WEBVTT - How Sexy is Mrs. Walsh??!!! (S1, E7 “Perfect Mom”) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.160 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Happy New Year, 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:15.440 you hose year, you get it nine or two one 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:20.759 hose ho ho the three of us we made you guys. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.280 Don't drink it yet. Things are going well so far. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:31.880 Do you know what? It's kind of cool like no expectations, right, yeah, 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.920 because you know what, it can't get much worse and well, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.280 I never know what. I have no control over anything. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:44.040 You're right soized that. M hmmm. Did you guys make 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.000 any New Year's resolutions? Yeah? I already broke mine. Oh 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.320 I broke mine too, that's where my best friends. Yes, sis, 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.640 what was your resolution to not drink drink less wine? 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:59.160 Not drink less red wine? Oh my god, that's so funny. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:00.760 I love that you guys have to drink, not to 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.960 have to, but you enjoy drinking during the podcast, And 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.600 if I were to drink, I would be horrible, Like 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.280 I can. This is like considered being on the job 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.440 for me, I know, but we use this as like 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.039 this is our our our date night. Yeah, totally, it's true, 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:16.880 and that's so funny. This is your day job and 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.360 for us. I just I was just thinking, like lounge singers, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:25.279 this is our night job. We moonlight as podcasters, drunk 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.280 on the job. So did you watch the episode that 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:32.760 we're talking about? This? Yes? Did anybody that was That 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.000 was our homework We were supposed to watch its perfect mom, 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:44.440 Perfect mom. Uh. This show aired November. Brenda envies Kelly's 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.560 relationship with her hip looking mom until she sees another 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:55.360 side at a public event where Andrea shines. Andrea shines 0:01:55.360 --> 0:02:01.880 at a public event. I'm there, Oh my gosh, I 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.840 can literally remember filming this episode, Like I remember that 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.280 runway and like, I bet you do. You had to 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.480 wear a freaking but knee in front of all those people, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:19.040 and I would like, you, you're a little but so 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:23.720 adorable chicks, so cute, remember when I had a little 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:29.120 but oh it's really I have a mama, But you're 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:35.080 adorable and your and your mom was rocking a bathing 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.720 suit on the runway too, But that was my mom, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.040 who wasn't my mom? Yeah, I feel like they hired 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.160 her just because she looked great in a bikini. So 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:47.240 that bikini I wore was my own bikini, And I 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.480 was like, I don't know if you ever did this. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.600 I used to buy bikinis my friends and I like 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.359 other friends, not like you guys. Um in high school, 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.640 we would buy like teen sizes, Like if you were seventeen, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.440 like you would wear an adult small. You would buy 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.440 like a teen preteen or a teen bikini so it 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:12.840 would fit itsy bitsy. So I was wearing probably like yeah, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.400 I was like seventeen, wearing like third Tchenerrals Borkini. None 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:20.760 of this is sounding good. Sorry, well now they have those, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.320 like really like string bikinis. They didn't have them. Then 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.920 that's interesting. You were wearing a string bikini before. It 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:31.960 was cool. I guess your button, she's hanging out. But 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.960 that wasn't even my mom. That was that she was 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.240 a weird really weird to see a different woman as 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.920 your mom. Yeah, different name too, was it? Nancy? Nancy Martin? 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:49.480 Nancy Martin? You're right, that crazy, not Fleece. This episode 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:55.240 was a lot of like Kelly's home turmoil, you don't 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.360 really know what's going on, Like I love that because 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.520 you always think everybody's got it better than you, everybody's 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:07.360 life is simpler, better, easier, And then you get to 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.320 see behind the curtain a little bit on this episode, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.960 and it was a lot about the moms too, so 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.920 Kelly's mom and then Brenda's mom. Who, by the way, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.520 what Carol Potter, We'll be joining us very shortly. If not, 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:27.000 she might be here already, Carol, Carol there, all of us, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.880 what are your memories with her? So we luckily just 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.040 got to see her last summer. Last summer, well now 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.880 it's two summers ago for b H nine O two now, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.960 and she flew up to Vancouver and we all got 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.039 to work together and it was so great to be 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:42.680 with her. It was just like, so, she was a 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.800 therapist on the show, but she's really a therapist in 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.000 real life. Now, yes, I thought that was just that 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.839 was that was because she was a therapist in real life. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:57.720 The Carol, thank you for coming and being on our podcast. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.520 All our hair is long, isn't it? Because none of 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.920 us are getting haircuts, Torry, I have never seen your 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:12.159 hair that long. I paid for all of it. It's 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.880 gotta gotta find something. But yeah, I mean as far 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.159 as the therapist thing goes. Um. After I left the show, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.280 I went back to school. I got a master's. I 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:26.520 did my three thousand hours working with clients and getting 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.400 supervision and stuff. And actually the best part. You know, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:34.200 I did a soap that your father also produced. That's right, yes, yes, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.600 Sunset Beach. And the great thing about that soap was 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.719 I was that was when I was getting all my 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.880 hours and my training, and because I already had the 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:50.600 job the the because the training thing was already established, 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.120 they were really helpful and sort of working around my schedule. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.280 And you know, soaps are different in in Back in 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.080 the day, you had to be there morning till night 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.560 because they got in sequence. There was no editing. But 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.920 now they just edited all on a computer. It's really 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.360 fast and easy, so you can do all the scenes 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.760 in one location at the same time. Right. So I 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.560 would go on the set and it would be all 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.360 about me, me, me, you know, my hair, my hair, 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.280 and my makeup and my wardrobe and my motivation and 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.800 my emotions and all that stuff. And then I go 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.359 to the therapy room and it'd be all about the him, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.719 and I could just forget about myself, leave myself completely behind. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:35.280 It was such a great sort of balance. I would 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:36.920 have done that the rest of my life. But of 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:43.480 course soaps tied so didn't work out quite that way. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.800 We wrote, We wrote into b H nine two, I 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.680 know that you did a group therapy session for the cast, 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.200 and I thought that was so fun because you really 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:57.160 were a therapists. So when we filmed that, were you thinking, well, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.200 if there's no hope for these people, I can have 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:06.000 them therapist fans like really like the die hard fans 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.040 know that you're a therapist the background. But I wonder 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.200 if other people watching or just like, oh, I wonder 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.280 why they cast her as the therapist. They probably didn't 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.880 get it. It's a lot of people didn't. Every does 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.560 say it. In the scene, she says, she is a 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:25.000 licensed therapist. And I've had I've had all kinds of 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:32.840 things with clients coming in and I came in and 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.360 I've had I had a couple. I have worked with 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.800 them for months and months and months, and they finally 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.960 I think they were breaking up. So we were ending 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.160 the work together and at the very last session, he says, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.040 don't you recognize her? She's the mom from And I'm going, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.920 oh my god. He was with me all this time 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.520 and he never said a word I would. You're a legend, 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.200 Like everyone knows who you are, Like, there's not anyone 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.600 that sees you that doesn't recognize you. Do you feel 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.400 the need with all of your patients to say, like 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.520 to get it out of the way and say something 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.600 or no, I think there's always in the back of 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.760 your head. No, I leave it to them at the moment. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.600 Most of my clients are kind of older than um 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.800 then the you know, the key demographic. But there's no 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.160 question that I have that it's you know, if we're 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:28.600 a different role, it would be a problem. But because 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:37.400 Cindy was everybody's understanding, you know, heartfelt, welcoming everyone, all 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:42.840 of that stuff, it really segues into the natural transition. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.960 I would lose my mind if I come to a 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.240 session and saw that it it was you, and I'd be like, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.880 oh my God, and I would fan girl out. And 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.079 here's the thing, I got a bone to pick with you. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.640 Like you became a therapist, but all of those years 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.960 before that, you never helped us. We had so many issues. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:05.760 We did you where we can tell you every every 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.800 single interview that I did for you know, to be 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:13.160 your radio or newspapers or what they always ask, Oh 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.240 do the kids come to you for advice? I'm going 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:23.720 are you kidding? Now? Now? I wish I had to Jesus, Well, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.200 you guys, you know, you were in your own you 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.720 you were trying to figure it out on your own. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.640 And I mean I didn't really have much advice. We're 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.960 just we're just on the first season of the show, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.800 which is all about the Walsh family and then moving 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.439 to Beverly Hills, and and it's we've commented that it 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:49.920 seems like in every scene Mama Walsh was like either 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.320 cooking something, barbecuing something, or gardening. Those are the three 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.560 things that you were allowed to do as a character, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.760 at least so far. Do you remember that we had 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.760 this whole um. There was a whole story about me 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:10.360 becoming uh like a landscape contractor oh like a Mrs Miyagi. Yes, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.640 we haven't got and and and Jim was reluctant because 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.880 he was going to custom more in taxes. And finally 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.680 at the end of the episode he says, okay, you 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.160 can you know, you can go get a license to 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.080 be an Isn't that funny? Let you think, But then 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:30.000 the people at Fox apparently said no, no, she can't. No, 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.800 not real money. Why she's not allowed to make money 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.520 just to stay home and cook the meals for the teenagers. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.600 I don't even know why, But I just got it's 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.960 my dad's show. I just felt shame from head to toe. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.840 What that is infuriating? Sorry, well I don't think it 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.959 was his fault, but still, you know what I mean? 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.880 Oh my god, different time, but but you looked hot 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.160 in every episode like you were the milf you were 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.800 so I mean nothing that we're saying you were, but 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.040 you are. You're such a beautiful woman. But that that 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.840 was thirty years ago. And we every time I see 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.920 you on screen and we always comment about it is 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.800 how hot Carol Potter is. And yeah, truly, like, oh 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.440 my gosh, like that storylines they didn't do like what 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.360 you called her an h f D Jenny. Was I 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:27.520 right potty for days? Oh my goodness, so flattered? You know. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:32.360 I was never the hottie in my career. Um, you know, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.800 I went from sister to mother like within a year. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.760 And the year that I became mom, I had a 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:45.120 baby and a ten year old, so there was it 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.920 was something I passed the threshold, and um, I never 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.280 went back. I was mom for the rest of my days. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.079 You're kidding it? How how old do you mind just 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.520 asking how old you were when you start at the show? Um, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:05.600 well it was ninety. I was forty two, so I 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:12.640 was younger than that. Gosh, yes, yeah, and like at 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.680 our age, at our age, like we're still fighting to 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.920 be like, we're still sex symbols when we do something 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.640 like and wow, like you know what you were the 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.600 girl next door? You were Maryanne from Gilligan's Island, and 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.600 every boy wanted Marianne at the end of the day, 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:33.160 not Ginger. So you won. Well that was yes, everyone, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.360 everyone didn't remind I did remind everyone of somebody they knew, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.760 Is that right. The other thing that's funny is, you know, 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.760 a lot of people recognize me, but they can't always 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.600 place me, so they'll say things like, were you a 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:55.440 teacher at my high school? Get that too? Did we 0:12:55.440 --> 0:13:00.319 go to school together? I feel like I know you 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:05.440 did you know? Yeah, we're there are classmates. Did you 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:10.120 watch this episode? Perfect mom um, oh, I remember that episode? 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.280 That was a big episode. Yeah. Well, you know, Annie, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.079 Annie Gillespie and I are still great friends. You are, 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.400 that's awesome. She you know, she and I grew up 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.360 in two towns right next to each other in New Jersey. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:27.440 And Glesbie, who played Kelly Taylor's mom, Jackie. Yeah. Throughout 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.720 the entire series. Yeah, and this episode really focuses on Jackie. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.200 Yes and her. This is when we're doing the fashion show, right, 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:41.600 fancy dress. The thing I remember most about this show, Kelly, 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.000 is how many times wait, wait, hold on, you just 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.040 called me Kelly, and I just want to point it out. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.840 I love it. And here's the funny part. I ruined 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:57.040 at least three takes calling me Jenny. I kept saying Jenny, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.200 and people would look at me and I, you know, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.720 I didn't even know what I'd done wrong. And now 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.960 I call you Kelly. There's no rhyme or reason. Time 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:11.120 you said something in that episode, UM that I really 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.720 resonated with me as a grown woman now and of teenagers. Um. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.920 I see everything so differently as I watched the show now, 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.720 because when I when I watched, when I was in it, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.760 I didn't know what was happening. I didn't really understand 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.480 anything outside my little brain bubble. But now watching it, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.480 you said something in the kitchen I think was to 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.240 Brenda when she was trying to get you to hang 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:38.800 out with Kelly's mom. You were like, um, yeah, well, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.720 I'm sure she's really nice. I'm paraphrasing. But she's really nice, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.440 but we're just different. I don't really want to be 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.280 friends with her. Basically, we're just different. And Brenda got 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.600 all upset about that, thinking that you, you know, were 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.320 you thought you were better than her. But that wasn't 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.280 the case at all. You you just kind of felt 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.640 like your friend, your your personalities didn't meet up. Maybe well, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.880 I suspect that, you know, I was. Cindy probably felt 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:05.120 a little intimidated somebody. I mean she had been a big, 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:14.080 you know, star model and had this, you know, big career, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:18.360 and I'm m a stay at home mom and I've 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.840 been all my cooking. What do you think was the 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:28.280 best dish Cindy Walsh made? Oh god? Did we ever? Do? 