the guys? Character? Character?
Speaker 1: Or does it matter? I don't think she made me
Speaker 1: play character? No, you made me? Would you make me
Speaker 1: play real? We did characters? Okay, No, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I'm lying. I think just go with your gut. What
Speaker 1: about Jim? We should should we include him in the
Speaker 1: list of boys? Jim just the boy? So we've got Brian, Luke, Jason, Iron,
Speaker 1: I am Jason. So those four and you're gonna ignore
Speaker 1: one already we had to do it, don't worry. Okay,
Speaker 1: can you get to play? I'm sorry, I'm so slow.
Speaker 1: Kiss Mary and get rid of her. Which used to
Speaker 1: be I believe a word starting with F was the kiss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's definitely no hesitation there. Uh Mary, Um Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm marry Brian. And then um, I have I mean,
Speaker 1: I have to ignore Jason. He played my son. It's
Speaker 1: just too creepy. It gets weird. Perfect. She came to
Speaker 1: the curve. Good job, Carol, Okay, we're all hunks. Was
Speaker 1: so happy you came in and hung out for inviting
Speaker 1: me come back and play with us. Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I sometimes get an arguments we're gonna need you, We're
Speaker 1: gonna need our therapist stand by. I love that you
Speaker 1: think you guys wrote it in the script that you
Speaker 1: had decided to start seeing me. Well, you're you're the
Speaker 1: best therapist in town. Why wouldn't we That's right, that's right,
Speaker 1: and everybody go pick up her book or preorder Carol's
Speaker 1: book and support her. That'd be nice. Yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: all for having me. This is yeah. And you'll have
Speaker 1: to tell us off the show what Luke whispered in
Speaker 1: your ear because we know you remember. Yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you that off the show. Okay, fine, let's start a
Speaker 1: group chat BI Carol, Bi, Carol to you so much
Speaker 1: of love. I'm so glad our relationship has got to
Speaker 1: the place where we can really enjoy each other. Me too,
Speaker 1: us too. Bye bye. That was so funny. Guys, do
Speaker 1: you feel like I feel like I just had a
Speaker 1: therapy session? Kind of My heart is so full right now.
Speaker 1: She's so like easy to talk to and just like chill,
Speaker 1: I mean that, like we missed ten years with a
Speaker 1: great woman and we didn't even know. Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to ever do that again. Like we judge people
Speaker 1: because of their age, like, oh, she wasn't in our
Speaker 1: team group, so like, yeah, but I learned just so
Speaker 1: much as it didn't just not wired that way. You're
Speaker 1: you can't see outside yourself and that's not that's not
Speaker 1: a negative thing. Or we're talking badly about teas their
Speaker 1: brains aren't developed in a way that they can appreciate
Speaker 1: the landscape. M hmm, you're right. Well, you know who
Speaker 1: else is in this episode is Lynda Thompson. She plays
Speaker 1: Kelly's mom's best friends, the girl that's laying out at
Speaker 1: the pool with her. Right. So, she was married to
Speaker 1: Bruce Jenner. They had Brandon and Brodie Jenner, and then
Speaker 1: she married David Foster. Oh, she was married to Bruce Jenner. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: formally yeah, okay, and like Brodie Jenner who was on
Speaker 1: the Hills and stepbrothers the Kardashians, Like, okay, didn't she
Speaker 1: date Elvis at one point? Because I remember something about
Speaker 1: when we were filming the show and that we were
Speaker 1: filming that scene when Brenda and Kelly walk up to
Speaker 1: them at the pool. I remember the crew kind of
Speaker 1: being like, she's that girls dated Elvis, and that was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she dated el I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. That hands down Trump's the Kardashians. Sorry, that's
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by that. Yeah, dating Elvis is pretty cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Well, let's take a break and when we
Speaker 1: come back, we need to talk about the fashion from
Speaker 1: this episode, because now we touched on mom jeans a
Speaker 1: little bit, and then Carol brought up like the fifties
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Um, but there was some fashion
Speaker 1: from this episode Fashion Show. All right, let's talk about fashion.
Speaker 1: It was the fashion show episode. So there was a
Speaker 1: lot of like fancy, fancy fashion going on my cat walk,
Speaker 1: well sophisticated. Yeah, you had you had the bikini that
Speaker 1: was That was a bikini before my boop drop. And
Speaker 1: Kelly didn't get to walk because her mom ruined everything.
