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Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Happy New Year,

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Speaker 1: you hose year, you get it nine or two one

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Speaker 1: hose ho ho the three of us we made you guys.

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Speaker 1: Don't drink it yet. Things are going well so far.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what? It's kind of cool like no expectations, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you know what, it can't get much worse and well,

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Speaker 1: I never know what. I have no control over anything.

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Speaker 1: You're right soized that. M hmmm. Did you guys make

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Speaker 1: any New Year's resolutions? Yeah? I already broke mine. Oh

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Speaker 1: I broke mine too, that's where my best friends. Yes, sis,

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Speaker 1: what was your resolution to not drink drink less wine?

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Speaker 1: Not drink less red wine? Oh my god, that's so funny.

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Speaker 1: I love that you guys have to drink, not to

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Speaker 1: have to, but you enjoy drinking during the podcast, And

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Speaker 1: if I were to drink, I would be horrible, Like

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Speaker 1: I can. This is like considered being on the job

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Speaker 1: for me, I know, but we use this as like

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Speaker 1: this is our our our date night. Yeah, totally, it's true,

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Speaker 1: and that's so funny. This is your day job and

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Speaker 1: for us. I just I was just thinking, like lounge singers,

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Speaker 1: this is our night job. We moonlight as podcasters, drunk

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Speaker 1: on the job. So did you watch the episode that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about? This? Yes? Did anybody that was That

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Speaker 1: was our homework We were supposed to watch its perfect mom,

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Speaker 1: Perfect mom. Uh. This show aired November. Brenda envies Kelly's

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Speaker 1: relationship with her hip looking mom until she sees another

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Speaker 1: side at a public event where Andrea shines. Andrea shines

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Speaker 1: can literally remember filming this episode, Like I remember that

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Speaker 1: and I would like, you, you're a little but so

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Speaker 1: but oh it's really I have a mama, But you're

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Speaker 1: adorable and your and your mom was rocking a bathing

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Speaker 1: her just because she looked great in a bikini. So

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Speaker 1: that bikini I wore was my own bikini, And I

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if you ever did this.

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Speaker 1: I used to buy bikinis my friends and I like

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Speaker 1: other friends, not like you guys. Um in high school,

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Speaker 1: we would buy like teen sizes, Like if you were seventeen,

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Speaker 1: was cool. I guess your button, she's hanging out. But

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Speaker 1: that wasn't even my mom. That was that she was

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Speaker 1: a weird really weird to see a different woman as

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Speaker 1: Nancy Martin? You're right, that crazy, not Fleece. This episode

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Speaker 1: really know what's going on, Like I love that because

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Speaker 1: you always think everybody's got it better than you, everybody's

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Speaker 1: and it was a lot about the moms too, so

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Speaker 1: what Carol Potter, We'll be joining us very shortly. If not,

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Speaker 1: she might be here already, Carol, Carol there, all of us,

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Speaker 1: The Carol, thank you for coming and being on our podcast.

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Speaker 1: and I thought that was so fun because you really

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Speaker 1: why they cast her as the therapist. They probably didn't

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Speaker 1: Like you became a therapist, but all of those years

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Speaker 1: do the kids come to you for advice? I'm going

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Speaker 1: did you know? Yeah, we're there are classmates. Did you

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Speaker 1: watch this episode? Perfect mom um, oh, I remember that episode?

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Speaker 1: But what is happening? The star of nine two, the

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Speaker 1: But now we're watching it, you looked amazing and you

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Speaker 1: remember Shannon coming, Oh guy came to my house. I

424
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: have to get you know, they were all concerned about

425
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: security and the guys are just going. Girls are throwing

426
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: themselves at me, want to be bad, you know, But

427
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: then you get the who's vulnerable In our culture, it's

428
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: women who are vulnerable, right, and so being thrust out

429
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: into the open. It struck me that it was much

430
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: harder for the for you girls, you women, Yes, we

431
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: didn't really it was harder for the guys, right, well,

432
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: they were. They were just chased more I think by

433
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: the girls, but I think emotionally and mentally, and it

434
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: was more taxing on on maybe the women because there

435
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: was so much more pressure on us to fulfill people's

436
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: everybody's needs, everybody's you know, what they wanted us to be.