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.680 You can remember you tasting a lot of the dishes? 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.760 I have this memory and in my mom we all 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:42.560 remember it of you eating all the property. She didn't 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.800 want to waste it. I love it. It's the Scott 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.920 in me. You know, did you ever get like a 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:52.000 stomach ache from from the spray that they sprayed on it? Nope? Nope, no, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:59.280 I mean I probably couldn't do it now because my 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.760 little Tom, he's more sensitive. She was so tiny and 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.240 had the best body, and yeah, you would. You would 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.280 eat all the eating and I'd be like, wow, eat anything. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:16.880 Rarely used a spit bucket too, I just would eat it. Wait, 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:20.640 there's spit buckets. Well, you have to eat the same 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.240 thing over and over again. Yeah, they give you a 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.200 spit bucket so you don't have to actually eat the 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.560 whole thing. Interesting as soon as they cut, like they 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.840 do that in commercials, especially because otherwise, you know, you 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:37.320 be eating three or four or five hamburgers and would 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.440 be bad. That would be bad. But I felt I 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.520 felt like sorry for Cindy in that episode in a 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:49.480 different way than I did for like Relate. I related 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.280 to you a lot more as a mom, and I 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.080 felt sad that you felt like she didn't want you 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.560 at the fashion show. That broke my heart. Yeah, this episode, 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.360 I literally cried probably three times. And it was so 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.240 embarrassing because I was sitting there watching it with my 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.160 kid and my husband and my Fiona was like, why 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.720 are you crying? I said, I cry when I see 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.000 me cry on TV, Like when I'm watching myself cry, 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.280 it makes me cry because I feel all the feelings again. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.840 And then I look over and my husband's got he's 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.600 got a tear. He had a tear too, so well, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.320 you know that's that was one of the things that 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.040 I think made this show so strong and appealing was 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.159 that it did have a very strong emotional tug on 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.399 the audience. I mean, you were really we got people 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.520 rooting for everybody, you know, even the bad people, the 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.040 bad characters, you know, right, even when the main characters 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.399 would go through bad things, the audience would kind of 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.080 ride that way with them. And yeah, yeah, it reminded 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.480 me of us now, Jen as school moms. Do you 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.280 remember a conversation we had where I think we're working 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.159 at Mystery Girls, and I was frazzled because I had 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.959 come from school from drop off and I have this 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.320 innate to this day feeling of like I want everyone 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.280 to like me. I want to fit in. And I 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.240 still remember the conversation we had because you said I 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:14.480 was late and so why are you lad? And I said, 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:15.919 because I had to say hi to everyone, because if 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.960 I don't, They're going to think I'm a bit They're 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.399 they're not gonna like me. And you were like, but 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.719 your priority are the kids, Like, it doesn't matter if 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.000 they like you, And I was like, how are you 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.120 at school? You're like, I go in. My head's down 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.080 and I go And I respected that. I learned so 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.399 much because I was like, she's right, like if you 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.800 become friends with someone great, but trying to have to 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.760 fit in, it's different. Now we're not doing it for us, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.320 We're doing it for our kids. We don't have to 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.240 fit in. So I don't know, it's not always take 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.320 that story, and I always think of you all the time. 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.000 I had an incident at Christopher's school. One of the 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.600 older you know, Christopher was like age three to eight 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:58.320 those those first five years, and um, there was a 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.480 girl at his school who you know, she's probably nine 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.280 or ten, you know, so she's quite a bit older 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.680 than him. And I guess the the the head of 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.760 the school was a friend of mine, and she said, 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.320 you know, some of the girls are you know, want 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.320 to ask you about nine o two? You know? You know, 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.520 so I did. I took a little moment with them 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.880 and I said, you know, I appreciate that you liked 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.959 the show and everything, but you know, this this place 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:29.639 is Christopher's place, and I don't I want to respect 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.800 that this is this is the place where he shines 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.760 and he's it's all about him and they were so 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.560 they totally got it because they're going to the same school, right, 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.239 they wanted the same thing for themselves. So, um, so 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.600 that was nice. They gosh, you are Cindy Wall she 0:19:47.800 --> 0:20:02.080 you are. Do you remember your audition story, like your 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.600 audition for the show? Oh? God, yes, I mean, um, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.280 I don't remember the first audition so much. Oh, this 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.680 is what I remember. I mean, I've been out of 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.840 work for a while, and every time I had an 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.600 audition and I didn't hear back right away, I would 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.200 just dissolve into tears because I was convinced I would 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.680 never work again. But the one, the one I really remember, though, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.360 was the one that your dad was at Tory, because 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.560 you know, you walk into those rooms and they're all 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.720 these guys sitting there and they're just looking at you. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.600 Your father it comes right up to me, shakes my 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.639 hand and he said, Hi, I'm Aaron Spelling, thank you 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.080 for coming in. And I thought, wow, nobody does that. 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:44.919 You know, he never forgot what it was like to 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.119 be an actor, even though he became a big producer, 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.919 And um, that just impressed me so much and it 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.520 put me at ease. Right, he loved actor so much 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.159 because he came from it. You're right, Oh my gosh. 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.840 I wonder was up against you. I wonder who looks 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.160 back and was like, no could be. I think there 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.480 was two of us. But do you remember, like the 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.080 like your first time on the set. Do you remember 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.840 what it was like to kind of come and remember 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.880 I had a different husband. Yes, that's right, Tell everyone, 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:24.240 Tell everyone. Linman Ward was a wonderful actor. He's about 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:28.120 six too. I think he's ver very tall. I think 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:32.720 was one of the problems, these short children, these two 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:39.000 tall parents, and then you know, I think he I 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.480 think his quality he was too sort of urbane and sophisticated. 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.080 It didn't ring sort of it didn't provide enough contrast. 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.119 Maybe that's my guests. I mean, I don't know what. 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:53.280 So somebody else was cast as Jim Walsh in the beginning, 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:58.960 but they reshot, they reshot those scenes for the pilot. Yeah. Well, 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.800 if you watched like you'll see that Jim is often 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:08.040 standing in a doorway. By the rest of the he 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.480 went on to start on something big after that. Oh 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:16.120 he was, but something after I can't remember. But but yes, 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.560 I think you're right, I think goodness. But I did 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.920 read with Jim and the other fellow who was reading 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.600 for that part that they were going to replace him with, 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:29.440 and I was rooting for Jim. We heard, we heard 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.520 that you had a little crush on a couple of 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:43.280 the actors, maybe Luke Hurt. You had the biggest crush 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.440 on Luke. I think everybody that came up joke about 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:50.000 it all the time. He would flirt with you. I 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.040 remember that. I remember how he'd go up and just 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:58.920 hold you, like nuzzle you and get dirty to each other. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:06.680 What would he say? I said, like I said, it's 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:10.040 always something inappropriate. He was whispering into your ear. But 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.760 what do you remember, Harold Potter just said he talked 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:19.520 dirty to me. He whispered it. And she's giggling. She's 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:24.560 giggling the way you giggle over you can't see. I'm sure. 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:30.080 I'm my cheeks are very hot. It's so interesting. I 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.919 didn't remember it to you said it, and then I 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.439 can have the visual of him, like seeing you in 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.199 the hallway and going up to you and putting his 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:40.000 hands on your waist and talking. Yeah, I'm seeing it 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:44.480 right now. She's really having to tell us one thing 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:49.359 he said that wasn't too dirty. Oh, if I can 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:53.800 remember anything in particular exactly, you know we had that. Oh, 0:23:54.240 --> 0:24:00.720 Mrs Mrs Walsh, I should have enough. Ms Robinson, gravely 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:07.239 lovely having affair with Dylan. Oh, I can imagine. We 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:11.399 thought that would be fun. Actually mentioned it was Grand 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:20.359 shown from m Grand Show from Melrose Place, and we 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.800 were sitting on a wall at one point and he's 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.800 looking at me, says, we should be having the affair, 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.240 having the you know, the younger man, older woman affair. 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.280 But what is happening? The star of nine two, the 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.239 Star of Melrose Placed. They were all hitting on you, 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.960 Carol Potter. The whole side of you is revealed today. 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.680 I love the hubbub love it so much because we've 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.439 rewatching these episodes, Like we couldn't see it when we 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.359 were in it, but now re watching it, we were 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:49.760 saying the same thing, like beautiful, beautiful. Yeah we didn't really, 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.280 we didn't really take the time to look at you 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.320 much because we're so worried about what we look like. 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.639 But now we're watching it, you looked amazing and you 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.760 were You're acting was so great and I feel like 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:08.520 I personally just didn't appreciate your amazing contribution fusion to 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.960 the show at that time. Well, you know, I have 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.280