Speaker 1: I know, poor kill all dressed up and nowhere to go.
Speaker 1: You're still wearing the dress at the end of the night.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to take it off too much, too
Speaker 1: much trauma. No. I thought that Carol looked so good
Speaker 1: in that red dress. It just hit her like perfect,
Speaker 1: such a beautiful woman, beautiful neckline on that dress with
Speaker 1: all the beating in details. What did you guys see
Speaker 1: the speaking of mom jeans, the jeans that Brenda was
Speaker 1: wearing in the kitchen and then at school and then
Speaker 1: the little bus hanging out the cut, there was like
Speaker 1: a yeah right below the cheeks on the back of
Speaker 1: her jeans. It was like written, pet I feel like
Speaker 1: Shannon always wore her own jeans. Oh really, I think so? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that was her jam those sat She has great
Speaker 1: style and at the time, I feel like she wore
Speaker 1: a lot of her own stuff and definitely her own jeans.
Speaker 1: How do we feel as mom's having your daughter walk
Speaker 1: out of the house and those jeans. I would be like, no,
Speaker 1: go put on some pants that actually cover your ass please.
Speaker 1: She would say that, Oh my god. Sometimes I feel
Speaker 1: awkward when I come over and I'm like, loa, you
Speaker 1: look hot. I'm like, what am I doing? Like it's like,
Speaker 1: but it's hard, like if it's not your own, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, they're my friends kids, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: they look great, but yeah, when it's your own, I'm like,
Speaker 1: m no, yeah, it's really fun mom. But now I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be super strict. No. Stella is
Speaker 1: twelve and I tell her all the time, like you
Speaker 1: can't wear that, and she shook. But her thing is
Speaker 1: because now there's like TikTok and everything. So she's like,
Speaker 1: here's girls my age, they're all wearing it. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you say? I know what you would say,
Speaker 1: you say, they're they're not wearing it. But for me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, I wasn't able to express myself growing
Speaker 1: up like a lot like it was very like my
Speaker 1: mom had great style, but she bought my clothes and
Speaker 1: not un till I was older was I able to
Speaker 1: kind of say this is what I want to wear.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I give a lot of free
Speaker 1: range to my kids. They want to color their hair,
Speaker 1: they want to dress a certain way. I do it.
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to say no. But I'm
Speaker 1: old fashioned inside, so I'm like, it doesn't feel right.
Speaker 1: You're too young. It's hard and I find myself sounding
Speaker 1: like a mom. I was like, you have your whole
Speaker 1: life to grow up and be an adult, like be
Speaker 1: a kid now. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, we are
Speaker 1: slowly becoming our parents. I think I know, man, And
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Yeah too. She chugs her wine.
Speaker 1: Well did you guys, did anybody have a favorite line
Speaker 1: in this episode? I did, um, and I was actually
Speaker 1: one from Cindy Walsh. She said it's the law of
Speaker 1: nature no girl can ever appreciate their own mother. That
Speaker 1: really resonated with me, and I was just like, gosh,
Speaker 1: it's like I remember growing up in in high school.
Speaker 1: I think we're all embarrassed of our mom's at least
Speaker 1: I was, and especially me because like my mom spoke
Speaker 1: Spanish all the time, and we grew up in this
Speaker 1: white neighborhood and all I wanted to do was just
Speaker 1: fit in. And I felt like I just didn't it in,
Speaker 1: and uh, it just really resonated me. And I'm just like, man, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready for these teenage battles that I'm going
Speaker 1: to have with my daughter one day, Like I just
Speaker 1: I don't want them. Do you remember your friends coming
Speaker 1: over and always getting along with your mom? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: all my friends and my mom is the coolest. And
Speaker 1: I was like how and she Now I look back
Speaker 1: and I love my mom so much, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: you get it after you go to college and like
Speaker 1: grow up, but when you're a teenager, they're the most
Speaker 1: embarrassing thing on the planet to you. Yeah, And now
Speaker 1: when teens come to my house, like my friends, my
Speaker 1: kids friends, I there's so many emotions going on in
Speaker 1: my head when they're like, Okay, I gotta be cool.
Speaker 1: I gotta act like the kids want me to act.