437
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: So that was a lot. And I don't think that

438
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: the guys really took that on as much as the

439
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: girls probably did. And I also think, you know, for

440
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: for a guy to have girls throwing themselves at him

441
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: there's a certain aspect of that that he can enjoy.

442
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: But for a young woman to have strange men throwing

443
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: themselves at her feels and to have people just look

444
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: at you a different way, like objectifying you, looking at

445
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: you and and sort of sizing you up or stereotype

446
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: you and thinking that's all you are. I mean, I've

447
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: been in therapy for years, Carol, because of of that

448
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: was a really it was a lot, and I was

449
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: not equipped to handle all that went with that sort

450
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: of starting. Very few people who are able are equipped

451
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: to handle something like that at the ages that you

452
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: kids were dealing with it. You don't mind if I

453
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: call you kids? No, keep doing it. I really like it. Yeah,

454
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: with they confiding you, Carol, and during the show, would

455
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: they come to your dressing room and ask for advice?

456
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: They knew more, They probably knew more. I mean, we

457
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: thought she needs advice from anybody, should go a lot

458
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: of it. I thought. The funny Part two was Tory's

459
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: brother Randy, was in the soap that I did, so

460
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: I now worked with both of the Spelling children. There

461
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: you go. Well, I'm still amazed that you you had

462
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Luke Perry whispering naughty yeah, I love Yeah, he was,

463
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: he was. Did Jason ever flirt with you? I mean,

464
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: even though it was only pretend, it felt well weird.

465
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I never had a scene

466
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: with Jason until that episode. I don't know what this

467
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: is a sixth season or the seventh season where I

468
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: came back. How is that possible? That was the first?

469
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean just two of you. You know had plenty

470
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: with Shannon and plenty of Jim, you know, and you

471
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: and I had a great one, Tory. You came to

472
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: me for advice or something. You had this I don't know,

473
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: you were pouring your heart out to me. Do you

474
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: remember that scene? I don't even know. I wonder if

475
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: it was like when my mom cheated on my dad.

476
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember. That could have been it might have

477
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: been familiar. Yeah, because that just goes to show they

478
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: really they really played on the father son and then

479
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: the mother daughter and the father daughter. Oh and did

480
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: plenty of father daughter like a mom's boy. This is

481
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: like Theory has a connection to his mother. Why didn't

482
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: they explore that? Bizarre? Yeah, that's I think you put

483
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: the nail on the head, Tory. They didn't want to

484
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: explore that because it reminded them of when they were

485
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: teenagers and their mothers in charge of them. And we

486
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: still you know, when you live in a patriarchal system

487
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 1: and you're becoming a young man, the last thing you

488
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: want to have to admit to is the fact that

489
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: there was this woman who had control over your life.

490
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Do you think it a lot of I'm just speculating.

491
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: I love kind of talk. Do you think that a

492
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: lot of men grow into adulthood and and have like

493
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: they hold a grudge against women in general because of

494
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: that very thing ad relationship with their mother? Yeah? Bad?

495
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: Or just that no, well, um, just that sense of

496
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: being on a pedestal kind of well, there's that. I mean,

497
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: we do have moms who enable predators, right, I mean,

498
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: do you when do you remember this? Oh god, there

499
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: was this huge scandal, Yes, one of those Lakewood, Lakewood,

500
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: California's like have us who I want to say, And

501
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: there was this whole thing that the boys were putting

502
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: notches in their bed post and this one young woman

503
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: had the actually stood up and said he raped her,

504
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: and of course it just got poured on top of

505
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: her and the mother of the boy was just oh

506
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: my god, she's a slot and my son's great. And

507
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, he had slept to his sixty sixty six

508
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: girls and he's not a slot. She slept with one

509
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: and she is. I mean, the double standard was so rampant.

510
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: I was, and I was, so there are parents, There

511
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: are mothers who enabled their sons, for sure. I remember

512
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: having a really like a nice, like strong connection with

513
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Jackie with Anne who played my mom on the show,

514
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: and I always love the days when I'll be working

515
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: with her, and it just felt it felt good and

516
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: felt warm and fuzzy somehow. And I did you kind

517
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: of have that same feeling with Brenda for Shannon? No?

518
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: I No, I didn't. We weren't warm and fuzzy. I mean,

519
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: we had some nice scenes together, but I never felt

520
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: that close to Shannon. Um. I felt really close to James.

521
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean because she and you know I we're constantly

522
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: you know. I remember when Richard Rountree came to the set,

523
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: we both just glond onto him. Was like another adult

524
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: um but sorry, yeah so um. And when um Tiffany came,

525
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: she and I had a blast because she was really

526
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, she would just you know, shoot this back

527
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: and forth, and so she was a lot of camera. Well,

528
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: but I mean we would play even we were working

529
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: on the scene. I could I could really play with her.

530
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: My sense of Shannon was that she was kind of working.

531
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: She was doing her thing, and I didn't feel like

532
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: there was a lot of space for me. But you know,

533
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: it may have been different when she was working with

534
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: the rest of you guys. I'm sure it was different

535
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: with Luke. That's interesting, though, Jen, you bring that up

536
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: because like my mom on the show, Felice Martin, was

537
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: played by Catherine And why am I blinking at her

538
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: last name? Oh my gosh, But Catherine who played my

539
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: mom Felice Martin on the show. Even though she was

540
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: kind of harsh on the show, she was so warm

541
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: off camera. But I like, I felt the same way

542
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: that you felt. Like the days that I got to

543
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: work with her, I felt so much love and she

544
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: hugged me and it was like literally like having an

545
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: extension like my mom on set. So well, well, Carol,

546
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: you're a great actress because you couldn't tell I never

547
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: guessed it, no what I thought. You guys were BFFs.

548
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: So Carol, you were in a hundred and forty seven

549
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: of the two d and nine episodes. Oh my god,

550
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite? Well, seventeen year itch, I

551
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: know not, you know, I got to flirt with somebody else.

552
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: What season was? Do you know what season that was?

553
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: M do you know what season that was in? That

554
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: was the first season? That was the first season. Oh,

555
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: that's next week. Exciting Now I'm excited for the Carol.

556
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: What to look forward to? And we got to wander

557
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: around venicilt you and your old flame in old town?

558
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: Did you talked so slowly? They had to cut like

559
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: three minutes out of Were you thinking speed it up there? Romantic? Oh? No,

560
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: who's the actor? And you know that was the week

561
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: um so the week before I got married in real life,

562
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: in real life, I mean, we had this whole thing

563
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: planned out where I was. You know, first of all,

564
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: we had this wedding plan for Saturday, and then um,

565
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: they call me. Nobody has given me any information. Right

566
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: that we've done the pilot, they picked it up. It's

567
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: starting to shoot in April. Nobody's given me any information.

568
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: And they say, okay, your first call day is Saturday day.

569
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: I'm going what what Saturday? They oh, oh yeah, we're

570
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: shooting Tuesday through Saturday. I said, what the f. It's

571
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: nobody gonna tell me this. I mean, they literally didn't

572
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: tell me until I had to, you know, show up

573
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: for work. I said, you know, I'm getting married on

574
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: a Saturday in October. Okay, we'll work it out. We

575
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: work it out. So we had it set up. We

576
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: actually flipped two shows so that I would get this

577
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: one over and then shoot the next show, which I

578
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: didn't have much to do it, and then we had

579
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: a pick up day, though it shoved the whole shooting

580
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: schedule over one day, which meant that I missed my

581
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner, not until I don't know, you know, ten

582
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: ten eleven o'clock. This is why the business sucks so hard.

583
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: The next day I got married. I can't believe that

584
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: that's so typical. I don't from Broadway who got married

585
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: in between the mattenee and the evening show. They wouldn't,

586
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: but they never let them out of the show. Did

587
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: did Cindy Walsh cheat on Jim? Did you? Did she

588
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: have an affair? You kissed him? Were he kissed him?