Speaker 1: But then I gotta say something that that guy might like,
Speaker 1: and oh, then I start if I start relating to
Speaker 1: the child, God forbid, we actually like relate and have
Speaker 1: a conversation, and my kid is like in the corner, cringing,
Speaker 1: probably saying, let's go hang out. It's so hard to
Speaker 1: be a mom. But once again, you will always have
Speaker 1: a leg up because you will be Kelly Taylor. But
Speaker 1: through a lot you were. You were holed up in
Speaker 1: a warehouse for ten years. As you put it, here's kid.
Speaker 1: Other kids will always be like, wow, cool, mom, Kelly Taylor.
Speaker 1: Both of you actually truly Yeah, that's crazy. How about you?
Speaker 1: Any favorite lines? Um one and one one? The only
Speaker 1: one I can think of right now is when Jackie
Speaker 1: it's all coked out and she says, I I can't
Speaker 1: be everything to everybody, and then Kelly says, when you're drinking, mom,
Speaker 1: you're nothing to nobody. Powerful, really good. I'm gonna tear
Speaker 1: up right now. So I feel. I felt, so I
Speaker 1: felt all the feelings that Kelly was feeling and being
Speaker 1: in her position, and and then I also felt the
Speaker 1: other side, the part, the Jackie's part. Her life is
Speaker 1: falling apart and she doesn't have anybody but Kelly and
Speaker 1: you know she's doesn't. She needs help to kind of
Speaker 1: get her life back on track. And I just felt
Speaker 1: for both of them so much more in the night
Speaker 1: realized I would like your room was iconic always. We
Speaker 1: didn't see my room in this episode. Not in this episode,
Speaker 1: we saw you the mom's room and that weird keyboard
Speaker 1: and TV wester her nightstand. Security is that like it
Speaker 1: felt like more e though, right house, that house, you
Speaker 1: know what, you can still drive by that house. It's
Speaker 1: long long avenue in studio, Yes, neighborhood is if you
Speaker 1: drive up and looked on your right, you can see
Speaker 1: the exterior of that house. And we shot the exter
Speaker 1: of that house as Kelly's exter, and I think we
Speaker 1: shot some of the interiors that like Jackie's room was
Speaker 1: in that house, but the house was like seriously eighties
Speaker 1: with the glass block and the round walls. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: still very cool. It was cool they were Jackie and
Speaker 1: Kelly were like artsy, I guess, yeah, modern lady, very
Speaker 1: less than zero. Yeah, that her room did have like
Speaker 1: a control panel next to the bed like she was
Speaker 1: driving his faceship. Yeah, like who's going to type on
Speaker 1: the keyboard on the wall. But that was a real house,
Speaker 1: that was a real situation in somebody's hut. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So that again was another person's house that you guys
Speaker 1: would just come and rent out for the day and
Speaker 1: then you do your scenes and you'd leaves. So fascinating me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people do that all the time. They rent out their
Speaker 1: houses to film productions people all the time. But I
Speaker 1: think it's like I never knew, like I guess people
Speaker 1: do live there. I just thought it was like an
Speaker 1: empty house. You paid a lot of money to do it,
Speaker 1: so there's a huge incentive. But the bat downside, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the downside is they trash your house, basically mess up
Speaker 1: your walls, and you're you know, they don't they go
Speaker 1: through your drawers. At least I did area. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you're whenever you're shooting in someone's house, you're like
Speaker 1: you have to pretend like the kitchen is your kitchen.
Speaker 1: You gotta look around, you gotta see what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely do in the kitchen always, like the pantry,
Speaker 1: always the friends not like in their underwear. Dord No,
Speaker 1: that's like creepy. I was gonna talk to you after
Speaker 1: the show about that. If that's true. No, my god,
Speaker 1: so so uh. Carol's favorite episode is next week, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's our that's the show every teen year. Itch, that's
Speaker 1: everybody's homework. Can't wait. Let's watch it and we'll talk
Speaker 1: more about Carol Potter's steamy performance. Yeah. I love it,
Speaker 1: the one that she's that was her favorite with mom.
Speaker 1: She's a saucy like you can tell like Carol's got
Speaker 1: it going on. I want to go out for drinks
Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, I like it. Well that's it, guys,
Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks for hanging out with us, Happy New Year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep up the great work. Is the first week of
Speaker 1: January down, Let's keep going. Yeah, well, love you guys,
Speaker 1: Love you to watch episode eight