589
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: He kissed you? That's cheating, Carol Potter. Technically you cheated

590
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: on Jim malls serious cheating. I was. I was tempted,

591
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: but I realized in time that I really loved Jim

592
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to ruin my life, so I

593
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: made the right decision. I feel like that's an episode

594
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: in every series. Yeah, like the husband of the wife,

595
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: that temptation to dip their toe in them when you

596
00:37:53,840 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: consider how how prevalent affairs are in this country. I

597
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: thought you were going to say in this industry, No, no, no,

598
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: no no, just remember you know, couples were those one

599
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: of my specialties, and the number of people who have

600
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: who have extramarital affairs is mind blowing. What's like the percentage?

601
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, I wouldn't want to guess

602
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: at a percentage, but it's way above ten. Yeah, I

603
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: would imagine above ten women. And I don't know if

604
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: it's I don't know if it's half more than half,

605
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: but it's certainly high up in that first half. Why

606
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: do you believe that typically meant? I mean, obviously it

607
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: can happen both ways, but I think typically, I hate

608
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: to say it, men cheat more than women in a marriage.

609
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Do you find that true, Carol Um? You know I

610
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: couldn't say for sure, but I know that more women

611
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: are are having affairs these days than well I'm talking

612
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: about you know, once women started going to work, they

613
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: meet people at work, and whereas if you're a housewife,

614
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: what do you have, right, you're speaking cookies, you know,

615
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: just mail man. Oh that's why they said, oh the

616
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: kid came from the milkman. Now I get it. That

617
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: was the only other man, the only other guy who

618
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: gave it out the milk mad men, didn't you? That

619
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: was my era? Yeah? Wow, we were allowed to start working.

620
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: We're allowed to be sexy, we were allowed to love interesting.

621
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: I can wear whatever we want. I mean, the range

622
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: of fashion that's available is great, although I have to

623
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: say fifties the best, nice waspy wastes and full skirts

624
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: and emphasis of the buzzard. You cannot beat fifties. Carol Potter.

625
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: I gave credit to Jenny, but I think it might

626
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: have been you that started the end of the mom jean.

627
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: It could have been is that what do you mean?

628
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: It's the biggest thing now even teens are wearing it.

629
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: You didn't ever wear mom jean. Your jeans were Yes,

630
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: you wore jeans and you were mom, so they were

631
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: technically mom jeans, but the style and the cut of

632
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: the gene that is in now because it's the highwayst

633
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: of the and you were so well yeah, god, well

634
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: you know somebody whoever had the idea that sitting your

635
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: waist at the widest part of your hips was flattering

636
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: to a woman that that person should have their heading salmon.

637
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: Oh that you mean like low waisted jeans and not

638
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: not having the tops right. Yeah, I wore the crap

639
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: out of those in the nineties. Remember when they got

640
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: so low that it was like dangerous though, like a

641
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: hip bun showed and then I don't wear a belt.

642
00:40:50,239 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: Maybe some pugs popping up, I said, she can't handle it. Oh,

643
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it. I messed her. Sorry, Carol, I'm watching

644
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: Tori have a hysterical fit. Oh wow, oh my god.

645
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: I needed a laugh today too. So we're here for you.

646
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just to hear with this crazy world

647
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: we're living in right now. Yeah, how you holding up?

648
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: I had a bad and I'm telling you the thing

649
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: that I tried to add a new email address mailbox

650
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: onto my phone and it's just like tears for the young.

651
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It'll just I'll come apart calls with

652
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: clients all day. Well pretty much. I've had I do

653
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 1: my yoga class twice a week on h and man,

654
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: that's been a lifesaver. I have a meditation group. They

655
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: she come, she um. She offers it every single morning.

656
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm usually there at least four times a week, three

657
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: to five times a week, usually about eight thirty in

658
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: the morning. We all do. She brings us into presence,

659
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: she reads a little something, We do a chant, do

660
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: a sit the thing that's really sick. Can we come?

661
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: Can we Oh? Yeah, we need to have a meditation.

662
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: Her name is Heather Ruce. Are you cee? And if

663
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: you google Heather Ruse, you'll go to her website and

664
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: you can click on the daily meditations and she she

665
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: does a great job. But it's really um. I got

666
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: all involved in deeper and re engage with spiritualities here

667
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: and that's it's been my life. But you know, I

668
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: also was writing this book. You wrote a book, was

669
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: just going to say talking about Actually it's starting in March.

670
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: We had heavy duty um editing, I mean a major rewrite,

671
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, completely restructured from March until I want to

672
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: say towards the end of the summer. So I mean

673
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: I I the fact that there was nothing to do

674
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: and nowhere to go was really kind of So you

675
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: finished the book, and when does it come out? Then February.

676
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: It's called When Your Child Has a Chronic Medical Illness,

677
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: A Guide for the Parenting Journey, and you can preorder

678
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: it on on Amazon. Everybody you can preorder it. And

679
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, so if you know anybody, he's got a

680
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: kid with a chronic medical illness. Um, it's something. It's

681
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: somewhere between fourteen and of kids have some kind of

682
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: chronical medical illness, some kind of chronic illness. UM. So

683
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: we're getting really I'm really pleased for getting great reviews

684
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: and great feedback. People are really saying this is going

685
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: to be helpful to a lot of people, help people

686
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: on that level. Yeah, we're excited. Rea didn't support you.

687
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: Of course, it's so nice hanging out with you. I

688
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, what you said is so true, Like

689
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: it makes me sad. We had this same conversation with Gabrielle,

690
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: Like we're super close with her now, but back then

691
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: it kind of didn't always work that way. And it's

692
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: just it makes me sad that we missed out on

693
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: like these amazing people pretending conversations. Yeah, we just didn't know.

694
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: I know. I feel that way about college. Do you remember, Carol,

695
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: all the little love triangles that happened on the side

696
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: off stage from the triangles? Yeah, do you remember any

697
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: of them? You know, I would go into the wardrobe

698
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: department and say, okay, tell me what's going on. I

699
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: had I had no idea what was going on, but

700
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: I really didn't see you guys. You know, we didn't

701
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: have scenes together until well, remember they sent me to

702
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: graduate school in counseling. That's what wait, what what did

703
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: you hear? The rumors were, Oh god, I don't even remember. Well,

704
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: I of course the big the big thing was the

705
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Jenny Shannon, Who's going to wear the red dress? That's

706
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: the one, the red dress. The red dress was that?

707
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: That was you? That was all you. It wasn't all me,

708
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't the red dress? You and me? Well? Yeah, well,

709
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: in the course, then they had you show up at

710
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: the prom in the same dress pitted yea, was that

711
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: happened first? Right? That happened first. That happened early in

712
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: the show, and they kind of created that they pitted

713
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: Kelly and Brenda against each other and made Kelly Steel

714
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: Brenda's boyfriend. And yeah, I mean I didn't have it.

715
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: They didn't have a chance in their friendship, right, but

716
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: they did. They seemed to overcome it, Kelly, Kelly and

717
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Brenda and remain friends for the whole show as far

718
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: as I remember, is that right? You're still friends? I do? Well,

719
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: did she come on you know when they not the

720
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: rebook but the one before. Um, yeah, I was on

721
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: it for a couple episodes and um, I persuaded her

722
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: to come on, And no, she was not on it

723
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: for a couple of episodes. I feel like it was

724
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: like three episodes. You were on probably twenty two episodes.

725
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: We have this argument someone you guys talking about the

726
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: nine two oh with like then got I am dbat

727
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: all the youngsters that show. I feel like I was

728
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: only there for three episodes or whatever. Um, but Shannon

729
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: did come in for an episode in my and then

730
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: you came in Missy for an episode maybe maybe twenty two.

731
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: I was on two episodes. I think Shannon was on

732
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: maybe two episodes, and you were on like twenty or

733
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes. That's not true. I always you were. Basically,

734
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: it was all about you all to come in and

735
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: joined the You would like the the guidance counselor, right.

736
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: I thought it would be fun if Cindy came in

737
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: to be under you as a new guidance counselor, having

738
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: gotten her you know, counseling degree and everything. I'm good.

739
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: I thought that would be an interesting sort of Well,

740
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: when when Jan and I produced and I know too

741
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: one O the musical. We'll make that up. It's coming

742
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: out soon. Well before you go, Carol, we are going

743
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: to have to wrap soon, unfortunately, but before you go,

744
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: we have to we play a fun little game on here,

745
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: and it's um kiss Mary kicked to the curb. God,

746
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: we don't use kill because kills just still so aggressive,

747
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: too harsh. Yeah, it's too aggressive. So you can pick

748
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: any of the boys from the cast. Kiss, We know

749
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: this one now? Yeah, I feel who would you marry

750
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: and who would you kick to the kick to the guys? Character? Character?

751
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: Or does it matter? I don't think she made me

752
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: play character? No, you made me? Would you make me

753
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: play real? We did characters? Okay, No, I don't remember.

754
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm lying. I think just go with your gut. What

755
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: about Jim? We should should we include him in the

756
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: list of boys? Jim just the boy? So we've got Brian, Luke, Jason, Iron,

757
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: I am Jason. So those four and you're gonna ignore

758
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: one already we had to do it, don't worry. Okay,

759
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: can you get to play? I'm sorry, I'm so slow.

760
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Kiss Mary and get rid of her. Which used to

761
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: be I believe a word starting with F was the kiss. Yeah,

762
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: well that's definitely no hesitation there. Uh Mary, Um Brian, Yeah,

763
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm marry Brian. And then um, I have I mean,

764
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: I have to ignore Jason. He played my son. It's

765
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: just too creepy. It gets weird. Perfect. She came to

766
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: the curve. Good job, Carol, Okay, we're all hunks. Was

767
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: so happy you came in and hung out for inviting

768
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: me come back and play with us. Yeah. Yeah, and

769
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: I sometimes get an arguments we're gonna need you, We're

770
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: gonna need our therapist stand by. I love that you

771
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: think you guys wrote it in the script that you

772
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: had decided to start seeing me. Well, you're you're the

773
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: best therapist in town. Why wouldn't we That's right, that's right,

774
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: and everybody go pick up her book or preorder Carol's

775
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: book and support her. That'd be nice. Yeah, thank you

776
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: all for having me. This is yeah. And you'll have

777
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: to tell us off the show what Luke whispered in

778
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: your ear because we know you remember. Yeah, I'll tell

779
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: you that off the show. Okay, fine, let's start a

780
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: group chat BI Carol, Bi, Carol to you so much

781
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: of love. I'm so glad our relationship has got to

782
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: the place where we can really enjoy each other. Me too,

783
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: us too. Bye bye. That was so funny. Guys, do

784
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: you feel like I feel like I just had a

785
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: therapy session? Kind of My heart is so full right now.

786
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: She's so like easy to talk to and just like chill,

787
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean that, like we missed ten years with a

788
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: great woman and we didn't even know. Like I don't

789
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: want to ever do that again. Like we judge people

790
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: because of their age, like, oh, she wasn't in our

791
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: team group, so like, yeah, but I learned just so

792
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: much as it didn't just not wired that way. You're

793
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: you can't see outside yourself and that's not that's not

794
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: a negative thing. Or we're talking badly about teas their

795
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: brains aren't developed in a way that they can appreciate

796
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: the landscape. M hmm, you're right. Well, you know who

797
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: else is in this episode is Lynda Thompson. She plays

798
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: Kelly's mom's best friends, the girl that's laying out at

799
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: the pool with her. Right. So, she was married to

800
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: Bruce Jenner. They had Brandon and Brodie Jenner, and then

801
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: she married David Foster. Oh, she was married to Bruce Jenner. Yes, yes,

802
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: formally yeah, okay, and like Brodie Jenner who was on

803
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: the Hills and stepbrothers the Kardashians, Like, okay, didn't she

804
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: date Elvis at one point? Because I remember something about

805
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: when we were filming the show and that we were

806
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: filming that scene when Brenda and Kelly walk up to

807
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: them at the pool. I remember the crew kind of

808
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: being like, she's that girls dated Elvis, and that was like,

809
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: oh my god, she dated el I mean, yeah, that's

810
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. That hands down Trump's the Kardashians. Sorry, that's

811
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by that. Yeah, dating Elvis is pretty cool. Yeah,

812
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: I know. Well, let's take a break and when we

813
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: come back, we need to talk about the fashion from

814
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: this episode, because now we touched on mom jeans a

815
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: little bit, and then Carol brought up like the fifties

816
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Um, but there was some fashion

817
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: from this episode Fashion Show. All right, let's talk about fashion.

818
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: It was the fashion show episode. So there was a

819
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: lot of like fancy, fancy fashion going on my cat walk,

820
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: well sophisticated. Yeah, you had you had the bikini that

821
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: was That was a bikini before my boop drop. And

822
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: Kelly didn't get to walk because her mom ruined everything.

823
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: I know, poor kill all dressed up and nowhere to go.

824
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: You're still wearing the dress at the end of the night.

825
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to take it off too much, too

826
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: much trauma. No. I thought that Carol looked so good

827
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: in that red dress. It just hit her like perfect,

828
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: such a beautiful woman, beautiful neckline on that dress with

829
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: all the beating in details. What did you guys see

830
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: the speaking of mom jeans, the jeans that Brenda was

831
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: wearing in the kitchen and then at school and then

832
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: the little bus hanging out the cut, there was like

833
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: a yeah right below the cheeks on the back of

834
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: her jeans. It was like written, pet I feel like

835
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: Shannon always wore her own jeans. Oh really, I think so? Yeah,

836
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: like that was her jam those sat She has great

837
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: style and at the time, I feel like she wore

838
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: a lot of her own stuff and definitely her own jeans.

839
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: How do we feel as mom's having your daughter walk

840
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: out of the house and those jeans. I would be like, no,

841
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: go put on some pants that actually cover your ass please.

842
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: She would say that, Oh my god. Sometimes I feel

843
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: awkward when I come over and I'm like, loa, you

844
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: look hot. I'm like, what am I doing? Like it's like,

845
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: but it's hard, like if it's not your own, yeah,

846
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: it's just you know, they're my friends kids, but I'm like,

847
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: they look great, but yeah, when it's your own, I'm like,

848
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: m no, yeah, it's really fun mom. But now I'm like,

849
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be super strict. No. Stella is

850
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: twelve and I tell her all the time, like you

851
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: can't wear that, and she shook. But her thing is

852
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: because now there's like TikTok and everything. So she's like,

853
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: here's girls my age, they're all wearing it. And I'm like, yeah,

854
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: what do you say? I know what you would say,

855
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: you say, they're they're not wearing it. But for me,

856
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, I wasn't able to express myself growing

857
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: up like a lot like it was very like my

858
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: mom had great style, but she bought my clothes and

859
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: not un till I was older was I able to

860
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: kind of say this is what I want to wear.

861
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: So I feel like I give a lot of free

862
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: range to my kids. They want to color their hair,

863
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: they want to dress a certain way. I do it.

864
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to say no. But I'm

865
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: old fashioned inside, so I'm like, it doesn't feel right.

866
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: You're too young. It's hard and I find myself sounding

867
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: like a mom. I was like, you have your whole

868
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: life to grow up and be an adult, like be

869
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: a kid now. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, we are

870
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: slowly becoming our parents. I think I know, man, And

871
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Yeah too. She chugs her wine.

872
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: Well did you guys, did anybody have a favorite line

873
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: in this episode? I did, um, and I was actually

874
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: one from Cindy Walsh. She said it's the law of

875
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: nature no girl can ever appreciate their own mother. That

876
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: really resonated with me, and I was just like, gosh,

877
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: it's like I remember growing up in in high school.

878
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: I think we're all embarrassed of our mom's at least

879
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: I was, and especially me because like my mom spoke

880
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Spanish all the time, and we grew up in this

881
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: white neighborhood and all I wanted to do was just

882
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: fit in. And I felt like I just didn't it in,

883
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: and uh, it just really resonated me. And I'm just like, man, like,

884
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm not ready for these teenage battles that I'm going

885
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: to have with my daughter one day, Like I just

886
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't want them. Do you remember your friends coming

887
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: over and always getting along with your mom? Yes, yes,

888
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: all my friends and my mom is the coolest. And

889
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I was like how and she Now I look back

890
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: and I love my mom so much, and that's you know,

891
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: you get it after you go to college and like

892
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: grow up, but when you're a teenager, they're the most

893
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: embarrassing thing on the planet to you. Yeah, And now

894
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: when teens come to my house, like my friends, my

895
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: kids friends, I there's so many emotions going on in

896
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: my head when they're like, Okay, I gotta be cool.

897
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: I gotta act like the kids want me to act.

898
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: But then I gotta say something that that guy might like,

899
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: and oh, then I start if I start relating to

900
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: the child, God forbid, we actually like relate and have

901
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: a conversation, and my kid is like in the corner, cringing,

902
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: probably saying, let's go hang out. It's so hard to

903
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: be a mom. But once again, you will always have

904
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: a leg up because you will be Kelly Taylor. But

905
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: through a lot you were. You were holed up in

906
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: a warehouse for ten years. As you put it, here's kid.

907
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: Other kids will always be like, wow, cool, mom, Kelly Taylor.

908
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: Both of you actually truly Yeah, that's crazy. How about you?

909
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: Any favorite lines? Um one and one one? The only

910
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: one I can think of right now is when Jackie

911
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: it's all coked out and she says, I I can't

912
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: be everything to everybody, and then Kelly says, when you're drinking, mom,

913
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: you're nothing to nobody. Powerful, really good. I'm gonna tear

914
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: up right now. So I feel. I felt, so I

915
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: felt all the feelings that Kelly was feeling and being

916
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: in her position, and and then I also felt the

917
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: other side, the part, the Jackie's part. Her life is

918
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: falling apart and she doesn't have anybody but Kelly and

919
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: you know she's doesn't. She needs help to kind of

920
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: get her life back on track. And I just felt

921
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: for both of them so much more in the night

922
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: realized I would like your room was iconic always. We

923
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: didn't see my room in this episode. Not in this episode,

924
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: we saw you the mom's room and that weird keyboard

925
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: and TV wester her nightstand. Security is that like it

926
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: felt like more e though, right house, that house, you

927
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: know what, you can still drive by that house. It's

928
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: long long avenue in studio, Yes, neighborhood is if you

929
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 1: drive up and looked on your right, you can see

930
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: the exterior of that house. And we shot the exter

931
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: of that house as Kelly's exter, and I think we

932
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: shot some of the interiors that like Jackie's room was

933
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: in that house, but the house was like seriously eighties

934
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: with the glass block and the round walls. Yeah, it's

935
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: still very cool. It was cool they were Jackie and

936
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: Kelly were like artsy, I guess, yeah, modern lady, very

937
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: less than zero. Yeah, that her room did have like

938
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: a control panel next to the bed like she was

939
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: driving his faceship. Yeah, like who's going to type on

940
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: the keyboard on the wall. But that was a real house,

941
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: that was a real situation in somebody's hut. Oh my gosh.

942
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: So that again was another person's house that you guys

943
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: would just come and rent out for the day and

944
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: then you do your scenes and you'd leaves. So fascinating me. Yeah,

945
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: people do that all the time. They rent out their

946
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: houses to film productions people all the time. But I

947
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: think it's like I never knew, like I guess people

948
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: do live there. I just thought it was like an

949
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: empty house. You paid a lot of money to do it,

950
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: so there's a huge incentive. But the bat downside, Yeah,

951
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: the downside is they trash your house, basically mess up

952
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: your walls, and you're you know, they don't they go

953
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: through your drawers. At least I did area. But you know,

954
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: when you're whenever you're shooting in someone's house, you're like

955
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: you have to pretend like the kitchen is your kitchen.

956
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: You gotta look around, you gotta see what's going on. Yeah,

957
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: I definitely do in the kitchen always, like the pantry,

958
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: always the friends not like in their underwear. Dord No,

959
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: that's like creepy. I was gonna talk to you after

960
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: the show about that. If that's true. No, my god,

961
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: so so uh. Carol's favorite episode is next week, right, Yes,

962
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: that's our that's the show every teen year. Itch, that's

963
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: everybody's homework. Can't wait. Let's watch it and we'll talk

964
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: more about Carol Potter's steamy performance. Yeah. I love it,

965
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: the one that she's that was her favorite with mom.

966
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: She's a saucy like you can tell like Carol's got

967
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: it going on. I want to go out for drinks

968
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, I like it. Well that's it, guys,

969
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks for hanging out with us, Happy New Year. Yeah,

970
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: keep up the great work. Is the first week of

971
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: January down, Let's keep going. Yeah, well, love you guys,

972
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: Love you to watch episode eight